Re: [meteorite-list] On the price of Huge size Nantan Iron-Nickel meteorites, Need advices
Hi, Dear Dirk Ross, Thanks for your pointing out some rules here and on Ebay, thank you, sir. And also, i respect your views on the authenticity or genuineness of Nantans from Chinese sellers. I'll follow you and offer the best meteorites at my best. However, for me, i think this needs a process to obtain the ability of identifying fake meteorites and hope you, sir, and other experts on the list can give me a hand. Many Thanks. By the way, sir, i am a Chinese gal with a english name called Bob and my real Chinese name is called Ma Lan (Lan is my name and Ma surname). I was born in Beijing, China and am still living here now. That's all. Hope you, sir, have a chance to travel in Beijing and i shall do my best to treat you hospitally and other members on the list as well. Welcome. With best regards Bob --drtanuki [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear List, If you take the time to look at Mr Bob`s email and eBay you will notice that he ranks up there with the 5 Ducks, and the other seller`s from China,Vietnam, Singapore, Thailand. Many of these so-called Nantans are iron concretions and have nothing to do with ever being a meteorite. His other items, Libyan Glass, have been discussed on the list prior. Before you start sending off your hard earned money to these Bargain Sellers think about it. I am sure Bob has a real name that he avoids giving for a very good reason. Best Regards, Dirk Ross...Tokyo Zhong Guo ren bu shi yao lai women de difang; fum pi guei!!! __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list Need a quick answer? Get one in minutes from people who know. Ask your question on www.Answers.yahoo.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list Do you Yahoo!? Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail beta. http://new.mail.yahoo.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] On the price of Huge size Nantan Iron-Nickel meteorites, Need advices
Dear List, Sorry this message was not cc: to List. Dirk Ma Shao-jie, Nin hao! Dwei bu qi wo shang ni shr nan ren; bao chen. Ru guo ni shang kan jende jiade yuen shi kan jhr li: Translation: Sorry I thought you were a man. If you would like to see real fake meteorites see these links: http://imca.repetti.net/metinfo/scam_met_park.html http://imca.repetti.net/metinfo/metscams.html If you are truely willing to learn you will find many people on the list that will help. If you wish help with meteorites or other rocks please ask. Xie-xie, Dirk Ross...Tokyo --- Email from Chinaren76 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, Dear Dirk Ross, Thanks for your pointing out some rules here and on Ebay, thank you, sir. And also, i respect your views on the authenticity or genuineness of Nantans from Chinese sellers. I'll follow you and offer the best meteorites at my best. However, for me, i think this needs a process to obtain the ability of identifying fake meteorites and hope you, sir, and other experts on the list can give me a hand. Many Thanks. By the way, sir, i am a Chinese gal with a english name called Bob and my real Chinese name is called Ma Lan (Lan is my name and Ma surname). I was born in Beijing, China and am still living here now. That's all. Hope you, sir, have a chance to travel in Beijing and i shall do my best to treat you hospitally and other members on the list as well. Welcome. With best regards Bob --drtanuki [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear List, If you take the time to look at Mr Bob`s email and eBay you will notice that he ranks up there with the 5 Ducks, and the other seller`s from China,Vietnam, Singapore, Thailand. Many of these so-called Nantans are iron concretions and have nothing to do with ever being a meteorite. His other items, Libyan Glass, have been discussed on the list prior. Before you start sending off your hard earned money to these Bargain Sellers think about it. I am sure Bob has a real name that he avoids giving for a very good reason. Best Regards, Dirk Ross...Tokyo Zhong Guo ren bu shi yao lai women de difang; fum pi guei!!! __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list Need a quick answer? Get one in minutes from people who know. Ask your question on www.Answers.yahoo.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list Do you Yahoo!? Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail beta. http://new.mail.yahoo.com Cheap talk? Check out Yahoo! Messenger's low PC-to-Phone call rates. http://voice.yahoo.com Cheap talk? Check out Yahoo! Messenger's low PC-to-Phone call rates. http://voice.yahoo.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] On the price of Huge size Nantan Iron-Nickelmeteorites, Need advices
If Your nantan have fresh iron inside, then its worth 150$/kg or more. But if its only piece of c.p, then its worth nothing. So Maybe it will be better to cut them in half or make small window to show Your customers that it is meteorite inside, not only weathered stone. -[ MARCIN CIMALA ]-[ I.M.C.A.#3667 ]- http://www.Meteoryt.net [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.PolandMET.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.Gao-Guenie.com GSM +48(607)535 195 [ Member of Polish Meteoritical Society ] __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] the new brazilian meteorite
Hello List, Anne, Svend, Mike, Steve... Happy to learn the recent history of the remaining 10 kg of Santa Vitoria (potentially available to collectors). I am the happy owner of a 446 g full slice of Santa Vitoria, recently got from Blaine. Extraordinary and showy pattern. Price not so far from the ~$3.00 gram, as Mike anounced (the gram price is indeed more favorable for higher weights). I also got a small very nice thin slice in Ensisheim, from Hans Koser who got it from Svend. I am keeping both in collection as they show complementary characteristics. Don't have pictures on hand but here are the descriptions (from my catalog): SANTA VITORIA DO PALMAR (R.G. Sul, Brasil, L3)(S3/4W2), fell 1997 (?), found: 2003-04. 25x25x3 mm partly crusted part slice (weight ?) involving a 12x8 mm tan clast composed of (almost ?) pure olivine. Detailed history on Bühl's web site. Updated in MB # 91. TKM: [EMAIL PROTECTED] kg. Ref coll: HK 06/478 SANTA VITORIA DO PALMAR (R.G. Sul, Brasil, L3)(S3/4W2), fell 1997 (?), found: 2003-04. 195x155x4 mm full slice, 446.0 g, crust all around, composed of (mostly) magenta-red chondrules, some metal-armored various clasts. Very colorful pattern. Ref. coll: BR 06/345 Just to stimulate the discussions...oh yes, Svand's article in Meteorite but especially his web site are so very imformative! Best wishes, Zelimir A 15:54 11/12/2006 -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit : In a message dated 12/11/2006 10:41:00 A.M. Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: only about 30 pounds! It is only selling for ~$3.00 gram, so there is enough to keep the price low. Mike --- steve arnold [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi list.I know that most of this new stone has been lost,and that a few people have most of the main piecs,but what is around for most collecters?I hear it is not alot.I am just wondering. steve __ Sorry to disagree with you, Mike, but there never was 30 pounds of Santa Vitoria do Palmar on the market. The only mass that was ever available was about 10 kilos, the rest went to a local museum. Of that 10 kilos mass, some went to the Humboldt University for classification, and to Dr. Svend Buhl for his own collection. And I got some from him in Ensisheim. In Denver you saw what remained of the main mass, about 8 kilos. It was purchased by Blaine Reed, Robert Cucchiara and myself. Robert and Blaine chose to have their third sliced by Marlin Cilz, about 2 and 1/2 kilos each BEFORE cutting. I kept mine whole, so I now have the main mass of Santa Vitoria, 2238 grams. Plus what I had previously acquired. So I probably have more Santa Vitoria than anyone else. And I am not selling mine at $3/gram. It is a beautiful L3 with lots of colorful chondrules, of all types and shades. Go take a look at the pictures on my Catalog! For a lot more information and the whole story of that meteorite, you really should take a look at Svend's site: _http://www.niger-meteorite-recon.de/en/Santa-Vitoria-meteorite-1.htm_ (http://www.niger-meteorite-recon.de/en/Santa-Vitoria-meteorite-1.htm) You too, Steve. Anne M. Black www.IMPACTIKA.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] President, I.M.C.A. Inc. www.IMCA.cc __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list Prof. Zelimir Gabelica Université de Haute Alsace ENSCMu, Lab. GSEC, 3, Rue A. Werner, F-68093 Mulhouse Cedex, France Tel: +33 (0)3 89 33 68 94 Fax: +33 (0)3 89 33 68 15 __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] 2007 Tucson Meteorite Auction Catalog Up (Ad)
Hi All, Man, I had forgotten how long it takes to accomplish this, but the first draft of the Meteorite Auction is now up - some great items - still room for about 30 more high quality pieces. There are some absolute spectacular pieces and many, many other very seductive specimens - and only 7 of the 93 now up have a minimum bid. This is going to rock! Please do contact me if you have stuff you want to add. Best wishes, Michael - OH! Here is the URL: http://www.michaelbloodmeteorites.com/TucsonAuction07.html -- It is difficult to get a man to understand something if his salary depends on him not understanding it. - Upton Sinclair -- What gets us into trouble is not what we don't know. It is what we know for sure that just ain't so. - Josh Billings (but oft credited to Mark Twain) __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Rocks From Space Picture of the Day - December 12, 2006
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[meteorite-list] AD: A Meteorite Christmas
Hello List Members, I don't know about you, but I have only asked for meteorites (or money to buy them) for Christmas for the last 10 years. Well if you find that you are like me in this area I have a great deal for you. I am offering 20% off on my website until the 7th of January, 2007!!! I have also recently added about 75 specimens from my personal collection to my website. Sincerely, Jason Phillips Rocks from Heaven www.rocksfromheaven.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Look at this great auction!
