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A flattened BLIMP Oh if only my laughs could power my car, it would drive it 300 miles down to the GORGE on that one alone! HAR HAR! Lynn On 4/28/06, andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There is no disputing [my] taste. The 126 looks like a flattened blimp. The 123 is at worst, inoffensive. The 123 300TD is audaciously retro-looking.
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A 300 SCD would be a dream car! Chris OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think the 126 SEC is the best looking MB short of the C111 --- too bad it didn't come with a nice 603 engine. Maybe some day I'll find the right car, right engine, spare cash, and lots of time on my hands -- My SLC would look better if it had the pagoda roof line -- -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK The Americans will always do the right thing... after they've exhausted all the alternatives. Sir Winston Churchill '90 300D 243K, Rattled '87 300SDL 290K, Limo Lite, or blue car '81 240D 173K, Gramps, or yellow car '78 450SLC 67K, brown car '97 Ply Grand Voyager 78K Van Go ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net Christopher McCann, Squier Park, Kansas City, Missouri -2005 Blue Point Siamese, Rose -1987 300TD, 152K, Rotkäppchen -1985 300SD, 213K, Wulf -1972 Jacobsen 21 Turbo Vent -1971 Case 222 Hydrive, 12HP Kohler, 38 deck, Snowcaster, One Banger - New Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. Call regular phones from your PC and save big. From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sat Apr 29 03:07:41 2006 Received: from pop-canoe.atl.sa.earthlink.net ([207.69.195.66]) by server5.arterytc5.net with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FZfo5-0006M1-5I for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Sat, 29 Apr 2006 03:07:41 + Received: from dialup-4.224.39.96.dial1.cincinnati1.level3.net ([4.224.39.96] helo=earthlink.net) by pop-canoe.atl.sa.earthlink.net with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #10) id 1FZfo0-cs-00 for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Fri, 28 Apr 2006 23:07:37 -0400 Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2006 22:00:07 -0500 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v553) From: Peter Frederick [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-Id: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.553) X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Subject: Re: [MBZ] Oil dipstick level X-BeenThere: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Id: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes_striplin.net.striplin.net List-Unsubscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: http://striplin.net/pipermail/mercedes_striplin.net List-Post: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 29 Apr 2006 03:07:41 - Higher than the top mark and the oil may get thrashed by the crank, foam out the breather, and cause oil foam to get pumped to the bearings. All bad. This can also cause impact damage to the crank. Below the bottom mark and you don't have enough oil reserve, it will run hotter, and you risk reduced engine life. Most MB engines will burn off oil near the top mark, although not all do. If you have one of those, and insist on the oil being at the top mark, you can use upwards of a quart in 300 miles filling it up only to have the engine get rid of it pronto. I don't not know where it goes (that is is it burned internally or does it just end up in the air filter housing), but it's well known to most of us. If the level drops rapidly to about half way between the marks and then stays there, don't add to get it to the top mark, wait until it's lower. Only add oil when it reached the lower mark, and don't fill it all the way up -- one quart will do. Those are maximum and minimum volume marks, not recommended levels. Peter
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You found two cars worth of parts, I'll build them, you get one, I get the other. On 4/28/06, Christopher McCann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A 300 SCD would be a dream car! Chris -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK The Americans will always do the right thing... after they've exhausted all the alternatives. Sir Winston Churchill '90 300D 243K, Rattled '87 300SDL 290K, Limo Lite, or blue car '81 240D 173K, Gramps, or yellow car '78 450SLC 67K, brown car '97 Ply Grand Voyager 78K Van Go
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Make the FUND, not FOUND -- On 4/28/06, OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You found two cars worth of parts, I'll build them, you get one, I get the other. On 4/28/06, Christopher McCann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A 300 SCD would be a dream car! Chris -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK The Americans will always do the right thing... after they've exhausted all the alternatives. Sir Winston Churchill '90 300D 243K, Rattled '87 300SDL 290K, Limo Lite, or blue car '81 240D 173K, Gramps, or yellow car '78 450SLC 67K, brown car '97 Ply Grand Voyager 78K Van Go
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On Fri, 28 Apr 2006 08:13:38 -0700 ms.300SD [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You've got a 123 chassis, and the 300SD is a 126 chassis. The 126 is more luxurious, has a cushier ride and a sleeker, more elegant look. See: www.viewimages.mbz.org/by_chassis/Coupe/ When I try to go there, it says the site cannot be found. Craig
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I found the images pages from www.mbz.org, then clicking images on the left side - but I never found any - I was looking in the 126 section. www.viewimages.mbz.org/by_chassis/Coupe/ When I try to go there, it says the site cannot be found. Craig -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK The Americans will always do the right thing... after they've exhausted all the alternatives. Sir Winston Churchill '90 300D 243K, Rattled '87 300SDL 290K, Limo Lite, or blue car '81 240D 173K, Gramps, or yellow car '78 450SLC 67K, brown car '97 Ply Grand Voyager 78K Van Go
