Re: [meteorite-list] Where is all the Murchison???
Hi Richard all, I've been watching Murchison pretty carefully over the last 12-24mths. There has been a somewhat steep incline in price that I believe is probably mainly due to the amount of media attention it has received during that time. Personally I think it's over-priced and I would not expect the price to stay there. eBay auctions often go unsold (probably because the prices are too high) and most pieces do seem to be under 2g. But all that said, if anyone wants any Murchison stones for the current prices of $150-$200/g just let me know. There are several stones available over here from 10-80g. Cheers, Jeff Kuyken Meteorites Australia www.meteorites.com.au Vice President - I.M.C.A. Inc. www.imca.cc - Original Message - From: Richard Kowalski damoc...@yahoo.com To: meteorite list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2011 6:36 AM Subject: [meteorite-list] Where is all the Murchison??? Recently some of us had a discussion on Facebook about how rare Murchison seems to be. Rarely do you see as much as a gram available. The Heritage Auction has a huge Murchison, 535.9g individual (http://fineart.ha.com/common/view_item.php?Sale_No=6061Lot_No=49046) Maybe I've missed them, or not privy to their availability, but where is all the Murchison between a gram and and this largest individual? Anyone? -- Richard Kowalski Full Moon Photography IMCA #1081 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Where is all the Murchison???
Richard and Listees We have a very fine 18g sample here in the collections of the National Museum Scotland. Cheers from a snowy Scotland Peter Davidson Curator of Minerals Department of Natural Sciences National Museums Collection Centre 242 West Granton Road Edinburgh EH5 1JA Scotland Tel: 00 44 131 247 4283 E-mail: p.david...@nms.ac.uk -Original Message- From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of Richard Kowalski Sent: 08 March 2011 19:37 To: meteorite list Subject: [meteorite-list] Where is all the Murchison??? Recently some of us had a discussion on Facebook about how rare Murchison seems to be. Rarely do you see as much as a gram available. The Heritage Auction has a huge Murchison, 535.9g individual (http://fineart.ha.com/common/view_item.php?Sale_No=6061Lot_No=49046) Maybe I've missed them, or not privy to their availability, but where is all the Murchison between a gram and and this largest individual? Anyone? -- Richard Kowalski Full Moon Photography IMCA #1081 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list Shining Lights, the story of Scotlands lighthouses is now on at the National Museum of Scotland. www.nms.ac.uk/shininglights National Museums Scotland, Scottish Charity, No. SC 011130 This communication is intended for the addressee(s) only. If you are not the addressee please inform the sender and delete the email from your system. The statements and opinions expressed in this message are those of the author and do not necessarily reflect those of National Museums Scotland. This message is subject to the Data Protection Act 1998 and Freedom of Information (Scotland) Act 2002. No liability is accepted for any harm that may be caused to your systems or data by this message. __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] where is all the murchison??
Well here is a thread I will comment on. In 2000 I got a 33 gram fragment of murchison from bob haag w/his card and signed autograph.So I know where my piece is and is not forsale.Great thread! Keep it boys! Steve R.Arnold, Chicago! __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Murchinson for ca. 100 Dollar/gramm wanted !
Murchinson wanted! Dear List, I am looking for a Murchinson Individual for ca.100 US/gr tu buy. Please send your offer and a picture to : maxn...@hotmail.de Thank you Max __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Rocks from Space Picture of Day - March 9, 2011
Agreed! Thanks very much Michael. -Walter - Original Message - From: MEM mstrema...@yahoo.com To: Michael Johnson mich...@rocksfromspace.org; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2011 2:16 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Rocks from Space Picture of Day - March 9, 2011 Your efforts to bring us these daily treasures must intrude on your regular life but let me also say the effort itself is a true treasure and wonderment for us all. My profound thanks for dedicating yourself to this labor of love. I admire the quality of and the dedication to your work. Elton __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Welcome home
What's this about? -Walter - Original Message - From: Matson, Robert D. robert.d.mat...@saic.com To: meteorite list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2011 9:44 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Welcome home Hi Richard, Wow! That's great news, and more than a month earlier than originally expected (if I'm remember the April date correctly). Hopefully they are both in good health. Welcome home guys! Rob -Original Message- From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of Richard Kowalski Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2011 6:32 PM To: meteorite list Subject: [meteorite-list] Welcome home Glad to see Mike Robert are back home! -- Richard Kowalski Full Moon Photography IMCA #1081 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Murchinson for ca. 100 Dollar/gramm wanted !
I want all I can get at that price! Michael On 3/9/11 3:54 AM, Max Null maxn...@hotmail.de wrote: Murchinson wanted! Dear List, I am looking for a Murchinson Individual for ca.100 US/gr tu buy. Please send your offer and a picture to : maxn...@hotmail.de Thank you Max __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list -- Teachin' a pig to dance is a waste of time and it irritates the pig Mark Twain -- 1. Whenever you're wrong, admit it, 2. Whenever you're right, shut up. Shaquille O'Neal __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Murchinson for ca. 100 Dollar/gramm wanted !
Should I consider that an opening offer, Michael? http://www.catchafallingstar.com/murchison723.htm Jim Strope http://www.catchafallingstar.com/ On 3/9/11 7:37 AM, Michael Blood mlblood at cox.net wrote: I want all I can get at that price! Michael __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Welcome home
I think it has something to do with a couple of blokes shipwrecked on a deserted island. On 3/9/11, Walter Branch waltbra...@bellsouth.net wrote: What's this about? -Walter - Original Message - From: Matson, Robert D. robert.d.mat...@saic.com To: meteorite list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2011 9:44 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Welcome home Hi Richard, Wow! That's great news, and more than a month earlier than originally expected (if I'm remember the April date correctly). Hopefully they are both in good health. Welcome home guys! Rob -Original Message- From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of Richard Kowalski Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2011 6:32 PM To: meteorite list Subject: [meteorite-list] Welcome home Glad to see Mike Robert are back home! -- Richard Kowalski Full Moon Photography IMCA #1081 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list -- -- Mike Gilmer - Galactic Stone Ironworks Meteorites Website - http://www.galactic-stone.com Facebook - http://www.facebook.com/galacticstone News Feed - http://www.galactic-stone.com/rss/126516 Twitter - http://twitter.com/galacticstone EOM - http://www.encyclopedia-of-meteorites.com/collection.aspx?id=1564 --- __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Murchinson for ca. 100 Dollar/gramm wanted !
Sales of all $100/g Murchison are hereby suspended until further notice. -- Mike Gilmer - Galactic Stone Ironworks Meteorites Website - http://www.galactic-stone.com Facebook - http://www.facebook.com/galacticstone News Feed - http://www.galactic-stone.com/rss/126516 Twitter - http://twitter.com/galacticstone EOM - http://www.encyclopedia-of-meteorites.com/collection.aspx?id=1564 --- On 3/9/11, Max Null maxn...@hotmail.de wrote: Murchinson wanted! Dear List, I am looking for a Murchinson Individual for ca.100 US/gr tu buy. Please send your offer and a picture to : maxn...@hotmail.de Thank you Max __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list -- __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Murchinson for ca. 100 Dollar/gramm wanted !
Hi Jim and List, I remember that Murchinson stone, Jim. It is very awesome in person! I like the fact it still has the grass embedded on it. Does that make it a hammer stone and worth even more? ;-) Best Regards, Greg Greg Hupe The Hupe Collection gmh...@centurylink.net www.LunarRock.com IMCA 3163 -Original Message- From: Jim Strope Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2011 8:25 AM To: Meteorite Central Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Murchinson for ca. 100 Dollar/gramm wanted ! Should I consider that an opening offer, Michael? http://www.catchafallingstar.com/murchison723.htm Jim Strope http://www.catchafallingstar.com/ On 3/9/11 7:37 AM, Michael Blood mlblood at cox.net wrote: I want all I can get at that price! Michael __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Welcome home
Mike Farmer and Robert Ward are back home!! They just landed on US soil yesterday afternoon after a two month stay on a not-so-luxury vacation abroad! :/ Best Regards, Greg Greg Hupe The Hupe Collection gmh...@centurylink.net www.LunarRock.com IMCA 3163 -Original Message- From: Michael Gilmer Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2011 8:52 AM To: Walter Branch Cc: meteorite list ; Matson,Robert D. Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Welcome home I think it has something to do with a couple of blokes shipwrecked on a deserted island. On 3/9/11, Walter Branch waltbra...@bellsouth.net wrote: What's this about? -Walter - Original Message - From: Matson, Robert D. robert.d.mat...@saic.com To: meteorite list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2011 9:44 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Welcome home Hi Richard, Wow! That's great news, and more than a month earlier than originally expected (if I'm remember the April date correctly). Hopefully they are both in good health. Welcome home guys! Rob -Original Message- From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of Richard Kowalski Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2011 6:32 PM To: meteorite list Subject: [meteorite-list] Welcome home Glad to see Mike Robert are back home! -- Richard Kowalski Full Moon Photography IMCA #1081 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list -- -- Mike Gilmer - Galactic Stone Ironworks Meteorites Website - http://www.galactic-stone.com Facebook - http://www.facebook.com/galacticstone News Feed - http://www.galactic-stone.com/rss/126516 Twitter - http://twitter.com/galacticstone EOM - http://www.encyclopedia-of-meteorites.com/collection.aspx?id=1564 --- __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Murchinson for ca. 100 Dollar/gramm wanted !
Absolutely The grass is the proof. :-) $100- a gram is a good starting point for a specimen of this quality and scientific importance!!! Jim Strope http://www.catchafallingstar.com/ - Original Message - From: Greg Hupe gmh...@centurylink.net To: Jim Strope nwa...@comcast.net, Meteorite Central meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Wednesday, March 9, 2011 8:55:36 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Murchinson for ca. 100 Dollar/gramm wanted ! Hi Jim and List, I remember that Murchinson stone, Jim. It is very awesome in person! I like the fact it still has the grass embedded on it. Does that make it a hammer stone and worth even more? ;-) Best Regards, Greg Greg Hupe The Hupe Collection gmh...@centurylink.net www.LunarRock.com IMCA 3163 -Original Message- From: Jim Strope Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2011 8:25 AM To: Meteorite Central Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Murchinson for ca. 100 Dollar/gramm wanted ! Should I consider that an opening offer, Michael? http://www.catchafallingstar.com/murchison723.htm Jim Strope http://www.catchafallingstar.com/ On 3/9/11 7:37 AM, Michael Blood mlblood at cox.net wrote: I want all I can get at that price! Michael __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Rocks from Space Picture of the Day - A Special Tribute
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[meteorite-list] Murchinson for ca. 100 Dollar/gramm wanted !
Hello All, I got my 6.9 gram Murchison partial slice back in the summer of 1988 from David New for (a roll of drums, please, ...) ... for $120, in other words: $17.39 per gram! Oh yes, them good ole days ;-) Bernd P.S.: A thin section followed on 10 July, 2000 (from Bob Haag) __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Welcome home
So pleased they made it back so soon. Chris Spratt (Via my iPhone) __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] AD: AUCTIONS ENDING TODAY...BIG SALE TOO!
Hello, ROCK A WAY ALL SALE ITEMS HERE: http://stores.ebay.com/voyage-botanica-natural-history ALL AUCTIONS HERE: http://shop.ebay.com:80/merchant/meteorite-collector_W0QQLHQ5fAuctionZ1QQ Thanks and Best Wishes Michael Cottingham __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Welcome home
From Mike Farmer's Facebook page, he wants Art to put him back on the list so he can tell full story of his trip. Chris Spratt (Via my iPhone) __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Murchinson for ca. 100 Dollar/gramm wanted !
