Re: [MBZ] What Should I Start Amassing?
I'll take your word for it. Bob R. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Luther Sent: Sunday, February 17, 2008 6:05 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] What Should I Start Amassing? Or by cranking the engine so each cylinder is at TDC when you work on it's valves. Valve stem seals are very sensitive and a pain-staking process, don't ask me how I know Luther On Sun, 17 Feb 2008 18:50:49 -0600, LarryT [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Bob, An engine that smokes after a short idle is an indication the Valve Stem Seals are bad. There are ways to change them by pressurizing the cylinder and avoiding removal of the head. At least thats the way it is done on gassers and I see no reason why a diesel couldn't be done the same way. Anyway, that is Larry T (66 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs . -- Luther KB5QHUAlma, Ark '87 300SDL (272,xxx mi) head case '85 Ford F250 6.9 diesel (x58,xxx mi) '82 300CD (166 kmi) '82 300D (74 kmi) getting donor engine-sold '85 300D (280,176) parts car sans engine ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Valve stem seals are very sensitive and a painstaking process... I had a 450SL that smoked vilely due to damaged seals on one cylinder. (It also fouled that plug quickly.) I replaced only the two and drove it for thousands of miles and several years before selling the car. Cured the problem completely. It wasn't all that hard on that particular car. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Mitch typed: I'd unhook the breather tube from the valve cover, or reroute it to a jar. If the car quits burning oil and sprays it out the breather instead, you might see if there's a big gap in the breather tube in the valve cover. If the oil still comes out the exhaust without the breather dumping oil in the intake, it's got to be coming through the rings, valve guides, or head gasket. If the car passes a cylinder leakdown test, I'd think the valve stem seals would be worth trying. AH HA! A troubleshooting plan. The nuke in me likes it. Bob R. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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So you think it might simply be valve stem seals? Do you have that evolution documented on a web page? Bob R -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jim Cathey Sent: Monday, February 18, 2008 8:47 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] What Should I Start Amassing? Valve stem seals are very sensitive and a painstaking process... I had a 450SL that smoked vilely due to damaged seals on one cylinder. (It also fouled that plug quickly.) I replaced only the two and drove it for thousands of miles and several years before selling the car. Cured the problem completely. It wasn't all that hard on that particular car. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Robert Rentfro wrote: So you think it might simply be valve stem seals? Do you have that evolution documented on a web page? I'd unhook the breather tube from the valve cover, or reroute it to a jar. If the car quits burning oil and sprays it out the breather instead, you might see if there's a big gap in the breather tube in the valve cover. If the oil still comes out the exhaust without the breather dumping oil in the intake, it's got to be coming through the rings, valve guides, or head gasket. If the car passes a cylinder leakdown test, I'd think the valve stem seals would be worth trying. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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So you think it might simply be valve stem seals? I do not know. I was sweating the SL's problem, but decided to risk the small price of a seal kit and some time before diving into major engine work. Fortunately for me it worked. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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The symptoms indicate Valve Stem Seals. A car that idles then produces a plume of white smoke when the car pulls away are typically valve stem seal related. A car that emits white smoke when driving at a steady speed indicates a problem with rings. You indicated there was smoke after stopping at a light IIRC - Valve Stem Seals. You will need to find a shop willing to use compressed air to hold the valves up (with the piston for that cylinder at TDC) while the seals are replaced. Many will say the heads must be removed. Good luck - Larry T (66 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs . - Original Message - From: Robert Rentfro [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, February 18, 2008 10:58 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] What Should I Start Amassing? So you think it might simply be valve stem seals? Do you have that evolution documented on a web page? Bob R -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jim Cathey Sent: Monday, February 18, 2008 8:47 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] What Should I Start Amassing? Valve stem seals are very sensitive and a painstaking process... I had a 450SL that smoked vilely due to damaged seals on one cylinder. (It also fouled that plug quickly.) I replaced only the two and drove it for thousands of miles and several years before selling the car. Cured the problem completely. It wasn't all that hard on that particular car. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Generally, if a diesel starts easily when stone cold, there are not compression problems, and oil consumption must then be bad valve guide seals (often compounded by loose valve stem to guide clearance) or failed oil control rings. You won't see smoke until you are REALLY burning oil, upwards of a quart in 100 miles or so (my old 220D). Bad valve guide seals are worth a quart of oil in 1000 miles on any engine, believe it or not, and sometimes they dribble from the factory. On a gasser, ash deposits on the plugs are a sign, but you have to pull the head or use a borescope on a diesel to see the oil dripping off the intake valve. If you get a short puff of blue smoke on startup, especially warm after half an hour sit, suspect leakage past the valve stem seals. