Re: [MBZ] W124 vent light and bulb out warning light?
On Feb 16, 2008 6:07 PM, E M [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We're not required to us parking lights here, but I would often see them used in Italy. I've always been curious, just how long can you leave a parking light on, before it drains the battery to the point where it's a problem starting, or, it will start, but then you're asking the alt to work overtime to charge the depleted battery? Measure the amp draw of the parking lights across the fuse with a multiyard and divide into the amp-hour rating of your battery? The actual computation is left as an exercise for the student. ;) Alex Chamberlain '87 300D Turbo et al. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W124 vent light and multiyard question?
Except the US pint is 16 oz instead of 20 oz, probably so that tavern owners made more money selling pints back in the 1700s. Even the metric system isn't quite rational, being based on the distance between Paris and the North Pole. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W124 vent light and multiyard question?
Don't forget that Al Gore introduced the legislation to establish ARPANET, which evolved into the internet we know. Jump back 30 years Whether or not Colosus (sp?) was the first digital computer or not I don't know, as IBM was also doing quite a bit ot work in that vein in the 30's. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W124 vent light and multiyard question?
On 17/02/2008, Peter Frederick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Except the US pint is 16 oz instead of 20 oz, probably so that tavern owners made more money selling pints back in the 1700s. Even the metric system isn't quite rational, being based on the distance between Paris and the North Pole. Peter Where did you get that info on the metre and the North Pole? It was originally derived from the properties of natural objects, namely the circumference of the Earth and water. It was decided to measure the meridian from Barcelona to Dunkirk which was the longest segment almost fully over land within French territory. A prototype metre was then developed and used until the 60's when it was changed to a certain number of wavelengths of a particular frequency of light emitted by a certain element. Since 1983 the metre has been defined as the distance light travels in a given fraction of a second in a vacuum. It's much better than that gibberish of a system they tried to teach us in school. I never could grasp the Imperial system as it was too nonsensical to me, much like old British coinage! Still can't quite grasp that old money! What a silly system. Remember as well that the US was the first country to use a rationalised, decimal based currency system...how ironic that they're one of only three holdouts against the metric system..the other two being Liberia and Myanmar. (Burma) Zedic ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W124 vent light and multiyard question?
On Sun, 17 Feb 2008 13:20:58 -0500 Jeff Zedic [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Where did you get that info on the metre and the North Pole? It was originally derived from the properties of natural objects, namely the circumference of the Earth and water. http://www.sizes.com/units/meter.htm By the end of 1790 the [French] Academy had placed the matter in the hands of as illustrious a scientific commission as has ever existed: Lagrange, Laplace, Borda, Monge, and Condorcet. In their report to the Academy on March 19, 1791, the commission recommended scrapping the seconds pendulum. Instead, they suggested the new unit of length be one ten-millionth of the distance at sea level from the pole to the equator. Obviously it would be impossible to survey the distance between the North Pole and the equator, the whole 90°. No one had ever been to the North Pole. But if one could measure a significant piece of a meridian, the rest could be calculated. The two ends of the line to be measured had to be at sea level, and somewhere near the middle of the pole-to-equator quadrant. As it happens, there is only one such meridian on earth: from Dunkirk to Barcelona, which covers about a tenth of the distance from the pole to the equator. The distance lies almost entirely in France, which did not escape the French, nor indeed such impartial observers as Thomas Jefferson. The article follows with much history about the endeavor during the French revolution. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W124 vent light?
Ed, Does your 300E have a third brake light? The guy I bought my old 300TD from used a piece of electrical tape to cover the dash light insteasd of tracing the fault. It turned out to be the third brake light in the middle of the rear window. Zedic ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W124 vent light and bulb out warning light?
I thought the self diagnostic system checks all the circuits and only illuminates when the headlight are turned on. Doesn't. The warning only lights when it's _trying_ to turn on any given light and it won't. (And the ignition is on.) There's a memory for the brake and turn signal lights, IIRC. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W124 vent light?
