Re: [MBZ] Reworked Web Site
Dan wrote:
Take a look at my work in progress web site at www.meuxette.com
Constructive comments and criticism are welcome.
Okay... Fair warning - I'm opinionated and blunt. Please don't
take it personal. *smiles*
The image is a png. I like png files - but for photos they are
large files. 516K for a 700x400 px image. Saved as a very high
quality jpeg, it is less than 90K. And it still looks okay for
this application compressed to 30K. It even appears to have been a
jpeg, as I can see jpeg compression artifacts.
Smaller size with no perceivable quality loss is always good - even
if you don't notice or care about the smaller size.
But that's about all I can comment on as the link to apple is the
only link on the page.
Oh. I see. Looking at the source, I see the navigation is
javascript only. *grumble*
{waits for page to reload after allowing javascript)
Seems you are using javascript for plain HTML-type links. More
data to download = slower = more data used. But no functional
benefit that I can see. Is there a reason you are doing simple
page linking with javascript?
Although the menu is text, the text doesn't change color to
indicate which links I have already visited nor is the text
underlined and colored blue like a link should be.
The Welcome menu item is a link to the home page - where I
already am. I would find it would be helpful if it were dead
text.
The contrast between the dark gray you are here and the light gray
you could go here isn't enough. I have to look closely to see
which is which.
You are using pixel, not em, or percent for size - which is far
less adaptable for different browsers, screens, and font sizes.
Cars section
I like the photo for the car ID. The chassis code could be handy
(S123, W124, etc)
Is there an order to the cars? Manufactured year? Ownership order?
I found two pages that the page title is Text.
http://www.meuxette.com/meuxette.com/1979_300TD.html
http://www.meuxette.com/meuxette.com/1991_300E.html
Photos section
Basic navigation is broken, replaced by a javascript kludge. I
really, really, really, dislike any website that forces me to
navigate _only_ the one way the developer decided to use. If I
were just a visitor to your site, I would give up and leave (at
least the photos section) because of how the navigation _STINKS_.
The javascript prevents me browsing my way. Examples: Can't opening
a photo in a new tab. The back button doesn't work. copy image
location doesn't. And after all that, the big picture that
(sometimes) eventually shows isn't very big.
So - in summary.
+ The layout is clean and uncluttered.
- Contrast between the text and the white background is a bit low.
+ The pages are pleasantly free of junk, blinking text, wild
colors, excessive links.
- The front page photos could easily be a jpeg and be smaller.
- Javascript required for simple navigation
- The big photos are so small I have no incentive to put up with
the dreadful photo album javascript nav.
If I were a visitor (and not reviewing at your request), I would
not have ever gotten past the first page (since it required
javascript) unless I had some insider scoop that there was
something worth digging for. Once in, the cars section is okay.
But the only reason I would endure the photos page is if I were
_really_ desperately - say, looking for a (rare) photo.
And that is _my_ opinion. :)
-- Philip
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Re: [MBZ] Reworked Web Site
Thanks, Philip!
All good points and well taken.
While iWeb is far front FrontPage, it still does a lot of kludgy stuff, I'll
admit.
I am looking at a couple of current HTML editors that do a much better job,
with which I will redraft the web site, keeping a lot of the points you made in
mind.
Dan
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On Aug 18, 2014, at 2:42 AM, Fmiser via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
Dan wrote:
Take a look at my work in progress web site at www.meuxette.com
Constructive comments and criticism are welcome.
Okay... Fair warning - I'm opinionated and blunt. Please don't
take it personal. *smiles*
The image is a png. I like png files - but for photos they are
large files. 516K for a 700x400 px image. Saved as a very high
quality jpeg, it is less than 90K. And it still looks okay for
this application compressed to 30K. It even appears to have been a
jpeg, as I can see jpeg compression artifacts.
Smaller size with no perceivable quality loss is always good - even
if you don't notice or care about the smaller size.
But that's about all I can comment on as the link to apple is the
only link on the page.
Oh. I see. Looking at the source, I see the navigation is
javascript only. *grumble*
{waits for page to reload after allowing javascript)
Seems you are using javascript for plain HTML-type links. More
data to download = slower = more data used. But no functional
benefit that I can see. Is there a reason you are doing simple
page linking with javascript?
Although the menu is text, the text doesn't change color to
indicate which links I have already visited nor is the text
underlined and colored blue like a link should be.
The Welcome menu item is a link to the home page - where I
already am. I would find it would be helpful if it were dead
text.
The contrast between the dark gray you are here and the light gray
you could go here isn't enough. I have to look closely to see
which is which.
You are using pixel, not em, or percent for size - which is far
less adaptable for different browsers, screens, and font sizes.
Cars section
I like the photo for the car ID. The chassis code could be handy
(S123, W124, etc)
Is there an order to the cars? Manufactured year? Ownership order?
