Re: [MBZ] low idle pulsating idle when engine(not ambient temp) is cold
I'm not burning any oil and I think it's pretty normal to see smoke at night on acceleration when illuminated by headlights behind you...smoke within reason, of course. If you can't see it during the day, then it's not much smoke. Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Christopher McCann wrote: Next morning, I start the car, need to depress the accelerator to get it to start (it was not cold out) and once started, if I left off the pedal, it would stall. After holding it at normal idle for a minute or so, it would idle at low speed, but not stall...unless I put it in gear. Once the engine is up to operating temp, it idles perfectly normally and there are no other problems... It now does this every time I start it when the engine is cold. Ambient temp has nothing to do with it. Any ideas as to what is going on? Thanks, Chris Chris and all, I, too, have just about the identical problem, and my valve are adjusted within specs. The compression on all five cylinders are good. The only thing I have noticed lately is that I seem to use more oil than I used to, about a quart every 1200 miles. Also, when I floor the accelerator I notice smoke in the rear view mirror lit be approaching headlights. I know Chris and I would really like to solve this problem. Thanks, Mike Netzky 83 300D 190,000 miles ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Christopher McCann, Squier Park, Kansas City, Missouri -2006 GSD, Anke -1985 300SD, 217K, Wulf -1982 300Dt, 117K, little blue klatter box -1971 Case 222 Hydrive, One Banger - Sponsored Link Try Netflix today! With plans starting at only $5.99 a month what are you waiting for? From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tue Nov 07 19:16:59 2006 Received: from web30001.mail.mud.yahoo.com ([209.191.69.18]) by server8.arterytc8.net with smtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GhWRO-0002ok-6a for mercedes@okiebenz.com; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 19:16:59 + Received: (qmail 13889 invoked by uid 60001); 7 Nov 2006 19:16:13 - Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-YMail-OSG: moP_LUMVM1nrNW0C58_kWwnI4WWAr6OfPWyim7ZnbrM0jJS.5U_Gf4fy4jSi8QGxFAyGNjs3hXNiRGiVIoLXkIHxIsYXluuoQn4j5PpKU.fOhHEmTIy6aCjYAyVvow9A6siF0zX5vW..am0- Received: from [24.123.111.98] by web30001.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 11:16:11 PST Date: Tue, 7 Nov 2006 11:16:11 -0800 (PST) From: Christopher McCann [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9.cp1 Subject: Re: [MBZ] low idle pulsating idle when engine(not ambient temp) is cold X-BeenThere: mercedes@okiebenz.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9.cp1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com List-Id: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes_okiebenz.com.okiebenz.com List-Unsubscribe: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: /pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com List-Post: mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 07 Nov 2006 19:16:59 - I have not. Good idea. I have the BERU upgraded plugs and relay...so if one is out, the others will still be staying on (for up to 3 minutes!) and would heat things up more quickly than the original glow plugs. Thanks! Chris David Brodbeck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Next morning, I start the car, need to depress the accelerator to get it to start (it was not cold out) and once started, if I left off the pedal, it would stall. After holding it at normal idle for a minute or so, it would idle at low speed, but not stall...unless I put it in gear. Once the engine is up to operating temp, it idles perfectly normally and there are no other problems... It now does this every time I start it when the engine is cold. Ambient temp has nothing to do with it. Any ideas as to what is going on? Have you checked for a bad glow plug? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Christopher McCann, Squier Park, Kansas City, Missouri -2006 GSD, Anke -1985 300SD, 217K, Wulf -1982 300Dt, 117K, little blue klatter box -1971 Case
Re: [MBZ] low idle pulsating idle when engine(not ambient temp) is cold
Christopher McCann wrote: this would be a sweet and easy fix. Now the dummy question. If I have a multi-meter, How do I check the glow plugs? The easiest way is to remove the black plastic cover on the fender and disconnect the plug that connects the glow plug wiring harness to the relay. Now select the ohms function on your meter, ground one lead to the engine block or battery negative terminal, and probe each pin on the plug with the other lead. You should read a low resistance for each one. (I forget the exact value, and the resistance of the test leads enters into it, but they should all be roughly equal.) If one comes up infinite, or with a very high resistance, either that plug is bad or it's become disconnected somehow.
