RE: [meteorite-list] Listening to Meteors...

2003-07-24 Thread mark ford


Hi Marcia!

I am told that you at least can hear meteor pings, on pretty much any
radio, but there are some things to bear in mind.

1. The Antenna, needs to be 'good' since you are receiving a relatively
weak signal that is reflected from the meteor, (I.E the better your
antenna the more pings you will detect) Having said that people have
heard meteor pings on Car radio's tuned to Short/long wave stations!
It's even better if you have an antenna, that is 'pointed' at the radio
station...

2. It is vital that the station you are listening for is just over your
horizon, since the signal has to bounce from the meteor, and be
reflected down at the correct angle hence the reason it is below the
horizon.

3. You need to tune into a 'continuous tone' something like a TV station
'carrier signal' which will sound like a 'whine' or a fax/beacon or
anything that transmits a continuous sound,. If you just tune into a
normal music station you won't hear the 'ping' because the music is
changing tone all the time.

4. [You really want to tune into a station that is very faint], because
the signal gets reflected from the meteor and gets much louder quickly
(hence the ping!) its pointless tuning in to a loud station since the
meteor won't make the signal any louder!


There is a whole heap of space bourne radio signals, you can for example
with a suitable antenna hear the radio emissions from Jupiter, (they
sound like a crackle/waves).



 - Sorry everyone for the long post but there seems to have been quite a
bit of interest in this!

Mark F.
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[meteorite-list] ebay auctions

2003-07-24 Thread Steve Arnold, Chicago!!!
Good morning list.I have 5 auctions going on right now on ebay.They are
under the name ILLINOISMETEORITES.View at your liesure, and bid often.

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[meteorite-list] Re listening to meteors..

2003-07-24 Thread mark ford








Marcia  List,



I also found this link on using a normal FM radio (but it
would work with AM/SW) http://www.space.com/spacewatch/leonids_spacewatch_021115.html



Of course with the annual Persied
meteor shower coming up it might be worth try.





Here also is a list of annual meteor showers.. http://comets.amsmeteors.org/meteors/calendar.html





Have Fun! - Its
yet another interesting aspect to our hobby.



Mark










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2003-07-24 Thread PolandMET.com
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[meteorite-list] Fwd: Meteorite particles

2003-07-24 Thread Michael Farmer

Note: forwarded message attached.
---BeginMessage---



Mr. Farmer;

I'm not sure if you are the right person to contact 
but I am quite ignorant to this subject. About two weeks ago a large meteor 
entered the sky over the Grays Harbor County area in Washington State. I 
witnessed the fireball shoot across the sky while at a residence on a call. 
About an hour after I cleared the call I was notified by a County Deputy that 
three young men had flagged him down on the road stating that they had witnessed 
a small shower of debris fall from the sky shortly after the meteor had passed 
over head. The meteor continued north. 

The fragments landed on the football field of the 
Elma High School. The Deputy and myself checked the area with the boys and found 
a sandy area near the field covered in small crater like holes. Near or in each 
hole was a small black glassy like material that was hot to touch. Some pieces 
had struck a set of aluminum bleachers and made small dents. Other pieces hit 
the asphalt walkway and melted. The whole area of impact was about 100' x100' 
wide.

I was able to collect some samples of the debris. I 
attempted to keep the site protected by not telling anyone so that people like 
yourself would have a shot at it before a wave of morons destroyed the area. 
After I hade gone home to get some sleep I was notified by a fellow Officer that 
some idiot had alerted the press. By the next day every yahoo in the county had 
trampled the scene. Two men (don't remember their names) arrived to investigate 
the scene. They claimed that the material they were shown was not meteor 
material and that they doubted that any thing even fell there. I wished that I 
had been there to ask where in the heck they got that idea. The pieces that I 
have at home look just like the fragments that you have on the front page of 
your site. After looking at some of the pictures it is possible that the 
material found could be only the burnt shell that forms around the meteor 
itself.

If you have any questions or would like to view the 
samples please let me know. My E-Mail is [EMAIL PROTECTED].

Thank You,
Travis E. Bealert
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Re: [meteorite-list] Fwd: Meteorite particles

2003-07-24 Thread Mark Jackson

Travis BE-ALERT? This whole Elma, Washington thing hassmacked ofGreen Acres from the start. Pedestrians beware . . . Zsa Zsa Gabor's in town!

Kindest Regards,

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[meteorite-list] Mass Extinction from Buried Carbon?

2003-07-24 Thread Ron Baalke


http://dsc.discovery.com/news/afp/20030721/carbon.html

Mass Extinction from Buried Carbon?
AFP/ABC Science Online
July 23, 2003

A vast reservoir of carbon is stashed beneath the Earth's crust
and could be released by a major volcanic eruption, unleashing a 
mass extinction of the kind that last occurred 200 million years 
ago, German geologists report. 

Researchers know that carbon is stored in the mantle, a layer of 
plastic-like rock beneath Earth's fragile crust, said Hans
Keppler of the Institute of Sciences at Germany's University of 
Tuebingen, whose report appears in today's issue of Nature. 