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You mean an SDC would be ecstasy? Rick Knoble '85 300 CD '87 190 DT - Original Message - From: Christopher McCann [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, April 28, 2006 10:06 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] I love my 126 A 300 SCD would be a dream car! Chris OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think the 126 SEC is the best looking MB short of the C111 --- too bad it didn't come with a nice 603 engine. Maybe some day I'll find the right car, right engine, spare cash, and lots of time on my hands -- My SLC would look better if it had the pagoda roof line -- -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK The Americans will always do the right thing... after they've exhausted all the alternatives. Sir Winston Churchill '90 300D 243K, Rattled '87 300SDL 290K, Limo Lite, or blue car '81 240D 173K, Gramps, or yellow car '78 450SLC 67K, brown car '97 Ply Grand Voyager 78K Van Go ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net Christopher McCann, Squier Park, Kansas City, Missouri -2005 Blue Point Siamese, Rose -1987 300TD, 152K, Rotkäppchen -1985 300SD, 213K, Wulf -1972 Jacobsen 21 Turbo Vent -1971 Case 222 Hydrive, 12HP Kohler, 38 deck, Snowcaster, One Banger - New Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. Call regular phones from your PC and save big. ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
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Second that! On Fri, 28 Apr 2006 22:06:16 -0500, Christopher McCann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A 300 SCD would be a dream car! Chris OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think the 126 SEC is the best looking MB short of the C111 --- too bad it didn't come with a nice 603 engine. Maybe some day I'll find the right car, right engine, spare cash, and lots of time on my hands -- My SLC would look better if it had the pagoda roof line -- -- Luther KB5QHU Alma, Ark '83 300SD (231,xxx kmi) '82 300CD (159,xxx kmi) '82 300D (74,000 kmi) needs MAJOR work
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On second thought, a 124 300CD would be 1000 times better. Intercooled OM 60x powered, 500E/AMG suspension. M What'd I miss Dave M? On Fri, 28 Apr 2006 23:14:38 -0500, Luther Gulseth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Second that! On Fri, 28 Apr 2006 22:06:16 -0500, Christopher McCann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A 300 SCD would be a dream car! Chris OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think the 126 SEC is the best looking MB short of the C111 --- too bad it didn't come with a nice 603 engine. Maybe some day I'll find the right car, right engine, spare cash, and lots of time on my hands -- My SLC would look better if it had the pagoda roof line -- -- Luther KB5QHU Alma, Ark '83 300SD (231,xxx kmi) '82 300CD (159,xxx kmi) '82 300D (74,000 kmi) needs MAJOR work
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You mean an SDC would be ecstasy? Now that's funny! Kevin in HIllsboro Oregon Giesela, 1981 300CD 204K miles
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Don't have extra funds right now :-( Chris OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Make the FUND, not FOUND -- On 4/28/06, OK Don wrote: You found two cars worth of parts, I'll build them, you get one, I get the other. On 4/28/06, Christopher McCann wrote: A 300 SCD would be a dream car! Chris -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK The Americans will always do the right thing... after they've exhausted all the alternatives. Sir Winston Churchill '90 300D 243K, Rattled '87 300SDL 290K, Limo Lite, or blue car '81 240D 173K, Gramps, or yellow car '78 450SLC 67K, brown car '97 Ply Grand Voyager 78K Van Go ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net Christopher McCann, Squier Park, Kansas City, Missouri -2005 Blue Point Siamese, Rose -1987 300TD, 152K, Rotkäppchen -1985 300SD, 213K, Wulf -1972 Jacobsen 21 Turbo Vent -1971 Case 222 Hydrive, 12HP Kohler, 38 deck, Snowcaster, One Banger - Love cheap thrills? Enjoy PC-to-Phone calls to 30+ countries for just 2¢/min with Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sat Apr 29 04:34:58 2006 Received: from web30003.mail.mud.yahoo.com ([68.142.200.66]) by server5.arterytc5.net with smtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FZhAW-0008QM-El for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Sat, 29 Apr 2006 04:34:58 + Received: (qmail 1067 invoked by uid 60001); 29 Apr 2006 04:34:52 - DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=B1f5XzuhnEZ/G/FjEOKFaegRwU1Js2+cawiNnnsW4kSCkfugFvbshkU3CNlrO3Br58QTDV4CT1xkXQp+qCYfvgiEWNcIAgJV1aVBEB9+p7Xk7Xnz+GND+TI2QJC+ZhrmhGr1uHQq4tnA14nNZE29qT1FV2w0lxYnyhelK3U2IIs= ; Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: from [67.52.19.222] by web30003.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 28 Apr 2006 21:34:52 PDT Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2006 21:34:52 -0700 (PDT) From: Christopher McCann [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.6 Subject: Re: [MBZ] I love my 126 X-BeenThere: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Id: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes_striplin.net.striplin.net List-Unsubscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: http://striplin.net/pipermail/mercedes_striplin.net List-Post: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 29 Apr 2006 04:34:58 - Well, a W123 300CD is coupe-diesel. An S class would be 300 SCD BUT a W126 SEC...E for Einspritzung, replace with D = SDC. So I guess it could go either way. CM Rick Knoble [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You mean an SDC would be ecstasy? Rick Knoble '85 300 CD '87 190 DT - Original Message - From: Christopher McCann To: Mercedes Discussion List Sent: Friday, April 28, 2006 10:06 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] I love my 126 A 300 SCD would be a dream car! Chris OK Don wrote: I think the 