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On Jun 12, 2013 10:17 PM, Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net wrote: Hasn't Jill Cathey been through a winter now with her BMW X5? Has. She sez: I like it. OK, so, as head of the maintenance dept., do *you* like it? Any problems worth mentioning, unexpected repairs, difficulty getting parts, etc.? Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Won't be doing much sprinting with a 2.7 deisel and a full load. Did they offer any Rudolf type engines in the swamp build mum trucks? Hendrik who wouldn't mind an ML if someone else paid to get it fixed For years they were building Diesel ML in Alabammy, and shipping em all over water, telling us No! YOU can't have em;WE are a LUXURY car company;if it burns DIESEL it is smelly and noisy and not a luxury car even though the engines were not noisy, not smelly, but did burn Diesel. MomBUSA knows more about what we want than we do No A170Ds for here Sprinter here has only one engine choice in NA AFAIK. 2.7L Diesel. THey all seem to zip along just fine. loaded or not. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Sprinter here has only one engine choice in NA AFAIK. 2.7L Diesel. THey all seem to zip along just fine. loaded or not. Man I met at the pump with one was delighted with his. He had a fleet of vans, this was the newest, and got 25 mpg (?) loaded, which was by far the best of them all. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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There is someone in my neighborhood who has a domestic Sprinter. Nice paint job, tinted windows, several rows of seats, etc. nice looking vehicle for what it is. Can't park it in the garage, though. Dan Sent from my iPad On Jun 12, 2013, at 8:34 AM, Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net wrote: Sprinter here has only one engine choice in NA AFAIK. 2.7L Diesel. THey all seem to zip along just fine. loaded or not. Man I met at the pump with one was delighted with his. He had a fleet of vans, this was the newest, and got 25 mpg (?) loaded, which was by far the best of them all. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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On Jun 11, 2013 10:05 AM, Benz Hogs benz-n-h...@gulseth.net wrote: 2nd, 3rd, and 4th that. I have to work VERY hard to get my ML to slide anywhere. Wonder how that compares to the ML's arch-rival from der Vaterland by way of the Confederacy? Hasn't Jill Cathey been through a winter now with her BMW X5? Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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The MLs are from the CSA too. And Sprinters. --R On 6/12/13 1:33 PM, Alex Chamberlain wrote: On Jun 11, 2013 10:05 AM, Benz Hogs benz-n-h...@gulseth.net wrote: 2nd, 3rd, and 4th that. I have to work VERY hard to get my ML to slide anywhere. Wonder how that compares to the ML's arch-rival from der Vaterland by way of the Confederacy? Hasn't Jill Cathey been through a winter now with her BMW X5? Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Hasn't Jill Cathey been through a winter now with her BMW X5? Has. She sez: I like it. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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On Jun 10, 2013 6:59 PM, OK Don okd...@gmail.com wrote: ML320 - first version. It's great in the snow, has lots of clearance, has MB safety, the initial issues have been fixed if it's still on the road now, Wow, first time I've heard a first-gen ML recommended. They got such a bad rap when they were new. So you're saying that the initial problems weren't inherent to the design but were due to poor quality control at the (then-new) factory in Old Alabammy? Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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On 11/06/2013 10:58 AM, Alex Chamberlain wrote: On Jun 10, 2013 6:59 PM, OK Don okd...@gmail.com wrote: ML320 - first version. It's great in the snow, has lots of clearance, has MB safety, the initial issues have been fixed if it's still on the road now, Wow, first time I've heard a first-gen ML recommended. They got such a bad rap when they were new. So you're saying that the initial problems weren't inherent to the design but were due to poor quality control at the (then-new) factory in Old Alabammy? Alex ___ Do I recall correctly that they are not very good in terms of fuel economy? Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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2nd, 3rd, and 4th that. I have to work VERY hard to get my ML to slide anywhere. Parked at a friends house on their snow-packed street, and almost busted my ass when I first walked on the street. Couldn't tell it was that slick when I was driving Luther KB5QHUForest Park, IL '98 ML320 Max (166,xxx mi) On 6/10/2013 8:59 PM, OK Don wrote: ML320 - first version. It's great in the snow, has lots of clearance, has MB safety, the initial issues have been fixed if it's still on the road now, and did I mention that it's a Mercedes? On Mon, Jun 10, 2013 at 8:13 PM, clay redgh...@comcast.net wrote: I suspect she will not be in the hinterlands and it only needs to get her to and from work and the grocery store. I am told the streets are not plowed during daytime driving hours while it snows. Everybody goes home and the plows come out. Biggest issue would then be that snow fell, it made a blanket upon the road while she was at work, and it is now as many inches high as the clearance of the car. A number of options have been floated for just what sort of vehicle she wants. Being petite, she likes the venza awd. They are not yet off lease, and she is too tight with cash to purchase new. A truck would be practical. I am going to leave it to her to figure out, as I will not be affected by the weather or snow at my hovel. I do get a head scratcher about all the smaller cars that are for sale on CL in AK. Maybe they are summer cars, but not everybody there can afford seasonal vehicle ownership. clay ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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I think I averaged 20 or 21 mpg. Highest was 23, don't remember the lowest. It's a truck with a nice interior - don't compare it to a car. On Tue, Jun 11, 2013 at 11:40 AM, Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca wrote: On 11/06/2013 10:58 AM, Alex Chamberlain wrote: On Jun 10, 2013 6:59 PM, OK Don okd...@gmail.com wrote: ML320 - first version. It's great in the snow, has lots of clearance, has MB safety, the initial issues have been fixed if it's still on the road now, Wow, first time I've heard a first-gen ML recommended. They got such a bad rap when they were new. So you're saying that the initial problems weren't inherent to the design but were due to poor quality control at the (then-new) factory in Old Alabammy? Alex __**_ Do I recall correctly that they are not very good in terms of fuel economy? Randy __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- OK Don 2013 F150 2012 Passat TDI DSG 1957 C182A ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Guy asking the question drives a Ford F150 Super Crew, EPA rated (and I took the small engine with a manual trans) 14-18mpg. -Curt Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2013 15:17:27 -0500 From: OK Don okd...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Opine away Message-ID: canzcij-gw7emo+lqzk9jcwdaoethore62+jav7jncv+p5tf...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I think I averaged 20 or 21 mpg. Highest was 23, don't remember the lowest. It's a truck with a nice interior - don't compare it to a car. On Tue, Jun 11, 2013 at 11:40 AM, Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca wrote: On 11/06/2013 10:58 AM, Alex Chamberlain wrote: On Jun 10, 2013 6:59 PM, OK Don okd...