Exactly how much is down there is unknown. Most estimates, drawn 
from analyses of gases emerging from the mantle, suggest the store 
is many times more than all the carbon in the Earth's atmosphere, 
soil and sea combined. 

The concern is that if just a part of this gigantic
reservoir is quickly released as carbon dioxide, or
CO2, that could create a runaway greenhouse effect.
The CO2-soaked atmosphere would store up heat
from the sun, shrivelling plant life and destroying
species along the food chain. 

The [mantle] reservoir is just gigantic compared with
anything that we have on the Earth's surface, said
Keppler. 

So he and his colleagues conducted an ambitious experiment 
aimed at finding whether mantle rock is a stable storage for 
CO2. 

Most of the rock in the Earth's upper mantle is a crystalline 
silicate called olivine. In a lab chamber, Keppler's team 
replicated the fiery heat and intense pressures, of 1,200° 
Celsius and 3.5 gigapascals, which are likely to exist in the 
deeper parts of the upper mantle. 

They used these conditions to create olivine crystals from raw 
ingredients of magnesium oxide and silicon dioxide, and exposed 
them to carbon and water. 

The carbon turned out to be almost completely insoluble in olivine: 
just a tiny amount, between 0.1 and 1.0 parts per million by weight, 
was absorbed into the rock. So if the carbon is not in the olivine, 
that leaves only one major source, Keppler said: If you cannot
store the carbon in the olivine, then the only plausible place for 
storing it are carbonates. 

Carbonate rocks have a much lower melting point than olivine, which 
is able to absorb the punishing furnace-like heat radiating from the 
Earth's core and still not melt. 

Heated to a molten state, carbonates are capable of squeezing through 
cracks in the olivine, rising up towards the surface and absorbing the 
free carbon as they go. They can pick up so much that as much as 10 or 
20 percent of their mass is carbon. 

The risk, said Keppler, is that this carbonate reservoir could suddenly 
be breached in the event of a major volcanic eruption. 

Once the carbonate comes up to the surface, as soon as it is below 
[a pressure of] 20 or 30 kilobars, which corresponds to a depth of 40 or 
60 kilometers in the mantle, he said.  As soon as it comes up beyond 
this depth, it will decompose and release carbon dioxide. 

The nightmare scenario? Gigantic geysers of carbon dioxide, imperilling 
life on the surface. 

There has been some evidence that something like this has happened in 
the past. There is a very good correlation with [CO2] flooding that 
coincides with several mass extinction events - some massive, sudden 
change of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere, Keppler said. 

One of these events occurred around 245 million years ago, at the end of 
the Permian era, which saw the largest extinction event in Earth's history: 
fossil evidence shows as many as 96 percent of all marine species were lost 
and more than three quarters of vertebrate, or backboned, species on land. 

The other, possibly a cluster of smaller events, was at the end of the 
Triassic period around 208 million years ago, when around half of the 
world's species suddenly died out. 

That event essentially handed rule of the planet to the dinosaurs, which 
began a long decline thereafter. They were ultimately consigned to history 
65 million years ago by the cataclysmic impact of a 10-kilometer asteroid, 
which struck what is now the Gulf of Mexico. 

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Re: [meteorite-list] Melrose Meteorite

2003-07-24 Thread Steve Schoner
Melrose also has a very large amount of copper
compaired to other meteorites, and copper is also a
bi-product in gold mining.

In fact, Nininger pointed out that the very visible
copper found in Melrose in the form of large grains
should be compared to so called Eaton meteorite which
was copper entirely.

Steve Sconer/ams


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 Hello All,
 
 I was reading the post from Peter Marmet about the
 AMM list of meteorites and 
 couldn't help notice the Melrose meteorite, # 4 on
 the list.
 The only American meteorite to contain gold.
 
 This meteorite has twice as much gold as what is
 considered to be  mineable 
 amounts ! ( ~.35 grams per ton for Melrose, ~.07g's
 per ton in ore is 
 mineable).This is something of a surprise to me, as
 I was informed not long ago by a 
 world reknowned representative of the meteorite
 community,(he's also a man of 
 the cloth, hint) that there are not any meteorites
 with gold in them except in 
 some irons, and they have only trace amounts.
 
 Here's the question(s) ;
 Melrose is a chondrite...Does the oxygen isotope
 match the fractionation line 
 of the other chondrites? Is it on a line all its
 own? Or is it on the 
 terestrial line with the Moon, Earth, and the
 aubrites? (Aubrites, an entirely 
 different subject, no less interesting... how are
 they on the same O2 fractionation 
 line as Earth and the Moon?)
 
 Have any similar meteorites been found since then,
 anywhere? Am I to assume 
 this is the one single example of a particular
 asteroid?
 
