Re: [MBZ] Diesel OIL again
Hi Curt - here's a 1 month + reminder of our previous conversation... ;-) (no I'm not that well organized, I just came across this by accident) ;-) LarryT 91 300D youroil.net (Oil Analysis) On 4/22/2012 9:51 AM, Curt Raymond wrote: Thanks for the offer Larry, I have a couple kits left, I'd like the long form next time if possible. How would I remind you of that? I'm still waiting for Brian to put up some data. He says Mobil 1 has changed and isn't as good. I provide data points spanning 6 years that says he's wrong, he just questions my data... -Curt Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2012 20:05:38 -0400 From: Larry Tl02tur...@comcast.net To: Mercedes Discussion Listmercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Diesel OIL again Message-ID:4f934b52.1090...@comcast.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed During the Oil Analysis test, the viscosity it tested at 100C. a 15W40 should test at 40W (not below, not above) at 100C after 4000-500 miles, perhaps more... The oil analysis report is broken into 3 basic parts - metal contamination - looking for excess copper, lead, iron, alum, etc, then there's the Additives section where the normal additives are shown with their levels. Finally theres the physical part where viscosity, grade, water presence, glycol presence, etc is shown. I can send more info if you;re interested in buying some kits? I can provide this info to anyone of course - which includes a sample Analysis report. The sample I use is a sanitized version of a real test - a long distance trucker gets his oil tested with me and I have a sample page with 5 or 6 tests on it. Sorry I'm getting to this late - LarryT 91 300D On 4/13/2012 11:55 AM, Brian Toscano wrote: What kind of viscosity is 40? Did they test it cold? On Fri, Apr 13, 2012 at 9:50 AM, Curt Raymondcurtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: I didn't do TBN, viscosity was 40 on both, M1 5w40 was the oil. -Curt Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2012 09:27:43 -0600 From: Brian Toscanobrian.tosc...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion Listmercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Diesel OIL again Message-ID: cacncphnznkvk28vp2fs4kf8p69guxoe+l5evy+6xxn4cmt7...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Viscosity and TBN? On Fri, Apr 13, 2012 at 9:24 AM, Curt Raymondcurtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: And where are your results pray tell? Upfront I'll admit I haven't done TBN tests. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Diesel OIL again
Thanks for the offer Larry, I have a couple kits left, I'd like the long form next time if possible. How would I remind you of that? I'm still waiting for Brian to put up some data. He says Mobil 1 has changed and isn't as good. I provide data points spanning 6 years that says he's wrong, he just questions my data... -Curt Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2012 20:05:38 -0400 From: Larry T l02tur...@comcast.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Diesel OIL again Message-ID: 4f934b52.1090...@comcast.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed During the Oil Analysis test, the viscosity it tested at 100C. a 15W40 should test at 40W (not below, not above) at 100C after 4000-500 miles, perhaps more... The oil analysis report is broken into 3 basic parts - metal contamination - looking for excess copper, lead, iron, alum, etc, then there's the Additives section where the normal additives are shown with their levels. Finally theres the physical part where viscosity, grade, water presence, glycol presence, etc is shown. I can send more info if you;re interested in buying some kits? I can provide this info to anyone of course - which includes a sample Analysis report. The sample I use is a sanitized version of a real test - a long distance trucker gets his oil tested with me and I have a sample page with 5 or 6 tests on it. Sorry I'm getting to this late - LarryT 91 300D On 4/13/2012 11:55 AM, Brian Toscano wrote: What kind of viscosity is 40? Did they test it cold? On Fri, Apr 13, 2012 at 9:50 AM, Curt Raymondcurtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: I didn't do TBN, viscosity was 40 on both, M1 5w40 was the oil. -Curt Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2012 09:27:43 -0600 From: Brian Toscanobrian.tosc...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion Listmercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Diesel OIL again Message-ID: cacncphnznkvk28vp2fs4kf8p69guxoe+l5evy+6xxn4cmt7...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Viscosity and TBN? On Fri, Apr 13, 2012 at 9:24 AM, Curt Raymondcurtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: And where are your results pray tell? Upfront I'll admit I haven't done TBN tests. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Diesel OIL again
