Re: [MBZ] Trip Preparation includes buying a few dogs

2012-11-16 Thread Jon Agne
OKI'm salivating in Ohio!


On Nov 16, 2012, at 1:09 AM, Benz Hogs wrote:

 Amen to watching them cut the Russet potatoes into fries, then frying them 
 fresh for me to devour.  Oooo la la.
 
 
 Luther   KB5QHUForest Park, IL
 '98 ML320 Max (158,xxx mi)
 
 On 11/15/2012 6:41 PM, Mountain Man wrote:
 Hendrik wrote:
 Hendrik
 
 The fries with the double dog are the delight, plus the experience
 watching the process of preparation, waiting in line any time of day.
 mao
 
 
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Re: [MBZ] Trip Preparation includes buying a few dogs

2012-11-16 Thread Randy Bennell

On 16/11/2012 12:09 AM, Benz Hogs wrote:
Amen to watching them cut the Russet potatoes into fries, then frying 
them fresh for me to devour.  Oooo la la.



Luther   KB5QHUForest Park, IL
'98 ML320 Max (158,xxx mi)



I had friends who ran a restaurant for 20 years. They did their own 
fries  but they were cut and then partly fried and then put aside so 
that they could be finished quickly.
They said it not only made production of larger quantities quick but 
also made them taste better than if they were cooked all at one time.


Randy

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Re: [MBZ] Trip Preparation includes buying a few dogs

2012-11-15 Thread Mountain Man
Hendrik wrote:
 Hendrik

The fries with the double dog are the delight, plus the experience
watching the process of preparation, waiting in line any time of day.
mao

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Re: [MBZ] Trip Preparation includes buying a few dogs with chips

2012-11-15 Thread Hendrik Fay
Yeah, forgot about the fries, although we had some problems with 
translations, couple of times we ordered chips and actually got chips on 
the side.


Hendrik
who eats both chips and chips

On 16/11/12 13:11, Mountain Man wrote:
mao 




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Re: [MBZ] Trip Preparation includes buying a few dogs

2012-11-15 Thread Benz Hogs
Amen to watching them cut the Russet potatoes into fries, then frying 
them fresh for me to devour.  Oooo la la.



Luther   KB5QHUForest Park, IL
'98 ML320 Max (158,xxx mi)

On 11/15/2012 6:41 PM, Mountain Man wrote:

Hendrik wrote:

Hendrik


The fries with the double dog are the delight, plus the experience
watching the process of preparation, waiting in line any time of day.
mao



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Re: [MBZ] Trip Preparation includes buying a few dogs

2012-11-14 Thread Hendrik Fay

Yeah great hot dogs but you need at least three to feed a man.

Hendrik
who is now lusting after a genuine Chicago hot dog

On 14/11/12 20:44, Hendrik  Fay wrote:
The Aussies loved Gene  Jude's and would recommend the place to any 
visitor - domestic or international - who is visiting Chi Town.


Thanks for the experience Mao.





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Re: [MBZ] Trip Preparation

2012-11-13 Thread Mitch Haley

Fmiser wrote:


--Philip, who wishes he could drive for two days on a tank
  of fuel in any of his cars.


When I bought my W116 I had thoughts of making a pair of fiberglass tanks to put 
in the areas behind the rear tires, Jaguar style.


I figured 60 gallons for the three tanks would be possible.
1500 mile range in a 300SD. I could fill up on homemade BioD, drive to Orlando, 
and start buying #2 in Georgia on the way home to Michigan.


BTW, whoever is tracking locations, I'm at 49076 zip code.
Exits 48, 51, and 57 on I-69 are all about 6-8 miles from my new house.

My new, new house (the one I haven't started building yet) is 1/8 mile from exit 
51. Those 3 acres would be a good place to leave an extra car or trailer for a 
few days while vacationing in Michigan. Call or text to 269-248-tenforty.


Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] Trip Preparation

2012-11-13 Thread Curt Raymond
I have my doubts about this, big trucks with fuel heaters still get shut off 
from time to time. It would seem very short sighted to assume otherwise...

-Curt

Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2012 01:14:50 -0500
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That is very interesting, I wonder if that practice is common here as well?
-- 
Max Dillon
Charleston SC
'95 E300
'87 300TD

Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote:

Gotta watch out for the big truck stops in the winter.  Trucks now 
run fuel heaters, and use Summer #2D year round.  Last gel I had was 
maybe 8 years ago when a station I bought fuel at regularly changed 
hands, and switched to pumping summer fuel year round.  No signs, no 
notice.  Just SOL.  Next time I was through I asked why, and got the 
story, but no apologies.

Smaller stations that have a regular clientele of pickem ups, 
tractors ,and Dissel cars are safer in the winter.

only additives I use are biocide in summer, and occasional #1 or 
kerosene in the winter.