126 SEC is the best looking MB short of the C111 --- too bad it didn't come with a nice 603 engine. Maybe some day I'll find the right car, right engine, spare cash, and lots of time on my hands -- My SLC would look better if it had the pagoda roof line -- -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK The Americans will always do the right thing... after they've exhausted all the alternatives. Sir Winston Churchill '90 300D 243K, Rattled '87 300SDL 290K, Limo Lite, or blue car '81 240D 173K, Gramps, or yellow car '78 450SLC 67K, brown car '97 Ply Grand Voyager 78K Van Go ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net Christopher McCann, Squier Park, Kansas City, Missouri -2005 Blue Point Siamese, Rose -1987 300TD, 152K, Rotkäppchen -1985 300SD, 213K, Wulf -1972 Jacobsen 21 Turbo Vent -1971 Case 222 Hydrive, 12HP Kohler, 38 deck, Snowcaster, One Banger - New Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. Call regular phones from your PC and save big. ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http
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Okay, Levi, you have your opinion, but here's mine. Subarus are UULLLY. 300SD are the most beautiful car EVER made by anyone. I just feel all luxurious and ensconced in the Beauty Car whenever I drive it. I love to float down the freeway and drive 300 miles then hop out of the car all fresh like a flower. Of course, it has had the maintenance it deserves, like new suspension and everything but the steering box, and I'm getting a new one for my birthday this summer. (Yay!) Comparing a subaru and a mercedes 300SD is like comparing a teenage boy to Miss America. It's just too bizarre for words. Lynn '85 300SD Victoria 206K
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That is worthy of a quotes page! On Thu, 27 Apr 2006 20:33:50 -0500, ms.300SD [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip Comparing a subaru and a mercedes 300SD is like comparing a teenage boy to Miss America. It's just too bizarre for words. Lynn '85 300SD Victoria 206K -- Luther KB5QHU Alma, Ark '83 300SD (231,xxx kmi) '82 300CD (159,xxx kmi) '82 300D (74,000 kmi) needs MAJOR work
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I agree. KALEB! You have some votes! At 09:20 PM 4/27/2006, you wrote: That is worthy of a quotes page! On Thu, 27 Apr 2006 20:33:50 -0500, ms.300SD [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip Comparing a subaru and a mercedes 300SD is like comparing a teenage boy to Miss America. It's just too bizarre for words. Lynn '85 300SD Victoria 206K -- Luther KB5QHU Alma, Ark '83 300SD (231,xxx kmi) '82 300CD (159,xxx kmi) '82 300D (74,000 kmi) needs MAJOR work ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
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so by that rationale, is a 124 a fitness model? Aerobics instructor? On 4/27/06, Loren Faeth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I agree. KALEB! You have some votes! At 09:20 PM 4/27/2006, you wrote: That is worthy of a quotes page! On Thu, 27 Apr 2006 20:33:50 -0500, ms.300SD [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip Comparing a subaru and a mercedes 300SD is like comparing a teenage boy to Miss America. It's just too bizarre for words. Lynn '85 300SD Victoria 206K -- Luther KB5QHU Alma, Ark '83 300SD (231,xxx kmi) '82 300CD (159,xxx kmi) '82 300D (74,000 kmi) needs MAJOR work ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Sunil Hari 1992 300D 2.5T - 286Kmi. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 513-205-7474
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Sunil, I think she's the gymnastics team captain that some guys lust after. Ms. 300SD has better jewelry and more assets, though. Lynn
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That is a great analogy for the 124! This thread is getting very entertaining! At 11:16 PM 4/27/2006, you wrote: Sunil, I think she's the gymnastics team captain that some guys lust after. Ms. 300SD has better jewelry and more assets, though. Lynn ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
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Ooohh, man, I didn't even mention looks... I'm not positive what a 300SD looks like, but if it's anything like my 83' 300D, I know there are people that think they're beautiful, but I certainly can't see it! I do love the looks of my Subaru. My wife even agrees. She loves her Subaru and calls the Benz the mafia-mobile and not in an endearing term. (: But yes, above all else, we are all entitled to our opinions! (: Levi On 4/27/06, ms. 300SD [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Okay, Levi, you have your opinion, but here's mine. Subarus are UULLLY. 300SD are the most beautiful car EVER made by anyone. I just feel all luxurious and ensconced in the Beauty Car whenever I drive it. I love to float down the freeway and drive 300 miles then hop out of the car all fresh like a flower. Of course, it has had the maintenance it deserves, like new suspension and everything but the steering box, and I'm getting a new one for my birthday this summer. (Yay!) Comparing a subaru and a mercedes 300SD is like comparing a teenage boy to Miss America. It's just too bizarre for words. Lynn '85 300SD Victoria 206K ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
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Hmm, I'm picturing my 83' 300D as more of the old-school russian women's weight-lifting team with a bit of a mustache Levi (: On 4/28/06, ms. 300SD [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sunil, I think she's the gymnastics team captain that some guys lust after. Ms. 300SD has better jewelry and more assets, though. Lynn ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
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You've got a 123 chassis, and the 300SD is a 126 chassis. The 126 is more luxurious, has a cushier ride and a sleeker, more elegant look. See: www.viewimages.mbz.org/by_chassis/Coupe/ Scroll down and see the more modern cars. Lynn