Thanks Curt, I don't see any point in furthering the discussion since you do not test for TBN. Thanks, Brian On Sun, Apr 22, 2012 at 7:51 AM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: Thanks for the offer Larry, I have a couple kits left, I'd like the long form next time if possible. How would I remind you of that? I'm still waiting for Brian to put up some data. He says Mobil 1 has changed and isn't as good. I provide data points spanning 6 years that says he's wrong, he just questions my data... -Curt Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2012 20:05:38 -0400 From: Larry T l02tur...@comcast.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Diesel OIL again Message-ID: 4f934b52.1090...@comcast.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed During the Oil Analysis test, the viscosity it tested at 100C. a 15W40 should test at 40W (not below, not above) at 100C after 4000-500 miles, perhaps more... The oil analysis report is broken into 3 basic parts - metal contamination - looking for excess copper, lead, iron, alum, etc, then there's the Additives section where the normal additives are shown with their levels. Finally theres the physical part where viscosity, grade, water presence, glycol presence, etc is shown. I can send more info if you;re interested in buying some kits? I can provide this info to anyone of course - which includes a sample Analysis report. The sample I use is a sanitized version of a real test - a long distance trucker gets his oil tested with me and I have a sample page with 5 or 6 tests on it. Sorry I'm getting to this late - LarryT 91 300D On 4/13/2012 11:55 AM, Brian Toscano wrote: What kind of viscosity is 40? Did they test it cold? On Fri, Apr 13, 2012 at 9:50 AM, Curt Raymondcurtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: I didn't do TBN, viscosity was 40 on both, M1 5w40 was the oil. -Curt Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2012 09:27:43 -0600 From: Brian Toscanobrian.tosc...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion Listmercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Diesel OIL again Message-ID: cacncphnznkvk28vp2fs4kf8p69guxoe+l5evy+6xxn4cmt7...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Viscosity and TBN? On Fri, Apr 13, 2012 at 9:24 AM, Curt Raymondcurtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: And where are your results pray tell? Upfront I'll admit I haven't done TBN tests. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Diesel OIL again
So show your data! No data means you got nuthin, you're just following that somebody else said that Mobil 1 has changed and isn't any good anymore. Why does my not having tested TBN make any difference? Besides with ultra low sulfur diesel TBN is less important than it used to be. Actually I was under the impression TBN was less important on diesels anyway. -Curt Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2012 11:29:13 -0600 From: Brian Toscano brian.tosc...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Diesel OIL again Message-ID: cacncphkxswri7r7vxysjeulzwnhdjadgmgttey2l9k1pxuj...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Thanks Curt, I don't see any point in furthering the discussion since you do not test for TBN. Thanks, Brian On Sun, Apr 22, 2012 at 7:51 AM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: Thanks for the offer Larry, I have a couple kits left, I'd like the long form next time if possible. How would I remind you of that? I'm still waiting for Brian to put up some data. He says Mobil 1 has changed and isn't as good. I provide data points spanning 6 years that says he's wrong, he just questions my data... -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Diesel OIL again
Thanks Curt, I am still collecting data. That's why I suggested using caution for extended drains rather than flat out saying don't do it which is what you seem to conclude from my statements. TBN is an important test to tell you have much life you have in the oil. Similarly, I don't find the viscosity test to be completely adequate. It doesn't tell you the actual viscosity, just the range it falls into, so you have no real way of knowing if the oil is thinning or thickening unless it does it enough to jump a viscosity grade. Recall that 5w-40 can actually be formulated thicker than 15w-40 because the grades overlap. On Sun, Apr 22, 2012 at 2:18 PM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: So show your data! No data means you got nuthin, you're just following that somebody else said that Mobil 1 has changed and isn't any good anymore. Why does my not having tested TBN make any difference? Besides with ultra low sulfur diesel TBN is less important than it used to be. Actually I was under the impression TBN was less important on diesels anyway. -Curt Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2012 11:29:13 -0600 From: Brian Toscano brian.tosc...