One click past off to the left is the right side, two clicks left is the left side. Been that way since at least the 60's. Benz doesn't change things much -- I got a kick out of a friend who had a W210 and complained that the keyswitch wasn't illuminated like it was in his Ford -- until he looked in my old '72 W108 and realized that Benz has put the keyswitch in exactly the same place relative to the steering wheel since the mid '50s! No need to light it up, if you drive a Benz they are all in the same place. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W124 vent light?
Well I'll be, it works. lol. I also found the source of the light warning lamp in the dash going off, I think? Front right parking light is out, but the turn signal works. Are they different bulbs ? Keep in mind, I'm an idiot with all things electrical, but I did recently buy a nifty little multimeter. Ed 300E On 16/02/2008, Timothy Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: One click counter clockwise from OFF position is right parking, two clicks CCW is left. DUH! I was looking for the fuse until I realised those directional parking lamps only work when the ignition is OFF. From: E M [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Sat, 16 Feb 2008 01:11:08 -0500 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] W124 vent light? To be honest, I'm still trying to figure out how to turn those one. Is it one turn on the light switch to the left, and then use the turn signal stock to indicate the side you want to activate ? Ed 300E ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W124 vent light?
Dual filament bulbs. Replace both fronts, if one died the other won't be far behind. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W124 vent light?
will do, thanks. Ed 300E On 16/02/2008, Peter Frederick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dual filament bulbs. Replace both fronts, if one died the other won't be far behind. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W124 vent light?
Yeah but Rusty is in a little place called the US of America and I am in a big place called Oztralia. Those bulbs I usually pull out of wrecks but later model Mercs are a bit scarce at the self service wreckers. Might have to bite the bullet and sneak into the stealership. Man alive they want 65 ozbeans for a owners manual. At least the maintenance booklet was in the TE, complete with data card. Hendrik 89 300TE 85 190E 84 230E 81 U1300L LarryT wrote: Hi Hendrik, I bought 6 of the little bulbs from Rusty (when ordering other stuff) after looking at several FLAPS unsuccessfully. Also, some of the bulbs must be frosted as they will be way too bright if a non-frosted bulb is used. Larry T (66 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W124 vent light?
If like here, take your ownership to the dealer, and they'll give you a full printout of the service history performed by them. Nice to look back to see what was done, and what will possible soon need attention. Ed 300E On 16/02/2008, Hendrik Fay [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yeah but Rusty is in a little place called the US of America and I am in a big place called Oztralia. Those bulbs I usually pull out of wrecks but later model Mercs are a bit scarce at the self service wreckers. Might have to bite the bullet and sneak into the stealership. Man alive they want 65 ozbeans for a owners manual. At least the maintenance booklet was in the TE, complete with data card. Hendrik 89 300TE 85 190E 84 230E 81 U1300L LarryT wrote: Hi Hendrik, I bought 6 of the little bulbs from Rusty (when ordering other stuff) after looking at several FLAPS unsuccessfully. Also, some of the bulbs must be frosted as they will be way too bright if a non-frosted bulb is used. Larry T (66 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W124 vent light and ignition switch position
Just as a little bit of useless trivia, MB changed the position of the keyswitch on RHD cars in the 90's. In the 201 and 124's it was to the left of the steering wheel but the 202 and 210's onwards they put it to the right, which is how every other car is. Took a bit of getting used to when I bought my first Benz. Hendrik Peter Frederick wrote: One click past off to the left is the right side, two clicks left is the left side. Been that way since at least the 60's. Benz doesn't change things much -- I got a kick out of a friend who had a W210 and complained that the keyswitch wasn't illuminated like it was in his Ford -- until he looked in my old '72 W108 and realized that Benz has put the keyswitch in exactly the same place relative to the steering wheel since the mid '50s! No need to light it up, if you drive a Benz they are all in the same place. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W124 vent light and bulb out warning light?