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You've got a 123 chassis, and the 300SD is a 126 chassis. The 126 is more luxurious, has a cushier ride and a sleeker, more elegant look. Whereas I'd give the edge in appearance to the 123. De gustibus non disputandum. We love our SDL nonetheless. I think a 116 is a mighty fine looking car, myself. Don't have any though, I'm holding out for a 6.9 I guess. I've passed up several 6.9's offered locally, I guess I want one that's actually got a M100 engine in it! -- Jim
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There is no disputing [my] taste. The 126 looks like a flattened blimp. The 123 is at worst, inoffensive. The 123 300TD is audaciously retro-looking. On 4/28/06, Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You've got a 123 chassis, and the 300SD is a 126 chassis. The 126 is more luxurious, has a cushier ride and a sleeker, more elegant look. Whereas I'd give the edge in appearance to the 123. De gustibus non disputandum. We love our SDL nonetheless. I think a 116 is a mighty fine looking car, myself. Don't have any though, I'm holding out for a 6.9 I guess. I've passed up several 6.9's offered locally, I guess I want one that's actually got a M100 engine in it! -- Jim ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
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On 4/26/06, Donald Snook [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You are comparing the worn out horse hair seats of your 83 123 with the seats in a 97 Subaru? I bet the seats in a 97 KIA would feel better. Think about how much butt time has been spent in that Benz. Come on, wait until the Subaru seats have 350,000 miles on them. And you are complaining about a 123 diesel being slow as compared to a 1997 car. Sure, I am positive your 123 will not be a fast as your Subaru. You are not comparing apples to apples. You are comparing apples to refrigerators. These two cars are VERY different. Nor is it fair to compare the handling in low-traction situations of a car with a superbly engineered AWD system, limited slip, and Blizzaks against a RWD car with (presumably) all-season tires! Nothing handles better than a late-model Sube in snow except an Audi. But put those Blizzaks on the 300D and it'll do better than just about any FWD car, and maybe even better than the Sube with summer tires. Alex Chamberlain '87 300D Turbo '93 Isuzu Trooper
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I always get the question as to why the W126. My response is that if you drive it for a month your butt will not get out of it. My wife when we were dating had a Honda Accord, she let her parents borrow the car for a couple of week while she drove my 300SD. The whole time she complained about the size, how slow it was, how hard it was to park, etc, I just laughed. She got her car back, drove out of her parents driveway, got about a block, turned around drove back and parked the Honda and got back into the 300SD. Her words were I felt like I was in a tin coffin. Now the only time she complains is when the cars break on her. Trampas -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alex Chamberlain Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2006 7:21 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] I love my 126 On 4/26/06, Donald Snook [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You are comparing the worn out horse hair seats of your 83 123 with the seats in a 97 Subaru? I bet the seats in a 97 KIA would feel better. Think about how much butt time has been spent in that Benz. Come on, wait until the Subaru seats have 350,000 miles on them. And you are complaining about a 123 diesel being slow as compared to a 1997 car. Sure, I am positive your 123 will not be a fast as your Subaru. You are not comparing apples to apples. You are comparing apples to refrigerators. These two cars are VERY different. Nor is it fair to compare the handling in low-traction situations of a car with a superbly engineered AWD system, limited slip, and Blizzaks against a RWD car with (presumably) all-season tires! Nothing handles better than a late-model Sube in snow except an Audi. But put those Blizzaks on the 300D and it'll do better than just about any FWD car, and maybe even better than the Sube with summer tires. Alex Chamberlain '87 300D Turbo '93 Isuzu Trooper ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
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It is the my new windows machine is way faster than a mac argument, not bothering to clarify that the Mac was 7 years old, never had a component fail and the hard drive was full and was never defragmented. At 05:32 PM 4/26/2006, you wrote: Levi Smith wrote: The seats are nice and firm, supportive and comfortable in my Sube. I find the ones in the Benz to have every disadvantage of a bench seat. It feels like I'm riding on a worse/worn out version of the vinyl bench seat in an 80' Dodge truck. Given my springs are probably weak, but I want seats that are firm, not springy, and with side bolsters for support, not just slidy. The only slight advantage here is that the Tex is probably easier to clean. Now Come on - are you serious? You are comparing the worn out horse hair seats of your 83 123 with the seats in a 97 Subaru? I bet the seats in a 97 KIA would feel better. Think about how much butt time has been spent in that Benz. Come on, wait until the Subaru seats have 350,000 miles on them. And you are complaining about a 123 diesel being slow as compared to a 1997 car. Sure, I am positive your 123 will not be a fast as your Subaru. You are not comparing apples to apples. You are comparing apples to refrigerators. These two cars are VERY different. Not trying to start a flame, but I just thought it was a really bad argument to compare the two cars. Donald H. Snook 1990 300SEL ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
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Levi Smith wrote: Perhaps my Benz' handling is not what it once was, but it doesn't hold a candle to my Sube. The 300D isn't horrible, but it weighs about 25% more and has enough of that boaty ok, I'm gonna make a turn feeling, that I feel like racecar man once I'm in the sube. Never driven a Subaru, but I'd sum up the diesel W123 as follows: - Sounds like a truck. - Steers like a truck. - Rides like a luxury car. David Brodbeck '83 300D Turbo
