Re: [MBZ] Chain saws
If you are going to buy a refurbished saw, it might be wise to use it lots quickly in order to establish that it is a good one (while you have the warranty in place). Randy On 07/03/2023 6:20 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote: That’s a heck of a deal for factory refurbished and warrantied. -D On Mar 7, 2023, at 7:18 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote: Thats a great price. I paid that for my 445, 15 years ago. I'm tempted to grab one at that price. I've had good luck with refurbished stuff. Often the "refurb" is really re-packaging. Box got wet or stabbed by a fork truck, can't be sold as new... -Curt On Tuesday, March 7, 2023 at 06:46:00 PM EST, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote: It appears Husqvarna sells certified refurbished on ebay for some good savings over retail. Anybody have any thoughts or experience with this? https://www.ebay.com/itm/155007340040?epid=27052143816=item2417284e08:g:Fl4AAOSw2eVii8EL#rwid On 3/3/2023 2:39 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes wrote: Or just by a Stihl from a dealer. Yep. Echo and Husqvarna are very good too. Rick ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Chain saws
The 450 and 445 are the only two saws I would consider. Anything else is a toy saw. For a trimming saw I'm going electric, never going back to a gas saw. They're lighter, don't vibrate as bad, quieter and safer because the chain stops a lot more quickly when you let go of the trigger. We've got this little guy: https://www.harborfreight.com/lawn-garden/outdoor-power-tools/chainsaws-chippers/cordless-chainsaws/20v-cordless-10-in-chainsaw-tool-only-64940.html It's cut several cords of wood. I do want to get a 6ah battery for it, I don't know how big the one we've got is, 3ah maybe. I still have work in me when the battery quits, not a lot but enough to keep going a little longer. -Curt On Tuesday, March 7, 2023 at 07:27:15 PM EST, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote: If you look at their store, they have a bunch of different models available if you wanted a smaller one. I just ordered one so will see how it turns out. On 3/7/2023 6:18 PM, Curt Raymond wrote: > Thats a great price. I paid that for my 445, 15 years ago. > > I'm tempted to grab one at that price. > > I've had good luck with refurbished stuff. Often the "refurb" is really > re-packaging. Box got wet or stabbed by a fork truck, can't be sold as new... > > -Curt > > On Tuesday, March 7, 2023 at 06:46:00 PM EST, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes > wrote: > > > > > > It appears Husqvarna sells certified refurbished on ebay for some good > savings over retail. Anybody have any thoughts or experience with this? > > https://www.ebay.com/itm/155007340040?epid=27052143816=item2417284e08:g:Fl4AAOSw2eVii8EL#rwid > > On 3/3/2023 2:39 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes wrote: >>> Or just by a Stihl from a dealer. >> Yep. Echo and Husqvarna are very good too. >> >> >> Rick >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Chain saws
If you look at their store, they have a bunch of different models available if you wanted a smaller one. I just ordered one so will see how it turns out. On 3/7/2023 6:18 PM, Curt Raymond wrote: Thats a great price. I paid that for my 445, 15 years ago. I'm tempted to grab one at that price. I've had good luck with refurbished stuff. Often the "refurb" is really re-packaging. Box got wet or stabbed by a fork truck, can't be sold as new... -Curt On Tuesday, March 7, 2023 at 06:46:00 PM EST, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote: It appears Husqvarna sells certified refurbished on ebay for some good savings over retail. Anybody have any thoughts or experience with this? https://www.ebay.com/itm/155007340040?epid=27052143816=item2417284e08:g:Fl4AAOSw2eVii8EL#rwid On 3/3/2023 2:39 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes wrote: Or just by a Stihl from a dealer. Yep. Echo and Husqvarna are very good too. Rick ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Chain saws
They have some good deals there --FT Sent from iFōn > On Mar 7, 2023, at 7:19 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes > wrote: > > Thats a great price. I paid that for my 445, 15 years ago. > > I'm tempted to grab one at that price. > > I've had good luck with refurbished stuff. Often the "refurb" is really > re-packaging. Box got wet or stabbed by a fork truck, can't be sold as new... > > -Curt > > On Tuesday, March 7, 2023 at 06:46:00 PM EST, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes > wrote: > > > > > > It appears Husqvarna sells certified refurbished on ebay for some good > savings over retail. Anybody have any thoughts or experience with this? > > https://www.ebay.com/itm/155007340040?epid=27052143816=item2417284e08:g:Fl4AAOSw2eVii8EL#rwid > > On 3/3/2023 2:39 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes wrote: >>> Or just by a Stihl from a dealer. >> Yep. Echo and Husqvarna are very good too. >> >> >> Rick >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > >> > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Chain saws
That’s a heck of a deal for factory refurbished and warrantied. -D > On Mar 7, 2023, at 7:18 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes > wrote: > > Thats a great price. I paid that for my 445, 15 years ago. > > I'm tempted to grab one at that price. > > I've had good luck with refurbished stuff. Often the "refurb" is really > re-packaging. Box got wet or stabbed by a fork truck, can't be sold as new... > > -Curt > > On Tuesday, March 7, 2023 at 06:46:00 PM EST, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes > wrote: > > > > > > It appears Husqvarna sells certified refurbished on ebay for some good > savings over retail. Anybody have any thoughts or experience with this? > > https://www.ebay.com/itm/155007340040?epid=27052143816=item2417284e08:g:Fl4AAOSw2eVii8EL#rwid > > On 3/3/2023 2:39 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes wrote: >>> Or just by a Stihl from a dealer. >> Yep. Echo and Husqvarna are very good too. >> >> >> Rick >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > >> > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Chain saws
Thats a great price. I paid that for my 445, 15 years ago. I'm tempted to grab one at that price. I've had good luck with refurbished stuff. Often the "refurb" is really re-packaging. Box got wet or stabbed by a fork truck, can't be sold as new... -Curt On Tuesday, March 7, 2023 at 06:46:00 PM EST, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote: It appears Husqvarna sells certified refurbished on ebay for some good savings over retail. Anybody have any thoughts or experience with this? https://www.ebay.com/itm/155007340040?epid=27052143816=item2417284e08:g:Fl4AAOSw2eVii8EL#rwid On 3/3/2023 2:39 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes wrote: >> Or just by a Stihl from a dealer. > Yep. Echo and Husqvarna are very good too. > > > Rick > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Chain saws
It appears Husqvarna sells certified refurbished on ebay for some good savings over retail. Anybody have any thoughts or experience with this? https://www.ebay.com/itm/155007340040?epid=27052143816=item2417284e08:g:Fl4AAOSw2eVii8EL#rwid On 3/3/2023 2:39 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes wrote: Or just by a Stihl from a dealer. Yep. Echo and Husqvarna are very good too. Rick ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Chain saws
My wood guy gave up on Stihl after he repeatedly rebuilt one. He's got some red saw now, I can't remember the brand. I've got an '80s vintage Echo at camp, grand old saw but heavy and smoky compared to my Husky. Curt Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android On Fri, Mar 3, 2023 at 3:44 PM, Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes wrote: I don’t know, I just know that I have a friend who owns a lot of acres and cuts down a lot of trees and has a sawmill told me to buy a Stihl so that’s what I bought. On the other hand, I hired a tree guy to take down some big trees last year and his big chainsaws were Husqvarnas. Sent from my iPhone > On Mar 3, 2023, at 3:39 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes > wrote: > > What do you think of Echo vs. Stihl? > >> On Fri, Mar 3, 2023, at 15:25, Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes wrote: >> Or just by a Stihl from a dealer. >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> On Mar 3, 2023, at 2:49 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes wrote: >>> >>> I am uncertain about this so take some of it with a grain of salt. >>> I think if you are going to buy a Husky these days, you should probably buy >>> the Rancher as Curt suggests. I think there was some sort of merger between >>> Husky and Poulan a few years back and the lower level Husky's may now be >>> just orange Poulans. >>> >>> Randy >>> On 02/03/2023 8:38 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote: Probably as long as you stick with a good model. For a homeowner the 445 or 450 are the way to go. Top of the homeowner line and bottom of the pro line respectively. For either of them a semi-chisel chain is a must. Both will come with a safety chain, those suck. I can't honestly see the difference when looking at them but I know my 445 cuts a helluva lot better with a semi-chisel chain. 450 might handle a full chisel chain... Haven't you been burned at box stores before? I'm thinking it was some kind of appliances. -Curt On Thursday, March 2, 2023 at 08:12:46 PM EST, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote: I’m now on the fence about screwing with the poulan pro or getting a new one. Spring is almost here and I need to do some work. Are the Husqvarnas at lowes OK? >>> >>> >>> ___ >>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>> >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>> >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>> >> >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Chain saws
