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yeah, it's the translation of hte story into english (well, english and spanish here as there is a large non english speaking population) that would make it work universally. they are good stories that should captivate most any watcher On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 12:56 PM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: We were benefactors of the Florentine Opera when we lived in Wisconsin. A great opera company that does a nice mix of traditional and modern operas every season. As benefactors we got invited to all sorts of social things which often included the performers. It was at these that I got to hobnob with the likes of people such as Sherril Milnes. It was pretty cool to talk to well known operatic performers like him on such a personal level. One of the things I liked best were the backstage talks they would do after a performance. They went a long way in helping to better understand the characters and plot of the opera, especially if it was one you were unfamiliar with. I think too many people both present and perceive opera as a snooty upper crust sort of entertainment, something that you have to be intelligent and well bred to enjoy. It's too bad, as we would on occasion take friends with us, especially ones who had never been, and they always came away amazed at how much they enjoyed it. One nice thing was the use of supertitles so the audience could follow the performance and understand the dialogue. Dan Sent from my iPad On Aug 25, 2013, at 10:16 AM, Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: Most opera singers are over the top personalities, outgoing and friendly. A couple weeks before he died on stage Leonard Warren was chatting happily with the boys. Great guy, great loss. He and Richard Tucker were inseparable. I also remember Georgio Tozzi and Cesare Siepi. Love those basso profundo voices. Funny thing about memories. I can still recite from memory the entire scene with the children and the madman from Boris Godunov. On Sun, Aug 25, 2013 at 8:28 AM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: I have hung out with Sherril Milnes on a couple of occasions. Nice guy, very gracious. Dan who likes Puccini and Verdi On Aug 25, 2013, at 3:15 AM, Gerry Archer wrote: That's remarkable! A Met opera performer on the Mercedes List! A blind, music loving friend has a classical music list. With your permission, I'd like to post this on her list. (Last year?) we saw Natalie Dessay in the title role of Lucia Di Lammermoor on closed circuit. We were anxious to hear her do the Mad Scene and compare it to Joan Sutherlands which we considered the all time peak performance. She didn't do it, but it was probably forgiveable since she was doing something like 6 or 7 performances per week and we doubted that anyone could do a decent Mad Scene that often. When Sutherland did it, you could barely tell her voice from the (flute? piccolo?). Gerry..Okay, okay, I'll shut up about music and get back to Mercedes. [:o) From: Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com I sang in the Met Opera boys' chorus from 7 until my voice changed (11, IIRC). I also had a couple solo roles, one of which included a curtain call as Gherardino in Puccini's one act opera Gianni Schicchi (usually paired with Salome in a double bill). I lost interest in opera until recently. Last show attended was a the Washington Opera performance of Manon Lescaut. On Sat, Aug 24, 2013 at 8:30 PM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote: Yep, they're mighty fine, too. Wilton - Original Message - From: Gerry Archer arche...@embarqmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Saturday, August 24, 2013 8:00 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Louie Louie I liked symphonies as a young person, especially those with a principal performer; Jascha Heifetz, for example. Later preferred opera, and currently prefer vocal performers such as Dimitri Hvorostovsky, Elina Garanca, etc: http://www.youtube.com/watch?**v=OmPI2WNuUzE http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OmPI2WNuUzE http://www.youtube.com/watch?**v=aakfkGBh-fM http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aakfkGBh-fM Gerry Yep; fantastic! A bit late, but very welcomed. Thanks. Wilton - Original Message - From: Gerry Archer arche...@embarqmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Saturday, August 24, 2013 7:20 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Louie Louie http://www.youtube.com/watch?**v=_-mvutiDRvQ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_-mvutiDRvQ Is there an icon on that page we can click right now to hear some symphony? 'Probably good for all of us. ;)) Wilton - Original Message - From: Gerry Archer arche...@embarqmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Saturday, August 24, 2013 6:42 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Louie Louie Beethovens 9th
Re: [MBZ] OT Louie Louie
So Mitch, does Luther get a special category for being younger than me? -Curt Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2013 22:11:57 -0500 From: Benz Hogs benz-n-h...@gulseth.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Louie Louie Message-ID: 521d6a7d.6060...@gulseth.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Get over it. I'm almost 2 months from 35, that makes it possible for me to have a kid in college Luther KB5QHU Forest Park, IL '98 ML320 Max (170,xxx mi) On 8/27/2013 6:46 PM, Mitch Haley wrote: Sorry, Zippy. I guess it's hard to think of you as 15 years older than a college kid. That's the category I put Curt in. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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If I get a special category, I'd hate to see ya'lls reaction when I tell you how young my wife is :) Luther KB5QHUForest Park, IL '98 ML320 Max (170,xxx mi) On 8/28/2013 11:29 AM, Curt Raymond wrote: So Mitch, does Luther get a special category for being younger than me? -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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i could use a young wife On Wed, Aug 28, 2013 at 12:31 PM, Benz Hogs benz-n-h...@gulseth.net wrote: If I get a special category, I'd hate to see ya'lls reaction when I tell you how young my wife is :) Luther KB5QHUForest Park, IL '98 ML320 Max (170,xxx mi) On 8/28/2013 11:29 AM, Curt Raymond wrote: So Mitch, does Luther get a special category for being younger than me? -Curt __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars * *www.BuyEUROparts.com* On Wed, Aug 28, 2013 at 12:31 PM, Benz Hogs benz-n-h...@gulseth.net wrote: If I get a special category, I'd hate to see ya'lls reaction when I tell you how young my wife is :) Luther KB5QHUForest Park, IL '98 ML320 Max (170,xxx mi) On 8/28/2013 11:29 AM, Curt Raymond wrote: So Mitch, does Luther get a special category for being younger than me? -Curt __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars * *www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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They like motivated and confident men. Luther KB5QHUForest Park, IL '98 ML320 Max (170,xxx mi) On 8/28/2013 11:33 AM, Gary Hurst wrote: i could use a young wife ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Curt Raymond wrote: So Mitch, does Luther get a special category for being younger than me? He isn't much younger than you, is he? He was in his early 20's when I first encountered him about ten years ago, and for some reason I still thought of him that way. What about Snook? I'm wondering if he's over/under 40 now. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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and i'm not that??? On Wed, Aug 28, 2013 at 12:37 PM, Benz Hogs benz-n-h...@gulseth.net wrote: They like motivated and confident men. Luther KB5QHUForest Park, IL '98 ML320 Max (170,xxx mi) On 8/28/2013 11:33 AM, Gary Hurst wrote: i could use a young wife __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars * *www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Couple years different, I've been married a lot longer than he has... I'm reasonably sure Snook is 40+, I was under the impression he was 4 or 5 years older than me. -Curt Date: Wed, 28 Aug 2013 12:53:50 -0400 From: Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Louie Louie Message-ID: 521e2b1e@voyager.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Curt Raymond wrote: So Mitch, does Luther get a special category for being younger than me? He isn't much younger than you, is he? He was in his early 20's when I first encountered him about ten years ago, and for some reason I still thought of him that way. What about Snook? I'm wondering if he's over/under 40 now. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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He'll age fast with a young wife. Gerry.who'd be dead in six months with a young (40+) wife From: Benz Hogs benz-n-h...@gulseth.net If I get a special category, I'd hate to see ya'lls reaction when I tell you how young my wife is :) Luther KB5QHUForest Park, IL '98 ML320 Max (170,xxx mi) On 8/28/2013 11:29 AM, Curt Raymond wrote: So Mitch, does Luther get a special category for being younger than me? -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.2242 / Virus Database: 3211/6115 - Release Date: 08/28/13 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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People still think I'm in my mid or upper 20s and sometimes they think my wife and I are the same age :) Luther KB5QHUForest Park, IL '98 ML320 Max (170,xxx mi) On 8/28/2013 1:40 PM, Gerry Archer wrote: He'll age fast with a young wife. Gerry.who'd be dead in six months with a young (40+) wife From: Benz Hogs benz-n-h...@gulseth.net If I get a special category, I'd hate to see ya'lls reaction when I tell you how young my wife is :) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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people think i'm in my mid to upper 60s :( On Wed, Aug 28, 2013 at 2:56 PM, Benz Hogs benz-n-h...@gulseth.net wrote: People still think I'm in my mid or upper 20s and sometimes they think my wife and I are the same age :) Luther KB5QHUForest Park, IL '98 ML320 Max (170,xxx mi) On 8/28/2013 1:40 PM, Gerry Archer wrote: He'll age fast with a young wife. Gerry.who'd be dead in six months with a young (40+) wife From: Benz Hogs benz-n-h...@gulseth.net If I get a special category, I'd hate to see ya'lls reaction when I tell you how young my wife is :) __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars * *www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Well, you're definitely not chopped liver. On Wed, Aug 28, 2013 at 2:57 PM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote: people think i'm in my mid to upper 60s :( On Wed, Aug 28, 2013 at 2:56 PM, Benz Hogs benz-n-h...@gulseth.net wrote: People still think I'm in my mid or upper 20s and sometimes they think my wife and I are the same age :) Luther KB5QHUForest Park, IL '98 ML320 Max (170,xxx mi) On 8/28/2013 1:40 PM, Gerry Archer wrote: He'll age fast with a young wife. Gerry.who'd be dead in six months with a young (40+) wife From: Benz Hogs benz-n-h...@gulseth.net If I get a special category, I'd hate to see ya'lls reaction when I tell you how young my wife is :) __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/ http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.com http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars * *www.BuyEUROparts.com http://www.buyeuroparts.com/* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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although i do eat chopped liver way more frequently than one would expect On Wed, Aug 28, 2013 at 5:25 PM, Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.comwrote: Well, you're definitely not chopped liver. On Wed, Aug 28, 2013 at 2:57 PM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote: people think i'm in my mid to upper 60s :( On Wed, Aug 28, 2013 at 2:56 PM, Benz Hogs benz-n-h...@gulseth.net wrote: People still think I'm in my mid or upper 20s and sometimes they think my wife and I are the same age :) Luther KB5QHUForest Park, IL '98 ML320 Max (170,xxx mi) On 8/28/2013 1:40 PM, Gerry Archer wrote: He'll age fast with a young wife. Gerry.who'd be dead in six months with a young (40+) wife From: Benz Hogs benz-n-h...@gulseth.net If I get a special category, I'd hate to see ya'lls reaction when I tell you how young my wife is :) __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/ http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.com http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars * *www.BuyEUROparts.com http://www.buyeuroparts.com/* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars * *www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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with big wallets and liberal spending habits for tarts On Aug 28, 2013, at 9:37 AM, Benz Hogs wrote: They like motivated and confident men. Luther KB5QHUForest Park, IL '98 ML320 Max (170,xxx mi) On 8/28/2013 11:33 AM, Gary Hurst wrote: i could use a young wife ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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IMO what Gary is looking for describes the majority of casual classical music listeners; those that should be catered to if the U.S. is ever to achieve an interest in classical music on a par wtih Europes. The problem is that American classical music is dominated by those relative few who have a preference for the more esoteric forms of classical music. They seldom think of creating anything like the British Proms or the European summer programs which are attended by thousands in open amphitheatres. Not only would such programs in America solve the constant problem of financing American classical music performances, it would also increase the number of Americans who develop a new interest in more complex classical music. Gerry Classical music notes: http://www.wqxr.org/#!/ . From: Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com a lot of people dig it but it's just pain to me. there are many who think it's the greatest thing ever written. but it's easy to understand what i'm looking for. i like a good compelling story. i like some nice songs. i like a few jokes. i'm the kinda guy who wants to always be seeing don giovanni. or der rosenkavalier. i love der rosenkalier and tend to dig richard strauss. but then something like elektra will just turn me off for lack of jokes and pretty songs. the jokes are big for me. for example, take donizetti. i love l'elisir d'amore but take out the jokes and give me lucia di lammermoor and i'm unhappy only verdi has the power to get over with me without the jokes! On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 1:04 AM, Benz Hogs benz-n-h...