 These observations, and the answers to these
 questions point to the obvious 
 fact that we still have a very limited
 representation of the solar system in 
 our meteorite collections, and that this science
 really is still in its 
 infancy...many more discoveries are waiting in the
 lab, and in the field. I think that 
 is part of the mystique that draws me to meteorites.
 In a world where it 
 seems as if everything has been invented,
 documented, or discovered, the science 
 of meteorites is ripe with opportunities! I think
 the Melrose meteorite proves 
 that.
 
 Happy Days  Starry Nights to All !
 Larry
 


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Re: [meteorite-list] Fwd: Meteorite particles

2003-07-24 Thread Adam Hupe
Hi Mike and List Members,

I see you got a letter from officer BeAlert.  This whole thing is turning
out to be kind of weird.  The three teenagers said they saw dust being
kicked up from the shot-put pit right after witnessing the fireball.  I have
no doubt about the fireball because it was witnessed by several people.
There are photographs of the so-called impact craters with the black glass
in them.  There is also a photograph of the telephone pole that officer
Bealert removed a piece of this glassy material from.  Both photographs were
taken by the Daily World the following morning before the scene was
disturbed.

I do not believe that the glassy material from Elma is meteoritic but it is
weird.  We submitted samples to the University of Washington which will be
probed Friday under a SEM.  We are leaving town for three days so I will not
be able to report their findings until Monday.  We are only analyzing this
stuff to satisfy the people of Elma and others who may be curious.

As for the Iron, it was found about seven miles from Elma while we were
searching for fossils and investigating the sighting.  It is weathered and
cannot be connected in any way to the meteor sighting.  I ground an edge and
etched it.  It has two phases of metal and an odd pattern like that of the
Carver iron.  It is not slag, is irregularly shaped and has what looks like
thumb-printing.  We will know for sure by Monday if this is the real McCoy,
our fingers are crossed.

All the best,

Adam and Greg Hupe
The Hupe Collection
IMCA 2185



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Re: [meteorite-list] Listening to meteors

2003-07-24 Thread Howard Wu

Slightly off topic, I understand it is also realitively easy to "listen" to the magnetic fields of Jupiter using shortwave radio.

Howard Wu"GEORGE BLAHUN JR." [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hello everyone. Listening to meteors or communicating with another stationutilizing the ionized trails of meteors is something many amateur (HAM)radio operators do frequently. If anyone is interested they can get someinformation (some free, some not) at the www.ARRL.com website. It is theheadquarters for amateur radio, located in Newington, CT.Most communicating over ionized trails is done with highly directionalantennas using either CW (Morse code), SSB (single sideband) or digitalmodes with fairly high power levels.If any of you have scanners and can monitor the amateur bands at 50,144, 220, 440, 928 and 1,200 MHz you'll be able to hear these short burstsof communication. Additionally, many hams use EME (earth-moon-earth)communication, bouncing signals off the moon with vhf, uhf and microwavesignals. I personally am setting up a radio
 telescope at a new house andwill ultimately give a shot at EVE earth-Venus-earth. That attempt is stilla couple years away as the house repairs must come first.There are quite a few publications on meteor scatter communications,some of which I have seen on (where else) eBay. You don't need a license tolisten, but you do to transmit.GeorgeQuaker Hill, CT__Meteorite-list mailing list[EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-listWant to chat instantly with your online friends? Get the FREE Yahoo!
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[meteorite-list] The AMS Radio Meteor Project

2003-07-24 Thread Robert Verish
http://www.amsmeteors.org/radmet.html

The AMS Radiometeor Project

For nearly forty years the American Meteor Society
(AMS) has encouraged its amateur members to experiment
with the establishment of forward scatter receiver
systems. First successes in this area were had by the
Kansas Meteor Group, an AMS affiliate, in 1958. This
group, led by Walter Scott Houston, established an
automatic electronic system for counting meteor echoes
from a professionally operated transmitter located in
Cedar Rapids, Iowa. Featured in the July, 1958,
Scientific American, this system remained in operation
until the early 1960's. 

During the mid-1970's, the advent of the personal
computer made it possible for amateurs to establish
forward-scatter data collection systems of an even
higher level of sophistication. In order to germinate
this potential within the amateur community, the AMS
Radio Scatter Program was created by Dr. David Meisel
in 1977. The purpose of this program was to establish
a network of amateur operated forward-scatter
receiving stations across a wide geographic area, each
station automatically collecting data on the incoming
meteor flux on a continuous 24-hr day basis. The data
collected from these stations would then be used in
the research conducted by AMS affiliated professional
astronomers. During the decade of the 1980's, this
program carried out experiments involving the
establishment of meteor radio scatter receiving
stations by groups of amateur astronomers, as well as
preliminary work in using microcomputers for data
collection. Notable successes included the work of
William Black (1983) of Florida; Michael Owen (1986)
of New York; and Meteor Group Hawaii
http://www.amsmeteors.org/mghawaii/ , led by Michael
Morrow and George Pokarney (1987). The most promising
results were the experiments performed by Kenneth
Pilon (1984), a Canadian amateur, who successfully
demonstrated that a TRS-80 personal computer could be
used to detect and make graphic printouts of meteor
events. 

