Re: [MBZ] OT mouse capital punishment

2021-12-06 Thread dan penoff.com via Mercedes
Also makes them a PITA to clean.

-D

> On Dec 6, 2021, at 9:48 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
>  I hate that fridges seem to all have the condenser underneath these days. 
> Logically it's a really stupid location and in most cases results in needing 
> a fan.
> I *think* our freezer uses the top to radiate heat, at least the top of it 
> gets really warm...
> -Curt
> 
>On Saturday, December 4, 2021, 10:23:08 PM EST, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
>  wrote:  
> 
> Maybe but it's a short tube. The dryer is against an outside wall so it vents 
> straight out the back and through the wall.
> 
> Incidentally the noise from the fridge was getting worse, so I took the back 
> panel off and it was pretty clearly the condensor fan that was making the 
> noise. I removed the assembly holding the fan (one screw secures it). The 
> thing is definitely built down to a price but at the same time it's very easy 
> to get it out and replace it if it comes to that. I was able to get at the 
> motor bearings and put a few drops of my favorite Lubriplate oil on them, 
> then cleaned all the dust and grime off the fan blades. It's running silently 
> for now, we'll see how long it lasts.
> 
> Allan
> 
>> On Sat, Dec 4, 2021, at 7:31 PM, OK Don via Mercedes wrote:
>> I would suspect that your dryer vent tube might be perforated.
>> 
>> On Sat, Dec 4, 2021 at 5:52 PM Allan Streib via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> May have figured out where the little f---ers are getting in. The dryer
>>> vent is missing one of the flaps that are supposed to close when the dryer
>>> isn't running. It's only a few inches above ground level. And I have caught
>>> several of them in traps set the laundry room.
>>> 
>>> I picked up a new vent at Lowes, will install it tomorrow.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Thu, Dec 2, 2021, at 1:50 PM, Curt Raymond wrote:
 
 Our house up north has terrible mouse issues, it's got a million little
>>> holes I need to fix, replacing the enclosed porch floor being job 1 next
>>> year.
 
 For this year I put a package of "Grandpa Gus" anti-mouse stuff in
>>> there. Each pouch is supposed to protect 50 square feet. The house got 9
>>> pouches and I put one in the garage on the Farmall Super M. Dang mice ate
>>> the seat cover this year. Didn't bother it for 20 years and then this year
>>> they just gotta eat it...
 
 The grooming machines get pieces of cloth soaked in peppermint oil. It
>>> doesn't 100% repel them but helps a ton. We used to have terrible trouble
>>> with mice, now they're just an annoyance, a few poops here and there but no
>>> nests.
 
 -Curt
 
 On Thursday, December 2, 2021, 12:31:11 PM EST, Allan Streib via
>>> Mercedes  wrote:
 
 
 Living in the country I fight an endless battle against mice invading
>>> the house. I am not sure where they get in but there must be an opening
>>> somewhere that I haven't discovered. I heard one the other night and set
>>> some traps, but caught nothing.
 
 Today the refrigerator was making a noise so I pulled it out to
>>> investigate. Seems like the condensor fan motor might have a bad bearing or
>>> at least a vibration. A couple of years ago we painted the kitchen, and I
>>> had come up one outlet cover short when it came to putting them all back
>>> on. So, I left the cover off the outlet behind the fridge, intending to
>>> pick up a new one, but then forgot about it.
 
 Hanging out of the outlet box was the mouse. Must have climbed the
>>> refrigerator power cord and stuck his head into the box, contacted the hot
>>> terminal, and zappo. Didn't trip the breaker though, as the fridge is still
>>> running. Wasn't sure of the shock risk so pulled the corpse out with
>>> electrician's pliers. I then gave it the usual final rites (threw it into
>>> the woods).
 
 Who knows how long it would have been hanging there if the fridge hadn't
>>> started getting noisy.
 
 Allan
 
 
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>> OK Don
>> 
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>> pause and reflect." Mark Twain
>> 
>> “Basic research is what I’m doing when I don’t know what I am doing.”  
>> Wernher
>> Von Braun
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>> 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg
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Re: [MBZ] OT mouse capital punishment

2021-12-06 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
 I hate that fridges seem to all have the condenser underneath these days. 
Logically it's a really stupid location and in most cases results in needing a 
fan.
I *think* our freezer uses the top to radiate heat, at least the top of it gets 
really warm...
-Curt

On Saturday, December 4, 2021, 10:23:08 PM EST, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
 wrote:  
 
 Maybe but it's a short tube. The dryer is against an outside wall so it vents 
straight out the back and through the wall.

Incidentally the noise from the fridge was getting worse, so I took the back 
panel off and it was pretty clearly the condensor fan that was making the 
noise. I removed the assembly holding the fan (one screw secures it). The thing 
is definitely built down to a price but at the same time it's very easy to get 
it out and replace it if it comes to that. I was able to get at the motor 
bearings and put a few drops of my favorite Lubriplate oil on them, then 
cleaned all the dust and grime off the fan blades. It's running silently for 
now, we'll see how long it lasts.