OK, then why does the warning light illuminate when I turn the switch to headlights on (right turn), they are all working but the parker is not, which is turned on by switching to the left. Anyway I'll replace the parker lights and see where I am at. Hendrik Jim Cathey wrote: I thought the self diagnostic system checks all the circuits and only illuminates when the headlight are turned on. Doesn't. The warning only lights when it's _trying_ to turn on any given light and it won't. (And the ignition is on.) There's a memory for the brake and turn signal lights, IIRC. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W124 vent light and multiyard question?
Hmmnh, seeing that the US is an imperial measurement country (the only one left I think), why is a multimeter not called a multiyard over there? Hendrik always thinking E M wrote: Keep in mind, I'm an idiot with all things electrical, but I did recently buy a nifty little multimeter. Ed 300E ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W124 vent light and multiyard question?
I don't know, I'm not American. Probably multimeter as in multi-measuring device. There really isn't such a thing as multimeter, all meters are the same length, a meter in theory, unless measured in China, in which case, you're allowed to be off a couple of cm one way or the other and it's still considered a meter. ;-) Ed 300E On 16/02/2008, Hendrik Fay [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hmmnh, seeing that the US is an imperial measurement country (the only one left I think), why is a multimeter not called a multiyard over there? Hendrik always thinking E M wrote: Keep in mind, I'm an idiot with all things electrical, but I did recently buy a nifty little multimeter. Ed 300E ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W124 vent light and bulb out warning light?
OK, then why does the warning light illuminate when I turn the switch to headlights on (right turn), they are all working but the parker is not, which is turned on by switching to the left. Anyway I'll replace the parker lights and see where I am at. The nighttime parking light positions only work with the ignition off, in which case the illumination warning module is not operable. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W124 vent light and multiyard question?
Hmmnh, seeing that the US is an imperial measurement country (the only one left I think), why is a multimeter not called a multiyard over there? It's _a_ meter, not _the_ meter. Simple! Also, though we may have gallons they are not _imperial_ gallons, which are somewhat larger. The US is ahead of the game again, after all we are the home of the computer. The (now) US system of volume measurement is power-of-two, not -ten. (Ever notice how so many of the old measurements are doublings?) The machines seem to prefer the old units. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W124 vent light and multiyard question?
Power of two, is that system kinda like, buy two Big Mac's for the price of one? hee hee Ed 300E The US is ahead of the game again, after all we are the home of the computer. The (now) US system of volume measurement is power-of-two, not -ten. (Ever notice how so many of the old measurements are doublings?) The machines seem to prefer the old units. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W124 vent light and multiyard question?
I thought the first true computer was build by the British to break the enigma code. The enigma code being the forerunner of the internet but of course Al Gore was right there and built both things, then went on to invent global warming and is now further cashing in by making movies about global warming which explains how we can beat global warming by the little people tightening the belt. Hendrik who thinks Al should be elevated to super hero status Jim Cathey wrote: Hmmnh, seeing that the US is an imperial measurement country (the only one left I think), why is a multimeter not called a multiyard over there? It's _a_ meter, not _the_ meter. Simple! Also, though we may have gallons they are not _imperial_ gallons, which are somewhat larger. The US is ahead of the game again, after all we are the home of the computer. The (now) US system of volume measurement is power-of-two, not -ten. (Ever notice how so many of the old measurements are doublings?) The machines seem to prefer the old units. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W124 vent light?