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Re: [MBZ] Trip Preparation

2012-11-13 Thread Randy Bennell

On 12/11/2012 7:18 PM, Mountain Man wrote:

Plus, we could meet again at the country's best hot dog
place like we did a couple years back when Whomever from Tucson came
through.

Whomever - That is Bob Rentro of Tucson.
Also RickK is in the area.
We could almost have a ChiTownChowdaQ style meetup but with Chicago
style hot dogs... if you have time and want to visit face to face...
mao

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You should be going for Chicago style pizza rather than hotdogs.

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Re: [MBZ] Trip Preparation

2012-11-13 Thread Fmiser
   Dieselhead wrote:
  
   Trucks now  run fuel heaters, and use Summer #2D year
   round...

  Max wrote: 
 
  That is very interesting, I wonder if that practice is common
  here as well?

 Curt Raymond wrote:

 I have my doubts about this, big trucks with fuel heaters
 still get shut off from time to time. It would seem very short
 sighted to assume otherwise...

I'm not as close to the industry as I was, but effectively zero
trucks had dedicated heaters a bit over a decade ago.  All used
a return to the tank for the unused fuel pumped to the injector
pump, and that process heated the fuel a bit so a running truck
was less likely to have gelling fuel than a parked truck.

--Philip

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Re: [MBZ] Trip Preparation

2012-11-13 Thread Randy Bennell



I'm not as close to the industry as I was, but effectively zero
trucks had dedicated heaters a bit over a decade ago.  All used
a return to the tank for the unused fuel pumped to the injector
pump, and that process heated the fuel a bit so a running truck
was less likely to have gelling fuel than a parked truck.

--Philip

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So, apart from cold weather issues, is there any advantage to warming 
the fuel?

Normally, with gasoline engines, one wishes perhaps to cool the fuel.
Is there any issue with diesel apart from keeping it flowing?

Randy

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Re: [MBZ] Trip Preparation

2012-11-13 Thread Mountain Man
Luther wrote:
 If you
 do use Power service, use 1/2 of the recommended dose.

Thanks.
4 years ago I waxed solid from fuel from small local station.  The
rule now is truck stop and PS for winter - small insurance.
mao

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Re: [MBZ] Trip Preparation

2012-11-13 Thread Mountain Man
Jon wrote:
 Gene  Jude's..I think I may have been there maybe 3 or 4 lifetimes 
 agowhen I was 1st hired as an airline pilot.

We could do Col Mustards - I'm in for a drive.  Luther? Rick?
I am going to bet Gene  Judes is the place to be, if you can get your
wife to go along.  She needs to see the place - sell it that way.

Are you still airline pilot?  My son flies lear35 in ABQ air ambulance.
mao

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Re: [MBZ] Trip Preparation

2012-11-13 Thread Mountain Man
Randy wrote:
 You should be going for Chicago style pizza rather than hotdogs.

Yabbutt
That is less easy to define.
I would choose Lou Malnati, but others say otherwise.
Gene  Jude's is really an experience, plus...
mao

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Re: [MBZ] Trip Preparation

2012-11-13 Thread Rick Knoble
On Nov 13, 2012, at 8:17 PM, Mountain Man maontin@gmail.com wrote:

 You should be going for Chicago style pizza rather than hotdogs.
 
 Yabbutt
 That is less easy to define.
 I would choose Lou Malnati, but others say otherwise.
 Gene  Jude's is really an experience, plus...


Gino's East, Pizzeria UNO, ... 
When I worked at 14th  Roosevelt (Jefferson Street) I used to walk over and 
get Maxwell Street Polish sausage. The real deal. 

Rick
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Re: [MBZ] Trip Preparation

2012-11-13 Thread Rick Knoble
On Nov 13, 2012, at 7:47 PM, Mountain Man maontin@gmail.com wrote:

 We could do Col Mustards - I'm in for a drive.  Luther? Rick?


Sure. Let me know when. 

Rick
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Re: [MBZ] Trip Preparation

2012-11-13 Thread Jon Agne
Made it to NYC today after a late start.  May have to check the monovalve whenI 
get to Ohioit worked perfectly for a day and half after install, and now 
it's back to almost no heat at cruise. Argh!

Yes, still employed.  Based at ORD when 1st hirednow based JFKbefore 
that: Naval Aviator.

Let me see how this journey goes after 2 weeks..by that time it will 
literally be planes, trains and automobiles!

Best,

Jon


On Nov 13, 2012, at 8:47 PM, Mountain Man wrote:

 Jon wrote:
 Gene  Jude's..I think I may have been there maybe 3 or 4 lifetimes 
 agowhen I was 1st hired as an airline pilot.
 
