Re: [MBZ] Washington state plans to ban most non-electric vehicles by 2030
That is how it is here. Used to be you paid excise tax which was based on some unknown book value. Even a $500 car will cost $160 to register it. Back when I was buying company cars a new vehicle that cost $15k would be about $600. Have heard people buying cars then can’t pay the $1200-1400 to register it. Forever you paid the excise tax but there was no sales tax. A few years ago they started also charging sales tax on top of the excise tax. It’s amazing you have to pay sales tax on a used item. Now let’s talk penalties. After 30 days it used to be .25 per day up to a cap of $100 for each of the excise tax and the tag. Now it’s $1 a day up to $100 cap on each so a possible $200 total. Since they sales tax went into effect there is also a $1 per day penalty on that as well with no cap. If it’s been years and you never registered it, you could be looking and many hundreds in penalties. Also, used to be when you sold a car, everything started over with new owner. If car was off the road for years, new owner transfers it and that’s that. Now, the new owner has to pay the penalty of the PO let the registration expire. Same $1 per day up to $100 deal. So might also have to pay another hundred for that barn find that has not been tagged in years. Several times it has been cheaper to go the Vermont route rather than paying all the fees here. Sent from my iPhone > On Mar 26, 2022, at 2:28 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes > wrote: > > Sounds like Indiana with their goofy excise tax on top of the registration > fee based on the selling price (MSRP) of the car until it’s 12 years old. I > never bought a new car when I lived there, partly because I couldn’t afford > one for most of the time, but even when I could I wasn’t about to pay their > stupid excise tax. > > I just looked and they’ve cut it back to 9 years now, but if you bought a new > car now and it cost $42k or more you’re paying over $500 in excise taxes. > This is all on top of a 7% sales tax when you purchase the vehicle. > > -D > > > >> On Mar 26, 2022, at 2:44 PM, mitch--- via Mercedes >> wrote: >> >> I remember when Michigan instituted a property tax on car registrations, not >> for the car's value but for its MSRP, beginning with model year 1983. >> >> OK, I'll just drive 1982 and older cars...but that only worked for so long, >> by 1990 I'd given up on it. My 1975 Civic was mostly inoperable, my 1976 >> Subaru and 1977 Saab were total rust buckets, and my 1980 Citation broke a >> shift fork inside the transmission and was too rusty to be worth fixing. >> >> Mitch. >> >> March 26, 2022, 2:58 PM UTC >> By Minyvonne Burke >> >> Washington state plans to ban most non-electric vehicles by 2030, according >> to a newly signed bill by Gov. Jay Inslee. >> >> The bill says that all vehicles of the model year 2030 or later that are >> sold, purchased, or registered in the state must be electric. >> >> "On or before December 31, 2023, the interagency electric vehicle >> coordinating council ... shall complete a scoping plan for achieving the >> 2030 target," it reads. >> >> The bill covers a lot of transportation issues in the state and is a part of >> a larger $16.9 billion transportation package called “Move Ahead >> Washington," which Inslee described as a way to create more efficient >> transportation options. >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Washington state plans to ban most non-electric vehicles by 2030
I guess uncle Kent will be out of business by then Sent from my iPhone > On Mar 26, 2022, at 1:47 PM, mitch--- via Mercedes > wrote: > > I remember when Michigan instituted a property tax on car registrations, not > for the car's value but for its MSRP, beginning with model year 1983. > > OK, I'll just drive 1982 and older cars...but that only worked for so long, > by 1990 I'd given up on it. My 1975 Civic was mostly inoperable, my 1976 > Subaru and 1977 Saab were total rust buckets, and my 1980 Citation broke a > shift fork inside the transmission and was too rusty to be worth fixing. > > Mitch. > > March 26, 2022, 2:58 PM UTC > By Minyvonne Burke > > Washington state plans to ban most non-electric vehicles by 2030, according > to a newly signed bill by Gov. Jay Inslee. > > The bill says that all vehicles of the model year 2030 or later that are > sold, purchased, or registered in the state must be electric. > > "On or before December 31, 2023, the interagency electric vehicle > coordinating council ... shall complete a scoping plan for achieving the 2030 > target," it reads. > > The bill covers a lot of transportation issues in the state and is a part of > a larger $16.9 billion transportation package called “Move Ahead Washington," > which Inslee described as a way to create more efficient transportation > options. > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Washington state plans to ban most non-electric vehicles by 2030
Despite their best intentions to save the planet, there is a harsh reality that has arisen which must be overcome due to a huge rise in the cost of raw materials to make electric car batteries [using current state of the art to make batteries]. A 472% increase in cost of lithium raw material to make EV car batteries in 12 months. That is the good news, the bad news is, even at inflated prices, there still is a world wide shortage of discovered source materials. Also, nickel, another required EV battery raw material, has had huge increases in raw material price. https://www.westernjournal.com/think-price-oil-bad-lithium-needed-make-electric-cars-472-since-last-march/ ? On Sat, Mar 26, 2022 at 12:37 PM dan penoff.com via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Despite the excise tax stuff I will say that in general, Indiana has the > lowest fees when it comes to titling and registering cars. When I titled > and registered the 2002 E320 4Matic up there it was barely $100. I was > stunned, as I hadn’t bothered to check on fees before I went. > > In FL you’re not getting out the door to title and register a car for > under $200. That doesn’t include the sales tax. And heaven forbid if it’s > an out of state car they’ll try and gouge you for a $225 “administrative > fee” for bringing in an out of state car. > > -D > > > On Mar 26, 2022, at 3:30 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > > This is part of why I buy old cars. Also why many people in Indiana > register their cars in other states if they have a relative's address they > can use. > > > > On Sat, Mar 26, 2022, at 2:27 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote: > >> Sounds like Indiana with their goofy excise tax on top of the > >> registration fee based on the selling price (MSRP) of the car until > >> it’s 12 years old. I never bought a new car when I lived there, partly > >> because I couldn’t afford one for most of the time, but even when I > >> could I wasn’t about to pay their stupid excise tax. > >> > >> I just looked and they’ve cut it back to 9 years now, but if you bought > >> a new car now and it cost $42k or more you’re paying over $500 in > >> excise taxes. This is all on top of a 7% sales tax when you purchase > >> the vehicle. > >> > >> -D > >> > >> > >> > >>> On Mar 26, 2022, at 2:44 PM, mitch--- via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > >>> > >>> I remember when Michigan instituted a property tax on car > registrations, not for the car's value but for its MSRP, beginning with > model year 1983. > >>> > >>> OK, I'll just drive 1982 and older cars...but that only worked for so > long, by 1990 I'd given up on it. My 1975 Civic was mostly inoperable, my > 1976 Subaru and 1977 Saab were total rust buckets, and my 1980 Citation > broke a shift fork inside the transmission and was too rusty to be worth > fixing. > >>> > >>> Mitch. > >>> > >>> March 26, 2022, 2:58 PM UTC > >>> By Minyvonne Burke > >>> > >>> Washington state plans to ban most non-electric vehicles by 2030, > according to a newly signed bill by Gov. Jay Inslee. > >>> > >>> The bill says that all vehicles of the model year 2030 or later that > are sold, purchased, or registered in the state must be electric. > >>> > >>> "On or before December 31, 2023, the interagency electric vehicle > coordinating council ... shall complete a scoping plan for achieving the > 2030 target," it reads. > >>> > >>> The bill covers a lot of transportation issues in the state and is a > part of a larger $16.9 billion transportation package called “Move Ahead > Washington," which Inslee described as a way to create more efficient > transportation options. > >>> > >>> ___ > >>> http://www.okiebenz.com > >>> > >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > >>> > >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > >>> > >> > >> ___ > >> http://www.okiebenz.com > >> > >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > >> > >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Washington state plans to ban most non-electric vehicles by 2030