@gulseth.net wrote: Don't worry, I'll subject myself to it this season at the Lyric :) Luther KB5QHUForest Park, IL '98 ML320 Max (170,xxx mi) On 8/26/2013 1:47 PM, Gary Hurst wrote: over six hours. no real songs at all. i still have nightmares __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars * *www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.2242 / Virus Database: 3211/6111 - Release Date: 08/26/13 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Benz Hogs wrote: Not in Chicago. I'm 10-15 years or more older than the youngest every performance I've seen at the Lyric. I think Gary said 'voluntary' attendance. Mitch ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Spoleto in Charleston --R On 8/27/13 5:14 AM, Gerry Archer wrote: IMO what Gary is looking for describes the majority of casual classical music listeners; those that should be catered to if the U.S. is ever to achieve an interest in classical music on a par wtih Europes. The problem is that American classical music is dominated by those relative few who have a preference for the more esoteric forms of classical music. They seldom think of creating anything like the British Proms or the European summer programs which are attended by thousands in open amphitheatres. Not only would such programs in America solve the constant problem of financing American classical music performances, it would also increase the number of Americans who develop a new interest in more complex classical music. Gerry ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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That's not a complete sentence. On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 8:59 AM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: Spoleto in Charleston --R On 8/27/13 5:14 AM, Gerry Archer wrote: IMO what Gary is looking for describes the majority of casual classical music listeners; those that should be catered to if the U.S. is ever to achieve an interest in classical music on a par wtih Europes. The problem is that American classical music is dominated by those relative few who have a preference for the more esoteric forms of classical music. They seldom think of creating anything like the British Proms or the European summer programs which are attended by thousands in open amphitheatres. Not only would such programs in America solve the constant problem of financing American classical music performances, it would also increase the number of Americans who develop a new interest in more complex classical music. Gerry __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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I'm preserving precious bandwidth --R On 8/27/13 10:23 AM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote: That's not a complete sentence. On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 8:59 AM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: Spoleto in Charleston --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Spoken like a natural born bureaucrat. You missed your calling. On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 10:43 AM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: I'm preserving precious bandwidth --R On 8/27/13 10:23 AM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote: That's not a complete sentence. On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 8:59 AM, Rich Thomas richthomas79TD300@**constructivity.netrichthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: Spoleto in Charleston --R __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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me2 I'm preserving precious bandwidth --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Ya Even more bandwidth From: Richard Hattaway rhatta...@rocketmail.com me2 I'm preserving precious bandwidth --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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You not a bureaucrat? From: Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com Spoken like a natural born bureaucrat. You missed your calling. On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 10:43 AM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: I'm preserving precious bandwidth --R On 8/27/13 10:23 AM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote: That's not a complete sentence. On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 8:59 AM, Rich Thomas richthomas79TD300@**constructivity.netrichthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: Spoleto in Charleston --R __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.2242 / Virus Database: 3211/6112 - Release Date: 08/27/13 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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You guys are going to brake the internet with all these bits --R On 8/27/13 11:35 AM, Gerry Archer wrote: Ya Even more bandwidth From: Richard Hattaway rhatta...@rocketmail.com me2 I'm preserving precious bandwidth --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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i can't get enough of opera. it is so glorious in scale, so fraught with human frailty and stupidity. they explore the same issues of societal madness and the human condition we face today and, at least in the italian ones, have a lot of nice songs to boot. i think opera just has a PR issue and if young people knew what it really was, they'd renew interest in it on a large scale On Sat, Aug 24, 2013 at 8:56 PM, Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.comwrote: I sang in the Met Opera boys' chorus from 7 until my voice changed (11, IIRC). I also had a couple solo roles, one of which included a curtain call as Gherardino in Puccini's one act opera Gianni Schicchi (usually paired with Salome in a double bill). I lost interest in opera until recently. Last show attended was a the Washington Opera performance of Manon Lescaut. On Sat, Aug 24, 2013 at 8:30 PM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote: Yep, they're mighty fine, too. Wilton - Original Message - From: Gerry Archer arche...@embarqmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Saturday, August 24, 2013 8:00 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Louie Louie I liked symphonies as a young person, especially those with a principal performer; Jascha Heifetz, for example. Later preferred opera, and currently prefer vocal performers such as Dimitri Hvorostovsky, Elina Garanca, etc: http://www.youtube.com/watch?**v=OmPI2WNuUzE http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OmPI2WNuUzE http://www.youtube.com/watch?**v=aakfkGBh-fM http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aakfkGBh-fM Gerry Yep; fantastic! A bit late, but very welcomed. Thanks. Wilton - Original Message - From: Gerry Archer arche...@embarqmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Saturday, August 24, 2013 7:20 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Louie Louie http://www.youtube.com/watch?**v=_-mvutiDRvQ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_-mvutiDRvQ Is there an icon on that page we can click right now to hear some symphony? 'Probably good for all of us. ;)) Wilton - Original Message - From: Gerry Archer arche...@embarqmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Saturday, August 24, 2013 6:42 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Louie Louie Beethovens 9th is undoubtedly one of the great compositons of classical music: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/**Symphony_No._9_%28Beethoven%29 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Symphony_No._9_%28Beethoven%29 but you can't really compare classical music to modern music. Modern music can appeal to a much wider range of people than classical music; the lovers of which undoubtedly have a classical gene left over from their ancestors. (I fell in love with classical music at age 6). Classical music has many bizarre forms; partitas for solo violin for example; and the only way to separate the silliness from real music is to state that any work which does not have melody is nonsense; at least to the casual classic music listener. IMO the decline of classical music began with the Rite of Spring, and it's gotten continually worse (Hindemith, et al). Gerry From: OK Don okd...@gmail.com O M G !!! Both examples are black noise. Real music started dying after Beethoven's 9th On Sat, Aug 24, 2013 at 4:25 PM, Gerry Archer arche...@embarqmail.com**wrote: The broad field of nonsense music from which all modern music is derives actually began in the 1920s with a South African song written by a Zulu: Mbube (Zulu: lion) was written in the 1920s by Solomon Linda, a South African singer of Zulu origin, who worked for the Gallo Record Company as a cleaner and record packer, and who performed with a choir, The Evening Birds, where, according to South African journalist Rian Malan: Mbube wasn't the most remarkable tune, but there was something terribly compelling about the underlying chant, a dense meshing of low male voices above which Solomon yodelled and howled for two exhilarating minutes, occasionally making it up as he went along. The third take was the great one, but it achieved immortality only in its dying seconds, when Solly [Solomon Linda] took a deep breath, opened his mouth and improvised the melody that the world now associates with these words: 'In the jungle, the mighty jungle, the lion sleeps tonight.' Linda's improvised melody was wordless; no English words occur in the recording. Issued by Gallo as a 78 recording in 1939 and marketed to black audiences, Mbube became a hit and Linda a star throughout South Africa. By 1948, the song had sold about 100,000 copies in Africa and among black South African immigrants in Great Britain and had lent its name to a style of African a cappella music that evolved into isicathamiya (also called mbube), popularized by Ladysmith Black Mambazo.snip
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Most opera singers are over the top personalities, outgoing and friendly. A couple weeks before he died on stage Leonard Warren was chatting happily with the boys. Great guy, great loss. He and Richard Tucker were inseparable. I also remember Georgio Tozzi and Cesare Siepi. Love those basso profundo voices. Funny thing about memories. I can still recite from memory the entire scene with the children and the madman from Boris Godunov. On Sun, Aug 25, 2013 at 8:28 AM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: I have hung out with Sherril Milnes on a couple of occasions. Nice guy, very gracious. Dan who likes Puccini and Verdi On Aug 25, 2013, at 3:15 AM, Gerry Archer wrote: That's remarkable! A Met opera performer on the Mercedes List! A blind, music loving friend has a classical music list. With your permission, I'd like to post this on her list. (Last year?) we saw Natalie Dessay in the title role of Lucia Di Lammermoor on closed circuit. We were anxious to hear her do the Mad Scene and compare it to Joan Sutherlands which we considered the all time peak performance. She didn't do it, but it was probably forgiveable since she was doing something like 6 or 7 performances per week and we doubted that anyone could do a decent Mad Scene that often. When Sutherland did it, you could barely tell her voice from the (flute? piccolo?). Gerry..Okay, okay, I'll shut up about music and get back to Mercedes. [:o) From: Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com I sang in the Met Opera boys' chorus from 7 until my voice changed (11, IIRC). I also had a couple solo roles, one of which included a curtain call as Gherardino in Puccini's one act opera Gianni Schicchi (usually paired with Salome in a double bill). I lost interest in opera until recently. Last show attended was a the Washington Opera performance of Manon Lescaut. On Sat, Aug 24, 2013 at 8:30 PM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote: Yep, they're mighty fine, too. Wilton - Original Message - From: Gerry Archer arche...@embarqmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Saturday, August 24, 2013 8:00 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Louie Louie I liked symphonies as a young person, especially those with a principal performer; Jascha Heifetz, for example. Later preferred opera, and currently prefer vocal performers such as Dimitri Hvorostovsky, Elina Garanca, etc: http://www.youtube.com/watch?**v=OmPI2WNuUzE http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OmPI2WNuUzE http://www.youtube.com/watch?**v=aakfkGBh-fM http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aakfkGBh-fM Gerry Yep; fantastic! A bit late, but very welcomed. Thanks. Wilton - Original Message - From: Gerry Archer arche...@embarqmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Saturday, August 24, 2013 7:20 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Louie Louie http://www.youtube.com/watch?**v=_-mvutiDRvQ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_-mvutiDRvQ Is there an icon on that page we can click right now to hear some symphony? 'Probably good for all of us. ;)) Wilton - Original Message - From: Gerry Archer arche...@embarqmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Saturday, August 24, 2013 6:42 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Louie Louie Beethovens 9th is undoubtedly one of the great compositons of classical music: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/**Symphony_No._9_%28Beethoven%29 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Symphony_No._9_%28Beethoven%29 but you can't really compare classical music to modern music. Modern music can appeal to a much wider range of people than classical music; the lovers of which undoubtedly have a classical gene left over from their ancestors. (I fell in love with classical music at age 6). Classical music has many bizarre forms; partitas for solo violin for example; and the only way to separate the silliness from real music is to state that any work which does not have melody is nonsense; at least to the casual classic music listener. IMO the decline of classical music began with the Rite of Spring, and it's gotten continually worse (Hindemith, et al). Gerry From: OK Don okd...@gmail.com O M G !!! Both examples are black noise. Real music started dying after Beethoven's 9th On Sat, Aug 24, 2013 at 4:25 PM, Gerry Archer arche...@embarqmail.com**wrote: The broad field of nonsense music from which all modern music is derives actually began in the 1920s with a South African song written by a Zulu: Mbube (Zulu: lion) was written in the 1920s by Solomon Linda, a South African singer of Zulu origin, who worked for the Gallo Record Company as a cleaner and record packer, and who performed with a choir, The Evening Birds, where, according to South African journalist Rian Malan: Mbube wasn't the most remarkable tune