 We could do Col Mustards - I'm in for a drive.  Luther? Rick?
 I am going to bet Gene  Judes is the place to be, if you can get your
 wife to go along.  She needs to see the place - sell it that way.
 
 Are you still airline pilot?  My son flies lear35 in ABQ air ambulance.
 mao
 
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Re: [MBZ] Trip Preparation

2012-11-12 Thread Curt Raymond
Why do you need fuel additive? If the car runs well just run it. Theres no 
problem with lubricating properties because the bulk of the IP is lubricated by 
engine oil unlike on some other diesel engines.

As an additive I'm pretty well sold on bio-diesel. Wish it was handier for me 
to get.

-Curt

Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2012 16:59:29 -0500
From: Jon Agne jonag...@gwi.net
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Subject: [MBZ] Trip Preparation
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Prepared yesterday for a 3000 mile trip to Ohio, Chicago, and return.

1.  Oil/filter change,
2.  Replaced leaky primer pump,
3.  Found failing fuel line from pre-filter to fuel pump: replaced,
4.  Installed new Governor Idle Adjust Pin,
5.  Cleaned banjo bolt to ALDA and replaced missing washers,
6. Replaced fuel filters.

I finally remembered to get some of those tiny o-rings that go on the shaft of 
the oil filter housing cap.  Good thing: as soon as I touched them with the 
pick, they both disintegrated in to about 3 pieces!  I guess I should get the 
o-rings for the fuel filter bolt next!

The new rack damper pin has made an incredible difference in the starting and 
idle.  I had the old one in as far as it would go.  Starting was a little 
rough, and the idle still wasn't as I like it.  The new pin was a tad longer 
and the spring tension was different:  I thought it was softer, but I cannot be 
sure of that.

Just need to pick up a bottle of fuel additive (i've been using Howes), and if 
anyone knows of better product (that I can get), I'd like to hear about it.

Cheers,

Jon

'85 300D 98k

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Re: [MBZ] Trip Preparation

2012-11-12 Thread Craig
On Mon, 12 Nov 2012 16:28:51 -0800 (PST) Curt Raymond
curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Why do you need fuel additive?

Probably for anti-gell in cold weather.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Trip Preparation

2012-11-12 Thread Mountain Man
Jon wrote:
 Just need to pick up a bottle of fuel additive (i've been using Howes), and 
 if anyone knows of better product (that I can get), I'd like to hear about it.


We Power Service fuel additive here outside Chicago so that we have
better chance of easy start in cold weather.  Farm  Fleet sells it
and also many of the truck stops sell it.  Maybe the other parts
houses sell it also.

Craig - I looked up gwi.net to see it is Maine.

Jon - If you spend any time here in Chicago area, both Luther and I
are in west suburbs and would love to put face to the name, if you
have time.  Plus, we could meet again at the country's best hot dog
place like we did a couple years back when Whomever from Tucson came
through.  It's been too long since I have had a Gene  Jude's double
dog with fries.  They really do make their reputation - best in the
land as pronounced at HuffPost a couple years ago.
mao

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Re: [MBZ] Trip Preparation

2012-11-12 Thread Mountain Man
 Plus, we could meet again at the country's best hot dog
 place like we did a couple years back when Whomever from Tucson came
 through.

Whomever - That is Bob Rentro of Tucson.
Also RickK is in the area.
We could almost have a ChiTownChowdaQ style meetup but with Chicago
style hot dogs... if you have time and want to visit face to face...
mao

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Re: [MBZ] Trip Preparation

2012-11-12 Thread Curt Raymond
Not if the fuel comes from a good station in the first place. I rarely ever add 
anything to my fuel. I've only had gelled fuel once and that was the tank that 
was in my '85 190D when I got it.

IIRC Jon lives in Brunswick, Maine which if anything is warmer than where I am 
in central MA as hes closer to the ocean.

-Curt

Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2012 17:58:47 -0700
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On Mon, 12 Nov 2012 16:28:51 -0800 (PST) Curt Raymond
curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Why do you need fuel additive?

Probably for anti-gell in cold weather.


Craig


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Re: [MBZ] Trip Preparation

2012-11-12 Thread Dieselhead
Not if the fuel comes from a good station in the first place. I 
rarely ever add anything to my fuel. I've only had gelled fuel once 
and that was the tank that was in my '85 190D when I got it.


IIRC Jon lives in Brunswick, Maine which if anything is warmer than 
where I am in central MA as hes closer to the ocean.


-Curt


Gotta watch out for the big truck stops in the winter.  Trucks now 
run fuel heaters, and use Summer #2D year round.  Last gel I had was 
maybe 8 years ago when a station I bought fuel at regularly changed 
hands, and switched to pumping summer fuel year round.  No signs, no 
notice.  Just SOL.  Next time I was through I asked why, and got the 
story, but no apologies.