I found two pages that the page title is Text.
http://www.meuxette.com/meuxette.com/1979_300TD.html
http://www.meuxette.com/meuxette.com/1991_300E.html
Photos section
Basic navigation is broken, replaced by a javascript kludge. I
really, really, really, dislike any website that forces me to
navigate _only_ the one way the developer decided to use. If I
were just a visitor to your site, I would give up and leave (at
least the photos section) because of how the navigation _STINKS_.
The javascript prevents me browsing my way. Examples: Can't opening
a photo in a new tab. The back button doesn't work. copy image
location doesn't. And after all that, the big picture that
(sometimes) eventually shows isn't very big.
So - in summary.
+ The layout is clean and uncluttered.
- Contrast between the text and the white background is a bit low.
+ The pages are pleasantly free of junk, blinking text, wild
colors, excessive links.
- The front page photos could easily be a jpeg and be smaller.
- Javascript required for simple navigation
- The big photos are so small I have no incentive to put up with
the dreadful photo album javascript nav.
If I were a visitor (and not reviewing at your request), I would
not have ever gotten past the first page (since it required
javascript) unless I had some insider scoop that there was
something worth digging for. Once in, the cars section is okay.
But the only reason I would endure the photos page is if I were
_really_ desperately - say, looking for a (rare) photo.
And that is _my_ opinion. :)
-- Philip
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Re: [MBZ] Reworked Web Site
Fmiser via Mercedes wrote: If I were a visitor (and not reviewing at your request), I would not have ever gotten past the first page (since it required javascript) unless I had some insider scoop that there was something worth digging for. Once in, the cars section is okay. But the only reason I would endure the photos page is if I were _really_ desperately - say, looking for a (rare) photo. What really frosts me is when a home page has nothing on it but a flash object. I might assume there was navigation to the rest of the site embedded in the flash, but since I don't open the flash I'll never know for sure. That's a guaranteed ctrl-w for me. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Reworked Web Site
On Mon, Aug 18, 2014 at 7:51 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I am looking at a couple of current HTML editors that do a much better job, with which I will redraft the web site, keeping a lot of the points you made in mind. To echo Philip, I can't view the site at work on Chrome/FF because our (admittedly aggressive) firewall is blocking the external JS downloads. If the JS was inlined it would work, though of course that costs caching for everyone else. The best way would be to use a static image as a link, IMO. Oddly, IE at work doesn't even take the initial forward. Not sure if that's unique to the firewall or IE, as I don't use IE anywhere else. Overall, what is the goal of the site? To serve as a picture sharing repository for friends and family? As a work log on the cars, like Jim does? A placeholder so the e-mail server isn't so lonely? Or...? If you are taking requests, I would love to see a graphical Mercedes Martha tutorial, with pictures of the steps and setup in between. It is so hard to get my forced labor - I mean, children - to read how to do a job properly. :) Best, Tim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Reworked Web Site
Detailing DIYs are in the works. I gotta get my hosting sorted out first. And find a decent web editor. Thanks! Dan On Aug 18, 2014, at 9:03 AM, Tim Crone bb...@crone.us wrote: On Mon, Aug 18, 2014 at 7:51 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I am looking at a couple of current HTML editors that do a much better job, with which I will redraft the web site, keeping a lot of the points you made in mind. To echo Philip, I can't view the site at work on Chrome/FF because our (admittedly aggressive) firewall is blocking the external JS downloads. If the JS was inlined it would work, though of course that costs caching for everyone else. The best way would be to use a static image as a link, IMO. Oddly, IE at work doesn't even take the initial forward. Not sure if that's unique to the firewall or IE, as I don't use IE anywhere else. Overall, what is the goal of the site? To serve as a picture sharing repository for friends and family? As a work log on the cars, like Jim does? A placeholder so the e-mail server isn't so lonely? Or...? If you are taking requests, I would love to see a graphical Mercedes Martha tutorial, with pictures of the steps and setup in between. It is so hard to get my forced labor - I mean, children - to read how to do a job properly. :) Best, Tim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Reworked Web Site
...And find a decent web editor. There's a lot to be said for NON-wysiwyg, aka wisiwiw, using something like emacs. The learning curve is a bit steeper, but there are no surprises and you're in complete control of everything. A browser refresh is fast, and that's all you need to see if a change came out right or not. (I do it locally, before publishing the page(s) to the server. My publication step is a script that ftp's all changed files to the server, automatically.) You can lay out a few dummy pages using a tool whose output you like, then view the source to see what is going on and model your edits after that. It's surprising how messy the output of such tools can be. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Reworked Web Site
I agree. In the past I've used a tool for things that are a little complicated like tables but then clean up the code by hand. Especially lately they all want to insert style sheets and other schmegma... -Curt From: Jim Cathey via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Dan Penoff dpen...@mac.com; Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, August 18, 2014 11:09 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Reworked Web Site ...And find a decent web editor. There's a lot to be said for NON-wysiwyg, aka wisiwiw, using something like emacs. The learning curve is a bit steeper, but there are no surprises and you're in complete control of everything. A browser refresh is fast, and that's all you need to see if a change came out right or not. (I do it locally, before publishing the page(s) to the server. My publication step is a script that ftp's all changed files to the server, automatically.) You can lay out a few dummy pages using a tool whose output you like, then view the source to see what is going on and model your edits after that. It's surprising how messy the output of such tools can be. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Reworked Web Site
