Re: [MBZ] Car Data

[archer75--- via Mercedes]

Thanks, Fred.
Gerry
~~
> Gerry.
> From the Haynes manual:-
> 83 300D and 240D ('82 also)
> 15x2.5 rt/ge
> 50  2.5 vi/ws
> 15  2.5 rt/sw
> 15R2.5 rt/gn
> 30  2.5 rt
> 30  2.5 rt
> P300.75   gn/ws
> 
> YMMV.
> Fred.
> 
> 
> From: Mercedes  on behalf of archer75--- via 
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> Sent: 25 February 2016 18:35
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> Cc: arche...@embarqmail.com
> Subject: [MBZ] Car Data
> 
> Tom Savage wrote:
> > > You put in your VIN and it will give you the build sheet data, everything 
> > > on the car.  I did that with the ML we just bought, the dealer guys were 
> > > all mystified, "Where did you get all that?"  I found the key to the 
> > > secret safe and they were all noodgie about it.
> 
> > You can access the data card information and more for free through the epc
> > at http://epc.startekinfo.com/epc/home.jsp
> > They'll really be impressed when you go to buy parts and have the shopping
> > list printed out.
> ~
> Startecinfo only goes back to 1994 and I need the wiring colors for an '83 
> 300D ignition switch. Does anyone know where I can find it?
> Thanks,
> Gerry
> '83 300D
> '83 240D
> '08 "Car which name shall not be spoken"
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Re: [MBZ] Car Data

[archer75--- via Mercedes]

Thanks, Max.
I had a Merz wiring manual but haven't been able to find it. It may have been 
mistakenly thrown out.
Gerry

Meade Dillon wrote:
> CD version is pretty awful.  Take all of this with a grain of salt.
> From the CD electrical section, looks like:
> 
> Terminal - Color / stripe
> 15 - red / black
> 15 - BU / red (?? if only one Term. 15, use the red/black wire)
> 15x - red / yellow
> 15r - green / red
> 30 - red
> 30 - red
> 50 - violet / white
> ?P38? - green / white
> -
> Max
> Charleston SC
> 
> On Thu, Feb 25, 2016 at 1:56 PM, Meade Dillon  wrote:

> > Gerry,
> > I've got a paper copy of the 123 body manual that may have that, I'll take 
> > a look tonight when I get home from work.
> >
Don't you have the CD version of the manual?  Let me see what's in that...
> > Max
> > Charleston SC
> >
 archer75 wrote:
> >> Startecinfo only goes back to 1994 and I need the wiring colors for an
> >> '83 300D ignition switch. Does anyone know where I can find it?
> >> Thanks,
> >> Gerry
> >> '83 300D
> >> '83 240D
> >> '08 "Car which name shall not be spoken"


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Re: [MBZ] Car Data

[Fred Moir via Mercedes]

Gerry.
>From the Haynes manual:-
83 300D and 240D ('82 also)
15x2.5 rt/ge
50  2.5 vi/ws
15  2.5 rt/sw
15R2.5 rt/gn
30  2.5 rt
30  2.5 rt
P300.75   gn/ws

YMMV.
Fred.


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Subject: [MBZ] Car Data

Tom Savage wrote:
> > You put in your VIN and it will give you the build sheet data, everything 
> > on the car.  I did that with the ML we just bought, the dealer guys were 
> > all mystified, "Where did you get all that?"  I found the key to the secret 
> > safe and they were all noodgie about it.

> You can access the data card information and more for free through the epc
> at http://epc.startekinfo.com/epc/home.jsp
> They'll really be impressed when you go to buy parts and have the shopping
> list printed out.
~
Startecinfo only goes back to 1994 and I need the wiring colors for an '83 300D 
ignition switch. Does anyone know where I can find it?
Thanks,
Gerry
'83 300D
'83 240D
'08 "Car which name shall not be spoken"

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Re: [MBZ] Car Data

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

CD version is pretty awful.  Take all of this with a grain of salt.

>From the CD electrical section, looks like:

Terminal - Color / stripe
15 - red / black
15 - BU / red (?? if only one Term. 15, use the red/black wire)
15x - red / yellow
15r - green / red
30 - red
30 - red
50 - violet / white
?P38? - green / white



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On Thu, Feb 25, 2016 at 1:56 PM, Meade Dillon  wrote:

> Gerry,
>
> I've got a paper copy of the 123 body manual that may have that, I'll take
> a look tonight when I get home from work.
>
> Don't you have the CD version of the manual?  Let me see what's in that...
>
>
> -
> Max
> Charleston SC
>
> On Thu, Feb 25, 2016 at 1:35 PM, archer75--- via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> Startecinfo only goes back to 1994 and I need the wiring colors for an
>> '83 300D ignition switch. Does anyone know where I can find it?
>> Thanks,
>> Gerry
>> '83 300D
>> '83 240D
>> '08 "Car which name shall not be spoken"
>>
>>
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Re: [MBZ] Car Data

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

Gerry,

I've got a paper copy of the 123 body manual that may have that, I'll take
a look tonight when I get home from work.

Don't you have the CD version of the manual?  Let me see what's in that...


-
Max
Charleston SC

On Thu, Feb 25, 2016 at 1:35 PM, archer75--- via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

>
> Startecinfo only goes back to 1994 and I need the wiring colors for an '83
> 300D ignition switch. Does anyone know where I can find it?
> Thanks,
> Gerry
> '83 300D
> '83 240D
> '08 "Car which name shall not be spoken"
>
>
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Re: [MBZ] Car Data

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

For whatever reason, I've never been able to get the US version to work.  I've 
tried it on different computers, with different credit cards, etc. and never 
had it work.