http://cgi.ebay.com/_W0QQitemZ290059838558 This idiot looks like a great seller! It seems that stealing photos by linking your auction to someones elses website photos DOES NOT PAY! Well, I am on my way to Tokyo today. Mike Farmer Need a quick answer? Get one in minutes from people who know. Ask your question on www.Answers.yahoo.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Rocks From Space Picture of the Day - December 12, 2006
Hi All, don't tell me he is the finder of this huge space rock. Just kidding! Have a wonderful day and enjoy this holiday season! With best regards, Moni From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] Rocks From Space Picture of the Day - December 12,2006 Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2006 08:33:22 EST http://www.spacerocksinc.com/December_12.html _ Get free, personalized commercial-free online radio with MSN Radio powered by Pandora http://radio.msn.com/?icid=T002MSN03A07001 __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Look at this great auction!
Ha! that's actually quite funny! - Well done. (And an 'IMCA member' should certainly not be behaving like that, so they got all they deserve!) Best, Mark -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michael Farmer Sent: 12 December 2006 15:29 To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] Look at this great auction! http://cgi.ebay.com/_W0QQitemZ290059838558 This idiot looks like a great seller! It seems that stealing photos by linking your auction to someones elses website photos DOES NOT PAY! Well, I am on my way to Tokyo today. Mike Farmer Need a quick answer? Get one in minutes from people who know. Ask your question on www.Answers.yahoo.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Possible Micrometeoroid Hits Space Shuttle's Left Wing
http://www.spaceflightnow.com/shuttle/sts116/061211postmmt/ Engineers examine shuttle inspection imagery BY WILLIAM HARWOOD STORY WRITTEN FOR CBS NEWS SPACE PLACE USED WITH PERMISSION December 11, 2006 The Discovery astronauts used the space station's robot arm for a quick, unplanned inspection of the shuttle's left wing outboard leading edge panels based on sensor data indicating a possible micrometeoroid hit earlier today. John Shannon, chairman of NASA's Mission Management Team, said if the data reflected a real impact - and that remains to be seen - it was about 100 times below the threshold expected to cause any real damage. Television views from the station arm did not show any obvious signs of damage to the reinforced carbon carbon panels in question. The astronauts promptly moved on to using the shuttle's robot arm to pull a new solar array truss segment from Discovery's cargo bay for handoff to the station arm. The spacer segment will be attached to the end of the station's main truss during a spacewalk Tuesday. Shannon said data from a wing leading edge sensor, a post-Columbia system designed to detect possible impacts during launch or in orbit, recorded a 0.12-G hit around 5:30 a.m. Impacts registering 1 G root mean square are NASA's threshold for concern and that's 10 times less than the force required to cause serious damage. By that standard, the force recorded by the sensor on the left wing was some 100 times less than required to cause entry-critical damage. But Shannon said time was available in the crew's schedule to take a quick look and while I don't think anybody saw anything there, it was the right call to check it out. Of more interest, perhaps, is a photograph taken by the station astronauts earlier today during Discovery's final approach to the outpost. The picture shows an area of the shuttle's belly around one of the two propellant-line umbilical doors that close after the ship's external tank separates in space. The imagery shows a reddish, cellophane-like material extending from the door hinge line area and chipped heat-shield tiles just outboard of the door. As for the former, what the team thinks this is is some purge barrier material, said Shannon. It's a cellophane-type material that is put inside the external tank umbilical area and it keeps the (pre-launch) nitrogen purge in that area, it's basically like you're sealing it up, like a baggy, so when you get the N2 purge in there, it doesn't just go out in the atmosphere, it stays where you want it to stay. This stuff is ... like orange Saran wrap, orange cellophane. It'll burn off very quickly (during re-entry). The team is looking at it just to make sure the compression seal we get around (the door), that this wouldn't interfere with that at all. I think that's going to prove to be very true and it's not going to be an issue. But, of course, the team is still working it. As for the chipped tile just outboard of the door, it looks like we had some recirculating flow back in there (during ascent) and something was hitting those tiles and taking small chips out of them, Shannon said. Is this an issue? I don't know at this point. The team is working on it. I don't expect it to be a big deal. The thing we're always concerned about is if you had tile damage that goes across a seal. It doesn't look like it goes across a seal in any of these, it looks really shallow. But to be on the safe side, the imagery assessment team is going to meet at midnight tonight and determine if that's an area we'd like to look at some more, to go do a focussed inspection, or if they have sufficient data ... to clear that as no issue at all. As part of NASA's post-Columbia safety improvements, shuttle crews are now launched with repair materials capable of fixing relatively minor heat shield damage. But they would be asked to do that only if engineers believed the shuttle was at risk. The damage in question does not appear nearly that serious. Am I concerned about this? Shannon mused. Not really, not right now. But I refuse to short-circuit the team. I'm going to let them go off and do their analysis and we'll just take it a step at a time. Discovery docked with the international space station at 5:12 p.m. after a two-day orbital chase. After the impromptu wing inspection, astronaut Nicholas Patrick used Discovery's robot arm to pull the 4,110-pound P5 truss segment from the shuttle's cargo bay. He then handed the spacer segment off to astronaut Sunita Williams, operating the station's robot arm. Williams, a Navy helicopter pilot and diver, hitched a ride aboard Discovery to join the station's full time crew as a flight engineer. She replaces German astronaut Thomas Reiter, who was launched to the station in July. He will return to Earth aboard Discovery in Williams' place. The P5 truss segment will serve as a spacer between two huge sets of solar arrays on the left side of the station's main truss. One set of arrays, P4, was
Re: [meteorite-list] On the price of Huge size Nantan Iron-Nickelmeteorites, Need advices
I absolutely love this list. If for no other reason, than it's buyer beware notes on all suspicious potentials. Thanks to ALL. Jerry Flaherty - Original Message - From: drtanuki [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Email from Chinaren76 [EMAIL PROTECTED]; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2006 1:11 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] On the price of Huge size Nantan Iron-Nickelmeteorites, Need advices @Honest Sellers only, Scammers stop!@ --- Email from Chinaren76 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi list, Recently, i've collected several pieces of Nantan meteorites, totally weighted 40 Kg or so. Most of these rocks are huge, except for two small pieces. I've sold the two small pieces at rather low price on Ebay: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=330049246339 http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=330051868673 Now, the weight of Nantans at my hand are more than 1 kg and the largest is 6 kg around. However, i don't dare to sell them on Ebay again because the prices for huge size Nantan are uncertain in my mind. I searched them by Google, but the results showed the prices fixed by other dealers being various from 0.15 USD to 2 USD per gram. So, my question is: what's a reasonable price for huge size Nantans weighted more than 1 kg, especially more than 4 Kg? Any suguestion will be greatly appreciated. By the way, if there are Nantan collectors here, who would be willing to buy them on a wholesale price basis or part of them, please contact me off-list if you wish. Regards Bob jhu[g =9o Have a burning question? Go to www.Answers.yahoo.com and get answers from real people who know. __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list Any questions? Get answers on any topic at www.Answers.yahoo.com. Try it now. __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Look at this great auction!
