Re: [MBZ] ***SPAM*** Re: OT driving while stupid
I assume the bullet hit a major artery. Randy On 15/12/2022 7:27 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes wrote: There were some comments FWIW in another post about this incident that referred to a Glock, 32? maybe ( I know nothing about Glocks), that apparently was prone to firing when not intended due to no safety and being ready to fire, getting knocked or something. There might have been a report about the Glock and a spent casing in the car, and of course the bullet and the damaged groinal area. --FT Sent from iFōn On Dec 15, 2022, at 5:08 PM, greg via Mercedes wrote: I carried a Glock 19 daily for many years, and this is the first I'm hearing of a self-firing one. The only "failure" I'm aware of is the tendency to go full auto. That happened at the range once. But even then it was easy to control. If a trigger catches on any weapon it may fire. Even a pocket pistol requires a holster to be safe. Greg Semi-automatic. The bangers around here seem to favor 9mm or .45cal semi-automatic pistols, or whatever stolen firearms they can buy off the skreets. Commenters speculated this fine citizen had a Glock, which are prone to spontaneous discharge. In any case the gene 溺 pool was cleansed though no indication that he was a doting father --FT Sent from iFōn ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] ***SPAM*** Re: OT driving while stupid
On 2022-12-15 22:39, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes wrote: He was probably grabbing the gun while he was trying to turn the car with the other hand and like a dumbass stuck his finger in there to get ready to pop his target but shot off his “groin” before he could do the other guy. The most curious aspect is that it happened at 630AM. The bangers aren’t fond of early morning unless they are still up from a night of trappin yo. Now imagine doing that with a "glock switch" on the back and a 33rd magazine, and letting 8 rounds into your leg before you let go of the trigger. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] ***SPAM*** Re: OT driving while stupid
Also my guess is he hit his femoral artery and bled out quick. Blowing his c*ck off would be unpleasant for him but probably not fatal. On Thu, Dec 15, 2022, at 22:50, Allan Streib via Mercedes wrote: > Sounds like he won a Darwin award. > > On Thu, Dec 15, 2022, at 22:39, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes wrote: >> He was probably grabbing the gun while he was trying to turn the car >> with the other hand and like a dumbass stuck his finger in there to get >> ready to pop his target but shot off his “groin” before he could do the >> other guy. >> >> The most curious aspect is that it happened at 630AM. The bangers >> aren’t fond of early morning unless they are still up from a night of >> trappin yo. >> >> --FT >> Sent from iFōn >> >>> On Dec 15, 2022, at 9:45 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes >>> wrote: >>> >>> No holster is no bueno. The trigger IS the safety. Keep your booger hooks >>> off of the bang switch, no issues. Catch ANYTHING on the trigger (ie hoodie >>> string) it's going to go bang. The only modern firearm that has had issues >>> with unintentional discharge WITHOUT the trigger being operated is the Sig >>> Sauer P320. Those issues have been addressed. >>> >>> https://bearingarms.com/tomknighton/2021/10/30/milwaukee-police-report-issues-with-sig-p320s-discharging-n51542 >>> >>> >>> Rick > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] ***SPAM*** Re: OT driving while stupid
Sounds like he won a Darwin award. On Thu, Dec 15, 2022, at 22:39, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes wrote: > He was probably grabbing the gun while he was trying to turn the car > with the other hand and like a dumbass stuck his finger in there to get > ready to pop his target but shot off his “groin” before he could do the > other guy. > > The most curious aspect is that it happened at 630AM. The bangers > aren’t fond of early morning unless they are still up from a night of > trappin yo. > > --FT > Sent from iFōn > >> On Dec 15, 2022, at 9:45 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes >> wrote: >> >> No holster is no bueno. The trigger IS the safety. Keep your booger hooks >> off of the bang switch, no issues. Catch ANYTHING on the trigger (ie hoodie >> string) it's going to go bang. The only modern firearm that has had issues >> with unintentional discharge WITHOUT the trigger being operated is the Sig >> Sauer P320. Those issues have been addressed. >> >> https://bearingarms.com/tomknighton/2021/10/30/milwaukee-police-report-issues-with-sig-p320s-discharging-n51542 >> >> >> Rick ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] ***SPAM*** Re: OT driving while stupid
He was probably grabbing the gun while he was trying to turn the car with the other hand and like a dumbass stuck his finger in there to get ready to pop his target but shot off his “groin” before he could do the other guy. The most curious aspect is that it happened at 630AM. The bangers aren’t fond of early morning unless they are still up from a night of trappin yo. --FT Sent from iFōn > On Dec 15, 2022, at 9:45 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes > wrote: > > No holster is no bueno. The trigger IS the safety. Keep your booger hooks > off of the bang switch, no issues. Catch ANYTHING on the trigger (ie hoodie > string) it's going to go bang. The only modern firearm that has had issues > with unintentional discharge WITHOUT the trigger being operated is the Sig > Sauer P320. Those issues have been addressed. > > https://bearingarms.com/tomknighton/2021/10/30/milwaukee-police-report-issues-with-sig-p320s-discharging-n51542 > > > Rick > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] ***SPAM*** Re: OT driving while stupid
