[meteorite-list] barely on topic - 20 questions
meteorite related in only the loosest of terms. check out this computerized 20 questions game: http://y.20q.net/anon naturally i wanted to see if it could guess a meteorite, and to my surprise this is how the game played: I am guessing that it is a meteorite? Yes , No , Close 19.Is it inorganic? Yes. 18.Is it usually colorful? Sometimes. Can it scratch? Unknown. 17.Is it smaller than a golf ball? Sometimes. 16.Does it have cash value? Yes. 15.Can you lift it? Sometimes. 14.Is it small? Sometimes. 13.Is it dangerous? Doubtful. 12.Does it get really hot? Sometimes. 11.Is it found in mines? No. 10.Is it commonly used? No. 9.Can it be placed on your head? Sometimes. 8.Does it have legs? No. 7.Does it weigh more than a duck? Sometimes. 6.Is it heavier than a pound of butter? Sometimes. 5.Is it manufactured? No. 4.Can you walk on it? Irrelevant. 3.Is it multicolored? Sometimes. 2.Does it come in different colors? Yes. 1.It is classified as Mineral. normally when I talk to someone about meteorites i get a 'meteor-what?' response more often than not. maybe this is a sign of meteorites becoming more of a common knowledge sort of thing... ? __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Happy birthday, Sylacauga!
The only meteorite proofend beyound any doubt to have hit a human fell 50 years ago, on Dec. 1, 1954: http://www.nbc13.com/news/3963209/detail.html Happy birthday, Sylacauga! Herbert Raab __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Happy birthday, Sylacauga!
Is any of the exact stone that struck that woman for sale? I've read about it. I think I'd like one that has enough meat on it for DNA testing. Bill -- Original message -- From: Herbert Raab [EMAIL PROTECTED] The only meteorite proofend beyound any doubt to have hit a human fell 50 years ago, on Dec. 1, 1954: http://www.nbc13.com/news/3963209/detail.html Happy birthday, Sylacauga! Herbert Raab __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Rocks From Space Picture Of The Day - December 2, 2004
ROCKS FROM SPACE PICTURE OF THE DAY: http://www.geocities.com/spacerocksinc/Dec_2.html __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Sylacauga and Mbale
The only meteorite proofend beyound any doubt to have hit a human fell 50 years ago on Dec. 1, 1954 Hello Herbert and List, Do not forget Mbale: H. Betlem (1993) The day that rained stones (ST, Jun 93, 96-97): A 4-gram fragment did hit a banana tree and then a boy from Doko on the head, but he was not hurt. Best wishes, Bernd __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Re: Sylacauga and Mbale
Bernd the living encyclopaedia Pauli wrote: Do not forget Mbale I did not forget that. It was not only descibed in ST, but also in The Mbale meteorite shower by Jenniskens et al. (Meteoritics, Vol. 29, No. 2, pd. 246-254, 03/1994), even including a photo of the boy and his stone. Still, I would not consider this to be proofen beyound any doubt. Would you? Keep looking up... ;^) Herbert __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] New 2005 Meteorite Calendar ad
A perfect Christmas gift With only a dozen 2005 meteorite calendars left, you should order now. Joshua Eisler from Cosmic Cutlery has produced a very small quantity of these calendars and they are going fast. Order direct with my PayPal link at the site below. http://www.meteoritelabels.com/2005.html Thank you. Roman Jirasek www.meteoritelabels.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
RE: [meteorite-list] Park Forest Ebay
now that gets me in the spirit! $100/g?! i can just hear those sleighbells jingling right down stegger. i will be gradually switching over to yahoo mail (it has 100 FREE megs of storage). please cc to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: "Comcast Mail" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "Meteorite list" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [meteorite-list] Park Forest Ebay Date: Wed, 1 Dec 2004 18:31:48 -0600 Here ya go . just in time for xmas Park Forest @ $100/ gram http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemcategory=19257item=5540398616 rd=1 Bob Evans __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Park Forest Ebay
concreteaceous chrondrite maybe??? i will be gradually switching over to yahoo mail (it has 100 FREE megs of storage). please cc to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "Comcast Mail" [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Park Forest Ebay Date: Thu, 02 Dec 2004 03:59:14 + Hi Bob, That's an interesting slice. Ridiculous price of course. I don't have any PF with chondrules like that and it's a really well taken picture for a seller with feedback of only 3. What do you think? Bill-- Original message -- From: "Comcast Mail" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Here ya go . just in time for xmas Park Forest @ $100/ gram http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemcategory=19257item=5540398616 rd=1 Bob Evans __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
RE: [meteorite-list] Happy birthday, Sylacauga!
was this supposed to be 4 or 4.5 billion years old? usually, the news opts for the more older choice. i will be gradually switching over to yahoo mail (it has 100 FREE megs of storage). please cc to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: "Herbert Raab" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [meteorite-list] Happy birthday, Sylacauga! Date: Thu, 2 Dec 2004 11:22:29 +0100 (CET) The only meteorite proofend beyound any doubt to have hit a human fell 50 years ago, on Dec. 1, 1954: http://www.nbc13.com/news/3963209/detail.html Happy birthday, Sylacauga! Herbert Raab__ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] New Moroccan fall
there not as rare as those saturm meteorites, that gently float down out of the sky like leaf. i will be gradually switching over to yahoo mail (it has 100 FREE megs of storage). please cc to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: David Freeman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Walter Branch [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] New Moroccan fall Date: Wed, 01 Dec 2004 13:28:18 -0700 Dear List; I propose the name of this new Maris or Jupiter meteorite to be "turnip-truck" after association with the finder. DF Walter Branch wrote: Hello Everyone, Here is an email I received recently (I receive this type every week). If anyone is interested in persuing this, let me know. You don't even have to travel to Morocco! -Walter Good day I have a meteorite wight about 5.4Kg. I have done initial test by Atlanta Laboratory, which confirm that it is come from Maris or Jupiter. It may need to be tested more for it chemical propriety. It is founded in Sahara desert. I would like to put in the market. Can you help me. I would be glad to send you a pic or meet with you. I live in Destin, FL - - Original Message - From: "Jeff Grossman" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 2004 1:43 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] New Moroccan fall This meteorite will be well documented. In fact, Dr Hasnaa Chennaoui, who was mentioned by Philippe Thomas earlier today and is describing it, will be one of two new members of the Nomenclature Committee beginning next month. Jeff At 01:31 PM 12/1/2004, David Freeman wrote: I have an idea, lets not start a new round of feeding the ducks match Patience is a virtue! DF [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Adam, Why hasn't the Morrocan half of team Lunar rock documented this new fall? I thought we would have had all the information, by way of your proteges, immediately. Regards, Bill __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list Dr. Jeffrey N. Grossman Chair, Meteorite Nomenclature Committee (Meteoritical Society) US Geological Survey 954 National Center Reston, VA 20192, USA Phone: (703) 648-6184 fax: (703) 648-6383 __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list__ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Caliche
Hello Everyone, Speaking of Caliche... Does the Caliche (form of calcium carbonate) that we sometimes see on desert meteorites replace the fusion crust that is present or does it form a layer over the crust? -Walter __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Caliche
Hello Walter, Caliche is a deposit and covers the crust. I have removed it from a few meteorites now and have found nice crust underneath. Caliche Is water soluble and therefore is the best way to remove it, just incase anyone wanted to know. : ) Thanks, Tom peregrineflier IMCA 6168 http://www.frontiernet.net/~peregrineflier/Peregrineflier.htm - Original Message - From: Walter Branch [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2004 9:11 AM Subject: [meteorite-list] Caliche Hello Everyone, Speaking of Caliche... Does the Caliche (form of calcium carbonate) that we sometimes see on desert meteorites replace the fusion crust that is present or does it form a layer over the crust? -Walter __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Strewnfield size
Paul Mc Cartney ;-) wrote: I'm doing some research and found a interesting anomaly. The strewnfield for Kendleton is 2 miles. Most strewnfields I've read about are normally 5-15 miles long for stone meteorites. Anyone heard of a 2 mile strewnfield? Here are a few strewn field data: Djoumine -- 4 km (= 2.6 miles) long Juancheng - 5 km (= 3.3 miles) long and 3 km (= 2 miles) wide* Wiluna - 4 x 2 mile strewn field Kokubunji - 7 x 2 km (4.6 x 1.3 miles) Thuathe - strewn field extending 7.4 by 1.9 km (4.9 x 1.26 miles) St. Robert - 7.5 x 4 km (5.0 x 2.66 miles) Portales Valley - elliptical strewn field approximately 7.72 km (= 5.15 miles) *other sources: 10.5 x 4.3 km The only one with a similar short long axis would be Djoumine. Best wishes, Bernd __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Caliche, See Photos
Hello Walter, and list You can have both situation, but generally it infects more the inside throught weathering cracks than replace the outside fusion crust. Look at www.caillou-noir.com/Caliche.htm I have 2 example of caliche. Best regards Michel FRANCO Caillou Noir www.caillou-noir.com BP 16, 100 Chemin des Campènes 74400 Les Praz de Chamonix FRANCE - Original Message - From: Walter Branch [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2004 5:11 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Caliche Hello Everyone, Speaking of Caliche... Does the Caliche (form of calcium carbonate) that we sometimes see on desert meteorites replace the fusion crust that is present or does it form a layer over the crust? -Walter __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Happy birthday, Sylacauga!