I believe Michael was offering to rent it...not buy it. :0) Count Deiro IMCA 3536 -Original Message- From: Jim Strope nwa...@comcast.net Sent: Mar 9, 2011 5:25 AM To: Meteorite Central meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Murchinson for ca. 100 Dollar/gramm wanted ! Should I consider that an opening offer, Michael? http://www.catchafallingstar.com/murchison723.htm Jim Strope http://www.catchafallingstar.com/ On 3/9/11 7:37 AM, Michael Blood mlblood at cox.net wrote: I want all I can get at that price! Michael __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Welcome home
Bird watching is fraught with danger. I went to the national championships last year...many people were injured. Welcome back, guys. Count Deiro IMCA 3536 -Original Message- From: Greg Hupe gmh...@centurylink.net Sent: Mar 9, 2011 5:57 AM To: Michael Gilmer meteoritem...@gmail.com, Walter Branch waltbra...@bellsouth.net Cc: meteorite list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com, Matson, Robert D. robert.d.mat...@saic.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Welcome home Mike Farmer and Robert Ward are back home!! They just landed on US soil yesterday afternoon after a two month stay on a not-so-luxury vacation abroad! :/ Best Regards, Greg Greg Hupe The Hupe Collection gmh...@centurylink.net www.LunarRock.com IMCA 3163 -Original Message- From: Michael Gilmer Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2011 8:52 AM To: Walter Branch Cc: meteorite list ; Matson,Robert D. Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Welcome home I think it has something to do with a couple of blokes shipwrecked on a deserted island. On 3/9/11, Walter Branch waltbra...@bellsouth.net wrote: What's this about? -Walter - Original Message - From: Matson, Robert D. robert.d.mat...@saic.com To: meteorite list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2011 9:44 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Welcome home Hi Richard, Wow! That's great news, and more than a month earlier than originally expected (if I'm remember the April date correctly). Hopefully they are both in good health. Welcome home guys! Rob -Original Message- From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of Richard Kowalski Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2011 6:32 PM To: meteorite list Subject: [meteorite-list] Welcome home Glad to see Mike Robert are back home! -- Richard Kowalski Full Moon Photography IMCA #1081 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list -- -- Mike Gilmer - Galactic Stone Ironworks Meteorites Website - http://www.galactic-stone.com Facebook - http://www.facebook.com/galacticstone News Feed - http://www.galactic-stone.com/rss/126516 Twitter - http://twitter.com/galacticstone EOM - http://www.encyclopedia-of-meteorites.com/collection.aspx?id=1564 --- __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Welcome home
Is there a motion on the floor? I second it! I'm quite confident he's behaving himself these days. ;^) Welcome home Robert and Mike! This outcome was in no way guaranteed. Linton - Original Message - From: Chris Spratt cspr...@islandnet.com To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2011 8:39 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Welcome home From Mike Farmer's Facebook page, he wants Art to put him back on the list so he can tell full story of his trip. Chris Spratt (Via my iPhone) __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Murchinson for ca. 100 Dollar/gramm wanted !
This 30 gram specimen has a starting bid of $2250, which makes it only $75 per gram before buyer's premium! Has Chicago Field Museum provenance. http://fineart.ha.com/common/view_item.php?Sale_No=6061Lot_No=49047type=yinan-meteorite -YvW On Wed, Mar 9, 2011 at 8:25 AM, Jim Strope nwa...@comcast.net wrote: Absolutely The grass is the proof. :-) $100- a gram is a good starting point for a specimen of this quality and scientific importance!!! Jim Strope http://www.catchafallingstar.com/ - Original Message - From: Greg Hupe gmh...@centurylink.net To: Jim Strope nwa...@comcast.net, Meteorite Central meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Wednesday, March 9, 2011 8:55:36 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Murchinson for ca. 100 Dollar/gramm wanted ! Hi Jim and List, I remember that Murchinson stone, Jim. It is very awesome in person! I like the fact it still has the grass embedded on it. Does that make it a hammer stone and worth even more? ;-) Best Regards, Greg Greg Hupe The Hupe Collection gmh...@centurylink.net www.LunarRock.com IMCA 3163 -Original Message- From: Jim Strope Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2011 8:25 AM To: Meteorite Central Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Murchinson for ca. 100 Dollar/gramm wanted ! Should I consider that an opening offer, Michael? http://www.catchafallingstar.com/murchison723.htm Jim Strope http://www.catchafallingstar.com/ On 3/9/11 7:37 AM, Michael Blood mlblood at cox.net wrote: I want all I can get at that price! Michael __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Color View from Orbit Shows Mars Rover Beside Crater
http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/news/news.cfm?release=2011-072 Color View from Orbit Shows Mars Rover Beside Crater Jet Propulsion Laboraotry March 09, 2011 NASA's Mars Exploration Rover Opportunity has nearly completed its three-month examination of a crater informally named Santa Maria, but before the rover resumes its overland trek, an orbiting camera has provided a color image of Opportunity beside Santa Maria. The High Resolution Imaging Science Experiment (HiRISE) camera on NASA's Mars Reconnaissance Orbiter acquired the image on March 1, while Opportunity was extending its robotic arm to take close-up photos of a rock called Ruiz Garcia. From orbit, the tracks Opportunity made as it approached the crater from the west are clearly visible. Santa Maria crater is about 90 meters (295 feet) in diameter. The HiRISE image is at http://photojournal.jpl.nasa.gov/catalog/PIA13803 . March 1 corresponded to the 2,524th Martian day, or sol, of Opportunity's work on Mars. A raw image from Opportunity's front hazard-avoidance camera from the same day, showing the arm extended to Ruiz Garcia, is at http://marsrovers.jpl.nasa.gov/gallery/all/1/f/2524/1F352255948EFFB1F5P1110L0M1.HTML . To complete the scale of imaging, a raw image taken by Opportunity's microscopic imager that day, showing textural detail of the rock, is at http://marsrovers.jpl.nasa.gov/gallery/all/1/m/2524/1M352254519EFFB1F5P2935M2M1.HTML . Opportunity completed its three-month prime mission on Mars in April 2004 and has been working in bonus extended missions since then. The Mars Reconnaissance Orbiter, which arrived at Mars on March 10, 2006, has also completed its prime mission and is operating in an extended mission. The High Resolution Imaging Science Experiment is operated by the University of Arizona, Tucson. The instrument was built by Ball Aerospace Technologies Corp., Boulder, Colo. NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory, a division of the California Institute of Technology in Pasadena, manages the Mars Reconnaissance Orbiter and the Mars Exploration Rover projects for NASA's Science Mission Directorate, Washington, and built Opportunity and its twin rover, Spirit. Lockheed Martin Space Systems, Denver, is NASA's industry partner for the Mars Reconnaissance Orbiter project and built that spacecraft. Guy Webster 818-354-0474 Jet Propulsion Laboratory, Pasadena, Calif. guy.webs...@jpl.nasa.gov 2011-072 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] MRO HiRISE Images - March 9, 2011
MARS RECONNAISSANCE ORBITER HIRISE IMAGES March 9, 2011 o Evolution of the South Polar Seasonal Cap http://hirise.lpl.arizona.edu/ESP_021454_0925 o Changes on Dunes in Russell Crater http://hirise.lpl.arizona.edu/ESP_021496_1255 o Opportunity Still Knocks http://hirise.lpl.arizona.edu/releases/oppy-sm-color.php o DTM: Fresh Crater in North Polar Layered Deposits http://hirise.lpl.arizona.edu/dtm/dtm.php?ID=PSP_001462_2630 All of the HiRISE images are archived here: http://hirise.lpl.arizona.edu/ Information about the Mars Reconnaissance Orbiter is online at http://www.nasa.gov/mro. The mission is managed by NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory, a division of the California Institute of Technology, for the NASA Science Mission Directorate, Washington, D.C. Lockheed Martin Space Systems, of Denver, is the prime contractor and built the spacecraft. HiRISE is operated by the University of Arizona. Ball Aerospace and Technologies Corp., of Boulder, Colo., built the HiRISE instrument. __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Welcome home
Welcome Home Mike and Robert. It's good to have you guys back! Regards, Eric On 3/9/2011 5:57 AM, Greg Hupe wrote: Mike Farmer and Robert Ward are back home!! They just landed on US soil yesterday afternoon after a two month stay on a not-so-luxury vacation abroad! :/ Best Regards, Greg Greg Hupe The Hupe Collection gmh...@centurylink.net www.LunarRock.com IMCA 3163 -Original Message- From: Michael Gilmer Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2011 8:52 AM To: Walter Branch Cc: meteorite list ; Matson,Robert D. Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Welcome home I think it has something to do with a couple of blokes shipwrecked on a deserted island. On 3/9/11, Walter Branch waltbra...@bellsouth.net wrote: What's this about? -Walter - Original Message - From: Matson, Robert D. robert.d.mat...@saic.com To: meteorite list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2011 9:44 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Welcome home Hi Richard, Wow! That's great news, and more than a month earlier than originally expected (if I'm remember the April date correctly). Hopefully they are both in good health. Welcome home guys! Rob -Original Message- From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of Richard Kowalski Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2011 6:32 PM To: meteorite list Subject: [meteorite-list] Welcome home Glad to see Mike Robert are back home! -- Richard Kowalski Full Moon Photography IMCA #1081 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] MURCHISON at Heritage House
49 x 38 x 21 mm (2 x 1.5 x .75 inches) and 30.76 grams. Provenance: Field Museum of Natural History, Chicago; The Macovich Collection of Meteorites. Estimate: $2,500 Reserve Amount: $2,250 w/ Buyer's Premium (BP)$2,688.75 http://fineart.ha.com/common/search_results.php?N=50+793+794+792+2088+4294955864+137type=amer6059cls-tem030911 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Murchinson for ca. 100 Dollar/gramm wanted !
Not for 722g individuals, thanks. Fresh out of $72K right now. Maybe next week. Michael On 3/9/11 5:25 AM, Met. Jim Strope nwa...@comcast.net wrote: Should I consider that an opening offer, Michael? http://www.catchafallingstar.com/murchison723.htm Jim Strope http://www.catchafallingstar.com/ On 3/9/11 7:37 AM, Michael Blood mlblood at cox.net wrote: I want all I can get at that price! Michael __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list -- Teachin' a pig to dance is a waste of time and it irritates the pig Mark Twain -- 1. Whenever you're wrong, admit it, 2. Whenever you're right, shut up. Shaquille O'Neal __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Murchinson for ca. 100 Dollar/gramm wanted !
So, Michael. Your statement... I want all I can get at that price! was a lot of HOT AIR Just wondering, LOLoud. BTW, it is NOT for sale for 72K anyway. Jim Strope 421 Fourth Street Glen Dale, WV 26038 http://www.catchafallingstar.com/ - Original Message - From: Michael Blood mlbl...@cox.net To: Met. Jim Strope nwa...@comcast.net, Meteorite List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Wednesday, March 9, 2011 3:37:51 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Murchinson for ca. 100 Dollar/gramm wanted ! Not for 722g individuals, thanks. Fresh out of $72K right now. Maybe next week. Michael On 3/9/11 5:25 AM, Met. Jim Strope nwa...@comcast.net wrote: Should I consider that an opening offer, Michael? http://www.catchafallingstar.com/murchison723.htm Jim Strope http://www.catchafallingstar.com/ On 3/9/11 7:37 AM, Michael Blood mlblood at cox.net wrote: I want all I can get at that price! Michael __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list -- Teachin' a pig to dance is a waste of time and it irritates the pig Mark Twain -- 1. Whenever you're wrong, admit it, 2. Whenever you're right, shut up. Shaquille O'Neal __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Where is all the Murchison???
and then there's my prized collection piece here. :-) http://www.rocksfromspace.org/March_5_2010.html Graham On 9 March 2011 07:54, Jeff Kuyken i...@meteorites.com.au wrote: Hi Richard all, I've been watching Murchison pretty carefully over the last 12-24mths. There has been a somewhat steep incline in price that I believe is probably mainly due to the amount of media attention it has received during that time. Personally I think it's over-priced and I would not expect the price to stay there. eBay auctions often go unsold (probably because the prices are too high) and most pieces do seem to be under 2g. But all that said, if anyone wants any Murchison stones for the current prices of $150-$200/g just let me know. There are several stones available over here from 10-80g. Cheers, Jeff Kuyken Meteorites Australia www.meteorites.com.au Vice President - I.M.C.A. Inc. www.imca.cc - Original Message - From: Richard Kowalski damoc...@yahoo.com To: meteorite list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2011 6:36 AM Subject: [meteorite-list] Where is all the Murchison??? Recently some of us had a discussion on Facebook about how rare Murchison seems to be. Rarely do you see as much as a gram available. The Heritage Auction has a huge Murchison, 535.9g individual (http://fineart.ha.com/common/view_item.php?Sale_No=6061Lot_No=49046) Maybe I've missed them, or not privy to their availability, but where is all the Murchison between a gram and and this largest individual? Anyone? -- Richard Kowalski Full Moon Photography IMCA #1081 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Where is all the Murchison???
And this may pale in size, but here's my little chunk of cosmic splendor.Arlene http://www.rocksfromspace.org/May_2_2009.html - Original Message - From: e-mail ensoramanda ensorama...@ntlworld.com To: Jeff Kuyken i...@meteorites.com.au Cc: meteorite list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2011 1:39 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Where is all the Murchison??? and then there's my prized collection piece here. :-) http://www.rocksfromspace.org/March_5_2010.html Graham On 9 March 2011 07:54, Jeff Kuyken i...@meteorites.com.au wrote: Hi Richard all, I've been watching Murchison pretty carefully over the last 12-24mths. There has been a somewhat steep incline in price that I believe is probably mainly due to the amount of media attention it has received during that time. Personally I think it's over-priced and I would not expect the price to stay there. eBay auctions often go unsold (probably because the prices are too high) and most pieces do seem to be under 2g. But all that said, if anyone wants any Murchison stones for the current prices of $150-$200/g just let me know. There are several stones available over here from 10-80g. Cheers, Jeff Kuyken Meteorites Australia www.meteorites.com.au Vice President - I.M.C.A. Inc. www.imca.cc - Original Message - From: Richard Kowalski damoc...@yahoo.com To: meteorite list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2011 6:36 AM Subject: [meteorite-list] Where is all the Murchison??? Recently some of us had a discussion on Facebook about how rare Murchison seems to be. Rarely do you see as much as a gram available. The Heritage Auction has a huge Murchison, 535.9g individual (http://fineart.ha.com/common/view_item.php?Sale_No=6061Lot_No=49046) Maybe I've missed them, or not privy to their availability, but where is all the Murchison between a gram and and this largest individual? Anyone? -- Richard Kowalski Full Moon Photography IMCA #1081 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Where is all the Murchison???