@gmail.com wrote: ML320 - first version. It's great in the snow, has lots of clearance, has MB safety, the initial issues have been fixed if it's still on the road now, Wow, first time I've heard a first-gen ML recommended. They got such a bad rap when they were new. So you're saying that the initial problems weren't inherent to the design but were due to poor quality control at the (then-new) factory in Old Alabammy? Alex __**_ Do I recall correctly that they are not very good in terms of fuel economy? Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Exactly. On Tue, Jun 11, 2013 at 10:58 AM, Alex Chamberlain apchamberl...@gmail.comwrote: On Jun 10, 2013 6:59 PM, OK Don okd...@gmail.com wrote: ML320 - first version. It's great in the snow, has lots of clearance, has MB safety, the initial issues have been fixed if it's still on the road now, Wow, first time I've heard a first-gen ML recommended. They got such a bad rap when they were new. So you're saying that the initial problems weren't inherent to the design but were due to poor quality control at the (then-new) factory in Old Alabammy? Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- OK Don 2013 F150 2012 Passat TDI DSG 1957 C182A ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Was not pointing fingers. Just wanted to know if I was right that people complained about fuel economy. My truck has averaged about 16 mpg over the time I have owned it. Lowest about 10 and highest about 22 mpg. Remember that I am converting to imperial from kilometers so not US gallons. Randy On 11/06/2013 3:31 PM, Curt Raymond wrote: Guy asking the question drives a Ford F150 Super Crew, EPA rated (and I took the small engine with a manual trans) 14-18mpg. -Curt Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2013 15:17:27 -0500 From: OK Don okd...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Opine away Message-ID: canzcij-gw7emo+lqzk9jcwdaoethore62+jav7jncv+p5tf...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I think I averaged 20 or 21 mpg. Highest was 23, don't remember the lowest. It's a truck with a nice interior - don't compare it to a car. On Tue, Jun 11, 2013 at 11:40 AM, Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca wrote: On 11/06/2013 10:58 AM, Alex Chamberlain wrote: On Jun 10, 2013 6:59 PM, OK Don okd...@gmail.com wrote: ML320 - first version. It's great in the snow, has lots of clearance, has MB safety, the initial issues have been fixed if it's still on the road now, Wow, first time I've heard a first-gen ML recommended. They got such a bad rap when they were new. So you're saying that the initial problems weren't inherent to the design but were due to poor quality control at the (then-new) factory in Old Alabammy? Alex __**_ Do I recall correctly that they are not very good in terms of fuel economy? Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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I wasn't making any judgement, just pointing out. ;) Most people don't have any idea what mileage they're getting. If you ask they'll say about. I had a friend who claimed his Dodge extended cab with a 318 v8 would do about 20mpg. We did a trip to Vermont one time where I clocked it at 18mpg. Its hilly in Vermont but he was holding the speed down really trying to get the mileage up. After that he started really checking and realized on average he did more like 15mpg. That'd be on 128oz gallons. -Curt Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2013 15:53:51 -0500 From: Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Opine away Message-ID: 51b78e5f.90...@bennell.ca Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Was not pointing fingers. Just wanted to know if I was right that people complained about fuel economy. My truck has averaged about 16 mpg over the time I have owned it. Lowest about 10 and highest about 22 mpg. Remember that I am converting to imperial from kilometers so not US gallons. Randy On 11/06/2013 3:31 PM, Curt Raymond wrote: Guy asking the question drives a Ford F150 Super Crew, EPA rated (and I took the small engine with a manual trans) 14-18mpg. -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Did you get the 2.7 compression ignition engine over there? I am starting to see a few cheaper M class over here but I read this http://www.carsurvey.org/reviews/mercedes-benz/m-class/ and move on. Hendrik who has a two wheel drive SUV On 12/06/13 05:47, OK Don wrote: I think I averaged 20 or 21 mpg. Highest was 23, don't remember the lowest. It's a truck with a nice interior - don't compare it to a car. On Tue, Jun 11, 2013 at 11:40 AM, Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca wrote: On 11/06/2013 10:58 AM, Alex Chamberlain wrote: On Jun 10, 2013 6:59 PM, OK Don okd...@gmail.com wrote: ML320 - first version. It's great in the snow, has lots of clearance, has MB safety, the initial issues have been fixed if it's still on the road now, Wow, first time I've heard a first-gen ML recommended. They got such a bad rap when they were new. So you're saying that the initial problems weren't inherent to the design but were due to poor quality control at the (then-new) factory in Old Alabammy? Alex __**_ Do I recall correctly that they are not very good in terms of fuel economy? Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Hendrik and Fay wrote: Did you get the 2.7 compression ignition engine over there? In the Sprinter. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Won't be doing much sprinting with a 2.7 deisel and a full load. Did they offer any Rudolf type engines in the swamp build mum trucks? Hendrik who wouldn't mind an ML if someone else paid to get it fixed On 12/06/13 10:31, Mitch Haley wrote: Hendrik and Fay wrote: Did you get the 2.7 compression ignition engine over there? In the Sprinter. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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I have no plans to travel farther than the 49th parallel. clay On Jun 7, 2013, at 8:57 AM, Randy Bennell wrote: On 07/06/2013 1:42 AM, clay wrote: Sadly she is practical and thrifty. For her upcoming birthday all she wants is the house to be clean. WTF!?! Cash is something to be hoarded in her mind. I wait patiently until her new car falls apart in a year or so. Then again, she is going to sell that and move to Alaska, where she will drive some other conveyance. Getting that thing will be a whole other crate of worms clay You mentioned this bit before. Are you going to Alaska too? Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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How deep is the snow likely to be? If I were looking for a snow vehicle it would be a 4X4 truck with some clearance. Our old 4Runner was pretty good and I have no complaints about my F150. Both are the sort that cannot be driven on dry pavement in 4 wheel drive but are pretty stable on slippery roads and will plough through snow as they have some clearance. AWD cars are interesting but don't have the clearance to permit them to go where the roads don't get cleared pretty quickly. Randy On 09/06/2013 10:38 PM, clay wrote: Thank you Randy. SWMBA will be purchasing an new to her car in about a year. She needs something to drive in Anchorage. I do not need a car for snow, as I intend to remain parked in my home in the lower 48. She is making a career move that requires (?) a car for snow. I do like the cars I have. There is going to come a time for the E300 to require massive infusions of dollars to bring it back to a reasonably safe condition. That time is not now, but maybe when the bushings die, the suspension sags, the engine leaks and burns coolant, and the seats and carpet are all broken springs and threadbare tufting. In my mind, that is in another 400k miles. clay On Jun 6, 2013, at 8:40 AM, Randy Bennell wrote: On 06/06/2013 12:45 AM, clay wrote: At the moment I am doing battle with SWMBA over the replacement for the E300. I would prefer it just get fixed and life go on, but she has a bug up her ... bonnet, that a more reliable car be found. These fit my taste. What should I be aware of, and which should be avoided? clay Cannot recall what is wrong with the one you