Building upon the lessons learned from these previous
attempts, the first full-time prototype station for
the AMS became operational in March, 1993, utilizing
an economical Apple IIe platform for data collection.
This station was located in the rural countryside of
northwest Florida (Poplar Springs) , and utilizes
distant Television Channel 2 transmitters as its
signal source. In late 1993, the AMS Radio Scatter
Program was reorganized, and became the AMS
Radiometeor Project. For several years, efforts were
focused upon expanding the network, as well as
increasing the reliability and sophistication of each
individual station. Three stations were eventually
established, located in California, Florida, and
Virginia. Professional analysis of the collected data
yielded several conference talks and an extensive
paper in the European journal Planetary and Space
science. By 1998, the data collection computers were
significantly obselete to make further operation
impractible, and the network of active stations was
discontinued at that time. 

Although the AMS does not currently have an active
network of radiometeor stations, the society continues
to support amateur efforts in this fascinating aspect
of meteor science. For further information, contact
James Richardson [EMAIL PROTECTED] , the former
Radio Meteor Project coordinator. 



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[meteorite-list] Cool Ataxite on german eBay :-)

2003-07-24 Thread PolandMET.com
http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=3234880035category=44608

I firt time see ataxite like THIS one.
And this price hihi 150 000 euro

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[meteorite-list] Cool Eisen-shale on german eBay :-)

2003-07-24 Thread Robert Verish
Was bedeutet meteor-wrong auf Deutsch?

Okay?  I'll just make up a word:

Schrecklicheschlackestienen ...

... couldn't finish typing out the word - my hand
cramped-up!

;-)
Bob V.

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Re: [meteorite-list] Cool Eisen-shale on german eBay :-)

2003-07-24 Thread Walter Branch
Bob-

Es ist nicht so Klar, ya?

Vielleicht, meteorfalsch order vielleicht meteorunrecht order...

bis spater

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Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2003 2:40 PM
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 Was bedeutet meteor-wrong auf Deutsch?

 Okay?  I'll just make up a word:

 Schrecklicheschlackestienen ...

 ... couldn't finish typing out the word - my hand
 cramped-up!

 ;-)
 Bob V.

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Re: [meteorite-list] Fwd: Meteorite particles

2003-07-24 Thread Adam Hupe
Dear List Members,

I think this email might be joke but I found it to be entertaining so I will
share it with the list.  I received it two days ago and nobody will own up
to it.  I omitted the swearing.
***

Hupes,

You don't know me but I from Oakville Wash.  I reed about you dudes in the
local rag.  What is you're problem?  You govment types are all like one
each other.  My sister saw the light that was saw in Elma.  How can you said
it not is real.  How you deny the evidenc  I am no spelling bea but you
know what I mean   Don't not cover it up  Consperhersey, I said

Tell The truth Earl Macky


I tried to return a email to this guy but it was undeliverable.  Is somebody
out there just having some fun?  It worked because it made me laugh.

All the best,

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Re: [meteorite-list] Fwd: Meteorite particles

2003-07-24 Thread Pekka Savolainen
Well, this is statring to sound like Area 51 -case, government
types included, just the aliens are missing...;-
take care,

pekka

Adam Hupe wrote:

Dear List Members,

I think this email might be joke but I found it to be entertaining so I will
share it with the list.  I received it two days ago and nobody will own up
to it.  I omitted the swearing.
***
Hupes,

You don't know me but I from Oakville Wash.  I reed about you dudes in the
local rag.  What is you're problem?  You govment types are all like one
each other.  My sister saw the light that was saw in Elma.  How can you said
it not is real.  How you deny the evidenc  I am no spelling bea but you
know what I mean   Don't not cover it up  Consperhersey, I said
Tell The truth Earl Macky

I tried to return a email to this guy but it was undeliverable.  Is somebody
out there just having some fun?  It worked because it made me laugh.
All the best,

Adam





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Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorites of the AMM

2003-07-24 Thread Peter Marmet


Hi Frank , Allen and all,

many thanks for your answers.

To #5: Nininger writes in «Our stone-pelted planet» p. 35:
Diamonds in meteorites: Novo-Urei, Canyon Diablo, Magura.

To #13(?): «Our stone-pelted planet» FIG.33 shows a mexican barreta made of
meteoritic iron - but I couldn't find more infos.
(Any connection with #13?)

To #4, Melrose: See Allan Lang's great Meteorite Museum:
http://www.nyrockman.com/museum/melrose-26.4.htm
Someone (Nininger?) wrote on the AMM label: «Contains gold»

Who can help with 13,15 and 21?

