Re: [MBZ] Windows 10 Upgrade from 7

[ROGER HALE via Mercedes]

Kaleb,
Have you run a search for logs?  There is a log folder under Windows.  It 
normally only holds "update" logs, but check anyway.  Also, did you go to your 
PC maker and get the latest BIOS?  I still think it's something simple which is 
being masked by the final error message.  Did you get my files?
Roger
Roger Hale
Dinnerware Classics, Inc.
Monroe, Ga.
770-267-0850
www.dinnerwareclassics.com
___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] Windows 10 Upgrade from 7

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

On mine I disabled that pci card in device manager that said it needed a 
driver. I’m doing the install again right now and it appears to actually 
install windows 10, because it boots into it then downloads updates. It’s 
currently at 13% on updates. Will see if it works this time or not. I am not 
sure how far into updates it got before but I’m pretty sure it has at least 
made at least this far.

Well just restarted and now it’s undoing changes so failed again. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 8, 2020, at 11:43 AM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I have not been able to make the upgrade work either. I have been trying to 
> do it on a laptop that really has no data etc that I would be concerned about.
> 
> It appears to work to begin but then hangs up when it is trying to download 
> the updates at 46%. I have tried a number of remedies that are claimed to 
> work but none of them appear to do so.
> 
> I am essentially frustrated with Microsoft once again. I have toyed with the 
> idea of moving to Ubuntu for a long while but never have. Now seems like a 
> good time to put it on this laptop and try it out.
> 
> I may be stuck with Windows on my office computer as there are a couple of 
> programs that I use that pretty much require it but apart from that the 
> office could no doubt go to linux as well.
> 
> Randy
> 
> 
> ___
> http://www.okiebenz.com
> 
> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/
> 
> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
> 


___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] Windows 10 Upgrade from 7

[Randy Bennell via Mercedes]

Probably but it is annoying that their upgrade program does not appear 
to work. I am not asking it to do anything odd.
The laptop is an Acer with an i5 chip and 6 G of RAM and lots of hard 
drive space.

It is a few years old but hardly an antique.

Randy

On 08/01/2020 12:12 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes wrote:

Randy - can you format (wipe) the hard drive in that laptop, and then try
to install Win 10 from a DVD or thumb drive?
-
Max
Charleston SC


On Wed, Jan 8, 2020 at 12:43 PM Randy Bennell via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:


I have not been able to make the upgrade work either. I have been trying
to do it on a laptop that really has no data etc that I would be
concerned about.

It appears to work to begin but then hangs up when it is trying to
download the updates at 46%. I have tried a number of remedies that are
claimed to work but none of them appear to do so.

I am essentially frustrated with Microsoft once again. I have toyed with
the idea of moving to Ubuntu for a long while but never have. Now seems
like a good time to put it on this laptop and try it out.

I may be stuck with Windows on my office computer as there are a couple
of programs that I use that pretty much require it but apart from that
the office could no doubt go to linux as well.

Randy


___



___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] Windows 10 upgrade failed again

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

I’m not too happy about the removal of a headphone jack on the iPhone. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 8, 2020, at 10:14 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
>  Apple is downward spiraling all together, they're making products to sell 
> more products rather than "thinking different". They're removal of useful 
> ports that they pioneered just a couple years before is very telling. I 
> consider removal of the SD card slot to be a crime against humanity.
> -Curt
> 
>On Tuesday, January 7, 2020, 11:12:09 PM EST, Brian Toscano via Mercedes 
>  wrote:  
> 
> Macs are not what they used to be.
> 
> Years ago they were light years ahead of Microsoft but over time the two
> have converged.  Microsoft has gone up and Apple has gone down.  I remember
> back in 2007 or so using a neighbors printer with my Mac and he said I'd
> probably have to install some device drivers, etc.  I said I'll probably
> just connect the USB cable and hit print and it will print.  The printed
> pages came out and he was so impressed he bought Macs for his family.  This
> is why people used to say "Macs just work."
> 
> But it's just not the same anymore.  I'm sending this email from a
> Microsoft Surface Pro 7 running Windows 10...  The SSD in my Mac failed
> last Monday morning.  I tried to recover from Time Machine to an external
> drive and it restored but would not boot.  Then I tried to upgrade the OS
> on the recovery drive I was restoring to so it would be the same version as
> the Time Machine, but it would not install because it did not see a factory
> SSD.  I read of others having similar problems installing or upgrading Mac
> OS when the factory SSD drive is not seen.
> 
> Windows is not perfect, but its trending better and macOS is trending
> down...
> 
> I would try a fresh install on an empty hard drive rather than try to
> upgrade from Windows 7.  Too often the spec sheet says it will work, but
> it's just not a great idea even if it manages to work somehow.
> ___
> http://www.okiebenz.com
> 
> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/
> 
> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
> 
> 
> ___
> http://www.okiebenz.com
> 
> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/
> 
> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
> 


___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] Windows 10 Upgrade from 7

[OK Don via Mercedes]

I've moved from Ubuntu to Mint since I had one PC and one instance of a VM
that wouldn't properly install Ubuntu, but Mint worked.
https://linuxmint.com - installed it from a bootable usb stick.

On Wed, Jan 8, 2020 at 11:43 AM Randy Bennell via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> I have not been able to make the upgrade work either. I have been trying
> to do it on a laptop that really has no data etc that I would be
> concerned about.
>
> It appears to work to begin but then hangs up when it is trying to
> download the updates at 46%. I have tried a number of remedies that are
> claimed to work but none of them appear to do so.
>
> I am essentially frustrated with Microsoft once again. I have toyed with
> the idea of moving to Ubuntu for a long while but never have. Now seems
> like a good time to put it on this laptop and try it out.
>
> I may be stuck with Windows on my office computer as there are a couple
> of programs that I use that pretty much require it but apart from that
> the office could no doubt go to linux as well.
>
> Randy
>
>
> ___
> http://www.okiebenz.com
>
> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/
>
> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
>
>

-- 
OK Don

"Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to
pause and reflect." Mark Twain

"There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who
learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence
for themselves."

WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers*
2013 F150, 18 mpg
2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg
1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph!
___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] Windows 10 upgrade failed again

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

I did not see the email you mentioned so I you could forward it to me directly 
that would be great. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 7, 2020, at 11:53 PM, ROGER HALE via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Kaleb,
> I sent you some file attachments, but neither my email or the files seem to 
> have made it through to you.  If you get them, try the Upgrade Assistant 
> (original).  It was good at finding and showing actual reasons that your PC 
> is not ready for an upgrade.  It was the reason I found out that one of my 
> Vostros needed a BIOS upgrade first.
> And for the other naysayers, I've always upgraded because it keeps all my 
> settings and I don't have to waste time creating them again.  Also, I first 
> used Macs in the early 90s.  They had HD controller problems and other 
> issues.  Yes they had good graphics, but...   We all like what we use.  I 
> just don't use odd or non mainstream APPs.  Not worth the OS problems they 
> can cause.
> Again, good luck,
> Roger
> Roger Hale
> Dinnerware Classics, Inc.
> Monroe, Ga.
> 770-267-0850
> www.dinnerwareclassics.com
> ___
> http://www.okiebenz.com
> 
> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/
> 
> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
> 


___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] Windows 10 Upgrade from 7

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

Randy - can you format (wipe) the hard drive in that laptop, and then try
to install Win 10 from a DVD or thumb drive?
-
Max
Charleston SC


On Wed, Jan 8, 2020 at 12:43 PM Randy Bennell via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> I have not been able to make the upgrade work either. I have been trying
> to do it on a laptop that really has no data etc that I would be
> concerned about.
>
> It appears to work to begin but then hangs up when it is trying to
> download the updates at 46%. I have tried a number of remedies that are
> claimed to work but none of them appear to do so.
>
> I am essentially frustrated with Microsoft once again. I have toyed with
> the idea of moving to Ubuntu for a long while but never have. Now seems
> like a good time to put it on this laptop and try it out.
>
> I may be stuck with Windows on my office computer as there are a couple
> of programs that I use that pretty much require it but apart from that
> the office could no doubt go to linux as well.
>
> Randy
>
>
> ___
> http://www.okiebenz.com
>
> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/
>
> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
>
>
___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] Windows 10 Upgrade from 7

[Jim Cathey via Mercedes]

For work I am using Windows, both 7 and 10, under VMWare on a Macbook Pro.
Also Ubuntu.  I think we're completely done with W7, though.

-- Jim


___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] Windows 10 upgrade failed again

[dan--- via Mercedes]

Our VDI environment is non-persistent VMs for the most part. Use it, toss it.

-D

> On Jan 8, 2020, at 11:10 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I was going to say "we don't support video editing from a VM" but actually we 
> do. Go price an nVidia Tesla v100, I'll wait...
> Now you see why I don't care to edit video from a VM. ;) Plus you need a thin 
> client and theres an AV offset you have to compensate for, its kind of a 
> pain. Really cool for schools though, make the boot volume of the VM 
> non-presistent and reboot between students, sweet.
> -Curt
> 
>>On Tuesday, January 7, 2020, 10:43:03 PM EST, fmiser via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:  
>> 
>> Curt wrote:
> 
>> If I didn't have specialty applications to support I'd run
>> Ubuntu Linux.
> 
> I banish those specialty applications to a virtual machine.  And I
> have a bunch. [sigh]  The host is GNU/Linux.  From the host
> (Linux) I have good software for browser, email client, pdf
> viewer, pdf creating, image/photo editing, vector graphic editing,
> CAD, spreadsheet, word processing, music player, video player,
> etc.  And then some programs that I rather depend on - some which
> might be Linux only, like sshfs, encfs, unison, ssh, SoX, ffmpeg,
> BASH, etc.
> 
> The virtual machine is for hardware specific software like audio
> DSP control, audio mixer remote control, wireless microphone
> management, and so on.  Wine doesn't work for most of 'em.
> 
> Audio editing in Linux is fair.  Audacity is good at what it does,
> but is not a real DAW. Ardour is kinda tricky and picky but is
> quite capable.
> 
> Video editing in Linux is not so great.  Cinelerra is the best
> I've found so far - clumsy, picky, and hard to use. Avid and
> FinalCutPro from 20 years ago was better.  I haven't use either in
> more than a decade so I don't know how those two are now - but I
> do miss FinalCutPro version 2 when I want to edit video.
> 
> Almost any Linux will be no more trouble than Apple or
> Microsoft.  Just different - and much more "within your control".
> 
>> I NEVER upgrade an OS if I can help it. All you're doing is
>> bringing bits of the old OS along which at best gives you a
>> mish-mosh of stuff and at worst sets you up for misery.
> 
> I think that is a description of Win10!!  The control prefs are
> such a pain.  New names for the same control.  Access path seems
> to be different every time I use it., control some stuff from
> here, some from there, some from dialogs from Win7, some from
> WinXP - maybe even some from Win95!
> 
> 
> ___
> http://www.okiebenz.com
> 
> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/
> 
> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
> 
> 
> ___
> http://www.okiebenz.com
> 
> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/
> 
> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
> 


___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] Windows 10 upgrade failed again

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

 Apple is downward spiraling all together, they're making products to sell more 
products rather than "thinking different". They're removal of useful ports that 
they pioneered just a couple years before is very telling. I consider removal 
of the SD card slot to be a crime against humanity.
-Curt

On Tuesday, January 7, 2020, 11:12:09 PM EST, Brian Toscano via Mercedes 
 wrote:  
 
 Macs are not what they used to be.