True, but my mower was rarely used from maybe November to March annually, so it did have storage or downtime that was significant. -D > On Mar 3, 2023, at 3:46 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes > wrote: > > Let me suggest that the advantage the mowers have is that they are used > regularly. If you ran your chainsaw or generator for significant time every > week, it likely wouldn't cause much trouble either. I have had a Troy-Bilt > mower with a Tecumseh engine (if my memory is correct) for probably 15 years > and have done nothing but change the oil periodically and sharpen the blade > or put a new one on it a couple of times - also a couple of air filters. It > always starts and has never caused problems after sitting in the shed through > the winters. The cold here probably helps to prevent issues with stale gas in > winter. > > Randy > > > On 03/03/2023 3:15 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote: >> It’s purchases like this where you have to toss “frugal” out the window and >> buy for quality. It’s far cheaper in the long run, as we all know too well. >> >> Like a Honda walk behind mower I bought new some years back from the local >> Honda power equipment dealer in the farm town east of me. Yeah, I paid more >> for it that any number of “name brand” mowers that I could have gotten at a >> big box store, but in the 8-9 years I owned it I never had an issue with it, >> it ALWAYS started on the first pull, and other than annual oil changes and a >> spark plug every 2 years or so, it was a fantastic piece of equipment. >> >> I called the dealer 3-4 years into ownership and asked if I could bring it >> in for service. “What for? Isn’t it working?” >> >> Quit being a cheap ass, Kaleb. Buy a quality piece of equipment and be done >> with it. >> >> I rest my case. >> >> -D >> >>> On Mar 3, 2023, at 2:08 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes >>> wrote: >>> >>> Because professional saws are used and abused. >>> If you can find a pro saw that has seen occasionally homeowner/farm use, go >>> for it. Otherwise buy a new one. >>> >>> Buying a used professional chainsaw would be like buying a car that was a >>> rental car for a decade. >>> >>> >>> Rick >>> >>> From: mercedes@okiebenz.com >>> Sent: March 3, 2023 2:48 PM >>> To: mercedes@okiebenz.com >>> Reply-to: mercedes@okiebenz.com >>> Cc: macj...@aol.com >>> Subject: [MBZ] Chain saws >>> >>> Folks, >>> >>> Most of us agree that Stihl chainsaws are the best so if you are feeling >>> cheap and need a saw, why not just find a used decent Stihl for 1/3 or 1/2 >>> of new price. >>> >>> That’s why I didn’t buy a brand new 2002 e320 hovercraft wagon for $64k >>> >>> Maybe I am just a high wing kind of guy, but I have no love of a Cherokee >>> 140 based on my own experiences of flying one and riding in one. >>> >>> Xx rick >>> > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Chain saws
Let me suggest that the advantage the mowers have is that they are used regularly. If you ran your chainsaw or generator for significant time every week, it likely wouldn't cause much trouble either. I have had a Troy-Bilt mower with a Tecumseh engine (if my memory is correct) for probably 15 years and have done nothing but change the oil periodically and sharpen the blade or put a new one on it a couple of times - also a couple of air filters. It always starts and has never caused problems after sitting in the shed through the winters. The cold here probably helps to prevent issues with stale gas in winter. Randy On 03/03/2023 3:15 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote: It’s purchases like this where you have to toss “frugal” out the window and buy for quality. It’s far cheaper in the long run, as we all know too well. Like a Honda walk behind mower I bought new some years back from the local Honda power equipment dealer in the farm town east of me. Yeah, I paid more for it that any number of “name brand” mowers that I could have gotten at a big box store, but in the 8-9 years I owned it I never had an issue with it, it ALWAYS started on the first pull, and other than annual oil changes and a spark plug every 2 years or so, it was a fantastic piece of equipment. I called the dealer 3-4 years into ownership and asked if I could bring it in for service. “What for? Isn’t it working?” Quit being a cheap ass, Kaleb. Buy a quality piece of equipment and be done with it. I rest my case. -D On Mar 3, 2023, at 2:08 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes wrote: Because professional saws are used and abused. If you can find a pro saw that has seen occasionally homeowner/farm use, go for it. Otherwise buy a new one. Buying a used professional chainsaw would be like buying a car that was a rental car for a decade. Rick From: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: March 3, 2023 2:48 PM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Reply-to: mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: macj...@aol.com Subject: [MBZ] Chain saws Folks, Most of us agree that Stihl chainsaws are the best so if you are feeling cheap and need a saw, why not just find a used decent Stihl for 1/3 or 1/2 of new price. That’s why I didn’t buy a brand new 2002 e320 hovercraft wagon for $64k Maybe I am just a high wing kind of guy, but I have no love of a Cherokee 140 based on my own experiences of flying one and riding in one. Xx rick ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Chain saws
Had similar experience with a 2-stroke LawnBoy push mower. Cast aluminum deck, light and easy to use, never gave me any problems over a decade, finally got hard to start and I replaced it with an electric as I only use a push mower for small areas that the tractor can't reach now. On Fri, Mar 3, 2023, at 16:15, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote: > It’s purchases like this where you have to toss “frugal” out the window > and buy for quality. It’s far cheaper in the long run, as we all know > too well. > > Like a Honda walk behind mower I bought new some years back from the > local Honda power equipment dealer in the farm town east of me. Yeah, I > paid more for it that any number of “name brand” mowers that I could > have gotten at a big box store, but in the 8-9 years I owned it I never > had an issue with it, it ALWAYS started on the first pull, and other > than annual oil changes and a spark plug every 2 years or so, it was a > fantastic piece of equipment. > > I called the dealer 3-4 years into ownership and asked if I could bring > it in for service. “What for? Isn’t it working?” > > Quit being a cheap ass, Kaleb. Buy a quality piece of equipment and be > done with it. > > I rest my case. > > -D > >> On Mar 3, 2023, at 2:08 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes >> wrote: >> >> Because professional saws are used and abused. >> If you can find a pro saw that has seen occasionally homeowner/farm use, go >> for it. Otherwise buy a new one. >> >> Buying a used professional chainsaw would be like buying a car that was a >> rental car for a decade. >> >> >> Rick >> >> From: mercedes@okiebenz.com >> Sent: March 3, 2023 2:48 PM >> To: mercedes@okiebenz.com >> Reply-to: mercedes@okiebenz.com >> Cc: macj...@aol.com >> Subject: [MBZ] Chain saws >> >> Folks, >> >> Most of us agree that Stihl chainsaws are the best so if you are feeling >> cheap and need a saw, why not just find a used decent Stihl for 1/3 or 1/2 >> of new price. >> >> That’s why I didn’t buy a brand new 2002 e320 hovercraft wagon for $64k >> >> Maybe I am just a high wing kind of guy, but I have no love of a Cherokee >> 140 based on my own experiences of flying one and riding in one. >> >> Xx rick >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Chain saws
It’s purchases like this where you have to toss “frugal” out the window and buy for quality. It’s far cheaper in the long run, as we all know too well. Like a Honda walk behind mower I bought new some years back from the local Honda power equipment dealer in the farm town east of me. Yeah, I paid more for it that any number of “name brand” mowers that I could have gotten at a big box store, but in the 8-9 years I owned it I never had an issue with it, it ALWAYS started on the first pull, and other than annual oil changes and a spark plug every 2 years or so, it was a fantastic piece of equipment. I called the dealer 3-4 years into ownership and asked if I could bring it in for service. “What for? Isn’t it working?” Quit being a cheap ass, Kaleb. Buy a quality piece of equipment and be done with it. I rest my case. -D > On Mar 3, 2023, at 2:08 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes > wrote: > > Because professional saws are used and abused. > If you can find a pro saw that has seen occasionally homeowner/farm use, go > for it. Otherwise buy a new one. > > Buying a used professional chainsaw would be like buying a car that was a > rental car for a decade. > > > Rick > > From: mercedes@okiebenz.com > Sent: March 3, 2023 2:48 PM > To: mercedes@okiebenz.com > Reply-to: mercedes@okiebenz.com > Cc: macj...@aol.com > Subject: [MBZ] Chain saws > > Folks, > > Most of us agree that Stihl chainsaws are the best so if you are feeling > cheap and need a saw, why not just find a used decent Stihl for 1/3 or 1/2 of > new price. > > That’s why I didn’t buy a brand new 2002 e320 hovercraft wagon for $64k > > Maybe I am just a high wing kind of guy, but I have no love of a Cherokee 140 > based on my own experiences of flying one and riding in one. > > Xx rick > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Chain saws
Because professional saws are used and abused. If you can find a pro saw that has seen occasionally homeowner/farm use, go for it. Otherwise buy a new one. Buying a used professional chainsaw would be like buying a car that was a rental car for a decade. Rick From: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: March 3, 2023 2:48 PM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Reply-to: mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: macj...@aol.com Subject: [MBZ] Chain saws Folks, Most of us agree that Stihl chainsaws are the best so if you are feeling cheap and need a saw, why not just find a used decent Stihl for 1/3 or 1/2 of new price. That’s why I didn’t buy a brand new 2002 e320 hovercraft wagon for $64k Maybe I am just a high wing kind of guy, but I have no love of a Cherokee 140 based on my own experiences of flying one and riding in one. Xx rick ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Chain saws