Hi all, Anyone have any Sylacauga to sell or trade me? Michael on 12/2/04 2:22 AM, Herbert Raab at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The only meteorite proofend beyound any doubt to have hit a human fell 50 years ago, on Dec. 1, 1954: http://www.nbc13.com/news/3963209/detail.html Happy birthday, Sylacauga! Herbert Raab __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Mbale
Anyone know if the stone in said photo was ever purchased? Where it is? etc. Michael on 12/2/04 4:41 AM, Herbert Raab at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bernd the living encyclopaedia Pauli wrote: Do not forget Mbale I did not forget that. It was not only descibed in ST, but also in The Mbale meteorite shower by Jenniskens et al. (Meteoritics, Vol. 29, No. 2, pd. 246-254, 03/1994), even including a photo of the boy and his stone. Still, I would not consider this to be proofen beyound any doubt. Would you? Keep looking up... ;^) Herbert __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Caliche, See Photos
Hi Michel, Nice pictures. Thanks very much. -Walter - - Original Message - From: Michel Franco [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Walter Branch [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2004 11:47 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Caliche, See Photos Hello Walter, and list You can have both situation, but generally it infects more the inside throught weathering cracks than replace the outside fusion crust. Look at www.caillou-noir.com/Caliche.htm I have 2 example of caliche. Best regards Michel FRANCO Caillou Noir www.caillou-noir.com BP 16, 100 Chemin des Campènes 74400 Les Praz de Chamonix FRANCE - Original Message - From: Walter Branch [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2004 5:11 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Caliche Hello Everyone, Speaking of Caliche... Does the Caliche (form of calcium carbonate) that we sometimes see on desert meteorites replace the fusion crust that is present or does it form a layer over the crust? -Walter __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Caliche
Hi Tom, Caliche is water soluble? I did not think that is was. I thought a product such as Lime Away was the best method to remove caliche. -Walter - - Original Message - From: Tom AKA James Knudson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Walter Branch [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2004 11:34 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Caliche Hello Walter, Caliche is a deposit and covers the crust. I have removed it from a few meteorites now and have found nice crust underneath. Caliche Is water soluble and therefore is the best way to remove it, just incase anyone wanted to know. : ) Thanks, Tom peregrineflier IMCA 6168 http://www.frontiernet.net/~peregrineflier/Peregrineflier.htm - Original Message - From: Walter Branch [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2004 9:11 AM Subject: [meteorite-list] Caliche Hello Everyone, Speaking of Caliche... Does the Caliche (form of calcium carbonate) that we sometimes see on desert meteorites replace the fusion crust that is present or does it form a layer over the crust? -Walter __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Oriented Amgala individuals
Hello all, Todays Rocks From Space Picture of the Day of the oriented Amgala individual brought a question to mind. In the May 2004 issue of Meteorite magazine, Martin Horejsi wrote: While the Bensour shower was filled with wonderfully oriented individuals, Amgala was almost devoid of them with just three found to date. Since that time additional Amgala individuals obviously have been found and brought to market. As an oriented Amgala owner, I'm curious as to the approximate number that now might be out there. So, if you fellow oriented Amgala owners out there don't mind sending me their information in, I'll go ahead and tabulate the results and then report to the list. As an aside, my oriented Amgala is a 32.5 gram stone. Cheers, Frank __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Oriented Amgala individuals
Hi Frank, Sounds interesting. Pictures? -Walter - - Original Message - From: fcressy [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Meteorite List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2004 12:33 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Oriented Amgala individuals Hello all, Todays Rocks From Space Picture of the Day of the oriented Amgala individual brought a question to mind. In the May 2004 issue of Meteorite magazine, Martin Horejsi wrote: While the Bensour shower was filled with wonderfully oriented individuals, Amgala was almost devoid of them with just three found to date. Since that time additional Amgala individuals obviously have been found and brought to market. As an oriented Amgala owner, I'm curious as to the approximate number that now might be out there. So, if you fellow oriented Amgala owners out there don't mind sending me their information in, I'll go ahead and tabulate the results and then report to the list. As an aside, my oriented Amgala is a 32.5 gram stone. Cheers, Frank __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] [OT] eBay Fraud Alert
Dear Listees: I received this today, and it's one of the more clever email frauds I've seen. The web-savvy will immediately spot it as a fraud when visiting the website. It's a pretty good fake, but you can see from the URL that it's actually a Korean web address. Anyway, since so many of you use eBay on a regular basis, just wanted to share this with you. Click on the link and check out the fake eBay sign-in site they've created. And all of that, just to find out your passwords : ) Regards, Geoff N. We regret to inform you, that we had to block your eBay account because we have been notified that your account may have been compromised by outside parties. Our terms and conditions you agreed to state that your account must always be under your control or those you designate at all times. We have noticed some activity related to your account that indicates that other parties may have access and or control of your information in your account. Please be aware that until we can verify your identity no further access to your account will be allowed.As a result,Your access to bid or buy on eBay has been restricted.To start using your eBay account fully,Please uptake and verify your information by clicking below http://signin_ebay_com_account.ministop.co.kr:7301/ebay.htmhttp://si gnin.ebay.com/aw-c gi/eBayISAPI.dll?Verify Regards, eBay Member Service **Please Do Not Reply To This E-mail As You Will Not Receive A Response** __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Oriented Amgala individuals
Frank wrote: So, if you fellow oriented Amgala owners out there don't mind sending me their information in, I'll go ahead and tabulate the results and then report to the list. There are 5 Amgalas in my collection - four of these show at least some flight marks: a) small broken individual (4.4 grams) / 70% fusion crust / brecciated / rear side warty secondary crust with roll-over lip b) small broken individual (6.8 grams) / 85% fusion crust /aerodynamical shape / broken faces exhibit slightly to medium weathered rusty patches c) individual (15.6 grams) with 40% primary and 60% warty secondary crust / roll-over lip d) broken aerodynamical individual (11.8 grams) with 50% crust and a few flight marks Best wishes, Bernd __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] [OT] eBay Fraud Alert
I 've been receiving this too. Do not answer of course. Best regards Michel - Original Message - From: Notkin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2004 5:54 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] [OT] eBay Fraud Alert Dear Listees: I received this today, and it's one of the more clever email frauds I've seen. The web-savvy will immediately spot it as a fraud when visiting the website. It's a pretty good fake, but you can see from the URL that it's actually a Korean web address. Anyway, since so many of you use eBay on a regular basis, just wanted to share this with you. Click on the link and check out the fake eBay sign-in site they've created. And all of that, just to find out your passwords : ) Regards, Geoff N. We regret to inform you, that we had to block your eBay account because we have been notified that your account may have been compromised by outside parties. Our terms and conditions you agreed to state that your account must always be under your control or those you designate at all times. We have noticed some activity related to your account that indicates that other parties may have access and or control of your information in your account. Please be aware that until we can verify your identity no further access to your account will be allowed.As a result,Your access to bid or buy on eBay has been restricted.To start using your eBay account fully,Please uptake and verify your information by clicking below http://signin_ebay_com_account.ministop.co.kr:7301/ebay.htmhttp://si gnin.ebay.com/aw-c gi/eBayISAPI.dll?Verify Regards, eBay Member Service **Please Do Not Reply To This E-mail As You Will Not Receive A Response** __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] RE: Oriented Amgala individuals
This is my oriented Amgala, enjoy: http://www.austromet.com/collection/Amgala13.9gA.jpg http://www.austromet.com/collection/Amgala13.9gB.jpg cheers, Christian IMCA #2673 www.austromet.com Christian Anger Korngasse 6 2405 Bad Deutsch-Altenburg AUSTRIA email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of fcressy Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2004 6:34 PM To: Meteorite List Subject: [meteorite-list] Oriented Amgala individuals Hello all, Todays Rocks From Space Picture of the Day of the oriented Amgala individual brought a question to mind. In the May 2004 issue of Meteorite magazine, Martin Horejsi wrote: While the Bensour shower was filled with wonderfully oriented individuals, Amgala was almost devoid of them with just three found to date. Since that time additional Amgala individuals obviously have been found and brought to market. As an oriented Amgala owner, I'm curious as to the approximate number that now might be out there. So, if you fellow oriented Amgala owners out there don't mind sending me their information in, I'll go ahead and tabulate the results and then report to the list. As an aside, my oriented Amgala is a 32.5 gram stone. Cheers, Frank __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
