Re: [MBZ] We Need This:

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

Hoovie drove a Maybach GL whatever they call them and put on that show.  
It was pretty funny


--FT

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On our MLs and GLs:


[oar2.jpeg]
Mercedes Benz Jumping 
Mode
youtube.com

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Re: [MBZ] WE ACCEPT YOU CAR AS A HOOK

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I saw two of these things the other day while I was out driving around. They are really small but look bigger until you get close to them --FTSent from iFōnOn Dec 19, 2023, at 11:28 AM, Robert Rentfro via Mercedes  wrote:https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/282431098101578/ Nothing fishy about this. ONLY WITH YOUR COUNTRY’S ID AZBob Sent from Mail for Windows 

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Re: [MBZ] WE ACCEPT YOU CAR AS A HOOK

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Was bedeutet das?

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> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/282431098101578/
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Re: [MBZ] We can talk on price don’t waste my time 2003 Mercedes-Benz e-class,$5,200

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Underneath the grime is a neglected POS.

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> your price is a waste of time.  And the car is filthy
>
> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/6574228085939552
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Re: [MBZ] we now want something more rugged for beach life. Mercedes GL320CDI 2008 - $6, 200 (Surf City)

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Can use the embedded dog hair to refine your DNA tracking skills for your
next job as a crime scene investigator.

On Fri, Dec 23, 2022 at 12:53 PM Andrew Strasfogel 
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> The break pads prevent or allow the car to break?
>
> On Fri, Dec 23, 2022 at 9:50 AM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
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>> Needs some repairs
>>
>>
>> https://wilmington.craigslist.org/cto/d/hampstead-mercedes-gl320cdi-2008/7571143026.html
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Re: [MBZ] we now want something more rugged for beach life. Mercedes GL320CDI 2008 - $6, 200 (Surf City)

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The break pads prevent or allow the car to break?

On Fri, Dec 23, 2022 at 9:50 AM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
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> Needs some repairs
>
>
> https://wilmington.craigslist.org/cto/d/hampstead-mercedes-gl320cdi-2008/7571143026.html
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Re: [MBZ] We should all go buy 3 sets of these, maybe get a group buy rate

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No joke 

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> On Sep 6, 2022, at 12:40 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
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> you know eventually you will need them
> 
> https://www.harborfreight.com/10mm-metric-essential-socket-set-10-piece-58957.html
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Re: [MBZ] We should all go buy 3 sets of these, maybe get a group buy rate

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For me it's the 13mm I'm always hunting for.


On Tue, Sep 6, 2022, at 12:53, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:
> Yeah, I saw that this morning and had to laugh, as the only sockets I’m 
> missing in some sets are the 10mm ones….
>
> -D
>
>> On Sep 6, 2022, at 10:40 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> you know eventually you will need them
>> 
>> https://www.harborfreight.com/10mm-metric-essential-socket-set-10-piece-58957.html
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Re: [MBZ] We should all go buy 3 sets of these, maybe get a group buy rate

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Yeah, I saw that this morning and had to laugh, as the only sockets I’m missing 
in some sets are the 10mm ones….

-D

> On Sep 6, 2022, at 10:40 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> you know eventually you will need them
> 
> https://www.harborfreight.com/10mm-metric-essential-socket-set-10-piece-58957.html
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Re: [MBZ] We are selling the car because we have decided to join the tiny house movement and have sold everything we own to live in a school bus

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Hmm... the ad copy has changed a little. Has gone from "We are selling the car 
because we have decided" to "I am selling the car because I have decided"

Sounds like at least one person has bailed on the idea of living in a school 
bus.


On Wed, Apr 27, 2022, at 12:53 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes wrote:
> Reposted. I don't recall what they were asking last time.
>
> https://stlouis.craigslist.org/cto/d/saint-peters-2010-mercedes-e350-amg/7476534685.html
>
>
> On Wed, Dec 8, 2021, at 2:03 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:
>> Shadetree mechanic's dream!  "The sway bar links on the rear wheels have
>> broken, meaning sometimes when you hit bumps you hear it rattle. It is not
>> something that can get worse over time.
>> The windshield has a medium size crack from a rock hitting it."
>>
>> On Wed, Dec 8, 2021 at 1:53 PM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
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>>
>>> Everything about this ad is wrong and can never be right.  Only this
>>> missing is "no loballers I kno what I got"
>>>
>>> It has pedal shifters on the steering wheel and a nice sunroof.
>>>
>>> --FT
>>>
>>> On 12/8/21 11:47 AM, Allan Streib via Mercedes wrote:
>>> > OK then.
>>> >
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Re: [MBZ] We are selling the car because we have decided to join the tiny house movement and have sold everything we own to live in a school bus

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Reposted. I don't recall what they were asking last time.

https://stlouis.craigslist.org/cto/d/saint-peters-2010-mercedes-e350-amg/7476534685.html


On Wed, Dec 8, 2021, at 2:03 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:
> Shadetree mechanic's dream!  "The sway bar links on the rear wheels have
> broken, meaning sometimes when you hit bumps you hear it rattle. It is not
> something that can get worse over time.
> The windshield has a medium size crack from a rock hitting it."
>
> On Wed, Dec 8, 2021 at 1:53 PM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
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>
>> Everything about this ad is wrong and can never be right.  Only this
>> missing is "no loballers I kno what I got"
>>
>> It has pedal shifters on the steering wheel and a nice sunroof.
>>
>> --FT
>>
>> On 12/8/21 11:47 AM, Allan Streib via Mercedes wrote:
>> > OK then.
>> >
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Re: [MBZ] We are selling the car because we have decided to join the tiny house movement and have sold everything we own to live in a school bus

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Shadetree mechanic's dream!  "The sway bar links on the rear wheels have
broken, meaning sometimes when you hit bumps you hear it rattle. It is not
something that can get worse over time.
The windshield has a medium size crack from a rock hitting it."

On Wed, Dec 8, 2021 at 1:53 PM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
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> Everything about this ad is wrong and can never be right.  Only this
> missing is "no loballers I kno what I got"
>
> It has pedal shifters on the steering wheel and a nice sunroof.
>
> --FT
>
> On 12/8/21 11:47 AM, Allan Streib via Mercedes wrote:
> > OK then.
> >
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Re: [MBZ] We are selling the car because we have decided to join the tiny house movement and have sold everything we own to live in a school bus

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

Everything about this ad is wrong and can never be right.  Only this 
missing is "no loballers I kno what I got"


It has pedal shifters on the steering wheel and a nice sunroof.

--FT

On 12/8/21 11:47 AM, Allan Streib via Mercedes wrote:

OK then.

https://stlouis.craigslist.org/cto/d/saint-charles-amg-sport-package-2010/7417913328.html
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Re: [MBZ] we had just had it dtailed and they washed the engine and now it starts and wont stay running, , 2003 Mercedes E320 V6, loaded. just serviced PLEASE READ AD! $2800 - $2, 800 (RALEIGH)

[dan penoff.com via Mercedes]

I’ve done this on cars I wasn’t interested in. That is, I went to look at one 
and decided I didn’t want it. I’ll usually offer advice to address issues, 
deficiencies or offer marketing ideas if the owner seems interested. It’s the 
right thing to do in my mind. Of course, there have been some I wouldn’t give 
the time of day to if they were asses, even if there was a simple fix.

-D

> On Nov 30, 2021, at 4:14 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Nah, you're right, no reason to be an ass about it.  I have actually gone to 
> look at cars with some simple problem, helped the owner get it sorted, or 
> point them to the issue, and felt good about that.
> 
> --FT
> 
> On 11/30/21 4:00 PM, Jim Cathey wrote:
>>> Yeah there's that too, but then drive by waving and honk the horn...
>> So, you need to make him feel bad in order for you to feel good?
>> 
>> -- Jim
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Re: [MBZ] we had just had it dtailed and they washed the engine and now it starts and wont stay running, , 2003 Mercedes E320 V6, loaded. just serviced PLEASE READ AD! $2800 - $2, 800 (RALEIGH)

[Jim Cathey via Mercedes]

> no reason to be an ass about it.

Exactly.  Even considered selfishly, assery makes it less likely that you
can buy other such vehicles in the future.

> I have actually gone to look at cars with some simple problem, helped the 
> owner get it sorted, or point them to the issue, and felt good about that.

Good.  (Literally!)

My bet is that it's the CPS, and if it isn't it probably needs one soon anyway.
That and the can of WD-40, and maybe you're golden.

Our suddenly cantankerous and strand-ey E320 has behaved flawlessly since
the CPS was replaced.  Good thing it had only ever done it to me, else the wife
probably would not drive it.

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Re: [MBZ] we had just had it dtailed and they washed the engine and now it starts and wont stay running, , 2003 Mercedes E320 V6, loaded. just serviced PLEASE READ AD! $2800 - $2, 800 (RALEIGH)

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

Nah, you're right, no reason to be an ass about it.  I have actually 
gone to look at cars with some simple problem, helped the owner get it 
sorted, or point them to the issue, and felt good about that.


--FT

On 11/30/21 4:00 PM, Jim Cathey wrote:

Yeah there's that too, but then drive by waving and honk the horn...

So, you need to make him feel bad in order for you to feel good?

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] we had just had it dtailed and they washed the engine and now it starts and wont stay running, , 2003 Mercedes E320 V6, loaded. just serviced PLEASE READ AD! $2800 - $2, 800 (RALEIGH)

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> Yeah there's that too, but then drive by waving and honk the horn...

So, you need to make him feel bad in order for you to feel good?

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Re: [MBZ] we had just had it dtailed and they washed the engine and now it starts and wont stay running, , 2003 Mercedes E320 V6, loaded. just serviced PLEASE READ AD! $2800 - $2, 800 (RALEIGH)

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Before you go ask if owner was a smoker.

On Tue, Nov 30, 2021 at 3:57 PM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
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> Yeah there's that too, but then drive by waving and honk the horn...
>
> --FT (I am going to h-e-doublehockeysticks)
>
> On 11/30/21 3:44 PM, Jim Cathey wrote:
> >> pop the CPS on in the street or driveway in 15min and drive the thing
> home and they will feel screwed...
> > I was raised to not do this kind of thing.  Part of maintaining
> civilization is not rubbing peoples'
> > faces in their 'mistakes' of this sort.  The art of the deal is that
> _both_ parties feel like they got
> > the advantage.
> >
> > Tow it around the corner, and _then_ fix it and drive it home.
> >
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Re: [MBZ] we had just had it dtailed and they washed the engine and now it starts and wont stay running, , 2003 Mercedes E320 V6, loaded. just serviced PLEASE READ AD! $2800 - $2, 800 (RALEIGH)

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

Yeah there's that too, but then drive by waving and honk the horn...

