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Brush up on your Mandarin? China will surely beat us in terms of economic growth in the coming decade. Illegally immigrate in China, make your millions, and retire back here so you can hire illegals from latin america to clean your house and cut your grass. Very respectfully, /s/ Max Dillon '87 300TD 334k miles (Off with the head!) '95 E300 281k miles (daily driving duties) '73 Balboa 20 (High dry until the head is back on) Charleston SC From: Mountain Man maontin@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sun, March 27, 2011 10:50:27 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Way ot Re: illegals Max wrote: Once construction picks up again, then perhaps the climate will change. We have the finest government money can buy. Construction picks up again? Don't count on that happenin' in the next decade. This econ is dead, Jim. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Mountain Man maontin@gmail.com writes: Construction picks up again? Don't count on that happenin' in the next decade. This econ is dead, Jim. Construction is booming here. More than I've ever seen. New apartment buildings sprouting like weeds, the university is building new dorms and administrative buildings... construction costs are the lowest they've been in a while and people with money are taking advantage. Allan -- 1983 300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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On Mon, 28 Mar 2011 08:00:15 -0400 Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu wrote: Construction is booming here. Where is here? Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Craig wrote: On Mon, 28 Mar 2011 08:00:15 -0400 Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu wrote: Construction is booming here. Where is here? CS.INDIANA.EDU implies Bloomington, but he's posted Indianapolis Craigslist ads in the past. MLH ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Bloomington, IN On Mon, 28 Mar 2011 07:55 -0600, Craig diese...@pisquared.net wrote: On Mon, 28 Mar 2011 08:00:15 -0400 Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu wrote: Construction is booming here. Where is here? Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Allan wrote: Construction is booming here. How long can that last what with IN playing the same games as WI with union trades and money deficits? mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Indiana is actually in better financial shape than its neighbors, particularly IL and WI. Especially IL. Bloomington in particular is faring better than much of the nation, our recently announced county unemployment rate was 6.6%. A couple of big construction projects here are University projects, ultimately public dollars, though the University has done a good job managing its finances despite state funding cuts and its bond rating has actually improved. They are taking advantage of currently low construction costs to make infrastructure improvements. There is also brisk activity in apartment/condo construction. Several major new high-rise (which here means ~10 stories) complexes have been recently built and more are underway. I have no idea who rents these (probably students with mom and dad's money) but they are going up all over the downtown area. The city is trying to encourage compact urban development so they are approving those types of development more than they are new development on the fringes, which they term sprawl. Allan On Mon, 28 Mar 2011 10:50 -0500, Mountain Man maontin@gmail.com wrote: Allan wrote: Construction is booming here. How long can that last what with IN playing the same games as WI with union trades and money deficits? mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Big fines for employers (I think $10k/head), if caught they are sent off. It is a distinctly unfriendly place for illegals though there are still quite a few around, but not nearly as many as NC or other suthrun states. --R On 3/26/11 9:48 PM, Dieselhead wrote: So what is SC doing about the problem? Or move to SC where the problem is being dealt with. And participating (agitating) in local politics is kinda fun. --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net writes: Big fines for employers (I think $10k/head), if caught they are sent off. It is a distinctly unfriendly place for illegals though there are still quite a few around, but not nearly as many as NC or other suthrun states. So in SC do the crops rot in the fields as the farmers cannot find any one willing to do the work to harvest them? Allan -- 1983 300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Nope, next door to our place is a colonia that a local farmer houses his migrants in for a few weeks during the summer (these are graders not pickers, your higher class of julio as he explains it) and they are all legal. Now this fella did spend a little time paying off a federal felony the last year or so (importing Wisconsin deer to his hunting farm) but does not mess with the illegals. The willing to do the work is totally operative here despite a large number of unemployed people who have few skills of any sort. A lot of stuff goes unpicked as there seems to be enough money in it that not all stuff needs to be picked. I am told the aforementioned fella made $10M year before last on his tomats after the blight hit Florida. Gleaners come and pick stuff after the market tomats are picked if the farmer allows, I might do that this year and lay in a supply of sauce. --R On 3/27/11 11:07 AM, Allan Streib wrote: Rich Thomasrichthomas79td...