RE: [meteorite-list] RE: Oriented Amgala individuals
this my piece http://it.geocities.com/mcomemeteoritecollection/Amgala.JPG a pyramidal shape Matteo From: Christian Anger [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [meteorite-list] RE: Oriented Amgala individuals Date: Thu, 2 Dec 2004 18:54:44 +0100 This is my oriented Amgala, enjoy: http://www.austromet.com/collection/Amgala13.9gA.jpg http://www.austromet.com/collection/Amgala13.9gB.jpg cheers, Christian IMCA #2673 www.austromet.com Christian Anger Korngasse 6 2405 Bad Deutsch-Altenburg AUSTRIA email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of fcressy Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2004 6:34 PM To: Meteorite List Subject: [meteorite-list] Oriented Amgala individuals Hello all, Todays Rocks From Space Picture of the Day of the oriented Amgala individual brought a question to mind. In the May 2004 issue of Meteorite magazine, Martin Horejsi wrote: While the Bensour shower was filled with wonderfully oriented individuals, Amgala was almost devoid of them with just three found to date. Since that time additional Amgala individuals obviously have been found and brought to market. As an oriented Amgala owner, I'm curious as to the approximate number that now might be out there. So, if you fellow oriented Amgala owners out there don't mind sending me their information in, I'll go ahead and tabulate the results and then report to the list. As an aside, my oriented Amgala is a 32.5 gram stone. Cheers, Frank __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list _ Ricerche online più semplici e veloci con MSN Toolbar! http://toolbar.msn.it/ __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Caliche
Hello Walter and list, caliche is deposited by water. If you soak a meteorite in water for a few hours, the caliche will dissolve and can be scrubbed off with a soft brush. Thanks, Tom peregrineflier IMCA 6168 http://www.frontiernet.net/~peregrineflier/Peregrineflier.htm - Original Message - From: Walter Branch [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Tom AKA James Knudson [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2004 10:30 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Caliche Hi Tom, Caliche is water soluble? I did not think that is was. I thought a product such as Lime Away was the best method to remove caliche. -Walter - - Original Message - From: Tom AKA James Knudson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Walter Branch [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2004 11:34 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Caliche Hello Walter, Caliche is a deposit and covers the crust. I have removed it from a few meteorites now and have found nice crust underneath. Caliche Is water soluble and therefore is the best way to remove it, just incase anyone wanted to know. : ) Thanks, Tom peregrineflier IMCA 6168 http://www.frontiernet.net/~peregrineflier/Peregrineflier.htm - Original Message - From: Walter Branch [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2004 9:11 AM Subject: [meteorite-list] Caliche Hello Everyone, Speaking of Caliche... Does the Caliche (form of calcium carbonate) that we sometimes see on desert meteorites replace the fusion crust that is present or does it form a layer over the crust? -Walter __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] RE: Oriented Amgala individuals
I would share my crusted Amgala pictures with the list, but I do not have an Amgala, so it makes it darn near impossible Thanks, Tom peregrineflier IMCA 6168 http://www.frontiernet.net/~peregrineflier/Peregrineflier.htm - Original Message - From: Christian Anger [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2004 10:54 AM Subject: [meteorite-list] RE: Oriented Amgala individuals This is my oriented Amgala, enjoy: http://www.austromet.com/collection/Amgala13.9gA.jpg http://www.austromet.com/collection/Amgala13.9gB.jpg cheers, Christian IMCA #2673 www.austromet.com Christian Anger Korngasse 6 2405 Bad Deutsch-Altenburg AUSTRIA email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of fcressy Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2004 6:34 PM To: Meteorite List Subject: [meteorite-list] Oriented Amgala individuals Hello all, Todays Rocks From Space Picture of the Day of the oriented Amgala individual brought a question to mind. In the May 2004 issue of Meteorite magazine, Martin Horejsi wrote: While the Bensour shower was filled with wonderfully oriented individuals, Amgala was almost devoid of them with just three found to date. Since that time additional Amgala individuals obviously have been found and brought to market. As an oriented Amgala owner, I'm curious as to the approximate number that now might be out there. So, if you fellow oriented Amgala owners out there don't mind sending me their information in, I'll go ahead and tabulate the results and then report to the list. As an aside, my oriented Amgala is a 32.5 gram stone. Cheers, Frank __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Sylacauga and Mbale
And Chiang Khan, which hit a fisherman on his boat. http://www.meteorite-oliver.com/index.html (charity..X-mas!!) Martin - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2004 1:27 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Sylacauga and Mbale The only meteorite proofend beyound any doubt to have hit a human fell 50 years ago on Dec. 1, 1954 Hello Herbert and List, Do not forget Mbale: H. Betlem (1993) The day that rained stones (ST, Jun 93, 96-97): A 4-gram fragment did hit a banana tree and then a boy from Doko on the head, but he was not hurt. Best wishes, Bernd __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] [OT] eBay Fraud Alert
For both eBay and PayPal, I've been receiving such fraudulant mailings at least once a month. You can always report them to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED] If you do, you will received an acknowledgment and/or reply stating that the email is fraudulant. Basically, almost ANYTHING/EVERYTHING that claims to be from either is likely to be a fraud. Be careful. Don Edwards Houston, TX __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Strewnfield size
Dear Bernd; Interesting anomaly...how about being named Paul McCartney ;-) Rock Springs L-6 strewnfield length: 0 ...a strewnfield of one. Very best, Dave F. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Paul Mc Cartney ;-) wrote: I'm doing some research and found a interesting anomaly. The strewnfield for Kendleton is 2 miles. Most strewnfields I've read about are normally 5-15 miles long for stone meteorites. Anyone heard of a 2 mile strewnfield? Here are a few strewn field data: Djoumine -- 4 km (= 2.6 miles) long Juancheng - 5 km (= 3.3 miles) long and 3 km (= 2 miles) wide* Wiluna - 4 x 2 mile strewn field Kokubunji - 7 x 2 km (4.6 x 1.3 miles) Thuathe - strewn field extending 7.4 by 1.9 km (4.9 x 1.26 miles) St. Robert - 7.5 x 4 km (5.0 x 2.66 miles) Portales Valley - elliptical strewn field approximately 7.72 km (= 5.15 miles) *other sources: 10.5 x 4.3 km The only one with a similar short long axis would be Djoumine. Best wishes, Bernd __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Announcing NWA 3128
Hello List Members, Check out this pristine xenolith: http://www.lunarrock.com/nwa3128/nwa3128.jpg Last piece left on ebay that describes this strange meteorite: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=2290595155 We just wanted to give List members an opportunity to check out this cool meteorite before all is gone. Three of the four listed pieces have already been sold with buy-it-now. Sorry, can't answer too many questions right now because I am preparing for an expedition. I will post a picture of a complete slice when I return and answer any questions. All the best, Adam Hupe The Hupe Collection Team LunarRock IMCA 2185 [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Sale and/or Photos - Oriented Amgala individuals
Dear Frank and List, This is a fun subject. I knew I had a few oriented Amgala's in my collection, but when I looked through the 3 kilos or so of material I have, I found that I have 20 oriented Amgala's. Most are 100% crusted and have excellent features such as lip-over, flow lines and frothing, along with some that have a nice florescent sheen on the trailing end. There are a few that are just the beginning of orientation where you can see the black, thicker crust starting to roll over the less burnt brown layer. Since I have so many, there is no need for me to hold all of these. What I will do is consider the highest offer on any of these 20 specimens. I will review all offers until Monday, December 6, 11:00PM EST (USA). I will contact the highest bidder and let them know if I accept their offer. I will most likely accept the highest bids so do not be bashful with your offers. I will not end one early as to give everyone a fair chance to make an offer up until the deadline. Here is the list with picture links, even if you do not want to make an offer, they are worth looking at: 33.3g 100% crust, lip-over, flow lines, frothing http://www.lunarrock.com/12-2/dsc1.jpg 2.4g 100% crust, lip-over, flow lines http://www.lunarrock.com/12-2/dsc4.jpg 4.1g 100% crust, lip-over http://www.lunarrock.com/12-2/dsc6.jpg 5.7g 99% crust, lip-over http://www.lunarrock.com/12-2/dsc8.jpg 4.8g 100% crust, lip-over, frothing, florescent sheen http://www.lunarrock.com/12-2/dsc00010.jpg 5.5g 96% Primary, 4% Secondary crusts, lip-over http://www.lunarrock.com/12-2/dsc00012.jpg 2.5g 55% crust, lip-over, flow lines http://www.lunarrock.com/12-2/dsc00014.jpg 11.5g 100% crust, lip-over, flow lines, frothing http://www.lunarrock.com/12-2/dsc00016.jpg 6.5g 99% crust, lip-over http://www.lunarrock.com/12-2/dsc00018.jpg 7.2g 70% Primary, 30% Secondary crusts, lip-over http://www.lunarrock.com/12-2/dsc00020.jpg 16.1g 100% crust, lip-over, flow lines, frothing http://www.lunarrock.com/12-2/dsc00022.jpg 10.2g 98% crust, lip-over, frothing http://www.lunarrock.com/12-2/dsc00024.jpg 13.9g 99% crust, lip-over http://www.lunarrock.com/12-2/dsc00026.jpg 7.6g 90% Primary, 8% Secondary crusts, lip-over, florescent sheen http://www.lunarrock.com/12-2/dsc00028.jpg 