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Diesel OIL again Message-ID: cacncphkxswri7r7vxysjeulzwnhdjadgmgttey2l9k1pxuj...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Thanks Curt, I don't see any point in furthering the discussion since you do not test for TBN. Thanks, Brian On Sun, Apr 22, 2012 at 7:51 AM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: Thanks for the offer Larry, I have a couple kits left, I'd like the long form next time if possible. How would I remind you of that? I'm still waiting for Brian to put up some data. He says Mobil 1 has changed and isn't as good. I provide data points spanning 6 years that says he's wrong, he just questions my data... -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Diesel OIL again
During the Oil Analysis test, the viscosity it tested at 100C. a 15W40 should test at 40W (not below, not above) at 100C after 4000-500 miles, perhaps more... The oil analysis report is broken into 3 basic parts - metal contamination - looking for excess copper, lead, iron, alum, etc, then there's the Additives section where the normal additives are shown with their levels. Finally theres the physical part where viscosity, grade, water presence, glycol presence, etc is shown. I can send more info if you;re interested in buying some kits? I can provide this info to anyone of course - which includes a sample Analysis report. The sample I use is a sanitized version of a real test - a long distance trucker gets his oil tested with me and I have a sample page with 5 or 6 tests on it. Sorry I'm getting to this late - LarryT 91 300D On 4/13/2012 11:55 AM, Brian Toscano wrote: What kind of viscosity is 40? Did they test it cold? On Fri, Apr 13, 2012 at 9:50 AM, Curt Raymondcurtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: I didn't do TBN, viscosity was 40 on both, M1 5w40 was the oil. -Curt Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2012 09:27:43 -0600 From: Brian Toscanobrian.tosc...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion Listmercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Diesel OIL again Message-ID: cacncphnznkvk28vp2fs4kf8p69guxoe+l5evy+6xxn4cmt7...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Viscosity and TBN? On Fri, Apr 13, 2012 at 9:24 AM, Curt Raymondcurtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: And where are your results pray tell? Upfront I'll admit I haven't done TBN tests. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Diesel OIL again
And where are your results pray tell? Upfront I'll admit I haven't done TBN tests. After 9700 miles 8/2012: / After 9920 miles 7/2007 Iron: 65 / 51 Copper: 2 / 3 Tin: 1 / 1 Aluminum: 5 / 4 Chromium: 5 / 3 Lead: 4 / 3 Silver: .1 / .1 Silicon: 9 / 3 Calcium: 1331 / 2173 Phosphorus: 1066 / 906 Zinc: 1299 / 1058 Soot: .5% / .4% It'll be interesting to see what the next sample shows since this was the first load of M1 I'd put in this car. The other car showed very high iron levels when I first started sampling which declined over time. I think the previous owner had allowed the engine to carbon up and hold iron in the carbon. Clean living and hard driving broke that all loose and dumped it in the oil for removal. -Curt Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2012 13:29:13 -0600 From: Brian Toscano brian.tosc...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Diesel OIL again Message-ID: CACnCPh=UAbYqrz=dKkARynrp_bNo_SYuTzYJu=hztngorqv...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Dave and I. Can you repost your OA results? On Thu, Apr 12, 2012 at 11:21 AM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: From where? I posted some numbers for M1 5w40 from my '84 190D that were pretty much exactly the same as my '85 190D back in '05-'06. -Curt Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2012 19:56:54 -0600 From: Brian Toscano brian.tosc...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Diesel OIL again Message-ID: cacncphkcqm9xceaajefqd-j+xfurvft9oibnhyooxw-vm_1...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 From some oil analysis results I've seen the Mobil 1 synthetic formulations do not hold up as well as they used to. I would be cautious against running it much longer than a mineral based 15w-40 unless you test for TBN and wear metals. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Diesel OIL again