When I lived in Illinois, registration was a flat fee, something like $35. Ridiculously cheap. That may have changed since I moved away, over 20 years ago now. On Sat, Mar 26, 2022, at 2:37 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote: > Despite the excise tax stuff I will say that in general, Indiana has > the lowest fees when it comes to titling and registering cars. When I > titled and registered the 2002 E320 4Matic up there it was barely $100. > I was stunned, as I hadn’t bothered to check on fees before I went. > > In FL you’re not getting out the door to title and register a car for > under $200. That doesn’t include the sales tax. And heaven forbid if > it’s an out of state car they’ll try and gouge you for a $225 > “administrative fee” for bringing in an out of state car. > > -D > >> On Mar 26, 2022, at 3:30 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes >> wrote: >> >> This is part of why I buy old cars. Also why many people in Indiana register >> their cars in other states if they have a relative's address they can use. >> >> On Sat, Mar 26, 2022, at 2:27 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote: >>> Sounds like Indiana with their goofy excise tax on top of the >>> registration fee based on the selling price (MSRP) of the car until >>> it’s 12 years old. I never bought a new car when I lived there, partly >>> because I couldn’t afford one for most of the time, but even when I >>> could I wasn’t about to pay their stupid excise tax. >>> >>> I just looked and they’ve cut it back to 9 years now, but if you bought >>> a new car now and it cost $42k or more you’re paying over $500 in >>> excise taxes. This is all on top of a 7% sales tax when you purchase >>> the vehicle. >>> >>> -D >>> >>> >>> On Mar 26, 2022, at 2:44 PM, mitch--- via Mercedes wrote: I remember when Michigan instituted a property tax on car registrations, not for the car's value but for its MSRP, beginning with model year 1983. OK, I'll just drive 1982 and older cars...but that only worked for so long, by 1990 I'd given up on it. My 1975 Civic was mostly inoperable, my 1976 Subaru and 1977 Saab were total rust buckets, and my 1980 Citation broke a shift fork inside the transmission and was too rusty to be worth fixing. Mitch. March 26, 2022, 2:58 PM UTC By Minyvonne Burke Washington state plans to ban most non-electric vehicles by 2030, according to a newly signed bill by Gov. Jay Inslee. The bill says that all vehicles of the model year 2030 or later that are sold, purchased, or registered in the state must be electric. "On or before December 31, 2023, the interagency electric vehicle coordinating council ... shall complete a scoping plan for achieving the 2030 target," it reads. The bill covers a lot of transportation issues in the state and is a part of a larger $16.9 billion transportation package called “Move Ahead Washington," which Inslee described as a way to create more efficient transportation options. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>> >>> ___ >>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>> >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>> >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Washington state plans to ban most non-electric vehicles by 2030
Despite the excise tax stuff I will say that in general, Indiana has the lowest fees when it comes to titling and registering cars. When I titled and registered the 2002 E320 4Matic up there it was barely $100. I was stunned, as I hadn’t bothered to check on fees before I went. In FL you’re not getting out the door to title and register a car for under $200. That doesn’t include the sales tax. And heaven forbid if it’s an out of state car they’ll try and gouge you for a $225 “administrative fee” for bringing in an out of state car. -D > On Mar 26, 2022, at 3:30 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes > wrote: > > This is part of why I buy old cars. Also why many people in Indiana register > their cars in other states if they have a relative's address they can use. > > On Sat, Mar 26, 2022, at 2:27 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote: >> Sounds like Indiana with their goofy excise tax on top of the >> registration fee based on the selling price (MSRP) of the car until >> it’s 12 years old. I never bought a new car when I lived there, partly >> because I couldn’t afford one for most of the time, but even when I >> could I wasn’t about to pay their stupid excise tax. >> >> I just looked and they’ve cut it back to 9 years now, but if you bought >> a new car now and it cost $42k or more you’re paying over $500 in >> excise taxes. This is all on top of a 7% sales tax when you purchase >> the vehicle. >> >> -D >> >> >> >>> On Mar 26, 2022, at 2:44 PM, mitch--- via Mercedes >>> wrote: >>> >>> I remember when Michigan instituted a property tax on car registrations, >>> not for the car's value but for its MSRP, beginning with model year 1983. >>> >>> OK, I'll just drive 1982 and older cars...but that only worked for so long, >>> by 1990 I'd given up on it. My 1975 Civic was mostly inoperable, my 1976 >>> Subaru and 1977 Saab were total rust buckets, and my 1980 Citation broke a >>> shift fork inside the transmission and was too rusty to be worth fixing. >>> >>> Mitch. >>> >>> March 26, 2022, 2:58 PM UTC >>> By Minyvonne Burke >>> >>> Washington state plans to ban most non-electric vehicles by 2030, according >>> to a newly signed bill by Gov. Jay Inslee. >>> >>> The bill says that all vehicles of the model year 2030 or later that are >>> sold, purchased, or registered in the state must be electric. >>> >>> "On or before December 31, 2023, the interagency electric vehicle >>> coordinating council ... shall complete a scoping plan for achieving the >>> 2030 target," it reads. >>> >>> The bill covers a lot of transportation issues in the state and is a part >>> of a larger $16.9 billion transportation package called “Move Ahead >>> Washington," which Inslee described as a way to create more efficient >>> transportation options. >>> >>> ___ >>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>> >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>> >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>> >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Washington state plans to ban most non-electric vehicles by 2030
This is part of why I buy old cars. Also why many people in Indiana register their cars in other states if they have a relative's address they can use. On Sat, Mar 26, 2022, at 2:27 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote: > Sounds like Indiana with their goofy excise tax on top of the > registration fee based on the selling price (MSRP) of the car until > it’s 12 years old. I never bought a new car when I lived there, partly > because I couldn’t afford one for most of the time, but even when I > could I wasn’t about to pay their stupid excise tax. > > I just looked and they’ve cut it back to 9 years now, but if you bought > a new car now and it cost $42k or more you’re paying over $500 in > excise taxes. This is all on top of a 7% sales tax when you purchase > the vehicle. > > -D > > > >> On Mar 26, 2022, at 2:44 PM, mitch--- via Mercedes >> wrote: >> >> I remember when Michigan instituted a property tax on car registrations, not >> for the car's value but for its MSRP, beginning with model year 1983. >> >> OK, I'll just drive 1982 and older cars...but that only worked for so long, >> by 1990 I'd given up on it. My 1975 Civic was mostly inoperable, my 1976 >> Subaru and 1977 Saab were total rust buckets, and my 1980 Citation broke a >> shift fork inside the transmission and was too rusty to be worth fixing. >> >> Mitch. >> >> March 26, 2022, 2:58 PM UTC >> By Minyvonne Burke >> >> Washington state plans to ban most non-electric vehicles by 2030, according >> to a newly signed bill by Gov. Jay Inslee. >> >> The bill says that all vehicles of the model year 2030 or later that are >> sold, purchased, or registered in the state must be electric. >> >> "On or before December 31, 2023, the interagency electric vehicle >> coordinating council ... shall complete a scoping plan for achieving the >> 2030 target," it reads. >> >> The bill covers a lot of transportation issues in the state and is a part of >> a larger $16.9 billion transportation package called “Move Ahead >> Washington," which Inslee described as a way to create more efficient >> transportation options. >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Washington state plans to ban most non-electric vehicles by 2030
Sounds like Indiana with their goofy excise tax on top of the registration fee based on the selling price (MSRP) of the car until it’s 12 years old. I never bought a new car when I lived there, partly because I couldn’t afford one for most of the time, but even when I could I wasn’t about to pay their stupid excise tax. I just looked and they’ve cut it back to 9 years now, but if you bought a new car now and it cost $42k or more you’re paying over $500 in excise taxes. This is all on top of a 7% sales tax when you purchase the vehicle. -D > On Mar 26, 2022, at 2:44 PM, mitch--- via Mercedes > wrote: > > I remember when Michigan instituted a property tax on car registrations, not > for the car's value but for its MSRP, beginning with model year 1983. > > OK, I'll just drive 1982 and older cars...but that only worked for so long, > by 1990 I'd given up on it. My 1975 Civic was mostly inoperable, my 1976 > Subaru and 1977 Saab were total rust buckets, and my 1980 Citation broke a > shift fork inside the transmission and was too rusty to be worth fixing. > > Mitch. > > March 26, 2022, 2:58 PM UTC > By Minyvonne Burke > > Washington state plans to ban most non-electric vehicles by 2030, according > to a newly signed bill by Gov. Jay Inslee. > > The bill says that all vehicles of the model year 2030 or later that are > sold, purchased, or registered in the state must be electric. > > "On or before December 31, 2023, the interagency electric vehicle > coordinating council ... shall complete a scoping plan for achieving the 2030 > target," it reads. > > The bill covers a lot of transportation issues in the state and is a part of > a larger $16.9 billion transportation package called “Move Ahead Washington," > which Inslee described as a way to create more efficient transportation > options. > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Washington state plans to ban most non-electric vehicles by 2030
I remember when Michigan instituted a property tax on car registrations, not for the car's value but for its MSRP, beginning with model year 1983. OK, I'll just drive 1982 and older cars...but that only worked for so long, by 1990 I'd given up on it. My 1975 Civic was mostly inoperable, my 1976 Subaru and 1977 Saab were total rust buckets, and my 1980 Citation broke a shift fork inside the transmission and was too rusty to be worth fixing. Mitch. March 26, 2022, 2:58 PM UTC By Minyvonne Burke Washington state plans to ban most non-electric vehicles by 2030, according to a newly signed bill by Gov. Jay Inslee. The bill says that all vehicles of the model year 2030 or later that are sold, purchased, or registered in the state must be electric. "On or before December 31, 2023, the interagency electric vehicle coordinating council ... shall complete a scoping plan for achieving the 2030 target," it reads. The bill covers a lot of transportation issues in the state and is a part of a larger $16.9 billion transportation package called “Move Ahead Washington," which Inslee described as a way to create more efficient transportation options. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Washington State (was: rear exhaust hanger question)
So is Warshington; we just kvetch a lot about noobs, that's all. On 1/4/07, Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I never said anybody wasn't welcome, Maine is a very welcoming state. Casey Olympia, WA Biodiesel: I drive in a persistent vegetative state '87 300TD intercooler/propane #22 0-60mph 7.3sec (220k) '84 300D (218k) Gashuffer: '89 Vanagon Wolfsburg Edition (187K) http://users.zhonka.net/zeitgeist/Misc/IMG_0171.JPG