Well this thread certainly has taken twists and turns that I never expected! I see how my question wasn't fully formed (again) but that was actually a good thing. I wonder if this theme Where is all the ... ? might be something that the list can use in the future. So, is that all of the Murchison? -- Richard Kowalski Full Moon Photography IMCA #1081 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Welcome Home
Yay! Welcome back Mike and Robert! Yes, Art, please let Mike post here again so we can all hear if Mike's new diet plan was success or not.:D Carl2 Chris Spratt wrote: From Mike Farmer's Facebook page, he wants Art to put him back on the list so he can tell full story of his trip. __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Welcome Home
Yes-Welcome back Mike and Robert! ArtPlease reinstate Mikewe all would love to hear his story! - Original Message - From: Carl 's carloselgua...@hotmail.com To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2011 4:18 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Welcome Home Yay! Welcome back Mike and Robert! Yes, Art, please let Mike post here again so we can all hear if Mike's new diet plan was success or not.:D Carl2 Chris Spratt wrote: From Mike Farmer's Facebook page, he wants Art to put him back on the list so he can tell full story of his trip. __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Where is all the Murchison???
...but some prefer fullslices... http://www.chladnis-heirs.com/vip/cm2-21.355g.jpg ;-) Martin -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] Im Auftrag von e-mail ensoramanda Gesendet: Mittwoch, 9. März 2011 22:40 An: Jeff Kuyken Cc: meteorite list Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] Where is all the Murchison??? and then there's my prized collection piece here. :-) http://www.rocksfromspace.org/March_5_2010.html Graham __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Another Odd Item on Ebay
List: Found this on Ebay - quite odd I must say. I love the first sentance in the description, This Specimen is very similar to a golf ball I think that's a red flag. The question is: What is it? http://cgi.ebay.com/Iron-Ball-Meteorite-Five-Colors-Surface-Mexico-/180635286607?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0hash=item2a0eb3bc4f Greg S. __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Welcome Home
If my opinion counts for anything, I say let Farmer on the List again. The chronicles of his latest adventure with Robert ought to be a great story. John Gwilliam At 03:18 PM 3/9/2011, Carl 's wrote: Yay! Welcome back Mike and Robert! Yes, Art, please let Mike post here again so we can all hear if Mike's new diet plan was success or not.:D Carl2 Chris Spratt wrote: From Mike Farmer's Facebook page, he wants Art to put him back on the list so he can tell full story of his trip. __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list Regards, John Gwilliam Some people are born on third base and go through life thinking they hit a triple. [Bob Dylan] __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Another Odd Item on Ebay
The photos are out of focus or too dark, so it could be anything. - Original Message - From: Thunder Stone stanleygr...@hotmail.com To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2011 6:10 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Another Odd Item on Ebay List: Found this on Ebay - quite odd I must say. I love the first sentance in the description, This Specimen is very similar to a golf ball I think that's a red flag. The question is: What is it? http://cgi.ebay.com/Iron-Ball-Meteorite-Five-Colors-Surface-Mexico-/180635286607?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0hash=item2a0eb3bc4f Greg S. __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Another Odd Item on Ebay
I'm guessing a slightly used meatball. Since it's over $200, maybe it was taken from Lady Gaga's plate. Bob On Wed, Mar 9, 2011 at 5:47 PM, Ed Deckert edeck...@triad.rr.com wrote: The photos are out of focus or too dark, so it could be anything. - Original Message - From: Thunder Stone stanleygr...@hotmail.com To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2011 6:10 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Another Odd Item on Ebay List: Found this on Ebay - quite odd I must say. I love the first sentance in the description, This Specimen is very similar to a golf ball I think that's a red flag. The question is: What is it? http://cgi.ebay.com/Iron-Ball-Meteorite-Five-Colors-Surface-Mexico-/180635286607?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0hash=item2a0eb3bc4f Greg S. __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Dawn Spacecraft Creeping Up on Vesta
http://blogs.jpl.nasa.gov/2011/03/dawn-spacecraft-creeping-up-on-vesta/ Dawn Spacecraft Creeping Up on Vesta By Marc Rayman March 9, 2011 NASA's Dawn spacecraft is a mere four months away from getting into orbit around its first target, the giant asteroid Vesta. Each month, Marc Rayman, Dawn's chief engineer, shares an update on the mission's progress. Dear Pleasant Dawnversions, Deep in the asteroid belt, Dawn continues thrusting with its ion propulsion system. The spacecraft is making excellent progress in reshaping its orbit around the sun to match that of its destination, the unexplored world Vesta, with arrival now less than five months away. We have considered before the extraordinary differences between Dawn's method of entering orbit and that of planetary missions employing conventional propulsion. This explorer will creep up on Vesta, gradually spiraling closer and closer. Because the probe and its target already are following such similar routes around the sun, Dawn is now approaching Vesta relatively slowly compared to most solar system velocities. The benefit of the more than two years of gentle ion thrusting the spacecraft has completed so far is that now it is closing in at only 0.7 kilometers per second (1600 mph). Each day of powered flight causes that speed to decrease by about 7 meters per second (16 mph) as their orbital paths become still more similar. Of course, both are hurtling around the sun much faster, traveling at more than 21 kilometers per second (47,000 mph), but for Dawn to achieve orbit around Vesta, what matters is their relative velocity. It may be tempting to think of that difference from other missions as somehow being a result of the destination being different, but that is not the case. The spiral course Dawn will take is a direct consequence of its method of propelling itself. If this spacecraft were entering orbit around any other planetary body, it would follow the same kind of flight plan. This unfamiliar kind of trajectory ensues from the long periods of thrusting (enabled by the uniquely high fuel efficiency of the ion propulsion system) with an extremely gentle force. Designing the spiral trajectories is a complex and sophisticated process. It is not sufficient simply to turn the thrust on and expect to arrive at the desired destination, any more than it is sufficient to press the accelerator pedal on your car and expect to reach your goal. You have to steer carefully (and if you don't, please don't drive near me), and so does Dawn. As the ship revolves around Vesta in the giant asteroidâs gravitational grip, it has to change the pointing of the xenon beam constantly to stay on precisely the desired winding route to the intended science orbits. Dawn will scrutinize Vesta from three different orbits, known somewhat inconveniently as survey orbit http://dawn.jpl.nasa.gov/mission/journal_05_27_10.asp, high altitude mapping orbit (HAMO) http://dawn.jpl.nasa.gov/mission/journal_09_27_10.asp, and low altitude mapping orbit (LAMO) http://dawn.jpl.nasa.gov/mission/journal_12_30_10.asp. Upon concluding its measurements in each phase, it will resume operating its ion propulsion system, using the mission control team's instructions for pointing its thruster to fly along the planned spiral to the next orbit. Those who have navigated around the solar system, as well as others who have contemplated the nature of orbits without having practical experience, recognize that the lower the orbital altitude, the faster the orbital motion. This important principle is a consequence of gravityâs strength increasing as the distance between the massive body and the orbiting object decreases. The speed has to increase to balance the stronger gravitational pull. (For a reminder of some of the details, be sure to go here http://dawn.jpl.nasa.gov/mission/journal_8_24_08.asp before you go out for your next orbital expedition.) Dawn's winding orbital path obeys the same rules. The lower the orbit, the faster and tighter the spirals, because the orbital velocity is greater. The first few coiled routes around Vesta this summer will be long and slow http://dawn.jpl.nasa.gov/mission/journal_04_28_10.asp, taking days to complete. When it is at the lowest altitude, where each orbit takes only four hours, the spirals will be that much faster, so the craft will have to steer with greater agility to synchronize its ion thrusting with its rapidly changing location. In its interplanetary travels, spiraling outward from the sun to reach Vesta, each loop takes years to complete, so Dawn has not yet had to steer through any tight turns. The direction it aims the operating thruster hardly moves at all during a full week of thrusting. Pointing a thruster in the direction needed to spiral around Vesta requires turning the entire spacecraft. Each thruster is mounted on its own gimbal with only a very limited range of motion. In normal operation, the gimbal is aimed so that the
Re: [meteorite-list] Another Odd Item on Ebay
If it relates to all the others he is selling at the moment as meteorites they are definitely not meteorites...most look like hematite. Graham On 9 March 2011 23:47, Ed Deckert edeck...@triad.rr.com wrote: The photos are out of focus or too dark, so it could be anything. - Original Message - From: Thunder Stone stanleygr...@hotmail.com To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2011 6:10 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Another Odd Item on Ebay List: Found this on Ebay - quite odd I must say. I love the first sentance in the description, This Specimen is very similar to a golf ball I think that's a red flag. The question is: What is it? http://cgi.ebay.com/Iron-Ball-Meteorite-Five-Colors-Surface-Mexico-/180635286607?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0hash=item2a0eb3bc4f Greg S. __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Prolific NASA Orbiter Reaches Five-Year Mark (MRO)
http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/news/news.cfm?release=2011-073 Prolific NASA Orbiter Reaches Five-Year Mark Jet Propulsion Laboratory March 09, 2011 PASADENA, Calif. -- NASA's versatile Mars Reconnaissance Orbiter, which began orbiting Mars five years ago tomorrow, March 10, has radically expanded our knowledge of the Red Planet and is now working overtime. The mission has provided copious information about ancient environments, ice-age-scale climate cycles and present-day changes on Mars. The orbiter observes Mars' surface, subsurface and atmosphere in unprecedented detail. The spacecraft's large solar panels and dish antenna have enabled it to transmit more data to Earth -- 131 terabits and counting, including more than 70,000 images -- than all other interplanetary missions combined. Yet many things had to go well for the mission to achieve these milestones. After a seven-month journey from Earth, the spacecraft fired its six main engines for nearly 27 minutes as it approached Mars on March 10, 2006. Mars could not capture it into orbit without this critically timed maneuver to slow the spacecraft. The orbiter's intended path took it behind Mars, out of communication, during most of the engine burn. That was tense, waiting until the spacecraft came back out from behind Mars and we had contact, recalled Dan Johnston, now the mission's deputy project manager at NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory, Pasadena, Calif. The Mars Reconnaissance Orbiter mission met all its science goals in a two-year primary science phase. Two extensions, the latest beginning in 2010, have added to the bounty of science returns. The mission has illuminated three very different periods of Mars history. Its observations of the heavily cratered terrains of Mars, the oldest on the planet, show that different types of ancient watery environments formed water-related minerals. Some of these would have been more favorable for life than others. In more recent times, water appears to have cycled as a gas between polar ice deposits and lower-latitude deposits of ice and snow. Extensive layering in ice or rock probably took hundreds of thousands to millions of years to form and, like ice ages on Earth, is linked to cyclic changes in the tilt of the planet's rotation axis and the changing intensity of sunlight near the poles. The present climate is also dynamic, with volatile carbon dioxide and, just possibly, summertime liquid water modifying gullies and forming new streaks. With observations of new craters, avalanches and dust storms, the orbiter has shown a partially frozen world, but not frozen in time, as change continues today. In addition to its science observations, the mission provides support for other spacecraft as they land and operate on the surface. The orbiter's cameras captured the Phoenix Mars Lander as it parachuted to the surface in 2008 and monitored the atmosphere for dust storms that would affect Phoenix and the Mars Exploration Rovers Spirit and Opportunity. The Mars Reconnaissance Orbiter augmented NASA's Mars Odyssey in performing relay functions for these missions. JPL's Phil Varghese, project manager for the Mars Reconnaissance Orbiter, said, The spacecraft is still in excellent health. After five years at Mars, it continues with dual capabilities for conducting science observations, monitoring the Mars environment and serving as a relay. The orbiter has examined potential landing sites for NASA's Mars Science Laboratory mission, which will land a rover named Curiosity at one of those sites in August 2012. We are preparing to support the arrival of the Mars Science Laboratory and the rover's surface operations, Varghese said. In the meantime, we will extend the science observations into a third Martian year. One Mars year lasts nearly two Earth years. The orbiter's Mars Color Imager has produced more than four Earth years of daily global weather maps. More than 18,500 images from the High Resolution Imaging Science Experiment camera have resolved features as small as a desk in target areas scattered around the planet that, combined, cover about as much ground as Alaska. More than 36,900 images from the Context Camera cover nearly two-thirds of the surface of Mars at a resolution that allows detection of features the size of large buildings. The Compact Reconnaissance Spectrometer for Mars has mapped minerals on more than three-fourths of the planet's surface. The Mars Climate Sounder has monitored atmospheric temperature and aerosols with more than 59 million soundings. The Shallow Radar has checked for underground layers in more than 8,600 swaths of ground-penetrating observations. Each Mars year is unique, and additional coverage gives us a better chance to understand the nature of changes in the atmosphere and on the surface, said JPL's Rich Zurek, project scientist for the Mars Reconnaissance Orbiter. We have already learned that Mars is a more dynamic and diverse planet than what we knew five years
Re: [meteorite-list] Where is all the Murchison???