Here is the original photo that was linked directly: http://207.56.99.163/Sikhotefall4a.gif I considered complaining to the IMCA about directly linking a photo from my website and wasting my bandwidth but I thought it would be more fitting to just upload a new photo under the same URL. There is a lesson to be learned hereif you are going to take a photo from someone's website at least have the decency to host it on your own servers. Jim Strope 421 Fourth Street Glen Dale, WV 26038 http://www.catchafallingstar.com mark ford markf at ssl.gb.com Tue Dec 12 10:52:03 EST 2006 Ha! that's actually quite funny! - Well done. (And an 'IMCA member' should certainly not be behaving like that, so they got all they deserve!) Best, Mark -Original Message- From: meteorite-list-bounces at meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-bounces at meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of Michael Farmer Sent: 12 December 2006 15:29 To: meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] Look at this great auction! http://cgi.ebay.com/_W0QQitemZ290059838558 This idiot looks like a great seller! It seems that stealing photos by linking your auction to someones elses website photos DOES NOT PAY! Well, I am on my way to Tokyo today. Mike Farmer __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] AD - Auctions Ending - Some New Items!
Dear List Members, I have several excellent auctions ending this afternoon, many priced ridiculously low at the opening bid price of just 99 cents! This week, I loaded some new items including flask-pendants containing Lunar and Martian meteorite dust and fragments. These would make a great gift idea since you do not have to be a collector to appreciate these excellent high-quality items. Many are started at just 99 cents with a few Holy Grail cross pendants loaded with 1/4 gram of planetary material with a low Buy-it-Now price. I will be running next weeks auctions a few hours later than usual as I will be fulfilling my civic responsibilities (jury duty) or the next several weeks, just in time for the holidays. There are plenty of specimens still at the 99 cent mark representing some true value! To see all of the too numerous to list outstanding auctions, click on this link. Several of these still have no bid and are at the opening price of just 99 cents so be sure to check them out: http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZraremeteorites Check out some of these highlights: Check out this serialized Campo coin made of real etched meteoritic material still at 1/10th of what these normally sell for: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=140061594484 A nice solid Mundrabilla, not worthless shale still priced at a few bucks: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=140061603947 An extremely rare CK3 currently priced too low to mention: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=140061614953 Check out the lithologies in this R4: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=140061626288 A Brachinite slice still priced at just 99 cents: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=140061626915 Awesome Granulitic Lunar slice started at just 99 cents: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=140061628581 Check out the incredible Flow-lines on this Sikhote Alin: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=140061631800 Various Planetary Pendants, be sure to check them out as the flask shapes are different from one another : http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=140064020984 http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=140064022099 http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=140064022840 http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=140064023719 http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=140064024177 http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=140064024509 http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=140064025261 http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=140064025560 http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=140064026399 http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=140064026922 http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=140064027683 http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=140064028194 http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=140064028994 http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=140064029483 http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=140064030527 Qty 5, NWA 4293 Lots left, these have been a hot seller with great demand: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=140064019461 http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=140064019316 http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=140064018942 http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=140064018646 http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=140064018482 And don't forget to check out all of the other great material at this link: http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZraremeteorites Thank you for looking and if you are bidding, good luck. Best Regards, Adam Hupe The Hupe Collection Team LunarRock IMCA 2185 [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] On the price of Huge size Nantan Iron-Nickel meteorites, Need advices
Hi, Dirk Ross, I've visited the website you provided with, many thanks. Now, i have a quesion for you, how to identify fake meteorites just by several pieces of pictures? You know, i'm not an experts on meteorites and know little about the identification techniques, especially, of the scientific investigation. Tell the fake by vision? I'm confused. The following are the weblinks to two pieces of Nantan. I uploaded them moments ago and need your views on the genuineness of the rocks. Hope you give me some sugestion: http://www.esnips.com/web/Nantanmeteorite435KG http://www.esnips.com/web/NantanMeteoritesWeighted41Kg Thanks again. By the way, sugestions given by anyone else here are also deeply appreciated! Merry Christmas to All Bob, from Beijing, China --- drtanuki [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear List, Sorry this message was not cc: to List. Dirk Ma Shao-jie, Nin hao! Dwei bu qi wo shang ni shr nan ren; bao chen. Ru guo ni shang kan jende jiade yuen shi kan jhr li: Translation: Sorry I thought you were a man. If you would like to see real fake meteorites see these links: http://imca.repetti.net/metinfo/scam_met_park.html http://imca.repetti.net/metinfo/metscams.html If you are truely willing to learn you will find many people on the list that will help. If you wish help with meteorites or other rocks please ask. Xie-xie, Dirk Ross...Tokyo __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list Want to start your own business? Learn how on Yahoo! Small Business. http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/r-index __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Look at this great auction!
I've used the same tactic in the past to stop photo thieves. Makes 'em look pretty stoopid... LOL Good work Jim! Gary On 12 Dec 2006 at 11:29, Jim Strope wrote: Here is the original photo that was linked directly: http://207.56.99.163/Sikhotefall4a.gif I considered complaining to the IMCA about directly linking a photo from my website and wasting my bandwidth but I thought it would be more fitting to just upload a new photo under the same URL. There is a lesson to be learned hereif you are going to take a photo from someone's website at least have the decency to host it on your own servers. Jim Strope 421 Fourth Street Glen Dale, WV 26038 http://www.catchafallingstar.com mark ford markf at ssl.gb.com Tue Dec 12 10:52:03 EST 2006 Ha! that's actually quite funny! - Well done. (And an 'IMCA member' should certainly not be behaving like that, so they got all they deserve!) Best, Mark -Original Message- From: meteorite-list-bounces at meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-bounces at meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of Michael Farmer Sent: 12 December 2006 15:29 To: meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] Look at this great auction! http://cgi.ebay.com/_W0QQitemZ290059838558 This idiot looks like a great seller! It seems that stealing photos by linking your auction to someones elses website photos DOES NOT PAY! Well, I am on my way to Tokyo today. Mike Farmer __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] [ebay] ending in less than 2 days
Hello all, I have a few more ebay auctions ending in less than 2 days. Close times start at 19:02 PST on Dec 13 - wednesday night. http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQfsooZ1QQfsopZ1QQsassZlaserprogramQQsbrsrtZd (as always scroll past the laser junk! ) In this batch I have the last bits of my new pairing to nwa 011/2400 (a few largeish bessy specs only at this point), my new angrite and R 3-6. I had a few people ask for more rare micros so I put up a decent piece of both nwa 2737 and 2727 - olivine gabro lunar and chassignite. A few more pieces of less than often seen Dhofars - 700, 485 and 007 (unusual diogenite, nice howardite and unusual cumulate eucrite / anom achondrite). Some more killer seymchan, a few other awsome OCs and another slice of my best LL3.10 (at least IMHO ;) ) If anyone has asked a question on these auctions or otherwise tried to reach me, my appologies in advance. To say I have been busy recently is like saying water is a little wet or that the surface of the sun is just a tad bit warm! TIA _ All-in-one security and maintenance for your PC. Get a free 90-day trial! http://clk.atdmt.com/MSN/go/msnnkwlo005002msn/direct/01/?href=http://clk.atdmt.com/MSN/go/msnnkwlo005001msn/direct/01/?href=http://www.windowsonecare.com/?sc_cid=msn_hotmail __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Look at this great auction!
or how about just asking permission to use the photo? Dave Carothers From: Jim Strope [EMAIL PROTECTED] There is a lesson to be learned hereif you are going to take a photo from someone's website at least have the decency to host it on your own servers. __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Look at this great auction!