I don’t know, I just know that I have a friend who owns a lot of acres and cuts down a lot of trees and has a sawmill told me to buy a Stihl so that’s what I bought. On the other hand, I hired a tree guy to take down some big trees last year and his big chainsaws were Husqvarnas. Sent from my iPhone > On Mar 3, 2023, at 3:39 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes > wrote: > > What do you think of Echo vs. Stihl? > >> On Fri, Mar 3, 2023, at 15:25, Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes wrote: >> Or just by a Stihl from a dealer. >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> On Mar 3, 2023, at 2:49 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes wrote: >>> >>> I am uncertain about this so take some of it with a grain of salt. >>> I think if you are going to buy a Husky these days, you should probably buy >>> the Rancher as Curt suggests. I think there was some sort of merger between >>> Husky and Poulan a few years back and the lower level Husky's may now be >>> just orange Poulans. >>> >>> Randy >>> On 02/03/2023 8:38 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote: Probably as long as you stick with a good model. For a homeowner the 445 or 450 are the way to go. Top of the homeowner line and bottom of the pro line respectively. For either of them a semi-chisel chain is a must. Both will come with a safety chain, those suck. I can't honestly see the difference when looking at them but I know my 445 cuts a helluva lot better with a semi-chisel chain. 450 might handle a full chisel chain... Haven't you been burned at box stores before? I'm thinking it was some kind of appliances. -Curt On Thursday, March 2, 2023 at 08:12:46 PM EST, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote: I’m now on the fence about screwing with the poulan pro or getting a new one. Spring is almost here and I need to do some work. Are the Husqvarnas at lowes OK? >>> >>> >>> ___ >>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>> >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>> >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>> >> >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Is McCulloch(?) still around? Those were quite good in the past as I recall. I also remember that they were very popular in the go cart community as well. -D > On Mar 3, 2023, at 1:39 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes > wrote: > >> Or just by a Stihl from a dealer. > > Yep. Echo and Husqvarna are very good too. > > > Rick > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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> Or just by a Stihl from a dealer. Yep. Echo and Husqvarna are very good too. Rick ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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What do you think of Echo vs. Stihl? On Fri, Mar 3, 2023, at 15:25, Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes wrote: > Or just by a Stihl from a dealer. > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Mar 3, 2023, at 2:49 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes >> wrote: >> >> I am uncertain about this so take some of it with a grain of salt. >> I think if you are going to buy a Husky these days, you should probably buy >> the Rancher as Curt suggests. I think there was some sort of merger between >> Husky and Poulan a few years back and the lower level Husky's may now be >> just orange Poulans. >> >> Randy >> >>> On 02/03/2023 8:38 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote: >>> Probably as long as you stick with a good model. For a homeowner the 445 or >>> 450 are the way to go. Top of the homeowner line and bottom of the pro line >>> respectively. >>> For either of them a semi-chisel chain is a must. Both will come with a >>> safety chain, those suck. I can't honestly see the difference when looking >>> at them but I know my 445 cuts a helluva lot better with a semi-chisel >>> chain. >>> 450 might handle a full chisel chain... >>> >>> Haven't you been burned at box stores before? I'm thinking it was some kind >>> of appliances. >>> >>> -Curt >>> >>> >>> On Thursday, March 2, 2023 at 08:12:46 PM EST, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes >>> wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> I’m now on the fence about screwing with the poulan pro or getting a new >>> one. Spring is almost here and I need to do some work. Are the Husqvarnas >>> at lowes OK? >>> >> >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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In looking at these I wondered what was the difference with the ranchers. Those seem to start at the 450 level. I have not really been able to tell what the difference is between the 445 and the 450 except for a little more HP Sent from my iPhone > On Mar 3, 2023, at 1:49 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes > wrote: > > I am uncertain about this so take some of it with a grain of salt. > I think if you are going to buy a Husky these days, you should probably buy > the Rancher as Curt suggests. I think there was some sort of merger between > Husky and Poulan a few years back and the lower level Husky's may now be just > orange Poulans. > > Randy > >> On 02/03/2023 8:38 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote: >> Probably as long as you stick with a good model. For a homeowner the 445 or >> 450 are the way to go. Top of the homeowner line and bottom of the pro line >> respectively. >> For either of them a semi-chisel chain is a must. Both will come with a >> safety chain, those suck. I can't honestly see the difference when looking >> at them but I know my 445 cuts a helluva lot better with a semi-chisel chain. >> 450 might handle a full chisel chain... >> >> Haven't you been burned at box stores before? I'm thinking it was some kind >> of appliances. >> >> -Curt >> >> >> On Thursday, March 2, 2023 at 08:12:46 PM EST, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes >> wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> I’m now on the fence about screwing with the poulan pro or getting a new >> one. Spring is almost here and I need to do some work. Are the Husqvarnas at >> lowes OK? >> > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Or just by a Stihl from a dealer. Sent from my iPhone > On Mar 3, 2023, at 2:49 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes > wrote: > > I am uncertain about this so take some of it with a grain of salt. > I think if you are going to buy a Husky these days, you should probably buy > the Rancher as Curt suggests. I think there was some sort of merger between > Husky and Poulan a few years back and the lower level Husky's may now be just > orange Poulans. > > Randy > >> On 02/03/2023 8:38 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote: >> Probably as long as you stick with a good model. For a homeowner the 445 or >> 450 are the way to go. Top of the homeowner line and bottom of the pro line >> respectively. >> For either of them a semi-chisel chain is a must. Both will come with a >> safety chain, those suck. I can't honestly see the difference when looking >> at them but I know my 445 cuts a helluva lot better with a semi-chisel chain. >> 450 might handle a full chisel chain... >> >> Haven't you been burned at box stores before? I'm thinking it was some kind >> of appliances. >> >> -Curt >> >> >> On Thursday, March 2, 2023 at 08:12:46 PM EST, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes >> wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> I’m now on the fence about screwing with the poulan pro or getting a new >> one. Spring is almost here and I need to do some work. Are the Husqvarnas at >> lowes OK? >> > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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I am uncertain about this so take some of it with a grain of salt. I think if you are going to buy a Husky these days, you should probably buy the Rancher as Curt suggests. I think there was some sort of merger between Husky and Poulan a few years back and the lower level Husky's may now be just orange Poulans. Randy On 02/03/2023 8:38 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote: Probably as long as you stick with a good model. For a homeowner the 445 or 450 are the way to go. Top of the homeowner line and bottom of the pro line respectively. For either of them a semi-chisel chain is a must. Both will come with a safety chain, those suck. I can't honestly see the difference when looking at them but I know my 445 cuts a helluva lot better with a semi-chisel chain. 450 might handle a full chisel chain... Haven't you been burned at box stores before? I'm thinking it was some kind of appliances. -Curt On Thursday, March 2, 2023 at 08:12:46 PM EST, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote: I’m now on the fence about screwing with the poulan pro or getting a new one. Spring is almost here and I need to do some work. Are the Husqvarnas at lowes OK? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Or Amazon has the 445 for $349. The 450 is 20" not really sure I need that over 18" On 3/2/2023 9:04 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote: They have the 450 for 449. Sent from my iPhone On Mar 2, 2023, at 8:39 PM, Curt Raymond wrote: Probably as long as you stick with a good model. For a homeowner the 445 or 450 are the way to go. Top of the homeowner line and bottom of the pro line respectively. For either of them a semi-chisel chain is a must. Both will come with a safety chain, those suck. I can't honestly see the difference when looking at them but I know my 445 cuts a helluva lot better with a semi-chisel chain. 450 might handle a full chisel chain... Haven't you been burned at box stores before? I'm thinking it was some kind of appliances. -Curt On Thursday, March 2, 2023 at 08:12:46 PM EST, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote: I’m now on the fence about screwing with the poulan pro or getting a new one. Spring is almost here and I need to do some work. Are the Husqvarnas at lowes OK? Sent from my iPhone On Mar 2, 2023, at 6:04 PM, OK Don via Mercedes wrote: I bought a Husqvarna 450 after we had that last discussion about chainsaws a few years ago. Other than the coil module dying two years ago, it starts the first time everytime. I mix the gas myself using no-alcohol unleaded and the Husqvarna oil and store it in an old metal one gallon can. I got tired of the big box saws that died an early death and the Worx plug-in electric saws (burned up two of them, one under warranty Lowes replaced it with no questions asked). On Thu, Mar 2, 2023 at 3:43 PM Craig via Mercedes wrote: On Thu, 2 Mar 2023 15:55:36 + (UTC) Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote: Anybody buying small equipment at a big box store is doomed for failure. A chainsaw especially needs to come from a chainsaw shop. In the early '80s, I went to a chainsaw shop and purchased a Poulan Counter Vibe 3400 chainsaw. It has served me well over the years. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- OK Don "Quality of life is inversely proportional to the amount of clothing you are wearing." "Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect." Mark Twain “Basic research is what I’m doing when I don’t know what I am doing.” Wernher Von Braun "In science if you know what you are doing you should not be doing it. In engineering if you do not know what you are doing you should not be doing it." -- Richard W. Hamming, The Art of Doing Science and Engineering 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Or the 440 for $359 On 3/2/2023 9:04 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote: They have the 450 for 449. Sent from my iPhone On Mar 2, 2023, at 8:39 PM, Curt Raymond wrote: Probably as long as you stick with a good model. For a homeowner the 445 or 450 are the way to go. Top of the homeowner line and bottom of the pro line respectively. For either of them a semi-chisel chain is a must. Both will come with a safety chain, those suck. I can't honestly see the difference when looking at them but I know my 445 cuts a helluva lot better with a semi-chisel chain. 450 might handle a full chisel chain... Haven't you been burned at box stores before? I'm thinking it was some kind of appliances. -Curt On Thursday, March 2, 2023 at 08:12:46 PM EST, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote: I’m now on the fence about screwing with the poulan pro or getting a new one. Spring is almost here and I need to do some work. Are the Husqvarnas at lowes OK? Sent from my iPhone On Mar 2, 2023, at 6:04 PM, OK Don via Mercedes wrote: I bought a Husqvarna 450 after we had that last discussion about chainsaws a few years ago. Other than the coil module dying two years ago, it starts the first time everytime. I mix the gas myself using no-alcohol unleaded and the Husqvarna oil and store it in an old metal one gallon can. I got tired of the big box saws that died an early death and the Worx plug-in electric saws (burned up two of them, one under warranty Lowes replaced it with no questions asked). On Thu, Mar 2, 2023 at 3:43 PM Craig via Mercedes wrote: On Thu, 2 Mar 2023 15:55:36 + (UTC) Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote: Anybody buying small equipment at a big box store is doomed for failure. A chainsaw especially needs to come from a chainsaw shop. In the early '80s, I went to a chainsaw shop and purchased a Poulan Counter Vibe 3400 chainsaw. It has served me well over the years. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- OK Don "Quality of life is inversely proportional to the amount of clothing you are wearing." "Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect." Mark Twain “Basic research is what I’m doing when I don’t know what I am doing.” Wernher Von Braun "In science if you know what you are doing you should not be doing it. In engineering if you do not know what you are doing you should not be doing it." -- Richard W. Hamming, The Art of Doing Science and Engineering 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Sell a car and get it On Thu, Mar 2, 2023, at 22:04, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote: > They have the 450 for 449. > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Mar 2, 2023, at 8:39 PM, Curt Raymond wrote: >> >> Probably as long as you stick with a good model. For a homeowner the 445 or >> 450 are the way to go. Top of the homeowner line and bottom of the pro line >> respectively. >> For either of them a semi-chisel chain is a must. Both will come with a >> safety chain, those suck. I can't honestly see the difference when looking >> at them but I know my 445 cuts a helluva lot better with a semi-chisel chain. >> 450 might handle a full chisel chain... >> >> Haven't you been burned at box stores before? I'm thinking it was some kind >> of appliances. >> >> -Curt >> >> >> On Thursday, March 2, 2023 at 08:12:46 PM EST, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes >> wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> I’m now on the fence about screwing with the poulan pro or getting a new >> one. Spring is almost here and I need to do some work. Are the Husqvarnas at >> lowes OK? >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On Mar 2, 2023, at 6:04 PM, OK Don via Mercedes >>> wrote: >>> >>> I bought a Husqvarna 450 after we had that last discussion about chainsaws >>> a few years ago. Other than the coil module dying two years ago, it starts >>> the first time everytime. I mix the gas myself using no-alcohol unleaded >>> and the Husqvarna oil and store it in an old metal one gallon can. >>> >>> I got tired of the big box saws that died an early death and the Worx >>> plug-in electric saws (burned up two of them, one under warranty Lowes >>> replaced it with no questions asked). >>> On Thu, Mar 2, 2023 at 3:43 PM Craig via Mercedes wrote: On Thu, 2 Mar 2023 15:55:36 + (UTC) Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote: > Anybody buying small equipment at a big box store is doomed for failure. > > A chainsaw especially needs to come from a chainsaw shop. In the early '80s, I went to a chainsaw shop and purchased a Poulan Counter Vibe 3400 chainsaw. It has served me well over the years. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>> >>> -- >>> OK Don >>> >>> "Quality of life is inversely proportional to the amount of clothing you >>> are wearing." >>> >>> "Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to >>> pause and reflect." Mark Twain >>> >>> “Basic research is what I’m doing when I don’t know what I am doing.” >>> Wernher >>> Von Braun >>> >>> "In science if you know what you are doing you should not be doing it. >>> In engineering if you do not know what you are doing you should not be >>> doing it." >>> -- Richard W. Hamming, The Art of Doing Science and Engineering >>> 2013 F150, 18 mpg >>> 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg >>> 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! >> >>> ___ >>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>> >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>> >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>> >> >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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They have the 450 for 449. Sent from my iPhone > On Mar 2, 2023, at 8:39 PM, Curt Raymond wrote: > > Probably as long as you stick with a good model. For a homeowner the 445 or > 450 are the way to go. Top of the homeowner line and bottom of the pro line > respectively. > For either of them a semi-chisel chain is a must. Both will come with a > safety chain, those suck. I can't honestly see the difference when looking at > them but I know my 445 cuts a helluva lot better with a semi-chisel chain. > 450 might handle a full chisel chain... > > Haven't you been burned at box stores before? I'm thinking it was some kind > of appliances. > > -Curt > > > On Thursday, March 2, 2023 at 08:12:46 PM EST, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes > wrote: > > > > > > I’m now on the fence about screwing with the poulan pro or getting a new one. > Spring is almost here and I need to do some work. Are the Husqvarnas at lowes > OK? > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Mar 2, 2023, at 6:04 PM, OK Don via Mercedes >> wrote: >> >> I bought a Husqvarna 450 after we had that last discussion about chainsaws >> a few years ago. Other than the coil module dying two years ago, it starts >> the first time everytime. I mix the gas myself using no-alcohol unleaded >> and the Husqvarna oil and store it in an old metal one gallon can. >> >> I got tired of the big box saws that died an early death and the Worx >> plug-in electric saws (burned up two of them, one under warranty Lowes >> replaced it with no questions asked). >> >>> On Thu, Mar 2, 2023 at 3:43 PM Craig via Mercedes >>> wrote: >>> >>> On Thu, 2 Mar 2023 15:55:36 + (UTC) Curt Raymond via Mercedes >>> wrote: >>> Anybody buying small equipment at a big box store is doomed for failure. A chainsaw especially needs to come from a chainsaw shop. >>> >>> In the early '80s, I went to a chainsaw shop and purchased a Poulan >>> Counter Vibe 3400 chainsaw. It has served me well over the years. >>> >>> >>> Craig >>> >>> ___ >>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>> >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>> >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>> >>> >> >> -- >> OK Don >> >> "Quality of life is inversely proportional to the amount of clothing you >> are wearing." >> >> "Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to >> pause and reflect." Mark Twain >> >> “Basic research is what I’m doing when I don’t know what I am doing.” >> Wernher >> Von Braun >> >> "In science if you know what you are doing you should not be doing it. >> In engineering if you do not know what you are doing you should not be >> doing it." >> -- Richard W. Hamming, The Art of Doing Science and Engineering >> 2013 F150, 18 mpg >> 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg >> 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! > >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Probably as long as you stick with a good model. For a homeowner the 445 or 450 are the way to go. Top of the homeowner line and bottom of the pro line respectively. For either of them a semi-chisel chain is a must. Both will come with a safety chain, those suck. I can't honestly see the difference when looking at them but I know my 445 cuts a helluva lot better with a semi-chisel chain. 