Here is one hell of a splendid specimen of 6.350g with Orientation, bubbling, etc. $1,500- http://michaelbloodmeteorites.com/Murchison6_350gA.jpg And another angle here: http://michaelbloodmeteorites.com/Murchison6_350B.jpg Best regards, Michael - Original Message - From: Richard Kowalski damoc...@yahoo.com To: meteorite list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2011 6:36 AM Subject: [meteorite-list] Where is all the Murchison??? Recently some of us had a discussion on Facebook about how rare Murchison seems to be. Rarely do you see as much as a gram available. The Heritage Auction has a huge Murchison, 535.9g individual (http://fineart.ha.com/common/view_item.php?Sale_No=6061Lot_No=49046) Maybe I've missed them, or not privy to their availability, but where is all the Murchison between a gram and and this largest individual? Anyone? -- Richard Kowalski Full Moon Photography IMCA #1081 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list -- Teachin' a pig to dance is a waste of time and it irritates the pig Mark Twain -- 1. Whenever you're wrong, admit it, 2. Whenever you're right, shut up. Shaquille O'Neal __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Welcome Home
To Becky, Kirk, Carl 2, et al. No one (except Melody Rob's sweetie) is happier than I that Mike and Rob are safe and free. However, those of you who are calling for his return to the List have forgotten that Mike's self medication is highly unreliable And he is given not only to fits of frothing at the mouth blather and Attack, but also to obscenity, etc. NO, while I am very happy to see him safe and free and look Foreword to seeing him at the Tucson Show - where I can walk out Of his room if he is in the throws of negativity, there is NO WAY I would ever want to see him back on this list. I would love for someone - perhaps Jim Strope or the like to Send the list a web site address when Michael is ready to tell his Story and we can all go there and read about it. How quickly people forget (or perhaps you weren't on the list Then?) that Mike was taken off the list more than once, later allowed To return and eventually fell back into mad dog mode rantings and Attacks. By all means, do not take my word for it - go into the list archives And read some of those posts yourself (though Art may have deleted Some of the worst ones for obscenity and possible slander suits). Welcome back Mike! But not to the list, please. READ THE ARCHIVES. Perhaps if Mike were to get psychiatric help and establish a Stability on prescription medication - but don't hold your breath. He has publicly stated many times he goes to Mexico for Haldol And one more than one occasion stated he needed to adjust his Dosage. Mental illness is a serious disease and needs to be treated As such. Mike has many terrific characteristics which I enjoy And admire. He is generally generous, honest and I do not doubt He has a good heart - I pray he gets the help he needs. However, until then, I do not want to read endless hostile, ranting posts. READ THE ARCHIVES. Sincerely, Michael Blood On 3/9/11 2:36 PM, Becky and Kirk ba...@chorus.net wrote: Yes-Welcome back Mike and Robert! ArtPlease reinstate Mikewe all would love to hear his story! - Original Message - From: Carl 's carloselgua...@hotmail.com To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2011 4:18 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Welcome Home Yay! Welcome back Mike and Robert! Yes, Art, please let Mike post here again so we can all hear if Mike's new diet plan was success or not.:D Carl2 Chris Spratt wrote: From Mike Farmer's Facebook page, he wants Art to put him back on the list so he can tell full story of his trip. __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list -- Teachin' a pig to dance is a waste of time and it irritates the pig Mark Twain -- 1. Whenever you're wrong, admit it, 2. Whenever you're right, shut up. Shaquille O'Neal __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Where is all the Murchison???
(Sung to the tune of Eleanor Rigby by the Beatles) All the little Murchies, where do they all come from? All the little Murchies, where do they all belong? On 3/9/11, Michael Blood mlbl...@cox.net wrote: Here is one hell of a splendid specimen of 6.350g with Orientation, bubbling, etc. $1,500- http://michaelbloodmeteorites.com/Murchison6_350gA.jpg And another angle here: http://michaelbloodmeteorites.com/Murchison6_350B.jpg Best regards, Michael - Original Message - From: Richard Kowalski damoc...@yahoo.com To: meteorite list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2011 6:36 AM Subject: [meteorite-list] Where is all the Murchison??? Recently some of us had a discussion on Facebook about how rare Murchison seems to be. Rarely do you see as much as a gram available. The Heritage Auction has a huge Murchison, 535.9g individual (http://fineart.ha.com/common/view_item.php?Sale_No=6061Lot_No=49046) Maybe I've missed them, or not privy to their availability, but where is all the Murchison between a gram and and this largest individual? Anyone? -- Richard Kowalski Full Moon Photography IMCA #1081 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list -- Teachin' a pig to dance is a waste of time and it irritates the pig Mark Twain -- 1. Whenever you're wrong, admit it, 2. Whenever you're right, shut up. Shaquille O'Neal __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list -- -- Mike Gilmer - Galactic Stone Ironworks Meteorites Website - http://www.galactic-stone.com Facebook - http://www.facebook.com/galacticstone News Feed - http://www.galactic-stone.com/rss/126516 Twitter - http://twitter.com/galacticstone EOM - http://www.encyclopedia-of-meteorites.com/collection.aspx?id=1564 --- __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Large Murchison at the Perth West Asutralian Museum
Hi all, Not sure about the size but it will fit in both of your hands. Will be heading there next week and will try to get the size. See pictures here... http://tektiteinc.com/murchison.html Cheers, Desmond Leong IMCA #2254 http://www.TektiteInc.com http://stores.ebay.com/Tektite-Inc __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Where is all the Murchison???
Hello Lister, All the Murchison is here --- http://www.lpi.usra.edu/meteor/index.php?sea=Murchisonsfor=namesants=falls=valids=stype=containslrec=50map=gebrowse=country=Allsrt=namecateg=Allmblist=Allrect=phot=snew=0pnt=Normal tablecode=16875 Shawn Alan IMCA 1633 eBaystore http://shop.ebay.com/photophlow/m.html [meteorite-list] Where is all the Murchison??? Michael Gilmer meteoritemike at gmail.com Wed Mar 9 19:42:51 EST 2011 Previous message: [meteorite-list] Where is all the Murchison??? Next message: [meteorite-list] Where is all the Murchison??? Messages sorted by: [ date ] [ thread ] [ subject ] [ author ] (Sung to the tune of Eleanor Rigby by the Beatles) All the little Murchies, where do they all come from? All the little Murchies, where do they all belong? On 3/9/11, Michael Blood mlblood at cox.net wrote: Here is one hell of a splendid specimen of 6.350g with Orientation, bubbling, etc. $1,500- http://michaelbloodmeteorites.com/Murchison6_350gA.jpg And another angle here: http://michaelbloodmeteorites.com/Murchison6_350B.jpg Best regards, Michael - Original Message - From: Richard Kowalski damoclid at yahoo.com To: meteorite list meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2011 6:36 AM Subject: [meteorite-list] Where is all the Murchison??? Recently some of us had a discussion on Facebook about how rare Murchison seems to be. Rarely do you see as much as a gram available. The Heritage Auction has a huge Murchison, 535.9g individual (http://fineart.ha.com/common/view_item.php?Sale_No=6061Lot_No=49046) Maybe I've missed them, or not privy to their availability, but where is all the Murchison between a gram and and this largest individual? Anyone? -- Richard Kowalski Full Moon Photography IMCA #1081 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list -- Teachin' a pig to dance is a waste of time and it irritates the pig Mark Twain -- 1. Whenever you're wrong, admit it, 2. Whenever you're right, shut up. Shaquille O'Neal __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list -- -- Mike Gilmer - Galactic Stone Ironworks Meteorites Website - http://www.galactic-stone.com Facebook - http://www.facebook.com/galacticstone News Feed - http://www.galactic-stone.com/rss/126516 Twitter - http://twitter.com/galacticstone EOM - http://www.encyclopedia-of-meteorites.com/collection.aspx?id=1564 --- Previous message: [meteorite-list] Where is all the Murchison??? Next message: [meteorite-list] Where is all the Murchison??? Messages sorted by: [ date ] [ thread ] [ subject ] [ author ] More information about the Meteorite-list mailing list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Where is all the Murchison???
I have a tiny .25gr. :-) Stuart McDaniel Lawndale, NC Secr., Cleve. Co. Astronomical Society -Original Message- From: Martin Altmann Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2011 5:36 PM To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Where is all the Murchison??? ...but some prefer fullslices... http://www.chladnis-heirs.com/vip/cm2-21.355g.jpg ;-) Martin -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] Im Auftrag von e-mail ensoramanda Gesendet: Mittwoch, 9. März 2011 22:40 An: Jeff Kuyken Cc: meteorite list Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] Where is all the Murchison??? and then there's my prized collection piece here. :-) http://www.rocksfromspace.org/March_5_2010.html Graham __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Another Odd Item on Ebay
Hematite or magnetite?? Stuart McDaniel Lawndale, NC Secr., Cleve. Co. Astronomical Society -Original Message- From: Thunder Stone Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2011 6:10 PM To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] Another Odd Item on Ebay List: Found this on Ebay - quite odd I must say. I love the first sentance in the description, This Specimen is very similar to a golf ball I think that's a red flag. The question is: What is it? http://cgi.ebay.com/Iron-Ball-Meteorite-Five-Colors-Surface-Mexico-/180635286607?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0hash=item2a0eb3bc4f Greg S. __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Welcome Home
Is this some kind of joke? BTWay, your post would have been easir to read if the punctuation and capitalization was presented properly. Jim Strope 421 Fourth Street Glen Dale, WV 26038 http://www.catchafallingstar.com/ To Becky, Kirk, Carl 2, et al. No one (except Melody Rob's sweetie) is happier than I that Mike and Rob are safe and free. However, those of you who are calling for his return to the List have forgotten that Mike's self medication is highly unreliable And he is given not only to fits of frothing at the mouth blather and Attack, but also to obscenity, etc. NO, while I am very happy to see him safe and free and look Foreword to seeing him at the Tucson Show - where I can walk out Of his room if he is in the throws of negativity, there is NO WAY I would ever want to see him back on this list. I would love for someone - perhaps Jim Strope or the like to Send the list a web site address when Michael is ready to tell his Story and we can all go there and read about it. How quickly people forget (or perhaps you weren't on the list Then?) that Mike was taken off the list more than once, later allowed To return and eventually fell back into mad dog mode rantings and Attacks. By all means, do not take my word for it - go into the list archives And read some of those posts yourself (though Art may have deleted Some of the worst ones for obscenity and possible slander suits). Welcome back Mike! But not to the list, please. READ THE ARCHIVES. Perhaps if Mike were to get psychiatric help and establish a Stability on prescription medication - but don't hold your breath. He has publicly stated many times he goes to Mexico for Haldol And one more than one occasion stated he needed to adjust his Dosage. Mental illness is a serious disease and needs to be treated As such. Mike has many terrific characteristics which I enjoy And admire. He is generally generous, honest and I do not doubt He has a good heart - I pray he gets the help he needs. However, until then, I do not want to read endless hostile, ranting posts. READ THE ARCHIVES. Sincerely, Michael Blood __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Welcome Home
Capt. Blood, I do not know what to think of your post. Is it already April Fool's Day? If this is a joke, I don't get it! :/ Best Regards, Greg -Original Message- From: Michael Blood Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2011 7:42 PM To: Becky and Kirk ; Carl 's ; Meteorite List Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Welcome Home To Becky, Kirk, Carl 2, et al. No one (except Melody Rob's sweetie) is happier than I that Mike and Rob are safe and free. However, those of you who are calling for his return to the List have forgotten that Mike's self medication is highly unreliable And he is given not only to fits of frothing at the mouth blather and Attack, but also to obscenity, etc. NO, while I am very happy to see him safe and free and look Foreword to seeing him at the Tucson Show - where I can walk out Of his room if he is in the throws of negativity, there is NO WAY I would ever want to see him back on this list. I would love for someone - perhaps Jim Strope or the like to Send the list a web site address when Michael is ready to tell his Story and we can all go there and read about it. How quickly people forget (or perhaps you weren't on the list Then?) that Mike was taken off the list more than once, later allowed To return and eventually fell back into mad dog mode rantings and Attacks. By all means, do not take my word for it - go into the list archives And read some of those posts yourself (though Art may have deleted Some of the worst ones for obscenity and possible slander suits). Welcome back Mike! But not to the list, please. READ THE ARCHIVES. Perhaps if Mike were to get psychiatric help and establish a Stability on prescription medication - but don't hold your breath. He has publicly stated many times he goes to Mexico for Haldol And one more than one occasion stated he needed to adjust his Dosage. Mental illness is a serious disease and needs to be treated As such. Mike has many terrific characteristics which I enjoy And admire. He is generally generous, honest and I do not doubt He has a good heart - I pray he gets the help he needs. However, until then, I do not want to read endless hostile, ranting posts. READ THE ARCHIVES. Sincerely, Michael Blood On 3/9/11 2:36 PM, Becky and Kirk ba...@chorus.net wrote: Yes-Welcome back Mike and Robert! ArtPlease reinstate Mikewe all would love to hear his story! - Original Message - From: Carl 's carloselgua...@hotmail.com To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2011 4:18 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Welcome Home Yay! Welcome back Mike and Robert! Yes, Art, please let Mike post here again so we can all hear if Mike's new diet plan was success or not.:D Carl2 Chris Spratt wrote: From Mike Farmer's Facebook page, he wants Art to put him back on the list so he can tell full story of his trip. __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list -- Teachin' a pig to dance is a waste of time and it irritates the pig Mark Twain -- 1. Whenever you're wrong, admit it, 2. Whenever you're right, shut up. Shaquille O'Neal __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Where is all the Murchison???