I found a light out that illuminates the area around the light switch. When I removed the panel from around the light switch (it pops off by moving it toward the drivers' door) I found a burned out bulb. I don;t believe it had ever worked - but the Bad Bulb feature in the dash didn't tell me it was bad. I'm pretty sure that is only for exterior lights. Also, there;s a lightbulb in the gearshift to indicate what ger you;re in. \ Fixing those 2 gave me light I hadnt seen before ;-) Larry T (66 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs . - Original Message - From: E M [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2008 8:33 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] W124 vent light? Thanks Peter, Both side vent lights are fine, as are the lights on the window lifts. Think I'll tackle the centre vent first, then the headlight switch later. My understanding is, when the bulb out warning light goes on, it means there's a light out somewhere in the system, could be anyone. Does anyone have a quick check list of all the lights in a W124? There may be a couple missing that have been out since I got the car 7 or so months ago. All the obvious ones work, other than the ones I mentioned. Ed 300E On 14/02/2008, Peter Frederick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Those take one of those very small no-base type push-in lamps. To access the center vent, you need to unscrew the actuating lever from the roller - it's visible inside the vent, and take the out the screw exposed in the side when you open the glove box. The vent then pulls out from the passenger side. Bulb is in a tiny holder on the bottom, I seem to remember a trap door of some sort, so don't just yank. The bulb for the headlight switch can be accessed by pulling the knob off toward the rear, then unscrewing the bezel nut (24mm). The plate surrounding the switch will then come off to the rear and you can pull the little bulb holder out. Same bulb in all of them, including the shift quadrant (I need to replace all of mine). The ones for the side vents are more of a PITA, you have to pull all four little clips inward to release the vent and pull it out rearward. You can get to the bulb holder on the driver's side if you pull the cluster for any reason, and the one on the passenger side if you pull the glove box. Easier that getting the vents out! Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W124 vent light?
the Bad Bulb feature in the dash didn't tell me it was bad. I'm pretty sure that is only for exterior lights. It is. Only for those lights you can't see from your seat, the ones that can get you a ticket or even killed if broken. What, you want a light in the dash to tell you another light in the dash isn't working? :-) On a practical note, the wiring to the lamps is made considerably more complex and expensive if there is a bulb-out detector on it. And there's a _lot_ of dash lamps, nearly as many as the exteriors. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W124 vent light?
You need to check the marker lamps and the license plate lamps, especially for one that is dimmer than the rest. The module works by measuring current draw to the pairs of lamps -- if they don't pull the same amps, the warming light comes on. You may have to replace all the bulbs with matched ones, I had that problem in the Volvo. different manufacturer's bulbs don't pull the same amps/ however, it can still be a bad module. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W124 vent light?
Did ya check your parking lights, the little ones. I got a warning light in my 300TE and the only light that is not working is the drivers side parking. Hendrik E M wrote: The light comes on with I put the headlights on, but I don't see anything out, high beams, turn signals etc. I'll have to try the back up lights next time I'm near a large glass window at night, my usual way to test them. :-) Ed 300E ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W124 vent light and bulb out warning light?
I thought the self diagnostic system checks all the circuits and only illuminates when the headlight are turned on. Hendrik Jim Cathey wrote: The light comes on with I put the headlights on, but I don't see anything out, high beams, turn signals etc. I'll have to try the back up lights next time I'm near a large glass window at night, my usual way to test them. :-) It isn't them, it'd only go on when you shifted into reverse if so. It's the license plate marker lamp. One of two, usually. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W124 vent light?
Are those little bayonet bulbs easily available or are they an MB only item, they seem to be different to earlier models. Hendrik LarryT wrote: I found a light out that illuminates the area around the light switch. When I removed the panel from around the light switch (it pops off by moving it toward the drivers' door) I found a burned out bulb. I don;t believe it had ever worked - but the Bad Bulb feature in the dash didn't tell me it was bad. I'm pretty sure that is only for exterior lights. Also, there;s a lightbulb in the gearshift to indicate what ger you;re in. \ Fixing those 2 gave me light I hadnt seen before ;-) Larry T (66 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W124 vent light?
To be honest, I'm still trying to figure out how to turn those one. Is it one turn on the light switch to the left, and then use the turn signal stock to indicate the side you want to activate ? Ed 300E On 16/02/2008, Hendrik Fay [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Did ya check your parking lights, the little ones. I got a warning light in my 300TE and the only light that is not working is the drivers side parking. Hendrik E M wrote: The light comes on with I put the headlights on, but I don't see anything out, high beams, turn signals etc. I'll have to try the back up lights next time I'm near a large glass window at night, my usual way to test them. :-) Ed 300E ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W124 vent light?