Re: [MBZ] Washington State (was: rear exhaust hanger question)
We've had an especially wet wet wet Autumn and Winter, so far...oh ya, and really really high winds, too. You know, the kind that knock yer power out for 7 days. On 1/4/07, Zoltan Finks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On a different Washington note: How about the weather - the news is now officially blaming El Nino and, more interestingly, global warming for the wierd weather across the country. We are enjoying a downright balmy winter so far here in MN. And WA is getting a ton of rainstorms apparently. Casey Olympia, WA Biodiesel: I drive in a persistent vegetative state '87 300TD intercooler/propane #22 0-60mph 7.3sec (220k) '84 300D (218k) Gashuffer: '89 Vanagon Wolfsburg Edition (187K) http://users.zhonka.net/zeitgeist/Misc/IMG_0171.JPG
Re: [MBZ] Washington State
Da G'mnt shouldn't be in the marriage bidness to begin with. They should just enforce contractual agreements between consenting parties, and leave the vexing morality plays to those WGAS about such silliness. I had an entirely secular state-sanctioned contract signing ceremony, officiated by a district judge, taking place in within the state capitol dome, of all places. Why should that be denied to any two consenting adults? On 1/4/07, Zoltan Finks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm not hating on homosexuals. Life is teaching me that I can't do that. But denying them access to the institution of marriage is no more discrimation than my being denied access to the million mile club, or the lady's tennis club. I just don't have the specific qualifications. Let's maybe form something like a nation-wide civil union with full marriage benefits? Casey Olympia, WA Biodiesel: I drive in a persistent vegetative state '87 300TD intercooler/propane #22 0-60mph 7.3sec (220k) '84 300D (218k) Gashuffer: '89 Vanagon Wolfsburg Edition (187K) http://users.zhonka.net/zeitgeist/Misc/IMG_0171.JPG
Re: [MBZ] Washington State
RENT? Try to buy some place to live for under a quarter million. Broom closet condos are going for better than $240k On Jan 4, 2007, at 11:30 AM, David Brodbeck wrote: Zeitgeist wrote: Dude, I've met folks just like that. I'm just the messenger. This state is plum full of kooks. I think people just got kind of tired, during the 90s, of Californians moving into the area, driving rent up to extraordinary levels, and then whining about the rain. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz
Re: [MBZ] Washington State
There are far more queens here than there are colored folk. Used to be called the Queen City. The less fay were able to compromise with the Judy Garland loving cross dressers and called it the Emerald City. Changed the county name to support a black man recently. On Jan 4, 2007, at 11:33 AM, David Brodbeck wrote: Zoltan Finks wrote: I'm a vegetarian environmentalist who is against gay marriage and handouts for illegals (for example). Homosexuals seem to be one of the few minorities it's still okay to discriminate against. I've always found it striking that the arguments against gay marriage are mostly the same ones that were used against interracial marriage, back when that was illegal. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz
Re: [MBZ] Washington State (was: rear exhaust hanger question)
If you like adjusting valves, buy a 300CD. It's MUCH more fun to drive than the SD. Specially when you have an SDL or '87 TD around... see my signature line for refrences :) On Thu, 04 Jan 2007 17:01:34 -0600, kevin kraly [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I believe if I hit the powerball and had to live somewhere I would, after i bought a new ACC servo, buy a house in Maine. And drive the old '77 300D? Cool! If I was in such a situation, I would consider moving up to a 1986-7 300SDL or a W124 300TD wagon. Hheck, with that kind of jackpot, I could afford to buy them all along with a nice property with plenty of garages to house them all! Of course, the old '83 300SD would stay too since it would still be fun to adjust valves once in a while. Kevin in Hillsboro, OR 1983 300SD 265K miles, Ursula -- Luther KB5QHUAlma, Ark '87 300SDL (270,491 mi) head case? '83 300SD (241 kmi) '82 300CD (162 kmi) '82 300D (74 kmi) needs MAJOR engine work '85 300D (280,176) parts car
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Oh heck, just let the faeries get wed and go through all the legal hassle hetero folks deal with. Get divorced once and you will not be so willing to mess around with that institution again. Might as well bar stupid people from breeding while we are at it. At least the gay folk will not be popping out babies left and right. They get to fly to china to purchase bundles of joy. On Jan 4, 2007, at 12:01 PM, Zoltan Finks wrote: I'm not hating on homosexuals. Life is teaching me that I can't do that. But denying them access to the institution of marriage is no more discrimation than my being denied access to the million mile club, or the lady's tennis club. I just don't have the specific qualifications. Let's maybe form something like a nation-wide civil union with full marriage benefits? Brian On 1/4/07, Bob Rentfro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: David made the observation: Homosexuals seem to be one of the few minorities it's still okay to discriminate against. I've always found it striking that the arguments against gay marriage are mostly the same ones that were used against interracial marriage, back when that was illegal. Amen. Bob R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz
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Redghost wrote: RENT? Try to buy some place to live for under a quarter million. Broom closet condos are going for better than $240k I guess I'll stay in Michigan. I'm fixin' to offer 25k on a 2.8 acre hillside, with frontage on two paved roads, about 300 yards from a freeway exit. Figure it'll cost me another 70k or so (and 1000-1500 hours) to put a 2200 sq ft house 3 car garage on it. Mitch.
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We might just wash away if it continues. Saturated soil will result in lost tree cover and with the steep slopes, the whole mess will slide into Puget Sound or one of the many wetlands. Going to begin my ark in a week. Figure there is enough free wood to be had on CL to make it meet the cubit requirements in the good book. On Jan 4, 2007, at 2:21 PM, Zoltan Finks wrote: On a different Washington note: How about the weather - the news is now officially blaming El Nino and, more interestingly, global warming for the wierd weather across the country. We are enjoying a downright balmy winter so far here in MN. And WA is getting a ton of rainstorms apparently. Brian On 1/4/07, Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I never said anybody wasn't welcome, Maine is a very welcoming state. -Curt Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2007 09:21:40 -0800 From: Zeitgeist [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Washington State (was: rear exhaust hanger question) To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed I like that Maine humor. It's the only other state I could imagine living for an extended period. Obviously, that wouldn't make me a native, nor even welcome. I constantly give my wife grief because she was born in Virginia, yet claims to be a WA native. She moved out to Seattle at age three months. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz
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I pick up some doors from a poor fellow who got power back X-mas eve. Two weeks no power, and now he is trying to replace his roof, but the neighborhood nazis came after him. He was afraid I was another inspector come to shut him down for doing the job himself without approval from the association. Warshington is Big on process, but heaven forbid you get anything done On Jan 4, 2007, at 6:47 PM, Zeitgeist wrote: We've had an especially wet wet wet Autumn and Winter, so far...oh ya, and really really high winds, too. You know, the kind that knock yer power out for 7 days. On 1/4/07, Zoltan Finks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On a different Washington note: How about the weather - the news is now officially blaming El Nino and, more interestingly, global warming for the wierd weather across the country. We are enjoying a downright balmy winter so far here in MN. And WA is getting a ton of rainstorms apparently. Casey -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz
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For $25k you can find some land on the escarpments of low lying mountains on the dry side of the state. Around 22k sqft with no utilities for miles On Jan 4, 2007, at 7:43 PM, Mitch Haley wrote: Redghost wrote: RENT? Try to buy some place to live for under a quarter million. Broom closet condos are going for better than $240k I guess I'll stay in Michigan. I'm fixin' to offer 25k on a 2.8 acre hillside, with frontage on two paved roads, about 300 yards from a freeway exit. Figure it'll cost me another 70k or so (and 1000-1500 hours) to put a 2200 sq ft house 3 car garage on it. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz
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On Thu, 04 Jan 2007 22:43:00 -0500 Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm fixin' to offer 25k on a 2.8 acre hillside, with frontage on two paved roads, about 300 yards from a freeway exit. Guess you don't mind freeway noise ... Craig
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Craig McCluskey wrote: Guess you don't mind freeway noise ... 2 lanes each way, WIDE median full of pine trees absorbs some of the sound. It's not that bad really. My boss lives on the next exit three miles away, he might be 50-100 yards closer to I-69, I can't hear the fwy at all in his house with the windows closed. My 190Dt is even closer to I-69, sitting in a field, I rarely notice the road noise when I'm messing with the car. Maybe I'm losing my hearing. 35 years ago I lived 3/4 mile away from US 27, and I could hear the trucks clearly. The train track one mile from where I live now does bother me sometimes, I can hear it as I type now, and the windows are indeed closed. Mitch. Mitch.
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Or even 3 or 4 for that matter! --R Zeitgeist wrote: Why should that be denied to any two consenting adults?
