Re: [MBZ] w124 diesel value

2006-03-11 Thread Rick Knoble
You are totally asking the wrong people about curing the diesel disease. 
I

mean, that's like asking your crack dealer if it's a good idea to kick the
habit.


I kinda figured that.

I paid $5000 for my 1992 300D.  286Kmi, new transmission at 200K, new 
timing
chain, valve job, and head gasket at 150Kmi.  New 500E headlights and 
motor

mounts just before I bought it, and nearly complete records from both
owners.


That is kinda scary. This is a 1992 300D with 159K miles. I surely don't 
want to drop 5 grand and then have to put in a head gasket, timing chain 
ect.

Thanks,
Rick Knoble
'85 300 CD
'87 190 DT 



Re: [MBZ] w124 diesel value

2006-03-11 Thread l02turner

Hi Rick.
I bought my '91 300D about 3 weeks ago (2/17 IIRC)  - it had ~99K miles and 
is in excellent condition.  My other MB is a '78 240D with 286k miles and 
the difference that 13 years of constant improvement to diesel engines is 
nothing short of phenomenal!   It's *much * quieter, *much* faster and more 
luxurious.  Bought it for my wife to drive but I hate letting it go ;-)  I 
*love* driving it!  Hearing the turbo roar and feeling it press me back in 
the seat is addictive!  Going back to the 240D is gonna be tough!


Sincerely,
Larry T ('74 911, '67 MGB, 91 300D Turbo)
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Hi All,
I know several of you (us) have bought 124 diesels recently. Sunil and OK 
Don come to mind. How much did you guys pay? I am going to check out a 
1992 300D tomorrow.


Also, is there any cure for this disease? I mean, I already have two kinda 
rare diesels, why do I still want MORE? Will it subside? How many is 
ENOUGH? Am I asking the wrong bunch of people? If I get this car, will I 
STILL have to have a w126 and a 300TD wagon to round things out?


Enough already

Rick Knoble
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'87 190 DT
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Re: [MBZ] w124 diesel value

2006-03-11 Thread Dave M.
If you do some searching for these nationwide, typical asking price is
between $7-$12k. So, buying one for $5k and spending a bit on repairs
wouldn't be unexpected. If it's clean and runs well, $5k is a really
good deal, IMO.

If anyone finds a 90-93 W124 diesel for sale - with ASD and heated
seats - I'm interested. Even better if it's somewhere on the west
coast. For some reason almost all of them are on the east coast, d'oh.

=)

-dm

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 Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2006 18:07:22 -0600
 From: Rick Knoble [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] w124 diesel value



  I paid $5000 for my 1992 300D.  286Kmi, new transmission at 200K, new
  timing chain, valve job, and head gasket at 150Kmi.  New 500E headlights
  and motor mounts just before I bought it, and nearly complete records
  from both owners.

 That is kinda scary. This is a 1992 300D with 159K miles. I surely don't
 want to drop 5 grand and then have to put in a head gasket, timing chain
 ect.

 Thanks,
 Rick Knoble



Re: [MBZ] w124 diesel value

2006-03-11 Thread OK Don
My '90 300D 2.5 had 243k miles (still shows that - odometer stopped
about 100 miles after purchase). I paid $4500 for it - no maintenance
history other than the it had good care for the three or four years
the PO (D. Snook) owned it. I think the engine is all original, and
the tranny probably is also. It needed several small things - engine
mounts, front exhaust pipe, fuel hoses, etc. I'm going to replace the
original vacuum pump this Fall (have to recover from re-building the
450SLC first). This car was meticulously maintained cosmetically, has
the later 8 hole wheels, and looks great. It drives extremely nicely,
though I can tell that it's probably due for rear end rubber parts,
but it's not too bad yet. It totally beats the 240D - and the 300Ds
(115) that preceded it, but is a different cat than the 300SDL. I have
to keep both the E class and S class. Love them both for different
reasons.
I can't wait to see what my reaction is to the 450SLC when I drive it
again after 2 years - will it match the 124 chassis for fun?

No - there is no cure - accept your fate, and enjoy the addiction! I
have sevferal times wished that I was transplanting a 603 engine into
the SLC instead of the original engine (117).



