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Yes, 116s are also excellent. Surprisingly good handling for a big car, especially in euro spec. I just pulled mine (300SD) out for the first time this year this morning. Great car. Jaime On Friday, April 24, 2015, Mitch Haley via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Rick Knoble via Mercedes wrote: I have heard (never owned one) that the 116 is incredible, ride wise. I have heard that you can hit potholes and RR tracks at speed, and nary know they were there. The suspension supposedly drops too, when you get over 80-85mph. Like Curly said, if the ride height changes, it must be a 6.9. My 116.120 (300SD) would gobble up RR tracks at 55mph with scarcely a quiver, the kind of tracks that slow SUV drivers to 10-15mph. I probably scared the crap out of some of them by passing them right before or after the tracks at a 40mph speed differential. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Jaime Kopchinski http://www.jaimekop.com/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Back to the w123...my 240D floats over speed bumps. No need to slow down like in other cars. Hahaha. Sent from my iPhone On Apr 24, 2015, at 9:51 AM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Rick Knoble via Mercedes wrote: I have heard (never owned one) that the 116 is incredible, ride wise. I have heard that you can hit potholes and RR tracks at speed, and nary know they were there. The suspension supposedly drops too, when you get over 80-85mph. Like Curly said, if the ride height changes, it must be a 6.9. My 116.120 (300SD) would gobble up RR tracks at 55mph with scarcely a quiver, the kind of tracks that slow SUV drivers to 10-15mph. I probably scared the crap out of some of them by passing them right before or after the tracks at a 40mph speed differential. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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my 123 240D rides much better after I put new Bilsteins on it, as does any MB i've ever driven. they were critical on 110/111. I could drive one of those and tell you if it had bilsteins or junk shocks without looking at the shocks. Not sure I could do that any more, but back in the day when 110/111 were on the road, I could. I had 100% accuracy then. I've driven a 116 and enjoyed it immensely. Much better than a 123 though maybe not as responsive as a 124/201. Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Well, I put a 116 sideways on an interstate doing about 75, and it stayed nice and stable until I got the skid under control... A lesser car would have tumbled. -MMM- On Thu, Apr 23, 2015 at 8:44 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Dimitri wrote : The W123 is, in my opinion, a smoother, nicer ride than a W124. I have heard (never owned one) that the 116 is incredible, ride wise. I have heard that you can hit potholes and RR tracks at speed, and nary know they were there. The suspension supposedly drops too, when you get over 80-85mph. Rick Sent from my BlackBerry Z10 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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I learned to drive in a W116 450SEL. When I needed a car I'd borrow it from my parents during high school. I then drove it on and off during college and pretty much adopted it thereafter. I must have clocked 100,000 miles on that car. Definitely a smooth riding car but not mushy like the American land yachts of the time. Sent from my iPhone On Apr 24, 2015, at 8:37 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I've driven a 116 and enjoyed it immensely. Much better than a 123 though maybe not as responsive as a 124/201. Curt Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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I've driven a 116 and enjoyed it immensely. Much better than a 123 though maybe not as responsive as a 124/201. Curt Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Rick Knoble via Mercedes wrote: I have heard (never owned one) that the 116 is incredible, ride wise. I have heard that you can hit potholes and RR tracks at speed, and nary know they were there. The suspension supposedly drops too, when you get over 80-85mph. Like Curly said, if the ride height changes, it must be a 6.9. My 116.120 (300SD) would gobble up RR tracks at 55mph with scarcely a quiver, the kind of tracks that slow SUV drivers to 10-15mph. I probably scared the crap out of some of them by passing them right before or after the tracks at a 40mph speed differential. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Is that what set you on a lifelong Mercedes path? Sent from my iPhone On Apr 24, 2015, at 10:42 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Back when I was in college, this would have been like 73 or 74, my buddy borrowed his dad's new Benz to go out riding around. I can't recall what it was, a 280 maybe? Anyway we were out driving in the semi-countryside on the edge of town and he is going like 60 or so down this road and the railroad tracks are up there a bit. These tracks were bad to go over, we all knew that. I tell him to slow down, he says no watch this (hey y'all! ho mah beer n watchiss!) and we fly over those tracks like they weren't even there. I was amazed. --R Similar experiences, along with good fuel economy, a HUGE trunk, sturdy body, red seats and a speedo that went up and down hooked me! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Back when I was in college, this would have been like 73 or 74, my buddy borrowed his dad's new Benz to go out riding around. I can't recall what it was, a 280 maybe? Anyway we were out driving in the semi-countryside on the edge of town and he is going like 60 or so down this road and the railroad tracks are up there a bit. These tracks were bad to go over, we all knew that. I tell him to slow down, he says no watch this (hey y'all! ho mah beer n watchiss!) and we fly over those tracks like they weren't even there. I was amazed. --R On 4/24/15 9:51 AM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes wrote: Rick Knoble via Mercedes wrote: I have heard (never owned one) that the 116 is incredible, ride wise. I have heard that you can hit potholes and RR tracks at speed, and nary know they were there. The suspension supposedly drops too, when you get over 80-85mph. Like Curly said, if the ride height changes, it must be a 6.9. My 116.120 (300SD) would gobble up RR tracks at 55mph with scarcely a quiver, the kind of tracks that slow SUV drivers to 10-15mph. I probably scared the crap out of some of them by passing them right before or after the tracks at a 40mph speed differential. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Actually the lifetime journey started in like '02 or so when one of my wife's patients, an Indy MB mechanic, was no longer able to drive so was selling his 300TD. He was basically broke, and she had some measure of pity on him, and the boychild needed a car for school commuting etc. so we bought the TD. It was a good choice -- solid, hard to get into trouble with a NA engine, and in fairly good shape. Paid too much for it I think, but it was for a reasonable cause. The ex-wife widow called me to see if I wanted a drum of engine oil he had in his little garage at his apartment when he passed a year or so later, was not particularly good oil (Shell something) and not diesel oil, so I passed on that. I guess I could have recouped some of the car price with that but had no way to haul it and a lifetime supply was a bit much. Bought the boy the 84 SD when he graduated college, the daughter unit was by then driving the TD. Mama told me after the fact that she liked the SD and why did I get it for him and not her, sigh... So for her birthday a few years back got her an SD like the boy's. Now the daughter is driving mama's SD, the boy's SD and the TD are here and I need to do something with them. Mama needed a new reliable ride so got the ML. The TD is kinda past it's useful life due to rust but it still runs well, I am thinking to pull some parts and haul it to the knacker. But yeah, I remember my buddy's dad's MB from way back then and how exotic it was, the ride and performance. I'll see my friend in a coupla weeks, will have to talk about that car! --R On 4/24/15 10:52 AM, Dimitri wrote: Is that what set you on a lifelong Mercedes path? Sent from my iPhone On Apr 24, 2015, at 10:42 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Back when I was in college, this would have been like 73 or 74, my buddy borrowed his dad's new Benz to go out riding around. I can't recall what it was, a 280 maybe? Anyway we were out driving in the semi-countryside on the edge of town and he is going like 60 or so down this road and the railroad tracks are up there a bit. These tracks were bad to go over, we all knew that. I tell him to slow down, he says no watch this (hey y'all! ho mah beer n watchiss!) and we fly over those tracks like they weren't even there. I was amazed. --R On 4/24/15 9:51 AM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes wrote: Rick Knoble via Mercedes wrote: I have heard (never owned one) that the 116 is incredible, ride wise. I have heard that you can hit potholes and RR tracks at speed, and nary know they were there. The suspension supposedly drops too, when you get over 80-85mph. Like Curly said, if the ride height changes, it must be a 6.9. My 116.120 (300SD) would gobble up RR tracks at 55mph with scarcely a quiver, the kind of tracks that slow SUV drivers to 10-15mph. I probably scared the crap out of some of them by passing them right before or after the tracks at a 40mph speed differential. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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My driveway through the woods is a bit bumpy, and coming down it in a 123 or 126 is like floating. The ML bumps and sways as bad as my trucks. --R On 4/24/15 9:54 AM, Dimitri via Mercedes wrote: Back to the w123...my 240D floats over speed bumps. No need to slow down like in other cars. Hahaha. Sent from my iPhone On Apr 24, 2015, at 9:51 AM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Rick Knoble via Mercedes wrote: I have heard (never owned one) that the 116 is incredible, ride wise. I have heard that you can hit potholes and RR tracks at speed, and nary know they were there. The suspension supposedly drops too, when you get over 80-85mph. Like Curly said, if the ride height changes, it must be a 6.9. My 116.120 (300SD) would gobble up RR tracks at 55mph with scarcely a quiver, the kind of tracks that slow SUV drivers to 10-15mph. I probably scared the crap out of some of them by passing them right before or after the tracks at a 40mph speed differential. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Is that what set you on a lifelong Mercedes path? Sent from my iPhone On Apr 24, 2015, at 10:42 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Back when I was in college, this would have been like 73 or 74, my buddy borrowed his dad's new Benz to go out riding around. I can't recall what it was, a 280 maybe? Anyway we were out driving in the semi-countryside on the edge of town and he is going like 60 or so down this road and the railroad tracks are up there a bit. These tracks were bad to go over, we all knew that. I tell him to slow down, he says no watch this (hey y'all! ho mah beer n watchiss!) and we fly over those tracks like they weren't even there. I was amazed. --R On 4/24/15 9:51 AM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes wrote: Rick Knoble via Mercedes wrote: I have heard (never owned one) that the 116 is incredible, ride wise. I have heard that you can hit potholes and RR tracks at speed, and nary know they were there. The suspension supposedly drops too, when you get over 80-85mph. Like Curly said, if the ride height changes, it must be a 6.9. My 116.120 (300SD) would gobble up RR tracks at 55mph with scarcely a quiver, the kind of tracks that slow SUV drivers to 10-15mph. I probably scared the crap out of some of them by passing them right before or after the tracks at a 40mph speed differential. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W210 Longevity
That must have been a W115 280. I had one of those and the suspension was the best of any of the 15 MBs I have owned On Fri, Apr 24, 2015 at 10:52 AM, Dimitri via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Is that what set you on a lifelong Mercedes path? Sent from my iPhone On Apr 24, 2015, at 10:42 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Back when I was in college, this would have been like 73 or 74, my buddy borrowed his dad's new Benz to go out riding around. I can't recall what it was, a 280 maybe? Anyway we were out driving in the semi-countryside on the edge of town and he is going like 60 or so down this road and the railroad tracks are up there a bit. These tracks were bad to go over, we all knew that. I tell him to slow down, he says no watch this (hey y'all! ho mah beer n watchiss!) and we fly over those tracks like they weren't even there. I was amazed. --R On 4/24/15 9:51 AM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes wrote: Rick Knoble via Mercedes wrote: I have heard (never owned one) that the 116 is incredible, ride wise. I have heard that you can hit potholes and RR tracks at speed, and nary know they were there. The suspension supposedly drops too, when you get over 80-85mph. Like Curly said, if the ride height changes, it must be a 6.9. My 116.120 (300SD) would gobble up RR tracks at 55mph with scarcely a quiver, the kind of tracks that slow SUV drivers to 10-15mph. I probably scared the crap out of some of them by passing them right before or after the tracks at a 40mph speed differential. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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On 24/04/2015 9:10 AM, M. Mitchell Marmel via Mercedes wrote: Well, I put a 116 sideways on an interstate doing about 75, and it stayed nice and stable until I got the skid under control... A lesser car would have tumbled. -MMM- I guess it was not a 116, but Craig's wife did not have quite as much luck as you did. RB ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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I agree on the 123 124's Curt On Apr 22, 2015 9:41 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I hate to say it but I begin to doubt your opinion. A 124 or 201 well sorted will ride much better than a well sorted 123. It'll handle better too. -Curt From: Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Rick Knoble rickkno...@hotmail.com; Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2015 9:07 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] W210 Longevity Well sorted to well sorted. A W123 is superior, W124 is good to. But a W210... ugh. They got it back with the W211 however. Jaime On Wed, Apr 22, 2015 at 8:41 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Jaime wrote: And that W210 ride... yuck. W210 ride after 300k miles, or well sorted W210 ride compared to well sorted W124 ride? Rick Sent from my BlackBerry Z10 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Jaime Kopchinski http://www.jaimekop.com/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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So do I. On Thu, Apr 23, 2015 at 12:30 PM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I agree on the 123 124's Curt On Apr 22, 2015 9:41 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com I hate to say it but I begin to doubt your opinion. A 124 or 201 well sorted will ride much better than a well sorted 123. It'll handle better too. -- OK Don NSA: The only branch of government that actually listens to US citizens! *“Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness, and many of our people need it sorely on these accounts.”* – Mark Twain There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence for themselves. WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers* 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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The W123 is, in my opinion, a smoother, nicer ride than a W124. Sent from my iPhone On Apr 23, 2015, at 8:16 PM, Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: It really depends on what you consider a good riding car, I think. Jaime On Wed, Apr 22, 2015 at 9:41 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I hate to say it but I begin to doubt your opinion. A 124 or 201 well sorted will ride much better than a well sorted 123. It'll handle better too. -Curt From: Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Rick Knoble rickkno...