Allan

On Sat, Dec 4, 2021, at 7:31 PM, OK Don via Mercedes wrote:
> I would suspect that your dryer vent tube might be perforated.
>
> On Sat, Dec 4, 2021 at 5:52 PM Allan Streib via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
>> May have figured out where the little f---ers are getting in. The dryer
>> vent is missing one of the flaps that are supposed to close when the dryer
>> isn't running. It's only a few inches above ground level. And I have caught
>> several of them in traps set the laundry room.
>>
>> I picked up a new vent at Lowes, will install it tomorrow.
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Dec 2, 2021, at 1:50 PM, Curt Raymond wrote:
>> >
>> > Our house up north has terrible mouse issues, it's got a million little
>> holes I need to fix, replacing the enclosed porch floor being job 1 next
>> year.
>> >
>> > For this year I put a package of "Grandpa Gus" anti-mouse stuff in
>> there. Each pouch is supposed to protect 50 square feet. The house got 9
>> pouches and I put one in the garage on the Farmall Super M. Dang mice ate
>> the seat cover this year. Didn't bother it for 20 years and then this year
>> they just gotta eat it...
>> >
>> > The grooming machines get pieces of cloth soaked in peppermint oil. It
>> doesn't 100% repel them but helps a ton. We used to have terrible trouble
>> with mice, now they're just an annoyance, a few poops here and there but no
>> nests.
>> >
>> > -Curt
>> >
>> > On Thursday, December 2, 2021, 12:31:11 PM EST, Allan Streib via
>> Mercedes  wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> > Living in the country I fight an endless battle against mice invading
>> the house. I am not sure where they get in but there must be an opening
>> somewhere that I haven't discovered. I heard one the other night and set
>> some traps, but caught nothing.
>> >
>> > Today the refrigerator was making a noise so I pulled it out to
>> investigate. Seems like the condensor fan motor might have a bad bearing or
>> at least a vibration. A couple of years ago we painted the kitchen, and I
>> had come up one outlet cover short when it came to putting them all back
>> on. So, I left the cover off the outlet behind the fridge, intending to
>> pick up a new one, but then forgot about it.
>> >
>> > Hanging out of the outlet box was the mouse. Must have climbed the
>> refrigerator power cord and stuck his head into the box, contacted the hot
>> terminal, and zappo. Didn't trip the breaker though, as the fridge is still
>> running. Wasn't sure of the shock risk so pulled the corpse out with
>> electrician's pliers. I then gave it the usual final rites (threw it into
>> the woods).
>> >
>> > Who knows how long it would have been hanging there if the fridge hadn't
>> started getting noisy.
>> >
>> > Allan
>> >
>> >
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>
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> OK Don
>
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> pause and reflect." Mark Twain
>
> “Basic research is what I’m doing when I don’t know what I am doing.”  Wernher
> Von Braun
> 2013 F150, 18 mpg
> 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg
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Re: [MBZ] OT mouse capital punishment

2021-12-05 Thread Scott Ritchey via Mercedes
Thanks.

-Original Message-
From: Mercedes On Behalf Of dan penoff.com via Mercedes
Sent: Sunday, December 5, 2021 10:43 AM
To: Mercedes Discussion List 
Cc: dan penoff.com 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT mouse capital punishment

Worked fine for me.

You just take the cover off and the little "cap" that closes off the vent lifts 
off. I've had them on short runs where the dryer was on the exterior wall and 
one that was proabbly six feet long with the dryer on an interior wall. They 
are really great in cold climates because they seal off the duct quite well. No 
leakage of outside air into the house.

-D

From: Mercedes  on behalf of Scott Ritchey via 
Mercedes 
Sent: Sunday, December 5, 2021 10:36 AM
To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' 
Cc: Scott Ritchey 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT mouse capital punishment

How does that work for lint cleaning?  I have a 20 ft of metal duct from the 
dryer to the outside and run a Lint Eater through it  periodically.

-Original Message-
From: Mercedes On Behalf Of dan penoff.com via Mercedes
Sent: Sunday, December 5, 2021 9:27 AM
To: Mercedes Discussion List 
Cc: dan penoff.com 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT mouse capital punishment

For what it’s worth, when I lived north of the Mason-Dixon Line I used a dryer 
vent that was made of plastic and shaped like a 90 degree elbow facing up with 
a cap of sorts that was lifted off by the pressure of the dryer blower.

Like one of these: 
https://www.amazon.com/HEARTLAND-21000-Energy-Saving-Closure/dp/B9W3I4/ref=asc_df_B9W3I4/?tag=hyprod-20=df0=198100801330==g=2680509929569257030t===9030291=pla-318599266990=1

They’re durable, can be painted to match the exterior of the house, and 
securely seal the opening. Very important when you’ve got ambients well below 
zero - one of those little metal flaps just doesn’t do the job.

-D

Sent from my iPad

On Dec 4, 2021, at 8:23 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes  
wrote:

Maybe but it's a short tube. The dryer is against an outside wall so it vents 
straight out the back and through the wall.

Incidentally the noise from the fridge was getting worse, so I took the back 
panel off and it was pretty clearly the condensor fan that was making the 
noise. I removed the assembly holding the fan (one screw secures it). The thing 
is definitely built down to a price but at the same time it's very easy to get 
it out and replace it if it comes to that. I was able to get at the motor 
bearings and put a few drops of my favorite Lubriplate oil on them, then 
cleaned all the dust and grime off the fan blades. It's running silently for 
now, we'll see how long it lasts.

Allan

On Sat, Dec 4, 2021, at 7:31 PM, OK Don via Mercedes wrote:
I would suspect that your dryer vent tube might be perforated.

On Sat, Dec 4, 2021 at 5:52 PM Allan Streib via Mercedes < 
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

May have figured out where the little f---ers are getting in. The dryer vent is 
missing one of the flaps that are supposed to close when the dryer isn't 
running. It's only a few inches above ground level. And I have caught several 
of them in traps set the laundry room.

