Re: [MBZ] We've had just about enough

2020-09-19 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes

On 2020-09-19 10:11, Jim Cathey via Mercedes wrote:

This was the "fine, you don't like what I provide?  Then YOU go
pick out a car, and take care of it yourself" vehicle.  We bought it
used, not new.


My ML350 (3.7 V6) is good for 18-20 mpg, don't know what that 
corresponds to with Jill driving.
Liftgate not tailgate, feels short and Jeeplike, but is supposed to have 
pretty good offroad capability for a 'luxury SUV'. With the right tires 
and 4Matic it would have done well on your ice mountain.


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Re: [MBZ] We've had just about enough

2020-09-19 Thread Jim Cathey via Mercedes
The X5 is a good-looking car, and had all the features we needed.
It felt safe and solid, and the I6 engine was strong enough and got
somewhat better mileage.  I think the usual fillup was 21mpg.  I
really like the tailgate, gives you a place to sit if you want.  The hill
descent button, used something like three times on the worst luge
days, was somewhat amazing.  The car was highly satisfactory,
_as a car_, but its appetite for money was untenable.

This was the "fine, you don't like what I provide?  Then YOU go
pick out a car, and take care of it yourself" vehicle.  We bought it
used, not new.

But we're sick of its crap, and we don't need it anymore.  Kid's in
college now; soccer mom is over.

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] We've had just about enough

2020-09-19 Thread Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes
Oh gosh. You actually bought one of those things? That is a  3 year
lease-only machine. Everything else is just a world of pain. All BMWs are
similar. You can buy a 65,000 528i and 5 years later it is a 9000 car.
Poof. Leaking oil everywhere with a trunk that doesnt work.

Anyway not that anyone asked but my advice for anyone needing a 3 row suv
in the city is a Lexus 460gx. I could go on and on about it, but no need.
We did 1400 miles door to door with four people and a 100lb komondor
through 117 degree weather and the rocky mountains, Utah kitty corner,
Wyoming, california, Nevada and South Dakota last July. Rooftop tent, 120qt
cooler and a cargo box on the hitch. Car never missed a beat. Super stable
at 80mph uphill, downhill, 30mph headwinds, crosswinds yada yada. Lots of
power, low range for getting up trails, full sized spare. LA seems to have
figured this out. They are everywhere here. Nice. Heavy, safe truck. They
havent changed it since 2015 or so, and I hope they never do. Well maybe
the motor eats less timing belts now or something at 200k miles than it
used to. Not sure; it has never been in the shop except to turn the brake
rotors and change the oil. V8 power, premium gas. AC will freeze you out in
the Valley of Fire. A 570 or land cruiser might be superior in terms of
room inside, but those dont fit in a parking spot as easily.

The 460 was the replacement for a 2018 diesel x5 that ate it's $11,000 high
pressure fuel pump twice in 8000 miles and left us standing by the road
each time. BMW finally asked for it back as they were too far in the hole
and getting deeper on the deal. We drive it for free for 6 months and I
would still never consider operating another BMW of any flavor as long as I
live. They are a blight on humanity. My wife owned a 528 when I met her and
I was too dumb to learn from that experience. Absolute waste of metal.

On Fri, Sep 18, 2020, 5:58 PM Jim Cathey via Mercedes 
wrote:

> The BMW X5 is back from the shop, $1200 and it's already running rough
> again after a couple of days.  It'll be going back 'on warrantee' I think.
>
> It has a bad driver's-side motor mount, resulting in the usual on-rails
> noises, but also resulting in the front driveline's CV joint scraping on
> the frame, which lathed off the clamping band.  In BMW's infinite wisdom,
> what should be a cheap and easy repair is not, imagine that.
>
> Disgusted, I removed the aluminum pan underneath and jacked up the
> engine about an inch.  I got an old piece of heavy radiator hose,
> wire-reinforced,
> and hammered it flat.  I put a 1x4 hardwood stick in it, and wedged the
> whole
> thing between the front transfer case (the contacting body) and the frame,
> and
> buttoned it back up.  A zip tie re-secured the CV boot.  After a shakedown
> drive
> I looked, and there's still plenty of clearance betwixt frame and CV boot,
> unlike
> before.  It's not as quiet as it should be, but it's a lot quieter than it
> was.
>
> This thing's going on the market.  The motor mount need will be disclosed.
> We're going to be shut of it, the by-far worst automotive 'investment'
> we've
> ever had.  We no longer need what it was bought for, a newer mommy-van to
> soothe
> the psyches of the other mommies in the car pool who were frightened of
> anything
> that was visibly off-warrantee, so it's time for it to go.  We have three
> 4wd pickup trucks
> for any carrying/towing duties that might come up, and any of the sedans
> holds as many
> people as the X5.  The E320 sedans are also 4wd, and have heated seats, so
> that's the
> winter end of the list covered too.
>
> Never again!
>
> -- Jim
>
>
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[MBZ] We've had just about enough

2020-09-18 Thread Jim Cathey via Mercedes
The BMW X5 is back from the shop, $1200 and it's already running rough
again after a couple of days.  It'll be going back 'on warrantee' I think.

It has a bad driver's-side motor mount, resulting in the usual on-rails
noises, but also resulting in the front driveline's CV joint scraping on
the frame, which lathed off the clamping band.  In BMW's infinite wisdom,
what should be a cheap and easy repair is not, imagine that.

Disgusted, I removed the aluminum pan underneath and jacked up the
engine about an inch.  I got an old piece of heavy radiator hose, 
wire-reinforced,
and hammered it flat.  I put a 1x4 hardwood stick in it, and wedged the whole
thing between the front transfer case (the contacting body) and the frame, and
buttoned it back up.  A zip tie re-secured the CV boot.  After a shakedown drive
I looked, and there's still plenty of clearance betwixt frame and CV boot, 
unlike
before.  It's not as quiet as it should be, but it's a lot quieter than it was.

This thing's going on the market.  The motor mount need will be disclosed.
We're going to be shut of it, the by-far worst automotive 'investment' we've
ever had.  We no longer need what it was bought for, a newer mommy-van to soothe
the psyches of the other mommies in the car pool who were frightened of anything
that was visibly off-warrantee, so it's time for it to go.  We have three 4wd 
pickup trucks
for any carrying/towing duties that might come up, and any of the sedans holds 
as many
people as the X5.  The E320 sedans are also 4wd, and have heated seats, so 
that's the
winter end of the list covered too.

Never again!

-- Jim


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