I agree. In the past I've used a tool for things that are a little complicated like tables but then clean up the code by hand. Especially lately they all want to insert style sheets and other schmegma... I learned the editor in the early 80's, and HTML 1.0 in the 90's, and I haven't had any obsolescence problems since. Sure, my pages aren't fancy, but I don't _need_ fancy. I need what I have, which is fifteen years (now) of date-indexed searchable logs (I use grep and/or emacs for searches) and no tool obsolescence. I could have used plain text, but the HTML formatting is a lot nicer, and links are just plain nice to have. I've added tables from later HTML, but I don't think I'm using much else from newer specs. Maybe a few character encodings. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Reworked Web Site
I was looking at your site today, read through some of the early history of the Chicken Wagon, hard to believe that was all the way back in 2007... -Curt From: Jim Cathey via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, August 18, 2014 11:58 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Reworked Web Site I agree. In the past I've used a tool for things that are a little complicated like tables but then clean up the code by hand. Especially lately they all want to insert style sheets and other schmegma... I learned the editor in the early 80's, and HTML 1.0 in the 90's, and I haven't had any obsolescence problems since. Sure, my pages aren't fancy, but I don't _need_ fancy. I need what I have, which is fifteen years (now) of date-indexed searchable logs (I use grep and/or emacs for searches) and no tool obsolescence. I could have used plain text, but the HTML formatting is a lot nicer, and links are just plain nice to have. I've added tables from later HTML, but I don't think I'm using much else from newer specs. Maybe a few character encodings. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Reworked Web Site
On Mon, 18 Aug 2014 08:09:40 -0700 Jim Cathey via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: ...And find a decent web editor. There's a lot to be said for NON-wysiwyg, aka wisiwiw, using something like emacs. The learning curve is a bit steeper, but there are no surprises and you're in complete control of everything. A browser refresh is fast, and that's all you need to see if a change came out right or not. All my web pages have been created with vi. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Reworked Web Site
I was looking at your site today, read through some of the early history of the Chicken Wagon, hard to believe that was all the way back in 2007... The log may have started in 2007, but the CW itself is maybe 2002. That one picture of my son, born in 2001, in back in the baby bucket tells that story. The logs themselves didn't really get going until 2004. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Reworked Web Site
Jim wrote: There's a lot to be said for NON-wysiwyg, aka wisiwiw, using something like emacs. The learning curve is a bit steeper, but there are no surprises and you're in complete control of everything. A browser refresh is fast, and that's all you need to see if a change came out right or not. You can lay out a few dummy pages using a tool whose output you like, then view the source to see what is going on and model your edits after that. It's surprising how messy the output of such tools can be. I use emacs. But I have found bluefish and html-kit to be helpful because the tag names are all listed conveniently. You still write markup - but with a crutch. *smiles* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Reworked Web Site
I've been using a free downloadable HTML editor called KompoZer. For a johnny-come-lately like me it works pretty well. Scott -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Fmiser via Mercedes Sent: Monday, August 18, 2014 9:24 PM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Reworked Web Site Jim wrote: There's a lot to be said for NON-wysiwyg, aka wisiwiw, using something like emacs. The learning curve is a bit steeper, but there are no surprises and you're in complete control of everything. A browser refresh is fast, and that's all you need to see if a change came out right or not. You can lay out a few dummy pages using a tool whose output you like, then view the source to see what is going on and model your edits after that. It's surprising how messy the output of such tools can be. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Reworked Web Site
How doe siweb work --R On 8/17/14 11:38 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: Take a look at my work in progress web site at www.meuxette.com The wife is away for a few days with her Mom, so I finally found some time to get this sorted out. I'll be adding to it over the next few days until my domain transfer takes place. Constructive comments and criticism are welcome. Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Reworked Web Site
iWeb works OK, although it's dated and no longer supported. I'm just lazy in that I don't want to mess with coding and just want a simple WYSIWYG interface and something that will manage the site easily, which it does. If anyone knows of a decent Mac based WYSIWYG web editor I would like to hear it. Face it, I'm lazy. I just want to drag and drop and type in some text and move on. I don't care about all the fancy garbage. Dan On Aug 17, 2014, at 12:02 PM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: How doe siweb work --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Reworked Web Site