20.7g 85% Primary, 15% Secondary crusts, lip-over http://www.lunarrock.com/12-2/dsc00030.jpg 54.5g 100% crust, lip-over http://www.lunarrock.com/12-2/dsc00032.jpg 45.6g 100% crust, lip-over, frothing http://www.lunarrock.com/12-2/dsc00034.jpg 94.6g 80% crust, lip-over, flow lines http://www.lunarrock.com/12-2/dsc00036.jpg 58g 95% crust, lip-over, some exterior oxidation http://www.lunarrock.com/12-2/dsc00039.jpg 260g 99% crust, lip-over http://www.lunarrock.com/12-2/dsc00041.jpg Email your highest offers to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and include the weight and/or the picture link so I can accurately track them. I will contact the highest bidders Monday evening or Tuesday. NOTE: I retain the right to refuse any offer. Thank you for looking and good luck to the highest bidders, Greg Hupe The Hupe Collection [EMAIL PROTECTED] naturesvault (eBay) - Original Message - From: fcressy [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Meteorite List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2004 11:33 AM Subject: [meteorite-list] Oriented Amgala individuals Hello all, Todays Rocks From Space Picture of the Day of the oriented Amgala individual brought a question to mind. In the May 2004 issue of Meteorite magazine, Martin Horejsi wrote: While the Bensour shower was filled with wonderfully oriented individuals, Amgala was almost devoid of them with just three found to date. Since that time additional Amgala individuals obviously have been found and brought to market. As an oriented Amgala owner, I'm curious as to the approximate number that now might be out there. So, if you fellow oriented Amgala owners out there don't mind sending me their information in, I'll go ahead and tabulate the results and then report to the list. As an aside, my oriented Amgala is a 32.5 gram stone. Cheers, Frank __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] re: Mbale
Anyone know if the stone in said photo was ever purchased? Where it is? etc. Michael Yes, it was purchased. To the best of my knowledge, it is still in the posession of Hans Betlem, who did the Mbale fieldwork in 1992. - Marco -- Dr Marco Langbroek Dutch Meteor Society (DMS) Leiden, the Netherlands 52.15896 N, 4.48884 E (WGS 84) e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] DMS website: http://www.dmsweb.org priv. website: http://home.wanadoo.nl/marco.langbroek -- __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Announcing NWA 3128
Isn't it a pity that this extraordinary meteorite has been cut into pieces that have nothing left from the character of this truly amazing stone? I hope you kept at least one slice that shows what made this meteorite so special... On Thursday 02 December 2004 20:59, Adam Hupe wrote: Hello List Members, Check out this pristine xenolith: http://www.lunarrock.com/nwa3128/nwa3128.jpg Last piece left on ebay that describes this strange meteorite: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=2290595155 We just wanted to give List members an opportunity to check out this cool meteorite before all is gone. Three of the four listed pieces have already been sold with buy-it-now. Sorry, can't answer too many questions right now because I am preparing for an expedition. I will post a picture of a complete slice when I return and answer any questions. All the best, Adam Hupe The Hupe Collection Team LunarRock IMCA 2185 [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list -- Best regards, Bernhard Rems -- Hub to the Meteorite Sites: http://meteoritecollecting.com Meteorite Auctions: http://metsale.com Meteorite Gallery: http://meteoritegallery.com Meteorite News: http://meteoritenews.com Meteorite Discussions: http://worldofmeteorites.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Announcing NWA 3128
Hi Bernhard, I can appreciate your concern for preserving a meteorite's character. Believe me, Adam and I both have slices that have the xenolith's in them. We're not butchers you know :-) I can provide photos if you like. Take care, Greg - Original Message - From: Bernhard Rems [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2004 3:02 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Announcing NWA 3128 Isn't it a pity that this extraordinary meteorite has been cut into pieces that have nothing left from the character of this truly amazing stone? I hope you kept at least one slice that shows what made this meteorite so special... On Thursday 02 December 2004 20:59, Adam Hupe wrote: Hello List Members, Check out this pristine xenolith: http://www.lunarrock.com/nwa3128/nwa3128.jpg Last piece left on ebay that describes this strange meteorite: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=2290595155 We just wanted to give List members an opportunity to check out this cool meteorite before all is gone. Three of the four listed pieces have already been sold with buy-it-now. Sorry, can't answer too many questions right now because I am preparing for an expedition. I will post a picture of a complete slice when I return and answer any questions. All the best, Adam Hupe The Hupe Collection Team LunarRock IMCA 2185 [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list -- Best regards, Bernhard Rems -- Hub to the Meteorite Sites: http://meteoritecollecting.com Meteorite Auctions: http://metsale.com Meteorite Gallery: http://meteoritegallery.com Meteorite News: http://meteoritenews.com Meteorite Discussions: http://worldofmeteorites.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] main mass of amgala
hello list i have head there months abaout a nice 2.7 kilos of amgala that should be the main mass but after tracking here photo, i haven't seen them. may be i will be in tucson next year and i would love to see it even in photo before tucson that would be good , all the best aziz _ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Announcing NWA 3128
the xenolith looks like the NWA CV3 material out there. That is a cool feature. John -- Original message from Bernhard Rems [EMAIL PROTECTED]: -- Isn't it a pity that this extraordinary meteorite has been cut into pieces that have nothing left from the character of this truly amazing stone? I hope you kept at least one slice that shows what made this meteorite so special... On Thursday 02 December 2004 20:59, Adam Hupe wrote: Hello List Members, Check out this pristine xenolith: http://www.lunarrock.com/nwa3128/nwa3128.jpg Last piece left on ebay that describes this strange meteorite: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=2290595155 We just wanted to give List members an opportunity to check out this cool meteorite before all is gone. Three of the four listed pieces have already been sold with buy-it-now. Sorry, can't answer too many questions right now because I am preparing for an expedition. I will post a picture of a complete slice when I return and answer any questions. All the best, Adam Hupe The Hupe Collection Team LunarRock IMCA 2185 [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list -- Best regards, Bernhard Rems -- Hub to the Meteorite Sites: http://meteoritecollecting.com Meteorite Auctions: http://metsale.com Meteorite Gallery: http://meteoritegallery.com Meteorite News: http://meteoritenews.com Meteorite Discussions: http://worldofmeteorites.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Sale and/or Photos - Oriented Amgala individuals
Hi Greg, I notice that the Amgalas in your photos look very brown. Some other photos posted to the list show a very black fusion crust. Is it a difference in the amount of weathering? Thanks, Mike Fowler Chicago Dear Frank and List, This is a fun subject. I knew I had a few oriented Amgala's in my collection, but when I looked through the 3 kilos or so of material I have, I found that I have 20 oriented Amgala's. Most are 100% crusted and have excellent features such as lip-over, flow lines and frothing, along with some that have a nice florescent sheen on the trailing end. There are a few that are just the beginning of orientation where you can see the black, thicker crust starting to roll over the less burnt brown layer. Since I have so many, there is no need for me to hold all of these. What I will do is consider the highest offer on any of these 20 specimens. I will review all offers until Monday, December 6, 11:00PM EST (USA). I will contact the highest bidder and let them know if I accept their offer. I will most likely accept the highest bids so do not be bashful with your offers. I will not end one early as to give everyone a fair chance to make an offer up until the deadline. Here is the list with picture links, even if you do not want to make an offer, they are worth looking at: 33.3g 100% crust, lip-over, flow lines, frothing http://www.lunarrock.com/12-2/dsc1.jpg 2.4g 100% crust, lip-over, flow lines http://www.lunarrock.com/12-2/dsc4.jpg 4.1g 100% crust, lip-over http://www.lunarrock.com/12-2/dsc6.jpg 5.7g 99% crust, lip-over http://www.lunarrock.com/12-2/dsc8.jpg 4.8g 100% crust, lip-over, frothing, florescent sheen http://www.lunarrock.com/12-2/dsc00010.jpg 5.5g 96% Primary, 4% Secondary crusts, lip-over http://www.lunarrock.com/12-2/dsc00012.jpg 2.5g 55% crust, lip-over, flow lines http://www.lunarrock.com/12-2/dsc00014.jpg 11.5g 100% crust, lip-over, flow lines, frothing http://www.lunarrock.com/12-2/dsc00016.jpg 6.5g 99% crust, lip-over http://www.lunarrock.com/12-2/dsc00018.jpg 7.2g 70% Primary, 30% Secondary crusts, lip-over http://www.lunarrock.com/12-2/dsc00020.jpg 16.1g 100% crust, lip-over, flow lines, frothing http://www.lunarrock.com/12-2/dsc00022.jpg 10.2g 98% crust, lip-over, frothing http://www.lunarrock.com/12-2/dsc00024.jpg 13.9g 99% crust, lip-over http://www.lunarrock.com/12-2/dsc00026.jpg 7.6g 90% Primary, 8% Secondary crusts, lip-over, florescent sheen http://www.lunarrock.com/12-2/dsc00028.jpg 20.7g 85% Primary, 15% Secondary crusts, lip-over http://www.lunarrock.com/12-2/dsc00030.jpg 54.5g 100% crust, lip-over http://www.lunarrock.com/12-2/dsc00032.jpg 45.6g 100% crust, lip-over, frothing http://www.lunarrock.com/12-2/dsc00034.jpg 94.6g 80% crust, lip-over, flow lines http://www.lunarrock.com/12-2/dsc00036.jpg 58g 95% crust, lip-over, some exterior oxidation http://www.lunarrock.com/12-2/dsc00039.jpg 260g 99% crust, lip-over http://www.lunarrock.com/12-2/dsc00041.jpg Email your highest offers to gmhupe at tampabay.rr.com and include the weight and/or the picture link so I can accurately track them. I will contact the highest bidders Monday evening or Tuesday. NOTE: I retain the right to refuse any offer. Thank you for looking and good luck to the highest bidders, Greg Hupe The Hupe Collection gmhupe at tampabay.rr.com naturesvault (eBay) - Original Message - From: fcressy fcressy at prodigy.net To: Meteorite List meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2004 11:33 AM Subject: [meteorite-list] Oriented Amgala individuals Hello all, Todays Rocks From Space Picture of the Day of the oriented Amgala individual brought a question to mind. In the May 2004 issue of Meteorite __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Sale and/or Photos - Oriented Amgala individuals