I picked up a new vent at Lowes, will install it tomorrow.


On Thu, Dec 2, 2021, at 1:50 PM, Curt Raymond wrote:

Our house up north has terrible mouse issues, it's got a million little holes I 
need to fix, replacing the enclosed porch floor being job 1 next year.

For this year I put a package of "Grandpa Gus" anti-mouse stuff in there. Each 
pouch is supposed to protect 50 square feet. The house got 9 pouches and I put 
one in the garage on the Farmall Super M. Dang mice ate the seat cover this 
year. Didn't bother it for 20 years and then this year they just gotta eat it...

The grooming machines get pieces of cloth soaked in peppermint oil. It doesn't 
100% repel them but helps a ton. We used to have terrible trouble with mice, 
now they're just an annoyance, a few poops here and there but no nests.

-Curt

On Thursday, December 2, 2021, 12:31:11 PM EST, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
 wrote:


Living in the country I fight an endless battle against mice invading the 
house. I am not sure where they get in but there must be an opening somewhere 
that I haven't discovered. I heard one the other night and set some traps, but 
caught nothing.

Today the refrigerator was making a noise so I pulled it out to investigate. 
Seems like the condensor fan motor might have a bad bearing or at least a 
vibration. A couple of years ago we painted the kitchen, and I had come up one 
outlet cover short when it came to putting them all back on. So, I left the 
cover off the outlet behind the fridge, intending to pick up a new one, but 
then forgot about it.

Hanging out of the outlet box was the mouse. Must have climbed the refrigerator 
power cord and stuck his head into the box, contacted the hot terminal, and 
zappo. Didn't trip the breaker though, as the fridge is still running. Wasn't 
sure o

Re: [MBZ] OT mouse capital punishment

2021-12-05 Thread Scott Ritchey via Mercedes
Thanks.

-Original Message-
From: Mercedes On Behalf Of dan penoff.com via Mercedes
Sent: Sunday, December 5, 2021 10:43 AM
To: Mercedes Discussion List 
Cc: dan penoff.com 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT mouse capital punishment

Worked fine for me.

You just take the cover off and the little "cap" that closes off the vent lifts 
off. I've had them on short runs where the dryer was on the exterior wall and 
one that was proabbly six feet long with the dryer on an interior wall. They 
are really great in cold climates because they seal off the duct quite well. No 
leakage of outside air into the house.

-D

From: Mercedes  on behalf of Scott Ritchey via 
Mercedes 
Sent: Sunday, December 5, 2021 10:36 AM
To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' 
Cc: Scott Ritchey 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT mouse capital punishment

How does that work for lint cleaning?  I have a 20 ft of metal duct from the 
dryer to the outside and run a Lint Eater through it  periodically.

-Original Message-
From: Mercedes On Behalf Of dan penoff.com via Mercedes
Sent: Sunday, December 5, 2021 9:27 AM
To: Mercedes Discussion List 
Cc: dan penoff.com 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT mouse capital punishment

For what it’s worth, when I lived north of the Mason-Dixon Line I used a dryer 
vent that was made of plastic and shaped like a 90 degree elbow facing up with 
a cap of sorts that was lifted off by the pressure of the dryer blower.

Like one of these: 
https://www.amazon.com/HEARTLAND-21000-Energy-Saving-Closure/dp/B9W3I4/ref=asc_df_B9W3I4/?tag=hyprod-20=df0=198100801330==g=2680509929569257030t===9030291=pla-318599266990=1

They’re durable, can be painted to match the exterior of the house, and 
securely seal the opening. Very important when you’ve got ambients well below 
zero - one of those little metal flaps just doesn’t do the job.

-D

Sent from my iPad

On Dec 4, 2021, at 8:23 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes  
wrote:

Maybe but it's a short tube. The dryer is against an outside wall so it vents 
straight out the back and through the wall.

Incidentally the noise from the fridge was getting worse, so I took the back 
panel off and it was pretty clearly the condensor fan that was making the 
noise. I removed the assembly holding the fan (one screw secures it). The thing 
is definitely built down to a price but at the same time it's very easy to get 
it out and replace it if it comes to that. I was able to get at the motor 
bearings and put a few drops of my favorite Lubriplate oil on them, then 
cleaned all the dust and grime off the fan blades. It's running silently for 
now, we'll see how long it lasts.

Allan

On Sat, Dec 4, 2021, at 7:31 PM, OK Don via Mercedes wrote:
I would suspect that your dryer vent tube might be perforated.

On Sat, Dec 4, 2021 at 5:52 PM Allan Streib via Mercedes < 
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

May have figured out where the little f---ers are getting in. The dryer vent is 
missing one of the flaps that are supposed to close when the dryer isn't 
running. It's only a few inches above ground level. And I have caught several 
of them in traps set the laundry room.

I picked up a new vent at Lowes, will install it tomorrow.


On Thu, Dec 2, 2021, at 1:50 PM, Curt Raymond wrote:

Our house up north has terrible mouse issues, it's got a million little holes I 
need to fix, replacing the enclosed porch floor being job 1 next year.

For this year I put a package of "Grandpa Gus" anti-mouse stuff in there. Each 
pouch is supposed to protect 50 square feet. The house got 9 pouches and I put 
one in the garage on the Farmall Super M. Dang mice ate the seat cover this 
year. Didn't bother it for 20 years and then this year they just gotta eat it...