I found the Murch. Belly up to the Murchison buffet: MURCHISON CM2 Fell on 9/28/1969 at 1045-1100 hrs. Victoria, Australia MU 2640 Fragments 17,116.66 g ME 2641 Fragments and individuals from 6 down in size. 5,325.60 g ME 2642 Mass + 15 thin sections + 1 thick section 1,206.00 g ME 2644 Four fragments 6,463.10 g ME 2682 11 Fragmented individuals (largest, 1233 g) 1,485.50 g ME 2683 Single individual. 1,526.00 g ME 2684 Many fragments of individuals and whole individual 4,100.11 g ME 2752 Over 100 individuals ranging from 1 to 10 cm dia. 8,224.20 g --- Phil Whitmer __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
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You know... I've read some pretty F'd up things on list, but this one takes the F'ing cake Michael B. For crying out loud. Are you serious? I believe it's absolutely out of line considering the circumstance. I don't say much negative on list, and try to keep it down to a dull roar. But this time I can' help it... You've said some pretty hateful things Michael. This isn't even a bad joke... WTF? Regards, Eric On 3/9/2011 6:14 PM, Jim Strope wrote: Is this some kind of joke? BTWay, your post would have been easir to read if the punctuation and capitalization was presented properly. Jim Strope 421 Fourth Street Glen Dale, WV 26038 http://www.catchafallingstar.com/ To Becky, Kirk, Carl 2, et al. No one (except Melody Rob's sweetie) is happier than I that Mike and Rob are safe and free. However, those of you who are calling for his return to the List have forgotten that Mike's self medication is highly unreliable And he is given not only to fits of frothing at the mouth blather and Attack, but also to obscenity, etc. NO, while I am very happy to see him safe and free and look Foreword to seeing him at the Tucson Show - where I can walk out Of his room if he is in the throws of negativity, there is NO WAY I would ever want to see him back on this list. I would love for someone - perhaps Jim Strope or the like to Send the list a web site address when Michael is ready to tell his Story and we can all go there and read about it. How quickly people forget (or perhaps you weren't on the list Then?) that Mike was taken off the list more than once, later allowed To return and eventually fell back into mad dog mode rantings and Attacks. By all means, do not take my word for it - go into the list archives And read some of those posts yourself (though Art may have deleted Some of the worst ones for obscenity and possible slander suits). Welcome back Mike! But not to the list, please. READ THE ARCHIVES. Perhaps if Mike were to get psychiatric help and establish a Stability on prescription medication - but don't hold your breath. He has publicly stated many times he goes to Mexico for Haldol And one more than one occasion stated he needed to adjust his Dosage. Mental illness is a serious disease and needs to be treated As such. Mike has many terrific characteristics which I enjoy And admire. He is generally generous, honest and I do not doubt He has a good heart - I pray he gets the help he needs. However, until then, I do not want to read endless hostile, ranting posts. READ THE ARCHIVES. Sincerely, Michael Blood __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Where is all the Murchison???
Here's another 53.2 grams http://www.nakhladogmeteorites.com/collection/murch.htm Rob Wesel www.nakhladogmeteorites.com www.facebook.com/Nakhla.Dog.Meteorites www.facebook.com/Rob.Wesel -- We are the music makers... and we are the dreamers of the dreams. Willy Wonka, 1971 -- From: JoshuaTreeMuseum joshuatreemus...@embarqmail.com Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2011 6:25 PM To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] Where is all the Murchison??? I found the Murch. Belly up to the Murchison buffet: MURCHISON CM2 Fell on 9/28/1969 at 1045-1100 hrs. Victoria, Australia MU 2640 Fragments 17,116.66 g ME 2641 Fragments and individuals from 6 down in size. 5,325.60 g ME 2642 Mass + 15 thin sections + 1 thick section 1,206.00 g ME 2644 Four fragments 6,463.10 g ME 2682 11 Fragmented individuals (largest, 1233 g) 1,485.50 g ME 2683 Single individual. 1,526.00 g ME 2684 Many fragments of individuals and whole individual 4,100.11 g ME 2752 Over 100 individuals ranging from 1 to 10 cm dia. 8,224.20 g --- Phil Whitmer __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1204 / Virus Database: 1497/3495 - Release Date: 03/09/11 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Welcome Home
If Art decided not to allow Mike's return to the list to post the story of their trials and tribulations, I'd be more than happy to host the text on a page on my website. Mike has his own site too and can post it there if he chooses, but the offer is there if he and/or Robert wish to accept it. -- Richard Kowalski Full Moon Photography IMCA #1081 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Where is all the Murchison???
Apparently there is quiet a bit or Murchison around and available, but in sizes that are beyond the means of many budget minded collectors. No doubt why I haven't had a chance to see them before. I guess I'm a little surprised with so much apparent demand for 1 - 2 gram slices that no one seems to be cutting. I don't blame ya though. If I had individuals in these sizes, I wouldn't be too interested in cutting them up either. Cheers -- Richard Kowalski Full Moon Photography IMCA #1081 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Where is all the Murchison???
Hi List, Is there any such thing as a Murchison pea? I've never seen a tiny, complete, Murchison stone in the 1-4g range. Rob W. is the godfather of Murchison, I bet he would know. :) Best regards, MikeG -- Mike Gilmer - Galactic Stone Ironworks Meteorites Website - http://www.galactic-stone.com Facebook - http://www.facebook.com/galacticstone News Feed - http://www.galactic-stone.com/rss/126516 Twitter - http://twitter.com/galacticstone EOM - http://www.encyclopedia-of-meteorites.com/collection.aspx?id=1564 --- On 3/9/11, Richard Kowalski damoc...@yahoo.com wrote: Apparently there is quiet a bit or Murchison around and available, but in sizes that are beyond the means of many budget minded collectors. No doubt why I haven't had a chance to see them before. I guess I'm a little surprised with so much apparent demand for 1 - 2 gram slices that no one seems to be cutting. I don't blame ya though. If I had individuals in these sizes, I wouldn't be too interested in cutting them up either. Cheers -- Richard Kowalski Full Moon Photography IMCA #1081 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list -- __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Where is all the Murchison???
There is a nice whole baseball size stone in the Monnig Gallery. Stuart McDaniel Lawndale, NC Secr., Cleve. Co. Astronomical Society -Original Message- From: Richard Kowalski Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2011 9:40 PM To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Where is all the Murchison??? Apparently there is quiet a bit or Murchison around and available, but in sizes that are beyond the means of many budget minded collectors. No doubt why I haven't had a chance to see them before. I guess I'm a little surprised with so much apparent demand for 1 - 2 gram slices that no one seems to be cutting. I don't blame ya though. If I had individuals in these sizes, I wouldn't be too interested in cutting them up either. Cheers -- Richard Kowalski Full Moon Photography IMCA #1081 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
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Wow. I usually don't try to jump in on issues like this unless they are of a concern to me personally. Michael, I've always admired you and still do, but this was a total turn around, not only on your statement, but your wording. I've always been concerned over the Met List, at who's running it. I knows Art posts from time to time when things get bad. But now I've got to the point, who is Art? And how come you have become spokesman for the Met List? Are you Art? Or do you have carte blanche? No ill feelings intended, just want to put things in perspective. Cheers John IMCA #2125 -Original Message- From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of Michael Blood Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2011 4:42 PM To: Becky and Kirk; Carl 's; Meteorite List Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Welcome Home To Becky, Kirk, Carl 2, et al. No one (except Melody Rob's sweetie) is happier than I that Mike and Rob are safe and free. However, those of you who are calling for his return to the List have forgotten that Mike's self medication is highly unreliable And he is given not only to fits of frothing at the mouth blather and Attack, but also to obscenity, etc. NO, while I am very happy to see him safe and free and look Foreword to seeing him at the Tucson Show - where I can walk out Of his room if he is in the throws of negativity, there is NO WAY I would ever want to see him back on this list. I would love for someone - perhaps Jim Strope or the like to Send the list a web site address when Michael is ready to tell his Story and we can all go there and read about it. How quickly people forget (or perhaps you weren't on the list Then?) that Mike was taken off the list more than once, later allowed To return and eventually fell back into mad dog mode rantings and Attacks. By all means, do not take my word for it - go into the list archives And read some of those posts yourself (though Art may have deleted Some of the worst ones for obscenity and possible slander suits). Welcome back Mike! But not to the list, please. READ THE ARCHIVES. Perhaps if Mike were to get psychiatric help and establish a Stability on prescription medication - but don't hold your breath. He has publicly stated many times he goes to Mexico for Haldol And one more than one occasion stated he needed to adjust his Dosage. Mental illness is a serious disease and needs to be treated As such. Mike has many terrific characteristics which I enjoy And admire. He is generally generous, honest and I do not doubt He has a good heart - I pray he gets the help he needs. However, until then, I do not want to read endless hostile, ranting posts. READ THE ARCHIVES. Sincerely, Michael Blood On 3/9/11 2:36 PM, Becky and Kirk ba...@chorus.net wrote: Yes-Welcome back Mike and Robert! ArtPlease reinstate Mikewe all would love to hear his story! - Original Message - From: Carl 's carloselgua...@hotmail.com To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2011 4:18 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Welcome Home Yay! Welcome back Mike and Robert! Yes, Art, please let Mike post here again so we can all hear if Mike's new diet plan was success or not.:D Carl2 Chris Spratt wrote: From Mike Farmer's Facebook page, he wants Art to put him back on the list so he can tell full story of his trip. __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list -- Teachin' a pig to dance is a waste of time and it irritates the pig Mark Twain -- 1. Whenever you're wrong, admit it, 2. Whenever you're right, shut up. Shaquille O'Neal __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Journal of Cosmology
Interesting read. http://journalofcosmology.com/Life100.html Chris Spratt (Via my iPhone) __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Welcome Home
Jim, Gary, Eric and all, No, it is NOT a joke. There is nothing funny about This situation at all. I stated NOTHING in my post Mike has is not born Out in Mike's own public statements. (though Jim informs Me it may have been a different prescription drug he gets Out of Mexico) - hell folks, where have you been? READ THE STINKING ARCHIVES. If you all really cared about Mike's welfare you would Be trying to support him in getting professional help, get on prescribed medication and get stabilized. You are all having knee jerk reactions. Think about it. If Mike were your brother wouldn't you want to see him get proper treatment? Mike is home safe - thank God. While he was in danger I Did everything possible I could to minimize any negative impact On him. The list started yammering about it and I pointed out we Needed to remain silent lest we make matters worse for Mike and Rob. John Blennert gave the talk before the auction and we agreed It should not be telecast, as John went through a very similar situation in Oman a couple of years ago and Omani officials offered him $235,000 to get Mike back on Omani territory (so they could Incarcerate him). John TOLD Mike this upon his return and Mike Acted like John was blaming him for John's incarceration. This is ALSO NOT NEW INFORMATION - but somehow This group seems to think since Mike has been through a hard Time of late we should pretend he doesn't have a problem. Mike isn't going to listen to me because I am strait with him AND NO ONE ELSE seems to be willing to or they somehow just Don't see the self destructive behavior right in front of their face. If you all think everything Mike does does not add up to a Big problem for HIM, or, you just don't get it, or you just don't Think it is your place to confront him with his self destructive Behavior -- well, folks, I don't know what to tell you, but I can't Do that to a friend. (Yes, I am sure Mike does not consider me A friend right now - but as far as I am concerned, I am the only One who is really relating to him as a friend). Oh, ya, you can tell yourselves what I have said is not friendly. Well, what I think is not friendly is seeing a brother in trouble and Being unwilling to deal with him about it. I am dumbfounded at people's reactions - do you think that just Because he could have had his hands cut off or been in prison for Years or even put to death that that means we should all pretend He didn't put himself in that position AFTER it was clearly explained To him by John Blennert that Oman was OUT TO GET HIM? - Going to a KINGDOM you HAVE BEEN TOLD is out to get you - Self medicating with serious prescription drugs - Being a business man who regularly bursts into ranting and Raving at potential customers and co-businessmen These are all serious self destructive behaviors. So, Greg, Jim And Eric, if you really give a damn about Mike's welfare Don't just say, Hooray! You got back safe THIS TIME., help him get the help he needs. Sincerely, Michael On 3/9/11 6:28 PM, Met. Eric Wichman Escondido e...@meteoritesusa.com wrote: You know... I've read some pretty F'd up things on list, but this one takes the F'ing cake Michael B. For crying out loud. Are you serious? I believe it's absolutely out of line considering the circumstance. I don't say much negative on list, and try to keep it down to a dull roar. But this time I can' help it... You've said some pretty hateful things Michael. This isn't even a bad joke... WTF? Regards, Eric On 3/9/2011 6:14 PM, Jim Strope wrote: Is this some kind of joke? BTWay, your post would have been easir to read if the punctuation and capitalization was presented properly. Jim Strope 421 Fourth Street Glen Dale, WV 26038 http://www.catchafallingstar.com/ To Becky, Kirk, Carl 2, et al. No one (except Melody Rob's sweetie) is happier than I that Mike and Rob are safe and free. However, those of you who are calling for his return to the List have forgotten that Mike's self medication is highly unreliable And he is given not only to fits of frothing at the mouth blather and Attack, but also to obscenity, etc. NO, while I am very happy to see him safe and free and look Foreword to seeing him at the Tucson Show - where I can walk out Of his room if he is in the throws of negativity, there is NO WAY I would ever want to see him back on this list. I would love for someone - perhaps Jim Strope or the like to Send the list a web site address when Michael is ready to tell his Story and we can all go there and read about it. How quickly people forget (or perhaps you weren't on the list Then?) that Mike was taken off the list more than once, later allowed To return and eventually fell back into mad dog mode rantings and Attacks. By all means, do not take
Re: [meteorite-list] Where is all the Murchison???