have. Have to suggest that, if the cost of repair is reasonable and the rest of the one you have is good, then you are likely better off keeping it. My truck is in that category. It is an 02 with 170K miles on it and is developing a bit of rust on the driver's side rocker panel. Runs good, AC works etc. Should consider moving on but cannot see anything I want more unless I buy new and I rarely do. Last new one was in 1977. Too much $$. So, I would be fearful of getting into something that has more issues than what I already have. Now, having said that, if your good wife has just come to a point in time where she wants, or thinks she wants a different vehicle, then you are not going to win this one. Even if she agrees to fix and keep, you will likely end up changing vehicles for her in the near future. So, having said that, I think my advice would be to buy newer and probably the newest you think you can afford. Newer vehicles do tend to have some advantages - usually safer - and hopefully a lower likelyhood of issues. For example, my 02 F150 was 5 years old when I got it and I have had it almost 7 years. I have done very little work on it in that time. It has thus been very easy to own and that contributes to my willingness to keep it for the foreseeable future. My 2 cents for whatever that is worth. Randy ___ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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I'd like to think Alaskans are smart enough to know if you're plowing snow down the road you shouldn't have come out. We had a blizzard back in February and they closed the roads which is basically unheard of. The government took some flack but compared to the hundreds of people stranded in their cars in NY it was a good choice. People in NY said I had to go to work to which I replied It was an early evening storm, you should have STAYED at work... People around here with 4wd would be better off in a 2wd with snow tires. If its so bad you really have to have 4wd you probably shouldn't be out. I remember in 2008 we had an ice storm and my in-laws complained You can't go anywhere there's utility crews blocking up the roads. I tried to be patient when I explained that getting in the way of the utility crews would only make it take longer for the power to come on. -Curt Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2013 16:18:56 -0500 From: Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Opine away Message-ID: 51b642c0.6000...@bennell.ca Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed How deep is the snow likely to be? If I were looking for a snow vehicle it would be a 4X4 truck with some clearance. Our old 4Runner was pretty good and I have no complaints about my F150. Both are the sort that cannot be driven on dry pavement in 4 wheel drive but are pretty stable on slippery roads and will plough through snow as they have some clearance. AWD cars are interesting but don't have the clearance to permit them to go where the roads don't get cleared pretty quickly. Randy On 09/06/2013 10:38 PM, clay wrote: Thank you Randy. SWMBA will be purchasing an new to her car in about a year. She needs something to drive in Anchorage. I do not need a car for snow, as I intend to remain parked in my home in the lower 48. She is making a career move that requires (?) a car for snow. I do like the cars I have. There is going to come a time for the E300 to require massive infusions of dollars to bring it back to a reasonably safe condition. That time is not now, but maybe when the bushings die, the suspension sags, the engine leaks and burns coolant, and the seats and carpet are all broken springs and threadbare tufting. In my mind, that is in another 400k miles. clay ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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In my experience (1) 4WD lets you to get stuck in places where other people would never go and (2) a locking differential in 2WD is often better than 4WD with open differentials. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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I was not really talking about blizzards. My back lane is often drifted and has ruts from other vehicles going out. I don't have trouble after I get a few blocks onto more travelled roads but I have to say that I worry much less about getting from my parking spot to the major streets with 4 wheel drive. Turn the switch and just chug along until it is not needed anymore. I swear I will not be without 4 wheel drive again so long as I live in snow country and clearance is your friend when the snow is even ankle deep. Randy On 10/06/2013 5:05 PM, Curt Raymond wrote: I'd like to think Alaskans are smart enough to know if you're plowing snow down the road you shouldn't have come out. We had a blizzard back in February and they closed the roads which is basically unheard of. The government took some flack but compared to the hundreds of people stranded in their cars in NY it was a good choice. People in NY said I had to go to work to which I replied It was an early evening storm, you should have STAYED at work... People around here with 4wd would be better off in a 2wd with snow tires. If its so bad you really have to have 4wd you probably shouldn't be out. I remember in 2008 we had an ice storm and my in-laws complained You can't go anywhere there's utility crews blocking up the roads. I tried to be patient when I explained that getting in the way of the utility crews would only make it take longer for the power to come on. -Curt Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2013 16:18:56 -0500 From: Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Opine away Message-ID: 51b642c0.6000...@bennell.ca Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed How deep is the snow likely to be? If I were looking for a snow vehicle it would be a 4X4 truck with some clearance. Our old 4Runner was pretty good and I have no complaints about my F150. Both are the sort that cannot be driven on dry pavement in 4 wheel drive but are pretty stable on slippery roads and will plough through snow as they have some clearance. AWD cars are interesting but don't have the clearance to permit them to go where the roads don't get cleared pretty quickly. Randy On 09/06/2013 10:38 PM, clay wrote: Thank you Randy. SWMBA will be purchasing an new to her car in about a year. She needs something to drive in Anchorage. I do not need a car for snow, as I intend to remain parked in my home in the lower 48. She is making a career move that requires (?) a car for snow. I do like the cars I have. There is going to come a time for the E300 to require massive infusions of dollars to bring it back to a reasonably safe condition. That time is not now, but maybe when the bushings die, the suspension sags, the engine leaks and burns coolant, and the seats and carpet are all broken springs and threadbare tufting. In my mind, that is in another 400k miles. clay ___ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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On 10/06/2013 5:21 PM, Scott Ritchey wrote: In my experience (1) 4WD lets you to get stuck in places where other people would never go and (2) a locking differential in 2WD is often better than 4WD with open differentials. ___ If you are going to go where the big 4X4 truck gets stuck, you need the winch on the front etc. Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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If theres so much snow I can't get through it with my 240D and snow tires I shouldn't be out. It'll push snow up to the top of the bumper with little concern, deeper if its powder. A heavy car with narrow tires and not too much power is a good snow vehicle. Scott is right about a locking differential, my Ranger has a mere limited slip and its made all the difference sometimes. When we were at camp last month there was one road my parent's open diff Jeep Liberty just couldn't make that the Ranger could (but only barely). -Curt Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2013 17:25:30 -0500 From: Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Opine away Message-ID: 51b6525a.4080...