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there are great composers today. they just aren't played on top 40 radio so few know who they are. thomas ades is one of my all time favorite composer and he is alive and well RIGH NOW. relatively young too. there are advantages to living urban. i have a met theater 3 miles away and and opera company 10 miles away. On Sat, Aug 24, 2013 at 8:27 PM, Gerry Archer arche...@embarqmail.comwrote: You're fortunate. The closest theatre that features closed circuit performances by the Met is 60 miles of two lane road distant. We have managed to see a half dozen operas so far, however. Classical music needs composers who will go back and pick up where Beethoven and others left off. Wouldn't it be great to have new music written in the style of Tchaikovsky? Gerry From: Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com i became an opera fan a year ago. i spent my whole life thinking opera was some kind of fancy thing for pretentious rich people. then i ended up seeing one and was oh, wow, this is great so now i subscribe to my local opera company and go see the met stuff at the theater, but i don't see much future for opera as i'm generally the youngest person there who went voluntarily On Sat, Aug 24, 2013 at 8:00 PM, Gerry Archer arche...@embarqmail.com** wrote: I liked symphonies as a young person, especially those with a principal performer; Jascha Heifetz, for example. Later preferred opera, and currently prefer vocal performers such as Dimitri Hvorostovsky, Elina Garanca, etc: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OmPI2WNuUzEhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?**v=OmPI2WNuUzE http://www.**youtube.com/watch?v=**OmPI2WNuUzEhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OmPI2WNuUzE http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aakfkGBh-fMhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?**v=aakfkGBh-fM http://www.**youtube.com/watch?v=aakfkGBh-**fMhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aakfkGBh-fM Gerry Yep; fantastic! A bit late, but very welcomed. Thanks. Wilton - Original Message - From: Gerry Archer arche...@embarqmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Saturday, August 24, 2013 7:20 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Louie Louie http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_-mvutiDRvQhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?**v=_-mvutiDRvQ http://www.**youtube.com/watch?v=_-**mvutiDRvQhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_-mvutiDRvQ Is there an icon on that page we can click right now to hear some symphony? 'Probably good for all of us. ;)) Wilton - Original Message - From: Gerry Archer arche...@embarqmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Saturday, August 24, 2013 6:42 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Louie Louie Beethovens 9th is undoubtedly one of the great compositons of classical music: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Symphony_No._9_%28Beethoven%**29https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/**Symphony_No._9_%28Beethoven%29 https://en.wikipedia.org/**wiki/Symphony_No._9_%**28Beethoven%29https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Symphony_No._9_%28Beethoven%29 but you can't really compare classical music to modern music. Modern music can appeal to a much wider range of people than classical music; the lovers of which undoubtedly have a classical gene left over from their ancestors. (I fell in love with classical music at age 6). Classical music has many bizarre forms; partitas for solo violin for example; and the only way to separate the silliness from real music is to state that any work which does not have melody is nonsense; at least to the casual classic music listener. IMO the decline of classical music began with the Rite of Spring, and it's gotten continually worse (Hindemith, et al). Gerry From: OK Don okd...@gmail.com O M G !!! Both examples are black noise. Real music started dying after Beethoven's 9th On Sat, Aug 24, 2013 at 4:25 PM, Gerry Archer arche...@embarqmail.comwrote: The broad field of nonsense music from which all modern music is derives actually began in the 1920s with a South African song written by a Zulu: Mbube (Zulu: lion) was written in the 1920s by Solomon Linda, a South African singer of Zulu origin, who worked for the Gallo Record Company as a cleaner and record packer, and who performed with a choir, The Evening Birds, where, according to South African journalist Rian Malan: Mbube wasn't the most remarkable tune, but there was something terribly compelling about the underlying chant, a dense meshing of low male voices above which Solomon yodelled and howled for two exhilarating minutes, occasionally making it up as he went along. The third take was the great one, but it achieved immortality only in its dying seconds, when Solly [Solomon Linda] took a deep breath, opened his mouth and improvised the melody that the world now associates with these words: 'In the jungle, the mighty jungle, the lion sleeps tonight.' Linda's improvised melody was wordless; no English words occur
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We were benefactors of the Florentine Opera when we lived in Wisconsin. A great opera company that does a nice mix of traditional and modern operas every season. As benefactors we got invited to all sorts of social things which often included the performers. It was at these that I got to hobnob with the likes of people such as Sherril Milnes. It was pretty cool to talk to well known operatic performers like him on such a personal level. One of the things I liked best were the backstage talks they would do after a performance. They went a long way in helping to better understand the characters and plot of the opera, especially if it was one you were unfamiliar with. I think too many people both present and perceive opera as a snooty upper crust sort of entertainment, something that you have to be intelligent and well bred to enjoy. It's too bad, as we would on occasion take friends with us, especially ones who had never been, and they always came away amazed at how much they enjoyed it. One nice thing was the use of supertitles so the audience could follow the performance and understand the dialogue. Dan Sent from my iPad On Aug 25, 2013, at 10:16 AM, Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: Most opera singers are over the top personalities, outgoing and friendly. A couple weeks before he died on stage Leonard Warren was chatting happily with the boys. Great guy, great loss. He and Richard Tucker were inseparable. I also remember Georgio Tozzi and Cesare Siepi. Love those basso profundo voices. Funny thing about memories. I can still recite from memory the entire scene with the children and the madman from Boris Godunov. On Sun, Aug 25, 2013 at 8:28 AM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: I have hung out with Sherril Milnes on a couple of occasions. Nice guy, very gracious. Dan who likes Puccini and Verdi On Aug 25, 2013, at 3:15 AM, Gerry Archer wrote: That's remarkable! A Met opera performer on the Mercedes List! A blind, music loving friend has a classical music list. With your permission, I'd like to post this on her list. (Last year?) we saw Natalie Dessay in the title role of Lucia Di Lammermoor on closed circuit. We were anxious to hear her do the Mad Scene and compare it to Joan Sutherlands which we considered the all time peak performance. She didn't do it, but it was probably forgiveable since she was doing something like 6 or 7 performances per week and we doubted that anyone could do a decent Mad Scene that often. When Sutherland did it, you could barely tell her voice from the (flute? piccolo?). Gerry..Okay, okay, I'll shut up about music and get back to Mercedes. [:o) From: Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com I sang in the Met Opera boys' chorus from 7 until my voice changed (11, IIRC). I also had a couple solo roles, one of which included a curtain call as Gherardino in Puccini's one act opera Gianni Schicchi (usually paired with Salome in a double bill). I lost interest in opera until recently. Last show attended was a the Washington Opera performance of Manon Lescaut. On Sat, Aug 24, 2013 at 8:30 PM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote: Yep, they're mighty fine, too. Wilton - Original Message - From: Gerry Archer arche...@embarqmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Saturday, August 24, 2013 8:00 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Louie Louie I liked symphonies as a young person, especially those with a principal performer; Jascha Heifetz, for example. Later preferred opera, and currently prefer vocal performers such as Dimitri Hvorostovsky, Elina Garanca, etc: http://www.youtube.com/watch?**v=OmPI2WNuUzE http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OmPI2WNuUzE http://www.youtube.com/watch?**v=aakfkGBh-fM http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aakfkGBh-fM Gerry Yep; fantastic! A bit late, but very welcomed. Thanks. Wilton - Original Message - From: Gerry Archer arche...@embarqmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Saturday, August 24, 2013 7:20 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Louie Louie http://www.youtube.com/watch?**v=_-mvutiDRvQ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_-mvutiDRvQ Is there an icon on that page we can click right now to hear some symphony? 'Probably good for all of us. ;)) Wilton - Original Message - From: Gerry Archer arche...@embarqmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Saturday, August 24, 2013 6:42 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Louie Louie Beethovens 9th is undoubtedly one of the great compositons of classical music: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/**Symphony_No._9_%28Beethoven%29 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Symphony_No._9_%28Beethoven%29 but you can't really compare classical music to modern music. Modern music can appeal to a much wider range of people than classical music; the lovers of which undoubtedly have a classical gene left
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I got that :) Most of the college age kids aren't being forced :) Luther KB5QHUForest Park, IL '98 ML320 Max (170,xxx mi) On 8/27/2013 7:43 AM, Mitch Haley wrote: Benz Hogs wrote: Not in Chicago. I'm 10-15 years or more older than the youngest every performance I've seen at the Lyric. I think Gary said 'voluntary' attendance. Mitch ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Benz Hogs wrote: I got that :) Most of the college age kids aren't being forced :) Sorry, Zippy. I guess it's hard to think of you as 15 years older than a college kid. That's the category I put Curt in. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Get over it. I'm almost 2 months from 35, that makes it possible for me to have a kid in college Luther KB5QHUForest Park, IL '98 ML320 Max (170,xxx mi) On 8/27/2013 6:46 PM, Mitch Haley wrote: Sorry, Zippy. I guess it's hard to think of you as 15 years older than a college kid. That's the category I put Curt in. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Famous operatic joke. If something is really tedious, you say it's twice as long as Parsifal, but not half as funny On Mon, Aug 26, 2013 at 12:34 AM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote: it was one of the worst experiences in my life :( have you looked at thomas ades yet? On Mon, Aug 26, 2013 at 12:27 AM, Benz Hogs benz-n-h...@gulseth.net wrote: Enjoyed it, but not live, only live-radio. Luther KB5QHUForest Park, IL '98 ML320 Max (170,xxx mi) On 8/25/2013 11:21 PM, Gary Hurst wrote: have you endured parsifal? On Sun, Aug 25, 2013 at 11:57 PM, Benz Hogs benz-n-h...@gulseth.net wrote: Without Wagner, we have no lite-motif and no inspiration for melodrama music or the great Lord of the Rings soundtrack. :) Luther KB5QHUForest Park, IL '98 ML320 Max (170,xxx mi) On 8/25/2013 10:53 PM, Gary Hurst wrote: regarding wagner, __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/ http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.com http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars * *www.BuyEUROparts.com http://www.buyeuroparts.com/* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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over six hours. no real songs at all. i still have nightmares On Mon, Aug 26, 2013 at 2:45 PM, Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.comwrote: Famous operatic joke. If something is really tedious, you say it's twice as long as Parsifal, but not half as funny On Mon, Aug 26, 2013 at 12:34 AM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote: it was one of the worst experiences in my life :( have you looked at thomas ades yet? On Mon, Aug 26, 2013 at 12:27 AM, Benz Hogs benz-n-h...@gulseth.net wrote: Enjoyed it, but not live, only live-radio. Luther KB5QHUForest Park, IL '98 ML320 Max (170,xxx mi) On 8/25/2013 11:21 PM, Gary Hurst wrote: have you endured parsifal? On Sun, Aug 25, 2013 at 11:57 PM, Benz Hogs benz-n-h...@gulseth.net wrote: Without Wagner, we have no lite-motif and no inspiration for melodrama music or the great Lord of the Rings soundtrack. :) Luther KB5QHUForest Park, IL '98 ML320 Max (170,xxx mi) On 8/25/2013 10:53 PM, Gary Hurst wrote: regarding wagner, __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/ http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.com http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars * *www.BuyEUROparts.com http://www.buyeuroparts.com/* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars * *www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Don't worry, I'll subject myself to it this season at the Lyric :) Luther KB5QHUForest Park, IL '98 ML320 Max (170,xxx mi) On 8/26/2013 1:47 PM, Gary Hurst wrote: over six hours. no real songs at all. i still have nightmares ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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a lot of people dig it but it's just pain to me. there are many who think it's the greatest thing ever written. but it's easy to understand what i'm looking for. i like a good compelling story. i like some nice songs. i like a few jokes. i'm the kinda guy who wants to always be seeing don giovanni. or der rosenkavalier. i love der rosenkalier and tend to dig richard strauss. but then something like elektra will just turn me off for lack of jokes and pretty songs. the jokes are big for me. for example, take donizetti. i love l'elisir d'amore but take out the jokes and give me lucia di lammermoor and i'm unhappy only verdi has the power to get over with me without the jokes! On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 1:04 AM, Benz Hogs benz-n-h...@gulseth.net wrote: Don't worry, I'll subject myself to it this season at the Lyric :) Luther KB5QHUForest Park, IL '98 ML320 Max (170,xxx mi) On 8/26/2013 1:47 PM, Gary Hurst wrote: over six hours. no real songs at all. i still have nightmares __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars * *www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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That's remarkable! A Met opera performer on the Mercedes List! A blind, music loving friend has a classical music list. With your permission, I'd like to post this on her list. (Last year?) we saw Natalie Dessay in the title role of Lucia Di Lammermoor on closed circuit. We were anxious to hear her do the Mad Scene and compare it to Joan Sutherlands which we considered the all time peak performance. She didn't do it, but it was probably forgiveable since she was doing something like 6 or 7 performances per week and we doubted that anyone could do a decent Mad Scene that often. When Sutherland did it, you could barely tell her voice from the (flute? piccolo?). Gerry..Okay, okay, I'll shut up about music and get back to Mercedes. [:o) From: Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com I sang in the Met Opera boys' chorus from 7 until my voice changed (11, IIRC). I also had a couple solo roles, one of which included a curtain call as Gherardino in Puccini's one act opera Gianni Schicchi (usually paired with Salome in a double bill). I lost interest in opera until recently. Last show attended was a the Washington Opera performance of Manon Lescaut. On Sat, Aug 24, 2013 at 8:30 PM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote: Yep, they're mighty fine, too. Wilton - Original Message - From: Gerry Archer arche...@embarqmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Saturday, August 24, 2013 8:00 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Louie Louie I liked symphonies as a young person, especially those with a principal performer; Jascha Heifetz, for example. Later preferred opera, and currently prefer vocal performers such as Dimitri Hvorostovsky, Elina Garanca, etc: http://www.youtube.com/watch?**v=OmPI2WNuUzEhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OmPI2WNuUzE http://www.youtube.com/watch?**v=aakfkGBh-fMhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aakfkGBh-fM Gerry Yep; fantastic! A bit late, but very welcomed. Thanks. Wilton - Original Message - From: Gerry Archer arche...@embarqmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Saturday, August 24, 2013 7:20 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Louie Louie http://www.youtube.com/watch?**v=_-mvutiDRvQhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_-mvutiDRvQ Is there an icon on that page we can click right now to hear some symphony? 'Probably good for all of us. ;)) Wilton - Original Message - From: Gerry Archer arche...@embarqmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Saturday, August 24, 2013 6:42 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Louie Louie Beethovens 9th is undoubtedly one of the great compositons of classical music: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/**Symphony_No._9_%28Beethoven%29https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Symphony_No._9_%28Beethoven%29 but you can't really compare classical music to modern music. Modern music can appeal to a much wider range of people than classical music; the lovers of which undoubtedly have a classical gene left over from their ancestors. (I fell in love with classical music at age 6). Classical music has many bizarre forms; partitas for solo violin for example; and the only way to separate the silliness from real music is to state that any work which does not have melody is nonsense; at least to the casual classic music listener. IMO the decline of classical music began with the Rite of Spring, and it's gotten continually worse (Hindemith, et al). Gerry From: OK Don okd...@gmail.com O M G !!! Both examples are black noise. Real music started dying after Beethoven's 9th On Sat, Aug 24, 2013 at 4:25 PM, Gerry Archer arche...@embarqmail.com**wrote: The broad field of nonsense music from which all modern music is derives actually began in the 1920s with a South African song written by a Zulu: Mbube (Zulu: lion) was written in the 1920s by Solomon Linda, a South African singer of Zulu origin, who worked for the Gallo Record Company as a cleaner and record packer, and who performed with a choir, The Evening Birds, where, according to South African journalist Rian Malan: Mbube wasn't the most remarkable tune, but there was something terribly compelling about the underlying chant, a dense meshing of low male voices above which Solomon yodelled and howled for two exhilarating minutes, occasionally making it up as he went along. The third take was the great one, but it achieved immortality only in its dying seconds, when Solly [Solomon Linda] took a deep breath, opened his mouth and improvised the melody that the world now associates with these words: 'In the jungle, the mighty jungle, the lion sleeps tonight.' Linda's improvised melody was wordless; no English words occur in the recording. Issued by Gallo as a 78 recording in 1939 and marketed to black audiences, Mbube became a hit and Linda a star throughout South Africa. By 1948, the song had sold about 100,000 copies in Africa and among black South African immigrants in Great Britain and had lent its name
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You people are all so low brow, this is the good stuff http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pDHzK3Xe7Yw Hendrik who has excellent taste in muzak On 25/08/13 16:45, Gerry Archer wrote: That's remarkable! A Met opera performer on the Mercedes List! A blind, music loving friend has a classical music list. With your permission, I'd like to post this on her list. (Last year?) we saw Natalie Dessay in the title role of Lucia Di Lammermoor on closed circuit. We were anxious to hear her do the Mad Scene and compare it to Joan Sutherlands which we considered the all time peak performance. She didn't do it, but it was probably forgiveable since she was doing something like 6 or 7 performances per week and we doubted that anyone could do a decent Mad Scene that often. When Sutherland did it, you could barely tell her voice from the (flute? piccolo?). Gerry..Okay, okay, I'll shut up about music and get back to Mercedes. [:o) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Delightful! On Sun, Aug 25, 2013 at 3:37 AM, Hendrik and Fay heni...@gmail.com wrote: You people are all so low brow, this is the good stuff http://www.youtube.com/watch?**v=pDHzK3Xe7Ywhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pDHzK3Xe7Yw Hendrik who has excellent taste in muzak On 25/08/13 16:45, Gerry Archer wrote: That's remarkable! A Met opera performer on the Mercedes List! A blind, music loving friend has a classical music list. With your permission, I'd like to post this on her list. (Last year?) we saw Natalie Dessay in the title role of Lucia Di Lammermoor on closed circuit. We were anxious to hear her do the Mad Scene and compare it to Joan Sutherlands which we considered the all time peak performance. She didn't do it, but it was probably forgiveable since she was doing something like 6 or 7 performances per week and we doubted that anyone could do a decent Mad Scene that often. When Sutherland did it, you could barely tell her voice from the (flute? piccolo?). Gerry..Okay, okay, I'll shut up about music and get back to Mercedes. [:o) __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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I have hung out with Sherril Milnes on a couple of occasions. Nice guy, very gracious. Dan who likes Puccini and Verdi On Aug 25, 2013, at 3:15 AM, Gerry Archer wrote: That's remarkable! A Met opera performer on the Mercedes List! A blind, music loving friend has a classical music list. With your permission, I'd like to post this on her list. (Last year?) we saw Natalie Dessay in the title role of Lucia Di Lammermoor on closed circuit. We were anxious to hear her do the Mad Scene and compare it to Joan Sutherlands which we considered the all time peak performance. She didn't do it, but it was probably forgiveable since she was doing something like 6 or 7 performances per week and we doubted that anyone could do a decent Mad Scene that often. When Sutherland did it, you could barely tell her voice from the (flute? piccolo?). Gerry..Okay, okay, I'll shut up about music and get back to Mercedes. [:o) From: Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com I sang in the Met Opera boys' chorus from 7 until my voice changed (11, IIRC). I also had a couple solo roles, one of which included a curtain call as Gherardino in Puccini's one act opera Gianni Schicchi (usually paired with Salome in a double bill). I lost interest in opera until recently. Last show attended was a the Washington Opera performance of Manon Lescaut. On Sat, Aug 24, 2013 at 8:30 PM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote: Yep, they're mighty fine, too. Wilton - Original Message - From: Gerry Archer arche...@embarqmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Saturday, August 24, 2013 8:00 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Louie Louie I liked symphonies as a young person, especially those with a principal performer; Jascha Heifetz, for example. Later preferred opera, and currently prefer vocal performers such as Dimitri Hvorostovsky, Elina Garanca, etc: http://www.youtube.com/watch?**v=OmPI2WNuUzEhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OmPI2WNuUzE http://www.youtube.com/watch?**v=aakfkGBh-fMhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aakfkGBh-fM Gerry Yep; fantastic! A bit late, but very welcomed. Thanks. Wilton - Original Message - From: Gerry Archer arche...@embarqmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Saturday, August 24, 2013 7:20 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Louie Louie http://www.youtube.com/watch?**v=_-mvutiDRvQhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_-mvutiDRvQ Is there an icon on that page we can click right now to hear some symphony? 'Probably good for all of us. ;)) Wilton - Original Message - From: Gerry Archer arche...@embarqmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Saturday, August 24, 2013 6:42 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Louie Louie Beethovens 9th is undoubtedly one of the great compositons of classical music: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/**Symphony_No._9_%28Beethoven%29https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Symphony_No._9_%28Beethoven%29 but you can't really compare classical music to modern music. Modern music can appeal to a much wider range of people than classical music; the lovers of which undoubtedly have a classical gene left over from their ancestors. (I fell in love with classical music at age 6). Classical music has many bizarre forms; partitas for solo violin for example; and the only way to separate the silliness from real music is to state that any work which does not have melody is nonsense; at least to the casual classic music listener. IMO the decline of classical music began with the Rite of Spring, and it's gotten continually worse (Hindemith, et al). Gerry From: OK Don okd...@gmail.com O M G !!! Both examples are black noise. Real music started dying after Beethoven's 9th On Sat, Aug 24, 2013 at 4:25 PM, Gerry Archer arche...@embarqmail.com**wrote: The broad field of nonsense music from which all modern music is derives actually began in the 1920s with a South African song written by a Zulu: Mbube (Zulu: lion) was written in the 1920s by Solomon Linda, a South African singer of Zulu origin, who worked for the Gallo Record Company as a cleaner and record packer, and who performed with a choir, The Evening Birds, where, according to South African journalist Rian Malan: Mbube wasn't the most remarkable tune, but there was something terribly compelling about the underlying chant, a dense meshing of low male voices above which Solomon yodelled and howled for two exhilarating minutes, occasionally making it up as he went along. The third take was the great one, but it achieved immortality only in its dying seconds, when Solly [Solomon Linda] took a deep breath, opened his mouth and improvised the melody that the world now associates with these words: 'In the jungle, the mighty jungle, the lion sleeps tonight.' Linda's improvised melody was wordless; no English words occur in the recording
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Uh, no. Try Mahler, Brahms, Bruckner, Dvorak, Berlioz, Wagner, Puccinni, Rossini, Faure, Debussy, Mendelssohn, Chopin, Liszt, Schumann, Verdi, Smetana, Strauss clan, Tchaikovsky, Greig, Rachmaninoff, oh my, where do I stop! That's not even half of the names in my CD library. Don't get me wrong, I love me some of the fire and tenderness of Beethoven, but real music was just getting started. Freude! Luther KB5QHUForest Park, IL '98 ML320 Max (170,xxx mi) On 8/24/2013 4:34 PM, OK Don wrote: O M G !!! Both examples are black noise. Real music started dying after Beethoven's 9th ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Not in Chicago. I'm 10-15 years or more older than the youngest every performance I've seen at the Lyric. Luther KB5QHUForest Park, IL '98 ML320 Max (165,xxx mi) On 8/24/2013 7:05 PM, Gary Hurst wrote: i became an opera fan a year ago. i spent my whole life thinking opera was some kind of fancy thing for pretentious rich people. then i ended up seeing one and was oh, wow, this is great so now i subscribe to my local opera company and go see the met stuff at the theater, but i don't see much future for opera as i'm generally the youngest person there who went voluntarily ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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regarding wagner, you clearly missed my review of parsifal, so i will share it with you here: parsifal is like getting kicked in the balls for six hours straight. it may end up the most profoundly meaningful experience of one's life, but why would anyone do it voluntarily? On Sun, Aug 25, 2013 at 11:40 PM, Benz Hogs benz-n-h...@gulseth.net wrote: Uh, no. Try Mahler, Brahms, Bruckner, Dvorak, Berlioz, Wagner, Puccinni, Rossini, Faure, Debussy, Mendelssohn, Chopin, Liszt, Schumann, Verdi, Smetana, Strauss clan, Tchaikovsky, Greig, Rachmaninoff, oh my, where do I stop! That's not even half of the names in my CD library. Don't get me wrong, I love me some of the fire and tenderness of Beethoven, but real music was just getting started. Freude! Luther KB5QHUForest Park, IL '98 ML320 Max (170,xxx mi) On 8/24/2013 4:34 PM, OK Don wrote: O M G !!! Both examples are black noise. Real music started dying after Beethoven's 9th __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars * *www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Sam Ramey teaches 8 miles away from where I live and I've watched two of his master classes recently. I've also had lessons and a master class from Ariel Bybee, 18 year vet of the Met Chorus. Luther KB5QHUForest Park, IL '98 ML320 Max (170,xxx mi) On 8/25/2013 7:28 AM, Dan Penoff wrote: I have hung out with Sherril Milnes on a couple of occasions. Nice guy, very gracious. Dan who likes Puccini and Verdi ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Without Wagner, we have no lite-motif and no inspiration for melodrama music or the great Lord of the Rings soundtrack. :) Luther KB5QHUForest Park, IL '98 ML320 Max (170,xxx mi) On 8/25/2013 10:53 PM, Gary Hurst wrote: regarding wagner, ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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have you endured parsifal? On Sun, Aug 25, 2013 at 11:57 PM, Benz Hogs benz-n-h...@gulseth.net wrote: Without Wagner, we have no lite-motif and no inspiration for melodrama music or the great Lord of the Rings soundtrack. :) Luther KB5QHUForest Park, IL '98 ML320 Max (170,xxx mi) On 8/25/2013 10:53 PM, Gary Hurst wrote: regarding wagner, __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars * *www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Enjoyed it, but not live, only live-radio. Luther KB5QHUForest Park, IL '98 ML320 Max (170,xxx mi) On 8/25/2013 11:21 PM, Gary Hurst wrote: have you endured parsifal? On Sun, Aug 25, 2013 at 11:57 PM, Benz Hogs benz-n-h...@gulseth.net wrote: Without Wagner, we have no lite-motif and no inspiration for melodrama music or the great Lord of the Rings soundtrack. :) Luther KB5QHUForest Park, IL '98 ML320 Max (170,xxx mi) On 8/25/2013 10:53 PM, Gary Hurst wrote: regarding wagner, ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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it was one of the worst experiences in my life :( have you looked at thomas ades yet? On Mon, Aug 26, 2013 at 12:27 AM, Benz Hogs benz-n-h...@gulseth.net wrote: Enjoyed it, but not live, only live-radio. Luther KB5QHUForest Park, IL '98 ML320 Max (170,xxx mi) On 8/25/2013 11:21 PM, Gary Hurst wrote: have you endured parsifal? On Sun, Aug 25, 2013 at 11:57 PM, Benz Hogs benz-n-h...