Hereʻs a 41.75 grammer: http://bigkahuna-meteorites.com/Images/Murch41_75a.jpg And another 13.56g crusted frag: http://bigkahuna-meteorites.com/Images/Murchison.jpg You donʻt see much in terms of Murchison slices because its friable and susceptible to high cut loss. gary On Mar 9, 2011, at 4:40 PM, Richard Kowalski wrote: Apparently there is quiet a bit or Murchison around and available, but in sizes that are beyond the means of many budget minded collectors. No doubt why I haven't had a chance to see them before. I guess I'm a little surprised with so much apparent demand for 1 - 2 gram slices that no one seems to be cutting. I don't blame ya though. If I had individuals in these sizes, I wouldn't be too interested in cutting them up either. Cheers -- Richard Kowalski Full Moon Photography IMCA #1081 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list Gary Fujihara Big Kahuna Meteorites (IMCA#1693) 105 Puhili Place, Hilo, Hawai'i 96720 http://bigkahuna-meteorites.com/ http://shop.ebay.com/fujmon/m.html (808) 640-9161 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
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Michael, With all due respect, you're doing the same things you've bitterly accused Mike of and everyone here knows it. If you're truly concerned about Mike's wellbeing, perhaps you should take the vitriol OFFLIST and speak with him privately about it. Regards, Eric On 3/9/2011 7:36 PM, Michael Blood wrote: Jim, Gary, Eric and all, No, it is NOT a joke. There is nothing funny about This situation at all. I stated NOTHING in my post Mike has is not born Out in Mike's own public statements. (though Jim informs Me it may have been a different prescription drug he gets Out of Mexico) - hell folks, where have you been? READ THE STINKING ARCHIVES. If you all really cared about Mike's welfare you would Be trying to support him in getting professional help, get on prescribed medication and get stabilized. You are all having knee jerk reactions. Think about it. If Mike were your brother wouldn't you want to see him get proper treatment? Mike is home safe - thank God. While he was in danger I Did everything possible I could to minimize any negative impact On him. The list started yammering about it and I pointed out we Needed to remain silent lest we make matters worse for Mike and Rob. John Blennert gave the talk before the auction and we agreed It should not be telecast, as John went through a very similar situation in Oman a couple of years ago and Omani officials offered him $235,000 to get Mike back on Omani territory (so they could Incarcerate him). John TOLD Mike this upon his return and Mike Acted like John was blaming him for John's incarceration. This is ALSO NOT NEW INFORMATION - but somehow This group seems to think since Mike has been through a hard Time of late we should pretend he doesn't have a problem. Mike isn't going to listen to me because I am strait with him AND NO ONE ELSE seems to be willing to or they somehow just Don't see the self destructive behavior right in front of their face. If you all think everything Mike does does not add up to a Big problem for HIM, or, you just don't get it, or you just don't Think it is your place to confront him with his self destructive Behavior -- well, folks, I don't know what to tell you, but I can't Do that to a friend. (Yes, I am sure Mike does not consider me A friend right now - but as far as I am concerned, I am the only One who is really relating to him as a friend). Oh, ya, you can tell yourselves what I have said is not friendly. Well, what I think is not friendly is seeing a brother in trouble and Being unwilling to deal with him about it. I am dumbfounded at people's reactions - do you think that just Because he could have had his hands cut off or been in prison for Years or even put to death that that means we should all pretend He didn't put himself in that position AFTER it was clearly explained To him by John Blennert that Oman was OUT TO GET HIM? - Going to a KINGDOM you HAVE BEEN TOLD is out to get you - Self medicating with serious prescription drugs - Being a business man who regularly bursts into ranting and Raving at potential customers and co-businessmen These are all serious self destructive behaviors. So, Greg, Jim And Eric, if you really give a damn about Mike's welfare Don't just say, Hooray! You got back safe THIS TIME., help him get the help he needs. Sincerely, Michael On 3/9/11 6:28 PM, Met. Eric Wichman Escondidoe...@meteoritesusa.com wrote: You know... I've read some pretty F'd up things on list, but this one takes the F'ing cake Michael B. For crying out loud. Are you serious? I believe it's absolutely out of line considering the circumstance. I don't say much negative on list, and try to keep it down to a dull roar. But this time I can' help it... You've said some pretty hateful things Michael. This isn't even a bad joke... WTF? Regards, Eric On 3/9/2011 6:14 PM, Jim Strope wrote: Is this some kind of joke? BTWay, your post would have been easir to read if the punctuation and capitalization was presented properly. Jim Strope 421 Fourth Street Glen Dale, WV 26038 http://www.catchafallingstar.com/ To Becky, Kirk, Carl 2, et al. No one (except Melody Rob's sweetie) is happier than I that Mike and Rob are safe and free. However, those of you who are calling for his return to the List have forgotten that Mike's self medication is highly unreliable And he is given not only to fits of frothing at the mouth blather and Attack, but also to obscenity, etc. NO, while I am very happy to see him safe and free and look Foreword to seeing him at the Tucson Show - where I can walk out Of his room if he is in the throws of negativity, there is NO WAY I would ever want to see him back on this list. I would love for someone - perhaps Jim Strope or the like to Send the list a web site address when
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Hi Michael, With all due respect, if you really want to help Mike, don't you think you could do it in a little better fashion? If not, don't you think it is pretty low to cut him so badly the day after he returns home? I am friends with both of you and wouldn't want either one of you talking like this. Best Regards, Greg Greg Hupe The Hupe Collection gmh...@centurylink.net www.LunarRock.com IMCA 3163 -Original Message- From: Michael Blood Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2011 10:36 PM To: Met. Eric Wichman Escondido ; Meteorite List Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Welcome Home Jim, Gary, Eric and all, No, it is NOT a joke. There is nothing funny about This situation at all. I stated NOTHING in my post Mike has is not born Out in Mike's own public statements. (though Jim informs Me it may have been a different prescription drug he gets Out of Mexico) - hell folks, where have you been? READ THE STINKING ARCHIVES. If you all really cared about Mike's welfare you would Be trying to support him in getting professional help, get on prescribed medication and get stabilized. You are all having knee jerk reactions. Think about it. If Mike were your brother wouldn't you want to see him get proper treatment? Mike is home safe - thank God. While he was in danger I Did everything possible I could to minimize any negative impact On him. The list started yammering about it and I pointed out we Needed to remain silent lest we make matters worse for Mike and Rob. John Blennert gave the talk before the auction and we agreed It should not be telecast, as John went through a very similar situation in Oman a couple of years ago and Omani officials offered him $235,000 to get Mike back on Omani territory (so they could Incarcerate him). John TOLD Mike this upon his return and Mike Acted like John was blaming him for John's incarceration. This is ALSO NOT NEW INFORMATION - but somehow This group seems to think since Mike has been through a hard Time of late we should pretend he doesn't have a problem. Mike isn't going to listen to me because I am strait with him AND NO ONE ELSE seems to be willing to or they somehow just Don't see the self destructive behavior right in front of their face. If you all think everything Mike does does not add up to a Big problem for HIM, or, you just don't get it, or you just don't Think it is your place to confront him with his self destructive Behavior -- well, folks, I don't know what to tell you, but I can't Do that to a friend. (Yes, I am sure Mike does not consider me A friend right now - but as far as I am concerned, I am the only One who is really relating to him as a friend). Oh, ya, you can tell yourselves what I have said is not friendly. Well, what I think is not friendly is seeing a brother in trouble and Being unwilling to deal with him about it. I am dumbfounded at people's reactions - do you think that just Because he could have had his hands cut off or been in prison for Years or even put to death that that means we should all pretend He didn't put himself in that position AFTER it was clearly explained To him by John Blennert that Oman was OUT TO GET HIM? - Going to a KINGDOM you HAVE BEEN TOLD is out to get you - Self medicating with serious prescription drugs - Being a business man who regularly bursts into ranting and Raving at potential customers and co-businessmen These are all serious self destructive behaviors. So, Greg, Jim And Eric, if you really give a damn about Mike's welfare Don't just say, Hooray! You got back safe THIS TIME., help him get the help he needs. Sincerely, Michael On 3/9/11 6:28 PM, Met. Eric Wichman Escondido e...@meteoritesusa.com wrote: You know... I've read some pretty F'd up things on list, but this one takes the F'ing cake Michael B. For crying out loud. Are you serious? I believe it's absolutely out of line considering the circumstance. I don't say much negative on list, and try to keep it down to a dull roar. But this time I can' help it... You've said some pretty hateful things Michael. This isn't even a bad joke... WTF? Regards, Eric On 3/9/2011 6:14 PM, Jim Strope wrote: Is this some kind of joke? BTWay, your post would have been easir to read if the punctuation and capitalization was presented properly. Jim Strope 421 Fourth Street Glen Dale, WV 26038 http://www.catchafallingstar.com/ To Becky, Kirk, Carl 2, et al. No one (except Melody Rob's sweetie) is happier than I that Mike and Rob are safe and free. However, those of you who are calling for his return to the List have forgotten that Mike's self medication is highly unreliable And he is given not only to fits of frothing at the mouth blather and Attack, but also to obscenity, etc. NO, while I am very happy to see him safe and free and look Foreword to seeing him at the Tucson
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Greg, I agree. Let this rest. They've been a long time from home, let them catch up. That's what I would want. And after I speak my words, then you can judge me until then, keep your thoughts to yourself. That's my $2.50 AUD Cheers John IMCA # 2125 -Original Message- From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of Greg Hupe Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2011 7:58 PM To: Michael Blood; Meteorite List Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Welcome Home Hi Michael, With all due respect, if you really want to help Mike, don't you think you could do it in a little better fashion? If not, don't you think it is pretty low to cut him so badly the day after he returns home? I am friends with both of you and wouldn't want either one of you talking like this. Best Regards, Greg Greg Hupe The Hupe Collection gmh...@centurylink.net www.LunarRock.com IMCA 3163 -Original Message- From: Michael Blood Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2011 10:36 PM To: Met. Eric Wichman Escondido ; Meteorite List Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Welcome Home Jim, Gary, Eric and all, No, it is NOT a joke. There is nothing funny about This situation at all. I stated NOTHING in my post Mike has is not born Out in Mike's own public statements. (though Jim informs Me it may have been a different prescription drug he gets Out of Mexico) - hell folks, where have you been? READ THE STINKING ARCHIVES. If you all really cared about Mike's welfare you would Be trying to support him in getting professional help, get on prescribed medication and get stabilized. You are all having knee jerk reactions. Think about it. If Mike were your brother wouldn't you want to see him get proper treatment? Mike is home safe - thank God. While he was in danger I Did everything possible I could to minimize any negative impact On him. The list started yammering about it and I pointed out we Needed to remain silent lest we make matters worse for Mike and Rob. John Blennert gave the talk before the auction and we agreed It should not be telecast, as John went through a very similar situation in Oman a couple of years ago and Omani officials offered him $235,000 to get Mike back on Omani territory (so they could Incarcerate him). John TOLD Mike this upon his return and Mike Acted like John was blaming him for John's incarceration. This is ALSO NOT NEW INFORMATION - but somehow This group seems to think since Mike has been through a hard Time of late we should pretend he doesn't have a problem. Mike isn't going to listen to me because I am strait with him AND NO ONE ELSE seems to be willing to or they somehow just Don't see the self destructive behavior right in front of their face. If you all think everything Mike does does not add up to a Big problem for HIM, or, you just don't get it, or you just don't Think it is your place to confront him with his self destructive Behavior -- well, folks, I don't know what to tell you, but I can't Do that to a friend. (Yes, I am sure Mike does not consider me A friend right now - but as far as I am concerned, I am the only One who is really relating to him as a friend). Oh, ya, you can tell yourselves what I have said is not friendly. Well, what I think is not friendly is seeing a brother in trouble and Being unwilling to deal with him about it. I am dumbfounded at people's reactions - do you think that just Because he could have had his hands cut off or been in prison for Years or even put to death that that means we should all pretend He didn't put himself in that position AFTER it was clearly explained To him by John Blennert that Oman was OUT TO GET HIM? - Going to a KINGDOM you HAVE BEEN TOLD is out to get you - Self medicating with serious prescription drugs - Being a business man who regularly bursts into ranting and Raving at potential customers and co-businessmen These are all serious self destructive behaviors. So, Greg, Jim And Eric, if you really give a damn about Mike's welfare Don't just say, Hooray! You got back safe THIS TIME., help him get the help he needs. Sincerely, Michael On 3/9/11 6:28 PM, Met. Eric Wichman Escondido e...@meteoritesusa.com wrote: You know... I've read some pretty F'd up things on list, but this one takes the F'ing cake Michael B. For crying out loud. Are you serious? I believe it's absolutely out of line considering the circumstance. I don't say much negative on list, and try to keep it down to a dull roar. But this time I can' help it... You've said some pretty hateful things Michael. This isn't even a bad joke... WTF? Regards, Eric On 3/9/2011 6:14 PM, Jim Strope wrote: Is this some kind of joke? BTWay, your post would have been easir to read if the punctuation and capitalization was presented properly.