@bennell.ca Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed I was not really talking about blizzards. My back lane is often drifted and has ruts from other vehicles going out. I don't have trouble after I get a few blocks onto more travelled roads but I have to say that I worry much less about getting from my parking spot to the major streets with 4 wheel drive. Turn the switch and just chug along until it is not needed anymore. I swear I will not be without 4 wheel drive again so long as I live in snow country and clearance is your friend when the snow is even ankle deep. Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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How deep is the snow likely to be? If I were looking for a snow vehicle it would be a 4X4 truck with some clearance. Our old 4Runner was pretty good and I have no complaints about my F150. Both are the sort that cannot be driven on dry pavement in 4 wheel drive but are pretty stable on slippery roads and will plough through snow as they have some clearance. AWD cars are interesting but don't have the clearance to permit them to go where the roads don't get cleared pretty quickly. Randy As WIlton would say: Zactly! I could go anywhere in a 200D or a 240D until the snow got so deep the car floated on the floor pans. Don't need 4WD in most cases. What you need to get through snow is clearance, Clarence. When I put 7.50 16 michelin MS tars on my broco, I gained a couple of inches of ground clearance. Maybe 3-4 total gain over the factory small 15 tars. In between I had N78-15 ambulance tars on it to get more clearance. A well balanced 2wd car with 2 sand sacks and good tires will go anywhere it has clearance. For maximum deep snow travel, you want a 2ton truck or larger with 22.5 tires on, and lots of weight to give the tires traction. Or a front assist tractor (working cab and heater are nice...) I drove the ol 65 shovey to GR MI and back in a blizzard in '80 or so. It did fine. visibility was bad at times, but the car did ok. something like 1200 miles round trip. Schnee through IL, IN and MI. A loaded truck will go through deep schnee when no car can. (pickups are not really trucks unless they are grossed out.) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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I talked my Mom into buying a Subaru Forester when she moved to Alaska. After her first whole winter with it up there she couldn't be happier. Mike On Jun 7, 2013 2:42 AM, clay redgh...@comcast.net wrote: Sadly she is practical and thrifty. For her upcoming birthday all she wants is the house to be clean. WTF!?! Cash is something to be hoarded in her mind. I wait patiently until her new car falls apart in a year or so. Then again, she is going to sell that and move to Alaska, where she will drive some other conveyance. Getting that thing will be a whole other crate of worms clay 1974 450sl - Frosch - Two tone green 1972 220D - Gump - She was green, simple and ran 1995 E300D - Gave her life to save me against a Dame in a SUV POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers On Jun 6, 2013, at 7:07 AM, Dieselhead wrote: Tell her that no matter how much cash you spend there is no guarantee that even a brand new car will be more reliable. Just fix the E and call it a day. She'll quit whining when you buy her nice things with the car payment money...lol Mikd Hear Hear! I see a lot more newish cars F.O.R.D than E300Ds (which to me is still newish) I see very few MBs F.O.R.D. You just need to find something else she wants more than a new car. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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I suspect she will not be in the hinterlands and it only needs to get her to and from work and the grocery store. I am told the streets are not plowed during daytime driving hours while it snows. Everybody goes home and the plows come out. Biggest issue would then be that snow fell, it made a blanket upon the road while she was at work, and it is now as many inches high as the clearance of the car. A number of options have been floated for just what sort of vehicle she wants. Being petite, she likes the venza awd. They are not yet off lease, and she is too tight with cash to purchase new. A truck would be practical. I am going to leave it to her to figure out, as I will not be affected by the weather or snow at my hovel. I do get a head scratcher about all the smaller cars that are for sale on CL in AK. Maybe they are summer cars, but not everybody there can afford seasonal vehicle ownership. clay On Jun 10, 2013, at 2:18 PM, Randy Bennell wrote: How deep is the snow likely to be? If I were looking for a snow vehicle it would be a 4X4 truck with some clearance. Our old 4Runner was pretty good and I have no complaints about my F150. Both are the sort that cannot be driven on dry pavement in 4 wheel drive but are pretty stable on slippery roads and will plough through snow as they have some clearance. AWD cars are interesting but don't have the clearance to permit them to go where the roads don't get cleared pretty quickly. Randy On 09/06/2013 10:38 PM, clay wrote: Thank you Randy. SWMBA will be purchasing an new to her car in about a year. She needs something to drive in Anchorage. I do not need a car for snow, as I intend to remain parked in my home in the lower 48. She is making a career move that requires (?) a car for snow. I do like the cars I have. There is going to come a time for the E300 to require massive infusions of dollars to bring it back to a reasonably safe condition. That time is not now, but maybe when the bushings die, the suspension sags, the engine leaks and burns coolant, and the seats and carpet are all broken springs and threadbare tufting. In my mind, that is in another 400k miles. clay On Jun 6, 2013, at 8:40 AM, Randy Bennell wrote: On 06/06/2013 12:45 AM, clay wrote: At the moment I am doing battle with SWMBA over the replacement for the E300. I would prefer it just get fixed and life go on, but she has a bug up her ... bonnet, that a more reliable car be found. These fit my taste. What should I be aware of, and which should be avoided? clay Cannot recall what is wrong with the one you have. Have to suggest that, if the cost of repair is reasonable and the rest of the one you have is good, then you are likely better off keeping it. My truck is in that category. It is an 02 with 170K miles on it and is developing a bit of rust on the driver's side rocker panel. Runs good, AC works etc. Should consider moving on but cannot see anything I want more unless I buy new and I rarely do. Last new one was in 1977. Too much $$. So, I would be fearful of getting into something that has more issues than what I already have. Now, having said that, if your good wife has just come to a point in time where she wants, or thinks she wants a different vehicle, then you are not going to win this one. Even if she agrees to fix and keep, you will likely end up changing vehicles for her in the near future. So, having said that, I think my advice would be to buy newer and probably the newest you think you can afford. Newer vehicles do tend to have some advantages - usually safer - and hopefully a lower likelyhood of issues. For example, my 02 F150 was 5 years old when I got it and I have had it almost 7 years. I have done very little work on it in that time. It has thus been very easy to own and that contributes to my willingness to keep it for the foreseeable future. My 2 cents for whatever that is worth. Randy ___ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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clay wrote: I have no plans to travel farther than the 49th parallel. Tell your wife not to let any weird looking hitchhikers in the truck next time. http://gifs.gifbin.com/062013/1370886171_bear_opens_car_door_like_a_person.gif ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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ML320 - first version. It's great in the snow, has lots of clearance, has MB safety, the initial issues have been fixed if it's still on the road now, and did I mention that it's a Mercedes? On Mon, Jun 10, 2013 at 8:13 PM, clay redgh...