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neighborhood nazis came after him. He was afraid I was another inspector come to shut him down for doing the job himself without approval from the association. No way will I ever live anywhere with those wretched covenants. They're even putting them on rural acreage! Our neighbors, on 10 acres, have one. For $25k you can find some land on the escarpments of low lying mountains on the dry side of the state. Around 22k sqft with no utilities for miles The dry side (where I live) is the bulk of the state. You've just got to get further away from Seattle than Cle Elum! It gets a whole lot cheaper away from anything interesting. Of course, there's a reason. The greater Seattle area has gotten stupid pricing. Say what, 10-15 years ago? 'Round the time of that big California earthquake. For some reason, housing prices in Spokane also shot up at that time. Kick an anthill sometime and see what you get. -- Jim
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For $25k you can find some land on the escarpments of low lying mountains on the dry side of the state. Around 22k sqft with no utilities for miles Did you see a while back when someone was auctioning off an old Titan missile silo near Moses Lake? Had power on site and everything. All I could think of was that it would make a great undergroundlair for an aspiring Bond-style supervillain.
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Love it! Original with you? May I use it? Brian Jim wrote: Kick an anthill sometime and see what you get.
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Kick an anthill sometime and see what you get. Love it! Original with you? May I use it? I have no idea. But don't let that stop you! -- Jim
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Did you see a while back when someone was auctioning off an old Titan missile silo near Moses Lake? Had power on site and everything. All I could think of was that it would make a great underground lair for an aspiring Bond-style supervillain. I've heard of those being turned into offsite archive storage facilities. Great advertising: Proof against even a nuclear strike! Might be fun to live in. Honey, it's such a beautiful day why don't we open the sunroof? -- Jim
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My wife and I just spend $180k on a 900sqft ranch on 1/4 acre which was a BARGAIN in north central MA. We looked at a $100k house just to see what it'd buy, ~1000sqft house on ~1200sqft lot across the street from a pallet factory that works 24x7 blam blam blam SAW!!! blam blam blam The place was so filthy that my wife wouldn't even go in, I went in but wouldn't touch anything... You couldn't even tear it down and start over, the lot was worthless. Looked at a $120k house that didn't have interior access to the basement. They'd converted the attic into a room that was too short for me to stand up in... That one at least had potential. I figured if the housing market wasn't crappy you could put $60k into it and have a $200k house. My wife couldn't see it. -Curt Date: Thu, 04 Jan 2007 22:43:00 -0500 From: Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Washington State To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Redghost wrote: RENT? Try to buy some place to live for under a quarter million. Broom closet condos are going for better than $240k I guess I'll stay in Michigan. I'm fixin' to offer 25k on a 2.8 acre hillside, with frontage on two paved roads, about 300 yards from a freeway exit. Figure it'll cost me another 70k or so (and 1000-1500 hours) to put a 2200 sq ft house 3 car garage on it. Mitch. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fri Jan 05 16:15:19 2007 Received: from sccrmhc11.comcast.net ([63.240.77.81]) by server8.arterytc8.net with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1H2riw-0001KL-O8 for mercedes@okiebenz.com; Fri, 05 Jan 2007 16:15:19 + Received: from aceraspire (c-68-57-181-125.hsd1.va.comcast.net[68.57.181.125]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc11) with SMTP id 2007010516120001100ppnhqe; Fri, 5 Jan 2007 16:12:02 + Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: LarryT [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com References: [EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2007 11:11:56 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3028 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Subject: [MBZ] Removing Corroded Bleed Valves X-BeenThere: mercedes@okiebenz.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9.cp1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com List-Id: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes_okiebenz.com.okiebenz.com List-Unsubscribe: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: /pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com List-Post: mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Jan 2007 16:15:19 - Howdy! The bleed valves on the rear calipers of my 91 300D 2.5T are corroded so badly they will not unscrew. Attempts to grab them with a vise-grips or similar results in the bleeders starting to collapse as they are turned. I haven't had any luck with easy-outs - last time I tried one it broke off inside the bleeder! No fun there! So, what works? What doesn't? Thx - Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs Porsche Road Test http://members.rennlist.com/roadtest/
Re: [MBZ] Washington State (was: rear exhaust hanger question)
Puget Sound passive aggressive. We are very nice to your face, but plot your downfall during free moments. East of the mountains is small town suspicious of the weirdos who flock there for the sun. On Jan 3, 2007, at 10:36 AM, Zoltan Finks wrote: Man, the general concensus seems to be that the Pac. NW consists of a majority of wierdos. Growing up in AZ, there was a joke that California was the land of the fruits and nuts. Maybe all the Californians moved north and all the Mexicans have moved to their north as well. And this notion of organized resistance and protests, etc. to people moving in and californicating Washinton - wow. I bet the majority of these protesters would consider the same type of protesting against foreign immigration to be one of the cardinal sins. Whatever, it won't be the first time I've felt the you ain't from around here syndrome (having moved from Tucson to a relatively small town in Minnesota - with a bald head at the time). Actually, when we were checking out our probable new town Bainbridge Island, we were very surprised that we didn't run into any of the sort of resistance I'm hearing of. People seemed pretty genuine and welcoming even when they heard we're moving there. Maybe they've got their own version of Minnesota Nice (which, we've found, is skin-deep - be nice face to face, and thus gather a bunch of information to be used in gossip sessons later). Brian Alex wrote: And if Washington isn't weird enough for you, come on down to Oregon. We have a much worse economy, but we make up for it: marijuana and machine guns are both legal here. ;) Alex Chamberlain '87 300D Turbo '92 Isuzu Trooper ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz
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No overt attacks on your person. More insidious jedi mind tricks to undermine your values and convert you to the pink side. Soon you will be marching to provide support for the child with two mommies and finding work for chicanos and their extended families. On Jan 3, 2007, at 11:30 AM, Zoltan Finks wrote: That's what people do in Yuma: gas up and pass through. And, again with the threats against my person. I suppose this nebuous we plans to attack my wife and family too. We'll have to steer clear of any restaurants with an older, bumper sticker-bearing Mercedes parked around back. Brian On 1/3/07, Zeitgeist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I had a friendly gent down in Yuma AZ gently suggest that my friend and I keep on-a-movin, when we were passing through town. Apparently a couple of WA longhairs in a VW bus ain't too welcome down in those parts. Trust me, until you learn the secret handshake, we'll find uniquely devious and covert ways in which to undermine your health and well-being. Remember to slap the I 3 Bill bumper sticker on, just for Clay. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz
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Now take a fellow with that New England family history and move him to the PNW. Unless you can trace your family to a First Nations clan, you are a newbie. Unless you were Hudson's Bay or on Capt. Vancouver's ship in the old Pacific Northwet. On Jan 3, 2007, at 11:37 AM, Werner Fehlauer wrote: The folks in the Pacific Northwest are like any others - treat them like you want to be treated, and you'll get along just fine. Living in NE Tacoma for 3 years, we found the locals all to be as nice or better than we've seen anywhere in the USA - and we all laughed at the tongue-in-cheek comments about immigrants from other states. There was always the unwritten law though that insisted that it rains all the time in Seattle, to discourage too much of an inclination to attract newcomers. In actuality, New York City gets more rainfall every year, although over less days (average). What people don't realize is that Washington has not only high desert that requires irrigation to produce crops, but also has desert and rain forest conditions on the Olympic peninsula. The neat part is that most years, there are flowers and green grass, and little snow to bother with for any long periods. Now if you want a bit of snobbery (flame suit on), take a good look at the old New England states, where if you didn't get your feet wet while climbing off the Mayflower, you are just a newbie. Werner - Original Message - From: Zoltan Finks [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, January 03, 2007 1:36 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Washington State (was: rear exhaust hanger question) Man, the general concensus seems to be that the Pac. NW consists of a majority of wierdos. Growing up in AZ, there was a joke that California was the land of the fruits and nuts. Maybe all the Californians moved north and all the Mexicans have moved to their north as well. And this notion of organized resistance and protests, etc. to people moving in and californicating Washinton - wow. I bet the majority of these protesters would consider the same type of protesting against foreign immigration to be one of the cardinal sins. Whatever, it won't be the first time I've felt the you ain't from around here syndrome (having moved from Tucson to a relatively small town in Minnesota - with a bald head at the time). Actually, when we were checking out our probable new town Bainbridge Island, we were very surprised that we didn't run into any of the sort of resistance I'm hearing of. People seemed pretty genuine and welcoming even when they heard we're moving there. Maybe they've got their own version of Minnesota Nice (which, we've found, is skin-deep - be nice face to face, and thus gather a bunch of information to be used in gossip sessons later). Brian ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz
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Brian, that was me being covert and devious. Casey is as wholesome as driven snow and welcomes all liberal minded people so that the soviet socialist state of washington can one day rise up to overthrow the chains of the capitalist devils on the Atlantic coast. On Jan 3, 2007, at 1:12 PM, Zoltan Finks wrote: Dude, I'm just not used to people saying things they do not mean. Kindly reserve your name-calling for whatever other lists you belong to. If I'm paranoid, it's not your place to say it. All I did was ask you to explain your bizarre, threatening posts to me, and clearly you take such a request as a challenge to do more of what you do. Can't seem to break character. Brian Zeitgiest, you wrote: we'll find uniquely devious and covert ways in which to undermine your health and well-being On 1/3/07, Zeitgeist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dude, you're paranoid. My job is done. On 1/3/07, Zoltan Finks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That's what people do in Yuma: gas up and pass through. And, again with the threats against my person. I suppose this nebuous we plans to attack my wife and family too. We'll have to steer clear of any restaurants with an older, bumper sticker-bearing Mercedes parked around back. Casey Olympia, WA Biodiesel: I drive in a persistent vegetative state '87 300TD intercooler/propane #22 0-60mph 7.3sec (220k) '84 300D (218k) Gashuffer: '89 Vanagon Wolfsburg Edition (187K) http://users.zhonka.net/zeitgeist/Misc/IMG_0171.JPG ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz
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Ya, what Clay said. I'm sending him two loaves of G'mnt cheese, right now. On 1/3/07, Redghost [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Brian, that was me being covert and devious. Casey is as wholesome as driven snow and welcomes all liberal minded people so that the soviet socialist state of washington can one day rise up to overthrow the chains of the capitalist devils on the Atlantic coast. Casey Olympia, WA Biodiesel: I drive in a persistent vegetative state '87 300TD intercooler/propane #22 0-60mph 7.3sec (220k) '84 300D (218k) Gashuffer: '89 Vanagon Wolfsburg Edition (187K) http://users.zhonka.net/zeitgeist/Misc/IMG_0171.JPG
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They are newbies... A man and his wife moved into our little town in Maine, they had kids and after 20 years started to proclaim themselves natives. The man got taken aside and told that while he was a welcome, valued member of the community he was NOT a native. He exclaimed that his children whom had lived there their whole lives must certainly be natives. The real native replied If your cat had kittens in the oven you wouldn't call them biscuits. Eventually after 40 years in town the man died, on his tombstone they put He was almost one of us. Maine humor, nothing like it. thankfully. -Curt Date: Wed, 03 Jan 2007 14:37:05 -0500 From: Werner Fehlauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Washington State (was: rear exhaust hanger question) To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=original The folks in the Pacific Northwest are like any others - treat them like you want to be treated, and you'll get along just fine. Living in NE Tacoma for 3 years, we found the locals all to be as nice or better than we've seen anywhere in the USA - and we all laughed at the tongue-in-cheek comments about immigrants from other states. There was always the unwritten law though that insisted that it rains all the time in Seattle, to discourage too much of an inclination to attract newcomers. In actuality, New York City gets more rainfall every year, although over less days (average). What people don't realize is that Washington has not only high desert that requires irrigation to produce crops, but also has desert and rain forest conditions on the Olympic peninsula. The neat part is that most years, there are flowers and green grass, and little snow to bother with for any long periods. Now if you want a bit of snobbery (flame suit on), take a good look at the old New England states, where if you didn't get your feet wet while climbing off the Mayflower, you are just a newbie. Werner __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thu Jan 04 17:23:11 2007 Received: from an-out-0708.google.com ([209.85.132.241]) by server8.arterytc8.net with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1H2WJ4-0006kd-TZ for mercedes@okiebenz.com; Thu, 04 Jan 2007 17:23:11 + Received: by an-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id b6so1899729ana for mercedes@okiebenz.com; Thu, 04 Jan 2007 09:20:02 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.78.133.10 with SMTP id g10mr2649115hud.1167931201934; Thu, 04 Jan 2007 09:20:01 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.78.178.3 with HTTP; Thu, 4 Jan 2007 09:20:01 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2007 12:20:01 -0500 From: andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] MIME-Version: 1.0 References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9.cp1 Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - lost baggage fiasco X-BeenThere: mercedes@okiebenz.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9.cp1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com List-Id: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes_okiebenz.com.okiebenz.com List-Unsubscribe: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: /pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com List-Post: mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 04 Jan 2007 17:23:12 - Also, if your luggage is likely to be delivered after 11 pm, be sure to tell them explicitly to TELEPHONE or RING THE DOORBELL rather than leaving the pieces outside. The only reason to leave them on a side porch is if you are not at home at the time, and you live in a safe neighborhood. On 1/4/07, BillR [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A Veterinarian friend who did international sales for Eli Lilly got so fed up with baggage problems that after a few months he did all his travel with only a briefcase. It ahs been awhile, but IIRC he would go for almost a week that way. Every night he washed out clothes and hung them to dry. Worked for him; I'm just glad they put wheels on suitcases. BillR Jacksonville FL -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Rich Thomas Sent: Wednesday, January 03, 2007 11:52 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - lost baggage fiasco Moral of the experience: carry less impedimenta on your trips. I have a friend who
Re: [MBZ] Washington State (was: rear exhaust hanger question)
I like that Maine humor. It's the only other state I could imagine living for an extended period. Obviously, that wouldn't make me a native, nor even welcome. I constantly give my wife grief because she was born in Virginia, yet claims to be a WA native. She moved out to Seattle at age three months. On 1/4/07, Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A man and his wife moved into our little town in Maine, they had kids and after 20 years started to proclaim themselves natives. The man got taken aside and told that while he was a welcome, valued member of the community he was NOT a native. He exclaimed that his children whom had lived there their whole lives must certainly be natives. The real native replied If your cat had kittens in the oven you wouldn't call them biscuits. Eventually after 40 years in town the man died, on his tombstone they put He was almost one of us. Maine humor, nothing like it. thankfully. Casey Olympia, WA Biodiesel: I drive in a persistent vegetative state '87 300TD intercooler/propane #22 0-60mph 7.3sec (220k) '84 300D (218k) Gashuffer: '89 Vanagon Wolfsburg Edition (187K) http://users.zhonka.net/zeitgeist/Misc/IMG_0171.JPG
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And we think canines are territorial. Brian On 1/4/07, Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: They are newbies... A man and his wife moved into our little town in Maine, they had kids and after 20 years started to proclaim themselves natives. The man got taken aside and told that while he was a welcome, valued member of the community he was NOT a native. He exclaimed that his children whom had lived there their whole lives must certainly be natives. The real native replied If your cat had kittens in the oven you wouldn't call them biscuits. Eventually after 40 years in town the man died, on his tombstone they put He was almost one of us. Maine humor, nothing like it. thankfully. -Curt
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Zeitgeist wrote: Dude, I've met folks just like that. I'm just the messenger. This state is plum full of kooks. I think people just got kind of tired, during the 90s, of Californians moving into the area, driving rent up to extraordinary levels, and then whining about the rain.
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Zoltan Finks wrote: I'm a vegetarian environmentalist who is against gay marriage and handouts for illegals (for example). Homosexuals seem to be one of the few minorities it's still okay to discriminate against. I've always found it striking that the arguments against gay marriage are mostly the same ones that were used against interracial marriage, back when that was illegal.