The grooming machines get pieces of cloth soaked in peppermint oil. It doesn't 
100% repel them but helps a ton. We used to have terrible trouble with mice, 
now they're just an annoyance, a few poops here and there but no nests.

-Curt

On Thursday, December 2, 2021, 12:31:11 PM EST, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
 wrote:


Living in the country I fight an endless battle against mice invading the 
house. I am not sure where they get in but there must be an opening somewhere 
that I haven't discovered. I heard one the other night and set some traps, but 
caught nothing.

Today the refrigerator was making a noise so I pulled it out to investigate. 
Seems like the condensor fan motor might have a bad bearing or at least a 
vibration. A couple of years ago we painted the kitchen, and I had come up one 
outlet cover short when it came to putting them all back on. So, I left the 
cover off the outlet behind the fridge, intending to pick up a new one, but 
then forgot about it.

Hanging out of the outlet box was the mouse. Must have climbed the refrigerator 
power cord and stuck his head into the box, contacted the hot terminal, and 
zappo. Didn't trip the breaker though, as the fridge is still running. Wasn't 
sure o

Re: [MBZ] OT mouse capital punishment

2021-12-05 Thread dan penoff.com via Mercedes
When you live in WI and the ambient is -20F with a wind chill of -40F, you'll 
know if those louvers are closing or not when you go into the laundry room. We 
set the thermostat back to 50F when we went away for Thanksgiving our first 
year in the house, and when we returned the water lines on the washer had 
frozen and split open in an interior (laundry) room.

That's why I went that route. It's also why we've always specified a floor 
drain in the laundry room in every house we've built. That foresight saved us 
from some serious water damage.

-D

From: Mercedes  on behalf of Allan Streib via 
Mercedes 
Sent: Sunday, December 5, 2021 1:18 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List 
Cc: Allan Streib 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT mouse capital punishment

I've seen those, but the one I got has plastic louvers that look a bit like 
venetian blinds. They seem to close up pretty well, of course that may change 
when the lint starts building up. It only protrudes an inch or so from the 
house.

On Sun, Dec 5, 2021, at 9:27 AM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:
> For what it’s worth, when I lived north of the Mason-Dixon Line I used
> a dryer vent that was made of plastic and shaped like a 90 degree elbow
> facing up with a cap of sorts that was lifted off by the pressure of
> the dryer blower.

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Re: [MBZ] OT mouse capital punishment

2021-12-05 Thread Allan Streib via Mercedes
I've seen those, but the one I got has plastic louvers that look a bit like 
venetian blinds. They seem to close up pretty well, of course that may change 
when the lint starts building up. It only protrudes an inch or so from the 
house.

On Sun, Dec 5, 2021, at 9:27 AM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:
> For what it’s worth, when I lived north of the Mason-Dixon Line I used 
> a dryer vent that was made of plastic and shaped like a 90 degree elbow 
> facing up with a cap of sorts that was lifted off by the pressure of 
> the dryer blower.

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Re: [MBZ] OT mouse capital punishment

2021-12-05 Thread dan penoff.com via Mercedes
Worked fine for me.

You just take the cover off and the little "cap" that closes off the vent lifts 
off. I've had them on short runs where the dryer was on the exterior wall and 
one that was proabbly six feet long with the dryer on an interior wall. They 
are really great in cold climates because they seal off the duct quite well. No 
leakage of outside air into the house.

-D

From: Mercedes  on behalf of Scott Ritchey via 
Mercedes 
Sent: Sunday, December 5, 2021 10:36 AM
To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' 
Cc: Scott Ritchey 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT mouse capital punishment

How does that work for lint cleaning?  I have a 20 ft of metal duct from the 
dryer to the outside and run a Lint Eater through it  periodically.

-Original Message-
From: Mercedes On Behalf Of dan penoff.com via Mercedes
Sent: Sunday, December 5, 2021 9:27 AM
To: Mercedes Discussion List 
Cc: dan penoff.com 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT mouse capital punishment

For what it’s worth, when I lived north of the Mason-Dixon Line I used a dryer 
vent that was made of plastic and shaped like a 90 degree elbow facing up with 
a cap of sorts that was lifted off by the pressure of the dryer blower.

Like one of these: 
https://www.amazon.com/HEARTLAND-21000-Energy-Saving-Closure/dp/B9W3I4/ref=asc_df_B9W3I4/?tag=hyprod-20=df0=198100801330==g=2680509929569257030t===9030291=pla-318599266990=1

They’re durable, can be painted to match the exterior of the house, and 
securely seal the opening. Very important when you’ve got ambients well below 
zero - one of those little metal flaps just doesn’t do the job.

-D

Sent from my iPad

On Dec 4, 2021, at 8:23 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes  
wrote:

Maybe but it's a short tube. The dryer is against an outside wall so it vents 
straight out the back and through the wall.

Incidentally the noise from the fridge was getting worse, so I took the back 
panel off and it was pretty clearly the condensor fan that was making the 
noise. I removed the assembly holding the fan (one screw secures it). The thing 
is definitely built down to a price but at the same time it's very easy to get 
it out and replace it if it comes to that. I was able to get at the motor 
bearings and put a few drops of my favorite Lubriplate oil on them, then 
cleaned all the dust and grime off the fan blades. It's running silently for 
now, we'll see how long it lasts.

Allan

On Sat, Dec 4, 2021, at 7:31 PM, OK Don via Mercedes wrote:
I would suspect that your dryer vent tube might be perforated.