Viscosity and TBN? On Fri, Apr 13, 2012 at 9:24 AM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: And where are your results pray tell? Upfront I'll admit I haven't done TBN tests. After 9700 miles 8/2012: / After 9920 miles 7/2007 Iron: 65 / 51 Copper: 2 / 3 Tin: 1 / 1 Aluminum: 5 / 4 Chromium: 5 / 3 Lead: 4 / 3 Silver: .1 / .1 Silicon: 9 / 3 Calcium: 1331 / 2173 Phosphorus: 1066 / 906 Zinc: 1299 / 1058 Soot: .5% / .4% It'll be interesting to see what the next sample shows since this was the first load of M1 I'd put in this car. The other car showed very high iron levels when I first started sampling which declined over time. I think the previous owner had allowed the engine to carbon up and hold iron in the carbon. Clean living and hard driving broke that all loose and dumped it in the oil for removal. -Curt Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2012 13:29:13 -0600 From: Brian Toscano brian.tosc...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Diesel OIL again Message-ID: CACnCPh=UAbYqrz=dKkARynrp_bNo_SYuTzYJu=hztngorqv...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Dave and I. Can you repost your OA results? On Thu, Apr 12, 2012 at 11:21 AM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: From where? I posted some numbers for M1 5w40 from my '84 190D that were pretty much exactly the same as my '85 190D back in '05-'06. -Curt Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2012 19:56:54 -0600 From: Brian Toscano brian.tosc...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Diesel OIL again Message-ID: cacncphkcqm9xceaajefqd-j+xfurvft9oibnhyooxw-vm_1...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 From some oil analysis results I've seen the Mobil 1 synthetic formulations do not hold up as well as they used to. I would be cautious against running it much longer than a mineral based 15w-40 unless you test for TBN and wear metals. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Diesel OIL again
I didn't do TBN, viscosity was 40 on both, M1 5w40 was the oil. -Curt Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2012 09:27:43 -0600 From: Brian Toscano brian.tosc...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Diesel OIL again Message-ID: cacncphnznkvk28vp2fs4kf8p69guxoe+l5evy+6xxn4cmt7...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Viscosity and TBN? On Fri, Apr 13, 2012 at 9:24 AM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: And where are your results pray tell? Upfront I'll admit I haven't done TBN tests. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Diesel OIL again
What kind of viscosity is 40? Did they test it cold? On Fri, Apr 13, 2012 at 9:50 AM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: I didn't do TBN, viscosity was 40 on both, M1 5w40 was the oil. -Curt Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2012 09:27:43 -0600 From: Brian Toscano brian.tosc...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Diesel OIL again Message-ID: cacncphnznkvk28vp2fs4kf8p69guxoe+l5evy+6xxn4cmt7...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Viscosity and TBN? On Fri, Apr 13, 2012 at 9:24 AM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: And where are your results pray tell? Upfront I'll admit I haven't done TBN tests. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Diesel OIL again
No idea. Larry? Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2012 09:55:55 -0600 From: Brian Toscano brian.tosc...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Diesel OIL again Message-ID: cacncphkudn3cxmfbn0sleozdvyoc5yk0vfnnzwmpu+qhxn+...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 What kind of viscosity is 40? Did they test it cold? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Diesel OIL again
I haven't bought oil at the Mart in years. Autozone carries M1 5w40 which despite persistent rumors to the contrary tests today pretty much the same way it did in '06. Once I get the cooler lines replaced on my 240D it'll join the 190D in using that. My local Car Quest will order in pretty much anything I want although at a premium price. -Curt Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2012 18:13:23 -0400 From: Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] Diesel OIL again Message-ID: 4f860203.6000...@constructivity.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Not to belabor this but it appears the 15W50 Mobil 1 is no longer available at El Mercado de Wal. They have other flavors and weights. I don't recall seeing specifically if they have diesel oil (wasn't there a truck and turbodiesel oil?). They have Delvac and Delo which were earlier said to be fine. I am going by there tomorrow and want to get oil so tell me which one I should get. All the oil talk got me confused. --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Diesel OIL again