I'm afraid Proud Tom is coming back... Pierre-Marie PELE ___ Découvrez une nouvelle façon d'obtenir des réponses à toutes vos questions ! Profitez des connaissances, des opinions et des expériences des internautes sur Yahoo! Questions/Réponses http://fr.answers.yahoo.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] RE : Re: Look at this great auction!
Hello, sorry for the mistake. When I looked at the ebay auction, the family picture reminded me of the Proud Tom pictures we saw 2 years ago on the List. I read later that this picture was added. Sorry for the miscomprehension. Pierre-Marie --- Dave Freeman mjwy [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit : WHO IS PROUD TOM?He never exposed himself (herself) at Tucson Show. Dave F. Pelé Pierre-Marie wrote: I'm afraid Proud Tom is coming back... Pierre-Marie PELE ___ Découvrez une nouvelle façon d'obtenir des réponses à toutes vos questions ! Profitez des connaissances, des opinions et des expériences des internautes sur Yahoo! Questions/Réponses http://fr.answers.yahoo.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list ___ Découvrez une nouvelle façon d'obtenir des réponses à toutes vos questions ! Profitez des connaissances, des opinions et des expériences des internautes sur Yahoo! Questions/Réponses http://fr.answers.yahoo.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Ad or Topic? All metal Nan-Tans
Hi Bob, I found your comment interesting because in reading the post to which you were referring, I saw it more as a discussion about the cost / value of large NanTans with only a back door invitation to anyone interested as opposed to an ad. I have wondered, myself about the market value of all-metal (as opposed to the earlier shale balls) Nan-Tans. I know at least 2 dealers who claim to sell LARGE Nan-Tans at substantial prices (between the prices brought by New Campos and Gibeon irons), but I have never seen a buyer spend $ anywhere close to that - except in the two ebay ads Bob provided. yet he seemed to be complaining about what I considered to be very substantial prices - ie $59/LB and $76/LB respectively - yet, he seemed to be complaining about this being a low price. I have 3 of these pieces in my auction (from 6.5LB to like 34 LB - see Lots 91, 92 93) with no minimum and will be very interested to see what they bring. I certainly can't imagine being disappointed if they brought between $59 and $76 per LB! So, other than comments about whether or not Bill's post was an ad or not, does anyone else have experience with the sale price of all metal Nan-Tans??? I think it is a fascinating subject - I just have never heard anything on it other than a couple of dealers who claim to get very high prices and several collectors who claim they aren't even worth $10/lb (this second price seems to be based on the old shale balls what wholesaled at Denver and Tucson for the several years when they were available - I haven't seen any for several years, now however) - those price differences are HUGE discrepancies, so, any others on the list have experiences with all metal Nan-Tan prices??? Best wishes, Michael on 12/11/06 9:15 PM, Bill at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bob, Please include AD as the first word in your subject line when posting business offers. It is a list rule. You will avoid a lot of problems by following this rule and maybe even make a few friends. Thanks, Bill -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Mon, 11 Dec 2006 20:34:54 -0800 (PST) To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] On the price of Huge size Nantan Iron-Nickel meteorites, Need advices Hi list, Recently, i've collected several pieces of Nantan meteorites, totally weighted 40 Kg or so. Most of these rocks are huge, except for two small pieces. I've sold the two small pieces at rather low price on Ebay: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=330049246339 http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=330051868673 Now, the weight of Nantans at my hand are more than 1 kg and the largest is 6 kg around. However, i don't dare to sell them on Ebay again because the prices for huge size Nantan are uncertain in my mind. I searched them by Google, but the results showed the prices fixed by other dealers being various from 0.15 USD to 2 USD per gram. So, my question is: what's a reasonable price for huge size Nantans weighted more than 1 kg, especially more than 4 Kg? Any suguestion will be greatly appreciated. By the way, if there are Nantan collectors here, who would be willing to buy them on a wholesale price basis or part of them, please contact me off-list if you wish. Regards Bob jhu[g =9o _ ___ Have a burning question? Go to www.Answers.yahoo.com and get answers from real people who know. __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Look at this great auction!
Jim, OUTSTANDING! That was a well executed move! I salute you! Original Message: - From: Jim Strope [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2006 11:29:08 -0500 To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Look at this great auction! Here is the original photo that was linked directly: http://207.56.99.163/Sikhotefall4a.gif I considered complaining to the IMCA about directly linking a photo from my website and wasting my bandwidth but I thought it would be more fitting to just upload a new photo under the same URL. There is a lesson to be learned hereif you are going to take a photo from someone's website at least have the decency to host it on your own servers. Jim Strope 421 Fourth Street Glen Dale, WV 26038 http://www.catchafallingstar.com mark ford markf at ssl.gb.com Tue Dec 12 10:52:03 EST 2006 Ha! that's actually quite funny! - Well done. (And an 'IMCA member' should certainly not be behaving like that, so they got all they deserve!) Best, Mark -Original Message- From: meteorite-list-bounces at meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-bounces at meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of Michael Farmer Sent: 12 December 2006 15:29 To: meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] Look at this great auction! http://cgi.ebay.com/_W0QQitemZ290059838558 This idiot looks like a great seller! It seems that stealing photos by linking your auction to someones elses website photos DOES NOT PAY! Well, I am on my way to Tokyo today. Mike Farmer __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web.com/ . __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Look at this great auction!
WHAT link? If he has a link to someone else's web site and is doing it covertly to promote his sale is that a violation of IMCA rules? Michael on 12/12/06 7:29 AM, Michael Farmer at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://cgi.ebay.com/_W0QQitemZ290059838558 This idiot looks like a great seller! It seems that stealing photos by linking your auction to someones elses website photos DOES NOT PAY! Well, I am on my way to Tokyo today. Mike Farmer __ __ Need a quick answer? Get one in minutes from people who know. Ask your question on www.Answers.yahoo.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list -- It is difficult to get a man to understand something if his salary depends on him not understanding it. - Upton Sinclair -- What gets us into trouble is not what we don't know. It is what we know for sure that just ain't so. - Josh Billings (but oft credited to Mark Twain) __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Look at this great auction!
What did you link it to? I just checked his ad and the photo is the same... Michael on 12/12/06 8:29 AM, Jim Strope at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here is the original photo that was linked directly: http://207.56.99.163/Sikhotefall4a.gif I considered complaining to the IMCA about directly linking a photo from my website and wasting my bandwidth but I thought it would be more fitting to just upload a new photo under the same URL. There is a lesson to be learned hereif you are going to take a photo from someone's website at least have the decency to host it on your own servers. Jim Strope 421 Fourth Street Glen Dale, WV 26038 http://www.catchafallingstar.com mark ford markf at ssl.gb.com Tue Dec 12 10:52:03 EST 2006 Ha! that's actually quite funny! - Well done. (And an 'IMCA member' should certainly not be behaving like that, so they got all they deserve!) Best, Mark -Original Message- From: meteorite-list-bounces at meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-bounces at meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of Michael Farmer Sent: 12 December 2006 15:29 To: meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] Look at this great auction! http://cgi.ebay.com/_W0QQitemZ290059838558 This idiot looks like a great seller! It seems that stealing photos by linking your auction to someones elses website photos DOES NOT PAY! Well, I am on my way to Tokyo today. Mike Farmer __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list -- It is difficult to get a man to understand something if his salary depends on him not understanding it. - Upton Sinclair -- What gets us into trouble is not what we don't know. It is what we know for sure that just ain't so. - Josh Billings (but oft credited to Mark Twain) __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Fantastic!
Hi, I have my copy of Flowlines and what a professional job you guys have done with it! It's a great read, informative, plenty of pics and some excellent contributors! I m proud to be secretary to our wonderful burgeoning organisation and I look forward to helping to compile our next edition! To you folks in the States (and elsewhere), if you are interested I can see if we can send a pdf version of this journal! Magic! Best Dave IMCA #0092 Sec.BIMS www.bimsociety.org __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Look at this great auction!