No holster is no bueno. The trigger IS the safety. Keep your booger hooks off of the bang switch, no issues. Catch ANYTHING on the trigger (ie hoodie string) it's going to go bang. The only modern firearm that has had issues with unintentional discharge WITHOUT the trigger being operated is the Sig Sauer P320. Those issues have been addressed. https://bearingarms.com/tomknighton/2021/10/30/milwaukee-police-report-issues-with-sig-p320s-discharging-n51542 Rick ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] ***SPAM*** Re: OT driving while stupid
There were some comments FWIW in another post about this incident that referred to a Glock, 32? maybe ( I know nothing about Glocks), that apparently was prone to firing when not intended due to no safety and being ready to fire, getting knocked or something. There might have been a report about the Glock and a spent casing in the car, and of course the bullet and the damaged groinal area. --FT Sent from iFōn > On Dec 15, 2022, at 5:08 PM, greg via Mercedes wrote: > > I carried a Glock 19 daily for many years, and this is the first I'm > hearing of a self-firing one. The only "failure" I'm aware of is the > tendency to go full auto. That happened at the range once. But even then > it was easy to control. > > If a trigger catches on any weapon it may fire. Even a pocket pistol > requires a holster to be safe. > > Greg > > >> Semi-automatic. >> >> The bangers around here seem to favor 9mm or .45cal semi-automatic >> pistols, or whatever stolen firearms they can buy off the skreets. >> Commenters speculated this fine citizen had a Glock, which are prone to >> spontaneous discharge. >> >> In any case the gene 溺 pool was cleansed though no indication that he >> was a doting father >> >> --FT >> Sent from iFōn >> > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] ***SPAM*** Re: OT driving while stupid
On 2022-12-15 17:17, Allan Streib via Mercedes wrote: Hadn't heard that they could go "full auto." That would be a surprise I imagine. Hard to imagine unless you never clean it and the firing pin gets stuck, making it slamfire when the action closes. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] ***SPAM*** Re: OT driving while stupid
> Hadn't heard that they could go "full auto." That would be a surprise I > imagine. Semi-auto guns have MORE parts in them to ensure that they don't fire again when they close back up, unless the trigger is cycled again. But if something's broken... No worse surprise than finding a semi-auto pistol whose trigger is actually a "magazine empty" switch! Pull it once and then hang on until the magazine is empty. Yikes. I've heard of it, but never experienced it. > I don't own any pistols -- my understanding is that Glocks don't have a > traditional safety "switch" as such, but they do have mechanisms to prevent > firing other than by a deliberate trigger pull. Indeed. The great unwashed, upon hearing that a gun (like a revolver, or a Glock) doesn't have a safety switch immediately assumes "OH MY GOD IT'S NOT SAFE!" No, that's not a logical conclusion. Magical thinking, it's everywhere. A gun without a separate can-point-to-it safety lever is no less safe than a car without 'go-fast' stripes on it is not fast. Its safety, or speed, is NOT INHERENTLY RELATED to these things. But rather, other things. Glocks have something like three different mechanisms in them to ensure that unless you pull the trigger they won't fire. Revolvers have internal design features to ensure the same thing. But, being mere machines, they can be broken so that they're not working as intended. Less safe than they're supposed to be. Any gun that fires when the trigger is not pulled is not safe. And is probably broken. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] ***SPAM*** Re: OT driving while stupid
Hadn't heard that they could go "full auto." That would be a surprise I imagine. I don't own any pistols -- my understanding is that Glocks don't have a traditional safety "switch" as such, but they do have mechanisms to prevent firing other than by a deliberate trigger pull. On Thu, Dec 15, 2022, at 17:07, greg via Mercedes wrote: > I carried a Glock 19 daily for many years, and this is the first I'm > hearing of a self-firing one. The only "failure" I'm aware of is the > tendency to go full auto. That happened at the range once. But even then > it was easy to control. > > If a trigger catches on any weapon it may fire. Even a pocket pistol > requires a holster to be safe. > > Greg > > >> Semi-automatic. >> >> The bangers around here seem to favor 9mm or .45cal semi-automatic >> pistols, or whatever stolen firearms they can buy off the skreets. >> Commenters speculated this fine citizen had a Glock, which are prone to >> spontaneous discharge. >> >> In any case the gene 🧬 pool was cleansed though no indication that he >> was a doting father >> >> --FT >> Sent from iFÅn >> > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