@constructivity.net writes: Big fines for employers (I think $10k/head), if caught they are sent off. It is a distinctly unfriendly place for illegals though there are still quite a few around, but not nearly as many as NC or other suthrun states. So in SC do the crops rot in the fields as the farmers cannot find any one willing to do the work to harvest them? Allan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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I think that the politicos have taken advantage of the dead constructions business, which employed most of the illegals, and gotten rid of all the workers when the business owners are too strapped to fight back. Once construction picks up again, then perhaps the climate will change. We have the finest government money can buy. -Max -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Allan Streib Sent: Sunday, March 27, 2011 11:08 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Way ot Re: illegals Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net writes: Big fines for employers (I think $10k/head), if caught they are sent off. It is a distinctly unfriendly place for illegals though there are still quite a few around, but not nearly as many as NC or other suthrun states. So in SC do the crops rot in the fields as the farmers cannot find any one willing to do the work to harvest them? Allan -- 1983 300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Max wrote: Once construction picks up again, then perhaps the climate will change. We have the finest government money can buy. Construction picks up again? Don't count on that happenin' in the next decade. This econ is dead, Jim. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Roger wrote: ...if we don't start getting serious and fixing things, then the joke will be on all of us. Look around. The joke has been on us for quite a while. I have believed the lie also, but I am aware now that there is a huge lie being played on me and reject it wholesale. There is no vote. There is zero ability for vote and political reform. DC is complete corruption. Abandon that, go for local reform as you can participate - which by definition does not exist - and carry on as best you can. This is not anarchy - this is pure democracy on a realistic level - locally. National democracy as we see it today only presents impossible options and zero solutions. This place is as Rome - gone. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Or move to SC where the problem is being dealt with. And participating (agitating) in local politics is kinda fun. --R On 3/26/11 2:34 PM, Mountain Man wrote: Roger wrote: ...if we don't start getting serious and fixing things, then the joke will be on all of us. Look around. The joke has been on us for quite a while. I have believed the lie also, but I am aware now that there is a huge lie being played on me and reject it wholesale. There is no vote. There is zero ability for vote and political reform. DC is complete corruption. Abandon that, go for local reform as you can participate - which by definition does not exist - and carry on as best you can. This is not anarchy - this is pure democracy on a realistic level - locally. National democracy as we see it today only presents impossible options and zero solutions. This place is as Rome - gone. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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--R wrote: Or move to SC where the problem is being dealt with. And participating (agitating) in local politics is kinda fun. Ya think? Kinda fun and politics don't seem to mesh... mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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http://teageegeepea.tripod.com/maumau.html --R On 3/26/11 4:03 PM, Mountain Man wrote: --R wrote: Or move to SC where the problem is being dealt with. And participating (agitating) in local politics is kinda fun. Ya think? Kinda fun and politics don't seem to mesh... mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Mountain Man wrote: Ya think? Kinda fun and politics don't seem to mesh... mao My Congresscritter is hosting a 'town hall' in town here on Monday. I'm trying to figure out whether it would be 'kinda fun' to outline my illegal alien amnesty program. (if they quit breaking our laws by leaving, we won't arrest them or discriminate against their attempts at securing a lawful visa) Either that, or it might be 'kinda fun' to talk about the ATF's efforts to prevent guns from going to Mexico by hiring confidential informants to buy 40 guns and smuggle them into Mexico on a motorhome and selling them to drug cartels. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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I went to the gubna's town hall meeting last week, asked her (Nikki Haley, first female gubna of SC and an Indian (india indian) too) a question, she said if I sent her an email she would get back to me, one of her flunkies gave me her card and said she would definitely follow up. I was sorta impressed. Then some whackjob woman asked what she was doing about the muslim terrorist training camps in the state, they were all documented on the internet, there was a big one outside some little town. She said to forward the details to some guy who was her security dude and they would check them out. Too funny. --R On 3/26/11 7:23 PM, Mitch Haley wrote: Mountain Man wrote: Ya think? Kinda fun and politics don't seem to mesh... mao My Congresscritter is hosting a 'town hall' in town here on Monday. I'm trying to figure out whether it would be 'kinda fun' to outline my illegal alien amnesty program. (if they quit breaking our laws by leaving, we won't arrest them or discriminate against their attempts at securing a lawful visa) Either that, or it might be 'kinda fun' to talk about the ATF's efforts to prevent guns from going to Mexico by hiring confidential informants to buy 40 guns and smuggle them into Mexico on a motorhome and selling them to drug cartels. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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So what is SC doing about the problem? Or move to SC where the problem is being dealt with. And participating (agitating) in local politics is kinda fun. --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Dieselhead wrote: So what is SC doing about the problem? Document the problem, then develop a plan. All I hear is innuendo and supposition followed by outrage that there is a problem. I was part of that crewe for a while. I don't join in the hollerin' anymore about this problem, because I don't believe the media hype on this type of stuff. They have agendas that don't match my politic. Again, document the problem thoroughly. Then lets cut with the innuendo and feverish hype, and then peaceably develop some human action to solve the crisis, if it is a crisis. I live in the largest hispanic municipality in the state. No real problems here - seems documented is the norm as far as I know, and there are plenty to know here, i.e. 60k. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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sarcasm And of course la raza could never be considered a racist organization and the fact that their gummit sends them here to take back their territory could have nothing to do with the problem nobody ever has their head stuffed in a dark place. /sarcasm ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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I love the way law and order citizens holler about the illegal immigrants, then break the speed limit every time they drive. We already decide which laws to obey and Mao already tells us that our country is go to hell in a hand basket. On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 7:26 AM, roger...@comcast.net wrote: But while on the topic, how do you feel about people who break the law? Should they get off with no punishment? Should we all start deciding which laws we want to obey and which we don't? The USA would really go to hell in a hand basket real quick if we all decided that our law breaking actions were courageous and should be ok. -- OK Don 2001 ML320 1992 300D 2.5T 1990 300D 2.5T 1997 Plymouth Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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OK Don wrote: and Mao already tells us that our country is go to hell in a hand basket. Defeat the argument, if you think that is possible. Is the argument sound or faulty? We are all welfare recipients, or welfare recipients in waiting. We want big honkin' government as much as any illegal, as much as any recipient we want to complain against - but we all hang around waiting for our share. Our share will never happen. That has already been shown and it is getting worse. Let's not wring our hands about how to keep our welfare share in order - let's get busy on solutions against the welfare we *think* we deserve and abandon what we think we have coming. It ain't coming, it ain't gonna happen, lets get busy against the fall that is happening around us as we ignore it and deny it's happening. Admit failure, resolve the problem, move on. Rape the social security network, realize it is toast and gone. Raid the medicare fund, abandon the military budget, get the country back on stable ground, abandon the all sacred vote and move on to another form of government - democracy is not god, price is not god, move one, everyone. It's dead, Jim. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Gee guys, Can you really equate entering a country illegally and stealing resources away from the rightful citizens of that country to speeding. If you can, then maybe you missed Civics class in high school. I'm by far NOT a law and order citizen, but I do believe that you try to obey all laws and try to change those you find unjust or just wrong or outdated...and you make those changes via the legal methods as prescribed by law. So, I'll admit that I have been guilty of speeding on occasion, but I have never illegally entered another country. And as for basically doing away with the USA and its form of government because we believe it all is wrong means we accept the fact that we haven't chosen our politicians very well. Instead of throwing the baby out with the bath water, we might consider: Selecting politicians based on character and not charisma. Listening to what is said and not how it's said. Vetting for completeness and not for convenience. Over the decades of my life, I've seen the quality of life in the USA diminish because personal interest groups have socially, politically, and legally chiseled away at our society. Some things needed changed, but we have gone so far that some think everything should be allowed. I don't want totalitarianism nor do I want anarchy. I think people try to make light of issues, scorn or make fun of those they don't agree with, but if we don't start getting serious and fixing things, then the joke will be on all of us. I for one have never had a free ride in life and I will not condone giving it to someone else regardless of how courageous someone thinks their actions are. MB content: How can the Arab countries be having so many problems when I see so many Mercedes in the news clips? Can't they share the MBs and just enjoy? Best Wishes, Roger Hale Monroe, Ga. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