@gulseth.net wrote: Without Wagner, we have no lite-motif and no inspiration for melodrama music or the great Lord of the Rings soundtrack. :) Luther KB5QHUForest Park, IL '98 ML320 Max (170,xxx mi) On 8/25/2013 10:53 PM, Gary Hurst wrote: regarding wagner, __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars * *www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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The broad field of nonsense music from which all modern music is derives actually began in the 1920s with a South African song written by a Zulu: Mbube (Zulu: lion) was written in the 1920s by Solomon Linda, a South African singer of Zulu origin, who worked for the Gallo Record Company as a cleaner and record packer, and who performed with a choir, The Evening Birds, where, according to South African journalist Rian Malan: Mbube wasn't the most remarkable tune, but there was something terribly compelling about the underlying chant, a dense meshing of low male voices above which Solomon yodelled and howled for two exhilarating minutes, occasionally making it up as he went along. The third take was the great one, but it achieved immortality only in its dying seconds, when Solly [Solomon Linda] took a deep breath, opened his mouth and improvised the melody that the world now associates with these words: 'In the jungle, the mighty jungle, the lion sleeps tonight.' Linda's improvised melody was wordless; no English words occur in the recording. Issued by Gallo as a 78 recording in 1939 and marketed to black audiences, Mbube became a hit and Linda a star throughout South Africa. By 1948, the song had sold about 100,000 copies in Africa and among black South African immigrants in Great Britain and had lent its name to a style of African a cappella music that evolved into isicathamiya (also called mbube), popularized by Ladysmith Black Mambazo.snip http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1v=_LBmUwi6mEofeature=endscreen As everyone knows this led to scream music, ( Barbra Streisand and others), which has become the current female standard; and all the infinitely variegated forms of lunatic music (Grateful Dead, Punk, etc.) as a primary cause of the current decline of Western Civilization. Ou only hope is to go back to real music as best demonstrated by Lawrence Welk. Gerrytic .. From: Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net I am out working on my addition, listening to KPFT Houston streaming over the tubernets, and they just played a set of songs about Louie Louie. How many of y'all remember Louie Louie by the Kingsmen? It caused all kinds of stir, clearly the commienists were behind it, subverting the morals of Merkin youth with that filthy rocknroll trash. We knew it had dirty lyrics but no one could figure out what they were. We would spontaneously break into playing that in band class in jr high, the band teacher Mr. Broome who was about 5ft tall and wide, and who hated that song with a passion (which of course became the lore of Mr. Broome that all kids knew, passed along, remembered, etc.) would go into an altered state when he heard us playing it before class started. It was the most awesome thing about band class. I think it was the only song we all learned to play without music and a band leader, go figure. After the first two years there he retired, another guy took over, a young guy, we tried that once and he had no issue with it so it just faded away but then the Laugh In song became popular and he had issues with that, so of course what did we do! --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.2242 / Virus Database: 3211/6103 - Release Date: 08/23/13 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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O M G !!! Both examples are black noise. Real music started dying after Beethoven's 9th On Sat, Aug 24, 2013 at 4:25 PM, Gerry Archer arche...@embarqmail.comwrote: The broad field of nonsense music from which all modern music is derives actually began in the 1920s with a South African song written by a Zulu: Mbube (Zulu: lion) was written in the 1920s by Solomon Linda, a South African singer of Zulu origin, who worked for the Gallo Record Company as a cleaner and record packer, and who performed with a choir, The Evening Birds, where, according to South African journalist Rian Malan: Mbube wasn't the most remarkable tune, but there was something terribly compelling about the underlying chant, a dense meshing of low male voices above which Solomon yodelled and howled for two exhilarating minutes, occasionally making it up as he went along. The third take was the great one, but it achieved immortality only in its dying seconds, when Solly [Solomon Linda] took a deep breath, opened his mouth and improvised the melody that the world now associates with these words: 'In the jungle, the mighty jungle, the lion sleeps tonight.' Linda's improvised melody was wordless; no English words occur in the recording. Issued by Gallo as a 78 recording in 1939 and marketed to black audiences, Mbube became a hit and Linda a star throughout South Africa. By 1948, the song had sold about 100,000 copies in Africa and among black South African immigrants in Great Britain and had lent its name to a style of African a cappella music that evolved into isicathamiya (also called mbube), popularized by Ladysmith Black Mambazo.snip http://www.youtube.com/watch?**NR=1v=_LBmUwi6mEofeature=**endscreenhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1v=_LBmUwi6mEofeature=endscreen As everyone knows this led to scream music, ( Barbra Streisand and others), which has become the current female standard; and all the infinitely variegated forms of lunatic music (Grateful Dead, Punk, etc.) as a primary cause of the current decline of Western Civilization. Ou only hope is to go back to real music as best demonstrated by Lawrence Welk. Gerrytic ..** From: Rich Thomas richthomas79TD300@**constructivity.netrichthomas79td...@constructivity.net I am out working on my addition, listening to KPFT Houston streaming over the tubernets, and they just played a set of songs about Louie Louie. How many of y'all remember Louie Louie by the Kingsmen? It caused all kinds of stir, clearly the commienists were behind it, subverting the morals of Merkin youth with that filthy rocknroll trash. We knew it had dirty lyrics but no one could figure out what they were. We would spontaneously break into playing that in band class in jr high, the band teacher Mr. Broome who was about 5ft tall and wide, and who hated that song with a passion (which of course became the lore of Mr. Broome that all kids knew, passed along, remembered, etc.) would go into an altered state when he heard us playing it before class started. It was the most awesome thing about band class. I think it was the only song we all learned to play without music and a band leader, go figure. After the first two years there he retired, another guy took over, a young guy, we tried that once and he had no issue with it so it just faded away but then the Laugh In song became popular and he had issues with that, so of course what did we do! --R __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.2242 / Virus Database: 3211/6103 - Release Date: 08/23/13 __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- OK Don They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. - Benjamin Franklin 1775 in this world nothing can be said to be certain, except death and taxes. - Benjamin Franklin 1789 2013 F150, 19 mpg 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 45 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Beethovens 9th is undoubtedly one of the great compositons of classical music: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Symphony_No._9_%28Beethoven%29 but you can't really compare classical music to modern music. Modern music can appeal to a much wider range of people than classical music; the lovers of which undoubtedly have a classical gene left over from their ancestors. (I fell in love with classical music at age 6). Classical music has many bizarre forms; partitas for solo violin for example; and the only way to separate the silliness from real music is to state that any work which does not have melody is nonsense; at least to the casual classic music listener. IMO the decline of classical music began with the Rite of Spring, and it's gotten continually worse (Hindemith, et al). Gerry From: OK Don okd...@gmail.com O M G !!! Both examples are black noise. Real music started dying after Beethoven's 9th On Sat, Aug 24, 2013 at 4:25 PM, Gerry Archer arche...@embarqmail.comwrote: The broad field of nonsense music from which all modern music is derives actually began in the 1920s with a South African song written by a Zulu: Mbube (Zulu: lion) was written in the 1920s by Solomon Linda, a South African singer of Zulu origin, who worked for the Gallo Record Company as a cleaner and record packer, and who performed with a choir, The Evening Birds, where, according to South African journalist Rian Malan: Mbube wasn't the most remarkable tune, but there was something terribly compelling about the underlying chant, a dense meshing of low male voices above which Solomon yodelled and howled for two exhilarating minutes, occasionally making it up as he went along. The third take was the great one, but it achieved immortality only in its dying seconds, when Solly [Solomon Linda] took a deep breath, opened his mouth and improvised the melody that the world now associates with these words: 'In the jungle, the mighty jungle, the lion sleeps tonight.' Linda's improvised melody was wordless; no English words occur in the recording. Issued by Gallo as a 78 recording in 1939 and marketed to black audiences, Mbube became a hit and Linda a star throughout South Africa. By 1948, the song had sold about 100,000 copies in Africa and among black South African immigrants in Great Britain and had lent its name to a style of African a cappella music that evolved into isicathamiya (also called mbube), popularized by Ladysmith Black Mambazo.snip http://www.youtube.com/watch?**NR=1v=_LBmUwi6mEofeature=**endscreenhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1v=_LBmUwi6mEofeature=endscreen As everyone knows this led to scream music, ( Barbra Streisand and others), which has become the current female standard; and all the infinitely variegated forms of lunatic music (Grateful Dead, Punk, etc.) as a primary cause of the current decline of Western Civilization. Ou only hope is to go back to real music as best demonstrated by Lawrence Welk. Gerrytic ..** From: Rich Thomas richthomas79TD300@**constructivity.netrichthomas79td...@constructivity.net I am out working on my addition, listening to KPFT Houston streaming over the tubernets, and they just played a set of songs about Louie Louie. How many of y'all remember Louie Louie by the Kingsmen? It caused all kinds of stir, clearly the commienists were behind it, subverting the morals of Merkin youth with that filthy rocknroll trash. We knew it had dirty lyrics but no one could figure out what they were. We would spontaneously break into playing that in band class in jr high, the band teacher Mr. Broome who was about 5ft tall and wide, and who hated that song with a passion (which of course became the lore of Mr. Broome that all kids knew, passed along, remembered, etc.) would go into an altered state when he heard us playing it before class started. It was the most awesome thing about band class. I think it was the only song we all learned to play without music and a band leader, go figure. After the first two years there he retired, another guy took over, a young guy, we tried that once and he had no issue with it so it just faded away but then the Laugh In song became popular and he had issues with that, so of course what did we do! --R __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.2242 / Virus Database: 3211/6103 - Release Date: 08/23/13 __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or
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Is there an icon on that page we can click right now to hear some symphony? 'Probably good for all of us. ;)) Wilton - Original Message - From: Gerry Archer arche...@embarqmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Saturday, August 24, 2013 6:42 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Louie Louie Beethovens 9th is undoubtedly one of the great compositons of classical music: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Symphony_No._9_%28Beethoven%29 but you can't really compare classical music to modern music. Modern music can appeal to a much wider range of people than classical music; the lovers of which undoubtedly have a classical gene left over from their ancestors. (I fell in love with classical music at age 6). Classical music has many bizarre forms; partitas for solo violin for example; and the only way to separate the silliness from real music is to state that any work which does not have melody is nonsense; at least to the casual classic music listener. IMO the decline of classical music began with the Rite of Spring, and it's gotten continually worse (Hindemith, et al). Gerry From: OK Don okd...@gmail.com O M G !!! Both examples are black noise. Real music started dying after Beethoven's 9th On Sat, Aug 24, 2013 at 4:25 PM, Gerry Archer arche...@embarqmail.comwrote: The broad field of nonsense music from which all modern music is derives actually began in the 1920s with a South African song written by a Zulu: Mbube (Zulu: lion) was written in the 1920s by Solomon Linda, a South African singer of Zulu origin, who worked for the Gallo Record Company as a cleaner and record packer, and who performed with a choir, The Evening Birds, where, according to South African journalist Rian Malan: Mbube wasn't the most remarkable tune, but there was something terribly compelling about the underlying chant, a dense meshing of low male voices above which Solomon yodelled and howled for two exhilarating minutes, occasionally making it up as he went along. The third take was the great one, but it achieved immortality only in its dying seconds, when Solly [Solomon Linda] took a deep breath, opened his mouth and improvised the melody that the world now associates with these words: 'In the jungle, the mighty jungle, the lion sleeps tonight.' Linda's improvised melody was wordless; no English words occur in the recording. Issued by Gallo as a 78 recording in 1939 and marketed to black audiences, Mbube became a hit and Linda a star throughout South Africa. By 1948, the song had sold about 100,000 copies in Africa and among black South African immigrants in Great Britain and had lent its name to a style of African a cappella music that evolved into isicathamiya (also called mbube), popularized by Ladysmith Black Mambazo.snip http://www.youtube.com/watch?**NR=1v=_LBmUwi6mEofeature=**endscreenhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1v=_LBmUwi6mEofeature=endscreen As everyone knows this led to scream music, ( Barbra Streisand and others), which has become the current female standard; and all the infinitely variegated forms of lunatic music (Grateful Dead, Punk, etc.) as a primary cause of the current decline of Western Civilization. Ou only hope is to go back to real music as best demonstrated by Lawrence Welk. Gerrytic ..** From: Rich Thomas richthomas79TD300@**constructivity.netrichthomas79td...@constructivity.net I am out working on my addition, listening to KPFT Houston streaming over the tubernets, and they just played a set of songs about Louie Louie. How many of y'all remember Louie Louie by the Kingsmen? It caused all kinds of stir, clearly the commienists were behind it, subverting the morals of Merkin youth with that filthy rocknroll trash. We knew it had dirty lyrics but no one could figure out what they were. We would spontaneously break into playing that in band class in jr high, the band teacher Mr. Broome who was about 5ft tall and wide, and who hated that song with a passion (which of course became the lore of Mr. Broome that all kids knew, passed along, remembered, etc.) would go into an altered state when he heard us playing it before class started. It was the most awesome thing about band class. I think it was the only song we all learned to play without music and a band leader, go figure. After the first two years there he retired, another guy took over, a young guy, we tried that once and he had no issue with it so it just faded away but then the Laugh In song became popular and he had issues with that, so of course what did we do! --R __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_-mvutiDRvQ Is there an icon on that page we can click right now to hear some symphony? 