Michael and list members... He finally saw the light and uploaded the Sikhote-alin strewnfield photo to his server instead of just linking to my website. The joke photo for those of you, like Michael, who did not see it was: http://207.56.99.163/Sikhotefall4.gif Jim Strope 421 Fourth Street Glen Dale, WV 26038 http://www.catchafallingstar.com - Original Message - From: Michael L Blood [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Jim Strope [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Meteorite List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2006 4:11 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Look at this great auction! What did you link it to? I just checked his ad and the photo is the same... Michael on 12/12/06 8:29 AM, Jim Strope at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here is the original photo that was linked directly: http://207.56.99.163/Sikhotefall4a.gif I considered complaining to the IMCA about directly linking a photo from my website and wasting my bandwidth but I thought it would be more fitting to just upload a new photo under the same URL. There is a lesson to be learned hereif you are going to take a photo from someone's website at least have the decency to host it on your own servers. Jim Strope 421 Fourth Street Glen Dale, WV 26038 http://www.catchafallingstar.com mark ford markf at ssl.gb.com Tue Dec 12 10:52:03 EST 2006 Ha! that's actually quite funny! - Well done. (And an 'IMCA member' should certainly not be behaving like that, so they got all they deserve!) Best, Mark -Original Message- From: meteorite-list-bounces at meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-bounces at meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of Michael Farmer Sent: 12 December 2006 15:29 To: meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] Look at this great auction! http://cgi.ebay.com/_W0QQitemZ290059838558 This idiot looks like a great seller! It seems that stealing photos by linking your auction to someones elses website photos DOES NOT PAY! Well, I am on my way to Tokyo today. Mike Farmer __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list -- It is difficult to get a man to understand something if his salary depends on him not understanding it. - Upton Sinclair -- What gets us into trouble is not what we don't know. It is what we know for sure that just ain't so. - Josh Billings (but oft credited to Mark Twain) __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Fantastic!
Hi Dave, is this a group one could join and if so can you send the URL for it? It sounds interesting! Regards, Moni From: Dave Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED],metlist meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] Fantastic! Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2006 21:21:17 + (GMT Standard Time) Hi, I have my copy of Flowlines and what a professional job you guys have done with it! It's a great read, informative, plenty of pics and some excellent contributors! I m proud to be secretary to our wonderful burgeoning organisation and I look forward to helping to compile our next edition! To you folks in the States (and elsewhere), if you are interested I can see if we can send a pdf version of this journal! Magic! Best Dave IMCA #0092 Sec.BIMS www.bimsociety.org __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list _ Visit MSN Holiday Challenge for your chance to win up to $50,000 in Holiday cash from MSN today! http://www.msnholidaychallenge.com/index.aspx?ocid=taglinelocale=en-us __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Look at this great auction!
On Tue, 12 Dec 2006 16:36:18 -0500, you wrote: Michael and list members... He finally saw the light and uploaded the Sikhote-alin strewnfield photo to his server instead of just linking to my website. I actually messaged the guy saying nice family photo not because I wanted to be a party-pooper, but because what's the fun if he doesn't see the photo, too? Here's the reply that he sent: I linked the image from a website. It was a copyright free bw image and I didn't suspect the site owner didn't like image linking... The insertion was placed on ebay.co.uk and there was no problems from european ebay servers. Anyway I fixed the problem. Thanks for looking. __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Ad or Topic? All metal Nan-Tans
Note to anyone interested (apparently, this is not a topic of interest for those on the list - at least not at this time of day) the catalog has been re-arranged and the large, all-metal Nan-Tans are now #s 57,58 59. Best wishes, Michael on 12/12/06 12:49 PM, Michael L Blood at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Bob, I found your comment interesting because in reading the post to which you were referring, I saw it more as a discussion about the cost / value of large NanTans with only a back door invitation to anyone interested as opposed to an ad. I have wondered, myself about the market value of all-metal (as opposed to the earlier shale balls) Nan-Tans. I know at least 2 dealers who claim to sell LARGE Nan-Tans at substantial prices (between the prices brought by New Campos and Gibeon irons), but I have never seen a buyer spend $ anywhere close to that - except in the two ebay ads Bob provided. yet he seemed to be complaining about what I considered to be very substantial prices - ie $59/LB and $76/LB respectively - yet, he seemed to be complaining about this being a low price. I have 3 of these pieces in my auction (from 6.5LB to like 34 LB - see Lots 91, 92 93) with no minimum and will be very interested to see what they bring. I certainly can't imagine being disappointed if they brought between $59 and $76 per LB! So, other than comments about whether or not Bill's post was an ad or not, does anyone else have experience with the sale price of all metal Nan-Tans??? I think it is a fascinating subject - I just have never heard anything on it other than a couple of dealers who claim to get very high prices and several collectors who claim they aren't even worth $10/lb (this second price seems to be based on the old shale balls what wholesaled at Denver and Tucson for the several years when they were available - I haven't seen any for several years, now however) - those price differences are HUGE discrepancies, so, any others on the list have experiences with all metal Nan-Tan prices??? Best wishes, Michael on 12/11/06 9:15 PM, Bill at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bob, Please include AD as the first word in your subject line when posting business offers. It is a list rule. You will avoid a lot of problems by following this rule and maybe even make a few friends. Thanks, Bill -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Mon, 11 Dec 2006 20:34:54 -0800 (PST) To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] On the price of Huge size Nantan Iron-Nickel meteorites, Need advices Hi list, Recently, i've collected several pieces of Nantan meteorites, totally weighted 40 Kg or so. Most of these rocks are huge, except for two small pieces. I've sold the two small pieces at rather low price on Ebay: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=330049246339 http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=330051868673 Now, the weight of Nantans at my hand are more than 1 kg and the largest is 6 kg around. However, i don't dare to sell them on Ebay again because the prices for huge size Nantan are uncertain in my mind. I searched them by Google, but the results showed the prices fixed by other dealers being various from 0.15 USD to 2 USD per gram. So, my question is: what's a reasonable price for huge size Nantans weighted more than 1 kg, especially more than 4 Kg? Any suguestion will be greatly appreciated. By the way, if there are Nantan collectors here, who would be willing to buy them on a wholesale price basis or part of them, please contact me off-list if you wish. Regards Bob jhu[g =9o _ ___ Have a burning question? Go to www.Answers.yahoo.com and get answers from real people who know. __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list -- It is difficult to get a man to understand something if his salary depends on him not understanding it. - Upton Sinclair -- What gets us into trouble is not what we don't know. It is what we know for sure that just ain't so. - Josh Billings (but oft credited to Mark Twain) __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
[meteorite-list] Meteorite Hunters Cash Treasures TV Show
Dear Friends and List Members: Greetings from sunny Tucson. Thanks to Ruben Garcia and Steve Arnold for posting info about our upcoming Travel Channel show. Filming at Brenham and Glorieta was a great experience and I was lucky enough to be in the company of some serious meteorite hunters: Steve Arnold, Mike Miller, Ruben Garcia, Sonny Clary, and Keith Jenkerson. Fine fellows all! : ) The show premieres one week from tonight on the Travel Channel -- Thursday, December 19 -- and repeats twice more during the same week. I've put together a brand-new section on my website all about the program, with showtimes, lots of behind-the-scenes photos, as well as a narrative about the making of the episode. Those were some of the most exciting days all year for us, and we hope you enjoy seeing the show as much as we enjoyed making it. http://www.aerolite.org/cash-and-treasures.htm Steve and I will also be appearing on PBS on January 3, 2007 in the pilot for a new science series called Wired Science. In this program we go back to Kansas and excavate a beautiful Brenham siderite in the middle of dust storm, and spend time with Steve and Phil's World Record Meteorite in a science museum in Wichita. For the same episode Wired Science also filmed our good friend Dr. Art Ehlmann, Curator of the Monnig Meteorite Gallery in Forth Worth, TX, and Jim Penix of Mineral Hunters in Dallas, TX. I will post showtimes for that when we have it. Tonight's two episodes (#3 and 4) of Cash Treasures will feature diamond hunting in Arkansasm and sunken treasure with Mel Fisher's outfit in Key West. Should be well worth seeing! 10 PM Eastern. Finally, for now, be sure to check out the new issue of Wired magazine. It should hit the stands any day. It will carry a feature about Steve and the Brenham, Kansas strewnfield. Don't touch that dial! Geoff N. www.aerolite.org __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Look at this great auction!