One click counter clockwise from OFF position is right parking, two clicks CCW is left. DUH! I was looking for the fuse until I realised those directional parking lamps only work when the ignition is OFF. From: E M [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Sat, 16 Feb 2008 01:11:08 -0500 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] W124 vent light? To be honest, I'm still trying to figure out how to turn those one. Is it one turn on the light switch to the left, and then use the turn signal stock to indicate the side you want to activate ? Ed 300E ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W124 vent light?
Thanks Alex, sounds like more than a 10 minute job, so it will have to wait for the weekend. Just finished washing the car, and getting pretty good at drying it before the water freezes on it. lol. Having some problems with the vacuum door locks again. I'll write more once I figure out how to word it, but I have a feeling, my father is behind this great vacuum door lock mystery!! lol. Again, thanks for the tips Alex, I'm off to the garage now to make sure I have a 4.5mm hex, with an extension, and funny enough, I think I do. :-) Ed 300Eprettiest car on the street. :-) On 14/02/2008, Alex Chamberlain [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Feb 13, 2008 at 5:40 PM, E M [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The light on the centre air vent seems to be out on my car. Both vents on the right and left of the dash have back lights on the swivel part of the vent wheel, so I figure there's also one on the centre one? Ok, how do I get to it? :-) From memory, open the glovebox and there's a Philips screw on the left side (right side of the center vents). Remove that and you can take off the metal cover. Then shine a strong light into the vents and you'll see that the knob in the middle is connected to an arm that opens and closes a big flap right in front of the AC evaporator. Wave hi to the evaporator, this is the closest you'll get to it unless you take out the entire dashboard (20+ hour job per book!). The arm disconnects with a long 4.5mm hex driver. (I'm not making that size up, so far I haven't seen it anywhere else on a 124 or any other car). Then the whole vent assembly pulls right out. The lightbulb socket snaps into a little plastic panel. Pry it open with your fingernail. It'll probably break and need to taped back together after you change the bulb (available from Rusty). DISCONNECT THE BATTERY FIRST or you are guaranteed to short out the socket while fiddling with it, which will blow the special red fuse behind the instrument panel and shut off all the dash lights until you pull the panel out and swap the fuse. I learned the hard way. Also, should the knob for the headlights be back lit as well. If so, mine has never worked, but if it has one, might as well see to it while I'm doing the light bulb thing. :-) That one's a lot easier, just pull off the knob and there's a big nut behind holding the switch into the panel. Maybe you have to undo the panel right above your knees as well in order to get the switch out from the back---I forget. Either way, it's pretty obvious, no secrets or tricks, unlike the center vent---you should be able to figure it out. ;) Oh, they're both the same size bulb, used throughout the dash. Alex Chamberlain '87 300D Turbo ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W124 vent light?
On Wed, Feb 13, 2008 at 5:40 PM, E M [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The light on the centre air vent seems to be out on my car. Both vents on the right and left of the dash have back lights on the swivel part of the vent wheel, so I figure there's also one on the centre one? Ok, how do I get to it? :-) From memory, open the glovebox and there's a Philips screw on the left side (right side of the center vents). Remove that and you can take off the metal cover. Then shine a strong light into the vents and you'll see that the knob in the middle is connected to an arm that opens and closes a big flap right in front of the AC evaporator. Wave hi to the evaporator, this is the closest you'll get to it unless you take out the entire dashboard (20+ hour job per book!). The arm disconnects with a long 4.5mm hex driver. (I'm not making that size up, so far I haven't seen it anywhere else on a 124 or any other car). Then the whole vent assembly pulls right out. The lightbulb socket snaps into a little plastic panel. Pry it open with your fingernail. It'll probably break and need to taped back together after you change the bulb (available from Rusty). DISCONNECT THE BATTERY FIRST or you are guaranteed to short out the socket while fiddling with it, which will blow the special red fuse behind the instrument panel and shut off all the dash lights until you pull the panel out and swap the fuse. I learned the hard way. Also, should the knob for the headlights be back lit as well. If so, mine has never worked, but if it has one, might as well see to it while I'm doing the light bulb thing. :-) That one's a lot easier, just pull off the knob and there's a big nut behind holding the switch into the panel. Maybe you have to undo the panel right above your knees as well in order to get the switch out from the back---I forget. Either way, it's pretty obvious, no secrets or tricks, unlike the center vent---you should be able to figure it out. ;) Oh, they're both the same size bulb, used throughout the dash. Alex Chamberlain '87 300D Turbo ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W124 vent light?