Thanks again for all contributions

Peter M.






fcressy wrote:

 Hello Peter and all,

 Got most of the names of Nininger's meteorites, either from Find a Falling
 Star (FAFS) or the Catelog of Meteorites(COM). Need help and/or verification
 for numbers 5, 13, 15 and 21. A list follows:

  1. Baxter, 1916, Stone County, MO. (COM)
  2. Kilbourne, 1911, Columbia County, WI (COM)
  3. Branau, 1847, Czech Republic (Bohemia , p. 102, FAFS)
  4. Melrose(a), Found 1933, Curry County, New Mexico (p. 71, FAFS)
  5. probably Canyon Diablo (logical guess)
  6. Canyon Diablo
  7. Canyon Diablo (Camp Verde piece) (p. 8, FAFS)
  8. probably Plainview (1917), Hale County, TX  700kg.
  9. Johnstown, 1924, Weld County, CO (COM)
 10. Pena Blanca Springs, 8-1946, Brewster County, TX (COM)
 11. Holbrook, Navajo County, AZ
 12. Toluca (p.29, FAFS)
 13. ?
 14. Eaton, 1931, Colorado (p. 49-53, FAFS)
 15. Toluca?  Guess
 16. Hugoton, Kansas (749#) and Morland, Kansas (600#) (FAFS)
 17. Miami, 1937 Roberts County, TZ (p. 117, FAFS)
 18. Morland, 1890, Graham County, TX (p. 113, FAFS)
 19. Arispe, 1896, Sonora, Mexico (p. 163, FAFS)
 20. Plainview (1917), Hale County, TX (p. 94, FAFS)
 21. ??Couldn't find this but found a Covert stone covered a pickle
   barrel for 25 years ;-)
 22. Canyon Diablo

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  Hello list,
  in a booklet I found a leaflet of the American Meteorite Museum
  printed in 1946/47. Here Dr.H.H.Nininger tells his visitors
  what they can expect to see : Among many others - 22 famous meteorites;
  but he does not mention the names of these meteorites and I don't have
  the answers myself, so I thought it might be funny/interesting  -
  as a kind of test/challenge for some of you - to name those meteorites.
  Here are the descriptions of the meteorites you could see in 1946/47
  visiting
  the AMM:
 
  1. A meteorite that fell through a house roof in Missouri during World
  War I.
 
  2. A portion of another that fell through a barn in Wisconsin five years
  earlier.
 
  3. Still another that crashed through a bedroom where two children were
  asleep.
 
  4. The only gold-bearing meteorite in America.
 
  5. Diamonds in meteorites.
 
  6. The largest mass ever found in connection with the world's greatest
  meteorite crater.
 
  7. A meteorite that was excavated in an encient ruin of the
  cliff-dwellers. It was found wrapped in feather cloth and enclosed in a
  stone cyst.
 
  8. The world's largest known shower of stony meteorites-in Texas.
 
  9. Stones from a shower which almost broke up a burial service near
  Denver, Colo., in 1924.
 
  10. Portions of recent falls-one as late as August, 1946.
 
  11. 2000 stones which fell near Holbrook, Arizona, in 1912.
 
  12. An implement fashioned from a meteorite by a Mexican blacksmith.
 
  13. An Indian axe made from a meteorite- found in a ruin in New Mexico.
 
  14. The only known copper meteorite in the world.
 
  15. A group of meteorite hammer-stones from Central Mexico.
 
  16. Two of the largest stony meteorites ever discovered.
 
  17. A meteorite that was found doing service as a deadman in a fence
  on a ranch in Texas.
 
  18. Another one which did similar service in Kansas.
 
  19. A meteorite which served as an anvil on a Mexican hacienda for 25
  years.
 
  20. A meteorite which served as a weight in a pork barrel for 23 years.
 
  21. Another which was used on a kraut barrel for 23 years.
 
  22. Several tons of meteorites gathered from the vicinity of the famous
  Arizona crater.
 
 
  P.S: I like # 1 to 3 (Greetings from PF ;-))
 
  Peter Marmet, Bern
 
 
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[meteorite-list] Ouch, that hurt!

2003-07-24 Thread Walter Branch



Hello Everyone,

If anyone thinks a lapidary saw blade can't hurt 
you, take it look at this:

http://www.branchmeteorites.com/misc/thumb.jpg

Interestingly, I didn't even know anything happened 
until the slurry over the saw blade started taking on a reddish 
ting.

A combination of not enough sleep and too much 
cutting.

I'm taking my daughter toChuck-E-Cheese in 
the morning.


-Walter
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[meteorite-list] re: meteorites of the AMM

2003-07-24 Thread Marco Langbroek
 Who can help with 13,15 and 21?

Peter,

I believe there is a picture of the #13 meteoritic iron axe in the Handbook
of Iron Meteorites by Vagn Buchwald (3 vols., 1975).
Hope this helps you out!