Years ago they were light years ahead of Microsoft but over time the two
have converged.  Microsoft has gone up and Apple has gone down.  I remember
back in 2007 or so using a neighbors printer with my Mac and he said I'd
probably have to install some device drivers, etc.  I said I'll probably
just connect the USB cable and hit print and it will print.  The printed
pages came out and he was so impressed he bought Macs for his family.  This
is why people used to say "Macs just work."

But it's just not the same anymore.  I'm sending this email from a
Microsoft Surface Pro 7 running Windows 10...  The SSD in my Mac failed
last Monday morning.  I tried to recover from Time Machine to an external
drive and it restored but would not boot.  Then I tried to upgrade the OS
on the recovery drive I was restoring to so it would be the same version as
the Time Machine, but it would not install because it did not see a factory
SSD.  I read of others having similar problems installing or upgrading Mac
OS when the factory SSD drive is not seen.

Windows is not perfect, but its trending better and macOS is trending
down...

I would try a fresh install on an empty hard drive rather than try to
upgrade from Windows 7.  Too often the spec sheet says it will work, but
it's just not a great idea even if it manages to work somehow.
___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com

  
___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] Windows 10 upgrade failed again

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

 I was going to say "we don't support video editing from a VM" but actually we 
do. Go price an nVidia Tesla v100, I'll wait...
Now you see why I don't care to edit video from a VM. ;) Plus you need a thin 
client and theres an AV offset you have to compensate for, its kind of a pain. 
Really cool for schools though, make the boot volume of the VM non-presistent 
and reboot between students, sweet.
-Curt

On Tuesday, January 7, 2020, 10:43:03 PM EST, fmiser via Mercedes 
 wrote:  
 
 > Curt wrote:

> If I didn't have specialty applications to support I'd run
> Ubuntu Linux.

I banish those specialty applications to a virtual machine.  And I
have a bunch. [sigh]  The host is GNU/Linux.  From the host
(Linux) I have good software for browser, email client, pdf
viewer, pdf creating, image/photo editing, vector graphic editing,
CAD, spreadsheet, word processing, music player, video player,
etc.  And then some programs that I rather depend on - some which
might be Linux only, like sshfs, encfs, unison, ssh, SoX, ffmpeg,
BASH, etc.

The virtual machine is for hardware specific software like audio
DSP control, audio mixer remote control, wireless microphone
management, and so on.  Wine doesn't work for most of 'em.

Audio editing in Linux is fair.  Audacity is good at what it does,
but is not a real DAW. Ardour is kinda tricky and picky but is
quite capable.

Video editing in Linux is not so great.  Cinelerra is the best
I've found so far - clumsy, picky, and hard to use. Avid and
FinalCutPro from 20 years ago was better.  I haven't use either in
more than a decade so I don't know how those two are now - but I
do miss FinalCutPro version 2 when I want to edit video.

Almost any Linux will be no more trouble than Apple or
Microsoft.  Just different - and much more "within your control".

> I NEVER upgrade an OS if I can help it. All you're doing is
> bringing bits of the old OS along which at best gives you a
> mish-mosh of stuff and at worst sets you up for misery.

I think that is a description of Win10!!  The control prefs are
such a pain.  New names for the same control.  Access path seems
to be different every time I use it., control some stuff from
here, some from there, some from dialogs from Win7, some from
WinXP - maybe even some from Win95!


___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com

  
___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] Windows 10 upgrade failed again

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

 No I meant from fresh media, by which I mean download the .iso for Win10 and 
use Rufus to make a boot disk.
Going to fresh media is a good idea too.
-Curt

On Tuesday, January 7, 2020, 7:31:21 PM EST, Max Dillon via Mercedes 
 wrote:  
 
 
Do you mean "reinstall TO fresh media"?

A new SSD is cheap compared to buying a whole new PC. Maybe his system can 
accept two hard drives, so he can keep his existing drive as the data disc.

Max Dillon
Charleston SC

Jan 7, 2020 7:23:29 PM Curt Raymond via Mercedes :

> If I didn't have specialty applications to support I'd run Ubuntu Linux. Its 
> stable, easy to use, easy to install and comes with a bunch of productivity 
> stuff built right in.
> Kaleb needs to back up his data and reinstall Windows from fresh media. I 
> NEVER upgrade an OS if I can help it. All you're doing is bringing bits of 
> the old OS along which at best gives you a mish-mosh of stuff and at worst 
> sets you up for misery.
> 
> -Curt
> 
> On Tuesday, January 7, 2020, 5:57:04 PM EST, OK Don via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Or he could buy another PC. After reading all the tooth gnashing and
> grumbling about the Macs on this list, it just confirms for me that there
> is no perfect system. I've (knocking on wood) had very little trouble with
> Microsoft's OS's, including the hated and reviled ones. I built the "image"
> for and supported over 8000 PC's when I was working last ...
> Given that Microsoft supports way more hardware and configurations than
> Apple's closed system, they do a very good job. Most issues like Kaleb's
> are self-inflicted, or the result of dying hardware.
> 
> 
> On Tue, Jan 7, 2020 at 4:43 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
> 
> > Buy a Mac. You’ve already burned so many calories on this it’s not funny.
> > 
> > -D
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > > On Jan 7, 2020, at 5:39 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
> > > 
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> > 
> > > 
> > > Attached 
> > > 
> > > Sent from my iPhone
> > > 
> > > 
> > > > On Jan 7, 2020, at 4:31 PM, Kaleb Striplin  wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > Where would I find the log? I went into event viewer and there are
> > > > 
> > > 
> > several categories? What sort of thing would I be looking for? It’s the
> > same error as before which I attached. I did notice on device manager there
> > was some sort of pci simple communication controller that that has yellow
> > triangle and said drivers not installed correctly. I tried update driver
> > but nothing. I am going to disable it and try the upgrade again.
> > 
> > > 
> > > > 
> > > > Sent from my iPhone
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > > On Jan 6, 2020, at 5:18 PM, ROGER HALE via Mercedes <
> > > > > 
> > > > 
> > > 
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> > 
> > > 
> > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > Kaleb,
> > > > > What was the error code this time? And please look for a log file for
> > > > > 
> > > > 
> > > 
> > more specifics. I'll bet when you find the cause it is something simple.
> > Do you have any "strange apps" that Win10 needs to make compatible from
> > Win7? Take everything out of your startup folder and retry. You might
> > also go to Task Mgr. and look for any odd services that my be running. We
> > have all added lots of things to our PCs and hope that Windows will be
> > happy with them. Remember Win 3 that had all the DLL problems caused by
> > outside vendors and their Apps. It's always easier to blame MS than to
> > blame ourselves.
> > 
> > > 
> > > > 
> > > > > Good luck,
> > > > > Roger
> > > > > Roger Hale
> > > > > Dinnerware Classics, Inc.
> > > > > Monroe, Ga.
> > > > > 770-267-0850
> > > > > www.dinnerwareclassics.com
> > > > > ___
> > > > > http://www.okiebenz.com
> > > > > 
> > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/
> > > > > 
> > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
> > > > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > 
> > > ___
> > > http://www.okiebenz.com
> > > 
> > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/
> > > 
> > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
> > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
> > > 
> > > 
> > 
> > 
> > ___
> > http://www.okiebenz.com
> > 
> > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/
> > 
> > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
> > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
> > 
> > 
> > 
> 
> -- 
> OK Don
> 
> "Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to
> pause and reflect." Mark Twain
> 
> "There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who
> learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence
> for themselves."
> 
> WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers*
> 2013 F150, 18 mpg
> 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg
> 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but 

Re: [MBZ] Windows 10 upgrade failed again

[ROGER HALE via Mercedes]

Kaleb,
I sent you some file attachments, but neither my email or the files seem to 
have made it through to you.  If you get them, try the Upgrade Assistant 
(original).  It was good at finding and showing actual reasons that your PC is 
not ready for an upgrade.  It was the reason I found out that one of my Vostros 
needed a BIOS upgrade first.
And for the other naysayers, I've always upgraded because it keeps all my 
settings and I don't have to waste time creating them again.  Also, I first 
used Macs in the early 90s.  They had HD controller problems and other issues.  
Yes they had good graphics, but...   We all like what we use.  I just don't use 
odd or non mainstream APPs.  Not worth the OS problems they can cause.
Again, good luck,
Roger
Roger Hale
Dinnerware Classics, Inc.
Monroe, Ga.
770-267-0850
www.dinnerwareclassics.com
___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] Windows 10 upgrade failed again

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Tue, 7 Jan 2020 21:42:03 -0600 fmiser via Mercedes
 wrote:

> > Curt wrote:
> 
> > If I didn't have specialty applications to support I'd run
> > Ubuntu Linux.
> 
> I banish those specialty applications to a virtual machine.  And I
> have a bunch. [sigh]  The host is GNU/Linux.  From the host (Linux) I
> have good software for browser, email client, pdf viewer, pdf creating,
> image/photo editing, vector graphic editing, CAD, spreadsheet, word
> processing, music player, video player, etc.  And then some programs
> that I rather depend on - some which might be Linux only, like sshfs,
> encfs, unison, ssh, SoX, ffmpeg, BASH, etc.