On Sat, Dec 4, 2021 at 5:52 PM Allan Streib via Mercedes < 
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

May have figured out where the little f---ers are getting in. The dryer vent is 
missing one of the flaps that are supposed to close when the dryer isn't 
running. It's only a few inches above ground level. And I have caught several 
of them in traps set the laundry room.

I picked up a new vent at Lowes, will install it tomorrow.


On Thu, Dec 2, 2021, at 1:50 PM, Curt Raymond wrote:

Our house up north has terrible mouse issues, it's got a million little holes I 
need to fix, replacing the enclosed porch floor being job 1 next year.

For this year I put a package of "Grandpa Gus" anti-mouse stuff in there. Each 
pouch is supposed to protect 50 square feet. The house got 9 pouches and I put 
one in the garage on the Farmall Super M. Dang mice ate the seat cover this 
year. Didn't bother it for 20 years and then this year they just gotta eat it...

The grooming machines get pieces of cloth soaked in peppermint oil. It doesn't 
100% repel them but helps a ton. We used to have terrible trouble with mice, 
now they're just an annoyance, a few poops here and there but no nests.

-Curt

On Thursday, December 2, 2021, 12:31:11 PM EST, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
 wrote:


Living in the country I fight an endless battle against mice invading the 
house. I am not sure where they get in but there must be an opening somewhere 
that I haven't discovered. I heard one the other night and set some traps, but 
caught nothing.

Today the refrigerator was making a noise so I pulled it out to investigate. 
Seems like the condensor fan motor might have a bad bearing or at least a 
vibration. A couple of years ago we painted the kitchen, and I had come up one 
outlet cover short when it came to putting them all back on. So, I left the 
cover off the outlet behind the fridge, intending to pick up a new one, but 
then forgot about it.

Hanging out of the outlet box was the mouse. Must have climbed the refrigerator 
power cord and stuck his head into the box, contacted the hot terminal, and 
zappo. Didn't trip the breaker though, as the fridge is still running. Wasn't 
sure of the shock risk so pulled the corpse out with electrician's pliers. I 
then gave it the usual final rites (threw it into the woods).

Who knows how long it would have been hanging there if the fridge hadn't 
sta

Re: [MBZ] OT mouse capital punishment

2021-12-05 Thread Scott Ritchey via Mercedes
How does that work for lint cleaning?  I have a 20 ft of metal duct from the 
dryer to the outside and run a Lint Eater through it  periodically.  

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From: Mercedes On Behalf Of dan penoff.com via Mercedes
Sent: Sunday, December 5, 2021 9:27 AM
To: Mercedes Discussion List 
Cc: dan penoff.com 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT mouse capital punishment

For what it’s worth, when I lived north of the Mason-Dixon Line I used a dryer 
vent that was made of plastic and shaped like a 90 degree elbow facing up with 
a cap of sorts that was lifted off by the pressure of the dryer blower.

Like one of these: 
https://www.amazon.com/HEARTLAND-21000-Energy-Saving-Closure/dp/B9W3I4/ref=asc_df_B9W3I4/?tag=hyprod-20=df0=198100801330==g=2680509929569257030t===9030291=pla-318599266990=1

They’re durable, can be painted to match the exterior of the house, and 
securely seal the opening. Very important when you’ve got ambients well below 
zero - one of those little metal flaps just doesn’t do the job.

-D

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On Dec 4, 2021, at 8:23 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes  
wrote:

Maybe but it's a short tube. The dryer is against an outside wall so it vents 
straight out the back and through the wall.

Incidentally the noise from the fridge was getting worse, so I took the back 
panel off and it was pretty clearly the condensor fan that was making the 
noise. I removed the assembly holding the fan (one screw secures it). The thing 
is definitely built down to a price but at the same time it's very easy to get 
it out and replace it if it comes to that. I was able to get at the motor 
bearings and put a few drops of my favorite Lubriplate oil on them, then 
cleaned all the dust and grime off the fan blades. It's running silently for 
now, we'll see how long it lasts.

Allan

On Sat, Dec 4, 2021, at 7:31 PM, OK Don via Mercedes wrote:
I would suspect that your dryer vent tube might be perforated.

On Sat, Dec 4, 2021 at 5:52 PM Allan Streib via Mercedes < 
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

May have figured out where the little f---ers are getting in. The dryer vent is 
missing one of the flaps that are supposed to close when the dryer isn't 
running. It's only a few inches above ground level. And I have caught several 
of them in traps set the laundry room.

I picked up a new vent at Lowes, will install it tomorrow.


On Thu, Dec 2, 2021, at 1:50 PM, Curt Raymond wrote:

Our house up north has terrible mouse issues, it's got a million little holes I 
need to fix, replacing the enclosed porch floor being job 1 next year.

For this year I put a package of "Grandpa Gus" anti-mouse stuff in there. Each 
pouch is supposed to protect 50 square feet. The house got 9 pouches and I put 
one in the garage on the Farmall Super M. Dang mice ate the seat cover this 
year. Didn't bother it for 20 years and then this year they just gotta eat it...

The grooming machines get pieces of cloth soaked in peppermint oil. It doesn't 
100% repel them but helps a ton. We used to have terrible trouble with mice, 
now they're just an annoyance, a few poops here and there but no nests.

-Curt

On Thursday, December 2, 2021, 12:31:11 PM EST, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
 wrote:


Living in the country I fight an endless battle against mice invading the 
house. I am not sure where they get in but there must be an opening somewhere 
that I haven't discovered. I heard one the other night and set some traps, but 
caught nothing.