- Marco

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[meteorite-list] re: listening to meteors

2003-07-24 Thread Marco Langbroek
I might add: besides the AMS and other amateur meteor organizations who run
or have run radio meteor scatter programs, I know Peter Jenniskens at the
SETI-institute is running a global radio meteor scatter network in which a
number of amateurs with automated setups (where the computer logs the
reflections) participate, and in 1997 he with Illka Yrjolla from Finland,
published a large overview of annual stream activity based on this in
Astronomy  Astrophysics. The network's function is most notably to detect
unexpected meteor stream outbursts. Don't have the AA ref. at hand
directly, but I am sure it will pop-up if you consult the NASA-ADS on the
web and it contains lots of info for the serious interested.

- Marco

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[meteorite-list] AW: Cool Eisen-shale on german eBay :-)

2003-07-24 Thread Norbert Classen
Hi Walter, Bob, and List,

The German term would be Scheinmeteorit - alles klar ;-?
However, Schrecklicheschlackestienen sounds familiar, too,
although you won't find it in any dictionary...

Best regards from good old Germany,
Norbert

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 Bob-

 Es ist nicht so Klar, ya?

 Vielleicht, meteorfalsch order vielleicht meteorunrecht order...

 bis spater

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  Was bedeutet meteor-wrong auf Deutsch?
 
  Okay?  I'll just make up a word:
 
  Schrecklicheschlackestienen ...
 
  ... couldn't finish typing out the word - my hand
  cramped-up!
 
  ;-)
  Bob V.
 
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  [meteorite-list] Cool Ataxite on german eBay :-)
 
  PolandMET.com PolandMET.com [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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  Previous message: [meteorite-list] The AMS Radio
  Meteor Project
 
 
 http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=3234880035categ
ory=44608

 I firt time see ataxite like THIS one.
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Re: [meteorite-list] re: listening to meteors

2003-07-24 Thread Pekka Savolainen
Hello, Marco and the list,

there may be some usefull links on;

http://www.ursa.fi/ursa/jaostot/meteorit/linkeng.html

at least link to Hirosho Ogava´s homepage in Japan.

Ilkka Yrjola´s very good homepage can be found from;

http://www.sci.fi/~oh5iy/

Also Esko Lyytinen in Finland co-operates with Nasa,
no homepage, but he can be reached by e-mail;
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take care,

pekka

Marco Langbroek wrote:

I might add: besides the AMS and other amateur meteor organizations who run
or have run radio meteor scatter programs, I know Peter Jenniskens at the
SETI-institute is running a global radio meteor scatter network in which a
number of amateurs with automated setups (where the computer logs the
reflections) participate, and in 1997 he with Illka Yrjolla from Finland,
published a large overview of annual stream activity based on this in
Astronomy  Astrophysics. The network's function is most notably to detect
unexpected meteor stream outbursts. Don't have the AA ref. at hand
directly, but I am sure it will pop-up if you consult the NASA-ADS on the
web and it contains lots of info for the serious interested.
- Marco

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Re: [meteorite-list] Re listening to meteors..

2003-07-24 Thread Marcia Swanson
In response to  another aspect of our hobby Thanks alot Mark,
appreciate your getting back to me and links. Best Regards, Marcie  : )

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Marcia  List,



I also found this link on using a normal FM radio (but it
would work with AM/SW) http://www.space.com/spacewatch/leonids_spacewatch_021115.html



Of course with the annual Persied
meteor shower coming up it might be worth try.





Here also is a list of annual meteor showers.. http://comets.amsmeteors.org/meteors/calendar.html





Have Fun! - Its
yet another interesting aspect to our hobby.



Mark








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Re: [meteorite-list] re: listening to meteors

2003-07-24 Thread Christian Steyaert
Also please have a look at http://www.rmob.org , with every month world
wide forward scatter reports.


Chris


At 22:47 24/07/2003 +0200, Marco Langbroek wrote:
I might add: besides the AMS and other amateur meteor organizations who run
or have run radio meteor scatter programs, I know Peter Jenniskens at the
SETI-institute is running a global radio meteor scatter network in which a
number of amateurs with automated setups (where the computer logs the
reflections) participate, and in 1997 he with Illka Yrjolla from Finland,
published a large overview of annual stream activity based on this in
Astronomy  Astrophysics. The network's function is most notably to detect
unexpected meteor stream outbursts. Don't have the AA ref. at hand
directly, but I am sure it will pop-up if you consult the NASA-ADS on the
web and it contains lots of info for the serious interested.

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Re: [meteorite-list] re: listening to meteors

2003-07-24 Thread Pekka Savolainen
well, me again...;-  Peter Jenniskens personal with links;

http://leonid.arc.nasa.gov/pjenniskens.html

best rgds,

pekka

Marco Langbroek wrote:

I might add: besides the AMS and other amateur meteor organizations who run
or have run radio meteor scatter programs, I know Peter Jenniskens at the
SETI-institute is running a global radio meteor scatter network in which a
number of amateurs with automated setups (where the computer logs the
reflections) participate, and in 1997 he with Illka Yrjolla from Finland,
published a large overview of annual stream activity based on this in
Astronomy  Astrophysics. The network's function is most notably to detect
unexpected meteor stream outbursts. Don't have the AA ref. at hand
directly, but I am sure it will pop-up if you consult the NASA-ADS on the
web and it contains lots of info for the serious interested.
- Marco

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[meteorite-list] Cool Eisen-shale - Off Topic

2003-07-24 Thread bernd . pauli
Hi Walter, Bob, Norbert and List,

Gotta get this off my chest before heading for the bunk:
 
 The German term would be Scheinmeteorit - alles klar ;-?