450 might handle a full chisel chain... Haven't you been burned at box stores before? I'm thinking it was some kind of appliances. -Curt On Thursday, March 2, 2023 at 08:12:46 PM EST, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote: I’m now on the fence about screwing with the poulan pro or getting a new one. Spring is almost here and I need to do some work. Are the Husqvarnas at lowes OK? Sent from my iPhone > On Mar 2, 2023, at 6:04 PM, OK Don via Mercedes wrote: > > I bought a Husqvarna 450 after we had that last discussion about chainsaws > a few years ago. Other than the coil module dying two years ago, it starts > the first time everytime. I mix the gas myself using no-alcohol unleaded > and the Husqvarna oil and store it in an old metal one gallon can. > > I got tired of the big box saws that died an early death and the Worx > plug-in electric saws (burned up two of them, one under warranty Lowes > replaced it with no questions asked). > >> On Thu, Mar 2, 2023 at 3:43 PM Craig via Mercedes >> wrote: >> >> On Thu, 2 Mar 2023 15:55:36 + (UTC) Curt Raymond via Mercedes >> wrote: >> >>> Anybody buying small equipment at a big box store is doomed for failure. >>> >>> A chainsaw especially needs to come from a chainsaw shop. >> >> In the early '80s, I went to a chainsaw shop and purchased a Poulan >> Counter Vibe 3400 chainsaw. It has served me well over the years. >> >> >> Craig >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> >> > > -- > OK Don > > "Quality of life is inversely proportional to the amount of clothing you > are wearing." > > "Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to > pause and reflect." Mark Twain > > “Basic research is what I’m doing when I don’t know what I am doing.” Wernher > Von Braun > > "In science if you know what you are doing you should not be doing it. > In engineering if you do not know what you are doing you should not be > doing it." > -- Richard W. Hamming, The Art of Doing Science and Engineering > 2013 F150, 18 mpg > 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg > 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Yes. Errbuddy I know who have a Husky thinks it’s a good value. AZBob Sent from my iPhone > On Mar 2, 2023, at 6:12 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes > wrote: > > I’m now on the fence about screwing with the poulan pro or getting a new > one. Spring is almost here and I need to do some work. Are the Husqvarnas at > lowes OK? > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Mar 2, 2023, at 6:04 PM, OK Don via Mercedes >> wrote: >> >> I bought a Husqvarna 450 after we had that last discussion about chainsaws >> a few years ago. Other than the coil module dying two years ago, it starts >> the first time everytime. I mix the gas myself using no-alcohol unleaded >> and the Husqvarna oil and store it in an old metal one gallon can. >> >> I got tired of the big box saws that died an early death and the Worx >> plug-in electric saws (burned up two of them, one under warranty Lowes >> replaced it with no questions asked). >> >>> On Thu, Mar 2, 2023 at 3:43 PM Craig via Mercedes >>> wrote: >>> >>> On Thu, 2 Mar 2023 15:55:36 + (UTC) Curt Raymond via Mercedes >>> wrote: >>> Anybody buying small equipment at a big box store is doomed for failure. A chainsaw especially needs to come from a chainsaw shop. >>> >>> In the early '80s, I went to a chainsaw shop and purchased a Poulan >>> Counter Vibe 3400 chainsaw. It has served me well over the years. >>> >>> >>> Craig >>> >>> ___ >>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>> >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>> >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>> >>> >> >> -- >> OK Don >> >> "Quality of life is inversely proportional to the amount of clothing you >> are wearing." >> >> "Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to >> pause and reflect." Mark Twain >> >> “Basic research is what I’m doing when I don’t know what I am doing.” >> Wernher >> Von Braun >> >> "In science if you know what you are doing you should not be doing it. >> In engineering if you do not know what you are doing you should not be >> doing it." >> -- Richard W. Hamming, The Art of Doing Science and Engineering >> 2013 F150, 18 mpg >> 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg >> 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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I’m now on the fence about screwing with the poulan pro or getting a new one. Spring is almost here and I need to do some work. Are the Husqvarnas at lowes OK? Sent from my iPhone > On Mar 2, 2023, at 6:04 PM, OK Don via Mercedes wrote: > > I bought a Husqvarna 450 after we had that last discussion about chainsaws > a few years ago. Other than the coil module dying two years ago, it starts > the first time everytime. I mix the gas myself using no-alcohol unleaded > and the Husqvarna oil and store it in an old metal one gallon can. > > I got tired of the big box saws that died an early death and the Worx > plug-in electric saws (burned up two of them, one under warranty Lowes > replaced it with no questions asked). > >> On Thu, Mar 2, 2023 at 3:43 PM Craig via Mercedes >> wrote: >> >> On Thu, 2 Mar 2023 15:55:36 + (UTC) Curt Raymond via Mercedes >> wrote: >> >>> Anybody buying small equipment at a big box store is doomed for failure. >>> >>> A chainsaw especially needs to come from a chainsaw shop. >> >> In the early '80s, I went to a chainsaw shop and purchased a Poulan >> Counter Vibe 3400 chainsaw. It has served me well over the years. >> >> >> Craig >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> >> > > -- > OK Don > > "Quality of life is inversely proportional to the amount of clothing you > are wearing." > > "Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to > pause and reflect." Mark Twain > > “Basic research is what I’m doing when I don’t know what I am doing.” Wernher > Von Braun > > "In science if you know what you are doing you should not be doing it. > In engineering if you do not know what you are doing you should not be > doing it." >-- Richard W. Hamming, The Art of Doing Science and Engineering > 2013 F150, 18 mpg > 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg > 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Chain saws
I bought a Husqvarna 450 after we had that last discussion about chainsaws a few years ago. Other than the coil module dying two years ago, it starts the first time everytime. I mix the gas myself using no-alcohol unleaded and the Husqvarna oil and store it in an old metal one gallon can. I got tired of the big box saws that died an early death and the Worx plug-in electric saws (burned up two of them, one under warranty Lowes replaced it with no questions asked). On Thu, Mar 2, 2023 at 3:43 PM Craig via Mercedes wrote: > On Thu, 2 Mar 2023 15:55:36 + (UTC) Curt Raymond via Mercedes > wrote: > > > Anybody buying small equipment at a big box store is doomed for failure. > > > > A chainsaw especially needs to come from a chainsaw shop. > > In the early '80s, I went to a chainsaw shop and purchased a Poulan > Counter Vibe 3400 chainsaw. It has served me well over the years. > > > Craig > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > -- OK Don "Quality of life is inversely proportional to the amount of clothing you are wearing." "Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect." Mark Twain “Basic research is what I’m doing when I don’t know what I am doing.” Wernher Von Braun "In science if you know what you are doing you should not be doing it. In engineering if you do not know what you are doing you should not be doing it." -- Richard W. Hamming, The Art of Doing Science and Engineering 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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On Thu, 2 Mar 2023 15:55:36 + (UTC) Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote: > Anybody buying small equipment at a big box store is doomed for failure. > > A chainsaw especially needs to come from a chainsaw shop. In the early '80s, I went to a chainsaw shop and purchased a Poulan Counter Vibe 3400 chainsaw. It has served me well over the years. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Yeah, I’m busy dealing with 18” of snow from last night, so I’ll watch it tonight when I’m resting up. -D > On Mar 2, 2023, at 12:38 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes > wrote: > > You're welcome. When you only use a generator every two or three years, and a > chainsaw once a year you seek this stuff out. If you didn't watch it, the two > stroke video uses straight two stroke oil instead of ATF. > > > Rick > > From: mercedes@okiebenz.com > Sent: March 2, 2023 1:09 PM > To: mercedes@okiebenz.com > Reply-to: mercedes@okiebenz.com > Cc: d...@penoff.com > Subject: Re: [MBZ] Chain saws > > Now THAT I know how to do. Even wrote some technical papers on it, i.e., > “pickling” as we called it. > > Thanks! > > -D > >> On Mar 2, 2023, at 11:18 AM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes >> wrote: >> >> One for long term generator storage. >> >> https://youtu.be/UWNC1TDTpzk >> >> https://youtu.be/Pzzkhn-8am0/?start=17m6s >> >> >> Rick >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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You're welcome. When you only use a generator every two or three years, and a chainsaw once a year you seek this stuff out. If you didn't watch it, the two stroke video uses straight two stroke oil instead of ATF. Rick From: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: March 2, 2023 1:09 PM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Reply-to: mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: d...@penoff.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Chain saws Now THAT I know how to do. Even wrote some technical papers on it, i.e., “pickling” as we called it. Thanks! -D > On Mar 2, 2023, at 11:18 AM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes > wrote: > > One for long term generator storage. > > https://youtu.be/UWNC1TDTpzk > > https://youtu.be/Pzzkhn-8am0/?start=17m6s > > > Rick > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Now THAT I know how to do. Even wrote some technical papers on it, i.e., “pickling” as we called it. Thanks! -D > On Mar 2, 2023, at 11:18 AM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes > wrote: > > One for long term generator storage. > > https://youtu.be/UWNC1TDTpzk > > https://youtu.be/Pzzkhn-8am0/?start=17m6s > > > Rick > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Chain saws