--FT (I am going to h-e-doublehockeysticks)

On 11/30/21 3:44 PM, Jim Cathey wrote:

pop the CPS on in the street or driveway in 15min and drive the thing home and 
they will feel screwed...

I was raised to not do this kind of thing.  Part of maintaining civilization is 
not rubbing peoples'
faces in their 'mistakes' of this sort.  The art of the deal is that _both_ 
parties feel like they got
the advantage.

Tow it around the corner, and _then_ fix it and drive it home.

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] we had just had it dtailed and they washed the engine and now it starts and wont stay running, , 2003 Mercedes E320 V6, loaded. just serviced PLEASE READ AD! $2800 - $2, 800 (RALEIGH)

[Jim Cathey via Mercedes]

> pop the CPS on in the street or driveway in 15min and drive the thing home 
> and they will feel screwed...

I was raised to not do this kind of thing.  Part of maintaining civilization is 
not rubbing peoples'
faces in their 'mistakes' of this sort.  The art of the deal is that _both_ 
parties feel like they got
the advantage.

Tow it around the corner, and _then_ fix it and drive it home.

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Re: [MBZ] we had just had it dtailed and they washed the engine and now it starts and wont stay running, , 2003 Mercedes E320 V6, loaded. just serviced PLEASE READ AD! $2800 - $2, 800 (RALEIGH)

[Allan Streib via Mercedes]

Pressure washing the engine got something wet that doens't like to be wet.

Bring a can of WD-40.


On Tue, Nov 30, 2021, at 3:38 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote:
> That's exactly what I was thinking, or some connector got knocked 
> loose.  Get the CPS, show up, do the deal for less, pop the CPS on in 
> the street or driveway in 15min and drive the thing home and they will 
> feel screwed but think you're some kind of genius.  Or then say they can 
> have it back for $500 more which is what the stealer or a shop would 
> screw them for.  Tank you berry mooch!
>
> --FT
>
> On 11/30/21 3:25 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:
>> Bad crank position sensor, I would bet.
>>
>> -D
>>
>>
>>> On Nov 30, 2021, at 3:21 PM, Floyd Thursby via 
>>> Mercedes  wrote:
>>>
>>> Realtor spec but tempting.  Time to scan it and take every connection apart 
>>> and spray in some contact cleaner.  WHAT'S YOUR BEST PRICE
>>>
>>>
>>> CAR STARTS, BUT THEN DIES, WILL NOT STAY RUNNING.. 2003 Mercedes E320 178k 
>>> miles, 2nd owner..V6 that just had its major service done 60 days ago, that 
>>> included timing chain, tensioner, all gaskets hoses, etc we had just 
>>> had it dtailed and they washed the engine and now it starts and wont stay 
>>> running,, the dealer and the Mercedes shops are all booked up until well 
>>> after the first of the year. We have purchased a new wagon so have decided 
>>> not to spend the money to fix. Car is absolutely loaded! no accidents, new 
>>> tires, brakes, etc... $2800 cash will buy it.. bring your mechanic here if 
>>> you want to look at it. BRING A TRAILER TO GET IT HOME price is firm 
>>> and we have clean and clear title in hand,,,
>>>
>>> https://raleigh.craigslist.org/cto/d/raleigh-2003-mercedes-e320-v6-loaded/7414553617.html
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Re: [MBZ] we had just had it dtailed and they washed the engine and now it starts and wont stay running, , 2003 Mercedes E320 V6, loaded. just serviced PLEASE READ AD! $2800 - $2, 800 (RALEIGH)

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That's exactly what I was thinking, or some connector got knocked 
loose.  Get the CPS, show up, do the deal for less, pop the CPS on in 
the street or driveway in 15min and drive the thing home and they will 
feel screwed but think you're some kind of genius.  Or then say they can 
have it back for $500 more which is what the stealer or a shop would 
screw them for.  Tank you berry mooch!


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On 11/30/21 3:25 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:

Bad crank position sensor, I would bet.

-D



On Nov 30, 2021, at 3:21 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes  
wrote:

Realtor spec but tempting.  Time to scan it and take every connection apart and 
spray in some contact cleaner.  WHAT'S YOUR BEST PRICE


CAR STARTS, BUT THEN DIES, WILL NOT STAY RUNNING.. 2003 Mercedes E320 178k 
miles, 2nd owner..V6 that just had its major service done 60 days ago, that 
included timing chain, tensioner, all gaskets hoses, etc we had just had it 
dtailed and they washed the engine and now it starts and wont stay running,, 
the dealer and the Mercedes shops are all booked up until well after the first 
of the year. We have purchased a new wagon so have decided not to spend the 
money to fix. Car is absolutely loaded! no accidents, new tires, brakes, etc... 
$2800 cash will buy it.. bring your mechanic here if you want to look at it. 
BRING A TRAILER TO GET IT HOME price is firm and we have clean and clear 
title in hand,,,

https://raleigh.craigslist.org/cto/d/raleigh-2003-mercedes-e320-v6-loaded/7414553617.html

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Re: [MBZ] we had just had it dtailed and they washed the engine and now it starts and wont stay running, , 2003 Mercedes E320 V6, loaded. just serviced PLEASE READ AD! $2800 - $2, 800 (RALEIGH)

[dan penoff.com via Mercedes]

Bad crank position sensor, I would bet.

-D


> On Nov 30, 2021, at 3:21 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Realtor spec but tempting.  Time to scan it and take every connection apart 
> and spray in some contact cleaner.  WHAT'S YOUR BEST PRICE
> 
> 
> CAR STARTS, BUT THEN DIES, WILL NOT STAY RUNNING.. 2003 Mercedes E320 178k 
> miles, 2nd owner..V6 that just had its major service done 60 days ago, that 
> included timing chain, tensioner, all gaskets hoses, etc we had just had 
> it dtailed and they washed the engine and now it starts and wont stay 
> running,, the dealer and the Mercedes shops are all booked up until well 
> after the first of the year. We have purchased a new wagon so have decided 
> not to spend the money to fix. Car is absolutely loaded! no accidents, new 
> tires, brakes, etc... $2800 cash will buy it.. bring your mechanic here if 
> you want to look at it. BRING A TRAILER TO GET IT HOME price is firm and 
> we have clean and clear title in hand,,,
> 
> https://raleigh.craigslist.org/cto/d/raleigh-2003-mercedes-e320-v6-loaded/7414553617.html
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Re: [MBZ] we should take up a collection and buy this one

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Very droll!

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> Just because the guy is honest
>
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Re: [MBZ] We have sank slot of money in this car to make it a great daily driver but my husband had surgery and can't fix the safety switch

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The color is also a knockout.

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> That’s the patina that makes it unique and more valuable
>
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> > On Aug 23, 2020, at 2:00 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
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> >
> > They need to clean out the take-out garbage from behind the driver’s
> seat first.
> >
> > -D
> >
> >> On Aug 23, 2020, at 12:10 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
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> >>
> >> This could be a good deal although the rear looks blown.  4m Wagon
> >>
> >>
> >>  Mercedes e500 - $2,900(Salisbury)
> >>
> >>
> https://charlotte.craigslist.org/cto/d/salisbury-mercedes-e500/7182250511.html
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Re: [MBZ] We have sank slot of money in this car to make it a great daily driver but my husband had surgery and can't fix the safety switch

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That’s the patina that makes it unique and more valuable 

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> On Aug 23, 2020, at 2:00 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
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> 
> They need to clean out the take-out garbage from behind the driver’s seat 
> first.
> 
> -D
> 
>> On Aug 23, 2020, at 12:10 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> This could be a good deal although the rear looks blown.  4m Wagon
>> 
>> 
>>  Mercedes e500 - $2,900(Salisbury)
>> 
>> https://charlotte.craigslist.org/cto/d/salisbury-mercedes-e500/7182250511.html
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Re: [MBZ] We have sank slot of money in this car to make it a great daily driver but my husband had surgery and can't fix the safety switch

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They need to clean out the take-out garbage from behind the driver’s seat first.

-D

> On Aug 23, 2020, at 12:10 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
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> 
> This could be a good deal although the rear looks blown.  4m Wagon
> 
> 
>   Mercedes e500 - $2,900(Salisbury)
> 
> https://charlotte.craigslist.org/cto/d/salisbury-mercedes-e500/7182250511.html
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Re: [MBZ] We were talking about York AC compressors ...

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Or the DMV.

On Thu, Jul 9, 2020, 5:45 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
wrote:

> No more normal than living in Floriduh.
>
> -D
>
> > On Jul 9, 2020, at 5:42 PM, Andrew Strasfogel 
> wrote:
> >
> > But is it normal to live there?
> >
> > On Thu, Jul 9, 2020 at 5:26 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com > wrote:
> > But it’s a dry heat?
> >
> > -D
> >
> > > On Jul 9, 2020, at 4:55 PM, G Mann via Mercedes  > wrote:
> > >
> > > Temp this afternoon is only 112 F ... tomorrow, 115 F ... Sat / Sun
> 117F or
> > > above.. life on the desert floor at 1,300 ft altitude...
> > >
> > > Actually, pretty normal for first week of July...
> > >
> > > On Thu, Jul 9, 2020 at 10:01 AM Craig via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com >
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > >> On Thu, 9 Jul 2020 08:52:19 -0700 Jim Cathey via Mercedes
> > >> mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:
> > >>
> >  That, and 30 lbs of freon 12 to charge the system... ouch..
> > >>>
> > >>> Or test refrigerant.  Costs what, $20?
> > >>
> > >> IIRC, the test refrigerant has a upper temperature limit above which
> it
> > >> does not cool effectively. Grant being in Arizona would most certainly
> > >> hit that limit frequently.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Craig
> > >>
> > >> P.S. Grant: What is your forecast weather like in the next few days?
> > >> Albuquerque is supposed to get up to 103 on Saturday and we in
> > >> Moriarty are supposed to get to 101. Roswell is supposted to get
> > >> up to 108/109 several times in the next week.
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Re: [MBZ] We were talking about York AC compressors ...