Jim Strope wrote: The joke photo for those of you, like Michael, who did not see it was: http://207.56.99.163/Sikhotefall4.gif Jim, that was a superb prank! Ingenious of you to substitute a new photo at your own URL. What a lark, as we used to say in England : ) Cheers, Geoff N. www.aerolite.org __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Image Copyright (was: Look at this great auction!)
I linked the image from a website. It was a copyright free bw image and I didn't suspect the site owner didn't like image linking... Is there really no copyright on these images? One can't assume that, just because its a old black and white image, there is no copyright on it. Russia joined the Berne Convention in 1995, so I assume the image is copyrighted for the life time of the author plus 70 years. As far as I know, this is also valid for works that were created before 1995. So, even if the photograpger died immediately after the Sikhote Alin impact, the copyright would not expire before 2017... Cheers, Herbert --- Versendet durch aonWebmail (webmail.aon.at) __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Look at this great auction!
On Tue, 12 Dec 2006 15:52:51 -0700, you wrote: Jim, that was a superb prank! Ingenious of you to substitute a new photo at your own URL. That actually isn't that uncommon a practice. People often tend to be much more graphic, though, using for the replacement photo goatse or tubgirl. (Whatever you do-- do not search google images for those-- and when you do, don't say I didn't warn you). __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Image Copyright (was: Look at this greatauction!)
The copyright issue notwithstanding, has he asked Jim to use it? - Original Message - From: Herbert Raab [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2006 3:55 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Image Copyright (was: Look at this greatauction!) I linked the image from a website. It was a copyright free bw image and I didn't suspect the site owner didn't like image linking... Is there really no copyright on these images? One can't assume that, just because its a old black and white image, there is no copyright on it. Russia joined the Berne Convention in 1995, so I assume the image is copyrighted for the life time of the author plus 70 years. As far as I know, this is also valid for works that were created before 1995. So, even if the photograpger died immediately after the Sikhote Alin impact, the copyright would not expire before 2017... Cheers, Herbert --- Versendet durch aonWebmail (webmail.aon.at) __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Incorrect Day for Cash and Treasures Show
Dear Listees: One of my friends kindly pointed out that the air date for our meteorite hunting show is TUESDAY December, 19, not Thursday. Sorry about that! Don't want you tuning in on the wrong day and watching some scary show about bounty hunters or anything. : ) I'll post a reminder next week. The Mel Fisher episode is tonight, Dec. 12. I gather the series is going to be released on DVD, so hopefully we can get copies to our overseas friends who would like to see it. Regards, Geoff N. www.aerolite.org __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Image Copyright (was: Look at this greatauction!)
That is not the issue. The issue is that it was a direct link to my website. So everytime the auction was loaded and the photo shown, MY bandwidth was charged not his. Jim Strope 421 Fourth Street Glen Dale, WV 26038 http://www.catchafallingstar.com - Original Message - The copyright issue notwithstanding, has he asked Jim to use it? - Original Message - From: Herbert Raab hraab2006 at aon.at To: meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2006 3:55 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Image Copyright (was: Look at this greatauction!) I linked the image from a website. It was a copyright free bw image and I didn't suspect the site owner didn't like image linking... Is there really no copyright on these images? One can't assume that, just because its a old black and white image, there is no copyright on it. Russia joined the Berne Convention in 1995, so I assume the image is copyrighted for the life time of the author plus 70 years. As far as I know, this is also valid for works that were created before 1995. So, even if the photograpger died immediately after the Sikhote Alin impact, the copyright would not expire before 2017... Cheers, Herbert --- Versendet durch aonWebmail (webmail.aon.at) __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Hunters Cash Treasures TV Show
Hi All, Geoff and Steve are both far too modest to say, but without them there really wouldn't have been a meteorite episode. Aside from the fact that Steve Arnold is very popular right now, both Geoff and Steve were very good on camera. While some of us (mostly me) were nervously stuttering and tripping over our own words, Geoff was providing interesting dialog. I was very impressed at how flawlessly he handled his co-hosting duties. Ruben Ruben Garcia Phoenix, Arizona http://www.mr-meteorite.com Any questions? Get answers on any topic at www.Answers.yahoo.com. Try it now. __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Rocks From Space Picture of the Day - December 12, 2006
Saludos, to all forists. We want to remark that this picture was taken by Mr. Pavel Balderas, a bolivianamateur astronomer who kindly sent it to us. Hasta la vista, Greetings from Venezuela, Paolo Gallo From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.comSubject: [meteorite-list] Rocks From Space Picture of the Day - December 12,2006Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2006 08:33:22 ESThttp://www.spacerocksinc.com/December_12.html__Meteorite-list mailing listMeteorite-list@meteoritecentral.comhttp://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-listVisita MSN Latino Entretenimiento: ¡música, cine, chismes, TV y más...! Haz clic aquí __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Mars Takes a Fresh Pounding
http://www.space.com/scienceastronomy/061211_st_mars_craters.html Mars Takes a Fresh Pounding By Tariq Malik space.com 12 December 2006 The planet Mars is a glutton for punishment. Scientists have found no less than 20 new craters etched into the red planet's surface from space rocks that pummeled Mars within the last seven years [image http://www.space.com/php/multimedia/imagedisplay/img_display.php?pic=061206_mgs_newcrater_02.jpgcap=One+of+20+new+craters+that+formed+within+the+last+seven+years+on+Mars.+Credit%3A+NASA%2FJPL%2FMSSS.+Click+to+enlarge.+]. If you were to live on Mars for about 20 years, you would live close enough to one of these events to hear it, said researchers Michael Malin, who led the study. So there'd be a big boom and you'd know there was an impact crater. Malin, chief scientist at San Diego, California's Malin Space Science Systems, and his team used the Mars Orbiter Camera aboard NASA's now silent Mars Global Surveyor (MGS) to photograph about 30 percent of the planet between January and May this year. They compared the new images with photographs taken by MGS during earlier surveys to find new impact sites. In the same study, researchers found evidence that liquid water may have flowed out of martian gullies within the last five to seven years [images http://www.space.com/php/multimedia/imagedisplay/img_display.php?pic=061206_mars_gullies_02.jpgcap=The+floor+and+banks+of+a+gully+on+the+northwest+wall+of+a+crater+in+Terra+Sirenium+changed+between+December+2001+and+April+2005+due+to+a+distinct+light-toned+material+that+flowed+down+the+slope+and+formed+a+deposit+%28top%29.+The+same+change+occurred+in+a+crater+in+the+Centauri+Montes+region+%28bottom%29.+Credit%3A+Science.+Click+to+enlarge.]. It was just amazing that we could even do that, said Kenneth Edgett, a Malin Space Science Systems researcher who spotted the first of the new craters, told SPACE.com. And it was really a whirlwind from that first one all the through the 20th. Malin said that it was by chance Edgett spotted an image with a new crater and recalled a similar view taken years earlier by the MGS orbiter. Their subsequent survey found the new craters, which range in diameter from seven feet (two meters) to 486 feet (148 meters), and an average impact rate of about 12 per year. A few months after Malin and his team performed their survey, the MGS probe went silent and is thought to be lost after 10 years of spaceflight. The research is detailed in the most recent issue of the journal Science, and it validated crater impact models of Mars that until now were based solely on theory, Malin said. The new craters also suggest a potential hazard for future astronaut explorers on long-duration missions to the red planet, he added. There is a hazard, it's probably a low hazard, Malin said. But it's one we need to think about in terms of these objects hitting Mars at a fairly substantial rate. __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] The 2006 Geminid Meteor Shower