Michael: This isn't really in regard to Amgala...but I have seen this brown crust on really REALLY fresh stones sometimes. For example to Worden meteorite had one side that was light brown in color as compared to the rest of the piece. My Park Forest piece is like this as well. It always is the trailing edge for some reason. Matt Morgan Mile High Meteorites http://www.mhmeteorites.com PO Box 151293 Lakewood, CO 80215 USA ebay id: mhmeteorites - Original Message - From: Michael Fowler [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Michael Fowler [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2004 3:19 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Sale and/or Photos - Oriented Amgala individuals Hi Greg, I notice that the Amgalas in your photos look very brown. Some other photos posted to the list show a very black fusion crust. Is it a difference in the amount of weathering? Thanks, Mike Fowler Chicago Dear Frank and List, This is a fun subject. I knew I had a few oriented Amgala's in my collection, but when I looked through the 3 kilos or so of material I have, I found that I have 20 oriented Amgala's. Most are 100% crusted and have excellent features such as lip-over, flow lines and frothing, along with some that have a nice florescent sheen on the trailing end. There are a few that are just the beginning of orientation where you can see the black, thicker crust starting to roll over the less burnt brown layer. Since I have so many, there is no need for me to hold all of these. What I will do is consider the highest offer on any of these 20 specimens. I will review all offers until Monday, December 6, 11:00PM EST (USA). I will contact the highest bidder and let them know if I accept their offer. I will most likely accept the highest bids so do not be bashful with your offers. I will not end one early as to give everyone a fair chance to make an offer up until the deadline. Here is the list with picture links, even if you do not want to make an offer, they are worth looking at: 33.3g 100% crust, lip-over, flow lines, frothing http://www.lunarrock.com/12-2/dsc1.jpg 2.4g 100% crust, lip-over, flow lines http://www.lunarrock.com/12-2/dsc4.jpg 4.1g 100% crust, lip-over http://www.lunarrock.com/12-2/dsc6.jpg 5.7g 99% crust, lip-over http://www.lunarrock.com/12-2/dsc8.jpg 4.8g 100% crust, lip-over, frothing, florescent sheen http://www.lunarrock.com/12-2/dsc00010.jpg 5.5g 96% Primary, 4% Secondary crusts, lip-over http://www.lunarrock.com/12-2/dsc00012.jpg 2.5g 55% crust, lip-over, flow lines http://www.lunarrock.com/12-2/dsc00014.jpg 11.5g 100% crust, lip-over, flow lines, frothing http://www.lunarrock.com/12-2/dsc00016.jpg 6.5g 99% crust, lip-over http://www.lunarrock.com/12-2/dsc00018.jpg 7.2g 70% Primary, 30% Secondary crusts, lip-over http://www.lunarrock.com/12-2/dsc00020.jpg 16.1g 100% crust, lip-over, flow lines, frothing http://www.lunarrock.com/12-2/dsc00022.jpg 10.2g 98% crust, lip-over, frothing http://www.lunarrock.com/12-2/dsc00024.jpg 13.9g 99% crust, lip-over http://www.lunarrock.com/12-2/dsc00026.jpg 7.6g 90% Primary, 8% Secondary crusts, lip-over, florescent sheen http://www.lunarrock.com/12-2/dsc00028.jpg 20.7g 85% Primary, 15% Secondary crusts, lip-over http://www.lunarrock.com/12-2/dsc00030.jpg 54.5g 100% crust, lip-over http://www.lunarrock.com/12-2/dsc00032.jpg 45.6g 100% crust, lip-over, frothing http://www.lunarrock.com/12-2/dsc00034.jpg 94.6g 80% crust, lip-over, flow lines http://www.lunarrock.com/12-2/dsc00036.jpg 58g 95% crust, lip-over, some exterior oxidation http://www.lunarrock.com/12-2/dsc00039.jpg 260g 99% crust, lip-over http://www.lunarrock.com/12-2/dsc00041.jpg Email your highest offers to gmhupe at tampabay.rr.com and include the weight and/or the picture link so I can accurately track them. I will contact the highest bidders Monday evening or Tuesday. NOTE: I retain the right to refuse any offer. Thank you for looking and good luck to the highest bidders, Greg Hupe The Hupe Collection gmhupe at tampabay.rr.com naturesvault (eBay) - Original Message - From: fcressy fcressy at prodigy.net To: Meteorite List meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2004 11:33 AM Subject: [meteorite-list] Oriented Amgala individuals Hello all, Todays Rocks From Space Picture of the Day of the oriented Amgala individual brought a question to mind. In the May 2004 issue of Meteorite __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Sale and/or Photos - Oriented Amgala individuals
Matt, How about showing a picture of your Park Forest Individual. I thought I seen on your site that the piece was oriented Im sure we would all appreciate seeing it Thanks Bob Evans - Original Message - From: Matt Morgan [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Michael Fowler [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Michael Fowler [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2004 4:30 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Sale and/or Photos - Oriented Amgala individuals Michael: This isn't really in regard to Amgala...but I have seen this brown crust on really REALLY fresh stones sometimes. For example to Worden meteorite had one side that was light brown in color as compared to the rest of the piece. My Park Forest piece is like this as well. It always is the trailing edge for some reason. Matt Morgan Mile High Meteorites http://www.mhmeteorites.com PO Box 151293 Lakewood, CO 80215 USA ebay id: mhmeteorites - Original Message - From: Michael Fowler [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Michael Fowler [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2004 3:19 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Sale and/or Photos - Oriented Amgala individuals Hi Greg, I notice that the Amgalas in your photos look very brown. Some other photos posted to the list show a very black fusion crust. Is it a difference in the amount of weathering? Thanks, Mike Fowler Chicago Dear Frank and List, This is a fun subject. I knew I had a few oriented Amgala's in my collection, but when I looked through the 3 kilos or so of material I have, I found that I have 20 oriented Amgala's. Most are 100% crusted and have excellent features such as lip-over, flow lines and frothing, along with some that have a nice florescent sheen on the trailing end. There are a few that are just the beginning of orientation where you can see the black, thicker crust starting to roll over the less burnt brown layer. Since I have so many, there is no need for me to hold all of these. What I will do is consider the highest offer on any of these 20 specimens. I will review all offers until Monday, December 6, 11:00PM EST (USA). I will contact the highest bidder and let them know if I accept their offer. I will most likely accept the highest bids so do not be bashful with your offers. I will not end one early as to give everyone a fair chance to make an offer up until the deadline. Here is the list with picture links, even if you do not want to make an offer, they are worth looking at: 33.3g 100% crust, lip-over, flow lines, frothing http://www.lunarrock.com/12-2/dsc1.jpg 2.4g 100% crust, lip-over, flow lines http://www.lunarrock.com/12-2/dsc4.jpg 4.1g 100% crust, lip-over http://www.lunarrock.com/12-2/dsc6.jpg 5.7g 99% crust, lip-over http://www.lunarrock.com/12-2/dsc8.jpg 4.8g 100% crust, lip-over, frothing, florescent sheen http://www.lunarrock.com/12-2/dsc00010.jpg 5.5g 96% Primary, 4% Secondary crusts, lip-over http://www.lunarrock.com/12-2/dsc00012.jpg 2.5g 55% crust, lip-over, flow lines http://www.lunarrock.com/12-2/dsc00014.jpg 11.5g 100% crust, lip-over, flow lines, frothing http://www.lunarrock.com/12-2/dsc00016.jpg 6.5g 99% crust, lip-over http://www.lunarrock.com/12-2/dsc00018.jpg 7.2g 70% Primary, 30% Secondary crusts, lip-over http://www.lunarrock.com/12-2/dsc00020.jpg 16.1g 100% crust, lip-over, flow lines, frothing http://www.lunarrock.com/12-2/dsc00022.jpg 10.2g 98% crust, lip-over, frothing http://www.lunarrock.com/12-2/dsc00024.jpg 13.9g 99% crust, lip-over http://www.lunarrock.com/12-2/dsc00026.jpg 7.6g 90% Primary, 8% Secondary crusts, lip-over, florescent sheen http://www.lunarrock.com/12-2/dsc00028.jpg 20.7g 85% Primary, 15% Secondary crusts, lip-over http://www.lunarrock.com/12-2/dsc00030.jpg 54.5g 100% crust, lip-over http://www.lunarrock.com/12-2/dsc00032.jpg 45.6g 100% crust, lip-over, frothing http://www.lunarrock.com/12-2/dsc00034.jpg 94.6g 80% crust, lip-over, flow lines http://www.lunarrock.com/12-2/dsc00036.jpg 58g 95% crust, lip-over, some exterior oxidation http://www.lunarrock.com/12-2/dsc00039.jpg 260g 99% crust, lip-over http://www.lunarrock.com/12-2/dsc00041.jpg Email your highest offers to gmhupe at tampabay.rr.com and include the weight and/or the picture link so I can accurately track them. I will contact the highest bidders Monday evening or Tuesday. NOTE: I retain the right to refuse any offer. Thank you for looking and good luck to the highest bidders, Greg Hupe The Hupe Collection gmhupe at tampabay.rr.com naturesvault (eBay) - Original Message - From: fcressy fcressy at prodigy.net To: Meteorite List meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2004 11:33 AM Subject: [meteorite-list] Oriented Amgala individuals
Re: [meteorite-list] Sale and/or Photos - Oriented Amgala individuals