@hotmail.com; Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2015 9:07 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] W210 Longevity Well sorted to well sorted. A W123 is superior, W124 is good to. But a W210... ugh. They got it back with the W211 however. Jaime On Wed, Apr 22, 2015 at 8:41 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Jaime wrote: And that W210 ride... yuck. W210 ride after 300k miles, or well sorted W210 ride compared to well sorted W124 ride? Rick Sent from my BlackBerry Z10 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Jaime Kopchinski http://www.jaimekop.com/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Jaime Kopchinski http://www.jaimekop.com/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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It really depends on what you consider a good riding car, I think. Jaime On Wed, Apr 22, 2015 at 9:41 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I hate to say it but I begin to doubt your opinion. A 124 or 201 well sorted will ride much better than a well sorted 123. It'll handle better too. -Curt From: Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Rick Knoble rickkno...@hotmail.com; Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2015 9:07 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] W210 Longevity Well sorted to well sorted. A W123 is superior, W124 is good to. But a W210... ugh. They got it back with the W211 however. Jaime On Wed, Apr 22, 2015 at 8:41 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Jaime wrote: And that W210 ride... yuck. W210 ride after 300k miles, or well sorted W210 ride compared to well sorted W124 ride? Rick Sent from my BlackBerry Z10 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Jaime Kopchinski http://www.jaimekop.com/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Jaime Kopchinski http://www.jaimekop.com/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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A 126. Wilton - Original Message - From: Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com; Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2015 8:16 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] W210 Longevity It really depends on what you consider a good riding car, I think. Jaime On Wed, Apr 22, 2015 at 9:41 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I hate to say it but I begin to doubt your opinion. A 124 or 201 well sorted will ride much better than a well sorted 123. It'll handle better too. -Curt From: Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Rick Knoble rickkno...@hotmail.com; Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2015 9:07 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] W210 Longevity Well sorted to well sorted. A W123 is superior, W124 is good to. But a W210... ugh. They got it back with the W211 however. Jaime On Wed, Apr 22, 2015 at 8:41 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Jaime wrote: And that W210 ride... yuck. W210 ride after 300k miles, or well sorted W210 ride compared to well sorted W124 ride? Rick Sent from my BlackBerry Z10 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Jaime Kopchinski http://www.jaimekop.com/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Jaime Kopchinski http://www.jaimekop.com/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W210 Longevity
Dimitri wrote : The W123 is, in my opinion, a smoother, nicer ride than a W124. I have heard (never owned one) that the 116 is incredible, ride wise. I have heard that you can hit potholes and RR tracks at speed, and nary know they were there. The suspension supposedly drops too, when you get over 80-85mph. Rick Sent from my BlackBerry Z10 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W210 Longevity
210 rides fine to me. Sent from my iPhone On Apr 22, 2015, at 7:41 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Jaime wrote: And that W210 ride... yuck. W210 ride after 300k miles, or well sorted W210 ride compared to well sorted W124 ride? Rick Sent from my BlackBerry Z10 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W210 Longevity
I hate to say it but I begin to doubt your opinion. A 124 or 201 well sorted will ride much better than a well sorted 123. It'll handle better too. -Curt From: Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Rick Knoble rickkno...@hotmail.com; Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2015 9:07 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] W210 Longevity Well sorted to well sorted. A W123 is superior, W124 is good to. But a W210... ugh. They got it back with the W211 however. Jaime On Wed, Apr 22, 2015 at 8:41 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Jaime wrote: And that W210 ride... yuck. W210 ride after 300k miles, or well sorted W210 ride compared to well sorted W124 ride? Rick Sent from my BlackBerry Z10 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Jaime Kopchinski http://www.jaimekop.com/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W210 Longevity