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No more normal than living in Floriduh.

-D

> On Jul 9, 2020, at 5:42 PM, Andrew Strasfogel  wrote:
> 
> But is it normal to live there?
> 
> On Thu, Jul 9, 2020 at 5:26 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes  > wrote:
> But it’s a dry heat?
> 
> -D
> 
> > On Jul 9, 2020, at 4:55 PM, G Mann via Mercedes  > > wrote:
> > 
> > Temp this afternoon is only 112 F ... tomorrow, 115 F ... Sat / Sun 117F or
> > above.. life on the desert floor at 1,300 ft altitude...
> > 
> > Actually, pretty normal for first week of July...
> > 
> > On Thu, Jul 9, 2020 at 10:01 AM Craig via Mercedes  > >
> > wrote:
> > 
> >> On Thu, 9 Jul 2020 08:52:19 -0700 Jim Cathey via Mercedes
> >> mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:
> >> 
>  That, and 30 lbs of freon 12 to charge the system... ouch..
> >>> 
> >>> Or test refrigerant.  Costs what, $20?
> >> 
> >> IIRC, the test refrigerant has a upper temperature limit above which it
> >> does not cool effectively. Grant being in Arizona would most certainly
> >> hit that limit frequently.
> >> 
> >> 
> >> Craig
> >> 
> >> P.S. Grant: What is your forecast weather like in the next few days?
> >> Albuquerque is supposed to get up to 103 on Saturday and we in
> >> Moriarty are supposed to get to 101. Roswell is supposted to get
> >> up to 108/109 several times in the next week.
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Re: [MBZ] We were talking about York AC compressors ...

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But is it normal to live there?

On Thu, Jul 9, 2020 at 5:26 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
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> But it’s a dry heat?
>
> -D
>
> > On Jul 9, 2020, at 4:55 PM, G Mann via Mercedes 
> wrote:
> >
> > Temp this afternoon is only 112 F ... tomorrow, 115 F ... Sat / Sun 117F
> or
> > above.. life on the desert floor at 1,300 ft altitude...
> >
> > Actually, pretty normal for first week of July...
> >
> > On Thu, Jul 9, 2020 at 10:01 AM Craig via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> On Thu, 9 Jul 2020 08:52:19 -0700 Jim Cathey via Mercedes
> >>  wrote:
> >>
>  That, and 30 lbs of freon 12 to charge the system... ouch..
> >>>
> >>> Or test refrigerant.  Costs what, $20?
> >>
> >> IIRC, the test refrigerant has a upper temperature limit above which it
> >> does not cool effectively. Grant being in Arizona would most certainly
> >> hit that limit frequently.
> >>
> >>
> >> Craig
> >>
> >> P.S. Grant: What is your forecast weather like in the next few days?
> >> Albuquerque is supposed to get up to 103 on Saturday and we in
> >> Moriarty are supposed to get to 101. Roswell is supposted to get
> >> up to 108/109 several times in the next week.
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Re: [MBZ] We were talking about York AC compressors ...

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But it’s a dry heat?

-D

> On Jul 9, 2020, at 4:55 PM, G Mann via Mercedes  wrote:
> 
> Temp this afternoon is only 112 F ... tomorrow, 115 F ... Sat / Sun 117F or
> above.. life on the desert floor at 1,300 ft altitude...
> 
> Actually, pretty normal for first week of July...
> 
> On Thu, Jul 9, 2020 at 10:01 AM Craig via Mercedes 
> wrote:
> 
>> On Thu, 9 Jul 2020 08:52:19 -0700 Jim Cathey via Mercedes
>>  wrote:
>> 
 That, and 30 lbs of freon 12 to charge the system... ouch..
>>> 
>>> Or test refrigerant.  Costs what, $20?
>> 
>> IIRC, the test refrigerant has a upper temperature limit above which it
>> does not cool effectively. Grant being in Arizona would most certainly
>> hit that limit frequently.
>> 
>> 
>> Craig
>> 
>> P.S. Grant: What is your forecast weather like in the next few days?
>> Albuquerque is supposed to get up to 103 on Saturday and we in
>> Moriarty are supposed to get to 101. Roswell is supposted to get
>> up to 108/109 several times in the next week.
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Re: [MBZ] We were talking about York AC compressors ...

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Temp this afternoon is only 112 F ... tomorrow, 115 F ... Sat / Sun 117F or
above.. life on the desert floor at 1,300 ft altitude...

Actually, pretty normal for first week of July...

On Thu, Jul 9, 2020 at 10:01 AM Craig via Mercedes 
wrote:

> On Thu, 9 Jul 2020 08:52:19 -0700 Jim Cathey via Mercedes
>  wrote:
>
> > > That, and 30 lbs of freon 12 to charge the system... ouch..
> >
> > Or test refrigerant.  Costs what, $20?
>
> IIRC, the test refrigerant has a upper temperature limit above which it
> does not cool effectively. Grant being in Arizona would most certainly
> hit that limit frequently.
>
>
> Craig
>
> P.S. Grant: What is your forecast weather like in the next few days?
>  Albuquerque is supposed to get up to 103 on Saturday and we in
>  Moriarty are supposed to get to 101. Roswell is supposted to get
>  up to 108/109 several times in the next week.
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Re: [MBZ] We were talking about York AC compressors ...

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On Thu, 9 Jul 2020 08:29:28 -0700 G Mann via Mercedes
 wrote:

> Thanks for sharing the link to connect to them.

You are welcome. I was just surprised they are still made; the
four-cylinder pumps were an added benefit.


> I need one of the large 4 cyl pumps for the Mercedes bus / motor coach.
> That, and 30 lbs of freon 12 to charge the system... ouch..

As Jim said, you could use his test refrigerant to check the system out
before committing to R-12. I think, though, it will work only during your
"cool" seasons.


Craig


> On Thu, Jul 9, 2020 at 7:31 AM Craig via Mercedes
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> 
> > I discovered York AC compressors are still being made! A company named
> > T/CCI took over the York compressor line from Borg-Warner in the early
> > 1980s and was up manufacturing new compressors by 1985. They have
> > 2-cylinder compressors and 4-cylinder compressors which are available
> > in 4 displacement sizes.
> >
> > https://tccimfg.com/product/2cyl/

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Re: [MBZ] We were talking about York AC compressors ...

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On Thu, 9 Jul 2020 08:52:19 -0700 Jim Cathey via Mercedes
 wrote:

> > That, and 30 lbs of freon 12 to charge the system... ouch..
> 
> Or test refrigerant.  Costs what, $20?

IIRC, the test refrigerant has a upper temperature limit above which it
does not cool effectively. Grant being in Arizona would most certainly
hit that limit frequently.


Craig

P.S. Grant: What is your forecast weather like in the next few days?
 Albuquerque is supposed to get up to 103 on Saturday and we in
 Moriarty are supposed to get to 101. Roswell is supposted to get
 up to 108/109 several times in the next week.

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Re: [MBZ] We were talking about York AC compressors ...

[Jim Cathey via Mercedes]

> That, and 30 lbs of freon 12 to charge the system... ouch..

Or test refrigerant.  Costs what, $20?

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Re: [MBZ] We were talking about York AC compressors ...

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

you can just dump in 134 with adapters

--FT

On 7/9/20 11:29 AM, G Mann via Mercedes wrote:

Thanks for sharing the link to connect to them.
I need one of the large 4 cyl pumps for the Mercedes bus / motor coach.
That, and 30 lbs of freon 12 to charge the system... ouch..

On Thu, Jul 9, 2020 at 7:31 AM Craig via Mercedes 
wrote:


I discovered York AC compressors are still being made! A company named
T/CCI took over the York compressor line from Borg-Warner in the early
1980s and was up manufacturing new compressors by 1985. They have
2-cylinder compressors and 4-cylinder compressors which are available in
4 displacement sizes.

https://tccimfg.com/product/2cyl/


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Re: [MBZ] We were talking about York AC compressors ...

[G Mann via Mercedes]

Thanks for sharing the link to connect to them.
I need one of the large 4 cyl pumps for the Mercedes bus / motor coach.
That, and 30 lbs of freon 12 to charge the system... ouch..

On Thu, Jul 9, 2020 at 7:31 AM Craig via Mercedes 
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> I discovered York AC compressors are still being made! A company named
> T/CCI took over the York compressor line from Borg-Warner in the early
> 1980s and was up manufacturing new compressors by 1985. They have
> 2-cylinder compressors and 4-cylinder compressors which are available in
> 4 displacement sizes.
>
> https://tccimfg.com/product/2cyl/
>
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> Craig
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Re: [MBZ] We need to form a syndicate

[G Mann via Mercedes]

Kaleb in a few years?

Need to build some warehouse space to protect the rare jewels on the back
40... setting on a "gold mine".


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Re: [MBZ] We Gone and DUN it!

[Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes]

Congratulations! 

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> On Dec 5, 2019, at 11:16 PM, Kevin Kraly via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> There is a BIG, brand new Mercedes Sprinter in the driveway! It is the 144”WB 
> 12 passenger model with nearly every option but 4Matic, graphite gray with 
> black interior and MB-Tex seats. It had 6 whole miles on it before the 30 
> mile trip home. The just over $50K loaded Honda Odyssey is so much less van 
> than this Sprinter at just under $60K. Hopefully, Ody will find a home soon 
> as it’s much better to sell it rather than bend over and trade it in. Once I 
> get Doodlewagen outfitted with some non-skid mats, running boards and some 
> assist handles for easier entry, she’ll be ready for work!
> Kevin in Hillsboro, OR
> 2019 Sprinter Passenger 144wb, 30 miles, Der Doodlewagen
> 1982 240D, High Mileage Hildegard
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Re: [MBZ] We Gone and DUN it!

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

From the description, I think the sprinter dimension is saying it could 
run circles inside a 50' square or circle, (OD) while the hondog gives 
turning radius, which is half the inside front tyre to inside front tyre 
circle.   (Tyre ID)   so we really don't know which turns tighter.


My H beats both, as it has a turning radius of about 6" depending on 
traction and tires.



Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
December 6, 2019 at 3:41 PM
Google search suggests the Sprinter needs 47'6" and the Odyssey needs 
33' 2".

I might be comparing apples to oranges as the descriptions are different.
For the Sprinter the data says 47'6" wall to wall turn and for the 
Odyssey it says 6.05 M turning radius so I assumed the turning circle 
was double the radius.
However, I wonder if the Sprinter includes the overhanging bits front 
and back and if the Odyssey numbers are just at the wheels. I would 
think, however that the Sprinter has much more overhang, especially on 
the back and thus would likely take more room to turn.


Randy






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Re: [MBZ] We Gone and DUN it!

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6.05Mx2 = 39'9". Was that the longest model Honda?
Which is still surprisingly good if curb-to-curb (a smaller number than wall to 
wall). 
My Chevy Citation was 39' something curb-to-curb.
Mitch.

> On December 6, 2019 at 4:41 PM Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> Google search suggests the Sprinter needs 47'6" and the Odyssey needs 
> 33' 2".
> I might be comparing apples to oranges as the descriptions are different.
> For the Sprinter the data says 47'6" wall to wall turn and for the 
> Odyssey it says 6.05 M turning radius so I assumed the turning circle 
> was double the radius.

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Re: [MBZ] We Gone and DUN it!

[Randy Bennell via Mercedes]

Google search suggests the Sprinter needs 47'6" and the Odyssey needs 
33' 2".

I might be comparing apples to oranges as the descriptions are different.
For the Sprinter the data says 47'6" wall to wall turn and for the 
Odyssey it says 6.05 M turning radius so I assumed the turning circle 
was double the radius.
However, I wonder if the Sprinter includes the overhanging bits front 
and back and if the Odyssey numbers are just at the wheels. I would 
think, however that the Sprinter has much more overhang, especially on 
the back and thus would likely take more room to turn.


Randy



On 06/12/2019 3:26 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes wrote:
I'd bet a nickle that the sprinter can turn as tight or tighter than 
the hondog van.



Kevin Kraly via Mercedes 
December 6, 2019 at 11:46 AM
This Sprinter has every possible safety assistance technology 
including blind spot monitoring with audible and visual alert, 360 
degree camera, front and rear parking sensors and rear cross traffic 
alert. It also has attention assist that will alert the driver if he 
or she becomes drowsy. If it could drive itself, we would be set! It 
is 29” longer than the Odyssey with a nearly 2’ longer wheelbase, and 
it’s 114” tall!

Kevin in Hillsboro, OR
2019 Sprinter 30K miles, Der Doodlewagen
1982 240D, High Mileage Hildegard



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Re: [MBZ] We Gone and DUN it!

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

I'd bet a nickle that the sprinter can turn as tight or tighter than the 
hondog van.



Kevin Kraly via Mercedes 
December 6, 2019 at 11:46 AM
This Sprinter has every possible safety assistance technology 
including blind spot monitoring with audible and visual alert, 360 
degree camera, front and rear parking sensors and rear cross traffic 
alert. It also has attention assist that will alert the driver if he 
or she becomes drowsy. If it could drive itself, we would be set! It 
is 29” longer than the Odyssey with a nearly 2’ longer wheelbase, and 
it’s 114” tall!

Kevin in Hillsboro, OR
2019 Sprinter 30K miles, Der Doodlewagen
1982 240D, High Mileage Hildegard



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Re: [MBZ] We Gone and DUN it!

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On 06/12/2019 2:00 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes wrote:

On December 6, 2019 at 2:52 PM Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
 wrote:
Watch out for low bridges!


9 1/2' isn't bad. He could have gone under the famous 11'8" bridge with two 
feet to spare.
(11'8" is now 12'4", but people still find a way to hit it)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-VokezIMLKE

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Re: [MBZ] We Gone and DUN it!

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> On December 6, 2019 at 2:52 PM Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> Watch out for low bridges!


9 1/2' isn't bad. He could have gone under the famous 11'8" bridge with two 
feet to spare.
(11'8" is now 12'4", but people still find a way to hit it)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-VokezIMLKE

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Re: [MBZ] We Gone and DUN it!

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On 06/12/2019 11:46 AM, Kevin Kraly via Mercedes wrote:

This Sprinter has every possible safety assistance technology including blind 
spot monitoring with audible and visual alert, 360 degree camera, front and 
rear parking sensors  and rear cross traffic alert. It also has attention 
assist that will alert the driver if he or she becomes drowsy. If it could 
drive itself, we would be set! It is 29” longer than the Odyssey with a nearly 
2’ longer wheelbase, and it’s 114” tall!
Kevin in Hillsboro, OR
2019 Sprinter 30K miles, Der Doodlewagen
1982 240D, High Mileage Hildegard


Watch out for low bridges!

Randy


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Re: [MBZ] We Gone and DUN it!

[Kevin Kraly via Mercedes]

This Sprinter has every possible safety assistance technology including blind 
spot monitoring with audible and visual alert, 360 degree camera, front and 
rear parking sensors  and rear cross traffic alert. It also has attention 
assist that will alert the driver if he or she becomes drowsy. If it could 
drive itself, we would be set! It is 29” longer than the Odyssey with a nearly 
2’ longer wheelbase, and it’s 114” tall!
Kevin in Hillsboro, OR
2019 Sprinter 30K miles, Der Doodlewagen
1982 240D, High Mileage Hildegard

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> On Dec 6, 2019, at 8:47 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
>  Randy,
> With a larger vehicle its often easier to back into a parking space than it 
> is to back out. I've found in some cases with our Dodge 1500 that sometimes 
> I've easily pulled into a space that is now a bugger to back out of.This is a 
> case where you backup camera will be really helpful because its in the 
> confined space rather than out where you can already see with the mirrors.
> The trick of course is to practice, practice, practice. Angie and I went to a 
> restaurant the other day where I had to parallel park. I hadn't parallel 
> parked in probably 3 years and it took me 3 infuriating tries. I used to be 
> really good at parallel parking but a skill not used will atrophy.
> 
> -Curt
> 
>On Friday, December 6, 2019, 11:23:56 AM EST, Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
>  wrote:  
> 
> I guess Kevin does not have to worry about it, but my first thought was 
> about the difficulty in parking a vehicle with a 12 foot wheelbase. I 
> sometimes struggle to find parking with my F150. Parking lots are 
> tighter than they used to be and the parking spaces are smaller as are 
> the lanes between them. I generally look for spots that I can pull 
> through because one takes ones life in ones hands when one tries to back 
> out of a spot these days. Everyone is in a big hurry and no one wants to 
> wait for 30 seconds while one gets out of their way. I am thankful that 
> my truck has the back up camera and the sonar doo-dads in the back 
> bumper that cause it to beep if there is something behind me. That has 
> saved me more than once.  I have coffee at a local McDonald's with some 
> friends most weekday mornings and that lot is terrible. Parking a small 
> school bus would not be easy.
> 
> Randy
> 
> 
>> On 06/12/2019 10:14 AM, Max Dillon via Mercedes wrote:
>> Wow, that sounds awesome!
>> 
>> Max Dillon
>> Charleston SC
>> 
>> Dec 5, 2019 11:17:25 PM Kevin Kraly via Mercedes :
>>   
>>> There is a BIG, brand new Mercedes Sprinter in the driveway! It is the 
>>> 144”WB 12 passenger model with nearly every option but 4Matic, graphite 
>>> gray with black interior and MB-Tex seats. It had 6 whole miles on it 
>>> before the 30 mile trip home. The just over $50K loaded Honda Odyssey is so 
>>> much less van than this Sprinter at just under $60K. Hopefully, Ody will 
>>> find a home soon as it’s much better to sell it rather than bend over and 
>>> trade it in. Once I get Doodlewagen outfitted with some non-skid mats, 
>>> running boards and some assist handles for easier entry, she’ll be ready 
>>> for work!
>>> Kevin in Hillsboro, OR
>>> 2019 Sprinter Passenger 144wb, 30 miles, Der Doodlewagen
>>> 1982 240D, High Mileage Hildegard
>>> 
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[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

 Randy,
With a larger vehicle its often easier to back into a parking space than it is 
to back out. I've found in some cases with our Dodge 1500 that sometimes I've 
easily pulled into a space that is now a bugger to back out of.This is a case 
where you backup camera will be really helpful because its in the confined 
space rather than out where you can already see with the mirrors.
The trick of course is to practice, practice, practice. Angie and I went to a 
restaurant the other day where I had to parallel park. I hadn't parallel parked 
in probably 3 years and it took me 3 infuriating tries. I used to be really 
good at parallel parking but a skill not used will atrophy.

-Curt

On Friday, December 6, 2019, 11:23:56 AM EST, Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
 wrote:  
 
 I guess Kevin does not have to worry about it, but my first thought was 
about the difficulty in parking a vehicle with a 12 foot wheelbase. I 
sometimes struggle to find parking with my F150. Parking lots are 
tighter than they used to be and the parking spaces are smaller as are 
the lanes between them. I generally look for spots that I can pull 
through because one takes ones life in ones hands when one tries to back 
out of a spot these days. Everyone is in a big hurry and no one wants to 
wait for 30 seconds while one gets out of their way. I am thankful that 
my truck has the back up camera and the sonar doo-dads in the back 
bumper that cause it to beep if there is something behind me. That has 
saved me more than once.  I have coffee at a local McDonald's with some 
friends most weekday mornings and that lot is terrible. Parking a small 
school bus would not be easy.