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David noted: Californians moving into the area, driving rent up to extraordinary levels, and then whining about the rain. Kind of the same around here in AZ...Cal people sold their homes for obsene amounts of moola over there, moved here, bought two or three homes, drove the price up exponentially. As evidence, the home I sold in '02 for $239K just resold for $441K and the guy was hammered by the neighbors for setting the price too low (it sold in two days). Now, instead of whining about the rain, they whine about the heat. Bob Rentfro '77 300D 165K '87 Acura Legend 180K Litchfield Park, AZ. - Original Message - From: David Brodbeck [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, January 04, 2007 12:30 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Washington State Zeitgeist wrote: Dude, I've met folks just like that. I'm just the messenger. This state is plum full of kooks. I think people just got kind of tired, during the 90s, of ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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David made the observation: Homosexuals seem to be one of the few minorities it's still okay to discriminate against. I've always found it striking that the arguments against gay marriage are mostly the same ones that were used against interracial marriage, back when that was illegal. Amen. Bob R
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Now feeling the other side of the migration issue: Trying to renew my license and register my 240D. It used to be a remarkably simple, quick, friendly process here in little Rochester, MN. But today I've been put on hold twice at one place, listened to a couple long recorded messages at another, and still don't have the answer I need. So it's off to stand in line and and embrace diversity. Ipod, where are you? Brian On 1/4/07, Zoltan Finks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And we think canines are territorial. Brian On 1/4/07, Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: They are newbies... A man and his wife moved into our little town in Maine, they had kids and after 20 years started to proclaim themselves natives. The man got taken aside and told that while he was a welcome, valued member of the community he was NOT a native. He exclaimed that his children whom had lived there their whole lives must certainly be natives. The real native replied If your cat had kittens in the oven you wouldn't call them biscuits. Eventually after 40 years in town the man died, on his tombstone they put He was almost one of us. Maine humor, nothing like it. thankfully. -Curt
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I'm not hating on homosexuals. Life is teaching me that I can't do that. But denying them access to the institution of marriage is no more discrimation than my being denied access to the million mile club, or the lady's tennis club. I just don't have the specific qualifications. Let's maybe form something like a nation-wide civil union with full marriage benefits? Brian On 1/4/07, Bob Rentfro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: David made the observation: Homosexuals seem to be one of the few minorities it's still okay to discriminate against. I've always found it striking that the arguments against gay marriage are mostly the same ones that were used against interracial marriage, back when that was illegal. Amen. Bob R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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I never said anybody wasn't welcome, Maine is a very welcoming state. -Curt Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2007 09:21:40 -0800 From: Zeitgeist [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Washington State (was: rear exhaust hanger question) To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed I like that Maine humor. It's the only other state I could imagine living for an extended period. Obviously, that wouldn't make me a native, nor even welcome. I constantly give my wife grief because she was born in Virginia, yet claims to be a WA native. She moved out to Seattle at age three months. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thu Jan 04 20:40:11 2007 Received: from mail.atlasok.com ([70.184.24.3]) by server8.arterytc8.net with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.52) id 1H2ZNi-0004vF-TN for mercedes@okiebenz.com; Thu, 04 Jan 2007 20:40:11 + Received: (qmail 19249 invoked by uid 508); 4 Jan 2007 14:37:11 -0600 Received: from 70.184.20.61 by mail2.atlasok.com (envelope-from [EMAIL PROTECTED], uid 508) with qmail-scanner-2.01st (clamdscan: 0.90rc2/2257. spamassassin: 2.x. perlscan: 2.01st. Clear:RC:1(70.184.20.61):. Processed in 0.034363 secs); 04 Jan 2007 20:37:11 - Received: from 70-184-20-61.atlasok.com (HELO [192.168.1.100]) (70.184.20.61) by mail.atlasok.com with SMTP; Thu, 04 Jan 2007 14:37:10 -0600 Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 04 Jan 2007 14:37:01 -0600 From: Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040804 Netscape/7.2 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Subject: Re: [MBZ] 5 speed getrag X-BeenThere: mercedes@okiebenz.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9.cp1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com List-Id: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes_okiebenz.com.okiebenz.com List-Unsubscribe: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: /pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com List-Post: mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 04 Jan 2007 20:40:11 - Im getting ready to take some because Im going to throw it up on ebay tonight. I do know it was out of a 110 car. J.B. Hebert wrote: Got any pics? Might help for ID purposes. J.B. At 03:23 PM 1/4/2007, you wrote: OK, I got to looking at the MB 5 speed getrag I have. I dont see any 7xx type number on it, only thing it has is a couple of 117 part numbers on the case. This tranny has the bell housing for starter on the drivers side, like the older ones. Its removable so could a person install the later bell housing with starter on passenger side if they wanted to use it in a newer car, diesel or a 16 valve maybe? -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK (2x) 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D 2.2, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.432 / Virus Database: 268.16.5/616 - Release Date: 1/4/2007 1:34 PM -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK (2x) 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D 2.2, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] Washington State (was: rear exhaust hanger question)
On a different Washington note: How about the weather - the news is now officially blaming El Nino and, more interestingly, global warming for the wierd weather across the country. We are enjoying a downright balmy winter so far here in MN. And WA is getting a ton of rainstorms apparently. Brian On 1/4/07, Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I never said anybody wasn't welcome, Maine is a very welcoming state. -Curt Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2007 09:21:40 -0800 From: Zeitgeist [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Washington State (was: rear exhaust hanger question) To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed I like that Maine humor. It's the only other state I could imagine living for an extended period. Obviously, that wouldn't make me a native, nor even welcome. I constantly give my wife grief because she was born in Virginia, yet claims to be a WA native. She moved out to Seattle at age three months. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Curt reminded us: Maine is a very welcoming state I was in Portland in '88 and was made to feel at home. Maine is beautiful. The people are real. I believe if I hit the powerball and had to live somewhere I would, after i bought a new ACC servo, buy a house in Maine. Bob R. In 70 degree AZ...I bet it's not 70 in Maine. - Original Message - From: Zoltan Finks [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, January 04, 2007 3:21 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Washington State (was: rear exhaust hanger question) On a different Washington note: How about the weather - the news is now officially blaming El Nino and, more interestingly, global warming for the wierd weather across the country. We are enjoying a downright balmy winter so far here in MN. And WA is getting a ton of rainstorms apparently. Brian On 1/4/07, Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I never said anybody wasn't welcome, Maine is a very welcoming state. -Curt Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2007 09:21:40 -0800 From: Zeitgeist [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Washington State (was: rear exhaust hanger question) To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed I like that Maine humor. It's the only other state I could imagine living for an extended period. Obviously, that wouldn't make me a native, nor even welcome. I constantly give my wife grief because she was born in Virginia, yet claims to be a WA native. She moved out to Seattle at age three months. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Washington State
-- Message: 2 Date: Thu, 04 Jan 2007 11:33:38 -0800 From: David Brodbeck [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Washington State To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Homosexuals seem to be one of the few minorities it's still okay to discriminate against. I've always found it striking that the arguments against gay marriage are mostly the same ones that were used against interracial marriage, back when that was illegal. -- When was interracial marriage illegal? _ Get FREE Web site and company branded e-mail from Microsoft Office Live http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/mcrssaub0050001411mrt/direct/01/
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It was illegal here in SC until the '70's, if not later. Chris Kueny ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) 78 Chevy Custom deluxe '85 300TD '02 Subaru Outback I've always found it striking that the arguments against gay marriage are mostly the same ones that were used against interracial marriage, back when that was illegal. -- When was interracial marriage illegal?
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I believe if I hit the powerball and had to live somewhere I would, after i bought a new ACC servo, buy a house in Maine. And drive the old '77 300D? Cool! If I was in such a situation, I would consider moving up to a 1986-7 300SDL or a W124 300TD wagon. Hheck, with that kind of jackpot, I could afford to buy them all along with a nice property with plenty of garages to house them all! Of course, the old '83 300SD would stay too since it would still be fun to adjust valves once in a while. Kevin in Hillsboro, OR 1983 300SD 265K miles, Ursula
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Don't get so snooty, the high tomorrow is supposed to be 49F in Portland... Tops out at 100F for maybe 1 day in the summer.. Of course its 99% humidity for that week. -Curt Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2007 15:37:55 -0700 From: Bob Rentfro [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Washington State (was: rear exhaust hanger question) To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=original Curt reminded us: Maine is a very welcoming state I was in Portland in '88 and was made to feel at home. Maine is beautiful. The people are real. I believe if I hit the powerball and had to live somewhere I would, after i bought a new ACC servo, buy a house in Maine. Bob R. In 70 degree AZ...I bet it's not 70 in Maine. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thu Jan 04 23:14:45 2007 Received: from wx-out-0506.google.com ([66.249.82.227]) by server8.arterytc8.net with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1H2bnJ-0001to-LG for mercedes@okiebenz.com; Thu, 04 Jan 2007 23:14:45 + Received: by wx-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id h30so6904300wxd for mercedes@okiebenz.com; Thu, 04 Jan 2007 15:11:36 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.90.72.10 with SMTP id u10mr509626aga.1167952296057; Thu, 04 Jan 2007 15:11:36 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.90.63.13 with HTTP; Thu, 4 Jan 2007 15:11:35 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2007 17:11:35 -0600 From: Zoltan Finks [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] MIME-Version: 1.0 References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9.cp1 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Gas vs. diesel prices? X-BeenThere: mercedes@okiebenz.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9.cp1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com List-Id: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes_okiebenz.com.okiebenz.com List-Unsubscribe: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: /pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com List-Post: mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 04 Jan 2007 23:14:45 - This has been my understanding too, though far less educated than some. My '92 Harley Sportster needed at least 92 octane according the the manual. It pinged on acceleration in all but the coolest months in the PHX area (even on 92 or 93 octane). The guy who sold me my Saab claimed that Super or Premium, call it what you may, contained good juices and additives and it should be run every few tanks whether or not your engine needs the octane. I believe him as much as I believe that he was going to fix the power steering and that the sunroof doesn't leak. Brian David wrote: Generally you want to go by what the owner's manual says. If the manual says 87 octane, you won't gain anything by using 91.