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Marshall would have suggested an Italian Tuneup, wouldn't he? Gerry -- From: OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] I'd try to find a known good engine, and swap it --- On Feb 16, 2008 9:15 PM, Robert Rentfro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm at 190K miles. Oil usage is consistently at 1 qt per 650 miles or so. It's burning, not dripping or getting into the air cleaner housing. Smokes more now on acceleration and at idle. Suppose it's time to address it. What do you think I'll have to do? What should I start buying now from Rusty? Who has a good step by step guide they can send me? I think I'll have to get a third car first.. Whaddya think. -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics. -Benjamin Disraeli and/or Mark Twain '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.20.2/1272 - Release Date: 2/11/2008 5:28 PM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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It's smoking enough that it may not pass the opacity test in August. Bob R -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gary Hurst Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2008 8:20 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] What Should I Start Amassing? i wouldn't do anything but drive it On Feb 16, 2008 10:18 PM, OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'd try to find a known good engine, and swap it --- On Feb 16, 2008 9:15 PM, Robert Rentfro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm at 190K miles. Oil usage is consistently at 1 qt per 650 miles or so. It's burning, not dripping or getting into the air cleaner housing. Smokes more now on acceleration and at idle. Suppose it's time to address it. What do you think I'll have to do? What should I start buying now from Rusty? Who has a good step by step guide they can send me? I think I'll have to get a third car first.. Whaddya think. -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics. -Benjamin Disraeli and/or Mark Twain '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Vacuum pump is fine. Where is the crankcase breather/PCV located on my engine? At the risk of sounding like an idiot, I'm not sure I have ever checked it. Jeez. BobR '77 300D 190K Starting to be Old Smoky -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mitch Haley Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2008 9:33 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] What Should I Start Amassing? OK Don wrote: I'd try to find a known good engine, and swap it --- I'd check out the vacuum pump and first. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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we don't have the kind of stuff in georgia On Feb 17, 2008 9:45 AM, Robert Rentfro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's smoking enough that it may not pass the opacity test in August. Bob R -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gary Hurst Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2008 8:20 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] What Should I Start Amassing? i wouldn't do anything but drive it On Feb 16, 2008 10:18 PM, OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'd try to find a known good engine, and swap it --- On Feb 16, 2008 9:15 PM, Robert Rentfro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm at 190K miles. Oil usage is consistently at 1 qt per 650 miles or so. It's burning, not dripping or getting into the air cleaner housing. Smokes more now on acceleration and at idle. Suppose it's time to address it. What do you think I'll have to do? What should I start buying now from Rusty? Who has a good step by step guide they can send me? I think I'll have to get a third car first.. Whaddya think. -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics. -Benjamin Disraeli and/or Mark Twain '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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It gets mini ones daily getting on the freeway to drive to the old nuke plant. The entrance ramp and the first two miles of freeway is a nice upgrade and from the moment I turn onto the entrance ramp until I hit 80, it's floored. BobR -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of archer Sent: Sunday, February 17, 2008 7:31 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] What Should I Start Amassing? Marshall would have suggested an Italian Tuneup, wouldn't he? Gerry -- From: OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] I'd try to find a known good engine, and swap it --- On Feb 16, 2008 9:15 PM, Robert Rentfro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm at 190K miles. Oil usage is consistently at 1 qt per 650 miles or so. It's burning, not dripping or getting into the air cleaner housing. Smokes more now on acceleration and at idle. Suppose it's time to address it. What do you think I'll have to do? What should I start buying now from Rusty? Who has a good step by step guide they can send me? I think I'll have to get a third car first.. Whaddya think. -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics. -Benjamin Disraeli and/or Mark Twain '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.20.2/1272 - Release Date: 2/11/2008 5:28 PM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Maybe it's time to upgrade to something with a turbo and keep this one for the backup/allow the kids to drive occasionally car. BobR -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of OK Don Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2008 8:19 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] What Should I Start Amassing? I'd try to find a known good engine, and swap it --- On Feb 16, 2008 9:15 PM, Robert Rentfro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm at 190K miles. Oil usage is consistently at 1 qt per 650 miles or so. It's burning, not dripping or getting into the air cleaner housing. Smokes more now on acceleration and at idle. Suppose it's time to address it. What do you think I'll have to do? What should I start buying now from Rusty? Who has a good step by step guide they can send me? I think I'll have to get a third car first.. Whaddya think. -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics. -Benjamin