Does this translate back into English like that:

all-clear shining meteorite ???

  Schrecklicheschlackestienen sounds familiar, too,

Oh, I see: shriekly slagstons

 although you won't find it in any dictionary...

So let's publish one ... it's now or never ...

Where have I heard these words before ? :-))

Enjoying my first day of summer our vacations here !

Off to bed before it's too led ... sorry late ...

Bernd

P.S.: After visiting Germany, Mark Twain once wrote
in 1879 about The Awful German Language:

These things are not words, they are alphabetical processions.
And they are not rare; one can open a German newspaper any
time and see them marching majestically across the page - and
if he has any imagination he can see the banners and hear the
music, too. They impart a martial thrill to the meekest subject.
Whenever I come across a good one, I stuff it and put it in my
museum. In this way I have made quite a valuable collection.
When I get duplicates, I exchange with other collectors, and thus
increase the variety of my stock.

From: A Tramp Abroad (by Mark Twain)


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[meteorite-list] Gelatinous Blobs found in Oakville

2003-07-24 Thread Adam Hupe
Dear List Members,

This might explain Earl from Oakville's email.  Oakville is very much like
Area 51 according to these reports and it is only 14 miles from Elma.
Black helicopters and Biological Warfare seemed to be popular subjects in
Oakville.  These are must see web-site links below:


http://www.rense.com/ufo/flubber.htm

http://www.zetatalk.com/theword/tword05m.htm

http://www.chemtrailcentral.com/unsolved.shtml

http://www.mt.net/~watcher/blobs.html


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Re: [meteorite-list] Cool Eisen-shale - Off Topic

2003-07-24 Thread Walter Branch
Oops, forgot about Bernd being on the list  :-)

My apologies!

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Subject: [meteorite-list] Cool Eisen-shale - Off Topic


 Hi Walter, Bob, Norbert and List,
 
 Gotta get this off my chest before heading for the bunk:
  
  The German term would be Scheinmeteorit - alles klar ;-?
 
 Does this translate back into English like that:
 
 all-clear shining meteorite ???
 
   Schrecklicheschlackestienen sounds familiar, too,
 
 Oh, I see: shriekly slagstons
 
  although you won't find it in any dictionary...
 
 So let's publish one ... it's now or never ...
 
 Where have I heard these words before ? :-))
 
 Enjoying my first day of summer our vacations here !
 
 Off to bed before it's too led ... sorry late ...
 
 Bernd
 
 P.S.: After visiting Germany, Mark Twain once wrote
 in 1879 about The Awful German Language:
 
 These things are not words, they are alphabetical processions.
 And they are not rare; one can open a German newspaper any
 time and see them marching majestically across the page - and
 if he has any imagination he can see the banners and hear the
 music, too. They impart a martial thrill to the meekest subject.
 Whenever I come across a good one, I stuff it and put it in my
 museum. In this way I have made quite a valuable collection.
 When I get duplicates, I exchange with other collectors, and thus
 increase the variety of my stock.
 
 From: A Tramp Abroad (by Mark Twain)
 
 
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Re: [meteorite-list] Gelatinous Blobs found in Oakville

2003-07-24 Thread tracy latimer
Oh, for Pete's sake... having watched the paranoid delusions develop on 
Zetatalk about Planet X, and the Natinal Gubbmint Conspeeracee to conceal 
mind-altering Chemtrails, I hereby stamp this one with the Flying Pig award 
for Dumbness.

Government conspiracy coverup -- film at 11.

Tracy Latimer

From: Adam Hupe [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: [meteorite-list] Gelatinous Blobs found in Oakville
Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2003 15:01:12 -0700
Dear List Members,

This might explain Earl from Oakville's email.  Oakville is very much like
Area 51 according to these reports and it is only 14 miles from Elma.
Black helicopters and Biological Warfare seemed to be popular subjects in
Oakville.  These are must see web-site links below:
http://www.rense.com/ufo/flubber.htm

http://www.zetatalk.com/theword/tword05m.htm

http://www.chemtrailcentral.com/unsolved.shtml

http://www.mt.net/~watcher/blobs.html

All the Best,

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Re: [meteorite-list] Gelatinous Blobs found in Oakville

2003-07-24 Thread mafer
Just like the nerve gas foopah in Utah?
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 Oh, for Pete's sake... having watched the paranoid delusions develop on
 Zetatalk about Planet X, and the Natinal Gubbmint Conspeeracee to
conceal
 mind-altering Chemtrails, I hereby stamp this one with the Flying Pig
award
 for Dumbness.

 Government conspiracy coverup -- film at 11.