Today the refrigerator was making a noise so I pulled it out to investigate. 
Seems like the condensor fan motor might have a bad bearing or at least a 
vibration. A couple of years ago we painted the kitchen, and I had come up one 
outlet cover short when it came to putting them all back on. So, I left the 
cover off the outlet behind the fridge, intending to pick up a new one, but 
then forgot about it.

Hanging out of the outlet box was the mouse. Must have climbed the refrigerator 
power cord and stuck his head into the box, contacted the hot terminal, and 
zappo. Didn't trip the breaker though, as the fridge is still running. Wasn't 
sure of the shock risk so pulled the corpse out with electrician's pliers. I 
then gave it the usual final rites (threw it into the woods).

Who knows how long it would have been hanging there if the fridge hadn't 
started getting noisy.

Allan


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Re: [MBZ] OT mouse capital punishment

2021-12-05 Thread dan penoff.com via Mercedes
For what it’s worth, when I lived north of the Mason-Dixon Line I used a dryer 
vent that was made of plastic and shaped like a 90 degree elbow facing up with 
a cap of sorts that was lifted off by the pressure of the dryer blower.

Like one of these: 
https://www.amazon.com/HEARTLAND-21000-Energy-Saving-Closure/dp/B9W3I4/ref=asc_df_B9W3I4/?tag=hyprod-20=df0=198100801330==g=2680509929569257030t===9030291=pla-318599266990=1

They’re durable, can be painted to match the exterior of the house, and 
securely seal the opening. Very important when you’ve got ambients well below 
zero - one of those little metal flaps just doesn’t do the job.

-D

Sent from my iPad

On Dec 4, 2021, at 8:23 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes  
wrote:

Maybe but it's a short tube. The dryer is against an outside wall so it vents 
straight out the back and through the wall.

Incidentally the noise from the fridge was getting worse, so I took the back 
panel off and it was pretty clearly the condensor fan that was making the 
noise. I removed the assembly holding the fan (one screw secures it). The thing 
is definitely built down to a price but at the same time it's very easy to get 
it out and replace it if it comes to that. I was able to get at the motor 
bearings and put a few drops of my favorite Lubriplate oil on them, then 
cleaned all the dust and grime off the fan blades. It's running silently for 
now, we'll see how long it lasts.

Allan

On Sat, Dec 4, 2021, at 7:31 PM, OK Don via Mercedes wrote:
I would suspect that your dryer vent tube might be perforated.

On Sat, Dec 4, 2021 at 5:52 PM Allan Streib via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

May have figured out where the little f---ers are getting in. The dryer
vent is missing one of the flaps that are supposed to close when the dryer
isn't running. It's only a few inches above ground level. And I have caught
several of them in traps set the laundry room.

I picked up a new vent at Lowes, will install it tomorrow.


On Thu, Dec 2, 2021, at 1:50 PM, Curt Raymond wrote:

Our house up north has terrible mouse issues, it's got a million little
holes I need to fix, replacing the enclosed porch floor being job 1 next
year.

For this year I put a package of "Grandpa Gus" anti-mouse stuff in
there. Each pouch is supposed to protect 50 square feet. The house got 9
pouches and I put one in the garage on the Farmall Super M. Dang mice ate
the seat cover this year. Didn't bother it for 20 years and then this year
they just gotta eat it...

The grooming machines get pieces of cloth soaked in peppermint oil. It
doesn't 100% repel them but helps a ton. We used to have terrible trouble
with mice, now they're just an annoyance, a few poops here and there but no
nests.

-Curt

On Thursday, December 2, 2021, 12:31:11 PM EST, Allan Streib via
Mercedes  wrote:


Living in the country I fight an endless battle against mice invading
the house. I am not sure where they get in but there must be an opening
somewhere that I haven't discovered. I heard one the other night and set
some traps, but caught nothing.

Today the refrigerator was making a noise so I pulled it out to
investigate. Seems like the condensor fan motor might have a bad bearing or
at least a vibration. A couple of years ago we painted the kitchen, and I
had come up one outlet cover short when it came to putting them all back
on. So, I left the cover off the outlet behind the fridge, intending to
pick up a new one, but then forgot about it.

Hanging out of the outlet box was the mouse. Must have climbed the
refrigerator power cord and stuck his head into the box, contacted the hot
terminal, and zappo. Didn't trip the breaker though, as the fridge is still
running. Wasn't sure of the shock risk so pulled the corpse out with
electrician's pliers. I then gave it the usual final rites (threw it into
the woods).

Who knows how long it would have been hanging there if the fridge hadn't
started getting noisy.

Allan


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Re: [MBZ] OT mouse capital punishment

2021-12-04 Thread Allan Streib via Mercedes
Maybe but it's a short tube. The dryer is against an outside wall so it vents 
straight out the back and through the wall.

Incidentally the noise from the fridge was getting worse, so I took the back 
panel off and it was pretty clearly the condensor fan that was making the 
noise. I removed the assembly holding the fan (one screw secures it). The thing 
is definitely built down to a price but at the same time it's very easy to get 
it out and replace it if it comes to that. I was able to get at the motor 
bearings and put a few drops of my favorite Lubriplate oil on them, then 
cleaned all the dust and grime off the fan blades. It's running silently for 
now, we'll see how long it lasts.

