Re: [MBZ] W107/W108 electric window regulators/rails - maintenance?
Baby powder is a great lubricant that my mechanic used on my slow-moving SLC rear windows with great effect. Roll down the windows and dust liberally. On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 2:51 AM, David Bruckmann bruckma...@transcontinental.ca wrote: Thanks, I'll give the slide test a try. I'm not looking forward to ecavating the rear lifters in the SLC, and I certainly want to take care of any/all issues at once. In fact, while I'm in there perhaps I'll ditch the two-piece Klippans for more modern seat belts. Now I just need to find a toasted SL or SLC from whence to harvest the later one-piece units... D. Message: 6 Date: Sun, 17 May 2009 23:55:40 -0500 From: Loren Faeth lfa...@leadingchange.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] W107/W108 electric window regulators/rails - maintenance? To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: mailman.34.1242623236.10674.mercedes_okiebenz@okiebenz.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed The door regulators are pretty robust. Pull the panel. Snap clips at rear and bottom, screw in the armrest. then bunp up on the bottom of the door liner to get it loose. check to see that the guide on the front of the window is riding on the front slide correctly. check the rear guide. If you take out all 4 bolts holding the window to the regulator, you can slide the window up and down by hand to determine what is binding. If the windows slides freely, then check the regulator. look for worn teeth on the rack and the drive gear. Sunroof gleitpaste should work ok. I like moly gun grease, as it never hardens. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090522/d1f26f89/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W107/W108 electric window regulators/rails - maintenance?
Though baby powder will collect moisture and dirt. MB sunroof lube will not. Buy it from Rusty in the metal tin, it'll last you for a lifetime. I also use it to lube the gears in my 126 odometer after installing new gears. Luther andrew strasfogel wrote: Baby powder is a great lubricant that my mechanic used on my slow-moving SLC rear windows with great effect. Roll down the windows and dust liberally. -- Luther KB5QHUAlma, Ark '87 300SDL (281,xxx mi) '85 Ford F250 6.9 diesel (x59,xxx mi) BioBeast '82 300CD (183 kmi) '82 300D (74 kmi) getting donor engine-sold '85 300D (280,176) parts car sans engine The Accordion ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W107/W108 electric window regulators/rails - maintenance?
If you're a purist, OK. But you can't gloop it on - you have to remove the panels and apply it carefully, unlike the carefree baby powder dusting prescribed as a pragmatic solution. On Fri, May 22, 2009 at 6:43 PM, Luther benz-n-h...@gulseth.net wrote: Though baby powder will collect moisture and dirt. MB sunroof lube will not. Buy it from Rusty in the metal tin, it'll last you for a lifetime. I also use it to lube the gears in my 126 odometer after installing new gears. Luther andrew strasfogel wrote: Baby powder is a great lubricant that my mechanic used on my slow-moving SLC rear windows with great effect. Roll down the windows and dust liberally. -- Luther KB5QHUAlma, Ark '87 300SDL (281,xxx mi) '85 Ford F250 6.9 diesel (x59,xxx mi) BioBeast '82 300CD (183 kmi) '82 300D (74 kmi) getting donor engine-sold '85 300D (280,176) parts car sans engine The Accordion ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090522/3a3c524b/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W107/W108 electric window regulators/rails - maintenance?
Would graphite be an alternative to the baby powder that wouldn't absorb moisture? IIRC, removing those rear panels to access the rear widow mechanisms are not an easy job. Several trim pieces to be removed, after taking the rear seat completely out. On Fri, May 22, 2009 at 10:15 PM, andrew strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.comwrote: If you're a purist, OK. But you can't gloop it on - you have to remove the panels and apply it carefully, unlike the carefree baby powder dusting prescribed as a pragmatic solution. On Fri, May 22, 2009 at 6:43 PM, Luther benz-n-h...@gulseth.net wrote: Though baby powder will collect moisture and dirt. MB sunroof lube will not. -- OK Don Pair of W124 300D 2.5 Turbos -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090522/f45b0d3e/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W107/W108 electric window regulators/rails - maintenance?