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Norman, OK
'90 300D 243K, Rattled
'87 300SDL 290K, Limo Lite, or blue car
'81 240D 173K, Gramps, or yellow car
'78 450SLC 67K, brown car
'97 Ply Grand Voyager 78K Van Go



Re: [MBZ] w124 diesel value

2006-03-11 Thread l02turner
   Sorry, I forgot to mention the asking price of the W124 '91 300D 2.5 
Turbo that I just bought was $9900 and I offered $8K which he accepted. 
Bought it from a wholesaler who had this car for 44 days - I'm told they 
like to move their cars more often than that - I think he was dealing 
because he'd had it for a while.  I'm in love with this car and only like it 
more and more - I haven't found any significant problems except for an 
intermittant cold starting problem (happened 2 times in 3 weeks) which I 
contribute to a lack of being driven regularily.  Since filling with fresh 
fuel the problem seems to be gone (knock wood).  The seller put 1/4 tank in 
before I picked it up and I'm not aware of any stations in his area that 
gets a lot of diesel traffic - so the fuel may have been 'off'.


Sincerely,
Larry T ('74 911, '67 MGB, 91 300D Turbo)
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Hi Rick.
I bought my '91 300D about 3 weeks ago (2/17 IIRC)  - it had ~99K miles 
and

is in excellent condition.  My other MB is a '78 240D with 286k miles and
the difference that 13 years of constant improvement to diesel engines is
nothing short of phenomenal!   It's *much * quieter, *much* faster and 
more

luxurious.  Bought it for my wife to drive but I hate letting it go ;-)  I
*love* driving it!  Hearing the turbo roar and feeling it press me back in
the seat is addictive!  Going back to the 240D is gonna be tough!

Sincerely,
Larry T ('74 911, '67 MGB, 91 300D Turbo)
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Subject: [MBZ] w124 diesel value



Hi All,
I know several of you (us) have bought 124 diesels recently. Sunil and OK
Don come to mind. How much did you guys pay? I am going to check out a
1992 300D tomorrow.

Also, is there any cure for this disease? I mean, I already have two 
kinda

rare diesels, why do I still want MORE? Will it subside? How many is
ENOUGH? Am I asking the wrong bunch of people? If I get this car, will I
STILL have to have a w126 and a 300TD wagon to round things out?

Enough already

Rick Knoble
'85 300 CD
'87 190 DT
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Re: [MBZ] w124 diesel value

2006-03-11 Thread Dwight E. Giles, Jr
Larry,
That sounds about right. I have about 8k in my recently acquired 30D 2.5
t. Low miles, southern car, mint body  interior, two owners, etc. Some
of these have been going for 10K recently on e-bay. I think you'll love
driving it. BTW-what color is it? Is it white? Many of these seem to be.

Dwight Giles, Jr
1979 240D auto, 250K + miles
1990 300D 2.5t, 129K miles
Wickford, RI


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Sorry, I forgot to mention the asking price of the W124 '91 300D 2.5

Turbo that I just bought was $9900 and I offered $8K which he accepted. 
Bought it from a wholesaler who had this car for 44 days - I'm told they

like to move their cars more often than that - I think he was dealing 
because he'd had it for a while.  I'm in love with this car and only
like it 
more and more - I haven't found any significant problems except for an 
intermittant cold starting problem (happened 2 times in 3 weeks) which I

contribute to a lack of being driven regularily.  Since filling with
fresh 
fuel the problem seems to be gone (knock wood).  The seller put 1/4 tank
in 
before I picked it up and I'm not aware of any stations in his area that

gets a lot of diesel traffic - so the fuel may have been 'off'.

Sincerely,
Larry T ('74 911, '67 MGB, 91 300D Turbo)
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] w124 diesel value


 Hi Rick.
 I bought my '91 300D about 3 weeks ago (2/17 IIRC)  - it had ~99K 
 miles
 and
 is in excellent condition.  My other MB is a '78 240D with 286k miles
and
 the difference that 13 years of constant improvement to diesel engines
is
 nothing short of phenomenal!   It's *much * quieter, *much* faster and

 more
 luxurious.  Bought it for my wife to drive but I hate letting it go
;-)  I
 *love* driving it!  Hearing the turbo roar and feeling it press me
back in
 the seat is addictive!  Going back to the 240D is gonna be tough!

 Sincerely,
 Larry T ('74 911, '67 MGB, 91 300D Turbo)
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 From: Rick Knoble [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 Sent: Friday, March 10, 2006 5:52 PM
 Subject: [MBZ] w124 diesel value


 Hi All,
 I know several of you (us) have bought 124 diesels recently. Sunil 
 and OK Don come to mind. How much did you guys pay? I am going to 
 check out a 1992 300D tomorrow.

 Also, is there any cure for this disease? I mean, I already have two
 kinda
 rare diesels, why do I still want MORE? Will it subside? How many is
 ENOUGH? Am I asking the wrong bunch of people? If I get this car,
will I
 STILL have to have a w126 and a 300TD wagon to round things out?