Randy


On 06/12/2019 10:14 AM, Max Dillon via Mercedes wrote:
> Wow, that sounds awesome!
>
> Max Dillon
> Charleston SC
>
> Dec 5, 2019 11:17:25 PM Kevin Kraly via Mercedes :
>  
>> There is a BIG, brand new Mercedes Sprinter in the driveway! It is the 
>> 144”WB 12 passenger model with nearly every option but 4Matic, graphite gray 
>> with black interior and MB-Tex seats. It had 6 whole miles on it before the 
>> 30 mile trip home. The just over $50K loaded Honda Odyssey is so much less 
>> van than this Sprinter at just under $60K. Hopefully, Ody will find a home 
>> soon as it’s much better to sell it rather than bend over and trade it in. 
>> Once I get Doodlewagen outfitted with some non-skid mats, running boards and 
>> some assist handles for easier entry, she’ll be ready for work!
>> Kevin in Hillsboro, OR
>> 2019 Sprinter Passenger 144wb, 30 miles, Der Doodlewagen
>> 1982 240D, High Mileage Hildegard
>>


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[Randy Bennell via Mercedes]

I guess Kevin does not have to worry about it, but my first thought was 
about the difficulty in parking a vehicle with a 12 foot wheelbase. I 
sometimes struggle to find parking with my F150. Parking lots are 
tighter than they used to be and the parking spaces are smaller as are 
the lanes between them. I generally look for spots that I can pull 
through because one takes ones life in ones hands when one tries to back 
out of a spot these days. Everyone is in a big hurry and no one wants to 
wait for 30 seconds while one gets out of their way. I am thankful that 
my truck has the back up camera and the sonar doo-dads in the back 
bumper that cause it to beep if there is something behind me. That has 
saved me more than once.  I have coffee at a local McDonald's with some 
friends most weekday mornings and that lot is terrible. Parking a small 
school bus would not be easy.


Randy


On 06/12/2019 10:14 AM, Max Dillon via Mercedes wrote:

Wow, that sounds awesome!

Max Dillon
Charleston SC

Dec 5, 2019 11:17:25 PM Kevin Kraly via Mercedes :
  

There is a BIG, brand new Mercedes Sprinter in the driveway! It is the 144”WB 
12 passenger model with nearly every option but 4Matic, graphite gray with 
black interior and MB-Tex seats. It had 6 whole miles on it before the 30 mile 
trip home. The just over $50K loaded Honda Odyssey is so much less van than 
this Sprinter at just under $60K. Hopefully, Ody will find a home soon as it’s 
much better to sell it rather than bend over and trade it in. Once I get 
Doodlewagen outfitted with some non-skid mats, running boards and some assist 
handles for easier entry, she’ll be ready for work!
Kevin in Hillsboro, OR
2019 Sprinter Passenger 144wb, 30 miles, Der Doodlewagen
1982 240D, High Mileage Hildegard




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[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

Wow, that sounds awesome! 

Max Dillon
Charleston SC

Dec 5, 2019 11:17:25 PM Kevin Kraly via Mercedes :
 
> There is a BIG, brand new Mercedes Sprinter in the driveway! It is the 144”WB 
> 12 passenger model with nearly every option but 4Matic, graphite gray with 
> black interior and MB-Tex seats. It had 6 whole miles on it before the 30 
> mile trip home. The just over $50K loaded Honda Odyssey is so much less van 
> than this Sprinter at just under $60K. Hopefully, Ody will find a home soon 
> as it’s much better to sell it rather than bend over and trade it in. Once I 
> get Doodlewagen outfitted with some non-skid mats, running boards and some 
> assist handles for easier entry, she’ll be ready for work!
> Kevin in Hillsboro, OR
> 2019 Sprinter Passenger 144wb, 30 miles, Der Doodlewagen
> 1982 240D, High Mileage Hildegard
> 
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Re: [MBZ] We Gone and DUN it!

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

Congrats.  No way is a hondog worth 50 grand.


Kevin Kraly via Mercedes 
December 5, 2019 at 10:16 PM
There is a BIG, brand new Mercedes Sprinter in the driveway! It is the 
144”WB 12 passenger model with nearly every option but 4Matic, 
graphite gray with black interior and MB-Tex seats. It had 6 whole 
miles on it before the 30 mile trip home. The just over $50K loaded 
Honda Odyssey is so much less van than this Sprinter at just under 
$60K. Hopefully, Ody will find a home soon as it’s much better to sell 
it rather than bend over and trade it in. Once I get Doodlewagen 
outfitted with some non-skid mats, running boards and some assist 
handles for easier entry, she’ll be ready for work!

Kevin in Hillsboro, OR
2019 Sprinter Passenger 144wb, 30 miles, Der Doodlewagen
1982 240D, High Mileage Hildegard



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[Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes]

Pictures or it didn’t happen 

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Sent from iPhone

> On Dec 5, 2019, at 11:16 PM, Kevin Kraly via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> There is a BIG, brand new Mercedes Sprinter in the driveway! It is the 144”WB 
> 12 passenger model with nearly every option but 4Matic, graphite gray with 
> black interior and MB-Tex seats. It had 6 whole miles on it before the 30 
> mile trip home. The just over $50K loaded Honda Odyssey is so much less van 
> than this Sprinter at just under $60K. Hopefully, Ody will find a home soon 
> as it’s much better to sell it rather than bend over and trade it in. Once I 
> get Doodlewagen outfitted with some non-skid mats, running boards and some 
> assist handles for easier entry, she’ll be ready for work!
> Kevin in Hillsboro, OR
> 2019 Sprinter Passenger 144wb, 30 miles, Der Doodlewagen
> 1982 240D, High Mileage Hildegard
> 
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[Craig via Mercedes]

On Thu, 5 Dec 2019 20:16:39 -0800 Kevin Kraly via Mercedes
 wrote:

> There is a BIG, brand new Mercedes Sprinter in the driveway! It is the
> 144”WB 12 passenger model with nearly every option but 4Matic, graphite
> gray with black interior and MB-Tex seats. It had 6 whole miles on it
> before the 30 mile trip home. The just over $50K loaded Honda Odyssey
> is so much less van than this Sprinter at just under $60K. Hopefully,
> Ody will find a home soon as it’s much better to sell it rather than
> bend over and trade it in. Once I get Doodlewagen outfitted with some
> non-skid mats, running boards and some assist handles for easier entry,
> she’ll be ready for work! Kevin in Hillsboro, OR 2019 Sprinter
> Passenger 144wb, 30 miles, Der Doodlewagen 1982 240D, High Mileage
> Hildegard

Congratulations!


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Re: [MBZ] We sold our Peterbilt!

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On Sat, 5 May 2018 10:04:09 -0400 archer75--- via Mercedes
 wrote:

> What are you hauling with your remaining truck? Lot's of trucking
> activity in and out of Florida; especially during the winter vegetable
> and fruit seasons. Gerry ~~

We are still non-commercial; I don't know if we will be changing that.


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Re: [MBZ] We sold our Peterbilt!

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What are you hauling with your remaining truck? Lot's of trucking activity in 
and out of Florida; especially during the winter vegetable and fruit seasons.
Gerry
~~
Craig wrote:

> On Fri, 4 May 2018 21:45:44 -0500 "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes"
>  wrote:
> 
> > Staying in NM?
> 
> No. I have problems with the dust.
> 
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> > Sent from my iPhone
> > 
> > > On May 4, 2018, at 6:53 PM, Craig via Mercedes
> > >  wrote:
> > > 
> > > On Fri, 4 May 2018 23:15:00 + Rick Knoble via Mercedes
> > >  wrote:
> > > 
> > >> Yay! I bet you are grateful for that to be over. 
> > > 
> > > Yes, more than you can know!
> > > 
> > > 
> > >> Next chapter...
> > > 
> > > Yes, which doesn't include Indiana.
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Re: [MBZ] We sold our Peterbilt!

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On Fri, 4 May 2018 21:45:44 -0500 "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes"
 wrote:

> Staying in NM?

No. I have problems with the dust.


> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> > On May 4, 2018, at 6:53 PM, Craig via Mercedes
> >  wrote:
> > 
> > On Fri, 4 May 2018 23:15:00 + Rick Knoble via Mercedes
> >  wrote:
> > 
> >> Yay! I bet you are grateful for that to be over. 
> > 
> > Yes, more than you can know!
> > 
> > 
> >> Next chapter...
> > 
> > Yes, which doesn't include Indiana.

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Re: [MBZ] We sold our Peterbilt!

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Staying in NM?

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 4, 2018, at 6:53 PM, Craig via Mercedes  wrote:
> 
> On Fri, 4 May 2018 23:15:00 + Rick Knoble via Mercedes
>  wrote:
> 
>> Yay! I bet you are grateful for that to be over. 
> 
> Yes, more than you can know!
> 
> 
>> Next chapter...
> 
> Yes, which doesn't include Indiana.
> 
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Re: [MBZ] We sold our Peterbilt!

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On Fri, 4 May 2018 18:53:51 -0500 "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes"
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> So what is the new owner going to use it for?

He is going to put it to work on the Texas oilfields.


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Re: [MBZ] We sold our Peterbilt!

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Pick up old Mercedes and flip them on BaT.
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On May 4, 2018 7:53:51 PM EDT, "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes" 
 wrote:
>So what is the new owner going to use it for?
>

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Re: [MBZ] We sold our Peterbilt!

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So what is the new owner going to use it for?

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 4, 2018, at 5:53 PM, Craig via Mercedes  wrote:
> 
> The transaction concluded today and the new owner drove it away.
> 
> We are glad the long process is concluded!
> 
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Re: [MBZ] We sold our Peterbilt!

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On Fri, 4 May 2018 23:15:00 + Rick Knoble via Mercedes
 wrote:

> Yay! I bet you are grateful for that to be over. 

Yes, more than you can know!


> Next chapter...

Yes, which doesn't include Indiana.


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Re: [MBZ] We sold our Peterbilt!

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Yay! I bet you are grateful for that to be over. 

Next chapter...

Rick


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Subject: [MBZ] We sold our Peterbilt!

The transaction concluded today and the new owner drove it away.

We are glad the long process is concluded!


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Re: [MBZ] We Have Seen the Harness and it Is Us

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Harness is done.  Pig of a job, but definitely easier than the W140 lower 
harness which is far more complex.

Started right up and idled quite smooth.  Didn’t drive it but I still have an 
ASR light.  Grr.

Tomorrow it gets the hood pad and I start on the paint recovery.  I’m going to 
put the C3 to it again and see if anything new is going on with codes.

-D

 
> On Feb 17, 2018, at 6:06 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> OK, I wasn’t ready to post them, but go to the link in my original post and 
> you can see some close ups of the old and “new” harness.
> 
> -D
> 
> 
>> On Feb 17, 2018, at 6:02 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Picture?
>> -- 
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>> 


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Re: [MBZ] We Have Seen the Harness and it Is Us

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

OK, I wasn’t ready to post them, but go to the link in my original post and you 
can see some close ups of the old and “new” harness.