Well sorted to well sorted. A W123 is superior, W124 is good to. But a W210... ugh. They got it back with the W211 however. Jaime 110/111 with good working (new) bilsteins is a nice ride. Hooked me for life! 126 yes! 123 americanized, but tolerable. 124 is good. can't comment on the others. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W210 Longevity
Jaime wrote: And that W210 ride... yuck. W210 ride after 300k miles, or well sorted W210 ride compared to well sorted W124 ride? Rick Sent from my BlackBerry Z10 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W210 Longevity
Yes I agree Sent from my iPhone On Apr 22, 2015, at 8:41 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I hate to say it but I begin to doubt your opinion. A 124 or 201 well sorted will ride much better than a well sorted 123. It'll handle better too. -Curt From: Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Rick Knoble rickkno...@hotmail.com; Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2015 9:07 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] W210 Longevity Well sorted to well sorted. A W123 is superior, W124 is good to. But a W210... ugh. They got it back with the W211 however. Jaime On Wed, Apr 22, 2015 at 8:41 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Jaime wrote: And that W210 ride... yuck. W210 ride after 300k miles, or well sorted W210 ride compared to well sorted W124 ride? Rick Sent from my BlackBerry Z10 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Jaime Kopchinski http://www.jaimekop.com/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W210 Longevity
Well sorted to well sorted. A W123 is superior, W124 is good to. But a W210... ugh. They got it back with the W211 however. Jaime On Wed, Apr 22, 2015 at 8:41 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Jaime wrote: And that W210 ride... yuck. W210 ride after 300k miles, or well sorted W210 ride compared to well sorted W124 ride? Rick Sent from my BlackBerry Z10 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Jaime Kopchinski http://www.jaimekop.com/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W210 Longevity
Rick Knoble via Mercedes wrote: This thing is an utterly beaten machine, not worth the scrap value. That said, it is confidence building to see a W210 with 300k miles on it, if you are in the market for one. http://chicago.craigslist.org/sox/cto/4985400581.html My 4matic has 260k on it. First owner leased it in NH. 2nd owner got it off lease, ran the odo up to 234k, traded up to a 211 when the trans started acting up. Interior was absolutely mint when I got it, but right side of body had lots of scratches on it. I've put a bit over 25k on it in 3 years. Interior far from mint now, I used it like a truck to haul construction stuff in. No reason it can't go another 100k unless it gets too rusty. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W210 Longevity
The engines in these are really outstanding. 300k miles isn't unreasonable... its easier to reach than the 1980s diesels, actually. The rust, on the other hand. And that W210 ride... yuck. Jaime On Wed, Apr 22, 2015 at 6:02 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: This thing is an utterly beaten machine, not worth the scrap value. That said, it is confidence building to see a W210 with 300k miles on it, if you are in the market for one. http://chicago.craigslist.org/sox/cto/4985400581.html Rick Sent from my BlackBerry Z10 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Jaime Kopchinski http://www.jaimekop.com/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W210 Longevity
My 97 e300 has well over 300k on the clock Sent from my iPhone On Apr 22, 2015, at 5:02 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: This thing is an utterly beaten machine, not worth the scrap value. That said, it is confidence building to see a W210 with 300k miles on it, if you are in the market for one. http://chicago.craigslist.org/sox/cto/4985400581.html Rick Sent from my BlackBerry Z10 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W210 Longevity
Yes, but not as rugged as a 124. I still like 124/126/140 better but I like the modern options on the 210. Sent from my iPhone On Apr 22, 2015, at 5:37 PM, Dimitri dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: Aside from rust, the W210 is pretty rugged. Sent from my iPhone On Apr 22, 2015, at 6:22 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: My 97 e300 has well over 300k on the clock Sent from my iPhone On Apr 22, 2015, at 5:02 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: This thing is an utterly beaten machine, not worth the scrap value. That said, it is confidence building to see a W210 with 300k miles on it, if you are in the market for one. http://chicago.craigslist.org/sox/cto/4985400581.html Rick Sent from my BlackBerry Z10 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W210 Longevity
Aside from rust, the W210 is pretty rugged. Sent from my iPhone On Apr 22, 2015, at 6:22 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: My 97 e300 has well over 300k on the clock Sent from my iPhone On Apr 22, 2015, at 5:02 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: This thing is an utterly beaten machine, not worth the scrap value. That said, it is confidence building to see a W210 with 300k miles on it, if you are in the market for one. http://chicago.craigslist.org/sox/cto/4985400581.html Rick Sent from my BlackBerry Z10 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