I was trying to learn Wordpress and Joomla but it is all too complicated to just jump into. I had that MS web site program, whatever it is called, and it was pretty much like using a word processor with the links thrown it. Quite simple. --R On 8/17/14 12:07 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: iWeb works OK, although it's dated and no longer supported. I'm just lazy in that I don't want to mess with coding and just want a simple WYSIWYG interface and something that will manage the site easily, which it does. If anyone knows of a decent Mac based WYSIWYG web editor I would like to hear it. Face it, I'm lazy. I just want to drag and drop and type in some text and move on. I don't care about all the fancy garbage. Dan On Aug 17, 2014, at 12:02 PM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: How doe siweb work --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Reworked Web Site
Front Page??? On Sun, Aug 17, 2014 at 11:13 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I was trying to learn Wordpress and Joomla but it is all too complicated to just jump into. I had that MS web site program, whatever it is called, and it was pretty much like using a word processor with the links thrown it. Quite simple. --R -- OK Don NSA: The only branch of government that actually listens to US citizens! There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence for themselves. WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers* 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Reworked Web Site (dumb question)
Dumb question: Why does it redirect to another page? Server to workstation? Gerry On 8/17/2014 11:38 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: Take a look at my work in progress web site at www.meuxette.com The wife is away for a few days with her Mom, so I finally found some time to get this sorted out. I'll be adding to it over the next few days until my domain transfer takes place. Constructive comments and criticism are welcome. Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Reworked Web Site (dumb question)
Beats me. iWeb has always done this when you use it to handle the FTP part of the file management. I find it irritating at best, and will probably just dump everything and use Fetch to make everything right once I get things sorted out. Dan On Aug 17, 2014, at 12:47 PM, Archer75--- via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Dumb question: Why does it redirect to another page? Server to workstation? Gerry ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Reworked Web Site
On Sun, Aug 17, 2014 at 10:38 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Constructive comments and criticism are welcome. Loads a little slow here, but looks okeh other than that... ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Reworked Web Site
I was using one back in my full time Linux days but can't remember what it was called. I'll dig around and see if I can find a copy, they had a Windows version, probably had Mac too. Curt From: Rich Thomas via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Dan Penoff dpen...@mac.com; Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, August 17, 2014 12:13 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Reworked Web Site I was trying to learn Wordpress and Joomla but it is all too complicated to just jump into. I had that MS web site program, whatever it is called, and it was pretty much like using a word processor with the links thrown it. Quite simple. --R On 8/17/14 12:07 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: iWeb works OK, although it's dated and no longer supported. I'm just lazy in that I don't want to mess with coding and just want a simple WYSIWYG interface and something that will manage the site easily, which it does. If anyone knows of a decent Mac based WYSIWYG web editor I would like to hear it. Face it, I'm lazy. I just want to drag and drop and type in some text and move on. I don't care about all the fancy garbage. Dan On Aug 17, 2014, at 12:02 PM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: How doe siweb work --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Reworked Web Site
where's the picture of us at derby lane? On Sun, Aug 17, 2014 at 11:38 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Take a look at my work in progress web site at www.meuxette.com The wife is away for a few days with her Mom, so I finally found some time to get this sorted out. I'll be adding to it over the next few days until my domain transfer takes place. Constructive comments and criticism are welcome. Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars* *www.BuyEUROparts.com http://www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Reworked Web Site
Still looking for it. I think the cart may have eaten it. Or a mØØse, possibly? Dan going back out to finish the lawn On Aug 17, 2014, at 7:30 PM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote: where's the picture of us at derby lane? On Sun, Aug 17, 2014 at 11:38 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Take a look at my work in progress web site at www.meuxette.com The wife is away for a few days with her Mom, so I finally found some time to get this sorted out. I'll be adding to it over the next few days until my domain transfer takes place. Constructive comments and criticism are welcome. Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. -- reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars www.BuyEUROparts.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Reworked Web Site
derby lane. next week. feel the pressure On Sun, Aug 17, 2014 at 7:46 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Still looking for it. I think the cart may have eaten it. Or a mØØse, possibly? Dan going back out to finish the lawn On Aug 17, 2014, at 7:30 PM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote: where's the picture of us at derby lane? On Sun, Aug 17, 2014 at 11:38 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Take a look at my work in progress web site at www.meuxette.com The wife is away for a few days with her Mom, so I finally found some time to get this sorted out. I'll be adding to it over the next few days until my domain transfer takes place. Constructive comments and criticism are welcome. Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. -- reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars www.BuyEUROparts.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars* *www.BuyEUROparts.com http://www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
