Re: [MBZ] used tranny question

2006-01-02 Thread JFreezn
In a message dated 1/2/2006 10:12:41 A.M. US Mountain Standard Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

I am  going to pick my newly aquired $ 300 tranny up.
Is there something I should  know to look for?
Hans,



Yes, unless a restraining strap has been installed, the torque converter is  
likely to fall out on your foot.  Or your helper's.  And when you  install the 
used trans, make absolutely sure the torque converter is properly  indexed on 
the front pump or physical damage to the front pump and/or torque  converter 
will occur.  This may be the most common cause of failure in  installing a MB 
(and many other makes) automatic transmission.
NOTE:
There is a dimension in the book that says if you lay a straight edge  across 
the front of the trans, the torque converter should be X distance  recessed.  
I think it is about 1/2 inch but be sure to confirm that  dimension.   
 
Since the torque converter is easily  removed, I would replace the  front 
seal, which is then exposed at the front of the case. Just as a matter of  
convenience vs the cost of doing it later if you should find that it  leaks.
 
Regards,  

Jim  Friesen
Phoenix AZ
79 300SD, 261 K miles 
98 ML 320, 139 K  miles



Re: [MBZ] used tranny question

2006-01-02 Thread Hans Neureiter
The deal on this tranny is it came out of a '84 car that had been rear-ended
at under 90k.
The guy had the 617.9xx engine for sale also. Sold ~ $ 600.
He tells me the car could have been fixed, but the owner settled for the
total-out and didn't want it. So now it's junk (can't title a car in Tex.
that has a "Junk Title").


On 1/2/06, V Layton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Best used trans story I have is the $150 "parts" car I got for that price
> BECAUSE of the "bad" transmission.  With a new hollow fluid screw, some
> related gaskets, and the two MISSING housing bolts and FLUID- I got it to
> work pretty good.  In fact, I sold it to a member for $100 and he had me
> install it in his car OVER 67,000 miles ago and it still works fine!  What
> a
> deal! (for him and me!)
>
> Vince
>
>
> >From: "Kaleb C. Striplin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >To: Mercedes Discussion List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Subject: Re: [MBZ] used tranny question
> >Date: Mon, 02 Jan 2006 12:55:34 -0600
> >
> >With trannies, when I get a car in that I have been able to drive and
> >verify, then I can call the tranny good for future use.  IF not, its
> >sort of a risk.
> >
> >Tom Hargrave wrote:
> >
> > > I agree with Kaleb.
> > >
> > > The clutches are wear items and just like brake pads and you can't
> tell
> > > their condition until the last bit of friction material breaks through
> >and
> > > you start slipping. Because of this, I've never bought a used
> >transmission -
> > > I've always had then rebuilt. But I also drive 50,000 + miles / year
> and
> >I
> > > rally can't take a change on a used transmission.
> > >
> > > Engines are another story. You can tell a lot with a wet / dry
> >compression
> > > test.
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Tom Hargrave
> > > 256-656-1924
> > > www.kegkits.com
> > >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > On Behalf Of Kaleb C. Striplin
> > > Sent: Monday, January 02, 2006 12:26 PM
> > > To: Mercedes Discussion List
> > > Subject: Re: [MBZ] used tranny question
> > >
> > > what do you mean?  Is there any way to tell if its good short of
> >installing
> > > it?  No.  Not unless you just go ahead and tear it down and inspect
> the
> > > clutches etc.
> > >
> > > Hans Neureiter wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >>I am going to pick my newly aquired $ 300 tranny up.
> > >>Is there something I should know to look for?
> > >>
> > >>--
> > >>Hans Neureiter, Houston, TX
> > >>'82 300SD, '95 E300D
> > >>___
> > >>http://www.striplin.net
> > >>For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/
> > >>For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >>
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> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK
> > >   89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D,
> > >   84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D,
> > >   76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net
> > >
> > > ___
> > > http://www.striplin.net
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> >used
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> > >
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> > >
> > >
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> > >
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> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >--
> >Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK
> >   89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D,
> >   84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D,
> >   76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250
> >http://www.striplin.net
> >
> >___
> >http://www.striplin.net
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> >For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
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'82 300SD, '95 E300D


Re: [MBZ] used tranny question

2006-01-02 Thread V Layton
Best used trans story I have is the $150 "parts" car I got for that price 
BECAUSE of the "bad" transmission.  With a new hollow fluid screw, some 
related gaskets, and the two MISSING housing bolts and FLUID- I got it to 
work pretty good.  In fact, I sold it to a member for $100 and he had me 
install it in his car OVER 67,000 miles ago and it still works fine!  What a 
deal! (for him and me!)


Vince



From: "Kaleb C. Striplin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Mercedes Discussion List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [MBZ] used tranny question
Date: Mon, 02 Jan 2006 12:55:34 -0600

With trannies, when I get a car in that I have been able to drive and
verify, then I can call the tranny good for future use.  IF not, its
sort of a risk.