One for long term generator storage. https://youtu.be/UWNC1TDTpzk https://youtu.be/Pzzkhn-8am0/?start=17m6s Rick ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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> Mine’s a Stihl that I bought off FBM or CL, I don’t recall. It was running > when I bought it, but I suspect that even though I ran it out of fuel and > have only used ethanol free fuel in it, the carb is crudded up just from lack > of use. https://youtu.be/GUzJR7WHU5Y/?start=739s You could probably use ATF also. More tips on fuel if you're interested. https://youtu.be/TQZK-hcl5M4 https://youtu.be/UDuKE26G2mo https://youtu.be/oVipAna4kYA Rick ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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For use around the house I'll never go back to a gas string trimmer. I've got an 18v Makita that's great. At camp we have a B that is also pretty good. For heavy brush I have an old Husky straight shaft pro model but it rarely gets broken out these days. -Curt On Thursday, March 2, 2023 at 11:33:55 AM EST, MG via Mercedes wrote: I have a Greenworks 16" 40V saw that I bought some 5-6 years ago. I was unsure about how good it would work but I'm convinced that I'm not going back to gas. I even went and bought the string trimer and pole saw all of them use the same batteries. When I bought them all came with a battery and charger so I have extra chargers and batteries. At 73 I find that even now the two 4AH and two 2AH batteries will last for about 3/4 hour of cutting. after that I am ready to go inside and sit down and let the batteries charge because I've cut enough wood to last for the next month of the cold season down here in the Gainesville area of Fl. We heat entirely with wood so it is a goodly pile that will require splitting but I tend to leave that for later. Kind of done in with cutting by then. Really like the saw and I have replaced the bar a couple of times and worn out 3-4 chains with resharpening in the years I've had it. Still works good. Manfred Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote: > Has anyone bought an electric chain saw? I have a gas powered one but I > use it very little, and when I do need to use it, the damn thing > requires a lot of hassle to get it started. Usually because I fail to > drain the gas out of it. I guess since I never know when I am going to > use it, I should drain the gas each time. Last year I needed to use it > but could never get it to start and run. I am sure the carb needs to be > cleaned out, or replaced. Due to infrequent use, perhaps I should buy > an electric one? > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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On 02/03/2023 9:55 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote: Anybody buying small equipment at a big box store is doomed for failure. A chainsaw especially needs to come from a chainsaw shop. -Curt On the other hand, I bought my Husqvarna at Lowes at least 10 or 15 years ago and have had no problems with it. Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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We have a Worx mini 10” 20v chainsaw that has a pole to convert it into a pole saw. It was good enough to cut a tree that had fallen onto our chain link fence last June. The tree was about 5” thick. We had the weed whacker as well with 3 batteries between them. It’s just what we need for occasional cutting and trimming. Kevin in Lexington, NC Sent from my iPhone > On Mar 2, 2023, at 11:36 AM, MG via Mercedes wrote: > > I have a Greenworks 16" 40V saw that I bought some 5-6 years ago. I was > unsure about how good it would work but I'm convinced that I'm not going back > to gas. I even went and bought the string trimer and pole saw all of them use > the same batteries. When I bought them all came with a battery and charger so > I have extra chargers and batteries. > At 73 I find that even now the two 4AH and two 2AH batteries will last for > about 3/4 hour of cutting. after that I am ready to go inside and sit down > and let the batteries charge because I've cut enough wood to last for the > next month of the cold season down here in the Gainesville area of Fl. We > heat entirely with wood so it is a goodly pile that will require splitting > but I tend to leave that for later. Kind of done in with cutting by then. > Really like the saw and I have replaced the bar a couple of times and worn > out 3-4 chains with resharpening in the years I've had it. Still works good. > > Manfred > > Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote: >> Has anyone bought an electric chain saw? I have a gas powered one but I use >> it very little, and when I do need to use it, the damn thing requires a lot >> of hassle to get it started. Usually because I fail to drain the gas out of >> it. I guess since I never know when I am going to use it, I should drain >> the gas each time. Last year I needed to use it but could never get it to >> start and run. I am sure the carb needs to be cleaned out, or replaced. >> Due to infrequent use, perhaps I should buy an electric one? >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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I have a Greenworks 16" 40V saw that I bought some 5-6 years ago. I was unsure about how good it would work but I'm convinced that I'm not going back to gas. I even went and bought the string trimer and pole saw all of them use the same batteries. When I bought them all came with a battery and charger so I have extra chargers and batteries. At 73 I find that even now the two 4AH and two 2AH batteries will last for about 3/4 hour of cutting. after that I am ready to go inside and sit down and let the batteries charge because I've cut enough wood to last for the next month of the cold season down here in the Gainesville area of Fl. We heat entirely with wood so it is a goodly pile that will require splitting but I tend to leave that for later. Kind of done in with cutting by then. Really like the saw and I have replaced the bar a couple of times and worn out 3-4 chains with resharpening in the years I've had it. Still works good. Manfred Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote: Has anyone bought an electric chain saw? I have a gas powered one but I use it very little, and when I do need to use it, the damn thing requires a lot of hassle to get it started. Usually because I fail to drain the gas out of it. I guess since I never know when I am going to use it, I should drain the gas each time. Last year I needed to use it but could never get it to start and run. I am sure the carb needs to be cleaned out, or replaced. Due to infrequent use, perhaps I should buy an electric one? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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> I’m going to start using the canned stuff. It’s not cheap, but I don’t use > that much of it. It's not that hard to mix your own. Start with ethanol-free gas, available around here at most Maverick stores, and mix with the Stihl oil. I believe it has fuel stabilizer in it. But the stuff is now marketed as being biodegradable, so beware. I suspect that the metal can, impermeable and unvented, is the key to the storage life of the premixed fuel. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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After I get mine sorted I’m going to start using the canned stuff. It’s not cheap, but I don’t use that much of it. -D > On Mar 2, 2023, at 9:14 AM, Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes > wrote: > > The canned pre-mix also smells good. I didn’t taste it yet. ;) > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Mar 2, 2023, at 10:46 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes >> wrote: >> >> We've got a Harbor Freight cordless saw at camp. It works great for a >> trimming saw and for taking small firewood. >> https://photos.app.goo.gl/VfawMmz3d8NBTuh96 >> In the picture I've cut all the wood in the tractor bucket on that one small >> battery. We should get a larger battery or a larger saw. >> Makita makes a 36v saw that uses 2x 18v batteries. I've got a circular saw >> that works the same way. That saw is highly rated, priced like a gas saw >> though... >> >> For the gas saw I use nothing but canned gas and I've had way fewer problems >> since I started that. >> >> -Curt >> >> >> On Wednesday, March 1, 2023 at 10:21:32 PM EST, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes >> wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> Has anyone bought an electric chain saw? I have a gas powered one but I >> use it very little, and when I do need to use it, the damn thing >> requires a lot of hassle to get it started. Usually because I fail to >> drain the gas out of it. I guess since I never know when I am going to >> use it, I should drain the gas each time. Last year I needed to use it >> but could never get it to start and run. I am sure the carb needs to be >> cleaned out, or replaced. Due to infrequent use, perhaps I should buy >> an electric one? >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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The canned pre-mix also smells good. I didn’t taste it yet. ;) Sent from my iPhone > On Mar 2, 2023, at 10:46 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes > wrote: > > We've got a Harbor Freight cordless saw at camp. It works great for a > trimming saw and for taking small firewood. > https://photos.app.goo.gl/VfawMmz3d8NBTuh96 > In the picture I've cut all the wood in the tractor bucket on that one small > battery. We should get a larger battery or a larger saw. > Makita makes a 36v saw that uses 2x 18v batteries. I've got a circular saw > that works the same way. That saw is highly rated, priced like a gas saw > though... > > For the gas saw I use nothing but canned gas and I've had way fewer problems > since I started that. > > -Curt > > > On Wednesday, March 1, 2023 at 10:21:32 PM EST, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes > wrote: > > > > > > Has anyone bought an electric chain saw? I have a gas powered one but I > use it very little, and when I do need to use it, the damn thing > requires a lot of hassle to get it started. Usually because I fail to > drain the gas out of it. I guess since I never know when I am going to > use it, I should drain the gas each time. Last year I needed to use it > but could never get it to start and run. I am sure the carb needs to be > cleaned out, or replaced. Due to infrequent use, perhaps I should buy > an electric one? > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Mine’s a Stihl that I bought off FBM or CL, I don’t recall. It was running when I bought it, but I suspect that even though I ran it out of fuel and have only used ethanol free fuel in it, the carb is crudded up just from lack of use. I really need to get it sorted before hurricane season starts. -D > On Mar 2, 2023, at 8:51 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes > wrote: > > One of the guys in the snowmobile club fought a Poulan Pro for years. It'd > run sometimes but it had no balls. They're garbage commodity saws. > > I've got a Husky 445 which is the top of their homeowner saws. I've been > thinking about upgrading to a 450 which is the bottom of the pro line but as > you step into pro saws the weight increases quickly. > > I like that my 445 has secondary air injection which means no smoke when it's > running. I've had it for 15-16 years now. I did finally upgrade to a > semi-chisel chain instead of a safety chain. It cuts a lot faster... > > -Curt > > On Wednesday, March 1, 2023 at 10:51:22 PM EST, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes > wrote: > > > > > > The one I have is a poulon pro or whatever they are called from Lowes. > It