Re: [MBZ] Turbo Care
Luther wrote: Where would you suggest buying a exhaust gas pyrometer? I just did a quick search, Auto Meter 2654, for example, seems to be running $130-140 at Jegs, egauges, and amazon. I'm not sure which probe that comes with. I got the same gauge a few years ago off eBay for about $80 with the clamp-on sensor kit. http://www.amazon.com/Auto-Meter-2654-Electric-Pyrometer/dp/B0009RUXI8/ http://www.egauges.com/vdo_mult3.asp?Type=PyrometerSeries=Z_SeriesUnits=E http://www.jegs.com/i/Auto%20Meter/105/2654/10002/-1?CT=999s_kwcid=auto%20meter%202654|2620567040 Right now, VDO Cockpit is way cheaper than Auto Meter Z-series, and matches the MBZ VDO gauges a bit better: (note that 310-953 includes the probe, don't buy a gauge without a probe) http://www.egauges.com/vdo_mult.asp?Type=PyrometerSeries=CockpitUnits=E ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Turbo Care
just change the oil and air filter. LarryT wrote: Hello All - Was reading the tech section at the MB Owners Club site and they talked about how different components have various life spans. They talked of a Turbo having a long life if properly maintained. Only problem is, I cannot find the maintenance requirements of a turbo. Any idea what they expect to be done - either by the owner or by a stealership technician to extend the life of a turbo? . Thanks! Sincerely, Larry T (74 911, 91 300D 2.5T) www.youroil.net Oil Analysis Kits Porsche Posters/Weber parts Test Results - http://members.rennlist.com/oil/ http://www.scamfreetop10.com/1233.html . ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 95 E300, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 91 300E, 89 560SEL, 89 300E, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D x2, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Turbo Care
I have found it to be good advice that after driving the car to let it idle for a few seconds to ensure that it gets sufficient oil and to keep the wastegate hose clean. Ben bd...@prodigy.net From: Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, February 8, 2009 6:02:10 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Turbo Care just change the oil and air filter. LarryT wrote: Hello All - Was reading the tech section at the MB Owners Club site and they talked about how different components have various life spans. They talked of a Turbo having a long life if properly maintained. Only problem is, I cannot find the maintenance requirements of a turbo. Any idea what they expect to be done - either by the owner or by a stealership technician to extend the life of a turbo? . Thanks! Sincerely, Larry T (74 911, 91 300D 2.5T) www.youroil.net Oil Analysis Kits Porsche Posters/Weber parts Test Results - http://members.rennlist.com/oil/ http://www.scamfreetop10.com/1233.html . ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 95 E300, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 91 300E, 89 560SEL, 89 300E, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D x2, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090208/44bdf454/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Turbo Care
Well if you were running it full out on the highway and whipped off real quick I would say so. But under normal conditions, even if you ran it full out on the highway and got off at an exit. By the time you got down the ramp, stopped at the light and got to where you are going the turbo has usually cooled off quite enough on its own. But, on the other hand, I guess overkill is OK as well. Ben wrote: I have found it to be good advice that after driving the car to let it idle for a few seconds to ensure that it gets sufficient oil and to keep the wastegate hose clean. Ben bd...@prodigy.net -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 95 E300, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 91 300E, 89 560SEL, 89 300E, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D x2, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Turbo Care