I notice that the Amgalas in your photos look very brown. Some other photos posted to the list show a very black fusion crust. Is it a difference in the amount of weathering? No its nothing more than THICKNEST of crust. You can see this on Gao and also on Amgala. Sometimes on broken sides where crust was burn too short to cover light interior of specimen or on back side of oriented specimens where this side was much less burned than front side of oriented stone. In Amgala this is good visible becouse intertior is verry light, fresh. Im sure that the best example here will be Bensour. -[ MARCIN CIMALA ]-[ I.M.C.A.#3667 ]- http://www.Meteoryt.net [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.PolandMET.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.Gao-Guenie.com GSM +48(607)535 195 [ Member of: Polish Meteoritical Society ] __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] (AD) ebay,meteorite sale, and campos sales
Hello and good evening list.I have 2 auctions ending tomorrow about 9 pm chicago time.A 36 gram slice of nwa 1827, and a 56 gram half-stone of nwa 1879.I also 4 on going buy-it-now campos sales stones also.I have all the big stones if anyone wants them.They are all at a great low, low price per gram.And finally I have my holiday meteorite sale on till the end of the year.With a 2 for 1 on anything you want.I pay shipping anywhere. steve = Steve R.Arnold, Chicago, IL, 60120 I. M. C. A. MEMBER #6728 Illinois Meteorites website url http://stormbringer60120.tripod.com http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/illinoismeteorites/ __ Do you Yahoo!? Send holiday email and support a worthy cause. Do good. http://celebrity.mail.yahoo.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Sale and/or Photos - Oriented Amgala individuals
Hi Mike and everyone, The brown crust is just areas that have not been burnt or melted as much as the blacker areas. My photos also make them a little washed out when, in fact, they are blacker than what they appear. Sometimes it is difficult to get accurate color with the darker or lighter meteorites (whole or cut). I did point out one that had some oxidation so you can definitely see the difference. Best regards, Greg - Original Message - From: Michael Fowler [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Michael Fowler [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2004 4:19 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Sale and/or Photos - Oriented Amgala individuals Hi Greg, I notice that the Amgalas in your photos look very brown. Some other photos posted to the list show a very black fusion crust. Is it a difference in the amount of weathering? Thanks, Mike Fowler Chicago Dear Frank and List, This is a fun subject. I knew I had a few oriented Amgala's in my collection, but when I looked through the 3 kilos or so of material I have, I found that I have 20 oriented Amgala's. Most are 100% crusted and have excellent features such as lip-over, flow lines and frothing, along with some that have a nice florescent sheen on the trailing end. There are a few that are just the beginning of orientation where you can see the black, thicker crust starting to roll over the less burnt brown layer. Since I have so many, there is no need for me to hold all of these. What I will do is consider the highest offer on any of these 20 specimens. I will review all offers until Monday, December 6, 11:00PM EST (USA). I will contact the highest bidder and let them know if I accept their offer. I will most likely accept the highest bids so do not be bashful with your offers. I will not end one early as to give everyone a fair chance to make an offer up until the deadline. Here is the list with picture links, even if you do not want to make an offer, they are worth looking at: 33.3g 100% crust, lip-over, flow lines, frothing http://www.lunarrock.com/12-2/dsc1.jpg 2.4g 100% crust, lip-over, flow lines http://www.lunarrock.com/12-2/dsc4.jpg 4.1g 100% crust, lip-over http://www.lunarrock.com/12-2/dsc6.jpg 5.7g 99% crust, lip-over http://www.lunarrock.com/12-2/dsc8.jpg 4.8g 100% crust, lip-over, frothing, florescent sheen http://www.lunarrock.com/12-2/dsc00010.jpg 5.5g 96% Primary, 4% Secondary crusts, lip-over http://www.lunarrock.com/12-2/dsc00012.jpg 2.5g 55% crust, lip-over, flow lines http://www.lunarrock.com/12-2/dsc00014.jpg 11.5g 100% crust, lip-over, flow lines, frothing http://www.lunarrock.com/12-2/dsc00016.jpg 6.5g 99% crust, lip-over http://www.lunarrock.com/12-2/dsc00018.jpg 7.2g 70% Primary, 30% Secondary crusts, lip-over http://www.lunarrock.com/12-2/dsc00020.jpg 16.1g 100% crust, lip-over, flow lines, frothing http://www.lunarrock.com/12-2/dsc00022.jpg 10.2g 98% crust, lip-over, frothing http://www.lunarrock.com/12-2/dsc00024.jpg 13.9g 99% crust, lip-over http://www.lunarrock.com/12-2/dsc00026.jpg 7.6g 90% Primary, 8% Secondary crusts, lip-over, florescent sheen http://www.lunarrock.com/12-2/dsc00028.jpg 20.7g 85% Primary, 15% Secondary crusts, lip-over http://www.lunarrock.com/12-2/dsc00030.jpg 54.5g 100% crust, lip-over http://www.lunarrock.com/12-2/dsc00032.jpg 45.6g 100% crust, lip-over, frothing http://www.lunarrock.com/12-2/dsc00034.jpg 94.6g 80% crust, lip-over, flow lines http://www.lunarrock.com/12-2/dsc00036.jpg 58g 95% crust, lip-over, some exterior oxidation http://www.lunarrock.com/12-2/dsc00039.jpg 260g 99% crust, lip-over http://www.lunarrock.com/12-2/dsc00041.jpg Email your highest offers to gmhupe at tampabay.rr.com and include the weight and/or the picture link so I can accurately track them. I will contact the highest bidders Monday evening or Tuesday. NOTE: I retain the right to refuse any offer. Thank you for looking and good luck to the highest bidders, Greg Hupe The Hupe Collection gmhupe at tampabay.rr.com naturesvault (eBay) - Original Message - From: fcressy fcressy at prodigy.net To: Meteorite List meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2004 11:33 AM Subject: [meteorite-list] Oriented Amgala individuals Hello all, Todays Rocks From Space Picture of the Day of the oriented Amgala individual brought a question to mind. In the May 2004 issue of Meteorite __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Caliche
Hi Walter I'm surprised this question hasn't come up more often. Its a common problem in paleo and archaeo dig sites and of course, they will most often have some undergrad attack it with dental picks and such so as to not loose any of the specimen, but other methods are usable for calcium carbonates, depending on your desire to attack it. Acetic acid would be one option, and although water is the solvent which put it there in the first place, its often slow. There are better acids for such, and I believe I heard someone say they used one of those products you mentioned like lime away or clr. But on any of these chemical removals, it sure wouldn't want to be done on something to be studied as there surely will be some interaction with the specimen. Mark - Original Message - From: Walter Branch [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2004 11:11 AM Subject: [meteorite-list] Caliche Hello Everyone, Speaking of Caliche... Does the Caliche (form of calcium carbonate) that we sometimes see on desert meteorites replace the fusion crust that is present or does it form a layer over the crust? -Walter __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Announcing NWA 3128
Hello John, Bernhard and everyone, Here are the pictures of a few samples of the xenoliths in NWA 3128 that you are asking for: 10.6g part slice with small xenolith http://www.lunarrock.com/12-2/nwa3128/dsc1.jpg 18.9g part slice with several xenoliths http://www.lunarrock.com/12-2/nwa3128/dsc2.jpg 20.2g part slice with large xenolith http://www.lunarrock.com/12-2/nwa3128/dsc3.jpg Enjoy, Greg - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Bernhard Rems [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2004 4:16 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Announcing NWA 3128 the xenolith looks like the NWA CV3 material out there. That is a cool feature. John -- Original message from Bernhard Rems [EMAIL PROTECTED]: -- Isn't it a pity that this extraordinary meteorite has been cut into pieces that have nothing left from the character of this truly amazing stone? I hope you kept at least one slice that shows what made this meteorite so special... On Thursday 02 December 2004 20:59, Adam Hupe wrote: Hello List Members, Check out this pristine xenolith: http://www.lunarrock.com/nwa3128/nwa3128.jpg Last piece left on ebay that describes this strange meteorite: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=2290595155 We just wanted to give List members an opportunity to check out this cool meteorite before all is gone. Three of the four listed pieces have already been sold with buy-it-now. Sorry, can't answer too many questions right now because I am preparing for an expedition. I will post a picture of a complete slice when I return and answer any questions. All the best, Adam Hupe The Hupe Collection Team LunarRock IMCA 2185 [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list -- Best regards, Bernhard Rems -- Hub to the Meteorite Sites: http://meteoritecollecting.com Meteorite Auctions: http://metsale.com Meteorite Gallery: http://meteoritegallery.com Meteorite News: http://meteoritenews.com Meteorite Discussions: http://worldofmeteorites.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Display systems
Recently I received more of Michael Gallant's wooden frames which house 2 x 2 acrylic specimen cases. I justed wanted to say that they look great on my wall in my office. He also carries several other display methods for your meteorites. If you haven't seen his site you should take a quick look: http://www.migacorp.com/meteorite_display.htm My frames have a black velvet background which he made for me as a request, you will have to ask him if the black is still available. Keep up the good work Mike! Best regards, Roman Jirasek www.meteoritelabels.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Check out eBay item 2291235659 (Ends Dec-05-04 18:52:09 PST) - Meteorite* New
Could this Campo be calling home? http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemcategory=3239item=2291235659rd =1 Regards, Michael Johnson SPACE ROCKS, INC. 380 Cleveland Street Pacolet, South Carolina 29372 Tel: (864) 578 5188 SPACE ROCKS, INC.: http://www.geocities.com/spacerocksinc/spacerocksinc.html ROCKS FROM SPACE PICTURE OF THE DAY: http://www.geocities.com/spacerocksinc/Calendar.html GALLERY: http://www.meteoritegallery.com/gallery/rfsdmp __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Let there be light, and let it be good!