@comcast.net wrote: I suspect she will not be in the hinterlands and it only needs to get her to and from work and the grocery store. I am told the streets are not plowed during daytime driving hours while it snows. Everybody goes home and the plows come out. Biggest issue would then be that snow fell, it made a blanket upon the road while she was at work, and it is now as many inches high as the clearance of the car. A number of options have been floated for just what sort of vehicle she wants. Being petite, she likes the venza awd. They are not yet off lease, and she is too tight with cash to purchase new. A truck would be practical. I am going to leave it to her to figure out, as I will not be affected by the weather or snow at my hovel. I do get a head scratcher about all the smaller cars that are for sale on CL in AK. Maybe they are summer cars, but not everybody there can afford seasonal vehicle ownership. clay -- OK Don 2013 F150 2012 Passat TDI DSG 1957 C182A ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Thank you Randy. SWMBA will be purchasing an new to her car in about a year. She needs something to drive in Anchorage. I do not need a car for snow, as I intend to remain parked in my home in the lower 48. She is making a career move that requires (?) a car for snow. I do like the cars I have. There is going to come a time for the E300 to require massive infusions of dollars to bring it back to a reasonably safe condition. That time is not now, but maybe when the bushings die, the suspension sags, the engine leaks and burns coolant, and the seats and carpet are all broken springs and threadbare tufting. In my mind, that is in another 400k miles. clay On Jun 6, 2013, at 8:40 AM, Randy Bennell wrote: On 06/06/2013 12:45 AM, clay wrote: At the moment I am doing battle with SWMBA over the replacement for the E300. I would prefer it just get fixed and life go on, but she has a bug up her ... bonnet, that a more reliable car be found. These fit my taste. What should I be aware of, and which should be avoided? clay Cannot recall what is wrong with the one you have. Have to suggest that, if the cost of repair is reasonable and the rest of the one you have is good, then you are likely better off keeping it. My truck is in that category. It is an 02 with 170K miles on it and is developing a bit of rust on the driver's side rocker panel. Runs good, AC works etc. Should consider moving on but cannot see anything I want more unless I buy new and I rarely do. Last new one was in 1977. Too much $$. So, I would be fearful of getting into something that has more issues than what I already have. Now, having said that, if your good wife has just come to a point in time where she wants, or thinks she wants a different vehicle, then you are not going to win this one. Even if she agrees to fix and keep, you will likely end up changing vehicles for her in the near future. So, having said that, I think my advice would be to buy newer and probably the newest you think you can afford. Newer vehicles do tend to have some advantages - usually safer - and hopefully a lower likelyhood of issues. For example, my 02 F150 was 5 years old when I got it and I have had it almost 7 years. I have done very little work on it in that time. It has thus been very easy to own and that contributes to my willingness to keep it for the foreseeable future. My 2 cents for whatever that is worth. Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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I may have won this battle. The war continues. Got the E300 headed to the shop on the 17th. Found a PnP 95 in green with the bumper and fender, so all it will need is respray. Should be able to pull it in under $2k. Then SWMBA will demand that the car be sold so that a new bucket of problems on wheels can be had. She is leaning toward oriental cars. I remain unwilling to visit any dealer lots. clay On Jun 6, 2013, at 6:56 AM, Michael Canfield wrote: Tell her that no matter how much cash you spend there is no guarantee that even a brand new car will be more reliable. Just fix the E and call it a day. She'll quit whining when you buy her nice things with the car payment money...lol Mikd On Jun 6, 2013 1:45 AM, clay redgh...@comcast.net wrote: At the moment I am doing battle with SWMBA over the replacement for the E300. I would prefer it just get fixed and life go on, but she has a bug up her ... bonnet, that a more reliable car be found. These fit my taste. What should I be aware of, and which should be avoided? clay http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/cto/3844133766.html http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/cto/3785410731.html http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/cto/3825744594.html http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/cto/3836775453.html http://seattle.craigslist.org/tac/cto/3838172819.html http://seattle.craigslist.org/est/cto/3840018790.html http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/cto/3784349504.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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I do think the CDI is more reliable than the rest of the w210 line. Too many questions about quality on the earlier models. Of course, SWMBA reads Consumer Report and tells me what rolling turds the benz are. Even though she drove that E300 for 8 years and down graded to a korean sedan. clay 1974 450sl - Frosch - Two tone green 1972 220D - Gump - She was green, simple and ran 1995 E300D - Gave her life to save me against a Dame in a SUV POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers On Jun 6, 2013, at 7:10 AM, Max wrote: No such thing as a cheap Mercedes, if reliability is what you are after. In my mind, the sweet spot for diesel Mercedes is 2005/6. 1998/9 turbo diesel sedan would be next, but due to the age maybe not as reliable. -- Max Dillon Charleston, SC '95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Sadly she is practical and thrifty. For her upcoming birthday all she wants is the house to be clean. WTF!?! Cash is something to be hoarded in her mind. I wait patiently until her new car falls apart in a year or so. Then again, she is going to sell that and move to Alaska, where she will drive some other conveyance. Getting that thing will be a whole other crate of worms clay 1974 450sl - Frosch - Two tone green 1972 220D - Gump - She was green, simple and ran 1995 E300D - Gave her life to save me against a Dame in a SUV POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers On Jun 6, 2013, at 7:07 AM, Dieselhead wrote: Tell her that no matter how much cash you spend there is no guarantee that even a brand new car will be more reliable. Just fix the E and call it a day. She'll quit whining when you buy her nice things with the car payment money...lol Mikd Hear Hear! I see a lot more newish cars F.O.R.D than E300Ds (which to me is still newish) I see very few MBs F.O.R.D. You just need to find something else she wants more than a new car. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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That's great to hear!!! I had thought the damage may have been to severe to fix. Hopefully things will turn out OK you'll be able to keep it! On 6/7/2013 2:34 AM, clay wrote: I may have won this battle. The war continues. Got the E300 headed to the shop on the 17th. Found a PnP 95 in green with the bumper and fender, so all it will need is respray. Should be able to pull it in under $2k. -- Chris J. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Well at the risk of opening a can of worms, I can tell you that a friend recently acquired a 2000 Lexus LS400 and really loves it. They had an E430 4matic that his wife drove. He liked it but she did not - thought it too big. He thinks he likes this one a lot more - at least in party because it was much less expensive. It has about 180K miles and he paid $3700. He has since done some work on the suspension - ball joints etc but he likes it and it looks good. Randy On 07/06/2013 1:34 AM, clay wrote: I may have won this battle. The war continues. Got the E300 headed to the shop on the 17th. Found a PnP 95 in green with the bumper and fender, so all it will need is respray. Should be able to pull it in under $2k. Then SWMBA will demand that the car be sold so that a new bucket of problems on wheels can be had. She is leaning toward oriental cars. I remain unwilling to visit any dealer lots. clay On Jun 6, 2013, at 6:56 AM, Michael Canfield wrote: Tell her that no matter how much cash you spend there is no guarantee that even a brand new car will be more reliable. Just fix the E and call it a day. She'll quit whining when you buy her nice things with the car payment money...lol Mikd On Jun 6, 2013 1:45 AM, clay redgh...@comcast.net wrote: At the moment I am doing battle with SWMBA over the replacement for the E300. I would prefer it just get fixed and life go on, but she has a bug up her ... bonnet, that a more reliable car be found. These fit my taste. What should I be aware of, and which should be avoided? clay http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/cto/3844133766.html http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/cto/3785410731.html http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/cto/3825744594.html http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/cto/3836775453.html http://seattle.craigslist.org/tac/cto/3838172819.html http://seattle.craigslist.org/est/cto/3840018790.html http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/cto/3784349504.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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On 07/06/2013 1:42 AM, clay wrote: Sadly she is practical and thrifty. For her upcoming birthday all she wants is the house to be clean. WTF!?! Cash is something to be hoarded in her mind. I wait patiently until her new car falls apart in a year or so. Then again, she is going to sell that and move to Alaska, where she will drive some other conveyance. Getting that thing will be a whole other crate of worms clay You mentioned this bit before. Are you going to Alaska too? Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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My brother got a one owner driven by an old lady to church Lexus LS300 or 400 a year or so ago. I rode in it last time I was there. Very MB-like in that the ride and car were very solid, controls were well thought out, etc. He has had very little trouble or work on it. Says its been a great car and is very reliable. He got it through an auction buddy who trolls the local car auctions for stuff like this. Dan Sent from my iPad On Jun 7, 2013, at 11:50 AM, Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca wrote: Well at the risk of opening a can of worms, I can tell you that a friend recently acquired a 2000 Lexus LS400 and really loves it. They had an E430 4matic that his wife drove. He liked it but she did not - thought it too big. He thinks he likes this one a lot more - at least in party because it was much less expensive. It has about 180K miles and he paid $3700. He has since done some work on the suspension - ball joints etc but he likes it and it looks good. Randy On 07/06/2013 1:34 AM, clay wrote: I may have won this battle. The war continues. Got the E300 headed to the shop on the 17th. Found a PnP 95 in green with the bumper and fender, so all it will need is respray. Should be able to pull it in under $2k. Then SWMBA will demand that the car be sold so that a new bucket of problems on wheels can be had. She is leaning toward oriental cars. I remain unwilling to visit any dealer lots. clay On Jun 6, 2013, at 6:56 AM, Michael Canfield wrote: Tell her that no matter how much cash you spend there is no guarantee that even a brand new car will be more reliable. Just fix the E and call it a day. She'll quit whining when you buy her nice things with the car payment money...lol Mikd On Jun 6, 2013 1:45 AM, clay redgh...@comcast.net wrote: At the moment I am doing battle with SWMBA over the replacement for the E300. I would prefer it just get fixed and life go on, but she has a bug up her ... bonnet, that a more reliable car be found. These fit my taste. What should I be aware of, and which should be avoided? clay http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/cto/3844133766.html http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/cto/3785410731.html http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/cto/3825744594.html http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/cto/3836775453.html http://seattle.craigslist.org/tac/cto/3838172819.html http://seattle.craigslist.org/est/cto/3840018790.html http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/cto/3784349504.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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My son's Lexus isf is a very scary but totally awesome ride. http://www.edmunds.com/lexus/is-f/2012/?mktcat=lexus-is-f-speckw=lexus+isf+specsmktid=ga48393484gclid=CLG0x9rI0rcCFWhp7AodqiEAnA On Fri, Jun 7, 2013 at 12:05 PM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: My brother got a one owner driven by an old lady to church Lexus LS300 or 400 a year or so ago. I rode in it last time I was there. Very MB-like in that the ride and car were very solid, controls were well thought out, etc. He has had very little trouble or work on it. Says its been a great car and is very reliable. He got it through an auction buddy who trolls the local car auctions for stuff like this. Dan Sent from my iPad On Jun 7, 2013, at 11:50 AM, Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca wrote: Well at the risk of opening a can of worms, I can tell you that a friend recently acquired a 2000 Lexus LS400 and really loves it. They had an E430 4matic that his wife drove. He liked it but she did not - thought it too big. He thinks he likes this one a lot more - at least in party because it was much less expensive. It has about 180K miles and he paid $3700. He has since done some work on the suspension - ball joints etc but he likes it and it looks good. Randy On 07/06/2013 1:34 AM, clay wrote: I may have won this battle. The war continues. Got the E300 headed to the shop on the 17th. Found a PnP 95 in green with the bumper and fender, so all it will need is respray. Should be able to pull it in under $2k. Then SWMBA will demand that the car be sold so that a new bucket of problems on wheels can be had. She is leaning toward oriental cars. I remain unwilling to visit any dealer lots. clay On Jun 6, 2013, at 6:56 AM, Michael Canfield wrote: Tell her that no matter how much cash you spend there is no guarantee that even a brand new car will be more reliable. Just fix the E and call it a day. She'll quit whining when you buy her nice things with the car payment money...lol Mikd On Jun 6, 2013 1:45 AM, clay redgh...@comcast.net wrote: At the moment I am doing battle with SWMBA over the replacement for the E300. I would prefer it just get fixed and life go on, but she has a bug up her ... bonnet, that a more reliable car be found. These fit my taste. What should I be aware of, and which should be avoided? clay http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/cto/3844133766.html http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/cto/3785410731.html http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/cto/3825744594.html http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/cto/3836775453.html http://seattle.craigslist.org/tac/cto/3838172819.html http://seattle.craigslist.org/est/cto/3840018790.html http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/cto/3784349504.