Are your "browser, email client, pdf viewer, pdf creating, image/photo
editing, vector graphic editing, CAD, spreadsheet, word processing, music
player, video player" all on Linux, or are some of the virtual machines
for that?

If those are on Linux, which programs do you use for them?


Some things I had not heard of before:

 In computing, SSHFS (SSH Filesystem) is a filesystem client to mount
 and interact with directories and files located on a remote server or
 workstation over a normal ssh connection. The client interacts with
 the remote file system via the SSH File Transfer Protocol (SFTP), a
 network protocol providing file access, file transfer, and file
 management functionality over any reliable data stream that was
 designed as an extension of the Secure Shell protocol (SSH) version
 2.0.

 EncFS provides an encrypted filesystem in user-space. It runs without
 any special permissions and uses the FUSE library and Linux kernel
 module to provide the filesystem interface. It is a pass-through
 filesystem, not an encrypted block device, which means it is created
 on top of an  existing filesystem. 

 Unison is a file-synchronization tool for OSX, Unix, and Windows. It
 allows two replicas of a collection of files and directories to be
 stored on different hosts (or different disks on the same host),
 modified separately, and then brought up to date by propagating the
 changes in each replica to the other.



> > I NEVER upgrade an OS if I can help it. All you're doing is
> > bringing bits of the old OS along which at best gives you a
> > mish-mosh of stuff and at worst sets you up for misery.
>
> I think that is a description of Win10!!  The control prefs are
> such a pain.   New names for the same control.  Access path seems
> to be different every time I use it., control some stuff from
> here, some from there, some from dialogs from Win7, some from
> WinXP - maybe even some from Win95!

Makes me want to jump right into Win10 from Win7!  NOT!


Craig

___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] Windows 10 upgrade failed again

[Brian Toscano via Mercedes]

Macs are not what they used to be.

Years ago they were light years ahead of Microsoft but over time the two
have converged.  Microsoft has gone up and Apple has gone down.  I remember
back in 2007 or so using a neighbors printer with my Mac and he said I'd
probably have to install some device drivers, etc.  I said I'll probably
just connect the USB cable and hit print and it will print.  The printed
pages came out and he was so impressed he bought Macs for his family.  This
is why people used to say "Macs just work."

But it's just not the same anymore.  I'm sending this email from a
Microsoft Surface Pro 7 running Windows 10...  The SSD in my Mac failed
last Monday morning.  I tried to recover from Time Machine to an external
drive and it restored but would not boot.  Then I tried to upgrade the OS
on the recovery drive I was restoring to so it would be the same version as
the Time Machine, but it would not install because it did not see a factory
SSD.  I read of others having similar problems installing or upgrading Mac
OS when the factory SSD drive is not seen.

Windows is not perfect, but its trending better and macOS is trending
down...

I would try a fresh install on an empty hard drive rather than try to
upgrade from Windows 7.  Too often the spec sheet says it will work, but
it's just not a great idea even if it manages to work somehow.
___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] Windows 10 upgrade failed again

[fmiser via Mercedes]

> Curt wrote:

> If I didn't have specialty applications to support I'd run
> Ubuntu Linux.

I banish those specialty applications to a virtual machine.  And I
have a bunch. [sigh]  The host is GNU/Linux.  From the host
(Linux) I have good software for browser, email client, pdf
viewer, pdf creating, image/photo editing, vector graphic editing,
CAD, spreadsheet, word processing, music player, video player,
etc.  And then some programs that I rather depend on - some which
might be Linux only, like sshfs, encfs, unison, ssh, SoX, ffmpeg,
BASH, etc.

The virtual machine is for hardware specific software like audio
DSP control, audio mixer remote control, wireless microphone
management, and so on.  Wine doesn't work for most of 'em.

Audio editing in Linux is fair.  Audacity is good at what it does,
but is not a real DAW. Ardour is kinda tricky and picky but is
quite capable.

Video editing in Linux is not so great.  Cinelerra is the best
I've found so far - clumsy, picky, and hard to use. Avid and
FinalCutPro from 20 years ago was better.  I haven't use either in
more than a decade so I don't know how those two are now - but I
do miss FinalCutPro version 2 when I want to edit video.

Almost any Linux will be no more trouble than Apple or
Microsoft.  Just different - and much more "within your control".

> I NEVER upgrade an OS if I can help it. All you're doing is
> bringing bits of the old OS along which at best gives you a
> mish-mosh of stuff and at worst sets you up for misery.

I think that is a description of Win10!!  The control prefs are
such a pain.   New names for the same control.  Access path seems
to be different every time I use it., control some stuff from
here, some from there, some from dialogs from Win7, some from
WinXP - maybe even some from Win95!


___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] Windows 10 upgrade failed again

[fmiser via Mercedes]

> Dan wrote:

> Buy a Mac. You’ve already burned so many calories on this it’s
> not funny.

Apple is even worse when it comes to forced upgrades...

___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] Windows 10 upgrade failed again

[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

Do you mean "reinstall TO fresh media"?

A new SSD is cheap compared to buying a whole new PC. Maybe his system can 
accept two hard drives, so he can keep his existing drive as the data disc.

Max Dillon
Charleston SC

Jan 7, 2020 7:23:29 PM Curt Raymond via Mercedes :

> If I didn't have specialty applications to support I'd run Ubuntu Linux. Its 
> stable, easy to use, easy to install and comes with a bunch of productivity 
> stuff built right in.
> Kaleb needs to back up his data and reinstall Windows from fresh media. I 
> NEVER upgrade an OS if I can help it. All you're doing is bringing bits of 
> the old OS along which at best gives you a mish-mosh of stuff and at worst 
> sets you up for misery.
> 
> -Curt
> 
> On Tuesday, January 7, 2020, 5:57:04 PM EST, OK Don via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Or he could buy another PC. After reading all the tooth gnashing and
> grumbling about the Macs on this list, it just confirms for me that there
> is no perfect system. I've (knocking on wood) had very little trouble with
> Microsoft's OS's, including the hated and reviled ones. I built the "image"
> for and supported over 8000 PC's when I was working last ...
> Given that Microsoft supports way more hardware and configurations than
> Apple's closed system, they do a very good job. Most issues like Kaleb's
> are self-inflicted, or the result of dying hardware.
> 
> 
> On Tue, Jan 7, 2020 at 4:43 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
> 
> > Buy a Mac. You’ve already burned so many calories on this it’s not funny.
> > 
> > -D
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > > On Jan 7, 2020, at 5:39 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
> > > 
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> > 
> > > 
> > > Attached 
> > > 
> > > Sent from my iPhone
> > > 
> > > 
> > > > On Jan 7, 2020, at 4:31 PM, Kaleb Striplin  wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > Where would I find the log? I went into event viewer and there are
> > > > 
> > > 
> > several categories? What sort of thing would I be looking for? It’s the
> > same error as before which I attached. I did notice on device manager there
> > was some sort of pci simple communication controller that that has yellow
> > triangle and said drivers not installed correctly. I tried update driver
> > but nothing. I am going to disable it and try the upgrade again.
> > 
> > > 
> > > > 
> > > > Sent from my iPhone
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > > On Jan 6, 2020, at 5:18 PM, ROGER HALE via Mercedes <
> > > > > 
> > > > 
> > > 
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> > 
> > > 
> > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > Kaleb,
> > > > > What was the error code this time? And please look for a log file for
> > > > > 
> > > > 
> > > 
> > more specifics. I'll bet when you find the cause it is something simple.
> > Do you have any "strange apps" that Win10 needs to make compatible from
> > Win7? Take everything out of your startup folder and retry. You might
> > also go to Task Mgr. and look for any odd services that my be running. We
> > have all added lots of things to our PCs and hope that Windows will be
> > happy with them. Remember Win 3 that had all the DLL problems caused by
> > outside vendors and their Apps. It's always easier to blame MS than to
> > blame ourselves.
> > 
> > > 
> > > > 
> > > > > Good luck,
> > > > > Roger
> > > > > Roger Hale
> > > > > Dinnerware Classics, Inc.
> > > > > Monroe, Ga.
> > > > > 770-267-0850
> > > > > www.dinnerwareclassics.com
> > > > > ___
> > > > > http://www.okiebenz.com
> > > > > 
> > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/
> > > > > 
> > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
> > > > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > 
> > > ___
> > > http://www.okiebenz.com
> > > 
> > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/
> > > 
> > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
> > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
> > > 
> > > 
> > 
> > 
> > ___
> > http://www.okiebenz.com
> > 
> > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/
> > 
> > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
> > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
> > 
> > 
> > 
> 
> -- 
> OK Don
> 
> "Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to
> pause and reflect." Mark Twain
> 
> "There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who
> learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence
> for themselves."
> 
> WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers*
> 2013 F150, 18 mpg
> 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg
> 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph!
> ___
> http://www.okiebenz.com
> 
> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/
> 
> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
> 

Re: [MBZ] Windows 10 upgrade failed again

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Agreed on both counts.

I use several different distros of Ubuntu at work for security tools. Rock 
solid OS, easy to work with, plays nice with just about everything.