Those take one of those very small no-base type push-in lamps. To access the center vent, you need to unscrew the actuating lever from the roller - it's visible inside the vent, and take the out the screw exposed in the side when you open the glove box. The vent then pulls out from the passenger side. Bulb is in a tiny holder on the bottom, I seem to remember a trap door of some sort, so don't just yank. The bulb for the headlight switch can be accessed by pulling the knob off toward the rear, then unscrewing the bezel nut (24mm). The plate surrounding the switch will then come off to the rear and you can pull the little bulb holder out. Same bulb in all of them, including the shift quadrant (I need to replace all of mine). The ones for the side vents are more of a PITA, you have to pull all four little clips inward to release the vent and pull it out rearward. You can get to the bulb holder on the driver's side if you pull the cluster for any reason, and the one on the passenger side if you pull the glove box. Easier that getting the vents out! Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W124 vent light?
Thanks Peter, Both side vent lights are fine, as are the lights on the window lifts. Think I'll tackle the centre vent first, then the headlight switch later. My understanding is, when the bulb out warning light goes on, it means there's a light out somewhere in the system, could be anyone. Does anyone have a quick check list of all the lights in a W124? There may be a couple missing that have been out since I got the car 7 or so months ago. All the obvious ones work, other than the ones I mentioned. Ed 300E On 14/02/2008, Peter Frederick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Those take one of those very small no-base type push-in lamps. To access the center vent, you need to unscrew the actuating lever from the roller - it's visible inside the vent, and take the out the screw exposed in the side when you open the glove box. The vent then pulls out from the passenger side. Bulb is in a tiny holder on the bottom, I seem to remember a trap door of some sort, so don't just yank. The bulb for the headlight switch can be accessed by pulling the knob off toward the rear, then unscrewing the bezel nut (24mm). The plate surrounding the switch will then come off to the rear and you can pull the little bulb holder out. Same bulb in all of them, including the shift quadrant (I need to replace all of mine). The ones for the side vents are more of a PITA, you have to pull all four little clips inward to release the vent and pull it out rearward. You can get to the bulb holder on the driver's side if you pull the cluster for any reason, and the one on the passenger side if you pull the glove box. Easier that getting the vents out! Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W124 vent light?
The lamp out system is only for headlamps, stop lamps, marker lamps, turn signal lamps, backup lamps, and license plate lamps. interior lamps are not in the circuit. When does the lamp come on? A failed lamp out box will light the the lamp all the time the ignition is on, whether or not a lamp is actually out. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W124 vent light?
The light comes on with I put the headlights on, but I don't see anything out, high beams, turn signals etc. I'll have to try the back up lights next time I'm near a large glass window at night, my usual way to test them. :-) Ed 300E On 14/02/2008, Peter Frederick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The lamp out system is only for headlamps, stop lamps, marker lamps, turn signal lamps, backup lamps, and license plate lamps. interior lamps are not in the circuit. When does the lamp come on? A failed lamp out box will light the the lamp all the time the ignition is on, whether or not a lamp is actually out. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W124 vent light?
The light comes on with I put the headlights on, but I don't see anything out, high beams, turn signals etc. I'll have to try the back up lights next time I'm near a large glass window at night, my usual way to test them. :-) It isn't them, it'd only go on when you shifted into reverse if so. It's the license plate marker lamp. One of two, usually. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W124 vent light?
Thanks Jim, I'll have a good look at them all tomorrow night. Ed 300E On 14/02/2008, Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The light comes on with I put the headlights on, but I don't see anything out, high beams, turn signals etc. I'll have to try the back up lights next time I'm near a large glass window at night, my usual way to test them. :-) It isn't them, it'd only go on when you shifted into reverse if so. It's the license plate marker lamp. One of two, usually. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