Smaller stations that have a regular clientele of pickem ups, 
tractors ,and Dissel cars are safer in the winter.


only additives I use are biocide in summer, and occasional #1 or 
kerosene in the winter.


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Re: [MBZ] Trip Preparation

2012-11-12 Thread Benz Hogs

That was Bob from AZ.

I 2nd the Power Service, they make a great product. BUT, most pump 
diesel is protected down to -20F and spending that extra money isn't 
needed.  If you do use Power service, use 1/2 of the recommended dose. 
Also, MB diesels don't need additive, just good hard driving and Italian 
Tuneups.



Luther   KB5QHUForest Park, IL
'98 ML320 Max (158,xxx mi)

On 11/12/2012 5:02 PM, Mountain Man wrote:

Jon wrote:

Just need to pick up a bottle of fuel additive (i've been using Howes), and if 
anyone knows of better product (that I can get), I'd like to hear about it.



We Power Service fuel additive here outside Chicago so that we have
better chance of easy start in cold weather.  Farm  Fleet sells it
and also many of the truck stops sell it.  Maybe the other parts
houses sell it also.

Craig - I looked up gwi.net to see it is Maine.

Jon - If you spend any time here in Chicago area, both Luther and I
are in west suburbs and would love to put face to the name, if you
have time.  Plus, we could meet again at the country's best hot dog
place like we did a couple years back when Whomever from Tucson came
through.  It's been too long since I have had a Gene  Jude's double
dog with fries.  They really do make their reputation - best in the
land as pronounced at HuffPost a couple years ago.
mao



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Re: [MBZ] Trip Preparation

2012-11-12 Thread Jon Agne
Gene  Jude's..I think I may have been there maybe 3 or 4 lifetimes 
agowhen I was 1st hired as an airline pilot.  I'll be primarily downtown, 
Evanston (alma mater), and far north (Waukegan/Libertyville/Gurnee), and this 
would primarily be toward the end of the monthso we'll have to see how 
SWMBO is about extra side trips by then.  

I love a good hot dog stand...used to frequent Col. Mustard's Last Stand in 
Evanston.  Wonder if it is stiil there?




On Nov 12, 2012, at 8:02 PM, Mountain Man wrote:

 Jon wrote:
 Just need to pick up a bottle of fuel additive (i've been using Howes), and 
 if anyone knows of better product (that I can get), I'd like to hear about 
 it.
 
 
 We Power Service fuel additive here outside Chicago so that we have
 better chance of easy start in cold weather.  Farm  Fleet sells it
 and also many of the truck stops sell it.  Maybe the other parts
 houses sell it also.
 
 Craig - I looked up gwi.net to see it is Maine.
 
 Jon - If you spend any time here in Chicago area, both Luther and I
 are in west suburbs and would love to put face to the name, if you
 have time.  Plus, we could meet again at the country's best hot dog
 place like we did a couple years back when Whomever from Tucson came
 through.  It's been too long since I have had a Gene  Jude's double
 dog with fries.  They really do make their reputation - best in the
 land as pronounced at HuffPost a couple years ago.
 mao
 
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Re: [MBZ] Trip Preparation

2012-11-12 Thread Max Dillon
That is very interesting, I wonder if that practice is common here as well?
-- 
Max Dillon
Charleston SC
'95 E300
'87 300TD

Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote:

Gotta watch out for the big truck stops in the winter.  Trucks now 
run fuel heaters, and use Summer #2D year round.  Last gel I had was 
maybe 8 years ago when a station I bought fuel at regularly changed 
hands, and switched to pumping summer fuel year round.  No signs, no 
notice.  Just SOL.  Next time I was through I asked why, and got the 
story, but no apologies.

Smaller stations that have a regular clientele of pickem ups, 
tractors ,and Dissel cars are safer in the winter.

only additives I use are biocide in summer, and occasional #1 or 
kerosene in the winter.



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Re: [MBZ] Trip Preparation

2012-11-12 Thread Fmiser
  Curt wrote
 
  Why do you need fuel additive?

 Craig wrote:
 
 Probably for anti-gell in cold weather.

Shouldn't be necessary if the fuel is purchased in the same
season and region it's used.  

That is, don't expect fuel purchased in August (February in the
southern hemisphere) not to gel in February (August in the
southern hemisphere).  Also fuel purchased in south Texas might
gel in Chicago - but even a big truck with 300 gallons [1100
liters] won't have much fuel left by the time it drives that far.

--Philip, who wishes he could drive for two days on a tank
  of fuel in any of his cars.

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