http://science.nasa.gov/headlines/y2006/12dec_geminids.htm The 2006 Geminid Meteor Shower NASA Science News December 12, 2006 Dec. 12 , 2006: The best meteor shower of the year peaks this week on Dec. 13th and 14th. It's the Geminid meteor shower, says Bill Cooke of NASA's Meteoroid Environment Office in Huntsville, Alabama. Start watching on Wednesday evening, Dec. 13th, around 9 p.m. local time, he advises. The display will start small but grow in intensity as the night wears on. By Thursday morning, Dec. 14th, people in dark, rural areas could see one or two meteors every minute. The source of the Geminids is a mysterious object named 3200 Phaethon. No one can decide what it is, says Cooke. The mystery, properly told, begins in the 19th century: Before the mid-1800s there were no Geminids, or at least not enough to attract attention. The first Geminids appeared suddenly in 1862, surprising onlookers who saw dozens of meteors shoot out of the constellation Gemini. (That's how the shower gets its name, the Geminids.) Astronomers immediately began looking for a comet. Meteor showers result from debris that boils off a comet when it passes close to the Sun. When Earth passes through the debris, we see a meteor shower. For more than a hundred years astronomers searched in vain for the parent comet. Finally, in 1983, NASA's Infra-Red Astronomy Satellite (IRAS) spotted something. It was several kilometers wide and moved in about the same orbit as the Geminid meteoroids. Scientists named it 3200 Phaethon. Just one problem: Meteor showers are supposed to come from comets, but 3200 Phaethon seems to be an asteroid. It is rocky (not icy, like a comet) and has no obvious tail. Officially, 3200 Phaethon is catalogued as a PHA - a potentially hazardous asteroid whose path misses Earth's orbit by only 2 million miles. If 3200 Phaethon is truly an asteroid, with no tail, how did it produce the Geminids? Maybe it bumped up against another asteroid, offers Cooke. A collision could have created a cloud of dust and rock that follows Phaethon around in its orbit. This jibes with studies of Geminid fireballs. Some astronomers have studied the brightest Geminid meteors and concluded that the underlying debris must be rocky. Density estimates range from 1 to 3 g/cm3. That's much denser than flakes of comet dust (0.3 g/cm3), but close to the density of rock (3 g/cm3). So, are the Geminids an asteroid shower? Cooke isn't convinced. 3200 Phaethon might be a comet after all--an extinct comet, he says. The object's orbit carries it even closer to the Sun than Mercury. Extreme solar heat could've boiled away all of Phaethon's ice long ago, leaving behind this rocky skeleton that merely looks like an asteroid. In short, no one knows. It's a mystery to savor under the stars - the shooting stars - this Thursday morning. __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Look at this great auction!
Geoff, Don't you think it was particularly courageous of him to include a photo of his own sister and brother in law? Michael on 12/12/06 2:52 PM, Notkin at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jim Strope wrote: The joke photo for those of you, like Michael, who did not see it was: http://207.56.99.163/Sikhotefall4.gif Jim, that was a superb prank! Ingenious of you to substitute a new photo at your own URL. What a lark, as we used to say in England : ) Cheers, Geoff N. www.aerolite.org __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list -- It is difficult to get a man to understand something if his salary depends on him not understanding it. - Upton Sinclair -- What gets us into trouble is not what we don't know. It is what we know for sure that just ain't so. - Josh Billings (but oft credited to Mark Twain) __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Look at this great auction!
[meteorite-list] Look at this great auction! Michael Farmer Tue, 12 Dec 2006 07:32:13 -0800 http://cgi.ebay.com/_W0QQitemZ290059838558 This idiot looks like a great seller! It seems that stealing photos by linking your auction to someones elses website photos DOES NOT PAY! Well, I am on my way to Tokyo today. Mike Farmer --- Probably just an oversight by this person, linking to another dealer's site. Simple, he should have downloaded the photo to his own site and uploaded it directly to eBay. I would not count it as a reason for suspension of a IMCA member. Just a simple notice that it is impolite to link to another dealer's website. Also, not noted is that this photo is not copyrighted. I think I have seen it in Krinov's books and it is public domain. More importantly, if the photo is copyrighted it is not polite to use it without the owner's permission. Steve Schoner IMCA #4470 __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] On the price of Huge size Nantan Iron-Nickel meteorites, Need advices
That is some shady looking libyan melted pop bottle there Bob! DF drtanuki wrote: Dear List, If you take the time to look at Mr Bob`s email and eBay you will notice that he ranks up there with the 5 Ducks, and the other seller`s from China,Vietnam, Singapore, Thailand. Many of these so-called Nantans are iron concretions and have nothing to do with ever being a meteorite. His other items, Libyan Glass, have been discussed on the list prior. Before you start sending off your hard earned money to these Bargain Sellers think about it. I am sure Bob has a real name that he avoids giving for a very good reason. Best Regards, Dirk Ross...Tokyo Zhong Guo ren bu shi yao lai women de difang; fum pi guei!!! --- Email from Chinaren76 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi list, Recently, i've collected several pieces of Nantan meteorites, totally weighted 40 Kg or so. Most of these rocks are huge, except for two small pieces. I've sold the two small pieces at rather low price on Ebay: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=330049246339 http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=330051868673 Now, the weight of Nantans at my hand are more than 1 kg and the largest is 6 kg around. However, i don't dare to sell them on Ebay again because the prices for huge size Nantan are uncertain in my mind. I searched them by Google, but the results showed the prices fixed by other dealers being various from 0.15 USD to 2 USD per gram. So, my question is: what's a reasonable price for huge size Nantans weighted more than 1 kg, especially more than 4 Kg? Any suguestion will be greatly appreciated. By the way, if there are Nantan collectors here, who would be willing to buy them on a wholesale price basis or part of them, please contact me off-list if you wish. Regards Bob jhu[g =9o Have a burning question? Go to www.Answers.yahoo.com and get answers from real people who know. __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list Need a quick answer? Get one in minutes from people who know. Ask your question on www.Answers.yahoo.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Chinese meteorite park
In a message dated 12/12/2006 11:27:06 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: http://imca.repetti.net/metinfo/scam_met_park.html I know a place where I can get tons of that exact kind of stone without even digging. We call the place Central Park, not meteorite park. __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Ad or Topic? All metal Nan-Tans
I bought a 1 pound Nantan that was 1/2 metal and 1/2 shale for $16 at the Denver show three years ago. Is that a market cross section? Dave F. Michael L Blood wrote: Hi Bob, I found your comment interesting because in reading the post to which you were referring, I saw it more as a discussion about the cost / value of large NanTans with only a back door invitation to anyone interested as opposed to an ad. I have wondered, myself about the market value of all-metal (as opposed to the earlier shale balls) Nan-Tans. I know at least 2 dealers who claim to sell LARGE Nan-Tans at substantial prices (between the prices brought by New Campos and Gibeon irons), but I have never seen a buyer spend $ anywhere close to that - except in the two ebay ads Bob provided. yet he seemed to be complaining about what I considered to be very substantial prices - ie $59/LB and $76/LB respectively - yet, he seemed to be complaining about this being a low price. I have 3 of these pieces in my auction (from 6.5LB to like 34 LB - see Lots 91, 92 93) with no minimum and will be very interested to see what they bring. I certainly can't imagine being disappointed if they brought between $59 and $76 per LB! So, other than comments about whether or not Bill's post was an ad or not, does anyone else have experience with the sale price of all metal Nan-Tans??? I think it is a fascinating subject - I just have never heard anything on it other than a couple of dealers who claim to get very high prices and several collectors who claim they aren't even worth $10/lb (this second price seems to be based on the old shale balls what wholesaled at Denver and Tucson for the several years when they were available - I haven't seen any for several years, now however) - those price differences are HUGE discrepancies, so, any others on the list have experiences with all metal Nan-Tan prices??? Best wishes, Michael on 12/11/06 9:15 PM, Bill at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bob, Please include AD as the first word in your subject line when posting business offers. It is a list rule. You will avoid a lot of problems by following this rule and maybe even make a few friends. Thanks, Bill -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Mon, 11 Dec 2006 20:34:54 -0800 (PST) To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] On the price of Huge size Nantan Iron-Nickel meteorites, Need advices Hi list, Recently, i've collected several pieces of Nantan meteorites, totally weighted 40 Kg or so. Most of these rocks are huge, except for two small pieces. I've sold the two small pieces at rather low price on Ebay: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=330049246339 http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=330051868673 Now, the weight of Nantans at my hand are more than 1 kg and the largest is 6 kg around. However, i don't dare to sell them on Ebay again because the prices for huge size Nantan are uncertain in my mind. I searched them by Google, but the results showed the prices fixed by other dealers being various from 0.15 USD to 2 USD per gram. So, my question is: what's a reasonable price for huge size Nantans weighted more than 1 kg, especially more than 4 Kg? Any suguestion will be greatly appreciated. By the way, if there are Nantan collectors here, who would be willing to buy them on a wholesale price basis or part of them, please contact me off-list if you wish. Regards Bob jhu[g =9o _ ___ Have a burning question? Go to www.Answers.yahoo.com and get answers from real people who know. __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Look at this great auction!
