Re: [MBZ] OT THis is crazy SanDisk 200GB Ultra microSDXC UHS-I Memory Card with Adapter $22.49
To my mind the real problem is far to much computer control of things simple switches and mechanical "computers" can do far more cheaply, reliably, and repairably. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT THis is crazy SanDisk 200GB Ultra microSDXC UHS-I Memory Card with Adapter $22.49
That's true, but as you say it's an annoyance that I'd rather avoid. I canceled my Prime account some time ago and don't do business with Amazon anymore on principle, but that's probably not a topic for this list. Allan Floyd Thursby via Mercedes writes: > well if it is bad then just send it back to Amazon, they will credit it > no questions. I mean it is a bit of PITA but you won't be out anything. > > --FT > > On 4/30/21 1:36 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes wrote: >> I haven't kept up on the prices of this stuff to know if this is in line >> with the market but any time you see a crazy good deal on flash >> card/thumb drives be wary, this stuff is a prime target for >> counterfeiters. They fake the packaging so it looks like a brand name, >> and program the card to tell the computer it's a 200GB card, so when you >> pop it in it all looks good, but it really has only 20GB or maybe even >> just 2GB of actual storage. >> >> For this kind of thing I would only buy from an established major >> retailer. Their supply chains are probably legit. On ebay or amazon, or >> at a local convenience store or gas station, you have no idea. >> >> Allan >> >> >> Floyd Thursby via Mercedes writes: >> >>> I remember when GB hard drives were like $1/GB, here you can buy a flash >>> card the size of a thumbnail with 200GB for $0.11/GB, Couple weeks ago I >>> got 3x32GB for $16 to go in some dashcams I got on sale, a cheap vidcam, >>> and this cheap $40 contract phone I just use for vids. I don't know why >>> cars can't get chips but you can buy this stuff for next to nothing. >>> >>> https://www.amazon.com/Sandisk-Ultra-200GB-Micro-Adapter/dp/B073JY5T7T >>> >>> -- >>> --FT ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT THis is crazy SanDisk 200GB Ultra microSDXC UHS-I Memory Card with Adapter $22.49
> So.. the only real shortage that we have is "Logical Thought" that would > permit "Planning ahead".. Current business practice, and governmental interference, actively punishes planning ahead. The Agile flow, which is intended to avoid investing too much up-front effort in _execution_ of possibly-unnecessary work, is actually being applied to avoid _all_ planning and forethought. Stupid, stupid, stupid. I experienced this, personally, via a pointy-haired boss who was publicly humiliating me in a meeting for doing a rough breakdown of anticipated work. We're talking about less than a minute invested in a breakdown of anticipated tasks. I almost quit on the spot. What is the point of having experienced workers, who know how to avoid repeating the mistakes of the past? I no longer work there, and wish them corporate death at their (in)convenience. (Rule 1 when working for assholes: don't quit until you have the next job lined up.) > As for a "one chip" computer for cars... Why not? a computer is > certainly capable of receiving and processing data from multiple sources. The multiple sources _are_ the problem. Embedded I/O, which is the more costly part now when compared to CPU cores and (modest) memory. That and cost-shaving, where you don't use an overly-capable part if you can use a custom one that is pennies less per unit. There _are_ benefits to reliability if you're not deploying overly-capable hardware. So far as I know, the only real mistake made was in not keeping inventory. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT THis is crazy SanDisk 200GB Ultra microSDXC UHS-I Memory Card with Adapter $22.49
well if it is bad then just send it back to Amazon, they will credit it no questions. I mean it is a bit of PITA but you won't be out anything. --FT On 4/30/21 1:36 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes wrote: I haven't kept up on the prices of this stuff to know if this is in line with the market but any time you see a crazy good deal on flash card/thumb drives be wary, this stuff is a prime target for counterfeiters. They fake the packaging so it looks like a brand name, and program the card to tell the computer it's a 200GB card, so when you pop it in it all looks good, but it really has only 20GB or maybe even just 2GB of actual storage. For this kind of thing I would only buy from an established major retailer. Their supply chains are probably legit. On ebay or amazon, or at a local convenience store or gas station, you have no idea. Allan Floyd Thursby via Mercedes writes: I remember when GB hard drives were like $1/GB, here you can buy a flash card the size of a thumbnail with 200GB for $0.11/GB, Couple weeks ago I got 3x32GB for $16 to go in some dashcams I got on sale, a cheap vidcam, and this cheap $40 contract phone I just use for vids. I don't know why cars can't get chips but you can buy this stuff for next to nothing. https://www.amazon.com/Sandisk-Ultra-200GB-Micro-Adapter/dp/B073JY5T7T -- --FT ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- --FT ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT THis is crazy SanDisk 200GB Ultra microSDXC UHS-I Memory Card with Adapter $22.49