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Chris Kueny wrote: It was illegal here in SC until the '70's, if not later. Chris Kueny ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) 78 Chevy Custom deluxe '85 300TD '02 Subaru Outback I've always found it striking that the arguments against gay marriage are mostly the same ones that were used against interracial marriage, back when that was illegal. -- When was interracial marriage illegal? It was called miscegenation and it was illegal in many states. The first such law was enacted in Maryland in 1661. The US Supreme Court shot down miscegenation laws in all states in 1967. The only state NOT to seek to enact a miscegenation law was Vermont. None the less, some states were so racist that they would not remove the anti-miscegenation statutes from their books. Alabama finally voted to take its statute off the books in 2000. Lee
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Brian - If you're moving to that paradise called Washington State, you need to be aware that there's a not too subtle organization, mostly in Seattle, that's known as the KBOs. Years ago, they were reported to have put up signs on the Northbound lanes of I-5 for California drivers, welcoming a visit but not to stay; made up slogans about do not californicate Washington; even wrote about the group in editorials in the Seattle papers. You can guess what the initials stand for! Werner ;-))) - Original Message - From: Zoltan Finks [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, January 02, 2007 10:19 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] rear exhaust hanger question That sounds good. I'll have to go back and read that a few more times. Any word on whether Washington state requires vehicle inspections? Or are all you WA guys boycotting me because I'm getting ready to add two more people to your paradise? Brian
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Nothing personal, but just come and spend lots of money, then get the hell out. On 1/2/07, Werner Fehlauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Brian - If you're moving to that paradise called Washington State, you need to be aware that there's a not too subtle organization, mostly in Seattle, that's known as the KBOs. Years ago, they were reported to have put up signs on the Northbound lanes of I-5 for California drivers, welcoming a visit but not to stay; made up slogans about do not californicate Washington; even wrote about the group in editorials in the Seattle papers. You can guess what the initials stand for! Casey Olympia, WA Biodiesel: I drive in a persistent vegetative state '87 300TD intercooler/propane #22 0-60mph 7.3sec (220k) '84 300D (218k) Gashuffer: '89 Vanagon Wolfsburg Edition (187K) http://users.zhonka.net/zeitgeist/Misc/IMG_0171.JPG
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If you are moving to King County, we are welcoming more republicrats. If you are a demicon, we have no need for you. Move to Sequim or Cashmere On Jan 2, 2007, at 7:49 PM, Zeitgeist wrote: Nothing personal, but just come and spend lots of money, then get the hell out. On 1/2/07, Werner Fehlauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Brian - If you're moving to that paradise called Washington State, you need to be aware that there's a not too subtle organization, mostly in Seattle, that's known as the KBOs. Years ago, they were reported to have put up signs on the Northbound lanes of I-5 for California drivers, welcoming a visit but not to stay; made up slogans about do not californicate Washington; even wrote about the group in editorials in the Seattle papers. You can guess what the initials stand for! Casey Olympia, WA Biodiesel: I drive in a persistent vegetative state '87 300TD intercooler/propane #22 0-60mph 7.3sec (220k) '84 300D (218k) Gashuffer: '89 Vanagon Wolfsburg Edition (187K) http://users.zhonka.net/zeitgeist/Misc/IMG_0171.JPG ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz
Re: [MBZ] Washington State (was: rear exhaust hanger question)
See what I mean? If you spend any time up here, you're forced to deal with extremist wackos at either end of the spectrum, like Clay and me*. You have been warned Now git off my praperty, farner *can you guess which of us is at which end of the nutpole? On 1/2/07, Redghost [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you are moving to King County, we are welcoming more republicrats. If you are a demicon, we have no need for you. Move to Sequim or Cashmere Casey Olympia, WA Biodiesel: I drive in a persistent vegetative state '87 300TD intercooler/propane #22 0-60mph 7.3sec (220k) '84 300D (218k) Gashuffer: '89 Vanagon Wolfsburg Edition (187K) http://users.zhonka.net/zeitgeist/Misc/IMG_0171.JPG
Re: [MBZ] Washington State (was: rear exhaust hanger question)
Wow. You guys really are a piece of work. If you spoke about an imigrant coming to the U.S., that way, you'd be labeled bigots. One more comment like that, Zeitgeist, and I'll have to finally ask you if you are speaking in jest, or if your really are confronting me. And if you are, I'll have to allow you to defend your position. Brian On 1/2/07, Redghost [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you are moving to King County, we are welcoming more republicrats. If you are a demicon, we have no need for you. Move to Sequim or Cashmere On Jan 2, 2007, at 7:49 PM, Zeitgeist wrote: Nothing personal, but just come and spend lots of money, then get the hell out. On 1/2/07, Werner Fehlauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Brian - If you're moving to that paradise called Washington State, you need to be aware that there's a not too subtle organization, mostly in Seattle, that's known as the KBOs. Years ago, they were reported to have put up signs on the Northbound lanes of I-5 for California drivers, welcoming a visit but not to stay; made up slogans about do not californicate Washington; even wrote about the group in editorials in the Seattle papers. You can guess what the initials stand for! Casey Olympia, WA Biodiesel: I drive in a persistent vegetative state '87 300TD intercooler/propane #22 0-60mph 7.3sec (220k) '84 300D (218k) Gashuffer: '89 Vanagon Wolfsburg Edition (187K) http://users.zhonka.net/zeitgeist/Misc/IMG_0171.JPG ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Washington State (was: rear exhaust hanger question)
Dude, I've met folks just like that. I'm just the messenger. This state is plum full of kooks. On 1/2/07, Zoltan Finks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wow. You guys really are a piece of work. If you spoke about an imigrant coming to the U.S., that way, you'd be labeled bigots. One more comment like that, Zeitgeist, and I'll have to finally ask you if you are speaking in jest, or if your really are confronting me. And if you are, I'll have to allow you to defend your position. Casey Olympia, WA Biodiesel: I drive in a persistent vegetative state '87 300TD intercooler/propane #22 0-60mph 7.3sec (220k) '84 300D (218k) Gashuffer: '89 Vanagon Wolfsburg Edition (187K) http://users.zhonka.net/zeitgeist/Misc/IMG_0171.JPG
Re: [MBZ] Washington State (was: rear exhaust hanger question)
And there is something in the water and air that makes the liberals become vegan. Then they get all sorts of medical issues related to a lack of iron and protein from not eating all the mad cows. We vote and we are crazy! Just go away. Well, bring your old Benz, than go away. On Jan 2, 2007, at 9:20 PM, Zeitgeist wrote: See what I mean? If you spend any time up here, you're forced to deal with extremist wackos at either end of the spectrum, like Clay and me*. You have been warned Now git off my praperty, farner *can you guess which of us is at which end of the nutpole? On 1/2/07, Redghost [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you are moving to King County, we are welcoming more republicrats. If you are a demicon, we have no need for you. Move to Sequim or Cashmere Casey Olympia, WA Biodiesel: I drive in a persistent vegetative state '87 300TD intercooler/propane #22 0-60mph 7.3sec (220k) '84 300D (218k) Gashuffer: '89 Vanagon Wolfsburg Edition (187K) http://users.zhonka.net/zeitgeist/Misc/IMG_0171.JPG ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz
Re: [MBZ] Washington State (was: rear exhaust hanger question)
The soviet socialist state of Washington accepts all sort of folks. As long as your promise to vote pinko, be on welfare, spew forth babies that do not share a sperm donor, eat vegan, do not speak english, be on meth or crack, and enter the country without proper documentation. Welcome! On Jan 2, 2007, at 9:23 PM, Zoltan Finks wrote: Wow. You guys really are a piece of work. If you spoke about an imigrant coming to the U.S., that way, you'd be labeled bigots. One more comment like that, Zeitgeist, and I'll have to finally ask you if you are speaking in jest, or if your really are confronting me. And if you are, I'll have to allow you to defend your position. Brian On 1/2/07, Redghost [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you are moving to King County, we are welcoming more republicrats. If you are a demicon, we have no need for you. Move to Sequim or Cashmere On Jan 2, 2007, at 7:49 PM, Zeitgeist wrote: Nothing personal, but just come and spend lots of money, then get the hell out. On 1/2/07, Werner Fehlauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Brian - If you're moving to that paradise called Washington State, you need to be aware that there's a not too subtle organization, mostly in Seattle, that's known as the KBOs. Years ago, they were reported to have put up signs on the Northbound lanes of I-5 for California drivers, welcoming a visit but not to stay; made up slogans about do not californicate Washington; even wrote about the group in editorials in the Seattle papers. You can guess what the initials stand for! Casey Olympia, WA Biodiesel: I drive in a persistent vegetative state '87 300TD intercooler/propane #22 0-60mph 7.3sec (220k) '84 300D (218k) Gashuffer: '89 Vanagon Wolfsburg Edition (187K) http://users.zhonka.net/zeitgeist/Misc/IMG_0171.JPG ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz
Re: [MBZ] Washington State (was: rear exhaust hanger question)
[cough]Need I say more?[/cough] Enter at your own peril...oh, and don't forget to bring all your favorite Microsoft tribute for Clay. Clay basks in Bill's benevolent glory. On 1/2/07, Redghost [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The soviet socialist state of Washington accepts all sort of folks. As long as your promise to vote pinko, be on welfare, spew forth babies that do not share a sperm donor, eat vegan, do not speak english, be on meth or crack, and enter the country without proper documentation. Welcome! Casey Olympia, WA Biodiesel: I drive in a persistent vegetative state '87 300TD intercooler/propane #22 0-60mph 7.3sec (220k) '84 300D (218k) Gashuffer: '89 Vanagon Wolfsburg Edition (187K) http://users.zhonka.net/zeitgeist/Misc/IMG_0171.JPG
Re: [MBZ] Washington State (was: rear exhaust hanger question)