Disraeli and/or Mark Twain '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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I know. I wish we didn't here. It's just another way the state gets and additional $22 from me each year. Bob R -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gary Hurst Sent: Sunday, February 17, 2008 7:49 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] What Should I Start Amassing? we don't have the kind of stuff in georgia On Feb 17, 2008 9:45 AM, Robert Rentfro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's smoking enough that it may not pass the opacity test in August. Bob R -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gary Hurst Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2008 8:20 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] What Should I Start Amassing? i wouldn't do anything but drive it On Feb 16, 2008 10:18 PM, OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'd try to find a known good engine, and swap it --- On Feb 16, 2008 9:15 PM, Robert Rentfro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm at 190K miles. Oil usage is consistently at 1 qt per 650 miles or so. It's burning, not dripping or getting into the air cleaner housing. Smokes more now on acceleration and at idle. Suppose it's time to address it. What do you think I'll have to do? What should I start buying now from Rusty? Who has a good step by step guide they can send me? I think I'll have to get a third car first.. Whaddya think. -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics. -Benjamin Disraeli and/or Mark Twain '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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And then put valve guide seals on it. May need valve guides, and if so, likely new valves from seat wear. Peter OK Don wrote: I'd try to find a known good engine, and swap it --- I'd check out the vacuum pump and crankcase breather/PCV first. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Or by cranking the engine so each cylinder is at TDC when you work on it's valves. Valve stem seals are very sensitive and a pain-staking process, don't ask me how I know Luther On Sun, 17 Feb 2008 18:50:49 -0600, LarryT [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Bob, An engine that smokes after a short idle is an indication the Valve Stem Seals are bad. There are ways to change them by pressurizing the cylinder and avoiding removal of the head. At least thats the way it is done on gassers and I see no reason why a diesel couldn't be done the same way. Anyway, that is Larry T (66 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs . -- Luther KB5QHUAlma, Ark '87 300SDL (272,xxx mi) head case '85 Ford F250 6.9 diesel (x58,xxx mi) '82 300CD (166 kmi) '82 300D (74 kmi) getting donor engine-sold '85 300D (280,176) parts car sans engine ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Hi Bob, An engine that smokes after a short idle is an indication the Valve Stem Seals are bad. There are ways to change them by pressurizing the cylinder and avoiding removal of the head. At least thats the way it is done on gassers and I see no reason why a diesel couldn't be done the same way. Anyway, that is Larry T (66 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs . - Original Message - From: Robert Rentfro [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2008 10:15 PM Subject: [MBZ] What Should I Start Amassing? I'm at 190K miles. Oil usage is consistently at 1 qt per 650 miles or so. It's burning, not dripping or getting into the air cleaner housing. Smokes more now on acceleration and at idle. Suppose it's time to address it. What do you think I'll have to do? What should I start buying now from Rusty? Who has a good step by step guide they can send me? I think I'll have to get a third car first.. Whaddya think. Bob R '77 300D 190K ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] What Should I Start Amassing?
I'm at 190K miles. Oil usage is consistently at 1 qt per 650 miles or so. It's burning, not dripping or getting into the air cleaner housing. Smokes more now on acceleration and at idle. Suppose it's time to address it. What do you think I'll have to do? What should I start buying now from Rusty? Who has a good step by step guide they can send me? I think I'll have to get a third car first.. Whaddya think. Bob R '77 300D 190K ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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I'd try to find a known good engine, and swap it --- On Feb 16, 2008 9:15 PM, Robert Rentfro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm at 190K miles. Oil usage is consistently at 1 qt per 650 miles or so. It's burning, not dripping or getting into the air cleaner housing. Smokes more now on acceleration and at idle. Suppose it's time to address it. What do you think I'll have to do? What should I start buying now from Rusty? Who has a good step by step guide they can send me? I think I'll have to get a third car first.. Whaddya think. -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics. -Benjamin Disraeli and/or Mark Twain '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] What Should I Start Amassing?
i wouldn't do anything but drive it On Feb 16, 2008 10:18 PM, OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'd try to find a known good engine, and swap it --- On Feb 16, 2008 9:15 PM, Robert Rentfro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm at 190K miles. Oil usage is consistently at 1 qt per 650 miles or so. It's burning, not dripping or getting into the air cleaner housing. Smokes more now on acceleration and at idle. Suppose it's time to address it. What do you think I'll have to do? What should I start buying now from Rusty? Who has a good step by step guide they can send me? I think I'll have to get a third car first.. Whaddya think. -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics. -Benjamin Disraeli and/or Mark Twain '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] What Should I Start Amassing?
OK Don wrote: I'd try to find a known good engine, and swap it --- I'd check out the vacuum pump and crankcase breather/PCV first. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