Tom Hargrave wrote:

> I agree with Kaleb.
>
> The clutches are wear items and just like brake pads and you can't tell
> their condition until the last bit of friction material breaks through 
and
> you start slipping. Because of this, I've never bought a used 
transmission -
> I've always had then rebuilt. But I also drive 50,000 + miles / year and 
I

> rally can't take a change on a used transmission.
>
> Engines are another story. You can tell a lot with a wet / dry 
compression

> test.
>
> Thanks,
> Tom Hargrave
> 256-656-1924
> www.kegkits.com
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

> On Behalf Of Kaleb C. Striplin
> Sent: Monday, January 02, 2006 12:26 PM
> To: Mercedes Discussion List
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] used tranny question
>
> what do you mean?  Is there any way to tell if its good short of 
installing

> it?  No.  Not unless you just go ahead and tear it down and inspect the
> clutches etc.
>
> Hans Neureiter wrote:
>
>
>>I am going to pick my newly aquired $ 300 tranny up.
>>Is there something I should know to look for?
>>
>>--
>>Hans Neureiter, Houston, TX
>>'82 300SD, '95 E300D
>>___
>>http://www.striplin.net
>>For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/
>>For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>
>>To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
>>http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
>>
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK
>   89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D,
>   84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D,
>   76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net
>
> ___
> http://www.striplin.net
> For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For 
used

> parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
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>
>
> ___
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> For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
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>
>
>

--
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  89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D,
  84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D,
  76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250
http://www.striplin.net

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Re: [MBZ] used tranny question

2006-01-02 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
With trannies, when I get a car in that I have been able to drive and 
verify, then I can call the tranny good for future use.  IF not, its 
sort of a risk.


Tom Hargrave wrote:


I agree with Kaleb.

The clutches are wear items and just like brake pads and you can't tell
their condition until the last bit of friction material breaks through and
you start slipping. Because of this, I've never bought a used transmission -
I've always had then rebuilt. But I also drive 50,000 + miles / year and I
rally can't take a change on a used transmission.

Engines are another story. You can tell a lot with a wet / dry compression
test.

Thanks,
Tom Hargrave
256-656-1924
www.kegkits.com

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Kaleb C. Striplin
Sent: Monday, January 02, 2006 12:26 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] used tranny question

what do you mean?  Is there any way to tell if its good short of installing
it?  No.  Not unless you just go ahead and tear it down and inspect the
clutches etc.

Hans Neureiter wrote:



I am going to pick my newly aquired $ 300 tranny up.
Is there something I should know to look for?

--
Hans Neureiter, Houston, TX
'82 300SD, '95 E300D
___
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--
Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK
  89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D,
  84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D,
  76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net

___
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--
Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK
 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D,
 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D,
 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250
http://www.striplin.net



Re: [MBZ] used tranny question

2006-01-02 Thread Tom Hargrave
I agree with Kaleb.

The clutches are wear items and just like brake pads and you can't tell
their condition until the last bit of friction material breaks through and
you start slipping. Because of this, I've never bought a used transmission -
I've always had then rebuilt. But I also drive 50,000 + miles / year and I
rally can't take a change on a used transmission.

Engines are another story. You can tell a lot with a wet / dry compression
test.

Thanks,
Tom Hargrave
256-656-1924
www.kegkits.com

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Kaleb C. Striplin
Sent: Monday, January 02, 2006 12:26 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] used tranny question

what do you mean?  Is there any way to tell if its good short of installing
it?  No.  Not unless you just go ahead and tear it down and inspect the
clutches etc.

Hans Neureiter wrote:

> I am going to pick my newly aquired $ 300 tranny up.
> Is there something I should know to look for?
> 
> --
> Hans Neureiter, Houston, TX
> '82 300SD, '95 E300D
> ___
> http://www.striplin.net
> For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ 
> For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
> http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
> 
> 
> 

--
Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK
  89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D,
  84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D,
  76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net

___
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Re: [MBZ] used tranny question

2006-01-02 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
what do you mean?  Is there any way to tell if its good short of 
installing it?  No.  Not unless you just go ahead and tear it down and 
inspect the clutches etc.


Hans Neureiter wrote:


I am going to pick my newly aquired $ 300 tranny up.
Is there something I should know to look for?

--
Hans Neureiter, Houston, TX
'82 300SD, '95 E300D
___
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--
Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK
 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D,
 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D,
 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250
http://www.striplin.net



[MBZ] used tranny question

2006-01-02 Thread Hans Neureiter
I am going to pick my newly aquired $ 300 tranny up.
Is there something I should know to look for?

--
Hans Neureiter, Houston, TX
'82 300SD, '95 E300D