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Hi Michael and all, Ive been on the list for about 3.5 years now and I remember very well some of Mikes lunatic rantings, so those of you who have been on the list longer than I have should also remember (and Ive been told that it was even worse before I was on the list). But, the only thing that I was unhappy about was when you (Michael) talked about Mikes medical issues. I understand that you wanted people to know WHY Michael is the way he is, but its not your decision to talk about that. Nobody should talk about someone elses medical situation in a forum like this. I work for a medical software company and we see tons of patient information all the time. If I were to mention something about a patient, I would be fined by the government and then fired (and I dont even work for the govt). We dont have to worry about that here on the list, but it just goes to show that the govt is serious about keeping private health information PRIVATE, so we all should do the same. Ive seen you have a few lunatic rantings over the years, too, so you might want to be careful (as Eric just mentioned in his last post). I didnt like it when some people wanted to cast their vote on whether Art should let Mike back on the list or not. We shouldnt pressure Art one way or another (so Im not going to vote on it) since he is the boss of this list. Hell do what he thinks is best for the list. BTW, Im glad Mike and Robert are safe now. I dont know either of them personally, but Im sure that they are good people and dont deserve to be locked up in a foreign country. Regards, Bob From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of Michael Blood Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2011 8:37 PM To: Met. Eric Wichman Escondido; Meteorite List Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Welcome Home Jim, Gary, Eric and all, No, it is NOT a joke. There is nothing funny about This situation at all. I stated NOTHING in my post Mike has is not born Out in Mike's own public statements. (though Jim informs Me it may have been a different prescription drug he gets Out of Mexico) - hell folks, where have you been? READ THE STINKING ARCHIVES. If you all really cared about Mike's welfare you would Be trying to support him in getting professional help, get on prescribed medication and get stabilized. You are all having knee jerk reactions. Think about it. If Mike were your brother wouldn't you want to see him get proper treatment? Mike is home safe - thank God. While he was in danger I Did everything possible I could to minimize any negative impact On him. The list started yammering about it and I pointed out we Needed to remain silent lest we make matters worse for Mike and Rob. John Blennert gave the talk before the auction and we agreed It should not be telecast, as John went through a very similar situation in Oman a couple of years ago and Omani officials offered him $235,000 to get Mike back on Omani territory (so they could Incarcerate him). John TOLD Mike this upon his return and Mike Acted like John was blaming him for John's incarceration. This is ALSO NOT NEW INFORMATION - but somehow This group seems to think since Mike has been through a hard Time of late we should pretend he doesn't have a problem. Mike isn't going to listen to me because I am strait with him AND NO ONE ELSE seems to be willing to or they somehow just Don't see the self destructive behavior right in front of their face. If you all think everything Mike does does not add up to a Big problem for HIM, or, you just don't get it, or you just don't Think it is your place to confront him with his self destructive Behavior -- well, folks, I don't know what to tell you, but I can't Do that to a friend. (Yes, I am sure Mike does not consider me A friend right now - but as far as I am concerned, I am the only One who is really relating to him as a friend). Oh, ya, you can tell yourselves what I have said is not friendly. Well, what I think is not friendly is seeing a brother in trouble and Being unwilling to deal with him about it. I am dumbfounded at people's reactions - do you think that just Because he could have had his hands cut off or been in prison for Years or even put to death that that means we should all pretend He didn't put himself in that position AFTER it was clearly explained To him by John Blennert that Oman was OUT TO GET HIM? - Going to a KINGDOM you HAVE BEEN TOLD is out to get you - Self medicating with serious prescription drugs - Being a business man who regularly bursts into ranting and Raving at potential customers and co-businessmen These are all serious self destructive behaviors. So, Greg, Jim And Eric, if you really give a damn about Mike's welfare Don't just say, Hooray! You got back safe THIS TIME.,
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Hi List. I had some time to kill and so I added 8 new pictures of recently acquired meteorites/items missing from my collection. Most are micro size but they are very interesting meteorites, some with a deep history and a few recent falls. You can view these added meteorite pictures by clicking or copy n paste the link into your address bar. This will take you to my About page. Scroll down the page to you see Slideshow The first 8 pictures are what I added. For those who have not visited my Collection Pictures on my Webpage, your in for a treat. There are lots of pics of some of the rarest meteorites on Earth and some neat other items in my collection. Enjoy! Here the link to my Webpage Slideshow. http://www.ctreasurescwonders.com/about_1.html Thank you. Sincerely Don Merchant Founder-Cosmic Treasures Celestial Wonders __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
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G'Day Bob and List Well said. Thank you Cheers John -Original Message- From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of Bob Loeffler Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2011 8:08 PM To: 'Meteorite List' Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Welcome Home Hi Michael and all, Ive been on the list for about 3.5 years now and I remember very well some of Mikes lunatic rantings, so those of you who have been on the list longer than I have should also remember (and Ive been told that it was even worse before I was on the list). But, the only thing that I was unhappy about was when you (Michael) talked about Mikes medical issues. I understand that you wanted people to know WHY Michael is the way he is, but its not your decision to talk about that. Nobody should talk about someone elses medical situation in a forum like this. I work for a medical software company and we see tons of patient information all the time. If I were to mention something about a patient, I would be fined by the government and then fired (and I dont even work for the govt). We dont have to worry about that here on the list, but it just goes to show that the govt is serious about keeping private health information PRIVATE, so we all should do the same. Ive seen you have a few lunatic rantings over the years, too, so you might want to be careful (as Eric just mentioned in his last post). I didnt like it when some people wanted to cast their vote on whether Art should let Mike back on the list or not. We shouldnt pressure Art one way or another (so Im not going to vote on it) since he is the boss of this list. Hell do what he thinks is best for the list. BTW, Im glad Mike and Robert are safe now. I dont know either of them personally, but Im sure that they are good people and dont deserve to be locked up in a foreign country. Regards, Bob From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of Michael Blood Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2011 8:37 PM To: Met. Eric Wichman Escondido; Meteorite List Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Welcome Home Jim, Gary, Eric and all, No, it is NOT a joke. There is nothing funny about This situation at all. I stated NOTHING in my post Mike has is not born Out in Mike's own public statements. (though Jim informs Me it may have been a different prescription drug he gets Out of Mexico) - hell folks, where have you been? READ THE STINKING ARCHIVES. If you all really cared about Mike's welfare you would Be trying to support him in getting professional help, get on prescribed medication and get stabilized. You are all having knee jerk reactions. Think about it. If Mike were your brother wouldn't you want to see him get proper treatment? Mike is home safe - thank God. While he was in danger I Did everything possible I could to minimize any negative impact On him. The list started yammering about it and I pointed out we Needed to remain silent lest we make matters worse for Mike and Rob. John Blennert gave the talk before the auction and we agreed It should not be telecast, as John went through a very similar situation in Oman a couple of years ago and Omani officials offered him $235,000 to get Mike back on Omani territory (so they could Incarcerate him). John TOLD Mike this upon his return and Mike Acted like John was blaming him for John's incarceration. This is ALSO NOT NEW INFORMATION - but somehow This group seems to think since Mike has been through a hard Time of late we should pretend he doesn't have a problem. Mike isn't going to listen to me because I am strait with him AND NO ONE ELSE seems to be willing to or they somehow just Don't see the self destructive behavior right in front of their face. If you all think everything Mike does does not add up to a Big problem for HIM, or, you just don't get it, or you just don't Think it is your place to confront him with his self destructive Behavior -- well, folks, I don't know what to tell you, but I can't Do that to a friend. (Yes, I am sure Mike does not consider me A friend right now - but as far as I am concerned, I am the only One who is really relating to him as a friend). Oh, ya, you can tell yourselves what I have said is not friendly. Well, what I think is not friendly is seeing a brother in trouble and Being unwilling to deal with him about it. I am dumbfounded at people's reactions - do you think that just Because he could have had his hands cut off or been in prison for Years or even put to death that that means we should all pretend He didn't put himself in that position AFTER it was clearly explained To him by John Blennert that Oman was OUT TO GET HIM? - Going to a KINGDOM you HAVE BEEN TOLD is out to get you - Self medicating with serious
[meteorite-list] Disclosure
Hi All, I'm all in favor of Art probationally allowing Mike to rejoin the MetList to tell his story. I honestly think nothing but good can come from allowing Mike and Robert to relate their experiences in Oman so that we can at least learn some anecdotal information about the legality of searching for meteorites in that country, and the potential consequences of doing so. There is no denying that John Blennert warned Mike of the unfavorable situation in Oman (of which John would certainly know). So I, for one, am quite curious to understand the reason why Mike ultimately decided it was worth risking continued travels there. In his defense, Mike has been to Oman countless times without incident, so I can see why he might poo-poo Blennert's warnings. And if the Omani government was so focused on detaining/encarcerating Mike, how is it that they failed to do so on the many visits that occurred subsequent to John's warning? Is the customs department that incompetent? It's not like Mike was travelling under an alias. Of course, most of this is water under the bridge since Mike and Robert ~were~ ultimately detained and jailed. But now that they are safely stateside, I would love to hear (read) their side of the story. What better place to read it than here? --Rob __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
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Don't put words in my mouth, Michael. Jim Strope Jim, Gary, Eric and all, No, it is NOT a joke. There is nothing funny about This situation at all. I stated NOTHING in my post Mike has is not born Out in Mike's own public statements. (though Jim informs Me it may have been a different prescription drug he gets Out of Mexico) - hell folks, where have you been? READ THE STINKING ARCHIVES. If you all really cared about Mike's welfare you would Be trying to support him in getting professional help, get on prescribed medication and get stabilized. You are all having knee jerk reactions. Think about it. If Mike were your brother wouldn't you want to see him get proper treatment? Mike is home safe - thank God. While he was in danger I Did everything possible I could to minimize any negative impact On him. The list started yammering about it and I pointed out we Needed to remain silent lest we make matters worse for Mike and Rob. John Blennert gave the talk before the auction and we agreed It should not be telecast, as John went through a very similar situation in Oman a couple of years ago and Omani officials offered him $235,000 to get Mike back on Omani territory (so they could Incarcerate him). John TOLD Mike this upon his return and Mike Acted like John was blaming him for John's incarceration. This is ALSO NOT NEW INFORMATION - but somehow This group seems to think since Mike has been through a hard Time of late we should pretend he doesn't have a problem. Mike isn't going to listen to me because I am strait with him AND NO ONE ELSE seems to be willing to or they somehow just Don't see the self destructive behavior right in front of their face. If you all think everything Mike does does not add up to a Big problem for HIM, or, you just don't get it, or you just don't Think it is your place to confront him with his self destructive Behavior -- well, folks, I don't know what to tell you, but I can't Do that to a friend. (Yes, I am sure Mike does not consider me A friend right now - but as far as I am concerned, I am the only One who is really relating to him as a friend). Oh, ya, you can tell yourselves what I have said is not friendly. Well, what I think is not friendly is seeing a brother in trouble and Being unwilling to deal with him about it. I am dumbfounded at people's reactions - do you think that just Because he could have had his hands cut off or been in prison for Years or even put to death that that means we should all pretend He didn't put himself in that position AFTER it was clearly explained To him by John Blennert that Oman was OUT TO GET HIM? - Going to a KINGDOM you HAVE BEEN TOLD is out to get you - Self medicating with serious prescription drugs - Being a business man who regularly bursts into ranting and Raving at potential customers and co-businessmen These are all serious self destructive behaviors. So, Greg, Jim And Eric, if you really give a damn about Mike's welfare Don't just say, Hooray! You got back safe THIS TIME., help him get the help he needs. Sincerely, Michael __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Welcome Home