'Probably good for all of us. ;)) Wilton - Original Message - From: Gerry Archer arche...@embarqmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Saturday, August 24, 2013 6:42 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Louie Louie Beethovens 9th is undoubtedly one of the great compositons of classical music: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Symphony_No._9_%28Beethoven%29 but you can't really compare classical music to modern music. Modern music can appeal to a much wider range of people than classical music; the lovers of which undoubtedly have a classical gene left over from their ancestors. (I fell in love with classical music at age 6). Classical music has many bizarre forms; partitas for solo violin for example; and the only way to separate the silliness from real music is to state that any work which does not have melody is nonsense; at least to the casual classic music listener. IMO the decline of classical music began with the Rite of Spring, and it's gotten continually worse (Hindemith, et al). Gerry From: OK Don okd...@gmail.com O M G !!! Both examples are black noise. Real music started dying after Beethoven's 9th On Sat, Aug 24, 2013 at 4:25 PM, Gerry Archer arche...@embarqmail.comwrote: The broad field of nonsense music from which all modern music is derives actually began in the 1920s with a South African song written by a Zulu: Mbube (Zulu: lion) was written in the 1920s by Solomon Linda, a South African singer of Zulu origin, who worked for the Gallo Record Company as a cleaner and record packer, and who performed with a choir, The Evening Birds, where, according to South African journalist Rian Malan: Mbube wasn't the most remarkable tune, but there was something terribly compelling about the underlying chant, a dense meshing of low male voices above which Solomon yodelled and howled for two exhilarating minutes, occasionally making it up as he went along. The third take was the great one, but it achieved immortality only in its dying seconds, when Solly [Solomon Linda] took a deep breath, opened his mouth and improvised the melody that the world now associates with these words: 'In the jungle, the mighty jungle, the lion sleeps tonight.' Linda's improvised melody was wordless; no English words occur in the recording. Issued by Gallo as a 78 recording in 1939 and marketed to black audiences, Mbube became a hit and Linda a star throughout South Africa. By 1948, the song had sold about 100,000 copies in Africa and among black South African immigrants in Great Britain and had lent its name to a style of African a cappella music that evolved into isicathamiya (also called mbube), popularized by Ladysmith Black Mambazo.snip http://www.youtube.com/watch?**NR=1v=_LBmUwi6mEofeature=**endscreenhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1v=_LBmUwi6mEofeature=endscreen As everyone knows this led to scream music, ( Barbra Streisand and others), which has become the current female standard; and all the infinitely variegated forms of lunatic music (Grateful Dead, Punk, etc.) as a primary cause of the current decline of Western Civilization. Ou only hope is to go back to real music as best demonstrated by Lawrence Welk. Gerrytic ..** From: Rich Thomas richthomas79TD300@**constructivity.netrichthomas79td...@constructivity.net I am out working on my addition, listening to KPFT Houston streaming over the tubernets, and they just played a set of songs about Louie Louie. How many of y'all remember Louie Louie by the Kingsmen? It caused all kinds of stir, clearly the commienists were behind it, subverting the morals of Merkin youth with that filthy rocknroll trash. We knew it had dirty lyrics but no one could figure out what they were. We would spontaneously break into playing that in band class in jr high, the band teacher Mr. Broome who was about 5ft tall and wide, and who hated that song with a passion (which of course became the lore of Mr. Broome that all kids knew, passed along, remembered, etc.) would go into an altered state when he heard us playing it before class started. It was the most awesome thing about band class. I think it was the only song we all learned to play without music and a band leader, go figure. After the first two years there he retired, another guy took over, a young guy, we tried that once and he had no issue with it so it just faded away but then the Laugh In song became popular and he had issues with that, so of course what did we do! --R __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp
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Yep; fantastic! A bit late, but very welcomed. Thanks. Wilton - Original Message - From: Gerry Archer arche...@embarqmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Saturday, August 24, 2013 7:20 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Louie Louie http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_-mvutiDRvQ Is there an icon on that page we can click right now to hear some symphony? 'Probably good for all of us. ;)) Wilton - Original Message - From: Gerry Archer arche...@embarqmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Saturday, August 24, 2013 6:42 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Louie Louie Beethovens 9th is undoubtedly one of the great compositons of classical music: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Symphony_No._9_%28Beethoven%29 but you can't really compare classical music to modern music. Modern music can appeal to a much wider range of people than classical music; the lovers of which undoubtedly have a classical gene left over from their ancestors. (I fell in love with classical music at age 6). Classical music has many bizarre forms; partitas for solo violin for example; and the only way to separate the silliness from real music is to state that any work which does not have melody is nonsense; at least to the casual classic music listener. IMO the decline of classical music began with the Rite of Spring, and it's gotten continually worse (Hindemith, et al). Gerry From: OK Don okd...@gmail.com O M G !!! Both examples are black noise. Real music started dying after Beethoven's 9th On Sat, Aug 24, 2013 at 4:25 PM, Gerry Archer arche...@embarqmail.comwrote: The broad field of nonsense music from which all modern music is derives actually began in the 1920s with a South African song written by a Zulu: Mbube (Zulu: lion) was written in the 1920s by Solomon Linda, a South African singer of Zulu origin, who worked for the Gallo Record Company as a cleaner and record packer, and who performed with a choir, The Evening Birds, where, according to South African journalist Rian Malan: Mbube wasn't the most remarkable tune, but there was something terribly compelling about the underlying chant, a dense meshing of low male voices above which Solomon yodelled and howled for two exhilarating minutes, occasionally making it up as he went along. The third take was the great one, but it achieved immortality only in its dying seconds, when Solly [Solomon Linda] took a deep breath, opened his mouth and improvised the melody that the world now associates with these words: 'In the jungle, the mighty jungle, the lion sleeps tonight.' Linda's improvised melody was wordless; no English words occur in the recording. Issued by Gallo as a 78 recording in 1939 and marketed to black audiences, Mbube became a hit and Linda a star throughout South Africa. By 1948, the song had sold about 100,000 copies in Africa and among black South African immigrants in Great Britain and had lent its name to a style of African a cappella music that evolved into isicathamiya (also called mbube), popularized by Ladysmith Black Mambazo.snip http://www.youtube.com/watch?**NR=1v=_LBmUwi6mEofeature=**endscreenhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1v=_LBmUwi6mEofeature=endscreen As everyone knows this led to scream music, ( Barbra Streisand and others), which has become the current female standard; and all the infinitely variegated forms of lunatic music (Grateful Dead, Punk, etc.) as a primary cause of the current decline of Western Civilization. Ou only hope is to go back to real music as best demonstrated by Lawrence Welk. Gerrytic ..** From: Rich Thomas richthomas79TD300@**constructivity.netrichthomas79td...@constructivity.net I am out working on my addition, listening to KPFT Houston streaming over the tubernets, and they just played a set of songs about Louie Louie. How many of y'all remember Louie Louie by the Kingsmen? It caused all kinds of stir, clearly the commienists were behind it, subverting the morals of Merkin youth with that filthy rocknroll trash. We knew it had dirty lyrics but no one could figure out what they were. We would spontaneously break into playing that in band class in jr high, the band teacher Mr. Broome who was about 5ft tall and wide, and who hated that song with a passion (which of course became the lore of Mr. Broome that all kids knew, passed along, remembered, etc.) would go into an altered state when he heard us playing it before class started. It was the most awesome thing about band class. I think it was the only song we all learned to play without music and a band leader, go figure. After the first two years there he retired, another guy took over, a young guy, we tried that once and he had no issue with it so it just faded away but then the Laugh In song became popular and he had issues with that, so of course what did we do! --R
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I liked symphonies as a young person, especially those with a principal performer; Jascha Heifetz, for example. Later preferred opera, and currently prefer vocal performers such as Dimitri Hvorostovsky, Elina Garanca, etc: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OmPI2WNuUzE http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aakfkGBh-fM Gerry Yep; fantastic! A bit late, but very welcomed. Thanks. Wilton - Original Message - From: Gerry Archer arche...@embarqmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Saturday, August 24, 2013 7:20 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Louie Louie http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_-mvutiDRvQ Is there an icon on that page we can click right now to hear some symphony? 'Probably good for all of us. ;)) Wilton - Original Message - From: Gerry Archer arche...@embarqmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Saturday, August 24, 2013 6:42 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Louie Louie Beethovens 9th is undoubtedly one of the great compositons of classical music: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Symphony_No._9_%28Beethoven%29 but you can't really compare classical music to modern music. Modern music can appeal to a much wider range of people than classical music; the lovers of which undoubtedly have a classical gene left over from their ancestors. (I fell in love with classical music at age 6). Classical music has many bizarre forms; partitas for solo violin for example; and the only way to separate the silliness from real music is to state that any work which does not have melody is nonsense; at least to the casual classic music listener. IMO the decline of classical music began with the Rite of Spring, and it's gotten continually worse (Hindemith, et al). Gerry From: OK Don okd...@gmail.com O M G !!! Both examples are black noise. Real music started dying after Beethoven's 9th On Sat, Aug 24, 2013 at 4:25 PM, Gerry Archer arche...@embarqmail.comwrote: The broad field of nonsense music from which all modern music is derives actually began in the 1920s with a South African song written by a Zulu: Mbube (Zulu: lion) was written in the 1920s by Solomon Linda, a South African singer of Zulu origin, who worked for the Gallo Record Company as a cleaner and record packer, and who performed with a choir, The Evening Birds, where, according to South African journalist Rian Malan: Mbube wasn't the most remarkable tune, but there was something terribly compelling about the underlying chant, a dense meshing of low male voices above which Solomon yodelled and howled for two exhilarating minutes, occasionally making it up as he went along. The third take was the great one, but it achieved immortality only in its dying seconds, when Solly [Solomon Linda] took a deep breath, opened his mouth and improvised the melody that the world now associates with these words: 'In the jungle, the mighty jungle, the lion sleeps tonight.' Linda's improvised melody was wordless; no English words occur in the recording. Issued by Gallo as a 78 recording in 1939 and marketed to black audiences, Mbube became a hit and Linda a star throughout South Africa. By 1948, the song had sold about 100,000 copies in Africa and among black South African immigrants in Great Britain and had lent its name to a style of African a cappella music that evolved into isicathamiya (also called mbube), popularized by Ladysmith Black Mambazo.snip http://www.youtube.com/watch?**NR=1v=_LBmUwi6mEofeature=**endscreenhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1v=_LBmUwi6mEofeature=endscreen As everyone knows this led to scream music, ( Barbra Streisand and others), which has become the current female standard; and all the infinitely variegated forms of lunatic music (Grateful Dead, Punk, etc.) as a primary cause of the current decline of Western Civilization. Ou only hope is to go back to real music as best demonstrated by Lawrence Welk. Gerrytic ..** From: Rich Thomas richthomas79TD300@**constructivity.netrichthomas79td...@constructivity.net I am out working on my addition, listening to KPFT Houston streaming over the tubernets, and they just played a set of songs about Louie Louie. How many of y'all remember Louie Louie by the Kingsmen? It caused all kinds of stir, clearly the commienists were behind it, subverting the morals of Merkin youth with that filthy rocknroll trash. We knew it had dirty lyrics but no one could figure out what they were. We would spontaneously break into playing that in band class in jr high, the band teacher Mr. Broome who was about 5ft tall and wide, and who hated that song with a passion (which of course became the lore of Mr. Broome that all kids knew, passed along, remembered, etc.) would go into an altered state when he heard us playing it before class started. It was the most awesome thing about band class. I think it was the only song we all learned to play