From where? I posted some numbers for M1 5w40 from my '84 190D that were pretty much exactly the same as my '85 190D back in '05-'06. -Curt Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2012 19:56:54 -0600 From: Brian Toscano brian.tosc...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Diesel OIL again Message-ID: cacncphkcqm9xceaajefqd-j+xfurvft9oibnhyooxw-vm_1...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 From some oil analysis results I've seen the Mobil 1 synthetic formulations do not hold up as well as they used to. I would be cautious against running it much longer than a mineral based 15w-40 unless you test for TBN and wear metals. On Wed, Apr 11, 2012 at 7:27 PM, Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu wrote: Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net writes: They have Delvac and Delo which were earlier said to be fine. They are fine for an OM-617 but they are not synthetic, so you'll need to change sooner. Allan -- 1983 300D 1979 300SD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Diesel OIL again
I have a hard time finding M1 5W40 at Walmart in Massachusetts but it's readily available in the Walmart that I frequent in Maine. Helluva lot cheaper than autozone/advance unless they are running some M1 special which is rare. Sent from my iPhone On Apr 12, 2012, at 12:55 PM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: I haven't bought oil at the Mart in years. Autozone carries M1 5w40 which despite persistent rumors to the contrary tests today pretty much the same way it did in '06. Once I get the cooler lines replaced on my 240D it'll join the 190D in using that. My local Car Quest will order in pretty much anything I want although at a premium price. -Curt Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2012 18:13:23 -0400 From: Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] Diesel OIL again Message-ID: 4f860203.6000...@constructivity.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Not to belabor this but it appears the 15W50 Mobil 1 is no longer available at El Mercado de Wal. They have other flavors and weights. I don't recall seeing specifically if they have diesel oil (wasn't there a truck and turbodiesel oil?). They have Delvac and Delo which were earlier said to be fine. I am going by there tomorrow and want to get oil so tell me which one I should get. All the oil talk got me confused. --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Diesel OIL again
Dave and I. Can you repost your OA results? On Thu, Apr 12, 2012 at 11:21 AM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: From where? I posted some numbers for M1 5w40 from my '84 190D that were pretty much exactly the same as my '85 190D back in '05-'06. -Curt Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2012 19:56:54 -0600 From: Brian Toscano brian.tosc...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Diesel OIL again Message-ID: cacncphkcqm9xceaajefqd-j+xfurvft9oibnhyooxw-vm_1...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 From some oil analysis results I've seen the Mobil 1 synthetic formulations do not hold up as well as they used to. I would be cautious against running it much longer than a mineral based 15w-40 unless you test for TBN and wear metals. On Wed, Apr 11, 2012 at 7:27 PM, Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu wrote: Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net writes: They have Delvac and Delo which were earlier said to be fine. They are fine for an OM-617 but they are not synthetic, so you'll need to change sooner. Allan -- 1983 300D 1979 300SD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Diesel OIL again
I bought some Mobil Delvac 1300, $13some a gallon. I got some Ext life Mobil 1 5W30 for my truck, it was like $30 for 5qt. --R On 4/12/12 12:55 PM, Curt Raymond wrote: I haven't bought oil at the Mart in years. Autozone carries M1 5w40 which despite persistent rumors to the contrary tests today pretty much the same way it did in '06. Once I get the cooler lines replaced on my 240D it'll join the 190D in using that. My local Car Quest will order in pretty much anything I want although at a premium price. -Curt Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2012 18:13:23 -0400 From: Rich Thomasrichthomas79td...@constructivity.net To: Mercedes Discussion Listmercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] Diesel OIL again Message-ID:4f860203.6000...@constructivity.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Not to belabor this but it appears the 15W50 Mobil 1 is no longer available at El Mercado de Wal. They have other flavors and weights. I don't recall seeing specifically if they have diesel oil (wasn't there a truck and turbodiesel oil?). They have Delvac and Delo which were earlier said to be fine. I am going by there tomorrow and want to get oil so tell me which one I should get. All the oil talk got me confused. --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Diesel OIL again
Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net writes: They have Delvac and Delo which were earlier said to be fine. They are fine for an OM-617 but they are not synthetic, so you'll need to change sooner. Allan -- 1983 300D 1979 300SD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