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Well, I just compared them as best I could, as it seems like what I read on this list is that almost any Mercedes of any vintage is better than almost any other car. I don't doubt the age has a lot to do with it. Though both cars have a lot of mileage. The Sube has 220K miles on it... (i.e. a lot of butts in them) As to the seats, I can't possibly see how even if the seats were brand new they would have any more side support. There's just nothing there. It's like a flat bench seat on the bottom. And I get the impression that even when new they're made to be springy. But that could be an entirely incorrect thought. As to the power, I said that the 123 actually feels near as fast as the Sube on a good day. My Sube only had 137hp when new, so it's probably a semi-close match given the extra torque the diesel has... Of course if you try to climb a hill from a dead stop, the Benz won't come close since the gears seem to be spaced out wrong for that scenario. I'm not saying the cars are the same, but that just seems to be the impression I get on here. Something like I just drove/saw a brand new Toyota, and it's way worse than my 76' 240D. So, I just thought I'd throw in my opinion. I'm not trying to start a flame war either. I'm actually surprised I didn't get a worse response! (: Levi On 4/26/06, Donald Snook [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Levi Smith wrote: The seats are nice and firm, supportive and comfortable in my Sube. I find the ones in the Benz to have every disadvantage of a bench seat. It feels like I'm riding on a worse/worn out version of the vinyl bench seat in an 80' Dodge truck. Given my springs are probably weak, but I want seats that are firm, not springy, and with side bolsters for support, not just slidy. The only slight advantage here is that the Tex is probably easier to clean. Now Come on - are you serious? You are comparing the worn out horse hair seats of your 83 123 with the seats in a 97 Subaru? I bet the seats in a 97 KIA would feel better. Think about how much butt time has been spent in that Benz. Come on, wait until the Subaru seats have 350,000 miles on them. And you are complaining about a 123 diesel being slow as compared to a 1997 car. Sure, I am positive your 123 will not be a fast as your Subaru. You are not comparing apples to apples. You are comparing apples to refrigerators. These two cars are VERY different. Not trying to start a flame, but I just thought it was a really bad argument to compare the two cars. Donald H. Snook 1990 300SEL ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
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No, I agree, it's not a fair comparison. Just my observations when I feel like all I hear is that oh, we don't need anything other than RWD, it gets through anything. Heck, I'm still hearing it now... I'd love to drive a 300D and a good fwd car both with Blizzaks on and see how they compare. Or against the Sube with good all season tires. I know the Blizzaks make a big difference, but I just can't see them making the physical differences you're describing. Or perhaps it's all just a matter of personal taste as to which is preferable... Levi (: On 4/26/06, Alex Chamberlain [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 4/26/06, Donald Snook [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You are comparing the worn out horse hair seats of your 83 123 with the seats in a 97 Subaru? I bet the seats in a 97 KIA would feel better. Think about how much butt time has been spent in that Benz. Come on, wait until the Subaru seats have 350,000 miles on them. And you are complaining about a 123 diesel being slow as compared to a 1997 car. Sure, I am positive your 123 will not be a fast as your Subaru. You are not comparing apples to apples. You are comparing apples to refrigerators. These two cars are VERY different. Nor is it fair to compare the handling in low-traction situations of a car with a superbly engineered AWD system, limited slip, and Blizzaks against a RWD car with (presumably) all-season tires! Nothing handles better than a late-model Sube in snow except an Audi. But put those Blizzaks on the 300D and it'll do better than just about any FWD car, and maybe even better than the Sube with summer tires. Alex Chamberlain '87 300D Turbo '93 Isuzu Trooper ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
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No doubt, the 300D would be better newer. I'd love to try one that I knew had proper suspension and steering to see if my butt thinks it's as good as I hear it is. However, as to the maintenance (again, hard to quantify since the Benz is older, and there are unknown maintenance periods on both cars), Not counting fluids and wear items (tires, brakes) I got my Subaru with 92K miles on it about 5 or 6 years ago. It's needed a $120 alternator, a $7 radiator cap... That's about it. I think I replaced a crank seal at one point, but that just left a little spot on the pavement when parked and if we're counting that, then there's a BUNCH of seals that need to be replaced on the Benz. It marks numerous spots. The Benz has needed an axleshaft... hmm, well there's a decent amount of other things I've done/replaced, (transmission is hard shifting and clunky/jerky as someone who doesn't know how to drive a stick, climate control kinda works, tach is dead, thermostat replaced, suspension probably could use some updating...) but again, it doesn't lead to any real evidence since it's so much older and with another 100K miles. (though if I had to bet on it at this point, if both were actually driven (one of them ends up sitting for 6 months at a time), I'd bet on the Subaru having less costs over the next 100K miles... Levi On 4/26/06, Loren Faeth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It is the my new windows machine is way faster