I've probably been banned.

Nearly everything in the online EPC can be found elsewhere if you look hard 
enough.  I have a DAS diagnostic system, so the EPC and WIS is a part of it, so 
it's a moot point for me.

Dan




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 wrote:
 
 On Mar 9, 2015 8:43 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com
 wrote:
 
 I looked at that the other day and it wanted some sort of paid
 subscription. Is that so?
 
 
 The global version carries a nominal subscription fee, but the version
 covering  US models only is free. It is only available in the US, and a
 credit card from an American bank is apparently sufficient proof that you
 are not French.
 
 Tom
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Re: [MBZ] Car Data

[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

I'm using both Vista and Windows 7, at home (work blocks the Java connection to 
servers not on a white list, I think).  Need to have current Java installed and 
set up correctly.  Mac is not supported.

Sometimes a Java update will kill it until the EPC developers catch up, may 
take a month or longer.  Choice is to roll back Java or do without EPC.
-- 
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'95 E300

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mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
For whatever reason, I've never been able to get the US version to
work.  I've tried it on different computers, with different credit
cards, etc. and never had it work.



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Re: [MBZ] Car Data

[Rich Thomas via Mercedes]

You put in your VIN and it will give you the build sheet data, 
everything on the car.  I did that with the ML we just bought, the 
dealer guys were all mystified, Where did you get all that?  I found 
the key to the secret safe and they were all noodgie about it.


--R



On 3/9/15 3:39 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:

Dan, what sort of  questions does this website address?

On Mon, Mar 9, 2015 at 3:22 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
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Now available without using the sketchy Russian web sites:

http://mercedes-benz-teile.info

Dan

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Re: [MBZ] Car Data

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Dan, what sort of  questions does this website address?

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 Now available without using the sketchy Russian web sites:

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 Dan

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Re: [MBZ] Car Data

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Benzworld.org http://benzworld.org/

Dan


 On Mar 9, 2015, at 3:47 PM, Meade Dillon dillonm...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Cool, thanks!
 
 How do you learn of all these MB websites you've been posting of late?
 
 -Max
 
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 mercedes@okiebenz.com mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 Now available without using the sketchy Russian web sites:
 
 http://mercedes-benz-teile.info http://mercedes-benz-teile.info/
 
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Re: [MBZ] Car Data

[Curly McLain via Mercedes]

Now available without using the sketchy Russian web sites:

http://mercedes-benz-teile.info

Dan


Do you know what year it starts working?  I get No Datacard 
Available for 1966.   That is the only number I have memorized.


I remember the serial number of my BMW and my BMWMOA member number 
are very close.  So close I have to look and verify each time.


It does not like the 1980 240D either.

I'll try the 81 240D when i look up the VIN.  It is a WDB  not a 123.123.10

Maybe it does not like the typ number, and only works with WDB VIN 
numbers.  That would leave out a lot of grey market cars like the 
230TE wagon we had.


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Re: [MBZ] Car Data

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On Mon, 09 Mar 2015 15:22:50 -0400 Dan Penoff via Mercedes
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 Now available without using the sketchy Russian web sites:
 
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How do you know that isn't a sketchy Russian web site?


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Car Data

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

Cool, thanks!

How do you learn of all these MB websites you've been posting of late?

-Max

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Re: [MBZ] Car Data

[Tom Savage via Mercedes]

On Mar 9, 2015 3:51 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com
wrote:

 You put in your VIN and it will give you the build sheet data, everything
on the car.  I did that with the ML we just bought, the dealer guys were
all mystified, Where did you get all that?  I found the key to the secret
safe and they were all noodgie about it.

You can access the data card information and more for free through the epc
at http://epc.startekinfo.com/epc/home.jsp

They'll really be impressed when you go to buy parts and have the shopping
list printed out.

Tom
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Re: [MBZ] Car Data

[Rich Thomas via Mercedes]

I looked at that the other day and it wanted some sort of paid subscription. Is 
that so?

--R (sent from my miniPad)

On Mar 9, 2015, at 9:37 PM, Tom Savage tesav...@gmail.com wrote:


On Mar 9, 2015 3:51 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com 
wrote:

 You put in your VIN and it will give you the build sheet data, everything on 
 the car.  I did that with the ML we just bought, the dealer guys were all 
 mystified, Where did you get all that?  I found the key to the secret safe 
 and they were all noodgie about it.

You can access the data card information and more for free through the epc at 
http://epc.startekinfo.com/epc/home.jsp

They'll really be impressed when you go to buy parts and have the shopping list 
printed out.

Tom
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Re: [MBZ] Car Data

[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

No.
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On March 9, 2015 9:43:13 PM EDT, Rich Thomas via Mercedes 
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
I looked at that the other day and it wanted some sort of paid
subscription. Is that so?

--R (sent from my miniPad)

On Mar 9, 2015, at 9:37 PM, Tom Savage tesav...@gmail.com wrote:

You can access the data card information and more for free through the
epc at http://epc.startekinfo.com/epc/home.jsp



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Re: [MBZ] Car Data

[Tom Savage via Mercedes]

On Mar 9, 2015 8:43 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com
wrote:

 I looked at that the other day and it wanted some sort of paid
subscription. Is that so?


The global version carries a nominal subscription fee, but the version
covering  US models only is free. It is only available in the US, and a
credit card from an American bank is apparently sufficient proof that you
are not French.

Tom
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