 Enough already

 Rick Knoble
 '85 300 CD
 '87 190 DT
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Re: [MBZ] w124 diesel value

2006-03-11 Thread l02turner

Hi Dwight,
Yeah, ours sound very similar.  I'm the 2nd owner (if you don't count the 
car dealer that bought it at auction) and so far I couldn't be happier.  I 
had an initial cold start problem which I suspect was probably a fuel 
quality issue.  I've changed both fuel filters and added some biocide along 
with plenty of fresh fuel.


About the color of mine - it's a metallic bluish-silver - if that makes any 
sense ;-) mostly it's blue, but not a dark blue.  I'll have to look thru my 
color charts to see what it's called.


Drove it to Williamsburg and back this morning  (about 150miles total)- a 
beautiful day for a drive, 72F and sunny  - the 300D ran perfectly and I 
really like the climate control system!  Of course, I haven't had to do any 
work to the automatic part of it - hopefully I won;t for a long time.  ;-)


BTW, bought the Biocide from West Marine - made by CRC I got 3 bottles for 
~$7 each.  Ordered it Thurs and it arrived  Wednesday...


Sincerely,
Larry T ('74 911, '67 MGB, 91 300D Turbo)
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Larry,
That sounds about right. I have about 8k in my recently acquired 30D 2.5
t. Low miles, southern car, mint body  interior, two owners, etc. Some
of these have been going for 10K recently on e-bay. I think you'll love
driving it. BTW-what color is it? Is it white? Many of these seem to be.

Dwight Giles, Jr
1979 240D auto, 250K + miles
1990 300D 2.5t, 129K miles
Wickford, RI


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   Sorry, I forgot to mention the asking price of the W124 '91 300D 2.5

Turbo that I just bought was $9900 and I offered $8K which he accepted.
Bought it from a wholesaler who had this car for 44 days - I'm told they

like to move their cars more often than that - I think he was dealing
because he'd had it for a while.  I'm in love with this car and only
like it
more and more - I haven't found any significant problems except for an
intermittant cold starting problem (happened 2 times in 3 weeks) which I

contribute to a lack of being driven regularily.  Since filling with
fresh
fuel the problem seems to be gone (knock wood).  The seller put 1/4 tank
in
before I picked it up and I'm not aware of any stations in his area that

gets a lot of diesel traffic - so the fuel may have been 'off'.

Sincerely,
Larry T ('74 911, '67 MGB, 91 300D Turbo)
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Hi Rick.
I bought my '91 300D about 3 weeks ago (2/17 IIRC)  - it had ~99K
miles
and
is in excellent condition.  My other MB is a '78 240D with 286k miles

and

the difference that 13 years of constant improvement to diesel engines

is

nothing short of phenomenal!   It's *much * quieter, *much* faster and



more
luxurious.  Bought it for my wife to drive but I hate letting it go

;-)  I

*love* driving it!  Hearing the turbo roar and feeling it press me

back in

the seat is addictive!  Going back to the 240D is gonna be tough!

Sincerely,
Larry T ('74 911, '67 MGB, 91 300D Turbo)
A Blood Test for your oil - www.youroil.net
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Subject: [MBZ] w124 diesel value



Hi All,
I know several of you (us) have bought 124 diesels recently. Sunil
and OK Don come to mind. How much did you guys pay? I am going to
check out a 1992 300D tomorrow.

Also, is there any cure for this disease? I mean, I already have two
kinda
rare diesels, why do I still want MORE? Will it subside? How many is
ENOUGH? Am I asking the wrong bunch of people? If I get this car,

will I

STILL have to have a w126 and a 300TD wagon to round things out?

Enough already

Rick Knoble
'85 300 CD
'87 190 DT
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Re: [MBZ] w124 diesel value

2006-03-10 Thread Sunil Hari
You are totally asking the wrong people about curing the diesel disease.  I
mean, that's like asking your crack dealer if it's a good idea to kick the
habit.

I paid $5000 for my 1992 300D.  286Kmi, new transmission at 200K, new timing
chain, valve job, and head gasket at 150Kmi.  New 500E headlights and motor
mounts just before I bought it, and nearly complete records from both
owners.

On 3/10/06, Rick Knoble [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi All,
 I know several of you (us) have bought 124 diesels recently. Sunil and OK
 Don come to mind. How much did you guys pay? I am going to check out a 1992
 300D tomorrow.

 Also, is there any cure for this disease? I mean, I already have two kinda
 rare diesels, why do I still want MORE? Will it subside? How many is ENOUGH?
 Am I asking the wrong bunch of people? If I get this car, will I STILL have
 to have a w126 and a 300TD wagon to round things out?

 Enough already

 Rick Knoble
 '85 300 CD
 '87 190 DT
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