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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On Jun 7, 2013, at 11:05 AM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: My brother got a one owner driven by an old lady to church Lexus LS300 or 400 a year or so ago. I rode in it last time I was there. Very MB-like in that the ride and car were very solid, controls were well thought out, etc. I had read somewhere that the Lexus LS400 sedan was copied after the w126. Toyota bought one, took it apart bolt by bolt, and copied the suspension, etc. Not sure if there is any truth to that, but it does sound plausible. The Japanese were notorious for copying successful designs in the seventies and eighties, to the point of having lawsuits filed against them in some instances. A low milage Lexus LS400 would be a fine transportation appliance. Rick Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Let's see - the Subaru was a copy of the German Goliath, the Datsun 1600 was a copy of the MGB or MGA - donT remember exactly now, what else? On Fri, Jun 7, 2013 at 4:26 PM, Rick Knoble rickkno...@hotmail.com wrote: I had read somewhere that the Lexus LS400 sedan was copied after the w126. Toyota bought one, took it apart bolt by bolt, and copied the suspension, etc. Not sure if there is any truth to that, but it does sound plausible. The Japanese were notorious for copying successful designs in the seventies and eighties, to the point of having lawsuits filed against them in some instances. -- OK Don 2013 F150 2012 Passat TDI DSG 1957 C182A ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Some more interesting cars! I enjoyed browsing your local CL, you have quite the selection to choose from! It would certainly be fun to spend a day(s?) going looking at all the cars in your locale! :) This one has got to be at the top of the list! Beautiful, nearly fully loaded black 1997 E300D (real heated leather, not Tex! Every option except power rear shade) http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/cto/3838058682.html 2002 C320 (Nicely equipped!): http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/cto/3789041487.html 2000 ML55 (AMG, need I say more!): http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/cto/3785605888.html 2003 CLK320 Cab (last year, well optioned!): http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/cto/3837874261.html 1993 Limited Edition 190E 2.6 (Very nice!): http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/cto/3836344982.html 1987 300E (Nice, if your a fan of DB877 Petrol or Blue/Green!) http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/cto/3850009453.html Out of state (IL), just came across this 40Kmi 1987 300E? Think I prefer the DB261 seafoam over the DB877 blue/green. I would expect to drop a few K's on it getting it mechanically up to snuff due to age/storage though. Would be a shame to drive it though, a display car really http://www.dealerrater.com/classifieds/1987-Mercedes-Benz-300E-ad-WDBEA30D9HA387966/ As to your list, that '94 S350D you found looks interesting too the'98 S420, very well presented probably the best of the lot! Wasn't really impressed with the E320 Cabs you found though. Save up get a nicer example that would not need a lot invested in it...if your really interested in one, I say -- Chris J. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Wow, 124 ragtop prices are half what I remember from a few years ago. I really like green/saddle in those better than white/gray. Sprinter prices seem to have become even more silly than before. $22k for a 10 1/2 year old? The 2004 ML seems reasonably priced. Mitch ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Chris James wrote: 1993 Limited Edition 190E 2.6 (Very nice!): http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/cto/3836344982.html Why no Sportline badges on the front fenders? Did the Sportline seats have those red inserts in them in 1993? I'd have to take a close look at my 16v and 2.5 turbo before I could say whether it's got the Sportline sized steering wheel. The shift knob doesn't look leather, but I'm not familiar with auto tranny Sportlines, I always used to look for manuals. I don't think those wheels came from a W201. That 'carbon fiber' in the dash looks aftermarket to me. I'm thinking that somebody got a hold of a four passenger seat set and modified a non-Sportline car's interior, and stuck W124 wheels on it. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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At the moment I am doing battle with SWMBA over the replacement for the E300. I would prefer it just get fixed and life go on, but she has a bug up her ... bonnet, that a more reliable car be found. These fit my taste. What should I be aware of, and which should be avoided? clay http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/cto/3844133766.html http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/cto/3785410731.html http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/cto/3825744594.html http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/cto/3836775453.html http://seattle.craigslist.org/tac/cto/3838172819.html http://seattle.craigslist.org/est/cto/3840018790.html http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/cto/3784349504.html E320 is about as reliable as any newish car. I'd choose your E300D. I think it is the best of the lot. (without seeing pictures...) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Tell her that no matter how much cash you spend there is no guarantee that even a brand new car will be more reliable. Just fix the E and call it a day. She'll quit whining when you buy her nice things with the car payment money...lol Mikd On Jun 6, 2013 1:45 AM, clay redgh...@comcast.net wrote: At the moment I am doing battle with SWMBA over the replacement for the E300. I would prefer it just get fixed and life go on, but she has a bug up her ... bonnet, that a more reliable car be found. These fit my taste. What should I be aware of, and which should be avoided? clay http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/cto/3844133766.html http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/cto/3785410731.html http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/cto/3825744594.html http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/cto/3836775453.html http://seattle.craigslist.org/tac/cto/3838172819.html http://seattle.craigslist.org/est/cto/3840018790.html http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/cto/3784349504.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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No such thing as a cheap Mercedes, if reliability is what you are after. In my mind, the sweet spot for diesel Mercedes is 2005/6. 1998/9 turbo diesel sedan would be next, but due to the age maybe not as reliable. -- Max Dillon Charleston, SC '95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Tell her that no matter how much cash you spend there is no guarantee that even a brand new car will be more reliable. Just fix the E and call it a day. She'll quit whining when you buy her nice things with the car payment money...lol Mikd Hear Hear! I see a lot more newish cars F.O.R.D than E300Ds (which to me is still newish) I see very few MBs F.O.R.D. You just need to find something else she wants more than a new car. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Get the car with the border collie. They are great dogs! I grew up with one in NYC that treated humans as sheep and tried to herd them. This involved rooting under ladies' dresses with his snout. Screams ensured, but not much hilarity except from me. On Thu, Jun 6, 2013 at 1:45 AM, clay redgh...