-D

> On Jan 7, 2020, at 7:22 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> If I didn't have specialty applications to support I'd run Ubuntu Linux. Its 
> stable, easy to use, easy to install and comes with a bunch of productivity 
> stuff built right in.
> Kaleb needs to back up his data and reinstall Windows from fresh media. I 
> NEVER upgrade an OS if I can help it. All you're doing is bringing bits of 
> the old OS along which at best gives you a mish-mosh of stuff and at worst 
> sets you up for misery.
> 
> -Curt
> 
>On Tuesday, January 7, 2020, 5:57:04 PM EST, OK Don via Mercedes 
>  wrote:  
> 
> Or he could buy another PC. After reading all the tooth gnashing and
> grumbling about the Macs on this list, it just confirms for me that there
> is no perfect system. I've (knocking on wood) had very little trouble with
> Microsoft's OS's, including the hated and reviled ones. I built the "image"
> for and supported over 8000 PC's when I was working last ...
> Given that Microsoft supports way more hardware and configurations than
> Apple's closed system, they do a very good job. Most issues like Kaleb's
> are self-inflicted, or the result of dying hardware.
> 
> 
> On Tue, Jan 7, 2020 at 4:43 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> Buy a Mac. You’ve already burned so many calories on this it’s not funny.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>> 
>>> On Jan 7, 2020, at 5:39 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Attached 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On Jan 7, 2020, at 4:31 PM, Kaleb Striplin  wrote:
 
 Where would I find the log? I went into event viewer and there are
>> several categories? What sort of thing would I be looking for? It’s the
>> same error as before which I attached. I did notice on device manager there
>> was some sort of pci simple communication controller that that has yellow
>> triangle and said drivers not installed correctly. I tried update driver
>> but nothing. I am going to disable it and try the upgrade again.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
> On Jan 6, 2020, at 5:18 PM, ROGER HALE via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
> Kaleb,
> What was the error code this time?  And please look for a log file for
>> more specifics.  I'll bet when you find the cause it is something simple.
>> Do you have any "strange apps" that Win10 needs to make compatible from
>> Win7?  Take everything out of your startup folder and retry.  You might
>> also go to Task Mgr. and look for any odd services that my be running.  We
>> have all added lots of things to our PCs and hope that Windows will be
>> happy with them.  Remember Win 3 that had all the DLL problems caused by
>> outside vendors and their Apps.  It's always easier to blame MS than to
>> blame ourselves.
> Good luck,
> Roger
> Roger Hale
> Dinnerware Classics, Inc.
> Monroe, Ga.
> 770-267-0850
> www.dinnerwareclassics.com
> ___
> http://www.okiebenz.com
> 
> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/
> 
> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
> 
>>> ___
>>> http://www.okiebenz.com
>>> 
>>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/
>>> 
>>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
>>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
>>> 
>> 
>> 
>> ___
>> http://www.okiebenz.com
>> 
>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/
>> 
>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
>> 
>> 
> 
> -- 
> OK Don
> 
> "Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to
> pause and reflect." Mark Twain
> 
> "There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who
> learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence
> for themselves."
> 
> WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers*
> 2013 F150, 18 mpg
> 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg
> 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph!
> ___
> http://www.okiebenz.com
> 
> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/
> 
> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
> 
> 
> ___
> http://www.okiebenz.com
> 
> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/
> 
> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
> 


___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list 

Re: [MBZ] Windows 10 upgrade failed again

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

 If I didn't have specialty applications to support I'd run Ubuntu Linux. Its 
stable, easy to use, easy to install and comes with a bunch of productivity 
stuff built right in.
Kaleb needs to back up his data and reinstall Windows from fresh media. I NEVER 
upgrade an OS if I can help it. All you're doing is bringing bits of the old OS 
along which at best gives you a mish-mosh of stuff and at worst sets you up for 
misery.

-Curt

On Tuesday, January 7, 2020, 5:57:04 PM EST, OK Don via Mercedes 
 wrote:  
 
 Or he could buy another PC. After reading all the tooth gnashing and
grumbling about the Macs on this list, it just confirms for me that there
is no perfect system. I've (knocking on wood) had very little trouble with
Microsoft's OS's, including the hated and reviled ones. I built the "image"
for and supported over 8000 PC's when I was working last ...
Given that Microsoft supports way more hardware and configurations than
Apple's closed system, they do a very good job. Most issues like Kaleb's
are self-inflicted, or the result of dying hardware.


On Tue, Jan 7, 2020 at 4:43 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Buy a Mac. You’ve already burned so many calories on this it’s not funny.
>
> -D
>
>
> > On Jan 7, 2020, at 5:39 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > Attached 
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> >> On Jan 7, 2020, at 4:31 PM, Kaleb Striplin  wrote:
> >>
> >> Where would I find the log? I went into event viewer and there are
> several categories? What sort of thing would I be looking for? It’s the
> same error as before which I attached. I did notice on device manager there
> was some sort of pci simple communication controller that that has yellow
> triangle and said drivers not installed correctly. I tried update driver
> but nothing. I am going to disable it and try the upgrade again.
> >>
> >> Sent from my iPhone
> >>
> >>> On Jan 6, 2020, at 5:18 PM, ROGER HALE via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Kaleb,
> >>> What was the error code this time?  And please look for a log file for
> more specifics.  I'll bet when you find the cause it is something simple.
> Do you have any "strange apps" that Win10 needs to make compatible from
> Win7?  Take everything out of your startup folder and retry.  You might
> also go to Task Mgr. and look for any odd services that my be running.  We
> have all added lots of things to our PCs and hope that Windows will be
> happy with them.  Remember Win 3 that had all the DLL problems caused by
> outside vendors and their Apps.  It's always easier to blame MS than to
> blame ourselves.
> >>> Good luck,
> >>> Roger
> >>> Roger Hale
> >>> Dinnerware Classics, Inc.
> >>> Monroe, Ga.
> >>> 770-267-0850
> >>> www.dinnerwareclassics.com
> >>> ___
> >>> http://www.okiebenz.com
> >>>
> >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/
> >>>
> >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
> >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
> >>>
> > ___
> > http://www.okiebenz.com
> >
> > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/
> >
> > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
> > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
> >
>
>
> ___
> http://www.okiebenz.com
>
> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/
>
> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
>
>

-- 
OK Don

"Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to
pause and reflect." Mark Twain

"There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who
learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence
for themselves."

WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers*
2013 F150, 18 mpg
2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg
1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph!
___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com

  
___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] Windows 10 upgrade failed again

[M. Mitchell Marmel via Mercedes]

Personally, I'd stick with Win7.  The computer seems to prefer it.  :)
___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] Windows 10 upgrade failed again

[OK Don via Mercedes]

Or he could buy another PC. After reading all the tooth gnashing and
grumbling about the Macs on this list, it just confirms for me that there
is no perfect system. I've (knocking on wood) had very little trouble with
Microsoft's OS's, including the hated and reviled ones. I built the "image"
for and supported over 8000 PC's when I was working last ...
Given that Microsoft supports way more hardware and configurations than
Apple's closed system, they do a very good job. Most issues like Kaleb's
are self-inflicted, or the result of dying hardware.


On Tue, Jan 7, 2020 at 4:43 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Buy a Mac. You’ve already burned so many calories on this it’s not funny.
>
> -D
>
>
> > On Jan 7, 2020, at 5:39 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > Attached 
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> >> On Jan 7, 2020, at 4:31 PM, Kaleb Striplin  wrote:
> >>
> >> Where would I find the log? I went into event viewer and there are
> several categories? What sort of thing would I be looking for? It’s the
> same error as before which I attached. I did notice on device manager there
> was some sort of pci simple communication controller that that has yellow
> triangle and said drivers not installed correctly. I tried update driver
> but nothing. I am going to disable it and try the upgrade again.
> >>
> >> Sent from my iPhone
> >>
> >>> On Jan 6, 2020, at 5:18 PM, ROGER HALE via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Kaleb,
> >>> What was the error code this time?  And please look for a log file for
> more specifics.  I'll bet when you find the cause it is something simple.
> Do you have any "strange apps" that Win10 needs to make compatible from
> Win7?  Take everything out of your startup folder and retry.  You might
> also go to Task Mgr. and look for any odd services that my be running.  We
> have all added lots of things to our PCs and hope that Windows will be
> happy with them.  Remember Win 3 that had all the DLL problems caused by
> outside vendors and their Apps.  It's always easier to blame MS than to
> blame ourselves.
> >>> Good luck,
> >>> Roger
> >>> Roger Hale
> >>> Dinnerware Classics, Inc.
> >>> Monroe, Ga.
> >>> 770-267-0850
> >>> www.dinnerwareclassics.com
> >>> ___
> >>> http://www.okiebenz.com
> >>>
> >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/
> >>>
> >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
> >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
> >>>
> > ___
> > http://www.okiebenz.com
> >
> > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/
> >
> > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
> > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
> >
>
>
> ___
> http://www.okiebenz.com
>
> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/
>
> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
>
>

-- 
OK Don

"Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to
pause and reflect." Mark Twain

"There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who
learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence
for themselves."

WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers*
2013 F150, 18 mpg
2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg
1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph!
___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] Windows 10 upgrade failed again

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Buy a Mac. You’ve already burned so many calories on this it’s not funny.

-D


> On Jan 7, 2020, at 5:39 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Attached 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jan 7, 2020, at 4:31 PM, Kaleb Striplin  wrote:
>> 
>> Where would I find the log? I went into event viewer and there are several 
>> categories? What sort of thing would I be looking for? It’s the same error 
>> as before which I attached. I did notice on device manager there was some 
>> sort of pci simple communication controller that that has yellow triangle 
>> and said drivers not installed correctly. I tried update driver but nothing. 
>> I am going to disable it and try the upgrade again.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Jan 6, 2020, at 5:18 PM, ROGER HALE via Mercedes  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Kaleb,
>>> What was the error code this time?  And please look for a log file for more 
>>> specifics.  I'll bet when you find the cause it is something simple.  Do 
>>> you have any "strange apps" that Win10 needs to make compatible from Win7?  
>>> Take everything out of your startup folder and retry.  You might also go to 
>>> Task Mgr. and look for any odd services that my be running.  We have all 
>>> added lots of things to our PCs and hope that Windows will be happy with 
>>> them.  Remember Win 3 that had all the DLL problems caused by outside 
>>> vendors and their Apps.  It's always easier to blame MS than to blame 
>>> ourselves.
>>> Good luck,
>>> Roger
>>> Roger Hale
>>> Dinnerware Classics, Inc.
>>> Monroe, Ga.
>>> 770-267-0850
>>> www.dinnerwareclassics.com
>>> ___
>>> http://www.okiebenz.com
>>> 
>>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/
>>> 
>>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
>>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
>>> 
> ___
> http://www.okiebenz.com
> 
> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/
> 
> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
> 