Re: [MBZ] low idle pulsating idle when engine(not ambient temp) is cold
The resistance should be .6 ohms Jeff Zedic Toronto
Re: [MBZ] low idle pulsating idle when engine(not ambient temp) is cold
Jeff Zedic wrote: The resistance should be .6 ohms Good to know. Anyone measuring that should bear in mind that cheap multimeter test leads often add 2 or 3 ohms all on their own. Low resistance values are very hard to measure. (This is why the most accurate way to test glow plugs is with an ammeter.)
Re: [MBZ] low idle pulsating idle when engine(not ambient temp) is cold
excellent, will check and report back. Chris David Brodbeck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Christopher McCann wrote: this would be a sweet and easy fix. Now the dummy question. If I have a multi-meter, How do I check the glow plugs? The easiest way is to remove the black plastic cover on the fender and disconnect the plug that connects the glow plug wiring harness to the relay. Now select the ohms function on your meter, ground one lead to the engine block or battery negative terminal, and probe each pin on the plug with the other lead. You should read a low resistance for each one. (I forget the exact value, and the resistance of the test leads enters into it, but they should all be roughly equal.) If one comes up infinite, or with a very high resistance, either that plug is bad or it's become disconnected somehow. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Christopher McCann, Squier Park, Kansas City, Missouri -2006 GSD, Anke -1985 300SD, 217K, Wulf -1982 300Dt, 117K, little blue klatter box -1971 Case 222 Hydrive, One Banger - Check out the all-new Yahoo! Mail - Fire up a more powerful email and get things done faster. From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tue Nov 07 21:01:25 2006 Received: from wx-out-0506.google.com ([66.249.82.231]) by server8.arterytc8.net with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GhY4T-00079O-23 for mercedes@okiebenz.com; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 21:01:25 + Received: by wx-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id t11so1679439wxc for mercedes@okiebenz.com; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 13:00:40 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.70.29.7 with SMTP id c7mr7867917wxc.1162933240441; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 13:00:40 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.70.16.4 with HTTP; Tue, 7 Nov 2006 13:00:40 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 7 Nov 2006 16:00:40 -0500 From: Levi Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] MIME-Version: 1.0 References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9.cp1 Subject: Re: [MBZ] I'm back X-BeenThere: mercedes@okiebenz.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9.cp1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com List-Id: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes_okiebenz.com.okiebenz.com List-Unsubscribe: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: /pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com List-Post: mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 07 Nov 2006 21:01:25 - YAY I thought you were gone for good! (or bad as it were) (: Glad to see you've returned! Levi (: On 11/7/06, Marshall Booth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just took a walkabout! Marshall -- Marshall Booth Ph.D. Ass't Prof. (ret.) Univ of Pittsburgh School of Medicine [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] low idle pulsating idle when engine(not ambient temp) is cold
Christopher McCann wrote: So I drove the 1985 300SD for 300 miles the other day. No problems. Next morning, I start the car, need to depress the accelerator to get it to start (it was not cold out) and once started, if I left off the pedal, it would stall. After holding it at normal idle for a minute or so, it would idle at low speed, but not stall...unless I put it in gear. Once the engine is up to operating temp, it idles perfectly normally and there are no other problems... It now does this every time I start it when the engine is cold. Ambient temp has nothing to do with it. Any ideas as to what is going on? Thanks, Chris Chris and all, I, too, have just about the identical problem, and my valve are adjusted within specs. The compression on all five cylinders are good. The only thing I have noticed lately is that I seem to use more oil than I used to, about a quart every 1200 miles. Also, when I floor the accelerator I notice smoke in the rear view mirror lit be approaching headlights. I know Chris and I would really like to solve this problem. Thanks, Mike Netzky 83 300D 190,000 miles
Re: [MBZ] low idle pulsating idle when engine(not ambient temp) is cold
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Next morning, I start the car, need to depress the accelerator to get it to start (it was not cold out) and once started, if I left off the pedal, it would stall. After holding it at normal idle for a minute or so, it would idle at low speed, but not stall...unless I put it in gear. Once the engine is up to operating temp, it idles perfectly normally and there are no other problems... It now does this every time I start it when the engine is cold. Ambient temp has nothing to do with it. Any ideas as to what is going on? Have you checked for a bad glow plug?