Dear Darren; Isn't the freedom of the internet a wonderful thing. Everyone doing everything! Dave F. Darren Garrison wrote: On Tue, 12 Dec 2006 15:52:51 -0700, you wrote: Jim, that was a superb prank! Ingenious of you to substitute a new photo at your own URL. That actually isn't that uncommon a practice. People often tend to be much more graphic, though, using for the replacement photo goatse or tubgirl. (Whatever you do-- do not search google images for those-- and when you do, don't say I didn't warn you). __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Look at this great auction!
WHO IS PROUD TOM?He never exposed himself (herself) at Tucson Show. Dave F. Pelé Pierre-Marie wrote: I'm afraid Proud Tom is coming back... Pierre-Marie PELE ___ Découvrez une nouvelle façon d'obtenir des réponses à toutes vos questions ! Profitez des connaissances, des opinions et des expériences des internautes sur Yahoo! Questions/Réponses http://fr.answers.yahoo.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Look at this great auction!
In a message dated 12/12/2006 2:09:55 P.M. Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: WHAT link? If he has a link to someone else's web site and is doing it covertly to promote his sale is that a violation of IMCA rules? Michael on 12/12/06 7:29 AM, Michael Farmer at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://cgi.ebay.com/_W0QQitemZ290059838558 This idiot looks like a great seller! It seems that stealing photos by linking your auction to someones elses website photos DOES NOT PAY! Well, I am on my way to Tokyo today. Mike Farmer Hello Michael, Mike, and List Members, We, the IMCA Board and Members, can try our best to police Authenticity, and ethical business practices, but it is very difficult to police poor judgment and lack of common sense. You might have noticed that his price for that Sikhote-Alin is also totally out of line. My suggestion: Don't bid on it! By now he might have noticed that Jim has switched the picture (Very good move Jim!), so that and the lack of bids might get him to realize that he did something wrong. And maybe the Italian members of the IMCA will decide to help him privately. Anne M. Black _www.IMPACTIKA.com_ (http://www.impactika.com/) [EMAIL PROTECTED] President, I.M.C.A. Inc. _www.IMCA.cc_ (http://www.imca.cc/) __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Look at this great auction!
Mike Spammer its only good to give a idiot to all not have the same idea he have. Matteo --- Michael L Blood [EMAIL PROTECTED] ha scritto: WHAT link? If he has a link to someone else's web site and is doing it covertly to promote his sale is that a violation of IMCA rules? Michael on 12/12/06 7:29 AM, Michael Farmer at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://cgi.ebay.com/_W0QQitemZ290059838558 This idiot looks like a great seller! It seems that stealing photos by linking your auction to someones elses website photos DOES NOT PAY! Well, I am on my way to Tokyo today. Mike Farmer __ __ Need a quick answer? Get one in minutes from people who know. Ask your question on www.Answers.yahoo.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list -- It is difficult to get a man to understand something if his salary depends on him not understanding it. - Upton Sinclair -- What gets us into trouble is not what we don't know. It is what we know for sure that just ain't so. - Josh Billings (but oft credited to Mark Twain) __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list M come Meteorite - Matteo Chinellato Via Triestina 126/A - 30173 - TESSERA, VENEZIA, ITALY Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sale Site: http://www.mcomemeteorite.it Collection Site: http://www.mcomemeteorite.info MSN Messanger: spacerocks at hotmail.com EBAY.COM:http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/mcomemeteorite/ __ Do You Yahoo!? Poco spazio e tanto spam? Yahoo! Mail ti protegge dallo spam e ti da tanto spazio gratuito per i tuoi file e i messaggi http://mail.yahoo.it __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Look at this great auction!
On Wed, 13 Dec 2006 01:54:34 GMT, you wrote: suspension of a IMCA member. Just a simple notice that it is impolite to link to another dealer's website. I would venture a guess that most people really don't stop to think about there being any problem with linking to a photo on a web site, or think about bandwidth costs. After all, most people don't run web sites or pay for bandwidth, so they don't even realize that peope have to pay for it. You don't have to pay to use MySpace or any of the other past and present free web sites, and that is about the only experence people have with making a web page. For instance, 20 MB of web space comes free with my broadband account. All the times I've posted documents and photos and videos for access by the mailing list, I put it in that space. I don't know how much it is accessed, I don't know who accesses it, and I don't even know how/what softwere to use to find out from where each file is accessed. If Charter has any type of bandwidth restrictions on the free space, I've never read it, or heard complaints about me overusing it, so I don't even think about it. __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Bandwidth - Hotlink Protection on cPanel Pro
Hi Darren and List, For those of us with high traffic sites bandwidth can definitely be an issue. We pay monthly fees based upon options which include how much monthly traffic we are allowed. If we go over that amount we have to pay for that excess traffic. Today's Hosting Plans are much more affordable that they used to be. There were times in the past like when ALH 84001 hit the news that we paid some hefty fees for the huge jump in traffic. 20 MB should work fine for you and if not your ISP will send you a nice little email notification. 20MB won't last long for a higher traffic sites. Our meteorite.com site averages 1000 unique visits and 200 MB of traffic daily http://www.meteorite.com/me_stats.jpg On meteorite-times we average over 600 visits and close to 500 MB of traffic daily with a peak day of over 1 GB of traffic. http://www.meteorite.com/mt_stats.jpg For those of you who's Hosting Company supplies cPanel Pro you may have Hotlink Protection Below is some documentation HotLink protection prevents other websites from directly linking to files (as specified below) on your website. Other sites will still be able to link to any file type that you don't specify below (ie. html files). An example of hotlinking would be using a img tag to display an image from your site from somewhere else on the net. The end result is that the other site is stealing your bandwidth. You should ensure that all sites that you wish to allow direct links from are in the list below. This system attempts add all sites it knows you own to the list, however you may need to add others. Paul ** Paul Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jim Tobin [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Meteorite Exchange, Inc. http://www.meteorite.com Meteorite-Times Magazine http://www.meteorite-times.com PO Box 7000-455, Redondo Beach, CA 90277 USA *** At 06:57 PM 12/12/2006, Darren Garrison wrote: On Wed, 13 Dec 2006 01:54:34 GMT, you wrote: suspension of a IMCA member. Just a simple notice that it is impolite to link to another dealer's website. I would venture a guess that most people really don't stop to think about there being any problem with linking to a photo on a web site, or think about bandwidth costs. After all, most people don't run web sites or pay for bandwidth, so they don't even realize that peope have to pay for it. You don't have to pay to use MySpace or any of the other past and present free web sites, and that is about the only experence people have with making a web page. For instance, 20 MB of web space comes free with my broadband account. All the times I've posted documents and photos and videos for access by the mailing list, I put it in that space. I don't know how much it is accessed, I don't know who accesses it, and I don't even know how/what softwere to use to find out from where each file is accessed. If Charter has any type of bandwidth restrictions on the free space, I've never read it, or heard complaints about me overusing it, so I don't even think about it. __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