___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] Windows 10 upgrade failed again

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

Attached 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 7, 2020, at 4:31 PM, Kaleb Striplin  wrote:
> 
> Where would I find the log? I went into event viewer and there are several 
> categories? What sort of thing would I be looking for? It’s the same error as 
> before which I attached. I did notice on device manager there was some sort 
> of pci simple communication controller that that has yellow triangle and said 
> drivers not installed correctly. I tried update driver but nothing. I am 
> going to disable it and try the upgrade again.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jan 6, 2020, at 5:18 PM, ROGER HALE via Mercedes  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Kaleb,
>> What was the error code this time?  And please look for a log file for more 
>> specifics.  I'll bet when you find the cause it is something simple.  Do you 
>> have any "strange apps" that Win10 needs to make compatible from Win7?  Take 
>> everything out of your startup folder and retry.  You might also go to Task 
>> Mgr. and look for any odd services that my be running.  We have all added 
>> lots of things to our PCs and hope that Windows will be happy with them.  
>> Remember Win 3 that had all the DLL problems caused by outside vendors and 
>> their Apps.  It's always easier to blame MS than to blame ourselves.
>> Good luck,
>> Roger
>> Roger Hale
>> Dinnerware Classics, Inc.
>> Monroe, Ga.
>> 770-267-0850
>> www.dinnerwareclassics.com
>> ___
>> http://www.okiebenz.com
>> 
>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/
>> 
>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
>> 
___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] Windows 10 upgrade failed again

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

Where would I find the log? I went into event viewer and there are several 
categories? What sort of thing would I be looking for? It’s the same error as 
before which I attached. I did notice on device manager there was some sort of 
pci simple communication controller that that has yellow triangle and said 
drivers not installed correctly. I tried update driver but nothing. I am going 
to disable it and try the upgrade again.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 6, 2020, at 5:18 PM, ROGER HALE via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Kaleb,
> What was the error code this time?  And please look for a log file for more 
> specifics.  I'll bet when you find the cause it is something simple.  Do you 
> have any "strange apps" that Win10 needs to make compatible from Win7?  Take 
> everything out of your startup folder and retry.  You might also go to Task 
> Mgr. and look for any odd services that my be running.  We have all added 
> lots of things to our PCs and hope that Windows will be happy with them.  
> Remember Win 3 that had all the DLL problems caused by outside vendors and 
> their Apps.  It's always easier to blame MS than to blame ourselves.
> Good luck,
> Roger
> Roger Hale
> Dinnerware Classics, Inc.
> Monroe, Ga.
> 770-267-0850
> www.dinnerwareclassics.com
> ___
> http://www.okiebenz.com
> 
> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/
> 
> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
> 


___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] Windows 10 upgrade failed again

[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

Just did it, worked perfectly. Nice, I've got win 10 using 64 but and 
recognizing all 8 GB RAM. Next is install software and restore date files, etc.

Are you trying a clean install, or upgrade with keeping your files / data etc.?

Max Dillon
Charleston SC

Jan 6, 2020 4:50:13 PM Meade Dillon :

> Try this, if you have a spare hard drive so you can keep the old and not lose 
> your data.
> 
> Download the clean installation from here:   
> https://www.microsoft.com/en-ca/software-download/windows10 
> [https://www.microsoft.com/en-ca/software-download/windows10]   
> Install a clean version, and when you connect to internet and it asks for the 
> key, use your Win7 key. Buddy told me that's how he did it, worked fine.
> 
> I'm going to try this with my factory installed win 7 pro key.
> -
> Max
> Charleston SC
> 
> 
> On Mon, Jan 6, 2020 at 4:38 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes < 
> mercedes@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com] > wrote:
> 
> > After installing all windows 7 updates available and I have no av software 
> > running I ran the upgrade again. Failed again.
> > 
> > Sent from my iPhone
> > 
> > ___
> > http://www.okiebenz.com [http://www.okiebenz.com] 
> > 
> > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ 
> > [http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/] 
> > 
> > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
> > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com 
> > [http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com] 
> > 
> > 
> 


___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] Windows 10 upgrade failed again

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

Try this, if you have a spare hard drive so you can keep the old and not
lose your data.

Download the clean installation from here:
https://www.microsoft.com/en-ca/software-download/windows10

Install a clean version, and when you connect to internet and it asks for
the key, use your Win7 key.  Buddy told me that's how he did it, worked
fine.

I'm going to try this with my factory installed win 7 pro key.
-
Max
Charleston SC


On Mon, Jan 6, 2020 at 4:38 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> After installing all windows 7 updates available and I have no av software
> running I ran the upgrade again. Failed again.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> ___
> http://www.okiebenz.com
>
> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/
>
> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
>
>
___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] Windows 10 upgrade on PC

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Sun, 5 Jan 2020 10:45:45 -0600 Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
 wrote:

> I found info on the windows 7 update error which walked me thru
> stopping serviced renaming some files, doing some other command prompt
> items then restarting. It’s now checking for updates. It’s possible no
> updates have been running on this machine for a while. 

There was an update last year (I don't recall when) which required you to
do it then or you would not get future updates.

I don't know why M$ makes it so hard to keep a computer updated. There
should be a limited number of software configurations for a properly
updated, running computer, but they seem to want to start from scratch
every time.


Craig

___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] Windows 10 upgrade on PC

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

I found info on the windows 7 update error which walked me thru stopping 
serviced renaming some files, doing some other command prompt items then 
restarting. It’s now checking for updates. It’s possible no updates have been 
running on this machine for a while. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 5, 2020, at 9:51 AM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I will have to check. I do know I have a windows 7 update issue. When I go 
> to check for updates it gives me red error and can’t do it. I need to work 
> that one out too, might be related. 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jan 5, 2020, at 9:49 AM, ROGER HALE via Mercedes  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Kaleb,
>> I may have missed it before, but can you tell me what the pc is that you are 
>> upgrading?  For example, maker/model, processor, mem amt. and type, HD and 
>> free space, etc.  Also, have you checked that you have the latest Win7 OS 
>> upgrades and that your BIOS is current.  Also, I would suggest removing any 
>> odd cards that may be in the PC.  There maybe be something like the BIOS 
>> issue I had on my old Vostro 200.  There are some processor features that 
>> Win10 requires be turned on that Win7 did not care about.  Once I upgraded 
>> my BIOS on the Vostro, the upgrade flew right through.
>> Good Luck,
>> Roger
>> Roger Hale
>> Dinnerware Classics, Inc.
>> Monroe, Ga.
>> 770-267-0850
>> www.dinnerwareclassics.com
>> ___
>> http://www.okiebenz.com
>> 
>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/
>> 
>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
>> 
> 
> 
> ___
> http://www.okiebenz.com
> 
> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/
> 
> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
> 


___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] Windows 10 upgrade on PC

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

I will have to check. I do know I have a windows 7 update issue. When I go to 
check for updates it gives me red error and can’t do it. I need to work that 
one out too, might be related. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 5, 2020, at 9:49 AM, ROGER HALE via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Kaleb,
> I may have missed it before, but can you tell me what the pc is that you are 
> upgrading?  For example, maker/model, processor, mem amt. and type, HD and 
> free space, etc.  Also, have you checked that you have the latest Win7 OS 
> upgrades and that your BIOS is current.  Also, I would suggest removing any 
> odd cards that may be in the PC.  There maybe be something like the BIOS 
> issue I had on my old Vostro 200.  There are some processor features that 
> Win10 requires be turned on that Win7 did not care about.  Once I upgraded my 
> BIOS on the Vostro, the upgrade flew right through.
> Good Luck,
> Roger
> Roger Hale
> Dinnerware Classics, Inc.
> Monroe, Ga.
> 770-267-0850
> www.dinnerwareclassics.com
> ___
> http://www.okiebenz.com
> 
> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/
> 
> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
> 


___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] Windows 10 upgrade on PC

[ROGER HALE via Mercedes]

Kaleb,
I may have missed it before, but can you tell me what the pc is that you are 
upgrading?  For example, maker/model, processor, mem amt. and type, HD and free 
space, etc.  Also, have you checked that you have the latest Win7 OS upgrades 
and that your BIOS is current.  Also, I would suggest removing any odd cards 
that may be in the PC.  There maybe be something like the BIOS issue I had on 
my old Vostro 200.  There are some processor features that Win10 requires be 
turned on that Win7 did not care about.  Once I upgraded my BIOS on the Vostro, 
the upgrade flew right through.
Good Luck,
Roger
Roger Hale
Dinnerware Classics, Inc.
Monroe, Ga.
770-267-0850
www.dinnerwareclassics.com
___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] Windows 10 Upgrade

[Rick Knoble via Mercedes]

Craig inquires:

>Is that correct?

I believe so. I'm going to see if I can find a decent tablet tutorial so Randy 
can change his email signature on his tablet, if he so desires. 

Rick


___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] Windows 10 upgrade on PC

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

After uninstalling windows security essentials and trying it again it still 
failed. I might mess with it some more tomorrow 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 4, 2020, at 6:08 PM, ROGER HALE via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Kaleb, look at this link...
> 
> https://www.thewindowsclub.com/windows-10-update-keeps-failing-0x8007001f-0x20006
> 
> Did you turn off your virus software?  Clear any cache?
> Good Luck,
> Roger
> Roger Hale
> Dinnerware Classics, Inc.
> Monroe, Ga.
> 770-267-0850
> www.dinnerwareclassics.com
> ___
> http://www.okiebenz.com
> 
> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/
> 
> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
> 


___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] windows 10 upgrade on PC

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Get a Mac.