than a mac argument, not bothering to clarify that the Mac was 7 years old, never had a component fail and the hard drive was full and was never defragmented. At 05:32 PM 4/26/2006, you wrote: Levi Smith wrote: The seats are nice and firm, supportive and comfortable in my Sube. I find the ones in the Benz to have every disadvantage of a bench seat. It feels like I'm riding on a worse/worn out version of the vinyl bench seat in an 80' Dodge truck. Given my springs are probably weak, but I want seats that are firm, not springy, and with side bolsters for support, not just slidy. The only slight advantage here is that the Tex is probably easier to clean. Now Come on - are you serious? You are comparing the worn out horse hair seats of your 83 123 with the seats in a 97 Subaru? I bet the seats in a 97 KIA would feel better. Think about how much butt time has been spent in that Benz. Come on, wait until the Subaru seats have 350,000 miles on them. And you are complaining about a 123 diesel being slow as compared to a 1997 car. Sure, I am positive your 123 will not be a fast as your Subaru. You are not comparing apples to apples. You are comparing apples to refrigerators. These two cars are VERY different. Not trying to start a flame, but I just thought it was a really bad argument to compare the two cars. Donald H. Snook 1990 300SEL ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
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Levi Smith wrote: As to the seats, I can't possibly see how even if the seats were brand new they would have any more side support. There's just nothing there. It's like a flat bench seat on the bottom. I think the target audience for these cars is the rich gentleman suffering from a bit of middle-age spread. He would find side bolsters confining and annoying to climb in and out over, and isn't going to be doing any heavy cornering. The W123 was built as a long-distance touring car, not as a performance sedan. I'm kind of with you on this one. I find myself bracing my shoulder against the B-pillar during hard right turns. I suppose you could retrofit some Recaros. ;) David Brodbeck '83 300D Turbo
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Yeah, it would be nice if there were some other plug and play option for seats I could find at the junkyard. If mine actually break a spring, I'm pretty sure I'll be heading to the junkyard to see what I can find that I'll just try to bolt in one way or the other. I like that fine adjustment wheel on the seats to recline, I just wish there was a way to push it in to free-wheel the seats. It's a major pain in the butt if you just want to recline and look out the moon roof while your significant other is in the store for a few minutes, and then you have to crank it all the way back up again Levi On 4/27/06, David Brodbeck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Levi Smith wrote: As to the seats, I can't possibly see how even if the seats were brand new they would have any more side support. There's just nothing there. It's like a flat bench seat on the bottom. I think the target audience for these cars is the rich gentleman suffering from a bit of middle-age spread. He would find side bolsters confining and annoying to climb in and out over, and isn't going to be doing any heavy cornering. The W123 was built as a long-distance touring car, not as a performance sedan. I'm kind of with you on this one. I find myself bracing my shoulder against the B-pillar during hard right turns. I suppose you could retrofit some Recaros. ;) David Brodbeck '83 300D Turbo ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
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It is such a great highway performer and very comfortable to drive. I don't think I have ever had a car that I could drive 7-8 hours straight without stopping and stretching and fighting an aching back or legs. If I didn't have to stop for gas or nature's call --I could drive forever in this car. I now know why so many 126 owners rave about these cars. EXACTLY! My dad asked once, What's the big deal about this car? I said drive it for three hours, then tell me. I used to HATE road trips. Now I love them. The longest I ever spent in a car b4 my 300SD was 12 hours (driving) and it nearly killed me, I was exhausted. A year ago, I drove 17.5 hours striaght, with three girls aged 5 and under(!!!) and I too could have gone forever. This is what the 126 is for. Chris Donald Snook [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Back in January/February I bought a 1990 300SEL. This car has the M103 engine for which many people have strong opinions (both good and bad). Well, I really enjoyed the car, it is roomy and extremely well appointed and comfortable. Plus, I just think it is a good looking car. At any rate, I was ready for the slow acceleration from the 3.0 six cylinder. After all, it doesn't have all that much horsepower and less torque and the 126 LWB is a big heavy car. I picked the car up in Florida and drove it back to Kansas. I enjoyed driving it, but during the 14 hour days of driving I couldn't really appreciate it or love it. I just wanted to get home. While the 103 motor is not exactly zippy around town, I loved it on the highway. I took it on a long trip this past weekend and put about 1000 miles on it. It is such a great highway performer and very comfortable to drive. I don't think I have ever had a car that I could drive 7-8 hours straight without stopping and stretching and fighting an aching back or legs. If I didn't have to stop for gas or nature's call --I could drive forever in this car. I now know why so many 126 owners rave about these cars. Now if we could just do something about the gas mileage. I guess I am going to have to get an SDL. Donald H. Snook 1990 300SEL 126K ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net Christopher McCann, Squier Park, Kansas City, Missouri -2005 Blue Point Siamese, Rose -1987 300TD, 152K, Rotkäppchen -1985 300SD, 213K, Wulf -1972 Jacobsen 21 Turbo Vent -1971 Case 222 Hydrive, 12HP Kohler, 38 deck, Snowcaster, One Banger - Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. PC-to-Phone calls for ridiculously low rates. From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wed Apr 26 19:23:46 2006 Received: from imo-m27.mx.aol.com ([64.12.137.8]) by server5.arterytc5.net with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FYpc1-0004XX-Rf for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Wed, 26 Apr 2006 19:23:45 + Received: from [EMAIL PROTECTED] by imo-m27.