-D


> On Feb 17, 2018, at 6:02 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Picture?
> -- 
> Max Dillon
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> '95 E300
> 
> On February 17, 2018 5:51:33 PM EST, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
>> Harness is rebuilt.  Took about an hour of work while listening to
>> Terry Gross.  I will rest my bones then head back out to reinstall in a
>> few minutes.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>> 
>>> On Feb 17, 2018, at 4:02 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes
>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Was planning on rebuilding the lower engine harness on the 400E this
>> morning until youngest son sticks his head in my office and says, “Hey
>> Dad, want to go to the range at 11:00?”
>>> 
>>> Yup.
>>> 
>>> So after a couple hours of range time on an absolutely beautiful
>> Florida winter day (80F, 30% humidity, no clouds) we grabbed some lunch
>> and then I started in.
>>> 
>>> It took me a little under an hour to extricate the harness while
>> listening to George Gershwin and Rhapsody in Blue among other things.. 
>> You can see a picture of the remains here:
>>> 
>>> http://penoff.com/photodump.html
>>> 
>>> Far simpler than the W140 lower harness.  Only four small wires and
>> one BIG one.  The convoluted tubing that was on it totally shattered
>> and has formed a large pile under the car.   I’ve got everything on
>> hand to rebuild it, so after I get a cold beverage I’ll head back out
>> to the garage and have at it.
>>> 
>>> -D
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Re: [MBZ] We Have Seen the Harness and it Is Us

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Picture?
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On February 17, 2018 5:51:33 PM EST, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
 wrote:
>Harness is rebuilt.  Took about an hour of work while listening to
>Terry Gross.  I will rest my bones then head back out to reinstall in a
>few minutes.
>
>-D
>
>
>> On Feb 17, 2018, at 4:02 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes
> wrote:
>> 
>> Was planning on rebuilding the lower engine harness on the 400E this
>morning until youngest son sticks his head in my office and says, “Hey
>Dad, want to go to the range at 11:00?”
>> 
>> Yup.
>> 
>> So after a couple hours of range time on an absolutely beautiful
>Florida winter day (80F, 30% humidity, no clouds) we grabbed some lunch
>and then I started in.
>> 
>> It took me a little under an hour to extricate the harness while
>listening to George Gershwin and Rhapsody in Blue among other things.. 
>You can see a picture of the remains here:
>> 
>> http://penoff.com/photodump.html
>> 
>> Far simpler than the W140 lower harness.  Only four small wires and
>one BIG one.  The convoluted tubing that was on it totally shattered
>and has formed a large pile under the car.   I’ve got everything on
>hand to rebuild it, so after I get a cold beverage I’ll head back out
>to the garage and have at it.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] We Have Seen the Harness and it Is Us

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Harness is rebuilt.  Took about an hour of work while listening to Terry Gross. 
 I will rest my bones then head back out to reinstall in a few minutes.

-D


> On Feb 17, 2018, at 4:02 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Was planning on rebuilding the lower engine harness on the 400E this morning 
> until youngest son sticks his head in my office and says, “Hey Dad, want to 
> go to the range at 11:00?”
> 
> Yup.
> 
> So after a couple hours of range time on an absolutely beautiful Florida 
> winter day (80F, 30% humidity, no clouds) we grabbed some lunch and then I 
> started in.
> 
> It took me a little under an hour to extricate the harness while listening to 
> George Gershwin and Rhapsody in Blue among other things..  You can see a 
> picture of the remains here:
> 
> http://penoff.com/photodump.html
> 
> Far simpler than the W140 lower harness.  Only four small wires and one BIG 
> one.  The convoluted tubing that was on it totally shattered and has formed a 
> large pile under the car.   I’ve got everything on hand to rebuild it, so 
> after I get a cold beverage I’ll head back out to the garage and have at it.
> 
> -D
> 
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Re: [MBZ] We grow and smoke our own ditchweed in the rural areas

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Air cleaner is purposefully black so whoever stripped it is an idiot.
Shiny valve cover is harmless, although it will probably tarnish fairly
quickly.

On Fri, Jul 14, 2017 at 2:26 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Is it just me or is the really shiny valve cover a huge red flag?
> -Curt
>
>
>   From: Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
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> Cc: Floyd Thursby 
>  Sent: Friday, July 14, 2017 2:16 PM
>  Subject: [MBZ] We grow and smoke our own ditchweed in the rural areas
>
> https://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/6209568395.html
>
>
> --
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> Winston Churchill:
> “Never give in--never, never, never, never, in nothing great or small,
> large or petty,
> never give in except to convictions of honor and good sense.
> Never yield to force; never yield to the apparently overwhelming might of
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Re: [MBZ] We grow and smoke our own ditchweed in the rural areas

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

Is it just me or is the really shiny valve cover a huge red flag?
-Curt


  From: Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
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Cc: Floyd Thursby 
 Sent: Friday, July 14, 2017 2:16 PM
 Subject: [MBZ] We grow and smoke our own ditchweed in the rural areas
   
https://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/6209568395.html


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Winston Churchill:
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petty,
never give in except to convictions of honor and good sense.
Never yield to force; never yield to the apparently overwhelming might of the 
enemy.”


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Re: [MBZ] We grow and smoke our own ditchweed in the rural areas

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

You should buy it and flip it on BAT.  Max and I could go get it for you 
and drag it somewhere more commodious.


--FT


On 7/14/17 2:41 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:

These are becoming iconic so prices are highly volatile.

On Fri, Jul 14, 2017 at 2:30 PM, Curt Raymond <curtlud...@yahoo.com> wrote:


Pretty color for sure, I wouldn't be surprised to see it in the $7,000
range if the miles could be verified but that price is outrageous. I know
prices are coming up on these but thats a super premium.

-Curt


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*Subject:* Re: [MBZ] We grow and smoke our own ditchweed in the rural
areas

Orient red... That brings back memories.  Nice car.

On Fri, Jul 14, 2017 at 2:16 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:


https://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/6209568395.html


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Never yield to force; never yield to the apparently overwhelming might of
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Never yield to force; never yield to the apparently overwhelming might of the 
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Re: [MBZ] We grow and smoke our own ditchweed in the rural areas

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

These are becoming iconic so prices are highly volatile.

On Fri, Jul 14, 2017 at 2:30 PM, Curt Raymond <curtlud...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> Pretty color for sure, I wouldn't be surprised to see it in the $7,000
> range if the miles could be verified but that price is outrageous. I know
> prices are coming up on these but thats a super premium.
>
> -Curt
>
>
> --
> *From:* Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
> *To:* Mercedes Discussion List <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
> *Cc:* Andrew Strasfogel <astrasfo...@gmail.com>
> *Sent:* Friday, July 14, 2017 2:27 PM
> *Subject:* Re: [MBZ] We grow and smoke our own ditchweed in the rural
> areas
>
> Orient red... That brings back memories.  Nice car.
>
> On Fri, Jul 14, 2017 at 2:16 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> > https://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/6209568395.html
> >
> >
> > --
> > --FT
> > Winston Churchill:
> > “Never give in--never, never, never, never, in nothing great or small,
> > large or petty,
> > never give in except to convictions of honor and good sense.
> > Never yield to force; never yield to the apparently overwhelming might of
> > the enemy.”
> >
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Re: [MBZ] We grow and smoke our own ditchweed in the rural areas

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

Pretty color for sure, I wouldn't be surprised to see it in the $7,000 range if 
the miles could be verified but that price is outrageous. I know prices are 
coming up on these but thats a super premium.

-Curt


  From: Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
 To: Mercedes Discussion List <mercedes@okiebenz.com> 
Cc: Andrew Strasfogel <astrasfo...@gmail.com>
 Sent: Friday, July 14, 2017 2:27 PM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] We grow and smoke our own ditchweed in the rural areas
   
Orient red... That brings back memories.  Nice car.

On Fri, Jul 14, 2017 at 2:16 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> https://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/6209568395.html
>
>
> --
> --FT
> Winston Churchill:
> “Never give in--never, never, never, never, in nothing great or small,
> large or petty,
> never give in except to convictions of honor and good sense.
> Never yield to force; never yield to the apparently overwhelming might of
> the enemy.”
>
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Re: [MBZ] We grow and smoke our own ditchweed in the rural areas

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Orient red... That brings back memories.  Nice car.

On Fri, Jul 14, 2017 at 2:16 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> https://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/6209568395.html
>
>
> --
> --FT
> Winston Churchill:
> “Never give in--never, never, never, never, in nothing great or small,
> large or petty,
> never give in except to convictions of honor and good sense.
> Never yield to force; never yield to the apparently overwhelming might of
> the enemy.”
>
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Re: [MBZ] We like the easy fixes

[WILTON via Mercedes]

ATTABOY!

Wilton

- Original Message - 
From: "Dan Penoff via Mercedes" 

To: "Mercedes List" 
Cc: "Dan Penoff" 
Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2016 10:59 AM
Subject: [MBZ] We like the easy fixes


Oldest son comes home last night and says that Tommy’s S420 is showing 
ABS/BAS/ASR lights and he has no cruise.  Hmm.


I’m thinking maybe a dirty speed sensor on one of the wheels.

Put the Chinee DAS system on the car, let it run a full set of 
diagnostics.  Five minutes later, we have a diagnosis - brake light 
switch.  Notes in the DAS suggest checking the third brake light for 
shorts/grounds.


Look at third brake light - doesn’t work.  Housing is forward 203 inches 
off the base, for some reason (oldest son offers no reasons.)  Check 
lamp - OK.  Put housing back on base, make sure wires ren’t touching 
anything, reinstall cover.


Brake light works, no more error codes.  ABS/BAS/ASR lights are now out 
after clearing codes.


Nice.

Dan
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Re: [MBZ] We like the easy fixes

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Yup, it was nearly on the hood…

Correction: 2-3 inches.

Dan

> On May 19, 2016, at 11:04 AM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Wow, was it way out in front of the car?  I could see where it might not be 
> working!
> 
> --R
> 
> On 5/19/16 10:59 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
>> Housing is forward 203 inches off the base
> 
> -- 
> --BB
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Re: [MBZ] We like the easy fixes

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Wow, was it way out in front of the car?  I could see where it might not 
be working!