So.. the only real shortage that we have is "Logical Thought" that would permit "Planning ahead".. A few more people die... so what, we have to many ... seems to be the current moral. As for a "one chip" computer for cars... Why not? a computer is certainly capable of receiving and processing data from multiple sources. Why not do to the mess of car computers exactly what Windows did to DOS? On Fri, Apr 30, 2021 at 12:08 PM Curt Raymond via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > This. > This is why hospitals have had such an issue, they have no stockpiles. > That one especially strikes me as stupid. I was amazed last winter when the > hospitals again ran short of PPE, you'd think they'd have learned last > spring and would have stockpiled some stuff when it was available during > the late summer. But no, the MBAs of course thought there would never be a > disruption again... > -Curt > > On Friday, April 30, 2021, 3:01:50 PM EDT, Jim Cathey via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > Seems to me, this would be an opportune time for an enterprising > electrical > > engineer to design a "Universal Car Computer" that works on any car > system > > and uses plug in memory chips, instead of only "model specific hardware". > > Not a chance. The CPU/memory is the least part of it. These things are > full > of custom I/O and etc. now. There are hundreds of CPUs in the current > cars, > mostly fairly small ones. How many do you have to have a shortfall on to > prevent a sale? (Hint: one.) > > The real problem is just-in-time production, and governmental inventory > taxes. > Even if the silicon is very cheap (in bulk), they don't stockpile this > stuff anymore. > Which means, it only takes ONE problem to bring the whole complex mess > crashing down. > > -- Jim > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT THis is crazy SanDisk 200GB Ultra microSDXC UHS-I Memory Card with Adapter $22.49
This. This is why hospitals have had such an issue, they have no stockpiles. That one especially strikes me as stupid. I was amazed last winter when the hospitals again ran short of PPE, you'd think they'd have learned last spring and would have stockpiled some stuff when it was available during the late summer. But no, the MBAs of course thought there would never be a disruption again... -Curt On Friday, April 30, 2021, 3:01:50 PM EDT, Jim Cathey via Mercedes wrote: > Seems to me, this would be an opportune time for an enterprising electrical > engineer to design a "Universal Car Computer" that works on any car system > and uses plug in memory chips, instead of only "model specific hardware". Not a chance. The CPU/memory is the least part of it. These things are full of custom I/O and etc. now. There are hundreds of CPUs in the current cars, mostly fairly small ones. How many do you have to have a shortfall on to prevent a sale? (Hint: one.) The real problem is just-in-time production, and governmental inventory taxes. Even if the silicon is very cheap (in bulk), they don't stockpile this stuff anymore. Which means, it only takes ONE problem to bring the whole complex mess crashing down. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT THis is crazy SanDisk 200GB Ultra microSDXC UHS-I Memory Card with Adapter $22.49
> Seems to me, this would be an opportune time for an enterprising electrical > engineer to design a "Universal Car Computer" that works on any car system > and uses plug in memory chips, instead of only "model specific hardware". Not a chance. The CPU/memory is the least part of it. These things are full of custom I/O and etc. now. There are hundreds of CPUs in the current cars, mostly fairly small ones. How many do you have to have a shortfall on to prevent a sale? (Hint: one.) The real problem is just-in-time production, and governmental inventory taxes. Even if the silicon is very cheap (in bulk), they don't stockpile this stuff anymore. Which means, it only takes ONE problem to bring the whole complex mess crashing down. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT THis is crazy SanDisk 200GB Ultra microSDXC UHS-I Memory Card with Adapter $22.49
"Adversity makes Opportunity" Seems to me, this would be an opportune time for an enterprising electrical engineer to design a "Universal Car Computer" that works on any car system and uses plug in memory chips, instead of only "model specific hardware". What say you of such intellect? On Fri, Apr 30, 2021 at 8:43 AM Jim Cathey via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > I don't know why cars can't get chips but you can buy this stuff for > next to nothing. > > The carmakers, fearing slowdowns in sales, did not place orders for the > silicon they > might need. The silicon vendors were able to fill their fabs to capacity > with orders for > consumer silicon, such as memory cards, which _did_ experience an uptick > in sales. > When the automakers tried to place late orders, the vendors could only say > 'sorry', > and put the new orders at the end of the queue. (Six months out?) > > And you don't just turn on a new fab overnight. > > -- Jim > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT THis is crazy SanDisk 200GB Ultra microSDXC UHS-I Memory Card with Adapter $22.49
I haven't kept up on the prices of this stuff to know if this is in line with the market but any time you see a crazy good deal on flash card/thumb drives be wary, this stuff is a prime target for counterfeiters. They fake the packaging so it looks like a brand name, and program the card to tell the computer it's a 200GB card, so when you pop it in it all looks good, but it really has only 20GB or maybe even just 2GB of actual storage. For this kind of thing I would only buy from an established major retailer. Their supply chains are probably legit. On ebay or amazon, or at a local convenience store or gas station, you have no idea. Allan Floyd Thursby via Mercedes writes: > I remember when GB hard drives were like $1/GB, here you can buy a flash > card the size of a thumbnail with 200GB for $0.11/GB, Couple weeks ago I > got 3x32GB for $16 to go in some dashcams I got on sale, a cheap vidcam, > and this cheap $40 contract phone I just use for vids. I don't know why > cars can't get chips but you can buy this stuff for next to nothing. > > https://www.amazon.com/Sandisk-Ultra-200GB-Micro-Adapter/dp/B073JY5T7T > > -- > --FT ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT THis is crazy SanDisk 200GB Ultra microSDXC UHS-I Memory Card with Adapter $22.49
> I don't know why cars can't get chips but you can buy this stuff for next to > nothing. The carmakers, fearing slowdowns in sales, did not place orders for the silicon they might need. The silicon vendors were able to fill their fabs to capacity with orders for consumer silicon, such as memory cards, which _did_ experience an uptick in sales. When the automakers tried to place late orders, the vendors could only say 'sorry', and put the new orders at the end of the queue. (Six months out?) And you don't just turn on a new fab overnight. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