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r7.5.) id 5.2ea.6009050 (4214) for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Wed, 26 Apr 2006 15:23:39 -0400 (EDT) From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2006 15:23:39 EDT To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Thunderbird - Mac OS X sub 308 X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.6 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Paint to sample X-BeenThere: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Id: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes_striplin.net.striplin.net List-Unsubscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: http://striplin.net/pipermail/mercedes_striplin.net List-Post: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2006 19:23:46 - Wasn't too many years ago that Porsche would paint your car to sample providing you gave them enough green stuff.. Paint to sample and interior to sample is still available at great cost and added production time. A lot of equipment that MB includes as standard is optional at astonishing prices at Porsche. That's why a Cayman or Boxster S is about 50% more costly than a C350 with about the same equipment. And it's why I can't buy one. I think 80 grand for a Cayman is just too much. RLE
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Donald wrote: great highway performer and very comfortable to drive. The seats in a MB seem at first impression, to be too firm and unforgiving. And some people form that 1st impression and never give them a chance. But if they can be convinced to ride in them for an hour or more they almost always become converts and realize how comfortable they are. Just as you described - they are supportive and comfortable for even the longest drives. Congratulations on your new purchase! Maybe you'll find that SDL you've been looking for?? Then you'll have the beginnings of a fleet of W126's! ;-) Sincerely, Larry T ('74 911, '67 MGB, 91 300D Turbo) A Blood Test for your oil - www.youroil.net For Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil Weber Carb Stuff http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs http://members.rennlist.com/my_911/Index.htm For my Paint Job Info - Original Message - From: Donald Snook [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2006 2:35 PM Subject: [MBZ] I love my 126 Back in January/February I bought a 1990 300SEL. This car has the M103 engine for which many people have strong opinions (both good and bad). Well, I really enjoyed the car, it is roomy and extremely well appointed and comfortable. Plus, I just think it is a good looking car. At any rate, I was ready for the slow acceleration from the 3.0 six cylinder. After all, it doesn't have all that much horsepower and less torque and the 126 LWB is a big heavy car. I picked the car up in Florida and drove it back to Kansas. I enjoyed driving it, but during the 14 hour days of driving I couldn't really appreciate it or love it. I just wanted to get home. While the 103 motor is not exactly zippy around town, I loved it on the highway. I took it on a long trip this past weekend and put about 1000 miles on it. It is such a great highway performer and very comfortable to drive. I don't think I have ever had a car that I could drive 7-8 hours straight without stopping and stretching and fighting an aching back or legs. If I didn't have to stop for gas or nature's call --I could drive forever in this car. I now know why so many 126 owners rave about these cars. Now if we could just do something about the gas mileage. I guess I am going to have to get an SDL. Donald H. Snook 1990 300SEL 126K ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
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That's the kind of info needed when someone says, I test drove a new MB and didn't think it was any better than the Ford (or whatever) I also test drove I try to tell them they have to *live* with a MB for a while - *then* they'll understand the difference - but that's hard to convince someone to try - Another good way to understand the difference is to work on a MB after working on Fords, Chevs, Dodge, etc - virtually *any* other vehicle will come out with shortcomings when compared to a MB. Little things like the ways wiring and tubing is secured - but I'm preaching to the choir -- Take care - Sincerely, Larry T ('74 911, '67 MGB, 91 300D Turbo) A Blood Test for your oil - www.youroil.net For Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil Weber Carb Stuff http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs http://members.rennlist.com/my_911/Index.htm For my Paint Job Info - Original Message - From: Christopher McCann [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2006 2:47 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] I love my 126 It is such a great highway performer and very comfortable to drive. I don't think I have ever had a car that I could drive 7-8 hours straight without stopping and stretching and fighting an aching back or legs. If I didn't have to stop for gas or nature's call --I could drive forever in this car. I now know why so many 126 owners rave about these cars. EXACTLY! My dad asked once, What's the big deal about this car? I said drive it for three hours, then tell me. I used to HATE road trips. Now I love them. The longest I ever spent in a car b4 my 300SD was 12 hours (driving) and it nearly killed me, I was exhausted. A year ago, I drove 17.5 hours striaght, with three girls aged 5 and under(!!!) and I too could have gone forever. This is what the 126 is for. Chris Donald Snook [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Back in January/February