 Tracy Latimer

 From: Adam Hupe [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 Subject: [meteorite-list] Gelatinous Blobs found in Oakville
 Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2003 15:01:12 -0700
 
 Dear List Members,
 
 This might explain Earl from Oakville's email.  Oakville is very much
like
 Area 51 according to these reports and it is only 14 miles from Elma.
 Black helicopters and Biological Warfare seemed to be popular subjects in
 Oakville.  These are must see web-site links below:
 
 
 http://www.rense.com/ufo/flubber.htm
 
 http://www.zetatalk.com/theword/tword05m.htm
 
 http://www.chemtrailcentral.com/unsolved.shtml
 
 http://www.mt.net/~watcher/blobs.html
 
 
 All the Best,
 
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Re: [meteorite-list] Cool Eisen-shale - Off Topic

2003-07-24 Thread j . divelbiss
Bernd,

Being from the hills myself...my natural dumb-looked-on-my-face response would 
be something like...

So, collecting meteorites is like collecting long, but different German 
words...then trading them on occasion when you have part-word duplicates? 

At least Mark Twain thought so. The German words really are scary looking. I'm 
always inpressed with anyone who knows more than plane yold inglish like me.

As always Bernd...thanx for sharing!

John



 Hi Walter, Bob, Norbert and List,
 
 Gotta get this off my chest before heading for the bunk:
  
  The German term would be Scheinmeteorit - alles klar ;-?
 
 Does this translate back into English like that:
 
 all-clear shining meteorite ???
 
   Schrecklicheschlackestienen sounds familiar, too,
 
 Oh, I see: shriekly slagstons
 
  although you won't find it in any dictionary...
 
 So let's publish one ... it's now or never ...
 
 Where have I heard these words before ? :-))
 
 Enjoying my first day of summer our vacations here !
 
 Off to bed before it's too led ... sorry late ...
 
 Bernd
 
 P.S.: After visiting Germany, Mark Twain once wrote
 in 1879 about The Awful German Language:
 
 These things are not words, they are alphabetical processions.
 And they are not rare; one can open a German newspaper any
 time and see them marching majestically across the page - and
 if he has any imagination he can see the banners and hear the

 music, too. They impart a martial thrill to the meekest subject.
 Whenever I come across a good one, I stuff it and put it in my
 museum. In this way I have made quite a valuable collection.
 When I get duplicates, I exchange with other collectors, and thus
 increase the variety of my stock.
 
 From: A Tramp Abroad (by Mark Twain)
 
 
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Re: [meteorite-list] Cool Eisen-shale - Off Topic

2003-07-24 Thread mafer
you should see the word for RF (radio frequency), its literally a string of
words describing what it is
Mark
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 Bernd,

 Being from the hills myself...my natural dumb-looked-on-my-face response
would
 be something like...

 So, collecting meteorites is like collecting long, but different
German
 words...then trading them on occasion when you have part-word duplicates?

 At least Mark Twain thought so. The German words really are scary looking.
I'm
 always inpressed with anyone who knows more than plane yold inglish like
me.

 As always Bernd...thanx for sharing!

 John



  Hi Walter, Bob, Norbert and List,
 
  Gotta get this off my chest before heading for the bunk:
 
   The German term would be Scheinmeteorit - alles klar ;-?
 
  Does this translate back into English like that:
 
  all-clear shining meteorite ???
 
Schrecklicheschlackestienen sounds familiar, too,
 
  Oh, I see: shriekly slagstons
 
   although you won't find it in any dictionary...
 
  So let's publish one ... it's now or never ...
 
  Where have I heard these words before ? :-))
 
  Enjoying my first day of summer our vacations here !
 
  Off to bed before it's too led ... sorry late ...
 
  Bernd
 
  P.S.: After visiting Germany, Mark Twain once wrote
  in 1879 about The Awful German Language:
 
  These things are not words, they are alphabetical processions.
  And they are not rare; one can open a German newspaper any
  time and see them marching majestically across the page - and
  if he has any imagination he can see the banners and hear the

  music, too. They impart a martial thrill to the meekest subject.
  Whenever I come across a good one, I stuff it and put it in my
  museum. In this way I have made quite a valuable collection.
  When I get duplicates, I exchange with other collectors, and thus
  increase the variety of my stock.
 
  From: A Tramp Abroad (by Mark Twain)
 
 
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[meteorite-list] Happy Canyon Meteorite Photo

2003-07-24 Thread MARK BOSTICK
Hello Everybody,  Just added a slice of the Happy Canyon meteorite (EL7) to my photo gallery. The photo showsa nice polished side and reflects its true color wellsomething not too easy with this strange meteorite. I've been adding Gallery photos to my website every few days, but since I had never seen a really good Happy Canyon photo on the internet, I thought some of you might be interested in looking at it.  http://www.meteoritearticles.com/colhappycanyon.html  Thanks, Mark BostickPlease visit, www.MeteoriteArticles.com, a free on-line archive of meteor and meteorite articles.