@comcast.net wrote: At the moment I am doing battle with SWMBA over the replacement for the E300. I would prefer it just get fixed and life go on, but she has a bug up her ... bonnet, that a more reliable car be found. These fit my taste. What should I be aware of, and which should be avoided? clay http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/cto/3844133766.html http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/cto/3785410731.html http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/cto/3825744594.html http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/cto/3836775453.html http://seattle.craigslist.org/tac/cto/3838172819.html http://seattle.craigslist.org/est/cto/3840018790.html http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/cto/3784349504.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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On 06/06/2013 12:45 AM, clay wrote: At the moment I am doing battle with SWMBA over the replacement for the E300. I would prefer it just get fixed and life go on, but she has a bug up her ... bonnet, that a more reliable car be found. These fit my taste. What should I be aware of, and which should be avoided? clay Cannot recall what is wrong with the one you have. Have to suggest that, if the cost of repair is reasonable and the rest of the one you have is good, then you are likely better off keeping it. My truck is in that category. It is an 02 with 170K miles on it and is developing a bit of rust on the driver's side rocker panel. Runs good, AC works etc. Should consider moving on but cannot see anything I want more unless I buy new and I rarely do. Last new one was in 1977. Too much $$. So, I would be fearful of getting into something that has more issues than what I already have. Now, having said that, if your good wife has just come to a point in time where she wants, or thinks she wants a different vehicle, then you are not going to win this one. Even if she agrees to fix and keep, you will likely end up changing vehicles for her in the near future. So, having said that, I think my advice would be to buy newer and probably the newest you think you can afford. Newer vehicles do tend to have some advantages - usually safer - and hopefully a lower likelyhood of issues. For example, my 02 F150 was 5 years old when I got it and I have had it almost 7 years. I have done very little work on it in that time. It has thus been very easy to own and that contributes to my willingness to keep it for the foreseeable future. My 2 cents for whatever that is worth. Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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No, that is a real Limited Edition! The seller does note that he wrapped the original trim due to cracking, it's very similar to the original though. I'm surprised you've never heard of them or seen one. 700 each were produced of the 190E 2.3 2.6 for the '93 MY. There was no charge for the additional equipment totaling around $3K, a steal really! The 2.3 came in monotone metallic emerald green w/ cream beige leather additional burl wood trim, the 2.6 in two tone black w/ black red leather sport seats carbon fiber trim. Easily recognizable by the 8 hole rims headlight wipers, which at the time were either not available (in the case if the rims) or rarely seen on the standard 190. Despite the handling upgrades sport seats/trim on the 2.6 Limited Edition it did not have Sportline exterior badging, also the standard model designation was omitted on the trunk lid of both models. The 2.6 did have a Sportline gearshift knob though. A look back at the 1993 Mercedes 190E 2.6 Limited Edition - a classic ahead of its time. http://www.examiner.com/article/a-look-back-at-the-1993-mercedes-190e-2-6-limited-edition-a-classic-ahead-of-its-time On 6/6/2013 7:54 AM, Mitch Haley wrote: Chris James wrote: 1993 Limited Edition 190E 2.6 (Very nice!): http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/cto/3836344982.html Why no Sportline badges on the front fenders? Did the Sportline seats have those red inserts in them in 1993? I'd have to take a close look at my 16v and 2.5 turbo before I could say whether it's got the Sportline sized steering wheel. The shift knob doesn't look leather, but I'm not familiar with auto tranny Sportlines, I always used to look for manuals. I don't think those wheels came from a W201. That 'carbon fiber' in the dash looks aftermarket to me. I'm thinking that somebody got a hold of a four passenger seat set and modified a non-Sportline car's interior, and stuck W124 wheels on it. Mitch. -- Chris J. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Tell her that 210's are rust buckets and a 123 will be around long after the 210 is swept up. -- John W Reames jream...@verizon.net Home: +14106646986 Mobile: +14437915905 On Jun 6, 2013, at 9:56, Michael Canfield slozuk...@gmail.com wrote: Tell her that no matter how much cash you spend there is no guarantee that even a brand new car will be more reliable. Just fix the E and call it a day. She'll quit whining when you buy her nice things with the car payment money...lol Mikd On Jun 6, 2013 1:45 AM, clay redgh...@comcast.net wrote: At the moment I am doing battle with SWMBA over the replacement for the E300. I would prefer it just get fixed and life go on, but she has a bug up her ... bonnet, that a more reliable car be found. These fit my taste. What should I be aware of, and which should be avoided? clay http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/cto/3844133766.html http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/cto/3785410731.html http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/cto/3825744594.html http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/cto/3836775453.html http://seattle.craigslist.org/tac/cto/3838172819.html http://seattle.craigslist.org/est/cto/3840018790.html http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/cto/3784349504.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Somewhere I saw a video of a border collie (attempting to) herd (farm) cats. If only I were possessed of that degree of patience in the face of such a hopeless task. -- John W Reames jream...@verizon.net Home: +14106646986 Mobile: +14437915905 On Jun 6, 2013, at 11:19, Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: Get the car with the border collie. They are great dogs! I grew up with one in NYC that treated humans as sheep and tried to herd them. This involved rooting under ladies' dresses with his snout. Screams ensured, but not much hilarity except from me. On Thu, Jun 6, 2013 at 1:45 AM, clay redgh...@comcast.net wrote: At the moment I am doing battle with SWMBA over the replacement for the E300. I would prefer it just get fixed and life go on, but she has a bug up her ... bonnet, that a more reliable car be found. These fit my taste. What should I be aware of, and which should be avoided? clay http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/cto/3844133766.html http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/cto/3785410731.html http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/cto/3825744594.html http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/cto/3836775453.html http://seattle.craigslist.org/tac/cto/3838172819.html http://seattle.craigslist.org/est/cto/3840018790.html http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/cto/3784349504.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Chris wrote: Out of state (IL)... That is a fairly new dealership. They seem to also run a parts network of somesort. I used to see delivery van/truck with a website name that I forget, but connected to the dealer there in St Charles. Are you in IL? mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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No, I'm in NC. Yes, just over 2 years old...very nice! On 6/6/2013 6:18 PM, Mountain Man wrote: Chris wrote: Out of state (IL)... That is a fairly new dealership. They seem to also run a parts network of somesort. I used to see delivery van/truck with a website name that I forget, but connected to the dealer there in St Charles. Are you in IL? mao -- Chris J. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