Channel wear: that makes perfect sense. I'm afraid to ask what those cost... Let's hope they haven't fallen prey to the revisionist pricing that MB seems to be applying to some items lately... Peter Frederick wrote: Replace the window channels. They are worn and too large, allowing the window to cock in the channel. This will definitely hasten the death of the regulator, which is an absolute certainty anyway, they are REALLY flimsy. Some dry silicone lubricant in the channel will help, but not much. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W107/W108 electric window regulators/rails - maintenance?
Indeed, the door checks are quite massive. But I imagine that's fitting for the length and weight of the doors. And for the price, those damned regulators better be an improvement over the POS W108/W123 things. Incidentally, is it reasonable to conclude that 107 door hinge pins are not individually swappable (they must be pressed in there rather tightly) and that one would have to swap in a new hinge assembly, eg to deal with slackness... Jim Cathey wrote: The 107 regulators are not those POS things that everything else got. They look like nice items. Same with the door checks. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W107/W108 electric window regulators/rails - maintenance?
Thanks, I'll give the slide test a try. I'm not looking forward to ecavating the rear lifters in the SLC, and I certainly want to take care of any/all issues at once. In fact, while I'm in there perhaps I'll ditch the two-piece Klippans for more modern seat belts. Now I just need to find a toasted SL or SLC from whence to harvest the later one-piece units... D. Message: 6 Date: Sun, 17 May 2009 23:55:40 -0500 From: Loren Faeth lfa...@leadingchange.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] W107/W108 electric window regulators/rails - maintenance? To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: mailman.34.1242623236.10674.mercedes_okiebenz@okiebenz.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed The door regulators are pretty robust. Pull the panel. Snap clips at rear and bottom, screw in the armrest. then bunp up on the bottom of the door liner to get it loose. check to see that the guide on the front of the window is riding on the front slide correctly. check the rear guide. If you take out all 4 bolts holding the window to the regulator, you can slide the window up and down by hand to determine what is binding. If the windows slides freely, then check the regulator. look for worn teeth on the rack and the drive gear. Sunroof gleitpaste should work ok. I like moly gun grease, as it never hardens. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W107/W108 electric window regulators/rails - maintenance?
Replace the window channels. They are worn and too large, allowing the window to cock in the channel. This will definitely hasten the death of the regulator, which is an absolute certainty anyway, they are REALLY flimsy. Some dry silicone lubricant in the channel will help, but not much. Peter On May 17, 2009, at 7:24 PM, David Bruckmann wrote: Gang, Noticing that the electric windows are painfully slow, especially the rears on the SLC. I'm not using them because I'm worried about the effect on the motor/regulator gears. Are the vertical guide rails the place to dab a little lubricant, or is there something else that's likely to be binding? Is the MB sunroof slide paste the appropriate thing to use for this? It seems to work well on sunroofs! D. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W107/W108 electric window regulators/rails - maintenance?
This will definitely hasten the death of the regulator, which is an absolute certainty anyway, they are REALLY flimsy. The 107 regulators are not those POS things that everything else got. They look like nice items. Same with the door checks. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W107/W108 electric window regulators/rails - maintenance?
The door regulators are pretty robust. Pull the panel. Snap clips at rear and bottom, screw in the armrest. then bunp up on the bottom of the door liner to get it loose. check to see that the guide on the front of the window is riding on the front slide correctly. check the rear guide. If you take out all 4 bolts holding the window to the regulator, you can slide the window up and down by hand to determine what is binding. If the windows slides freely, then check the regulator. look for worn teeth on the rack and the drive gear. Sunroof gleitpaste should work ok. I like moly gun grease, as it never hardens. At 07:24 PM 5/17/2009, you wrote: Gang, Noticing that the electric windows are painfully slow, especially the rears on the SLC. I'm not using them because I'm worried about the effect on the motor/regulator gears. Are the vertical guide rails the place to dab a little lubricant, or is there something else that's likely to be binding? Is the MB sunroof slide paste the appropriate thing to use for this? It seems to work well on sunroofs! D. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