Gotcha. I take things too seriously sometimes. I am accustomed to being around folks with whom I vehmently disagree. That's the curse of being from my own mold (I probably agree with both you you cats on some issues). I'm a vegetarian environmentalist who is against gay marriage and handouts for illegals (for example). I'm used to not fitting in. You'z guyz's brand of welcome should feel familiar. Brian On 1/3/07, Zeitgeist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [cough]Need I say more?[/cough] Enter at your own peril...oh, and don't forget to bring all your favorite Microsoft tribute for Clay. Clay basks in Bill's benevolent glory. On 1/2/07, Redghost [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The soviet socialist state of Washington accepts all sort of folks. As long as your promise to vote pinko, be on welfare, spew forth babies that do not share a sperm donor, eat vegan, do not speak english, be on meth or crack, and enter the country without proper documentation. Welcome! Casey Olympia, WA Biodiesel: I drive in a persistent vegetative state '87 300TD intercooler/propane #22 0-60mph 7.3sec (220k) '84 300D (218k) Gashuffer: '89 Vanagon Wolfsburg Edition (187K) http://users.zhonka.net/zeitgeist/Misc/IMG_0171.JPG ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Washington State
the curse of being from my own mold (I probably agree with both you you cats on some issues). I'm a vegetarian environmentalist... Hey, if there are words for it it's too general for me. I refuse to join any club that would have me as a member... and all that. I knew a Vegan once, but I think it finally rusted away on him. -- Jim
Re: [MBZ] Washington State (was: rear exhaust hanger question)
On 1/2/07, Zoltan Finks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am accustomed to being around folks with whom I vehmently disagree. That's the curse of being from my own mold (I probably agree with both you you cats on some issues). I'm a vegetarian environmentalist who is against gay marriage and handouts for illegals (for example). I'm used to not fitting in. Not just Washington but the whole of the Pacific Northwest is well known for the high population of weirdos, individualists, and iconoclasts. If you don't fit in, you'll fit right in. ;) And if Washington isn't weird enough for you, come on down to Oregon. We have a much worse economy, but we make up for it: marijuana and machine guns are both legal here. ;) Alex Chamberlain '87 300D Turbo '92 Isuzu Trooper
Re: [MBZ] Washington State (was: rear exhaust hanger question)
Man, the general concensus seems to be that the Pac. NW consists of a majority of wierdos. Growing up in AZ, there was a joke that California was the land of the fruits and nuts. Maybe all the Californians moved north and all the Mexicans have moved to their north as well. And this notion of organized resistance and protests, etc. to people moving in and californicating Washinton - wow. I bet the majority of these protesters would consider the same type of protesting against foreign immigration to be one of the cardinal sins. Whatever, it won't be the first time I've felt the you ain't from around here syndrome (having moved from Tucson to a relatively small town in Minnesota - with a bald head at the time). Actually, when we were checking out our probable new town Bainbridge Island, we were very surprised that we didn't run into any of the sort of resistance I'm hearing of. People seemed pretty genuine and welcoming even when they heard we're moving there. Maybe they've got their own version of Minnesota Nice (which, we've found, is skin-deep - be nice face to face, and thus gather a bunch of information to be used in gossip sessons later). Brian Alex wrote: And if Washington isn't weird enough for you, come on down to Oregon. We have a much worse economy, but we make up for it: marijuana and machine guns are both legal here. ;) Alex Chamberlain '87 300D Turbo '92 Isuzu Trooper ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Washington State (was: rear exhaust hanger question)
I had a friendly gent down in Yuma AZ gently suggest that my friend and I keep on-a-movin, when we were passing through town. Apparently a couple of WA longhairs in a VW bus ain't too welcome down in those parts. Trust me, until you learn the secret handshake, we'll find uniquely devious and covert ways in which to undermine your health and well-being. Remember to slap the I 3 Bill bumper sticker on, just for Clay. On 1/3/07, Zoltan Finks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Man, the general concensus seems to be that the Pac. NW consists of a majority of wierdos. Growing up in AZ, there was a joke that California was the land of the fruits and nuts. Maybe all the Californians moved north and all the Mexicans have moved to their north as well. And this notion of organized resistance and protests, etc. to people moving in and californicating Washinton - wow. I bet the majority of these protesters would consider the same type of protesting against foreign immigration to be one of the cardinal sins. Whatever, it won't be the first time I've felt the you ain't from around here syndrome (having moved from Tucson to a relatively small town in Minnesota - with a bald head at the time). Actually, when we were checking out our probable new town Bainbridge Island, we were very surprised that we didn't run into any of the sort of resistance I'm hearing of. People seemed pretty genuine and welcoming even when they heard we're moving there. Maybe they've got their own version of Minnesota Nice (which, we've found, is skin-deep - be nice face to face, and thus gather a bunch of information to be used in gossip sessons later). Casey Olympia, WA Biodiesel: I drive in a persistent vegetative state '87 300TD intercooler/propane #22 0-60mph 7.3sec (220k) '84 300D (218k) Gashuffer: '89 Vanagon Wolfsburg Edition (187K) http://users.zhonka.net/zeitgeist/Misc/IMG_0171.JPG
Re: [MBZ] Washington State (was: rear exhaust hanger question)
The folks in the Pacific Northwest are like any others - treat them like you want to be treated, and you'll get along just fine. Living in NE Tacoma for 3 years, we found the locals all to be as nice or better than we've seen anywhere in the USA - and we all laughed at the tongue-in-cheek comments about immigrants from other states. There was always the unwritten law though that insisted that it rains all the time in Seattle, to discourage too much of an inclination to attract newcomers. In actuality, New York City gets more rainfall every year, although over less days (average). What people don't realize is that Washington has not only high desert that requires irrigation to produce crops, but also has desert and rain forest conditions on the Olympic peninsula. The neat part is that most years, there are flowers and green grass, and little snow to bother with for any long periods. Now if you want a bit of snobbery (flame suit on), take a good look at the old New England states, where if you didn't get your feet wet while climbing off the Mayflower, you are just a newbie. Werner - Original Message - From: Zoltan Finks [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, January 03, 2007 1:36 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Washington State (was: rear exhaust hanger question) Man, the general concensus seems to be that the Pac. NW consists of a majority of wierdos. Growing up in AZ, there was a joke that California was the land of the fruits and nuts. Maybe all the Californians moved north and all the Mexicans have moved to their north as well. And this notion of organized resistance and protests, etc. to people moving in and californicating Washinton - wow. I bet the majority of these protesters would consider the same type of protesting against foreign immigration to be one of the cardinal sins. Whatever, it won't be the first time I've felt the you ain't from around here syndrome (having moved from Tucson to a relatively small town in Minnesota - with a bald head at the time). Actually, when we were checking out our probable new town Bainbridge Island, we were very surprised that we didn't run into any of the sort of resistance I'm hearing of. People seemed pretty genuine and welcoming even when they heard we're moving there. Maybe they've got their own version of Minnesota Nice (which, we've found, is skin-deep - be nice face to face, and thus gather a bunch of information to be used in gossip sessons later). Brian
Re: [MBZ] Washington State (was: rear exhaust hanger question)
Dude, you're paranoid. My job is done. On 1/3/07, Zoltan Finks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That's what people do in Yuma: gas up and pass through. And, again with the threats against my person. I suppose this nebuous we plans to attack my wife and family too. We'll have to steer clear of any restaurants with an older, bumper sticker-bearing Mercedes parked around back. Casey Olympia, WA Biodiesel: I drive in a persistent vegetative state '87 300TD intercooler/propane #22 0-60mph 7.3sec (220k) '84 300D (218k) Gashuffer: '89 Vanagon Wolfsburg Edition (187K) http://users.zhonka.net/zeitgeist/Misc/IMG_0171.JPG
Re: [MBZ] Washington State (was: rear exhaust hanger question)
Dude, I'm just not used to people saying things they do not mean. Kindly reserve your name-calling for whatever other lists you belong to. If I'm paranoid, it's not your place to say it. All I did was ask you to explain your bizarre, threatening posts to me, and clearly you take such a request as a challenge to do more of what you do. Can't seem to break character. Brian Zeitgiest, you wrote: we'll find uniquely devious and covert ways in which to undermine your health and well-being On 1/3/07, Zeitgeist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dude, you're paranoid. My job is done. On 1/3/07, Zoltan Finks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That's what people do in Yuma: gas up and pass through. And, again with the threats against my person. I suppose this nebuous we plans to attack my wife and family too. We'll have to steer clear of any restaurants with an older, bumper sticker-bearing Mercedes parked around back. Casey Olympia, WA Biodiesel: I drive in a persistent vegetative state '87 300TD intercooler/propane #22 0-60mph 7.3sec (220k) '84 300D (218k) Gashuffer: '89 Vanagon Wolfsburg Edition (187K) http://users.zhonka.net/zeitgeist/Misc/IMG_0171.JPG ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Washington State (was: rear exhaust hanger question)
Oi vey... On 1/3/07, Zoltan Finks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dude, I'm just not used to people saying things they do not mean. Kindly reserve your name-calling for whatever other lists you belong to. If I'm paranoid, it's not your place to say it. All I did was ask you to explain your bizarre, threatening posts to me, and clearly you take such a request as a challenge to do more of what you do. Can't seem to break character. Casey Olympia, WA Biodiesel: I drive in a persistent vegetative state '87 300TD intercooler/propane #22 0-60mph 7.3sec (220k) '84 300D (218k) Gashuffer: '89 Vanagon Wolfsburg Edition (187K) http://users.zhonka.net/zeitgeist/Misc/IMG_0171.JPG