Allan

On Sat, Dec 4, 2021, at 7:31 PM, OK Don via Mercedes wrote:
> I would suspect that your dryer vent tube might be perforated.
>
> On Sat, Dec 4, 2021 at 5:52 PM Allan Streib via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
>> May have figured out where the little f---ers are getting in. The dryer
>> vent is missing one of the flaps that are supposed to close when the dryer
>> isn't running. It's only a few inches above ground level. And I have caught
>> several of them in traps set the laundry room.
>>
>> I picked up a new vent at Lowes, will install it tomorrow.
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Dec 2, 2021, at 1:50 PM, Curt Raymond wrote:
>> >
>> > Our house up north has terrible mouse issues, it's got a million little
>> holes I need to fix, replacing the enclosed porch floor being job 1 next
>> year.
>> >
>> > For this year I put a package of "Grandpa Gus" anti-mouse stuff in
>> there. Each pouch is supposed to protect 50 square feet. The house got 9
>> pouches and I put one in the garage on the Farmall Super M. Dang mice ate
>> the seat cover this year. Didn't bother it for 20 years and then this year
>> they just gotta eat it...
>> >
>> > The grooming machines get pieces of cloth soaked in peppermint oil. It
>> doesn't 100% repel them but helps a ton. We used to have terrible trouble
>> with mice, now they're just an annoyance, a few poops here and there but no
>> nests.
>> >
>> > -Curt
>> >
>> > On Thursday, December 2, 2021, 12:31:11 PM EST, Allan Streib via
>> Mercedes  wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> > Living in the country I fight an endless battle against mice invading
>> the house. I am not sure where they get in but there must be an opening
>> somewhere that I haven't discovered. I heard one the other night and set
>> some traps, but caught nothing.
>> >
>> > Today the refrigerator was making a noise so I pulled it out to
>> investigate. Seems like the condensor fan motor might have a bad bearing or
>> at least a vibration. A couple of years ago we painted the kitchen, and I
>> had come up one outlet cover short when it came to putting them all back
>> on. So, I left the cover off the outlet behind the fridge, intending to
>> pick up a new one, but then forgot about it.
>> >
>> > Hanging out of the outlet box was the mouse. Must have climbed the
>> refrigerator power cord and stuck his head into the box, contacted the hot
>> terminal, and zappo. Didn't trip the breaker though, as the fridge is still
>> running. Wasn't sure of the shock risk so pulled the corpse out with
>> electrician's pliers. I then gave it the usual final rites (threw it into
>> the woods).
>> >
>> > Who knows how long it would have been hanging there if the fridge hadn't
>> started getting noisy.
>> >
>> > Allan
>> >
>> >
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> pause and reflect." Mark Twain
>
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> Von Braun
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Re: [MBZ] OT mouse capital punishment

2021-12-04 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
I would suspect that your dryer vent tube might be perforated.

On Sat, Dec 4, 2021 at 5:52 PM Allan Streib via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> May have figured out where the little f---ers are getting in. The dryer
> vent is missing one of the flaps that are supposed to close when the dryer
> isn't running. It's only a few inches above ground level. And I have caught
> several of them in traps set the laundry room.
>
> I picked up a new vent at Lowes, will install it tomorrow.
>
>
> On Thu, Dec 2, 2021, at 1:50 PM, Curt Raymond wrote:
> >
> > Our house up north has terrible mouse issues, it's got a million little
> holes I need to fix, replacing the enclosed porch floor being job 1 next
> year.
> >
> > For this year I put a package of "Grandpa Gus" anti-mouse stuff in
> there. Each pouch is supposed to protect 50 square feet. The house got 9
> pouches and I put one in the garage on the Farmall Super M. Dang mice ate
> the seat cover this year. Didn't bother it for 20 years and then this year
> they just gotta eat it...
> >
> > The grooming machines get pieces of cloth soaked in peppermint oil. It
> doesn't 100% repel them but helps a ton. We used to have terrible trouble
> with mice, now they're just an annoyance, a few poops here and there but no
> nests.
> >
> > -Curt
> >
> > On Thursday, December 2, 2021, 12:31:11 PM EST, Allan Streib via
> Mercedes  wrote:
> >
> >
> > Living in the country I fight an endless battle against mice invading
> the house. I am not sure where they get in but there must be an opening
> somewhere that I haven't discovered. I heard one the other night and set
> some traps, but caught nothing.
> >
> > Today the refrigerator was making a noise so I pulled it out to
> investigate. Seems like the condensor fan motor might have a bad bearing or
> at least a vibration. A couple of years ago we painted the kitchen, and I
> had come up one outlet cover short when it came to putting them all back
> on. So, I left the cover off the outlet behind the fridge, intending to
> pick up a new one, but then forgot about it.
> >
> > Hanging out of the outlet box was the mouse. Must have climbed the
> refrigerator power cord and stuck his head into the box, contacted the hot
> terminal, and zappo. Didn't trip the breaker though, as the fridge is still
> running. Wasn't sure of the shock risk so pulled the corpse out with
> electrician's pliers. I then gave it the usual final rites (threw it into
> the woods).
> >
> > Who knows how long it would have been hanging there if the fridge hadn't
> started getting noisy.
> >
> > Allan
> >
> >
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Re: [MBZ] OT mouse capital punishment

2021-12-04 Thread Allan Streib via Mercedes
May have figured out where the little f---ers are getting in. The dryer vent is 
missing one of the flaps that are supposed to close when the dryer isn't 
running. It's only a few inches above ground level. And I have caught several 
of them in traps set the laundry room.

I picked up a new vent at Lowes, will install it tomorrow.


