Re: [MBZ] Heat AC Failure monovalve

2006-10-18 Thread Peter Frederick
A bad diaphram will do several things -- it is resistant to flexing when 
installed, so the valve won't open and close on demand, tending to stay in one 
position or the other (that is, too much heat, not enough), it won't seal 
correctly when closed (too much heat, a real pain in the summer), and it will 
leak into the solenoid coil and corrode it, causing the valve to stick even 
more and eventually fail.  This can cook some PBCUs.  

Cheap and easy enough in a W126, no reason not to spend the $30 or so.  Ditto 
for a thermostat -- if it won't come up to temp quickly under load in the 
winter, replace the thermostat.  Cheap, fairly easy, make a huge difference.

Note that a 603 in bitter cold weather will NOT come up to operating 
temperature at light load no matter how long you idle it.  I've been stuck by a 
train and sat there watching the temp gauge slowly fall while I froze...

Peter

-Original Message-
From: M.Afzaal.Khan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Oct 18, 2006 1:42 AM
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Subject: [MBZ] Heat  AC Failure   monovalve


Ok Its better now we know the car  model !  As  mentioned
earlier on ,first replace the monovalve then check for other faults,which
simply may not exist after the monovalve has been replaced.

i had a similar fault   with varied a/c symptoms ,all was  normal after
replacing  only the monovalve.  (worn diaphragm)
mak
 300SE/1990


 That last posting regarding heat and AC failure - the car is a 1990 300SE
 thanks,
 les

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Re: [MBZ] Heat AC Failure monovalve

2006-10-18 Thread andrew strasfogel

$30??  I think not!  Best price on a monovalve has climbed into the mid $40s
as of last month.

On 10/18/06, Peter Frederick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


A bad diaphram will do several things -- it is resistant to flexing when
installed, so the valve won't open and close on demand, tending to stay in
one position or the other (that is, too much heat, not enough), it won't
seal correctly when closed (too much heat, a real pain in the summer), and
it will leak into the solenoid coil and corrode it, causing the valve to
stick even more and eventually fail.  This can cook some PBCUs.

Cheap and easy enough in a W126, no reason not to spend the $30 or
so.  Ditto for a thermostat -- if it won't come up to temp quickly under
load in the winter, replace the thermostat.  Cheap, fairly easy, make a huge
difference.

Note that a 603 in bitter cold weather will NOT come up to operating
temperature at light load no matter how long you idle it.  I've been stuck
by a train and sat there watching the temp gauge slowly fall while I
froze...

Peter

-Original Message-
From: M.Afzaal.Khan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Oct 18, 2006 1:42 AM
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Subject: [MBZ] Heat  AC Failure   monovalve


Ok Its better now we know the car  model !  As  mentioned
earlier on ,first replace the monovalve then check for other faults,which
simply may not exist after the monovalve has been replaced.

i had a similar fault   with varied a/c symptoms ,all was  normal after
replacing  only the monovalve.  (worn diaphragm)
mak
 300SE/1990


 That last posting regarding heat and AC failure - the car is a 1990
300SE
 thanks,
 les

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Re: [MBZ] Heat AC Failure monovalve

2006-10-18 Thread Rusty
Nope. AutohausAZ, the Bosch whores of America, have them for $35.91
which is exactly $7.60 below my cost. These guys are idiots.

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of andrew strasfogel
Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2006 11:47 AM
To: Peter Frederick; Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Heat  AC Failure monovalve

$30??  I think not!  Best price on a monovalve has climbed into the mid
$40s
as of last month.

On 10/18/06, Peter Frederick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 A bad diaphram will do several things -- it is resistant to flexing
when
 installed, so the valve won't open and close on demand, tending to
stay in
 one position or the other (that is, too much heat, not enough), it
won't
 seal correctly when closed (too much heat, a real pain in the summer),
and
 it will leak into the solenoid coil and corrode it, causing the valve
to
 stick even more and eventually fail.  This can cook some PBCUs.

 Cheap and easy enough in a W126, no reason not to spend the $30 or
 so.  Ditto for a thermostat -- if it won't come up to temp quickly
under
 load in the winter, replace the thermostat.  Cheap, fairly easy, make
a huge
 difference.

 Note that a 603 in bitter cold weather will NOT come up to operating
 temperature at light load no matter how long you idle it.  I've been
stuck
 by a train and sat there watching the temp gauge slowly fall while I
 froze...

 Peter

 -Original Message-
 From: M.Afzaal.Khan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Oct 18, 2006 1:42 AM
 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
 Subject: [MBZ] Heat  AC Failure   monovalve
 
 
 Ok Its better now we know the car  model !  As  mentioned
 earlier on ,first replace the monovalve then check for other
faults,which
 simply may not exist after the monovalve has been replaced.
 
 i had a similar fault   with varied a/c symptoms ,all was  normal
after
 replacing  only the monovalve.  (worn diaphragm)
 mak
  300SE/1990
 
 
  That last posting regarding heat and AC failure - the car is a 1990
 300SE
  thanks,
  les
 
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Re: [MBZ] Heat AC Failure monovalve

2006-10-18 Thread Rick Knoble

Nope. AutohausAZ, the Bosch whores of America, have them for $35.91
which is exactly $7.60 below my cost. These guys are idiots.


How can they stay in business losing money? Perhaps they are in the money 
laundering business with parts as a sideline.?

Rick Knoble
'85 300 CD
'87 190 DT 





Re: [MBZ] Heat AC Failure monovalve

2006-10-18 Thread Trampas
Well we know where you will be buying yours from...

Trampas

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On Behalf Of Rusty
Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2006 11:54 AM
To: 'Mercedes Discussion List'
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Heat  AC Failure monovalve

Nope. AutohausAZ, the Bosch whores of America, have them for $35.91
which is exactly $7.60 below my cost. These guys are idiots.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of andrew strasfogel
Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2006 11:47 AM
To: Peter Frederick; Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Heat  AC Failure monovalve

$30??  I think not!  Best price on a monovalve has climbed into the mid
$40s
as of last month.

On 10/18/06, Peter Frederick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 A bad diaphram will do several things -- it is resistant to flexing
when
 installed, so the valve won't open and close on demand, tending to
stay in
 one position or the other (that is, too much heat, not enough), it
won't
 seal correctly when closed (too much heat, a real pain in the summer),
and
 it will leak into the solenoid coil and corrode it, causing the valve
to
 stick even more and eventually fail.  This can cook some PBCUs.

 Cheap and easy enough in a W126, no reason not to spend the $30 or
 so.  Ditto for a thermostat -- if it won't come up to temp quickly
under
 load in the winter, replace the thermostat.  Cheap, fairly easy, make
a huge
 difference.

 Note that a 603 in bitter cold weather will NOT come up to operating
 temperature at light load no matter how long you idle it.  I've been
stuck
 by a train and sat there watching the temp gauge slowly fall while I
 froze...

 Peter

 -Original Message-
 From: M.Afzaal.Khan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Oct 18, 2006 1:42 AM
 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
 Subject: [MBZ] Heat  AC Failure   monovalve
 
 
 Ok Its better now we know the car  model !  As  mentioned
 earlier on ,first replace the monovalve then check for other
faults,which
 simply may not exist after the monovalve has been replaced.
 
 i had a similar fault   with varied a/c symptoms ,all was  normal
after
 replacing  only the monovalve.  (worn diaphragm)
 mak
  300SE/1990
 
 
  That last posting regarding heat and AC failure - the car is a 1990
 300SE
  thanks,
  les
 
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