Re: [MBZ] OT '69 230 CARBS QUESTION
yeah, but the conversion kit is about 2 grand, isn't it? If I wanted a 123 gasser, i'd opt for a southern 280e At 09:00 AM 4/4/2007, you wrote: OT ??? You can get a Weber conversion kit from JAM Engineering if you don't want to mess with the Zeniths. Dan Weeks [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I've got a line on a '69 230 that looks like it's in great shape, but the carbs are screwed up. Asking price $2500. Are these the impossible-to-tune carbs I've heard about occasionally on this list and should I avoid this car? How much would putting the carbs right cost, worst case, if I could find someone to do it (my indy's pretty good)? Other comments about this engine/car? Reliability? Power? Economy? Handling? Trans? My bride is lusting after a vintage benz, and this one's the right shape and color :-) Dan -- 1983 300D 1966 230 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth
Re: [MBZ] OT '69 230 CARBS QUESTION
On second thought, I think the Holley EFI conversion might be less costly, or about the same. Still, I'd opt for a fuel injected gasser. Those blankin' Zeniths never work right. Course, you could put an OM 616 pr an OM 601 into it and have a nice car.. if it weren't rusty At 06:41 PM 4/4/2007, you wrote: yeah, but the conversion kit is about 2 grand, isn't it? If I wanted a 123 gasser, i'd opt for a southern 280e At 09:00 AM 4/4/2007, you wrote: OT ??? You can get a Weber conversion kit from JAM Engineering if you don't want to mess with the Zeniths. Dan Weeks [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I've got a line on a '69 230 that looks like it's in great shape, but the carbs are screwed up. Asking price $2500. Are these the impossible-to-tune carbs I've heard about occasionally on this list and should I avoid this car? How much would putting the carbs right cost, worst case, if I could find someone to do it (my indy's pretty good)? Other comments about this engine/car? Reliability? Power? Economy? Handling? Trans? My bride is lusting after a vintage benz, and this one's the right shape and color :-) Dan -- 1983 300D 1966 230 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth
Re: [MBZ] OT '69 230 CARBS QUESTION
You know, you can get those webers pretty cheap used, and they don't usually wear out. You'd possibly need to come up with adapters and such, but if you're getting them piecemeal you could probably save some cash. I've seen the webers with adapters for other applications go as low as $150 instead of the $550+ for kits that they seem to command new. There are also other options if you're willing to get creative. A GM throttle body or two with megasquirt, pair of dualjets, pair of holley two barrels... But, I'd think that $2500 for a car with jacked up carbs is a little steep. Then again, that's just me. On Wed, Apr 04, 2007 at 08:13:26PM -0500, Loren Faeth wrote: On second thought, I think the Holley EFI conversion might be less costly, or about the same. Still, I'd opt for a fuel injected gasser. Those blankin' Zeniths never work right. Course, you could put an OM 616 pr an OM 601 into it and have a nice car.. if it weren't rusty At 06:41 PM 4/4/2007, you wrote: yeah, but the conversion kit is about 2 grand, isn't it? If I wanted a 123 gasser, i'd opt for a southern 280e At 09:00 AM 4/4/2007, you wrote: OT ??? You can get a Weber conversion kit from JAM Engineering if you don't want to mess with the Zeniths. Dan Weeks [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I've got a line on a '69 230 that looks like it's in great shape, but the carbs are screwed up. Asking price $2500. Are these the impossible-to-tune carbs I've heard about occasionally on this list and should I avoid this car? How much would putting the carbs right cost, worst case, if I could find someone to do it (my indy's pretty good)? Other comments about this engine/car? Reliability? Power? Economy? Handling? Trans? My bride is lusting after a vintage benz, and this one's the right shape and color :-)
Re: [MBZ] OT '69 230 CARBS QUESTION
Zenith's are a little different from the other carbs,once you have the service manual for them ( 108 service manual) they are easy to set up correctly and perform perfectly. I have no problems with my 230 220S and 280S after I got the grasp of the jets and fuel flows from the carb diagram. synchronising them with a JCWhitney synchroniser is easy. mak Also, rebuilding the carbs is easy but make sure you pay attention to detail set every adjustment absolutely exact. More carbs are screwed up by the owner mis-adjusting than from any other cause. More often than not, the float is set wrong.
Re: [MBZ] OT '69 230 CARBS QUESTION
Loren Faeth [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: yeah, but the conversion kit is about 2 grand, isn't it? If I wanted a 123 gasser, i'd opt for a southern 280e The kit is about $900. I was thinking they were less than that; I recall spending about $600 on the kit I bought for my '66 230 but that was a while ago. Allan -- 1983 300D 1966 230
Re: [MBZ] OT '69 230 CARBS QUESTION
Dan, These are not impossible to tune - you just need to know how. The secret is to use a mechanics stethoscope to listen to the whistle in the manifold during idle. A carburetor venturi will make a sound (whistle) as air is passing through the tone changes with velocity. Both will have the same pitch when they are balanced. Another trick is to pull one plug wire from the front three, then plug the wire back in then pull one from the rear three. Both should drop idle by the same RPM (listening to the whistle works better). Also, rebuilding the carbs is easy but make sure you pay attention to detail set every adjustment absolutely exact. More carbs are screwed up by the owner mis-adjusting than from any other cause. More often than not, the float is set wrong. Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dan Weeks Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2007 9:11 PM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] OT '69 230 CARBS QUESTION I've got a line on a '69 230 that looks like it's in great shape, but the carbs are screwed up. Asking price $2500. Are these the impossible-to-tune carbs I've heard about occasionally on this list and should I avoid this car? How much would putting the carbs right cost, worst case, if I could find someone to do it (my indy's pretty good)? Other comments about this engine/car? Reliability? Power? Economy? Handling? Trans? My bride is lusting after a vintage benz, and this one's the right shape and color :-) Dan 82 300SD Sadie, 291k ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT '69 230 CARBS QUESTION
I've got a line on a '69 230 that looks like it's in great shape, but the carbs are screwed up. Asking price $2500. http://desmoines.craigslist.org/boa/305346346.html Look familiar? Rick Knoble '85 300 CD '87 190 DT
Re: [MBZ] OT 69 230 CARBS QUESTION
Thanks, Tom--good to know. Yep, Rick, that's the one--did you have your eye on it as well? Dan
Re: [MBZ] OT '69 230 CARBS QUESTION
OT ??? You can get a Weber conversion kit from JAM Engineering if you don't want to mess with the Zeniths. Dan Weeks [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I've got a line on a '69 230 that looks like it's in great shape, but the carbs are screwed up. Asking price $2500. Are these the impossible-to-tune carbs I've heard about occasionally on this list and should I avoid this car? How much would putting the carbs right cost, worst case, if I could find someone to do it (my indy's pretty good)? Other comments about this engine/car? Reliability? Power? Economy? Handling? Trans? My bride is lusting after a vintage benz, and this one's the right shape and color :-) Dan -- 1983 300D 1966 230
Re: [MBZ] OT 69 230 CARBS QUESTION
Yep, Rick, that's the one--did you have your eye on it as well? Nah. I monitor all the CL benz listings in the midwest to post what I think are the best deals (usually diesels) on here. If I know someone is looking for something specific I will post that too. Rick Knoble '85 300 CD '87 190 DT
