Re: [MBZ] 300SD hard to start

2008-11-24 Thread Hans Neureiter
You assumed correctly. It is a transplant from a 116 I got from Mr.
Striplin.

On 11/22/08, Chuck Landenberger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hans,

 Diesel Purge can't hurt  I would also try the tried and true Italian
 Tune-up..

 By NEW, I assume you mean new to your SD, but not new-new!

 Take care,

 Chuck


 On Nov 22, 2008, at 7:44 AM, Hans Neureiter wrote:

  Ever since I have that NEW engine put in my car, I noticed that it is
 hard
 starting even in warm weather.
 It has to crank quite a bit. Two or three pre-glows help. It fires
 instantly, but does not stay running at first.
 Lots of smoke for may be a minute. Than it clears out and runs smooth.
 Starts quick when engine is warm.
 Engine smokes some on hard acceleration.
 All 5 glow plugs check good (0.6 Ohm). Fuel mileage is 22 - 24 MPG. 0-100
 KPH  20 sec.
 No fuel leaks visible at the primer pump or anywhere else.
 Blow-by is normal.
 Would a diesel purge help?
 --
 Hans Neureiter, Houston, TX
 '82 300SD, '95 E300D
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Re: [MBZ] 300SD hard to start

2008-11-22 Thread Jim Cathey

It has to crank quite a bit. Two or three pre-glows help. It fires
instantly, but does not stay running at first.


If you hand-prime it first, does it make any difference?

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Re: [MBZ] 300SD hard to start

2008-11-22 Thread Loren Faeth

Adchust der falfes   Sounds like lack of valve clearance.


At 08:44 AM 11/22/2008, you wrote:

Ever since I have that NEW engine put in my car, I noticed that it is hard
starting even in warm weather.
It has to crank quite a bit. Two or three pre-glows help. It fires
instantly, but does not stay running at first.
Lots of smoke for may be a minute. Than it clears out and runs smooth.
Starts quick when engine is warm.
Engine smokes some on hard acceleration.
All 5 glow plugs check good (0.6 Ohm). Fuel mileage is 22 - 24 MPG. 0-100
KPH  20 sec.
No fuel leaks visible at the primer pump or anywhere else.
Blow-by is normal.
Would a diesel purge help?
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'82 300SD, '95 E300D
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Re: [MBZ] 300SD hard to start

2008-11-22 Thread Jim Cathey

Adchust der falfes   Sounds like lack of valve clearance.


Der, or die?  I only ask because they seem to need constant
attention in order to fulfill their purpose.  :-)

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Re: [MBZ] 300SD hard to start

2008-11-22 Thread Craig McCluskey
On Sat, 22 Nov 2008 07:31:47 -0800 Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

  Adchust der falfes   Sounds like lack of valve clearance.
 
 Der, or die?  I only ask because they seem to need constant
 attention in order to fulfill their purpose.  :-)

Just from the German aspect, it would be die, because falfes is plural. If
it were der falfe or das falfe, it would be die falfes.

The allusion to the distaff side, however, seems fitting.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] 300SD hard to start

2008-11-22 Thread Hans Neureiter
It's Die (one would be Das).
I need to do that - adchust falfes.
No. I did never hand prime the thing. Why?.


On 11/22/08, Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Adchust der falfes   Sounds like lack of valve clearance.


 Der, or die?  I only ask because they seem to need constant
 attention in order to fulfill their purpose.  :-)

 -- Jim



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Re: [MBZ] 300SD hard to start

2008-11-22 Thread Peter Frederick
Check for bad hoses on the suction side of the lift pump.  Watch the  
clear fuel filter while it's running -- a stream of small bubbles  
coming in and going out of the filter is bad -- indicates a suction  
side leak.  If you have the original German hoses with fabric cover,  
replace them with standard fuel line, they are surely leaking.


You are getting air into the IP, and it will be VERY hard to start  
from lack of fuel in the pressure chambers on start up, where the  
pressure leaks off badly anyway.


It's also possible to have leaks at the pressure valve holder seals  
on the IP -- this allows fuel to leak out on top of the pump while  
running, and air to leak into the feed chamber while stopped, hence  
air in the IP when you try to start.


If you get copious white smoke while cranking and lots of smoke cold,  
adjust the valves, you have low compression.


Peter

On Nov 22, 2008, at 9:31 AM, Jim Cathey wrote:


Adchust der falfes   Sounds like lack of valve clearance.


Der, or die?  I only ask because they seem to need constant
attention in order to fulfill their purpose.  :-)

-- Jim



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Re: [MBZ] 300SD hard to start

2008-11-22 Thread Hans Neureiter
Thank you all. I unlocked the priming pump and diesel is pouring out the top
when I stroke it.
So the verdict is in: a new priming pump and a falfes adjust job.


On 11/22/08, Peter Frederick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Check for bad hoses on the suction side of the lift pump.  Watch the clear
 fuel filter while it's running -- a stream of small bubbles coming in and
 going out of the filter is bad -- indicates a suction side leak.  If you
 have the original German hoses with fabric cover, replace them with standard
 fuel line, they are surely leaking.

 You are getting air into the IP, and it will be VERY hard to start from
 lack of fuel in the pressure chambers on start up, where the pressure leaks
 off badly anyway.

 It's also possible to have leaks at the pressure valve holder seals on the
 IP -- this allows fuel to leak out on top of the pump while running, and air
 to leak into the feed chamber while stopped, hence air in the IP when you
 try to start.

 If you get copious white smoke while cranking and lots of smoke cold,
 adjust the valves, you have low compression.

 Peter

 On Nov 22, 2008, at 9:31 AM, Jim Cathey wrote:

  Adchust der falfes   Sounds like lack of valve clearance.


 Der, or die?  I only ask because they seem to need constant
 attention in order to fulfill their purpose.  :-)

 -- Jim



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Re: [MBZ] 300SD hard to start

2008-11-22 Thread Chuck Landenberger

Hans,

Diesel Purge can't hurt  I would also try the tried and true  
Italian Tune-up..


By NEW, I assume you mean new to your SD, but not new-new!

Take care,

Chuck


On Nov 22, 2008, at 7:44 AM, Hans Neureiter wrote:

Ever since I have that NEW engine put in my car, I noticed that  
it is hard

starting even in warm weather.
It has to crank quite a bit. Two or three pre-glows help. It fires
instantly, but does not stay running at first.
Lots of smoke for may be a minute. Than it clears out and runs smooth.
Starts quick when engine is warm.
Engine smokes some on hard acceleration.
All 5 glow plugs check good (0.6 Ohm). Fuel mileage is 22 - 24 MPG.  
0-100

KPH  20 sec.
No fuel leaks visible at the primer pump or anywhere else.
Blow-by is normal.
Would a diesel purge help?
--
Hans Neureiter, Houston, TX
'82 300SD, '95 E300D
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