I bought a 1990 300SEL. This car has the M103 engine for which many people have strong opinions (both good and bad). Well, I really enjoyed the car, it is roomy and extremely well appointed and comfortable. Plus, I just think it is a good looking car. At any rate, I was ready for the slow acceleration from the 3.0 six cylinder. After all, it doesn't have all that much horsepower and less torque and the 126 LWB is a big heavy car. I picked the car up in Florida and drove it back to Kansas. I enjoyed driving it, but during the 14 hour days of driving I couldn't really appreciate it or love it. I just wanted to get home. While the 103 motor is not exactly zippy around town, I loved it on the highway. I took it on a long trip this past weekend and put about 1000 miles on it. It is such a great highway performer and very comfortable to drive. I don't think I have ever had a car that I could drive 7-8 hours straight without stopping and stretching and fighting an aching back or legs. If I didn't have to stop for gas or nature's call --I could drive forever in this car. I now know why so many 126 owners rave about these cars. Now if we could just do something about the gas mileage. I guess I am going to have to get an SDL. Donald H. Snook 1990 300SEL 126K ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net Christopher McCann, Squier Park, Kansas City, Missouri -2005 Blue Point Siamese, Rose -1987 300TD, 152K, Rotkäppchen -1985 300SD, 213K, Wulf -1972 Jacobsen 21 Turbo Vent -1971 Case 222 Hydrive, 12HP Kohler, 38 deck, Snowcaster, One Banger - Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. PC-to-Phone calls for ridiculously low rates. ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] I love my 126
- virtually *any* other vehicle will come out with shortcomings when compared to a MB. Little things like the ways wiring and tubing is secured - but I'm preaching to the choir -- Take care - Sincerely, Larry T ('74 911, '67 MGB, 91 300D Turbo) A Blood Test for your oil - www.youroil.net For Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil Weber Carb Stuff http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs http://members.rennlist.com/my_911/Index.htm For my Paint Job Info - Original Message - From: Christopher McCann [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2006 2:47 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] I love my 126 It is such a great highway performer and very comfortable to drive. I don't think I have ever had a car that I could drive 7-8 hours straight without stopping and stretching and fighting an aching back or legs. If I didn't have to stop for gas or nature's call --I could drive forever in this car. I now know why so many 126 owners rave about these cars. EXACTLY! My dad asked once, What's the big deal about this car? I said drive it for three hours, then tell me. I used to HATE road trips. Now I love them. The longest I ever spent in a car b4 my 300SD was 12 hours (driving) and it nearly killed me, I was exhausted. A year ago, I drove 17.5 hours striaght, with three girls aged 5 and under(!!!) and I too could have gone forever. This is what the 126 is for. Chris Donald Snook [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Back in January/February I bought a 1990 300SEL. This car has the M103 engine for which many people have strong opinions (both good and bad). Well, I really enjoyed the car, it is roomy and extremely well appointed and comfortable. Plus, I just think it is a good looking car. At any rate, I was ready for the slow acceleration from the 3.0 six cylinder. After all, it doesn't have all that much horsepower and less torque and the 126 LWB is a big heavy car. I picked the car up in Florida and drove it back to Kansas. I enjoyed driving it, but during the 14 hour days of driving I couldn't really appreciate it or love it. I just wanted to get home. While the 103 motor is not exactly zippy around town, I loved it on the highway. I took it on a long trip this past weekend and put about 1000 miles on it. It is such a great highway performer and very comfortable to drive. I don't think I have ever had a car that I could drive 7-8 hours straight without stopping and stretching and fighting an aching back or legs. If I didn't have to stop for gas or nature's call --I could drive forever in this car. I now know why so many 126 owners rave about these cars. Now if we could just do something about the gas mileage. I guess I am going to have to get an SDL. Donald H. Snook 1990 300SEL 126K ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net Christopher McCann, Squier Park, Kansas City, Missouri -2005 Blue Point Siamese, Rose -1987 300TD, 152K, Rotkäppchen -1985 300SD, 213K, Wulf -1972 Jacobsen 21 Turbo Vent -1971 Case 222 Hydrive, 12HP Kohler, 38 deck, Snowcaster, One Banger - Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. PC-to-Phone calls for ridiculously low rates. ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] I love my 126
Levi Smith wrote: The seats are nice and firm, supportive and comfortable in my Sube. I find the ones in the Benz to have every disadvantage of a bench seat. It feels like I'm riding on a worse/worn out version of the vinyl bench seat in an 80' Dodge truck. Given my springs are probably weak, but I want seats that are firm, not springy, and with side bolsters for support, not just slidy. The only slight advantage here is that the Tex is probably easier to clean. Now Come on - are you serious? You are comparing the worn out horse hair seats of your 83 123 with the seats in a 97 Subaru? I bet the seats in a 97 KIA would feel better. Think about how much butt time has been spent in that Benz. Come on, wait until the Subaru seats have 350,000 miles on them. And you are complaining about a 123 diesel being slow as compared to a 1997 car. Sure, I am positive your 123 will not be a fast as your Subaru. You are not comparing apples to apples. You are comparing apples to refrigerators. These two cars are VERY different. Not trying to start a flame, but I just thought it was a really bad argument to compare the two cars. Donald H. Snook 1990 300SEL