--R

On 5/19/16 10:59 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

Housing is forward 203 inches off the base


--
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Re: [MBZ] We won!

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Congratulations  Curt & Angie. how,cool maybe next winter you can try to
fire off the OM 617 in my CD.

Dwight Giles Jr.
1982 300CD
1990 300D
Wickford RI
On Apr 1, 2016 6:57 PM, "Curt Raymond via Mercedes" 
wrote:

> You might remember the cold start video from February:
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1VhcR7RmEto
> Angie and I won "most creative video" which comes with a $100 parts credit
> with ID Parts.
> I'm pretty pleased with it and have already begun planning for next year's
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Re: [MBZ] We won!

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ATTABOY!
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Re: [MBZ] We won!

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 Curt Raymond wrote:
> > You might remember the cold start video from
> > February: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1VhcR7RmEto
> > Angie and I won "most creative video" which comes with a $100 parts
> > credit with ID Parts. I'm pretty pleased with it and have already begun
> > planning for next year's video. -Curt
> 
> Congratulations!
> Craig

Impressive! Good job.
Gerry

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Re: [MBZ] We should sell our 123s in Deutschland

[Curly McLain via Mercedes]

Clay sez: I am fairly sure I could take some sod homed farmboy from 
1895, toss him into a remedial year at college and have him surpass 
the bulk of his fellow student in 2016.


clay


That is exactly my point.  a kid with 5 or 6 years of school can 
outperform most kolledge gragiates of twodaze.





On Feb 26, 2016, at 10:58 AM, Curly McLain via Mercedes wrote:

 Those guys a hundred  to a hundred fifty years ago with a 5th or 
6th grade education shore did use big words!




 We are trying to educate you.  I think you have just caught a clue.

 I am reading the recent Wright Brothers book, their father was 
some sort of preacher who was fairly high in the organization of 
whatever flavor he practiced, he traveled a lot in his duties but 
still did preaching and sermonizing and whatever.  One of his pet 
topics was "intransigent ignorance," which I might also call 
"refractory ignorance," and it gave him no end of fodder for his 
sermons as well as his teachings of his chirruns.  I see a lot of 
it around me, nothing has apparently changed in 120some years or 
more.  More preaching!


 --R (here to help!)

 On 2/26/16 11:35 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:

 You folks amaze me - everything "bad" is clearly Obama's fault while
 everything "good" gets credited to someone else.


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Re: [MBZ] We should sell our 123s in Deutschland

[clay via Mercedes]

The quality of their middle school education is light years ahead of our 
current expectation for an 8th grade survivor.   We turn out high school 
graduates that are forcing colleges to gin up an extra year of remedial classes 
to get these idiots to a level able to learn in an entry level class.  I am 
fairly sure I could take some sod homed farmboy from 1895, toss him into a 
remedial year at college and have him surpass the bulk of his fellow student in 
2016.

clay



On Feb 26, 2016, at 10:58 AM, Curly McLain via Mercedes wrote:

> Those guys a hundred  to a hundred fifty years ago with a 5th or 6th grade 
> education shore did use big words!
> 
> 
>> We are trying to educate you.  I think you have just caught a clue.
>> 
>> I am reading the recent Wright Brothers book, their father was some sort of 
>> preacher who was fairly high in the organization of whatever flavor he 
>> practiced, he traveled a lot in his duties but still did preaching and 
>> sermonizing and whatever.  One of his pet topics was "intransigent 
>> ignorance," which I might also call "refractory ignorance," and it gave him 
>> no end of fodder for his sermons as well as his teachings of his chirruns.  
>> I see a lot of it around me, nothing has apparently changed in 120some years 
>> or more.  More preaching!
>> 
>> --R (here to help!)
>> 
>> On 2/26/16 11:35 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:
>>> You folks amaze me - everything "bad" is clearly Obama's fault while
>>> everything "good" gets credited to someone else.
> 
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Re: [MBZ] We should sell our 123s in Deutschland

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Thanks Obama for destroying the US petroleum industry and wrecking our ability 
to provide our energy sufficiency.

clay

On Feb 26, 2016, at 7:40 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:

> Thanks, Obama for the lowest gas prices in a gazillion years.
> 
> On Fri, Feb 26, 2016 at 10:30 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> Euro is like $1.10 right now?  Looks like a social democratic economic
>> success.
>> 
>> Why aren't new Benz prices like 30% lower than a year or two ago? Thanks
>> Obama for keeping our car prices high.
>> 
>> --R
>> 
>> On 2/26/16 10:11 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:
>> 
>>> Sounds impressive, but the Euro is WAY down, and the dollar is STRONG,
>>> thanks to Obama.
>>> 
>>> On Fri, Feb 26, 2016 at 9:50 AM, Curly McLain via Mercedes <
>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
 http://www.ebay.de/itm/172102787678?ssPageName=STRK%3AMESELX%3AIT&_trksid=p3984.m1558.l2649
 
 $20,000 yuros for a 240D automatic?
 
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Re: [MBZ] We should sell our 123s in Deutschland

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Apple and oranges.

The yuro car has a tool kit still in the plastic.  Their cars have to pass 
inspection that our cars would fail.  The thing for sale looks like it has been 
constantly repaired and might even be a #2 condition collector car.

clay


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> http://www.ebay.de/itm/172102787678?ssPageName=STRK%3AMESELX%3AIT&_trksid=p3984.m1558.l2649
> 
> $20,000 yuros for a 240D automatic?
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Re: [MBZ] We should sell our 123s in Deutschland

[Curly McLain via Mercedes]

Those guys a hundred  to a hundred fifty years ago with a 5th or 6th 
grade education shore did use big words!




We are trying to educate you.  I think you have just caught a clue.

I am reading the recent Wright Brothers book, their father was some 
sort of preacher who was fairly high in the organization of whatever 
flavor he practiced, he traveled a lot in his duties but still did 
preaching and sermonizing and whatever.  One of his pet topics was 
"intransigent ignorance," which I might also call "refractory 
ignorance," and it gave him no end of fodder for his sermons as well 
as his teachings of his chirruns.  I see a lot of it around me, 
nothing has apparently changed in 120some years or more.  More 
preaching!


--R (here to help!)

On 2/26/16 11:35 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:

You folks amaze me - everything "bad" is clearly Obama's fault while
everything "good" gets credited to someone else.


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Re: [MBZ] We should sell our 123s in Deutschland

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We are trying to educate you.  I think you have just caught a clue.

I am reading the recent Wright Brothers book, their father was some sort 
of preacher who was fairly high in the organization of whatever flavor 
he practiced, he traveled a lot in his duties but still did preaching 
and sermonizing and whatever.  One of his pet topics was "intransigent 
ignorance," which I might also call "refractory ignorance," and it gave 
him no end of fodder for his sermons as well as his teachings of his 
chirruns.  I see a lot of it around me, nothing has apparently changed 
in 120some years or more.  More preaching!


--R (here to help!)

On 2/26/16 11:35 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:

You folks amaze me - everything "bad" is clearly Obama's fault while
everything "good" gets credited to someone else.



On Fri, Feb 26, 2016 at 10:57 AM, Curly McLain via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:


It was done by the hse of saud and by the people who went drilling in ND
in spite of the bumster's best efforts to kill the US oel industry.  ang
benzine was similar prices in early 2009.

Thanks, Obama for the lowest gas prices in a gazillion years.



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Re: [MBZ] We should sell our 123s in Deutschland

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

You folks amaze me - everything "bad" is clearly Obama's fault while
everything "good" gets credited to someone else.



On Fri, Feb 26, 2016 at 10:57 AM, Curly McLain via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> It was done by the hse of saud and by the people who went drilling in ND
> in spite of the bumster's best efforts to kill the US oel industry.  ang
> benzine was similar prices in early 2009.
>
> Thanks, Obama for the lowest gas prices in a gazillion years.
>>
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Re: [MBZ] We should sell our 123s in Deutschland

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Euro is like $1.10 right now?  Looks like a social democratic 
economic success.


Why aren't new Benz prices like 30% lower than a year or two ago? 
Thanks Obama for keeping our car prices high.


--R


Ja, the socialists in yurp are so successful that even though our 
economy is in the dumps thanks to our peaceful sacred dear ruler's 
marx ism, Yurp is so much worse that the yuro is only worth a buck.


It is not that the buck is strong, it is that Puutie, the chicoms, 
the norks, and yurp are all so much worse that it makes the nearly 
dead buck look relatively strong.


We SHOULD be able to buy MBs and Beemws for shovey  prices.  MomBUSA 
should be making lots of jingies now.


BTW, I think HD is doing just fine for the past 20 years.  Maybe we 
shoulda repealed the harley gift tax on other  brands 15 or 20 years 
ago?


About half the price of a 2 wheel BMW is the harley gift tax.

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Re: [MBZ] We should sell our 123s in Deutschland

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It was done by the hse of saud and by the people who went drilling in 
ND in spite of the bumster's best efforts to kill the US oel 
industry.  ang benzine was similar prices in early 2009.



Thanks, Obama for the lowest gas prices in a gazillion years.




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Re: [MBZ] We should sell our 123s in Deutschland

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Thanks, frackers, for beating Obama and the OPECkerwoods

--R

On 2/26/16 10:40 AM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote:

Thanks, Obama for the lowest gas prices in a gazillion years.

On Fri, Feb 26, 2016 at 10:30 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes 
> wrote:


Euro is like $1.10 right now?  Looks like a social democratic
economic success.

Why aren't new Benz prices like 30% lower than a year or two ago?
Thanks Obama for keeping our car prices high.

--R

On 2/26/16 10:11 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:

Sounds impressive, but the Euro is WAY down, and the dollar is
STRONG,
thanks to Obama.

On Fri, Feb 26, 2016 at 9:50 AM, Curly McLain via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com > wrote:


http://www.ebay.de/itm/172102787678?ssPageName=STRK%3AMESELX%3AIT&_trksid=p3984.m1558.l2649

$20,000 yuros for a 240D automatic?

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Thanks, Obama for the lowest gas prices in a gazillion years.