-D writing this on an 11 year old Mac Pro


> On Jan 4, 2020, at 4:42 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> What what I read looks like it could be something with an antivirus program. 
> Only thing that was running on this machine was the Microsoft security 
> essentials. During the install it says something about it not being 
> compatible so I disabled it. On 2nd attempt it said same thing. I just 
> installed it and will try it again and see what happens.
> 
> It looks like it installs 10 but then does updates which fail so it reverts 
> back.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jan 4, 2020, at 3:21 PM, Kaleb Striplin  wrote:
>> 
>> Failed again, this is what I get
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Jan 4, 2020, at 2:12 PM, Kaleb Striplin  wrote:
>>> 
>>> The install is running now. Will update when it’s finished.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
> On Jan 4, 2020, at 2:07 PM, ROGER HALE via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
 
 Kaleb,
 Did you check for an installation or error log or event log that might 
 give you the exact cause for the load failure?  If you have Ultimate, you 
 will end up with Win10 Pro, not Ultimate.  Are you certain that your Win7 
 ultimate product key is a valid key?  I ordered a thumb drive from a guy 
 on eBay that will install Win10 or do fixes to existing installs of Win10 
 (I think it was around $11).  If you can get Win10 installed, go to a junk 
 computer store or Goodwill and copy the product key off a box and use it.  
 MS will take the valid key and give you a new digital key.  I have a 
 Dell460 that I got last summer, supposed to have Win10Pro but it was Win10 
 Enterprise without a valid product key.  Since I can't get a valid key, I 
 may just do a Win10 Pro upgrade on it to make it valid.
 You need to find out specifically what is blocking the upgrade.  As I said 
 before, it could be the need for a BIOS upgrade as it will prevent the 
 upgrade also.
 Good luck,
 Roger
 Roger Hale
 Dinnerware Classics, Inc.
 Monroe, Ga.
 770-267-0850
 www.dinnerwareclassics.com
 ___
 http://www.okiebenz.com
 
 To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/
 
 To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
 http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
 
>>> 
> 
> 
> ___
> http://www.okiebenz.com
> 
> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/
> 
> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
> 


___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] windows 10 upgrade on PC

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

or switch to something like ubuntu.


G Mann via Mercedes 
January 4, 2020 at 1:16 PM
Kaleb,
Reboot your win 7 computer to safe mode. Then find the option that 
lets you
boot it to a previous date when it ran on Win 7. [should be a list of 
saved

times when it did backups...
The earlier boot backup will have the Win 7 key and run normally... from
that, recover the key.
Win 10 wants to take over, so when it installs it wipes out the registry,
thus your Win 7 key file to take over..
I hate everything Win 10 does. Personally, I intend to run Win 7 until its
wheels fall off..
Perhaps, by then.. "Win 12 or something will work"...



___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] windows 10 upgrade on PC

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

no, just restore from backup


List Owner via Mercedes 
January 4, 2020 at 10:40 AM
Yea I have that and it shows no key activated

Microsoft - Windows 7 Ultimate (x64)    00426-065-4097422-86619 (Key: 
none activated)


Now that I think about it the install I used was some sort of 
enterprise version I got from my brother which can supposedly be 
installed on multiple computers.  I used this same install on my 
laptop that the screen when out.  I will hook it up to my monitor then 
run Belarc on it and get the key off that computer.  Wait nevermind 
that wont work because I upgraded that laptop to 10 already.  Crap.  I 
am going to have to hunt for the CD or else pay for a license.




___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] windows 10 upgrade on PC

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

restore from backup.   You did   make a backup before you started this, 
Right?   Or you have a backup from last week?


there IS a log somewhere on your machine that will have the info about 
WHY the downgrade failed.   This log will be destroyed when you restore 
from backup.





Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
January 4, 2020 at 9:27 AM
I have no idea. I have a 2 tb SSD which I just installed not long ago 
and everything was running great. It was installing and I left it 
along then came back later and it was restarting in windows 7. Just 
said installation failed and rolled back the changes. Previous to this 
I checked the properties and it said windows 7 was active and genuine. 
Now it’s as if the product key is missing and wants me to activate. I 
can’t seem to find disc I used which has the key on it. Right now it 
keeps say I need to activate now.


When I did it on my laptop it also failed the first time and rolled 
back to win 7 but did not have the missing key issue. I just ran it 
again and it took on the 2nd time/


Sent from my iPhone




___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] windows 10 upgrade on PC

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Sat, 04 Jan 2020 13:31:45 -0600 tyee165 via Mercedes
 wrote:

> Anyone save the email that had the link to the upgrade from 7 to 10? I
> could Google but thought it might be safer to use the link that a
> number of you folks said worked wellRandy who needs to upgrade a
> laptop

Is the email below the one you seek, Randy?


Craig



From: Rick Knoble via Mercedes 
To: Mercedes Discussion List 
Cc: Rick Knoble 
Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List 
Subject: [MBZ] Windows 10 Upgrade
Date: Sat, 14 Dec 2019 20:00:48 +
Sender: "Mercedes" 

Here you go.

https://www.cnet.com/how-to/upgrade-to-windows-10-free-heres-how/

https://www.zdnet.com/article/this-free-windows-10-upgrade-offer-still-works-heres-why-and-how-to-get-it/

Let us know if it works for you.


Craig

--
Present: '93 E300D/2.5 Turbo   354 kmi
 '89 Chevrolet G20 Beauville   210 kmi
 (the Big Red Van, BRV)
 '00 Kenworth W900  Helmut 943 kmi

   Past: '90 E300D/2.5 Turbo   265 kmi   RIP
 '07 Peterbilt 386  Bruno  885 kmi
 '82 240D/3.0   Bluebell   286 kmi
 '95 E320   Sebastian  135 kmi   RIP
 '94 E420   Oskar  127 kmi   RIP
 '87 Dodge Grand Caravan RIP
 '86 190E/2.3
 '72 220/8
 '61 Willys Utility Wagon
 '59 Willys Utility Wagon
 '67 Volkswagen Fastback
 '64 190Dc  Emma
 '72 220D/8 Herman 186 kmi
 '69 Lotus Europa
 '64 Alfa Romeo Turrisimo Internationale
 '59 Alfa Romeo Giulietta Spyder Veloce

___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] windows 10 upgrade on PC

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

What what I read looks like it could be something with an antivirus program. 
Only thing that was running on this machine was the Microsoft security 
essentials. During the install it says something about it not being compatible 
so I disabled it. On 2nd attempt it said same thing. I just installed it and 
will try it again and see what happens.

It looks like it installs 10 but then does updates which fail so it reverts 
back.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 4, 2020, at 3:21 PM, Kaleb Striplin  wrote:
> 
> Failed again, this is what I get
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jan 4, 2020, at 2:12 PM, Kaleb Striplin  wrote:
>> 
>> The install is running now. Will update when it’s finished.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
 On Jan 4, 2020, at 2:07 PM, ROGER HALE via Mercedes 
  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Kaleb,
>>> Did you check for an installation or error log or event log that might give 
>>> you the exact cause for the load failure?  If you have Ultimate, you will 
>>> end up with Win10 Pro, not Ultimate.  Are you certain that your Win7 
>>> ultimate product key is a valid key?  I ordered a thumb drive from a guy on 
>>> eBay that will install Win10 or do fixes to existing installs of Win10 (I 
>>> think it was around $11).  If you can get Win10 installed, go to a junk 
>>> computer store or Goodwill and copy the product key off a box and use it.  
>>> MS will take the valid key and give you a new digital key.  I have a 
>>> Dell460 that I got last summer, supposed to have Win10Pro but it was Win10 
>>> Enterprise without a valid product key.  Since I can't get a valid key, I 
>>> may just do a Win10 Pro upgrade on it to make it valid.
>>> You need to find out specifically what is blocking the upgrade.  As I said 
>>> before, it could be the need for a BIOS upgrade as it will prevent the 
>>> upgrade also.
>>> Good luck,
>>> Roger
>>> Roger Hale
>>> Dinnerware Classics, Inc.
>>> Monroe, Ga.
>>> 770-267-0850
>>> www.dinnerwareclassics.com
>>> ___
>>> http://www.okiebenz.com
>>> 
>>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/
>>> 
>>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
>>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
>>> 
>> 


___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] Windows 10 Upgrade

[Craig via Mercedes]

I think

Randy Bennell 

and 

tyee165 

are the same person, with the former address being Randy at work and the
latter being Randy at home.

Is that correct?


Craig

___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] windows 10 upgrade on PC

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

Failed again, this is what I get



Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 4, 2020, at 2:12 PM, Kaleb Striplin  wrote:
> 
> The install is running now. Will update when it’s finished.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jan 4, 2020, at 2:07 PM, ROGER HALE via Mercedes  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Kaleb,
>> Did you check for an installation or error log or event log that might give 
>> you the exact cause for the load failure?  If you have Ultimate, you will 
>> end up with Win10 Pro, not Ultimate.  Are you certain that your Win7 
>> ultimate product key is a valid key?  I ordered a thumb drive from a guy on 
>> eBay that will install Win10 or do fixes to existing installs of Win10 (I 
>> think it was around $11).  If you can get Win10 installed, go to a junk 
>> computer store or Goodwill and copy the product key off a box and use it.  
>> MS will take the valid key and give you a new digital key.  I have a Dell460 
>> that I got last summer, supposed to have Win10Pro but it was Win10 
>> Enterprise without a valid product key.  Since I can't get a valid key, I 
>> may just do a Win10 Pro upgrade on it to make it valid.
>> You need to find out specifically what is blocking the upgrade.  As I said 
>> before, it could be the need for a BIOS upgrade as it will prevent the 
>> upgrade also.
>> Good luck,
>> Roger
>> Roger Hale
>> Dinnerware Classics, Inc.
>> Monroe, Ga.
>> 770-267-0850
>> www.dinnerwareclassics.com
>> ___
>> http://www.okiebenz.com
>> 
>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/
>> 
>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
>> 
> 
___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] Windows 10 Upgrade

[tyee165 via Mercedes]

ThanksI had saved them at the office but I am at home.Sent from my Galaxy Tab® A
 Original message From: Max Dillon via Mercedes 
 Date: 2020-01-04  1:59 PM  (GMT-06:00) To: Mercedes 
Discussion List  Cc: Max Dillon  
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Windows 10 Upgrade Randy, here are the links.Max 
DillonCharleston SCDec 14, 2019 3:01:40 PM Rick Knoble via Mercedes 
:> Here you go.> > 
https://www.cnet.com/how-to/upgrade-to-windows-10-free-heres-how/> > 
https://www.zdnet.com/article/this-free-windows-10-upgrade-offer-still-works-heres-why-and-how-to-get-it/>
 > Let us know if it works for you.> > > Rick> 
___> http://www.okiebenz.com> > To search 
list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/> > To Unsubscribe or change 
delivery options go to:> 
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com> 
___http://www.okiebenz.comTo search list 
archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/To Unsubscribe or change delivery 
options go to:http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] windows 10 upgrade on PC