Dear List; It is basically winter here, and the best light I have is direct sun light but alas, it is 0 outside with the wind chill, and it really gets to be aggravating to run in and out with a rock and camera each time I wish to click a picture/list a rock to sell. We have had past discussions about lumens and the correct length of light, and very expensive light bulbs. I now have a Nikon Coolpix 3200 new digital whiz bang camera (and I learned about it here, and highly recommend it to anyone). It has a setting for incandescent light, and fluorescent lighting. Before I become a carpenter and get all excited (I do that you know), would a pair of $10 fluorescent light tubes and a plywood box work for indoor pictures until spring can get here? Can I save a great deal of agony by asking the oh-wise-multitude here before I get out the hammer and saw? My picture quality can be seen on eBay at mjwy user IDthe yellow color is from the decreased direct sunlight coming in the window. Thank you all for any thoughts...I need enlightened drastically! Best, Dave Freeman mjwy with auctions running crazy. __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] [OT] eBay Fraud Alert
In a message dated 12/2/2004 11:59:08 AM Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: For both eBay and PayPal, I've been receiving such fraudulant mailings at least once a month. You can always report them to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED] If you do, you will received an acknowledgment and/or reply stating that the email is fraudulant. Basically, almost ANYTHING/EVERYTHING that claims to be from either is likely to be a fraud. Be careful. Don Edwards Houston, TX --- I have also received a few about my Citibank Account Funny thing, I don't have a Citibank account!! Anne M. Black www.IMPACTIKA.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] IMCA #2356, www.IMCA.cc __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] [OT] eBay Fraud Alert
Mmm...at least once a month I wish I could be so lucky how about 20 a dayfrom banks that I do not know about to plenty of paypal and ebay spoofs daily. BEWARE of all suspicious emails and be sure to forward all paypal and ebay spoofs to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and [EMAIL PROTECTED] so they can attempt to discover the amount of crap going around. Best, Dave F (with his cookies and javascript disabled to keep out other email/net crap from getting in/getting out.) Use a good spyware daily! [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 12/2/2004 11:59:08 AM Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: For both eBay and PayPal, I've been receiving such fraudulant mailings at least once a month. You can always report them to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED] If you do, you will received an acknowledgment and/or reply stating that the email is fraudulant. Basically, almost ANYTHING/EVERYTHING that claims to be from either is likely to be a fraud. Be careful. Don Edwards Houston, TX --- I have also received a few about my Citibank Account Funny thing, I don't have a Citibank account!! Anne M. Black www.IMPACTIKA.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] IMCA #2356, www.IMCA.cc __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Let there be light, and let it be good!
David, there are plenty of bulbs out the that simulate natural day light. Any photography supply store should have some. : ) Thanks, Tom peregrineflier IMCA 6168 http://www.frontiernet.net/~peregrineflier/Peregrineflier.htm - Original Message - From: David Freeman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: meteorite-list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: John Gwilliam [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2004 8:42 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Let there be light, and let it be good! Dear List; It is basically winter here, and the best light I have is direct sun light but alas, it is 0 outside with the wind chill, and it really gets to be aggravating to run in and out with a rock and camera each time I wish to click a picture/list a rock to sell. We have had past discussions about lumens and the correct length of light, and very expensive light bulbs. I now have a Nikon Coolpix 3200 new digital whiz bang camera (and I learned about it here, and highly recommend it to anyone). It has a setting for incandescent light, and fluorescent lighting. Before I become a carpenter and get all excited (I do that you know), would a pair of $10 fluorescent light tubes and a plywood box work for indoor pictures until spring can get here? Can I save a great deal of agony by asking the oh-wise-multitude here before I get out the hammer and saw? My picture quality can be seen on eBay at mjwy user IDthe yellow color is from the decreased direct sunlight coming in the window. Thank you all for any thoughts...I need enlightened drastically! Best, Dave Freeman mjwy with auctions running crazy. __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Reports Detail Rover Discoveries of Wet Martian History
Donald Savage Headquarters, WashingtonDec. 2, 2004 (Phone: 202/358-1727) Guy Webster Jet Propulsion Laboratory, Pasadena, Calif. (Phone: 818/354-6278) RELEASE: 04-385 REPORTS DETAIL ROVER DISCOVERIES OF WET MARTIAN HISTORY The most dramatic findings so far from NASA's twin Mars rovers -- telltale evidence for a wet and possibly habitable environment in the arid planet's past -- passed rigorous scientific scrutiny for publication in a major research journal. Eleven reports by 122 authors in Friday's issue of the journal Science present results from Opportunity's three- month prime mission, fleshing out headline discoveries revealed earlier. Opportunity bounced to an airbag-cushioned landing on Jan. 24. It is exploring a region called Meridiani Planum, halfway around Mars from where its twin, Spirit, landed three weeks earlier. Sedimentary rocks Opportunity examined, clearly preserve a record of environmental conditions different from any on Mars today, report 50 rover-team scientists led by Dr. Steve Squyres of Cornell University, Ithaca, N.Y. and Dr. Ray Arvidson of Washington University, St. Louis, Mo. Liquid water was once intermittently present at the Martian surface at Meridiani, and at times it saturated the subsurface. Because liquid water is a key prerequisite for life, we infer conditions at Meridiani may have been habitable for some period of time in Martian history, according to Squires, Arvidson and other co-authors. Formal review and publication this week of these amazing discoveries further strengthens the need for continued exploration by orbiters, surface robots, sample-return missions and human explorers. There are more exciting discoveries awaiting us on the red planet, said Dr. Michael Meyer, chief scientist for Mars exploration at NASA Headquarters, Washington. Opportunity and Spirit have driven a combined 5.75 kilometers (3.57 miles), nearly five times their mission-success goal. They continue in good health after operating more than three times as long as the three-month prime missions for which they were designed. NASA's rover team makes the resulting scientific discoveries available quickly to the public and the science community. One type of evidence that Meridiani was wet is the composition of rocks there. The rocks have a high and variable ratio of bromine to chlorine; indicating the past presence of large amounts of water, write Dr. Rudi Rieder and Dr. Ralf Gellert of Max- Planck-Institute for Chemistry, Mainz, Germany, and co- authors. Their paper and another by Dr. Phil Christensen of Arizona State University, Tempe, and collaborators report an abundance of sulfur-rich minerals in the rocks, another clue to a watery past. Clinching the case is identification of a hydrated iron-sulfate salt called jarosite in the rocks, as reported by Dr. Goestar Klingelhoefer of the University of Mainz, and Dr. Richard Morris of NASA's Johnson Space Center, Houston, and co-authors. Structures within the rocks add more evidence according to Dr. Ken Herkenhoff of the U.S. Geological Survey, Flagstaff, Ariz., and co-authors. Plentiful cavities, about the size of shirt buttons, indicate crystals formed inside the rocks then dissolved. Minerals carried by water formed peppercorn-size gray spheres, nicknamed blueberries, that are embedded in the rocks. Certain angled patterns of fine layers in some rocks tell experts a flowing body of surface water shaped the sediments that became the rocks. Several characteristics of the rocks suggest water came and went repeatedly, as it does in some shallow lakes in desert environments on Earth. That fluctuation, plus the water's possible high acidity and saltiness, would have posed challenges to life, but not necessarily insurmountable ones, according to researchers. If life ever did exist at Meridiani, the type of rocks found there could be good preservers of fossils, according to Squyres, Dr. John Grotzinger of the Massachusetts Institute of Technology, Cambridge, and co-authors. NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory, Pasadena, Calif., has managed the Mars Exploration Rover project since it began in 2000. Images and additional information about the rovers and their discoveries are available on the Internet at: http://www.nasa.gov/vision/universe/solarsystem/mer_main.html Information about NASA and agency programs is available on the Web at: http://www.nasa.gov -end- __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Conditions On Vast Plain on Mars Could Have Been Suitable For Life