On Thu, Dec 2, 2021, at 1:50 PM, Curt Raymond wrote:
> 
> Our house up north has terrible mouse issues, it's got a million little holes 
> I need to fix, replacing the enclosed porch floor being job 1 next year.
> 
> For this year I put a package of "Grandpa Gus" anti-mouse stuff in there. 
> Each pouch is supposed to protect 50 square feet. The house got 9 pouches and 
> I put one in the garage on the Farmall Super M. Dang mice ate the seat cover 
> this year. Didn't bother it for 20 years and then this year they just gotta 
> eat it...
> 
> The grooming machines get pieces of cloth soaked in peppermint oil. It 
> doesn't 100% repel them but helps a ton. We used to have terrible trouble 
> with mice, now they're just an annoyance, a few poops here and there but no 
> nests.
> 
> -Curt
> 
> On Thursday, December 2, 2021, 12:31:11 PM EST, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> Living in the country I fight an endless battle against mice invading the 
> house. I am not sure where they get in but there must be an opening somewhere 
> that I haven't discovered. I heard one the other night and set some traps, 
> but caught nothing.
> 
> Today the refrigerator was making a noise so I pulled it out to investigate. 
> Seems like the condensor fan motor might have a bad bearing or at least a 
> vibration. A couple of years ago we painted the kitchen, and I had come up 
> one outlet cover short when it came to putting them all back on. So, I left 
> the cover off the outlet behind the fridge, intending to pick up a new one, 
> but then forgot about it.
> 
> Hanging out of the outlet box was the mouse. Must have climbed the 
> refrigerator power cord and stuck his head into the box, contacted the hot 
> terminal, and zappo. Didn't trip the breaker though, as the fridge is still 
> running. Wasn't sure of the shock risk so pulled the corpse out with 
> electrician's pliers. I then gave it the usual final rites (threw it into the 
> woods).
> 
> Who knows how long it would have been hanging there if the fridge hadn't 
> started getting noisy.
> 
> Allan
> 
> 
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Re: [MBZ] OT mouse capital punishment

2021-12-02 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
 Our house up north has terrible mouse issues, it's got a million little holes 
I need to fix, replacing the enclosed porch floor being job 1 next year.
For this year I put a package of "Grandpa Gus" anti-mouse stuff in there. Each 
pouch is supposed to protect 50 square feet. The house got 9 pouches and I put 
one in the garage on the Farmall Super M. Dang mice ate the seat cover this 
year. Didn't bother it for 20 years and then this year they just gotta eat it...
The grooming machines get pieces of cloth soaked in peppermint oil. It doesn't 
100% repel them but helps a ton. We used to have terrible trouble with mice, 
now they're just an annoyance, a few poops here and there but no nests.

-Curt

On Thursday, December 2, 2021, 12:31:11 PM EST, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
 wrote:  
 
 Living in the country I fight an endless battle against mice invading the 
house. I am not sure where they get in but there must be an opening somewhere 
that I haven't discovered. I heard one the other night and set some traps, but 
caught nothing.

Today the refrigerator was making a noise so I pulled it out to investigate. 
Seems like the condensor fan motor might have a bad bearing or at least a 
vibration. A couple of years ago we painted the kitchen, and I had come up one 
outlet cover short when it came to putting them all back on. So, I left the 
cover off the outlet behind the fridge, intending to pick up a new one, but 
then forgot about it.

Hanging out of the outlet box was the mouse. Must have climbed the refrigerator 
power cord and stuck his head into the box, contacted the hot terminal, and 
zappo. Didn't trip the breaker though, as the fridge is still running. Wasn't 
sure of the shock risk so pulled the corpse out with electrician's pliers. I 
then gave it the usual final rites (threw it into the woods).

Who knows how long it would have been hanging there if the fridge hadn't 
started getting noisy.

Allan


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Re: [MBZ] OT mouse capital punishment

2021-12-02 Thread Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes
I was doing remodeling and opened up a 2-switch box to find a mouse skeleton. I 
have a pic of it somewhere. 

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> On Dec 2, 2021, at 12:31 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Living in the country I fight an endless battle against mice invading the 
> house. I am not sure where they get in but there must be an opening somewhere 
> that I haven't discovered. I heard one the other night and set some traps, 
> but caught nothing.
> 
> Today the refrigerator was making a noise so I pulled it out to investigate. 
> Seems like the condensor fan motor might have a bad bearing or at least a 
> vibration. A couple of years ago we painted the kitchen, and I had come up 
> one outlet cover short when it came to putting them all back on. So, I left 
> the cover off the outlet behind the fridge, intending to pick up a new one, 
> but then forgot about it.
> 
> Hanging out of the outlet box was the mouse. Must have climbed the 
> refrigerator power cord and stuck his head into the box, contacted the hot 
> terminal, and zappo. Didn't trip the breaker though, as the fridge is still 
> running. Wasn't sure of the shock risk so pulled the corpse out with 
> electrician's pliers. I then gave it the usual final rites (threw it into the 
> woods).
> 
> Who knows how long it would have been hanging there if the fridge hadn't 
> started getting noisy.
> 
> Allan
> 
> 
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Re: [MBZ] OT mouse capital punishment

2021-12-02 Thread mitch--- via Mercedes

On 2021-12-02 12:30, Allan Streib via Mercedes wrote:


Who knows how long it would have been hanging there if the fridge
hadn't started getting noisy.


If they're in the house or basement, my nose tells me in 2-3 days.

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