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

The install is running now. Will update when it’s finished.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 4, 2020, at 2:07 PM, ROGER HALE via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Kaleb,
> Did you check for an installation or error log or event log that might give 
> you the exact cause for the load failure?  If you have Ultimate, you will end 
> up with Win10 Pro, not Ultimate.  Are you certain that your Win7 ultimate 
> product key is a valid key?  I ordered a thumb drive from a guy on eBay that 
> will install Win10 or do fixes to existing installs of Win10 (I think it was 
> around $11).  If you can get Win10 installed, go to a junk computer store or 
> Goodwill and copy the product key off a box and use it.  MS will take the 
> valid key and give you a new digital key.  I have a Dell460 that I got last 
> summer, supposed to have Win10Pro but it was Win10 Enterprise without a valid 
> product key.  Since I can't get a valid key, I may just do a Win10 Pro 
> upgrade on it to make it valid.
> You need to find out specifically what is blocking the upgrade.  As I said 
> before, it could be the need for a BIOS upgrade as it will prevent the 
> upgrade also.
> Good luck,
> Roger
> Roger Hale
> Dinnerware Classics, Inc.
> Monroe, Ga.
> 770-267-0850
> www.dinnerwareclassics.com
> ___
> http://www.okiebenz.com
> 
> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/
> 
> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
> 


___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] windows 10 upgrade on PC

[ROGER HALE via Mercedes]

Kaleb,
Did you check for an installation or error log or event log that might give you 
the exact cause for the load failure?  If you have Ultimate, you will end up 
with Win10 Pro, not Ultimate.  Are you certain that your Win7 ultimate product 
key is a valid key?  I ordered a thumb drive from a guy on eBay that will 
install Win10 or do fixes to existing installs of Win10 (I think it was around 
$11).  If you can get Win10 installed, go to a junk computer store or Goodwill 
and copy the product key off a box and use it.  MS will take the valid key and 
give you a new digital key.  I have a Dell460 that I got last summer, supposed 
to have Win10Pro but it was Win10 Enterprise without a valid product key.  
Since I can't get a valid key, I may just do a Win10 Pro upgrade on it to make 
it valid.
You need to find out specifically what is blocking the upgrade.  As I said 
before, it could be the need for a BIOS upgrade as it will prevent the upgrade 
also.
Good luck,
Roger
Roger Hale
Dinnerware Classics, Inc.
Monroe, Ga.
770-267-0850
www.dinnerwareclassics.com
___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] Windows 10 Upgrade

[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

Randy, here are the links.

Max Dillon
Charleston SC

Dec 14, 2019 3:01:40 PM Rick Knoble via Mercedes :

> Here you go.
> 
> https://www.cnet.com/how-to/upgrade-to-windows-10-free-heres-how/
> 
> https://www.zdnet.com/article/this-free-windows-10-upgrade-offer-still-works-heres-why-and-how-to-get-it/
> 
> Let us know if it works for you.
> 
> 
> Rick
> ___
> http://www.okiebenz.com
> 
> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/
> 
> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
> 


___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] windows 10 upgrade on PC

[Jim Cathey via Mercedes]

> I'd like to have 64 thinking that I can use the 8 GB of RAM installed.

The 'bitness' of an OS is not a single number.  There's half a dozen ways to 
measure this,
each with different implications.  There have been any number of '32-bit' OS's 
in the past
that are quite capable of using more than 4GB of RAM.  It's just that no single 
_process_
could directly use more than 4GB unless that process was using a 64-bit address 
space.

There's a lot to be said for using 32-bit processes on a 64-bit-capable 
machine/OS.  They
tend to use memory more efficiently.  I have a small write-up:

http://formicapeak.com/~jimc/bad64 
.html

-- Jim

___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] windows 10 upgrade on PC

[tyee165 via Mercedes]

Anyone save the email that had the link to the upgrade from 7 to 10? I could 
Google but thought it might be safer to use the link that a number of you folks 
said worked wellRandy who needs to upgrade a laptopSent from my Galaxy Tab® A
 Original message From: Max Dillon via Mercedes 
 Date: 2020-01-04  12:43 PM  (GMT-06:00) To: Mercedes 
Discussion List  Cc: Max Dillon  
Subject: Re: [MBZ] windows 10 upgrade on PC  Creating the Windows 10 media on a 
USB drive, slow going so far. Creating both 32 bit and 64, I'd like to have 64 
thinking that I can use the 8 GB of RAM installed. Finished the download, 
verification in progress. Back to domestic work til this and a backup of 
current system is complete.Max DillonCharleston SCJan 4, 2020 1:13:44 PM Max 
Dillon :> > So I'm finally left alone at home with enough 
time to try the upgrade. Plan is to install a bigger faster SSD, then try to 
upgrade from Win 7 Pro to Win 10.> > I have the Pro key, but only have 
installation media (and the key) for Win 7 Home. Let's see if I can make this 
work> > > Max Dillon> Charleston SC> 
___http://www.okiebenz.comTo search list 
archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/To Unsubscribe or change delivery 
options go to:http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] windows 10 upgrade on PC

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

I bought a key for $4 If I waited a few minutes could have tried your way.

I still prefer windows 7 but have gotten used to 10. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 4, 2020, at 1:17 PM, G Mann via Mercedes  wrote:
> 
> Kaleb,
> Reboot your win 7 computer to safe mode. Then find the option that lets you
> boot it to a previous date when it ran on Win 7. [should be a list of saved
> times when it did backups...
> The earlier boot backup will have the Win 7 key and run normally... from
> that, recover the key.
> Win 10 wants to take over, so when it installs it wipes out the registry,
> thus your Win 7 key file to take over..
> I hate everything Win 10 does. Personally, I intend to run Win 7 until its
> wheels fall off..
> Perhaps, by then.. "Win 12 or something will work"...
> 
>> On Sat, Jan 4, 2020 at 11:44 AM Max Dillon via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Creating the Windows 10 media on a USB drive, slow going so far. Creating
>> both 32 bit and 64, I'd like to have 64 thinking that I can use the 8 GB of
>> RAM installed. Finished the download, verification in progress. Back to
>> domestic work til this and a backup of current system is complete.
>> 
>> Max Dillon
>> Charleston SC
>> 
>> Jan 4, 2020 1:13:44 PM Max Dillon :
>> 
>>> 
>>> So I'm finally left alone at home with enough time to try the upgrade.
>> Plan is to install a bigger faster SSD, then try to upgrade from Win 7 Pro
>> to Win 10.
>>> 
>>> I have the Pro key, but only have installation media (and the key) for
>> Win 7 Home. Let's see if I can make this work
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Max Dillon
>>> Charleston SC
>>> 
>> 
>> 
>> ___
>> http://www.okiebenz.com
>> 
>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/
>> 
>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
>> 
>> 
> ___
> http://www.okiebenz.com
> 
> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/
> 
> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
> 


___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] windows 10 upgrade on PC

[G Mann via Mercedes]

Kaleb,
Reboot your win 7 computer to safe mode. Then find the option that lets you
boot it to a previous date when it ran on Win 7. [should be a list of saved
times when it did backups...
The earlier boot backup will have the Win 7 key and run normally... from
that, recover the key.
Win 10 wants to take over, so when it installs it wipes out the registry,
thus your Win 7 key file to take over..
I hate everything Win 10 does. Personally, I intend to run Win 7 until its
wheels fall off..
Perhaps, by then.. "Win 12 or something will work"...

On Sat, Jan 4, 2020 at 11:44 AM Max Dillon via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

>
> Creating the Windows 10 media on a USB drive, slow going so far. Creating
> both 32 bit and 64, I'd like to have 64 thinking that I can use the 8 GB of
> RAM installed. Finished the download, verification in progress. Back to
> domestic work til this and a backup of current system is complete.
>
> Max Dillon
> Charleston SC
>
> Jan 4, 2020 1:13:44 PM Max Dillon :
>
> >
> > So I'm finally left alone at home with enough time to try the upgrade.
> Plan is to install a bigger faster SSD, then try to upgrade from Win 7 Pro
> to Win 10.
> >
> > I have the Pro key, but only have installation media (and the key) for
> Win 7 Home. Let's see if I can make this work
> >
> >
> > Max Dillon
> > Charleston SC
> >
>
>
> ___
> http://www.okiebenz.com
>
> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/
>
> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
>
>
___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] windows 10 upgrade on PC

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

In my deal I just paid $4 on eBay and they emailed me a product key, worked 
fine. Now I’m going to try the win 10 upgrade again 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 4, 2020, at 12:44 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> Creating the Windows 10 media on a USB drive, slow going so far. Creating 
> both 32 bit and 64, I'd like to have 64 thinking that I can use the 8 GB of 
> RAM installed. Finished the download, verification in progress. Back to 
> domestic work til this and a backup of current system is complete.
> 
> Max Dillon
> Charleston SC
> 
> Jan 4, 2020 1:13:44 PM Max Dillon :
> 
>> 
>> So I'm finally left alone at home with enough time to try the upgrade. Plan 
>> is to install a bigger faster SSD, then try to upgrade from Win 7 Pro to Win 
>> 10.
>> 
>> I have the Pro key, but only have installation media (and the key) for Win 7 
>> Home. Let's see if I can make this work
>> 
>> 
>> Max Dillon
>> Charleston SC
>> 
> 
> 
> ___
> http://www.okiebenz.com
> 
> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/
> 
> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
> 


___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] windows 10 upgrade on PC

[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

Creating the Windows 10 media on a USB drive, slow going so far. Creating both 
32 bit and 64, I'd like to have 64 thinking that I can use the 8 GB of RAM 
installed. Finished the download, verification in progress. Back to domestic 
work til this and a backup of current system is complete.