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i became an opera fan a year ago. i spent my whole life thinking opera was some kind of fancy thing for pretentious rich people. then i ended up seeing one and was oh, wow, this is great so now i subscribe to my local opera company and go see the met stuff at the theater, but i don't see much future for opera as i'm generally the youngest person there who went voluntarily On Sat, Aug 24, 2013 at 8:00 PM, Gerry Archer arche...@embarqmail.comwrote: I liked symphonies as a young person, especially those with a principal performer; Jascha Heifetz, for example. Later preferred opera, and currently prefer vocal performers such as Dimitri Hvorostovsky, Elina Garanca, etc: http://www.youtube.com/watch?**v=OmPI2WNuUzEhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OmPI2WNuUzE http://www.youtube.com/watch?**v=aakfkGBh-fMhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aakfkGBh-fM Gerry Yep; fantastic! A bit late, but very welcomed. Thanks. Wilton - Original Message - From: Gerry Archer arche...@embarqmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Saturday, August 24, 2013 7:20 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Louie Louie http://www.youtube.com/watch?**v=_-mvutiDRvQhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_-mvutiDRvQ Is there an icon on that page we can click right now to hear some symphony? 'Probably good for all of us. ;)) Wilton - Original Message - From: Gerry Archer arche...@embarqmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Saturday, August 24, 2013 6:42 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Louie Louie Beethovens 9th is undoubtedly one of the great compositons of classical music: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/**Symphony_No._9_%28Beethoven%29https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Symphony_No._9_%28Beethoven%29 but you can't really compare classical music to modern music. Modern music can appeal to a much wider range of people than classical music; the lovers of which undoubtedly have a classical gene left over from their ancestors. (I fell in love with classical music at age 6). Classical music has many bizarre forms; partitas for solo violin for example; and the only way to separate the silliness from real music is to state that any work which does not have melody is nonsense; at least to the casual classic music listener. IMO the decline of classical music began with the Rite of Spring, and it's gotten continually worse (Hindemith, et al). Gerry From: OK Don okd...@gmail.com O M G !!! Both examples are black noise. Real music started dying after Beethoven's 9th On Sat, Aug 24, 2013 at 4:25 PM, Gerry Archer arche...@embarqmail.com**wrote: The broad field of nonsense music from which all modern music is derives actually began in the 1920s with a South African song written by a Zulu: Mbube (Zulu: lion) was written in the 1920s by Solomon Linda, a South African singer of Zulu origin, who worked for the Gallo Record Company as a cleaner and record packer, and who performed with a choir, The Evening Birds, where, according to South African journalist Rian Malan: Mbube wasn't the most remarkable tune, but there was something terribly compelling about the underlying chant, a dense meshing of low male voices above which Solomon yodelled and howled for two exhilarating minutes, occasionally making it up as he went along. The third take was the great one, but it achieved immortality only in its dying seconds, when Solly [Solomon Linda] took a deep breath, opened his mouth and improvised the melody that the world now associates with these words: 'In the jungle, the mighty jungle, the lion sleeps tonight.' Linda's improvised melody was wordless; no English words occur in the recording. Issued by Gallo as a 78 recording in 1939 and marketed to black audiences, Mbube became a hit and Linda a star throughout South Africa. By 1948, the song had sold about 100,000 copies in Africa and among black South African immigrants in Great Britain and had lent its name to a style of African a cappella music that evolved into isicathamiya (also called mbube), popularized by Ladysmith Black Mambazo.snip http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1v=_LBmUwi6mEofeature= endscreenhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?**NR=1v=_LBmUwi6mEofeature=**endscreen http://www.youtube.**com/watch?NR=1v=_LBmUwi6mEo** feature=endscreenhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1v=_LBmUwi6mEofeature=endscreen As everyone knows this led to scream music, ( Barbra Streisand and others), which has become the current female standard; and all the infinitely variegated forms of lunatic music (Grateful Dead, Punk, etc.) as a primary cause of the current decline of Western Civilization. Ou only hope is to go back to real music as best demonstrated by Lawrence Welk. Gerrytic .. From: Rich Thomas richthomas79TD300@**construct**ivity.nethttp://constructivity.net richthomas79TD300
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Most definitely this lunatic music is the root cause of the Decline of Western Civilization. That, and Strong Drink. --R (sent from my miniPad) On Aug 24, 2013, at 5:25 PM, Gerry Archer arche...@embarqmail.com wrote: The broad field of nonsense music from which all modern music is derives actually began in the 1920s with a South African song written by a Zulu: Mbube (Zulu: lion) was written in the 1920s by Solomon Linda, a South African singer of Zulu origin, who worked for the Gallo Record Company as a cleaner and record packer, and who performed with a choir, The Evening Birds, where, according to South African journalist Rian Malan: Mbube wasn't the most remarkable tune, but there was something terribly compelling about the underlying chant, a dense meshing of low male voices above which Solomon yodelled and howled for two exhilarating minutes, occasionally making it up as he went along. The third take was the great one, but it achieved immortality only in its dying seconds, when Solly [Solomon Linda] took a deep breath, opened his mouth and improvised the melody that the world now associates with these words: 'In the jungle, the mighty jungle, the lion sleeps tonight.' Linda's improvised melody was wordless; no English words occur in the recording. Issued by Gallo as a 78 recording in 1939 and marketed to black audiences, Mbube became a hit and Linda a star throughout South Africa. By 1948, the song had sold about 100,000 copies in Africa and among black South African immigrants in Great Britain and had lent its name to a style of African a cappella music that evolved into isicathamiya (also called mbube), popularized by Ladysmith Black Mambazo.snip http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1v=_LBmUwi6mEofeature=endscreen As everyone knows this led to scream music, ( Barbra Streisand and others), which has become the current female standard; and all the infinitely variegated forms of lunatic music (Grateful Dead, Punk, etc.) as a primary cause of the current decline of Western Civilization. Ou only hope is to go back to real music as best demonstrated by Lawrence Welk. Gerrytic .. From: Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net I am out working on my addition, listening to KPFT Houston streaming over the tubernets, and they just played a set of songs about Louie Louie. How many of y'all remember Louie Louie by the Kingsmen? It caused all kinds of stir, clearly the commienists were behind it, subverting the morals of Merkin youth with that filthy rocknroll trash. We knew it had dirty lyrics but no one could figure out what they were. We would spontaneously break into playing that in band class in jr high, the band teacher Mr. Broome who was about 5ft tall and wide, and who hated that song with a passion (which of course became the lore of Mr. Broome that all kids knew, passed along, remembered, etc.) would go into an altered state when he heard us playing it before class started. It was the most awesome thing about band class. I think it was the only song we all learned to play without music and a band leader, go figure. After the first two years there he retired, another guy took over, a young guy, we tried that once and he had no issue with it so it just faded away but then the Laugh In song became popular and he had issues with that, so of course what did we do! --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.2242 / Virus Database: 3211/6103 - Release Date: 08/23/13 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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You're fortunate. The closest theatre that features closed circuit performances by the Met is 60 miles of two lane road distant. We have managed to see a half dozen operas so far, however. Classical music needs composers who will go back and pick up where Beethoven and others left off. Wouldn't it be great to have new music written in the style of Tchaikovsky? Gerry From: Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com i became an opera fan a year ago. i spent my whole life thinking opera was some kind of fancy thing for pretentious rich people. then i ended up seeing one and was oh, wow, this is great so now i subscribe to my local opera company and go see the met stuff at the theater, but i don't see much future for opera as i'm generally the youngest person there who went voluntarily On Sat, Aug 24, 2013 at 8:00 PM, Gerry Archer arche...@embarqmail.comwrote: I liked symphonies as a young person, especially those with a principal performer; Jascha Heifetz, for example. Later preferred opera, and currently prefer vocal performers such as Dimitri Hvorostovsky, Elina Garanca, etc: http://www.youtube.com/watch?**v=OmPI2WNuUzEhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OmPI2WNuUzE http://www.youtube.com/watch?**v=aakfkGBh-fMhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aakfkGBh-fM Gerry Yep; fantastic! A bit late, but very welcomed. Thanks. Wilton - Original Message - From: Gerry Archer arche...@embarqmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Saturday, August 24, 2013 7:20 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Louie Louie http://www.youtube.com/watch?**v=_-mvutiDRvQhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_-mvutiDRvQ Is there an icon on that page we can click right now to hear some symphony? 'Probably good for all of us. ;)) Wilton - Original Message - From: Gerry Archer arche...@embarqmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Saturday, August 24, 2013 6:42 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Louie Louie Beethovens 9th is undoubtedly one of the great compositons of classical music: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/**Symphony_No._9_%28Beethoven%29https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Symphony_No._9_%28Beethoven%29 but you can't really compare classical music to modern music. Modern music can appeal to a much wider range of people than classical music; the lovers of which undoubtedly have a classical gene left over from their ancestors. (I fell in love with classical music at age 6). Classical music has many bizarre forms; partitas for solo violin for example; and the only way to separate the silliness from real music is to state that any work which does not have melody is nonsense; at least to the casual classic music listener. IMO the decline of classical music began with the Rite of Spring, and it's gotten continually worse (Hindemith, et al). Gerry From: OK Don okd...@gmail.com O M G !!! Both examples are black noise. Real music started dying after Beethoven's 9th On Sat, Aug 24, 2013 at 4:25 PM, Gerry Archer arche...@embarqmail.com**wrote: The broad field of nonsense music from which all modern music is derives actually began in the 1920s with a South African song written by a Zulu: Mbube (Zulu: lion) was written in the 1920s by Solomon Linda, a South African singer of Zulu origin, who worked for the Gallo Record Company as a cleaner and record packer, and who performed with a choir, The Evening Birds, where, according to South African journalist Rian Malan: Mbube wasn't the most remarkable tune, but there was something terribly compelling about the underlying chant, a dense meshing of low male voices above which Solomon yodelled and howled for two exhilarating minutes, occasionally making it up as he went along. The third take was the great one, but it achieved immortality only in its dying seconds, when Solly [Solomon Linda] took a deep breath, opened his mouth and improvised the melody that the world now associates with these words: 'In the jungle, the mighty jungle, the lion sleeps tonight.' Linda's improvised melody was wordless; no English words occur in the recording. Issued by Gallo as a 78 recording in 1939 and marketed to black audiences, Mbube became a hit and Linda a star throughout South Africa. By 1948, the song had sold about 100,000 copies in Africa and among black South African immigrants in Great Britain and had lent its name to a style of African a cappella music that evolved into isicathamiya (also called mbube), popularized by Ladysmith Black Mambazo.snip http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1v=_LBmUwi6mEofeature= endscreenhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?**NR=1v=_LBmUwi6mEofeature=**endscreen http://www.youtube.**com/watch?NR=1v=_LBmUwi6mEo** feature=endscreenhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1v=_LBmUwi6mEofeature=endscreen As everyone knows this led to scream music, ( Barbra Streisand and others), which has become the current female standard; and all the infinitely variegated forms of lunatic music (Grateful Dead, Punk
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No, no. Strong Drink will likely be the saviour of Western Civilization. Strong Drink lets us cut through the fog of all sorts of lunacy; musical, political, social, etc.; that and the profound contemplation achieved while fishing. Gerry Most definitely this lunatic music is the root cause of the Decline of Western Civilization. That, and Strong Drink. --R (sent from my miniPad) On Aug 24, 2013, at 5:25 PM, Gerry Archer arche...@embarqmail.com wrote: The broad field of nonsense music from which all modern music is derives actually began in the 1920s with a South African song written by a Zulu: Mbube (Zulu: lion) was written in the 1920s by Solomon Linda, a South African singer of Zulu origin, who worked for the Gallo Record Company as a cleaner and record packer, and who performed with a choir, The Evening Birds, where, according to South African journalist Rian Malan: Mbube wasn't the most remarkable tune, but there was something terribly compelling about the underlying chant, a dense meshing of low male voices above which Solomon yodelled and howled for two exhilarating minutes, occasionally making it up as he went along. The third take was the great one, but it achieved immortality only in its dying seconds, when Solly [Solomon Linda] took a deep breath, opened his mouth and improvised the melody that the world now associates with these words: 'In the jungle, the mighty jungle, the lion sleeps tonight.' Linda's improvised melody was wordless; no English words occur in the recording. Issued by Gallo as a 78 recording in 1939 and marketed to black audiences, Mbube became a hit and Linda a star throughout South Africa. By 1948, the song had sold about 100,000 copies in Africa and among black South African immigrants in Great Britain and had lent its name to a style of African a cappella music that evolved into isicathamiya (also called mbube), popularized by Ladysmith Black Mambazo.snip http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1v=_LBmUwi6mEofeature=endscreen As everyone knows this led to scream music, ( Barbra Streisand and others), which has become the current female standard; and all the infinitely variegated forms of lunatic music (Grateful Dead, Punk, etc.) as a primary cause of the current decline of Western Civilization. Ou only hope is to go back to real music as best demonstrated by Lawrence Welk. Gerrytic .. From: Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net I am out working on my addition, listening to KPFT Houston streaming over the tubernets, and they just played a set of songs about Louie Louie. How many of y'all remember Louie Louie by the Kingsmen? It caused all kinds of stir, clearly the commienists were behind it, subverting the morals of Merkin youth with that filthy rocknroll trash. We knew it had dirty lyrics but no one could figure out what they were. We would spontaneously break into playing that in band class in jr high, the band teacher Mr. Broome who was about 5ft tall and wide, and who hated that song with a passion (which of course became the lore of Mr. Broome that all kids knew, passed along, remembered, etc.) would go into an altered state when he heard us playing it before class started. It was the most awesome thing about band class. I think it was the only song we all learned to play without music and a band leader, go figure. After the first two years there he retired, another guy took over, a young guy, we tried that once and he had no issue with it so it just faded away but then the Laugh In song became popular and he had issues with that, so of course what did we do! --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.2242 / Virus Database: 3211/6103 - Release Date: 08/23/13 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.2242 / Virus Database: 3211/6105 - Release Date: 08/24/13 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Yep, they're mighty fine, too. Wilton - Original Message - From: Gerry Archer arche...@embarqmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Saturday, August 24, 2013 8:00 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Louie Louie I liked symphonies as a young person, especially those with a principal performer; Jascha Heifetz, for example. Later preferred opera, and currently prefer vocal performers such as Dimitri Hvorostovsky, Elina Garanca, etc: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OmPI2WNuUzE http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aakfkGBh-fM Gerry Yep; fantastic! A bit late, but very welcomed. Thanks. Wilton - Original Message - From: Gerry Archer arche...@embarqmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Saturday, August 24, 2013 7:20 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Louie Louie http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_-mvutiDRvQ Is there an icon on that page we can click right now to hear some symphony? 'Probably good for all of us. ;)) Wilton - Original Message - From: Gerry Archer arche...@embarqmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Saturday, August 24, 2013 6:42 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Louie Louie Beethovens 9th is undoubtedly one of the great compositons of classical music: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Symphony_No._9_%28Beethoven%29 but you can't really compare classical music to modern music. Modern music can appeal to a much wider range of people than classical music; the lovers of which undoubtedly have a classical gene left over from their ancestors. (I fell in love with classical music at age 6). Classical music has many bizarre forms; partitas for solo violin for example; and the only way to separate the silliness from real music is to state that any work which does not have melody is nonsense; at least to the casual classic music listener. IMO the decline of classical music began with the Rite of Spring, and it's gotten continually worse (Hindemith, et al). Gerry From: OK Don okd...@gmail.com O M G !!! Both examples are black noise. Real music started dying after Beethoven's 9th On Sat, Aug 24, 2013 at 4:25 PM, Gerry Archer arche...@embarqmail.comwrote: The broad field of nonsense music from which all modern music is derives actually began in the 1920s with a South African song written by a Zulu: Mbube (Zulu: lion) was written in the 1920s by Solomon Linda, a South African singer of Zulu origin, who worked for the Gallo Record Company as a cleaner and record packer, and who performed with a choir, The Evening Birds, where, according to South African journalist Rian Malan: Mbube wasn't the most remarkable tune, but there was something terribly compelling about the underlying chant, a dense meshing of low male voices above which Solomon yodelled and howled for two exhilarating minutes, occasionally making it up as he went along. The third take was the great one, but it achieved immortality only in its dying seconds, when Solly [Solomon Linda] took a deep breath, opened his mouth and improvised the melody that the world now associates with these words: 'In the jungle, the mighty jungle, the lion sleeps tonight.' Linda's improvised melody was wordless; no English words occur in the recording. Issued by Gallo as a 78 recording in 1939 and marketed to black audiences, Mbube became a hit and Linda a star throughout South Africa. By 1948, the song had sold about 100,000 copies in Africa and among black South African immigrants in Great Britain and had lent its name to a style of African a cappella music that evolved into isicathamiya (also called mbube), popularized by Ladysmith Black Mambazo.snip http://www.youtube.com/watch?**NR=1v=_LBmUwi6mEofeature=**endscreenhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1v=_LBmUwi6mEofeature=endscreen As everyone knows this led to scream music, ( Barbra Streisand and others), which has become the current female standard; and all the infinitely variegated forms of lunatic music (Grateful Dead, Punk, etc.) as a primary cause of the current decline of Western Civilization. Ou only hope is to go back to real music as best demonstrated by Lawrence Welk. Gerrytic ..** From: Rich Thomas richthomas79TD300@**constructivity.netrichthomas79td...@constructivity.net I am out working on my addition, listening to KPFT Houston streaming over the tubernets, and they just played a set of songs about Louie Louie. How many of y'all remember Louie Louie by the Kingsmen? It caused all kinds of stir, clearly the commienists were behind it, subverting the morals of Merkin youth with that filthy rocknroll trash. We knew it had dirty lyrics but no one could figure out what they were. We would spontaneously break into playing that in band class in jr high, the band teacher Mr. Broome who was about 5ft tall and wide, and who hated that song with a passion (which of course became the lore of Mr
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I sang in the Met Opera boys' chorus from 7 until my voice changed (11, IIRC). I also had a couple solo roles, one of which included a curtain call as Gherardino in Puccini's one act opera Gianni Schicchi (usually paired with Salome in a double bill). I lost interest in opera until recently. Last show attended was a the Washington Opera performance of Manon Lescaut. On Sat, Aug 24, 2013 at 8:30 PM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote: Yep, they're mighty fine, too. Wilton - Original Message - From: Gerry Archer arche...@embarqmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Saturday, August 24, 2013 8:00 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Louie Louie I liked symphonies as a young person, especially those with a principal performer; Jascha Heifetz, for example. Later preferred opera, and currently prefer vocal performers such as Dimitri Hvorostovsky, Elina Garanca, etc: http://www.youtube.com/watch?**v=OmPI2WNuUzEhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OmPI2WNuUzE http://www.youtube.com/watch?**v=aakfkGBh-fMhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aakfkGBh-fM Gerry Yep; fantastic! A bit late, but very welcomed. Thanks. Wilton - Original Message - From: Gerry Archer arche...@embarqmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Saturday, August 24, 2013 7:20 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Louie Louie http://www.youtube.com/watch?**v=_-mvutiDRvQhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_-mvutiDRvQ Is there an icon on that page we can click right now to hear some symphony? 'Probably good for all of us. ;)) Wilton - Original Message - From: Gerry Archer arche...@embarqmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Saturday, August 24, 2013 6:42 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Louie Louie Beethovens 9th is undoubtedly one of the great compositons of classical music: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/**Symphony_No._9_%28Beethoven%29https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Symphony_No._9_%28Beethoven%29 but you can't really compare classical music to modern music. Modern music can appeal to a much wider range of people than classical music; the lovers of which undoubtedly have a classical gene left over from their ancestors. (I fell in love with classical music at age 6). Classical music has many bizarre forms; partitas for solo violin for example; and the only way to separate the silliness from real music is to state that any work which does not have melody is nonsense; at least to the casual classic music listener. IMO the decline of classical music began with the Rite of Spring, and it's gotten continually worse (Hindemith, et al). Gerry From: OK Don okd...@gmail.com O M G !!! Both examples are black noise. Real music started dying after Beethoven's 9th On Sat, Aug 24, 2013 at 4:25 PM, Gerry Archer arche...@embarqmail.com**wrote: The broad field of nonsense music from which all modern music is derives actually began in the 1920s with a South African song written by a Zulu: Mbube (Zulu: lion) was written in the 1920s by Solomon Linda, a South African singer of Zulu origin, who worked for the Gallo Record Company as a cleaner and record packer, and who performed with a choir, The Evening Birds, where, according to South African journalist Rian Malan: Mbube wasn't the most remarkable tune, but there was something terribly compelling about the underlying chant, a dense meshing of low male voices above which Solomon yodelled and howled for two exhilarating minutes, occasionally making it up as he went along. The third take was the great one, but it achieved immortality only in its dying seconds, when Solly [Solomon Linda] took a deep breath, opened his mouth and improvised the melody that the world now associates with these words: 'In the jungle, the mighty jungle, the lion sleeps tonight.' Linda's improvised melody was wordless; no English words occur in the recording. Issued by Gallo as a 78 recording in 1939 and marketed to black audiences, Mbube became a hit and Linda a star throughout South Africa. By 1948, the song had sold about 100,000 copies in Africa and among black South African immigrants in Great Britain and had lent its name to a style of African a cappella music that evolved into isicathamiya (also called mbube), popularized by Ladysmith Black Mambazo.snip http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1v=_LBmUwi6mEofeature= endscreenhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?**NR=1v=_LBmUwi6mEofeature=**endscreen http://www.youtube.**com/watch?NR=1v=_LBmUwi6mEo** feature=endscreenhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1v=_LBmUwi6mEofeature=endscreen As everyone knows this led to scream music, ( Barbra Streisand and others), which has become the current female standard; and all the infinitely variegated forms of lunatic music (Grateful Dead, Punk, etc.) as a primary cause of the current decline of Western Civilization. Ou only hope is to go back to real music
Re: [MBZ] OT Louie Louie
'Nother ATTABOY. Wilton - Original Message - From: Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Saturday, August 24, 2013 8:56 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Louie Louie I sang in the Met Opera boys' chorus from 7 until my voice changed (11, IIRC). I also had a couple solo roles, one of which included a curtain call as Gherardino in Puccini's one act opera Gianni Schicchi (usually paired with Salome in a double bill). I lost interest in opera until recently. Last show attended was a the Washington Opera performance of Manon Lescaut. On Sat, Aug 24, 2013 at 8:30 PM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote: Yep, they're mighty fine, too. Wilton - Original Message - From: Gerry Archer arche...@embarqmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Saturday, August 24, 2013 8:00 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Louie Louie I liked symphonies as a young person, especially those with a principal performer; Jascha Heifetz, for example. Later preferred opera, and currently prefer vocal performers such as Dimitri Hvorostovsky, Elina Garanca, etc: http://www.youtube.com/watch?**v=OmPI2WNuUzEhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OmPI2WNuUzE http://www.youtube.com/watch?**v=aakfkGBh-fMhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aakfkGBh-fM Gerry Yep; fantastic! A bit late, but very welcomed. Thanks. Wilton - Original Message - From: Gerry Archer arche...@embarqmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Saturday, August 24, 2013 7:20 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Louie Louie http://www.youtube.com/watch?**v=_-mvutiDRvQhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_-mvutiDRvQ Is there an icon on that page we can click right now to hear some symphony? 'Probably good for all of us. ;)) Wilton - Original Message - From: Gerry Archer arche...@embarqmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Saturday, August 24, 2013 6:42 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Louie Louie Beethovens 9th is undoubtedly one of the great compositons of classical music: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/**Symphony_No._9_%28Beethoven%29https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Symphony_No._9_%28Beethoven%29 but you can't really compare classical music to modern music. Modern music can appeal to a much wider range of people than classical music; the lovers of which undoubtedly have a classical gene left over from their ancestors. (I fell in love with classical music at age 6). Classical music has many bizarre forms; partitas for solo violin for example; and the only way to separate the silliness from real music is to state that any work which does not have melody is nonsense; at least to the casual classic music listener. IMO the decline of classical music began with the Rite of Spring, and it's gotten continually worse (Hindemith, et al). Gerry From: OK Don okd...@gmail.com O M G !!! Both examples are black noise. Real music started dying after Beethoven's 9th On Sat, Aug 24, 2013 at 4:25 PM, Gerry Archer arche...@embarqmail.com**wrote: The broad field of nonsense music from which all modern music is derives actually began in the 1920s with a South African song written by a Zulu: Mbube (Zulu: lion) was written in the 1920s by Solomon Linda, a South African singer of Zulu origin, who worked for the Gallo Record Company as a cleaner and record packer, and who performed with a choir, The Evening Birds, where, according to South African journalist Rian Malan: Mbube wasn't the most remarkable tune, but there was something terribly compelling about the underlying chant, a dense meshing of low male voices above which Solomon yodelled and howled for two exhilarating minutes, occasionally making it up as he went along. The third take was the great one, but it achieved immortality only in its dying seconds, when Solly [Solomon Linda] took a deep breath, opened his mouth and improvised the melody that the world now associates with these words: 'In the jungle, the mighty jungle, the lion sleeps tonight.' Linda's improvised melody was wordless; no English words occur in the recording. Issued by Gallo as a 78 recording in 1939 and marketed to black audiences, Mbube became a hit and Linda a star throughout South Africa. By 1948, the song had sold about 100,000 copies in Africa and among black South African immigrants in Great Britain and had lent its name to a style of African a cappella music that evolved into isicathamiya (also called mbube), popularized by Ladysmith Black Mambazo.snip http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1v=_LBmUwi6mEofeature= endscreenhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?**NR=1v=_LBmUwi6mEofeature=**endscreen http://www.youtube.**com/watch?NR=1v=_LBmUwi6mEo** feature=endscreenhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1v=_LBmUwi6mEofeature=endscreen As everyone knows this led to scream music, ( Barbra Streisand and others), which has become the current female standard; and all the infinitely variegated forms