When driving a turbo, or any Diesel for that matter, it is best to drive sedately until it is fully warmed up (normal oil temp, not water temp) that is under 1/2, 2/3 or 3/4 throttle depending on how many cylinders you have. A 4 cyl MB is in the 2/3 to 3/4 range. and SDL is in the 1/2 throttle range. When coming down after a highway run, you should allow the engine and turbo to cool down with about 5 min of coasting, idling and/or sedate driving before shutting off the engine. This diminished the chances of cracks developing in the heads. That was a real problem with the OM621 engines. Finding 12 cracks in the head was not unusual in a car that was ridden hard and put up wet. (one from each valve to the prechamber, and one between the valves.) You can learn to control this also with an exhaust gas pyrometer. I used an oil temp gauge. It was a lot cheaper. That is my $.02 for turbo care and Diesel care in general. AFIK, the turbo in my 412k OM603 was original. But I always warmed it up, and cooled it down during my time, and I think the PO did too. Actually, it won't hurt your gassers any either. At 05:58 PM 2/8/2009, you wrote: Hello All - Was reading the tech section at the MB Owners Club site and they talked about how different components have various life spans. They talked of a Turbo having a long life if properly maintained. Only problem is, I cannot find the maintenance requirements of a turbo. Any idea what they expect to be done - either by the owner or by a stealership technician to extend the life of a turbo? . Thanks! Sincerely, Larry T (74 911, 91 300D 2.5T) www.youroil.net Oil Analysis Kits Porsche Posters/Weber parts Test Results - http://members.rennlist.com/oil/ http://www.scamfreetop10.com/1233.html . ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Turbo Care
And idle down before parking and shutting off. This actually means don't pull off the interstate into a rest stop and shut the car off instantly, almost every other circumstance I can think of involves some idle time before you actually park. This is much less of an issue for a diesel than for a gasser, as the exhaust is much cooler on the diesel off load. Peter On Feb 8, 2009, at 5:58 PM, LarryT wrote: Hello All - Was reading the tech section at the MB Owners Club site and they talked about how different components have various life spans. They talked of a Turbo having a long life if properly maintained. Only problem is, I cannot find the maintenance requirements of a turbo. Any idea what they expect to be done - either by the owner or by a stealership technician to extend the life of a turbo? . Thanks! Sincerely, Larry T (74 911, 91 300D 2.5T) www.youroil.net Oil Analysis Kits Porsche Posters/Weber parts Test Results - http://members.rennlist.com/oil/ http://www.scamfreetop10.com/1233.html . ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Turbo Care
Where would you suggest buying a exhaust gas pyrometer? Luther Loren Faeth wrote: When driving a turbo, or any Diesel for that matter, it is best to drive sedately until it is fully warmed up (normal oil temp, not water temp) that is under 1/2, 2/3 or 3/4 throttle depending on how many cylinders you have. A 4 cyl MB is in the 2/3 to 3/4 range. and SDL is in the 1/2 throttle range. When coming down after a highway run, you should allow the engine and turbo to cool down with about 5 min of coasting, idling and/or sedate driving before shutting off the engine. This diminished the chances of cracks developing in the heads. That was a real problem with the OM621 engines. Finding 12 cracks in the head was not unusual in a car that was ridden hard and put up wet. (one from each valve to the prechamber, and one between the valves.) You can learn to control this also with an exhaust gas pyrometer. I used an oil temp gauge. It was a lot cheaper. That is my $.02 for turbo care and Diesel care in general. AFIK, the turbo in my 412k OM603 was original. But I always warmed it up, and cooled it down during my time, and I think the PO did too. Actually, it won't hurt your gassers any either. At 05:58 PM 2/8/2009, you wrote: Hello All - Was reading the tech section at the MB Owners Club site and they talked about how different components have various life spans. They talked of a Turbo having a long life if properly maintained. Only problem is, I cannot find the maintenance requirements of a turbo. Any idea what they expect to be done - either by the owner or by a stealership technician to extend the life of a turbo? . Thanks! Sincerely, Larry T (74 911, 91 300D 2.5T) www.youroil.net Oil Analysis Kits Porsche Posters/Weber parts Test Results - http://members.rennlist.com/oil/ http://www.scamfreetop10.com/1233.html -- Luther KB5QHUAlma, Ark '87 300SDL (281,xxx mi) '85 Ford F250 6.9 diesel (x59,xxx mi) BioBeast '82 300CD (183 kmi) '82 300D (74 kmi) getting donor engine-sold '85 300D (280,176) parts car sans engine The Accordion ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