On Fri, Feb 26, 2016 at 10:30 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Euro is like $1.10 right now?  Looks like a social democratic economic
> success.
>
> Why aren't new Benz prices like 30% lower than a year or two ago? Thanks
> Obama for keeping our car prices high.
>
> --R
>
> On 2/26/16 10:11 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:
>
>> Sounds impressive, but the Euro is WAY down, and the dollar is STRONG,
>> thanks to Obama.
>>
>> On Fri, Feb 26, 2016 at 9:50 AM, Curly McLain via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>> http://www.ebay.de/itm/172102787678?ssPageName=STRK%3AMESELX%3AIT&_trksid=p3984.m1558.l2649
>>>
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[Rich Thomas via Mercedes]

Euro is like $1.10 right now?  Looks like a social democratic economic 
success.


Why aren't new Benz prices like 30% lower than a year or two ago? Thanks 
Obama for keeping our car prices high.


--R

On 2/26/16 10:11 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:

Sounds impressive, but the Euro is WAY down, and the dollar is STRONG,
thanks to Obama.

On Fri, Feb 26, 2016 at 9:50 AM, Curly McLain via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:


http://www.ebay.de/itm/172102787678?ssPageName=STRK%3AMESELX%3AIT&_trksid=p3984.m1558.l2649

$20,000 yuros for a 240D automatic?

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Sounds impressive, but the Euro is WAY down, and the dollar is STRONG,
thanks to Obama.

On Fri, Feb 26, 2016 at 9:50 AM, Curly McLain via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

>
> http://www.ebay.de/itm/172102787678?ssPageName=STRK%3AMESELX%3AIT&_trksid=p3984.m1558.l2649
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Re: [MBZ] We needa be more like yurp!

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Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:

A real paradox - Barcelona is one of the coolest, most vibrant cities on
the planet.


In 1992 or all the time?

Mitch

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Re: [MBZ] We needa be more like yurp!

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They’re a coop. That’s why they’re so accommodating.  If they were we a state 
regulated electric utility, they wouldn’t be giving him the time of day, much 
less purchasing his power.

If you read the article I linked to, it highlights one of the weasely things 
the legislators are doing to try and stay above the fray while keeping the 
utilities happy - You want to force me to buy power?  Sure!  Only make me pay 
$0.02-$0.03 a KwH rather than the rate I make you pay.  That way they can say 
they’re doing what’s expected of them for point-of-use but making it 
financially unattractive for the consumer.

Dan


> On Dec 4, 2015, at 10:52 PM, archer75--- via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Here's what I found on Clay Electrics website: 
> 
> "Member Generated Power
> Seminole Electric Cooperative, Inc., through Clay Electric, will purchase 
> electricity generated and delivered to Clay Electric from any of its members' 
> qualifying small photovoltaic systems of 100kW or less, under the provisions 
> of section 25 of the (PDF)
> 
> Looks like Clay Electric is one of the few power companies in Florida that 
> buy back excess solar power.
> Gerry
> 
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Re: [MBZ] We needa be more like yurp!

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Dan Penoff wrote:
> They’re a coop. That’s why they’re so accommodating.  If they were we a state 
> regulated electric utility, they wouldn’t be giving him the time of day, much 
> less purchasing his power.
> If you read the article I linked to, it highlights one of the weasely things 
> the legislators are doing to try and stay above the fray while keeping the 
> utilities happy - You want to force me to buy power?  Sure!  Only make me pay 
> $0.02-$0.03 a KwH rather than the rate I make you pay.  That way they can say 
> they’re doing what’s expected of them for point-of-use but making it 
> financially unattractive for the consumer.
.

I beg to disagree. Just because a Florida electric company is a coop doesn't 
mean they treat their customers well and/or give rebates.


1. Escambia River Electric Cooperative
2. Choctawhatchee Electric Cooperative
3. West Florida Electric Cooperative
4. Gulf Coast Electric Cooperative
5. Talquin Electric Cooperative
6. Tri-County Electric Cooperative
7. Suwannee Valley Electric Cooperative
8. Okefenoke Electric Cooperative
9. Clay Electric Cooperative
10. Central Florida Electric Cooperative
11. Sumter Electric Cooperative
12. Withlacoochee Electric Cooperative
13. Peace River Electric Cooperative
14. Glades Electric Cooperative
15. Florida Keys Electric Cooperative
16. PowerSouth Energy Cooperative
17. Seminole Electric Cooperative 

These are the members of the Florida Electric Cooperatives Association.
Most do not give rebates, and most point out that the state program, which was 
a joke, has ended.

The reason Manfreds coop gives rebates is that they operate in the same county 
as Gainesvilles GRU which is far to the left of most coops. If they didn't the 
left wing activists at UF would be giving them a fit, and the GRU might be 
crossing their lines to supply power to county residents.

Read this and you'll understand:

http://www.gainesville.com/article/20081013/NEWS/810140283

When we moved to Florida 70 years ago the state government, which was dominated 
by the Democratic Party, was gloriously corrupt.
Idealistic young people like myself at that time were frustrated because 
nothing could be done about it.
Now, the Republican Party dominates the state government, and the state 
government is still gloriously corrupt.
Idealistic young people like yourself are frustrated because nothing can be 
done about it.
The moral of that story is that anytime a political party has a lock on a 
majority of local elections there will be serious corruption.
Note: There were "democratic" periods when neither party dominated, but even 
then entrenched corruption, such as with power companies, persisted.
(Off the soapbox)
Gerry

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Re: [MBZ] We needa be more like yurp!

[MG via Mercedes]

Yep, but the bad part is that they still don't pay as much as 
they charge and you still have to pay the fuel surcharge on all 
the electricity you use from the line even if you replace it 
later, or so I was told by one person. I have gotten different 
stories including that the electricity usage cancels out with the 
replacement and there is no extra charge. Hard to tell what it is 
till it all starts.


Manfred


Date: Fri, 4 Dec 2015 22:52:42 -0500
From: "arche...@embarqmail.com" 
To: Mercedes Discussion List 

Here's what I found on Clay Electrics website: 


"Member Generated Power
Seminole Electric Cooperative, Inc., through Clay Electric, will purchase 
electricity generated and delivered to Clay Electric from any of its members' 
qualifying small photovoltaic systems of 100kW or less, under the provisions of 
section 25 of the (PDF)

Looks like Clay Electric is one of the few power companies in Florida that buy 
back excess solar power.
Gerry




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Re: [MBZ] We needa be more like yurp!

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Curly wrote:
> We needa be more like Yurp!

We need to re-jig our entire mind about electric.
Long wires with few taps? - absolutely unaffordable.
Numerous, i.e. perhaps at every residence - generation facility or solar panels.
Then think some other pattern of appliances such as those on motorhomes.
yada, yada - we can do much better than centralized utility systems uniformity.
Variation of system and greater ingenuity and invention will make our
dull economy turn to life.
We are in straight jackets regarding all arenas of market and culture.
mao

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Re: [MBZ] We needa be more like yurp!

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Having spent a little time with solar I can tell you that if we all had to 
generate our own electricity we'd do a lot better on the conservation front. 
Really makes you pay attention.
-Curt

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Cc: Mountain Man <maontin@gmail.com>
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Curly wrote:
> We needa be more like Yurp!

We need to re-jig our entire mind about electric.
Long wires with few taps? - absolutely unaffordable.
Numerous, i.e. perhaps at every residence - generation facility or solar panels.
Then think some other pattern of appliances such as those on motorhomes.
yada, yada - we can do much better than centralized utility systems uniformity.
Variation of system and greater ingenuity and invention will make our
dull economy turn to life.
We are in straight jackets regarding all arenas of market and culture.
mao

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Re: [MBZ] We needa be more like yurp!

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

Solar companies go bankrupt because the Chinese price their panels below cost 
of production...
-Curt

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This relates to a couple of other threads:

We needa be more like Yurp!  Seems Spain, that model of manufacturing 
productivity, has lotsa solar.  There ya go Andrew!  They even put 
solar panels  on top of graves!

http://www.therebel.media/paris_climate_conference_spain_s_abengoa_solar_goes_bankrupt

Pay heed to the connection between utility cost (manipulated by the 
goobers) and manufacturing.



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Re: [MBZ] We needa be more like yurp!

[Curly McLain via Mercedes]

Can you produce for your own use?

Or put another way, if you have the power co pull the meter and cut 
the line, can anyone stop you from putting up solar elect. panels? 
Or how long would it be until the gestapo makes you take em down. 
Maybe ALCLU would provide you a lawyer.




(oops, forgot they are not interested in "civil liberties.")

Hawaii has lotsa people who live off grid.  Not much on Oahu, but on 
Hawaii and other islands, off grid is not unusual.  The utilities are 
just not available.  There is a lot of solar there.



What about the lobbyists for the power utilities who get laws passed 
that make it impossible to use solar at your home?


The "Sunshine State" has some of the most restrictive laws regarding 
solar power in the nation. I can go totally off grid, but I can't 
produce and sell any of that power.


Dan who would go solar in a second, Chinee or not



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Re: [MBZ] We needa be more like yurp!

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

What about the lobbyists for the power utilities who get laws passed that make 
it impossible to use solar at your home?

The "Sunshine State" has some of the most restrictive laws regarding solar 
power in the nation. I can go totally off grid, but I can't produce and sell 
any of that power.

Dan who would go solar in a second, Chinee or not

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> On Dec 4, 2015, at 10:13 AM, Curly McLain via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> That is probably true for companies that make the panels, but once the panels 
> are installed and operating, the cost of new panels has little to no 
> influence on the operating cost.   This spanish company appears to be an 
> operator.  Nothing is said about it being a producer of panels.
> 
> 
>> Solar companies go bankrupt because the Chinese price their panels below 
>> cost of production...
>> -Curt
>> 
>>  From: Curly McLain via Mercedes 
>> To: Mercedes Discussion List 
>> Cc: Curly McLain <126die...@gmail.com>
>> Sent: Friday, December 4, 2015 12:24 AM
>> Subject: [MBZ] We needa be more like yurp!
>>  This relates to a couple of other threads:
>> 
>> We needa be more like Yurp!  Seems Spain, that model of manufacturing
>> productivity, has lotsa solar.  There ya go Andrew!  They even put
>> solar panels  on top of graves!
>> 
>> http://www.therebel.media/paris_climate_conference_spain_s_abengoa_solar_goes_bankrupt
>> 
>> Pay heed to the connection between utility cost (manipulated by the
>> goobers) and manufacturing.
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