was not the bottom model but the next step up I believe. It ran and > cut pretty good for a while, but last year when I needed it I could not > get the thing to start. > > On 3/1/2023 9:48 PM, Jim Cathey wrote: >> My house came with a Wards or Sears saw, probably made by Jonsered. >> I fought it for a couple of years, it was basically scared of wood. You >> could >> get it started, rev it all you wanted, but show it a log and it would die >> before >> cutting one chip. Voodoo mystery BS for sure. You could go through all the >> same motions with your back to the log and the saw roared just fine. Same >> hold, same pitch/roll/yaw, etc. Pivot carefully to the wood, changing >> nothing >> about the position of the saw, and plo. >> >> Maddening. Once in awhile it would cut, but often not. >> >> I drove off and bought the Stihl 036, one down from their top model and kind >> of expensive at a time when I could ill afford it, and never looked back. >> It's >> an absolute beast, and with a fresh chain (and sometimes bar, 'cause once >> you tweak one it's never the same again) it'll chew through logs at a rate >> that >> is hard to believe. >> >> -- Jim >> > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Anybody buying small equipment at a big box store is doomed for failure. A chainsaw especially needs to come from a chainsaw shop. -Curt On Wednesday, March 1, 2023 at 11:08:48 PM EST, Jim Cathey via Mercedes wrote: My 036 was bought brand-new at the local saw boutique, the only place you could get Stihl at the time. (Circa 1995.) Spendy, as saws went. I was cutting happily that afternoon. The MS170 I bought fairly recently at the pawn shop. About $110. Used, of course. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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One of the guys in the snowmobile club fought a Poulan Pro for years. It'd run sometimes but it had no balls. They're garbage commodity saws. I've got a Husky 445 which is the top of their homeowner saws. I've been thinking about upgrading to a 450 which is the bottom of the pro line but as you step into pro saws the weight increases quickly. I like that my 445 has secondary air injection which means no smoke when it's running. I've had it for 15-16 years now. I did finally upgrade to a semi-chisel chain instead of a safety chain. It cuts a lot faster... -Curt On Wednesday, March 1, 2023 at 10:51:22 PM EST, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote: The one I have is a poulon pro or whatever they are called from Lowes. It was not the bottom model but the next step up I believe. It ran and cut pretty good for a while, but last year when I needed it I could not get the thing to start. On 3/1/2023 9:48 PM, Jim Cathey wrote: > My house came with a Wards or Sears saw, probably made by Jonsered. > I fought it for a couple of years, it was basically scared of wood. You could > get it started, rev it all you wanted, but show it a log and it would die > before > cutting one chip. Voodoo mystery BS for sure. You could go through all the > same motions with your back to the log and the saw roared just fine. Same > hold, same pitch/roll/yaw, etc. Pivot carefully to the wood, changing nothing > about the position of the saw, and plo. > > Maddening. Once in awhile it would cut, but often not. > > I drove off and bought the Stihl 036, one down from their top model and kind > of expensive at a time when I could ill afford it, and never looked back. > It's > an absolute beast, and with a fresh chain (and sometimes bar, 'cause once > you tweak one it's never the same again) it'll chew through logs at a rate > that > is hard to believe. > > -- Jim > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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We've got a Harbor Freight cordless saw at camp. It works great for a trimming saw and for taking small firewood. https://photos.app.goo.gl/VfawMmz3d8NBTuh96 In the picture I've cut all the wood in the tractor bucket on that one small battery. We should get a larger battery or a larger saw. Makita makes a 36v saw that uses 2x 18v batteries. I've got a circular saw that works the same way. That saw is highly rated, priced like a gas saw though... For the gas saw I use nothing but canned gas and I've had way fewer problems since I started that. -Curt On Wednesday, March 1, 2023 at 10:21:32 PM EST, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote: Has anyone bought an electric chain saw? I have a gas powered one but I use it very little, and when I do need to use it, the damn thing requires a lot of hassle to get it started. Usually because I fail to drain the gas out of it. I guess since I never know when I am going to use it, I should drain the gas each time. Last year I needed to use it but could never get it to start and run. I am sure the carb needs to be cleaned out, or replaced. Due to infrequent use, perhaps I should buy an electric one? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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I bought a longer bar and chain for my Stihl but I haven’t put it on yet. I guess when the next ‘cane comes… --FT Sent from iFōn > On Mar 1, 2023, at 11:21 PM, Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes > wrote: > > > > > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Mar 1, 2023, at 11:02 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes >> wrote: >> >> I am not a poos so I will look into a Stihl >> On 3/1/2023 10:00 PM, Dimitri Seretakis wrote: >>> Get a stihl and use the premixed gas in a tin. Electric chain saws and EVs >>> are for pussified men. >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> > On Mar 1, 2023, at 10:51 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes > wrote: The one I have is a poulon pro or whatever they are called from Lowes. It was not the bottom model but the next step up I believe. It ran and cut pretty good for a while, but last year when I needed it I could not get the thing to start. > On 3/1/2023 9:48 PM, Jim Cathey wrote: > My house came with a Wards or Sears saw, probably made by Jonsered. > I fought it for a couple of years, it was basically scared of wood. You > could > get it started, rev it all you wanted, but show it a log and it would die > before > cutting one chip. Voodoo mystery BS for sure. You could go through all > the > same motions with your back to the log and the saw roared just fine. Same > hold, same pitch/roll/yaw, etc. Pivot carefully to the wood, changing > nothing > about the position of the saw, and plo. > > Maddening. Once in awhile it would cut, but often not. > > I drove off and bought the Stihl 036, one down from their top model and > kind > of expensive at a time when I could ill afford it, and never looked back. > It's > an absolute beast, and with a fresh chain (and sometimes bar, 'cause once > you tweak one it's never the same again) it'll chew through logs at a > rate that > is hard to believe. > > -- Jim > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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I have a corded sears chainsaw I bought maybe 30yr ago. I get it out occasionally around the house where I can plug it in, and have used it with that little HF $80 generator but the saw strains the generator. The handle guard broke years ago so it’s probably dangerous as hell to use but for the occasional quick use it’s great. It’s basically a circ saw with a bar. I think I’ve taken the switch apart a coupla times to get it working again. I want to get my dad’s Homelite XL12 chainsaw working. I no think it needs a fuel pickup or something which last I looked for one was NLA. It’s probably close to 60yo as I recall my dad picking it up off the Dog, my uncle worked for a tractor shop or something that sold the things and he got it and shipped it to my dad. --FT Sent from iFōn > On Mar 1, 2023, at 10:21 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes > wrote: > > Has anyone bought an electric chain saw? I have a gas powered one but I use > it very little, and when I do need to use it, the damn thing requires a lot > of hassle to get it started. Usually because I fail to drain the gas out of > it. I guess since I never know when I am going to use it, I should drain the > gas each time. Last year I needed to use it but could never get it to start > and run. I am sure the carb needs to be cleaned out, or replaced. Due to > infrequent use, perhaps I should buy an electric one? > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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My 036 was bought brand-new at the local saw boutique, the only place you could get Stihl at the time. (Circa 1995.) Spendy, as saws went. I was cutting happily that afternoon. The MS170 I bought fairly recently at the pawn shop. About $110. Used, of course. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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The last time that Jonsered (?) screwed me I called my brother and asked: "If cost is no object, what's the saw I want?" "Stihl". -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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As my brother the mechanic points out: Fuel, compression, spark. You need all three. For 'sudden', but quiet failures it's either a clogged fuel system, or a failure of the spark. Change the plug, check that it sparks suitably when you pull the rope. It is unlikely that the timing slipped, not the way they're constructed. (More magneto than otherwise.) It's usually a fuel problem. (Two-strokes need a good crankcase seal, else they don't work. Those can age and eventually fail. Not sure how you test/prove those.) Pull the carb and clean it. Maybe even drop $15 on a new one. Make sure the fuel pickup sinker in the tank is in good shape, that its feed hoses aren't leaking air. I had to replace that on my 036 not too long ago. Plastic/rubber sucks almost as hard as batteries, and does not last forever. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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I am not a poos so I will look into a Stihl On 3/1/2023 10:00 PM, Dimitri Seretakis wrote: Get a stihl and use the premixed gas in a tin. Electric chain saws and EVs are for pussified men. Sent from my iPhone On Mar 1, 2023, at 10:51 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote: The one I have is a poulon pro or whatever they are called from Lowes. It was not the bottom model but the next step up I believe. It ran and cut pretty good for a while, but last year when I needed it I could not get the thing to start. On 3/1/2023 9:48 PM, Jim Cathey wrote: My house came with a Wards or Sears saw, probably made by Jonsered. I fought it for a couple of years, it was basically scared of wood. You could get it started, rev it all you wanted, but show it a log and it would die before cutting one chip. Voodoo mystery BS for sure. You could go through all the same motions with your back to the log and the saw roared just fine. Same hold, same pitch/roll/yaw, etc. Pivot carefully to the wood, changing nothing about the position of the saw, and plo. Maddening. Once in awhile it would cut, but often not. I drove off and bought the Stihl 036, one down from their top model and kind of expensive at a time when I could ill afford it, and never looked back. It's an absolute beast, and with a fresh chain (and sometimes bar, 'cause once you tweak one it's never the same again) it'll chew through logs at a rate that is hard to believe. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Get a stihl and use the premixed gas in a tin. Electric chain saws and EVs are for pussified men. Sent from my iPhone > On Mar 1, 2023, at 10:51 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes > wrote: > > The one I have is a poulon pro or whatever they are called from Lowes. It > was not the bottom model but the next step up I believe. It ran and cut > pretty good for a while, but last year when I needed it I could not get the > thing to start. > >> On 3/1/2023 9:48 PM, Jim Cathey wrote: >> My house came with a Wards or Sears saw, probably made by Jonsered. >> I fought it for a couple of years, it was basically scared of wood. You >> could >> get it started, rev it all you wanted, but show it a log and it would die >> before >> cutting one chip. Voodoo mystery BS for sure. You could go through all the >> same motions with your back to the log and the saw roared just fine. Same >> hold, same pitch/roll/yaw, etc. Pivot carefully to the wood, changing >> nothing >> about the position of the saw, and plo. >> >> Maddening. Once in awhile it would cut, but often not. >> >> I drove off and bought the Stihl 036, one down from their top model and kind >> of expensive at a time when I could ill afford it, and never looked back. >> It's >> an absolute beast, and with a fresh chain (and sometimes bar, 'cause once >> you tweak one it's never the same again) it'll chew through logs at a rate >> that >> is hard to believe. >> >> -- Jim >> > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Chain saws
The one I have is a poulon pro or whatever they are called from Lowes. It was not the bottom model but the next step up I believe. It ran and cut pretty good for a while, but last year when I needed it I could not get the thing to start. On 3/1/2023 9:48 PM, Jim Cathey wrote: My house came with a Wards or Sears saw, probably made by Jonsered. I fought it for a couple of years, it was basically scared of wood. You could get it started, rev it all you wanted, but show it a log and it would die before cutting one chip. Voodoo mystery BS for sure. You could go through all the same motions with your back to the log and the saw roared just fine. Same hold, same pitch/roll/yaw, etc. Pivot carefully to the wood, changing nothing about the position of the saw, and plo. Maddening. Once in awhile it would cut, but often not. I drove off and bought the Stihl 036, one down from their top model and kind of expensive at a time when I could ill afford it, and never looked back. It's an absolute beast, and with a fresh chain (and sometimes bar, 'cause once you tweak one it's never the same again) it'll chew through logs at a rate that is hard to believe. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Chain saws
My house came with a Wards or Sears saw, probably made by Jonsered. I fought it for a couple of years, it was basically scared of wood. You could get it started, rev it all you wanted, but show it a log and it would die before cutting one chip. Voodoo mystery BS for sure. You could go through all the same motions with your back to the log and the saw roared just fine. Same hold, same pitch/roll/yaw, etc. Pivot carefully to the wood, changing nothing about the position of the saw, and plo. Maddening. Once in awhile it would cut, but often not. I drove off and bought the Stihl 036, one down from their top model and kind of expensive at a time when I could ill afford it, and never looked back. It's an absolute beast, and with a fresh chain (and sometimes bar, 'cause once you tweak one it's never the same again) it'll chew through logs at a rate that is hard to believe. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Yea, I guess you convinced me. Once you get the damn thing running, the sound of that gas chain saw buzzing sure sounds powerful compared to what I suspect an electric one would sound like. On 3/1/2023 9:38 PM, Jim Cathey wrote: Basically I loathe batteries with a white-hot passion. Necessary evils, though. Given the choice between a gas saw and a battery-operated one, it's gas all the way, baby! -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Understood. Wasn’t sure what you were looking to do. I have always been amazed by the Honda walk behind mower I had for 6-7 years that I never did a thing to other than change oil and once a spark plug. No choke or other fiddly bits, just “stop” and “run”. That thing started on the first pull, every flipping time, and never failed to start. I found that truly amazing. -D > On Mar 1, 2023, at 8:35 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes > wrote: > > I actually have an electric pole saw I use every now and then. I am talking > about the cordless kind, which at first glance seemed cheap till I looked at > the price of the battery and charger. I may just sort out my gas one. I > also hate dealing with small engines. I do not think they are that > complicated but still somewhat of a mystery to me. > > On 3/1/2023 9:30 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote: >> Depending on what you need to do with it, I borrowed a neighbor’s electric >> pole saw a while back and it worked great. >> >> Can’t get my chain saw started, either. I really detest small engines. >> >> -D >> >>> On Mar 1, 2023, at 8:21 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes >>> wrote: >>> >>> Has anyone bought an electric chain saw? I have a gas powered one but I >>> use it very little, and when I do need to use it, the damn thing requires a >>> lot of hassle to get it started. Usually because I fail to drain the gas >>> out of it. I guess since I never know when I am going to use it, I should >>> drain the gas each time. Last year I needed to use it but could never get >>> it to start and run. I am sure the carb needs to be cleaned out, or >>> replaced. Due to infrequent use, perhaps I should buy an electric one? >>> >>> ___ >>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>> >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>> >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Basically I loathe batteries with a white-hot passion. Necessary evils, though. Given the choice between a gas saw and a battery-operated one, it's gas all the way, baby! -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Chain saws
I actually have an electric pole saw I use every now and then. I am talking about the cordless kind, which at first glance seemed cheap till I looked at the price of the battery and charger. I may just sort out my gas one. I also hate dealing with small engines. I do not think they are that complicated but still somewhat of a mystery to me. On 3/1/2023 9:30 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote: Depending on what you need to do with it, I borrowed a neighbor’s electric pole saw a while back and it worked great. Can’t get my chain saw started, either. I really detest small engines. -D On Mar 1, 2023, at 8:21 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote: Has anyone bought an electric chain saw? I have a gas powered one but I use it very little, and when I do need to use it, the damn thing requires a lot of hassle to get it started. Usually because I fail to drain the gas out of it. I guess since I never know when I am going to use it, I should drain the gas each time. Last year I needed to use it but could never get it to start and run. I am sure the carb needs to be cleaned out, or replaced. Due to infrequent use, perhaps I should buy an electric one? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Chain saws
Many years ago I bought a Homelite (?) plug-in saw. It has always worked when I needed it, though it's weak and small compared to my two Stihl saws. I'm not sure which would piss me off more: getting a cranky gas saw started, or dealing with aging batteries. The plug-in saw has neither drawback. For a quick branch or three, within easy reach of a plug, it's a no-brainer. For a mobile current bush, an inverter on the truck would be easy. For anything of any size or duration, the Stihl 036 all day long. It's not _that_ hard to get started. For limbing I use a lighter Stihl MS170, but at only 1.6HP it's feeble compared to the 4.5HP of the 036. -- Jim > On Mar 1, 2023, at 7:21 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes > wrote: > > Has anyone bought an electric chain saw? I have a gas powered one but I use > it very little, and when I do need to use it, the damn thing requires a lot > of hassle to get it started. Usually because I fail to drain the gas out of > it. I guess since I never know when I am going to use it, I should drain the > gas each time. Last year I needed to use it but could never get it to start > and run. I am sure the carb needs to be cleaned out, or replaced. Due to > infrequent use, perhaps I should buy an electric one? > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Chain saws
Depending on what you need to do with it, I borrowed a neighbor’s electric pole saw a while back and it worked great. Can’t get my chain saw started, either. I really detest small engines. -D > On Mar 1, 2023, at 8:21 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes > wrote: > > Has anyone bought an electric chain saw? I have a gas powered one but I use > it very little, and when I do need to use it, the damn thing requires a lot > of hassle to get it started. Usually because I fail to drain the gas out of > it. I guess since I never know when I am going to use it, I should drain the > gas each time. Last year I needed to use it but could never get it to start > and run. I am sure the carb needs to be cleaned out, or replaced. Due to > infrequent use, perhaps I should buy an electric one? > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