Max Dillon
Charleston SC

Jan 4, 2020 1:13:44 PM Max Dillon :

> 
> So I'm finally left alone at home with enough time to try the upgrade. Plan 
> is to install a bigger faster SSD, then try to upgrade from Win 7 Pro to Win 
> 10.
> 
> I have the Pro key, but only have installation media (and the key) for Win 7 
> Home. Let's see if I can make this work
> 
> 
> Max Dillon
> Charleston SC
> 


___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] windows 10 upgrade on PC

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

If I can’t find my key and get it activated maybe I can get this then do the 
win 10 upgrade 

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Windows-7-Ultimate-32-64-Bit-Full-Version-SP1-Product-Key/323900441080?hash=item4b69f881f8:g:IdUAAOSw~fFdaqQa

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 4, 2020, at 12:14 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> So I'm finally left alone at home with enough time to try the upgrade. Plan 
> is to install a bigger faster SSD, then try to upgrade from Win 7 Pro to Win 
> 10.
> 
> I have the Pro key, but only have installation media (and the key) for Win 7 
> Home. Let's see if I can make this work
> 
> 
> Max Dillon
> Charleston SC
> 
> 
> ___
> http://www.okiebenz.com
> 
> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/
> 
> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
> 
___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] windows 10 upgrade on PC

[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

So I'm finally left alone at home with enough time to try the upgrade. Plan is 
to install a bigger faster SSD, then try to upgrade from Win 7 Pro to Win 10.

I have the Pro key, but only have installation media (and the key) for Win 7 
Home. Let's see if I can make this work


Max Dillon
Charleston SC


___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] windows 10 upgrade on PC

[OK Don via Mercedes]

Will it let you activate that key in the report you just posted?

On Sat, Jan 4, 2020 at 10:40 AM List Owner via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Yea I have that and it shows no key activated
>
> Microsoft - Windows 7 Ultimate (x64)00426-065-4097422-86619 (Key: none
> activated)
>
> Now that I think about it the install I used was some sort of enterprise
> version I got from my brother which can supposedly be installed on
> multiple computers.  I used this same install on my laptop that the
> screen when out.  I will hook it up to my monitor then run Belarc on it
> and get the key off that computer.  Wait nevermind that wont work
> because I upgraded that laptop to 10 already.  Crap.  I am going to have
> to hunt for the CD or else pay for a license.
>
> On 2020-01-04 16:11, Frederick Moir via Mercedes wrote:
> > Kaleb.
> > I use Belarc Adviser.
> > It gives you a report on the PC including the COA, and it's free.
> > YMMV.
> > Fred.
> >
> > On Sat, Jan 4, 2020 at 10:27 AM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> >> I have no idea. I have a 2 tb SSD which I just installed not long ago
> >> and
> >> everything was running great. It was installing and I left it along
> >> then
> >> came back later and it was restarting in windows 7. Just said
> >> installation
> >> failed and rolled back the changes. Previous to this I checked the
> >> properties and it said windows 7 was active and genuine. Now it’s as
> >> if the
> >> product key is missing and wants me to activate. I can’t seem to find
> >> disc
> >> I used which has the key on it. Right now it keeps say I need to
> >> activate
> >> now.
> >>
> >> When I did it on my laptop it also failed the first time and rolled
> >> back
> >> to win 7 but did not have the missing key issue. I just ran it again
> >> and it
> >> took on the 2nd time/
> >>
> >> Sent from my iPhone
> >>
> >> > On Jan 4, 2020, at 6:42 AM, ROGER HALE via Mercedes <
> >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > Kaleb,
> >> > Much like problem determination on a car, you need to provide more
> than
> >> "it failed for some reason".  Was it hardware, too little disk space,
> >> bad
> >> Win7 product id, etc.  You have until Jan. 14 to upgrade using the
> >> free
> >> upgrade with a valid Win7 product ID.
> >> > Best Wishes,
> >> > Roger
> >> > Roger Hale
> >> > Dinnerware Classics, Inc.
> >> > Monroe, Ga.
> >> > 770-267-0850
> >> > www.dinnerwareclassics.com
> >> > ___
> >> > http://www.okiebenz.com
> >> >
> >> > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/
> >> >
> >> > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
> >> > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >> ___
> >> http://www.okiebenz.com
> >>
> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/
> >>
> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
> >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
> >>
> >>
>
> ___
> http://www.okiebenz.com
>
> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/
>
> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
>
>

-- 
OK Don

"Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to
pause and reflect." Mark Twain

"There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who
learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence
for themselves."

WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers*
2013 F150, 18 mpg
2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg
1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph!
___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] windows 10 upgrade on PC

[List Owner via Mercedes]

Yea I have that and it shows no key activated

Microsoft - Windows 7 Ultimate (x64)	00426-065-4097422-86619 (Key: none 
activated)


Now that I think about it the install I used was some sort of enterprise 
version I got from my brother which can supposedly be installed on 
multiple computers.  I used this same install on my laptop that the 
screen when out.  I will hook it up to my monitor then run Belarc on it 
and get the key off that computer.  Wait nevermind that wont work 
because I upgraded that laptop to 10 already.  Crap.  I am going to have 
to hunt for the CD or else pay for a license.


On 2020-01-04 16:11, Frederick Moir via Mercedes wrote:

Kaleb.
I use Belarc Adviser.
It gives you a report on the PC including the COA, and it's free.
YMMV.
Fred.

On Sat, Jan 4, 2020 at 10:27 AM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

I have no idea. I have a 2 tb SSD which I just installed not long ago 
and
everything was running great. It was installing and I left it along 
then
came back later and it was restarting in windows 7. Just said 
installation

failed and rolled back the changes. Previous to this I checked the
properties and it said windows 7 was active and genuine. Now it’s as 
if the
product key is missing and wants me to activate. I can’t seem to find 
disc
I used which has the key on it. Right now it keeps say I need to 
activate

now.

When I did it on my laptop it also failed the first time and rolled 
back
to win 7 but did not have the missing key issue. I just ran it again 
and it

took on the 2nd time/

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 4, 2020, at 6:42 AM, ROGER HALE via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> Kaleb,
> Much like problem determination on a car, you need to provide more than
"it failed for some reason".  Was it hardware, too little disk space, 
bad
Win7 product id, etc.  You have until Jan. 14 to upgrade using the 
free

upgrade with a valid Win7 product ID.
> Best Wishes,
> Roger
> Roger Hale
> Dinnerware Classics, Inc.
> Monroe, Ga.
> 770-267-0850
> www.dinnerwareclassics.com
> ___
> http://www.okiebenz.com
>
> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/
>
> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
>


___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com




___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] windows 10 upgrade on PC

[Frederick Moir via Mercedes]

Kaleb.
I use Belarc Adviser.
It gives you a report on the PC including the COA, and it's free.
YMMV.
Fred.

On Sat, Jan 4, 2020 at 10:27 AM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> I have no idea. I have a 2 tb SSD which I just installed not long ago and
> everything was running great. It was installing and I left it along then
> came back later and it was restarting in windows 7. Just said installation
> failed and rolled back the changes. Previous to this I checked the
> properties and it said windows 7 was active and genuine. Now it’s as if the
> product key is missing and wants me to activate. I can’t seem to find disc
> I used which has the key on it. Right now it keeps say I need to activate
> now.
>
> When I did it on my laptop it also failed the first time and rolled back
> to win 7 but did not have the missing key issue. I just ran it again and it
> took on the 2nd time/
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Jan 4, 2020, at 6:42 AM, ROGER HALE via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > Kaleb,
> > Much like problem determination on a car, you need to provide more than
> "it failed for some reason".  Was it hardware, too little disk space, bad
> Win7 product id, etc.  You have until Jan. 14 to upgrade using the free
> upgrade with a valid Win7 product ID.
> > Best Wishes,
> > Roger
> > Roger Hale
> > Dinnerware Classics, Inc.
> > Monroe, Ga.
> > 770-267-0850
> > www.dinnerwareclassics.com
> > ___
> > http://www.okiebenz.com
> >
> > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/
> >
> > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
> > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
> >
>
>
> ___
> http://www.okiebenz.com
>
> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/
>
> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
>
>

-- 
Fred Moir
Lynn MA
Diesel preferred
___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] windows 10 upgrade on PC

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

I have no idea. I have a 2 tb SSD which I just installed not long ago and 
everything was running great. It was installing and I left it along then came 
back later and it was restarting in windows 7. Just said installation failed 
and rolled back the changes. Previous to this I checked the properties and it 
said windows 7 was active and genuine. Now it’s as if the product key is 
missing and wants me to activate. I can’t seem to find disc I used which has 
the key on it. Right now it keeps say I need to activate now. 

When I did it on my laptop it also failed the first time and rolled back to win 
7 but did not have the missing key issue. I just ran it again and it took on 
the 2nd time/ 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 4, 2020, at 6:42 AM, ROGER HALE via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Kaleb,
> Much like problem determination on a car, you need to provide more than "it 
> failed for some reason".  Was it hardware, too little disk space, bad Win7 
> product id, etc.  You have until Jan. 14 to upgrade using the free upgrade 
> with a valid Win7 product ID.
> Best Wishes,
> Roger
> Roger Hale
> Dinnerware Classics, Inc.
> Monroe, Ga.
> 770-267-0850
> www.dinnerwareclassics.com
> ___
> http://www.okiebenz.com
> 
> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/
> 
> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
> 


___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] Windows 10 Upgrade

[Rick Knoble via Mercedes]

>Thanks Rick!

You are quite welcome. 


Rick


___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] Windows 10 Upgrade

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

Huh!   I thought the free window (pun not intended ) closed years 
ago.    Good to know!  Thanks Rick!



Rick Knoble via Mercedes 
December 14, 2019 at 2:00 PM
Here you go.

https://www.cnet.com/how-to/upgrade-to-windows-10-free-heres-how/

https://www.zdnet.com/article/this-free-windows-10-upgrade-offer-still-works-heres-why-and-how-to-get-it/

Let us know if it works for you.


Rick
_


___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] Windows 10 Upgrade

[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

Thanks Rick, I'll try that later and report back. I need to install a larger 
hard drive first, or at least install a second internal drive if my laptop 
allows.

Max Dillon
Charleston SC

Dec 14, 2019 3:01:40 PM Rick Knoble via Mercedes :

> Here you go.
> 
> https://www.cnet.com/how-to/upgrade-to-windows-10-free-heres-how/
> 
> https://www.zdnet.com/article/this-free-windows-10-upgrade-offer-still-works-heres-why-and-how-to-get-it/
> 
> Let us know if it works for you.
> 
> 
> Rick
> ___
> http://www.okiebenz.com
> 
> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/
> 
> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
> 


___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com