http://www.news.cornell.edu/releases/Dec04/Science.Mars.deb.html Conditions on vast plain on Mars could have been suitable for life, Cornell rover scientist Squyres states in special Science issue FOR RELEASE: Dec. 2, 2004 Contact: David Brand Office: 607-255-3651 E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ITHACA, N.Y. -- Scientists have long been tantalized by the question of whether life once existed on Mars. Although present conditions on the planet would seem to be inhospitable to life, the data sent back over the past 10 months by NASA's two exploration rovers, Spirit and Opportunity, showed a world that might once have been warmer and wetter -- perhaps friendly enough to support microbial organisms. Now a Cornell University-led Mars rover science team reports on the historic journey by the rover Opportunity, which is exploring a vast plain, Meridiani Planum, and concludes with this observation: Liquid water was once present intermittently at the martian surface at Meridiani, and at times it saturated the subsurface. Because liquid water is a key prerequisite for life, we infer that conditions at Meridiani may have been habitable for some period of time in martian history. The article is one of 11 published this week (Dec. 3, 2004) in a special issue of the journal Science, authored by scientists connected with the Mars rover mission, several from Cornell and from the Jet Propulsion Laboratory in Pasadena, Calif., the mission's manager. The issue covers Opportunity through its first 90 days of exploring its landing site of Eagle crater in Meridiani Planum. This was before the rover drove to and entered the large crater dubbed Endurance, from which it is now about to emerge. Steve Squyres, Cornell professor of astronomy and leader of the rovers' Athena science team, is the lead author of the main paper, The Opportunity Rover's Athena Science Investigation at Meridiani Planum, Mars. In another paper, on which he is also the lead author, Squyres again refers to the geological record at Meridiani Planum as suggesting that conditions were suitable for biological activity for a period of time in the history of mars. In the article, In Situ Evidence for an Ancient Aqueous Environment at Meridiani Planum, Mars, he writes: We cannot determine whether life was present or even possible in the waters at Meridiani, but it is clear that by the time the sedimentary rocks in Eagle crater were deposited, Mars and Earth had already gone down different environmental paths. Sample return of Meridiani rocks might well provide more certainty regarding whether life developed on Mars. The Mars rover mission is not designed to look for microbial life but to look for evidence of whether conditions were once right for life. As Squyres recently stated, What we were seeking was rocks that were actually formed in liquid water so that we could read the record in those rocks, not just to say liquid water was on Mars but to learn something about what the environmental conditions were like, would they have been suitable for life and, importantly, do the minerals that were formed have the capability to preserve for long periods of time evidence of former life? That's probably the single most important thing we have found: evidence for minerals at Meridiani that are the kinds of things that are very good at preserving evidence of ancient life for very long periods of time. Opportunity bounced down on Jan. 25, 22 days after its twin, the rover Spirit, landed on the opposite side of Mars in Gusev crater. Last August Science published a special issue on Spirit. This is the first peer-reviewed presentation of the data from Opportunity, notes Jim Bell, Cornell associate professor of astronomy and the lead scientist for the rovers' Pancam color imaging system. Bell also is prominent in the special issue of Science, including his lead authorship of a paper, Pancam Multispectral Imaging Results from the Opportunity Rover at Meridiani Planum. When Opportunity landed on the red planet last January, the robot geologist sent back images of its landing site that were unlike any of the other places where earlier lander probes and rovers had gone. Instead of rusty deserts of dusty soil and boulders strewn to the horizon, Opportunity had landed in a relatively small crater in a vast sea of sand nearly devoid of rocks. Fortunately, an intriguing outcrop of bedrock presented itself nearby, which scientists hoped would be a sample of the original crust underneath the layers of dust. The scientists were not disappointed. Scattered among the outcrop rocks were large numbers of small, round mineral deposits that the Athena science team named blueberries. On Earth, such formations appear when large amounts of water course through rock layers, leaching out the iron--bearing minerals into small spherical rocks and granules. The rovers also detected large amounts of sulfate salt deposits. Enough
Re: [meteorite-list] [OT] eBay Fraud Alert
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Re: [meteorite-list] (AD) ebay,meteorite sale, and campos sales
Steve, Inquiring minds still want to knowwhat does a 2 for 1 sale actually mean? Everything is half-price? Double the price of the lowest TWO meteorites I want, pick another meteorite, double the price of it, divide byTWOsend ONE check? On your website it states, All prices firm and final. So what gives? What does 2 for 1 mean? Buy TWO, send ONE payment? There is no reference that I have found one your website that clarifies this. Curious Dave Still befuddled, Dave Steve Arnold, Chicago!!! wrote: Hello and good evening list.I have 2 auctions ending tomorrow about 9 pm chicago time.A 36 gram slice of nwa 1827, and a 56 gram half-stone of nwa 1879.I also 4 on going buy-it-now campos sales stones also.I have all the big stones if anyone wants them.They are all at a great low, low price per gram.And finally I have my holiday meteorite sale on till the end of the year.With a 2 for 1 on anything you want.I pay shipping anywhere. steve = Steve R.Arnold, Chicago, IL, 60120 I. M. C. A. MEMBER #6728 Illinois Meteorites website url http://stormbringer60120.tripod.com http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/illinoismeteorites/ __ Do you Yahoo!? Send holiday email and support a worthy cause. Do good. http://celebrity.mail.yahoo.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Brown and black crust
A wonderful example of the difference between black and brown crust shows my Bensour Individual. It is oriented. Take a look at this rollover rim and the change in crust appearance. http://www.austromet.com/CollnPics/BensourB.jpg cheers, Christian IMCA #2673 www.austromet.com Christian Anger Korngasse 6 2405 Bad Deutsch-Altenburg AUSTRIA email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Tagish Lake
Hello List After one more long and arduous trip through the Canadian cultural property permit system, I have some larger Tagish Lake meteorites to sell--or look at. You can see them on my website. Regards, Eric Twelker http://www.meteoritemarket.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Let there be light, and let it be good!
Dave, I'd suggest that before buying or building anything fancy you experiment with a couple plain ol' incandescent or halogen table or desk lamps at the dining room table. Set the camera for incandescent light and shoot. You might find the results to be quite good. Another point - flow lines and other surface features will usually show better if the light source is small, not large like a fluorescent bulb. Just for fun, turn on your digital camera so the electronic viewing screen is operating. Get your television remote controller, hold down one of the volume adjustment buttons and view the business end of the controller with the camera. The camera sees the invisible infrared. John Kashuba Ontario, California - Original Message - From: Tom AKA James Knudson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: David Freeman [EMAIL PROTECTED]; meteorite-list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: John Gwilliam [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2004 8:41 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Let there be light, and let it be good! David, there are plenty of bulbs out the that simulate natural day light. Any photography supply store should have some. : ) Thanks, Tom peregrineflier IMCA 6168 http://www.frontiernet.net/~peregrineflier/Peregrineflier.htm - Original Message - From: David Freeman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: meteorite-list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: John Gwilliam [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2004 8:42 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Let there be light, and let it be good! Dear List; It is basically winter here, and the best light I have is direct sun light but alas, it is 0 outside with the wind chill, and it really gets to be aggravating to run in and out with a rock and camera each time I wish to click a picture/list a rock to sell. We have had past discussions about lumens and the correct length of light, and very expensive light bulbs. I now have a Nikon Coolpix 3200 new digital whiz bang camera (and I learned about it here, and highly recommend it to anyone). It has a setting for incandescent light, and fluorescent lighting. Before I become a carpenter and get all excited (I do that you know), would a pair of $10 fluorescent light tubes and a plywood box work for indoor pictures until spring can get here? Can I save a great deal of agony by asking the oh-wise-multitude here before I get out the hammer and saw? My picture quality can be seen on eBay at mjwy user IDthe yellow color is from the decreased direct sunlight coming in the window. Thank you all for any thoughts...I need enlightened drastically! Best, Dave Freeman mjwy with auctions running crazy. __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