I'm relatively new here, with maybe a new perspective? Seems to me all of this is relevent from the story meteorites tell us all, and then all the personalities and sometimes awkward positions of people who are involved, including the in-fighting. So far I've watched a few tussles and wonder...hmmm.all interesting, sometimes some make me cringe, some are petty, most all are worthy of the intellect I admire. I don't read everything here by a long-shot, but there is definitely a two headed thread-personality on this List ... meteorites, and then the stories that everyone is involved with. What a grand tapestry! (The delete button is right there, by the way)... - Original Message - From: John.L.Cabassi j...@cabassi.net To: 'Bob Loeffler' b...@peaktopeak.com; 'Meteorite List' meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2011 8:12 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Welcome Home G'Day Bob and List Well said. Thank you Cheers John -Original Message- From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of Bob Loeffler Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2011 8:08 PM To: 'Meteorite List' Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Welcome Home Hi Michael and all, I've been on the list for about 3.5 years now and I remember very well some of Mike's lunatic rantings, so those of you who have been on the list longer than I have should also remember (and I've been told that it was even worse before I was on the list). But, the only thing that I was unhappy about was when you (Michael) talked about Mike's medical issues. I understand that you wanted people to know WHY Michael is the way he is, but it's not your decision to talk about that. Nobody should talk about someone else's medical situation in a forum like this. I work for a medical software company and we see tons of patient information all the time. If I were to mention something about a patient, I would be fined by the government and then fired (and I don't even work for the gov't). We don't have to worry about that here on the list, but it just goes to show that the gov't is serious about keeping private health information PRIVATE, so we all should do the same. I've seen you have a few lunatic rantings over the years, too, so you might want to be careful (as Eric just mentioned in his last post). I didn't like it when some people wanted to cast their vote on whether Art should let Mike back on the list or not. We shouldn't pressure Art one way or another (so I'm not going to vote on it) since he is the boss of this list. He'll do what he thinks is best for the list. BTW, I'm glad Mike and Robert are safe now. I don't know either of them personally, but I'm sure that they are good people and don't deserve to be locked up in a foreign country. Regards, Bob From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of Michael Blood Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2011 8:37 PM To: Met. Eric Wichman Escondido; Meteorite List Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Welcome Home Jim, Gary, Eric and all, No, it is NOT a joke. There is nothing funny about This situation at all. I stated NOTHING in my post Mike has is not born Out in Mike's own public statements. (though Jim informs Me it may have been a different prescription drug he gets Out of Mexico) - hell folks, where have you been? READ THE STINKING ARCHIVES. If you all really cared about Mike's welfare you would Be trying to support him in getting professional help, get on prescribed medication and get stabilized. You are all having knee jerk reactions. Think about it. If Mike were your brother wouldn't you want to see him get proper treatment? Mike is home safe - thank God. While he was in danger I Did everything possible I could to minimize any negative impact On him. The list started yammering about it and I pointed out we Needed to remain silent lest we make matters worse for Mike and Rob. John Blennert gave the talk before the auction and we agreed It should not be telecast, as John went through a very similar situation in Oman a couple of years ago and Omani officials offered him $235,000 to get Mike back on Omani territory (so they could Incarcerate him). John TOLD Mike this upon his return and Mike Acted like John was blaming him for John's incarceration. This is ALSO NOT NEW INFORMATION - but somehow This group seems to think since Mike has been through a hard Time of late we should pretend he doesn't have a problem. Mike isn't going to listen to me because I am strait with him AND NO ONE ELSE seems to be willing to or they somehow just Don't see the self destructive behavior right in front of their face. If you all think everything Mike does does not add up to a Big problem for HIM, or, you just don't get it, or you just don't Think it is your place to confront him with his self destructive
Re: [meteorite-list] Disclosure
Mike F, if you can read these posts (?) why don't you consider writing a book instead ? I'm serious. I've never met you, although I've known of you for a whileseems like we'd all want to read it... :) - Original Message - From: Matson, Robert D. robert.d.mat...@saic.com To: Meteorite List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2011 8:16 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Disclosure Hi All, I'm all in favor of Art probationally allowing Mike to rejoin the MetList to tell his story. I honestly think nothing but good can come from allowing Mike and Robert to relate their experiences in Oman so that we can at least learn some anecdotal information about the legality of searching for meteorites in that country, and the potential consequences of doing so. There is no denying that John Blennert warned Mike of the unfavorable situation in Oman (of which John would certainly know). So I, for one, am quite curious to understand the reason why Mike ultimately decided it was worth risking continued travels there. In his defense, Mike has been to Oman countless times without incident, so I can see why he might poo-poo Blennert's warnings. And if the Omani government was so focused on detaining/encarcerating Mike, how is it that they failed to do so on the many visits that occurred subsequent to John's warning? Is the customs department that incompetent? It's not like Mike was travelling under an alias. Of course, most of this is water under the bridge since Mike and Robert ~were~ ultimately detained and jailed. But now that they are safely stateside, I would love to hear (read) their side of the story. What better place to read it than here? --Rob __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Where is all the Murchison???
That didn't make sense for a minute Mike...then it did There is, of course, more Murchison here. Can't believe I forgot. http://www.nakhladogmeteorites.com/catalog/murchtat.htm Rob Wesel www.nakhladogmeteorites.com www.facebook.com/Nakhla.Dog.Meteorites www.facebook.com/Rob.Wesel -- We are the music makers... and we are the dreamers of the dreams. Willy Wonka, 1971 -- From: Michael Gilmer meteoritem...@gmail.com Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2011 6:48 PM To: Richard Kowalski damoc...@yahoo.com Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Where is all the Murchison??? Hi List, Is there any such thing as a Murchison pea? I've never seen a tiny, complete, Murchison stone in the 1-4g range. Rob W. is the godfather of Murchison, I bet he would know. :) Best regards, MikeG -- Mike Gilmer - Galactic Stone Ironworks Meteorites Website - http://www.galactic-stone.com Facebook - http://www.facebook.com/galacticstone News Feed - http://www.galactic-stone.com/rss/126516 Twitter - http://twitter.com/galacticstone EOM - http://www.encyclopedia-of-meteorites.com/collection.aspx?id=1564 --- On 3/9/11, Richard Kowalski damoc...@yahoo.com wrote: Apparently there is quiet a bit or Murchison around and available, but in sizes that are beyond the means of many budget minded collectors. No doubt why I haven't had a chance to see them before. I guess I'm a little surprised with so much apparent demand for 1 - 2 gram slices that no one seems to be cutting. I don't blame ya though. If I had individuals in these sizes, I wouldn't be too interested in cutting them up either. Cheers -- Richard Kowalski Full Moon Photography IMCA #1081 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list -- __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1204 / Virus Database: 1497/3495 - Release Date: 03/09/11 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Where is all the Murchison???
Now THAT is a serious collector! You wear it well dog. gary On Mar 9, 2011, at 6:39 PM, Rob Wesel wrote: That didn't make sense for a minute Mike...then it did There is, of course, more Murchison here. Can't believe I forgot. http://www.nakhladogmeteorites.com/catalog/murchtat.htm Rob Wesel www.nakhladogmeteorites.com www.facebook.com/Nakhla.Dog.Meteorites www.facebook.com/Rob.Wesel -- We are the music makers... and we are the dreamers of the dreams. Willy Wonka, 1971 -- From: Michael Gilmer meteoritem...@gmail.com Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2011 6:48 PM To: Richard Kowalski damoc...@yahoo.com Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Where is all the Murchison??? Hi List, Is there any such thing as a Murchison pea? I've never seen a tiny, complete, Murchison stone in the 1-4g range. Rob W. is the godfather of Murchison, I bet he would know. :) Best regards, MikeG -- Mike Gilmer - Galactic Stone Ironworks Meteorites Website - http://www.galactic-stone.com Facebook - http://www.facebook.com/galacticstone News Feed - http://www.galactic-stone.com/rss/126516 Twitter - http://twitter.com/galacticstone EOM - http://www.encyclopedia-of-meteorites.com/collection.aspx?id=1564 --- On 3/9/11, Richard Kowalski damoc...@yahoo.com wrote: Apparently there is quiet a bit or Murchison around and available, but in sizes that are beyond the means of many budget minded collectors. No doubt why I haven't had a chance to see them before. I guess I'm a little surprised with so much apparent demand for 1 - 2 gram slices that no one seems to be cutting. I don't blame ya though. If I had individuals in these sizes, I wouldn't be too interested in cutting them up either. Cheers -- Richard Kowalski Full Moon Photography IMCA #1081 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list -- __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1204 / Virus Database: 1497/3495 - Release Date: 03/09/11 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list Gary Fujihara Big Kahuna Meteorites (IMCA#1693) 105 Puhili Place, Hilo, Hawai'i 96720 http://bigkahuna-meteorites.com/ http://shop.ebay.com/fujmon/m.html (808) 640-9161 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Where is all the Murchison???
Now that's serious being serious! Very creative Rob! On Wed, Mar 9, 2011 at 11:39 PM, Rob Wesel nakhla...@comcast.net wrote: That didn't make sense for a minute Mike...then it did There is, of course, more Murchison here. Can't believe I forgot. http://www.nakhladogmeteorites.com/catalog/murchtat.htm Rob Wesel www.nakhladogmeteorites.com www.facebook.com/Nakhla.Dog.Meteorites www.facebook.com/Rob.Wesel -- We are the music makers... and we are the dreamers of the dreams. Willy Wonka, 1971 -- From: Michael Gilmer meteoritem...@gmail.com Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2011 6:48 PM To: Richard Kowalski damoc...@yahoo.com Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Where is all the Murchison??? Hi List, Is there any such thing as a Murchison pea? I've never seen a tiny, complete, Murchison stone in the 1-4g range. Rob W. is the godfather of Murchison, I bet he would know. :) Best regards, MikeG -- Mike Gilmer - Galactic Stone Ironworks Meteorites Website - http://www.galactic-stone.com Facebook - http://www.facebook.com/galacticstone News Feed - http://www.galactic-stone.com/rss/126516 Twitter - http://twitter.com/galacticstone EOM - http://www.encyclopedia-of-meteorites.com/collection.aspx?id=1564 --- On 3/9/11, Richard Kowalski damoc...@yahoo.com wrote: Apparently there is quiet a bit or Murchison around and available, but in sizes that are beyond the means of many budget minded collectors. No doubt why I haven't had a chance to see them before. I guess I'm a little surprised with so much apparent demand for 1 - 2 gram slices that no one seems to be cutting. I don't blame ya though. If I had individuals in these sizes, I wouldn't be too interested in cutting them up either. Cheers -- Richard Kowalski Full Moon Photography IMCA #1081 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list -- __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1204 / Virus Database: 1497/3495 - Release Date: 03/09/11 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list -- Felipe __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Disclosure
I concur... Let Mike back on the list. This is THE BEST forum for this topic. Eric On 3/9/2011 8:16 PM, Matson, Robert D. wrote: Hi All, I'm all in favor of Art probationally allowing Mike to rejoin the MetList to tell his story. I honestly think nothing but good can come from allowing Mike and Robert to relate their experiences in Oman so that we can at least learn some anecdotal information about the legality of searching for meteorites in that country, and the potential consequences of doing so. There is no denying that John Blennert warned Mike of the unfavorable situation in Oman (of which John would certainly know). So I, for one, am quite curious to understand the reason why Mike ultimately decided it was worth risking continued travels there. In his defense, Mike has been to Oman countless times without incident, so I can see why he might poo-poo Blennert's warnings. And if the Omani government was so focused on detaining/encarcerating Mike, how is it that they failed to do so on the many visits that occurred subsequent to John's warning? Is the customs department that incompetent? It's not like Mike was travelling under an alias. Of course, most of this is water under the bridge since Mike and Robert ~were~ ultimately detained and jailed. But now that they are safely stateside, I would love to hear (read) their side of the story. What better place to read it than here? --Rob __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Another Odd Item on Ebay
My first impression was marcasite which tends to form spheres such as this but, it isn't known for iridescence . It can't be hematite nor magnetite. Elton - Original Message From: Ed Deckert edeck...@triad.rr.com To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Wed, March 9, 2011 6:47:39 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Another Odd Item on Ebay The photos are out of focus or too dark, so it could be anything. __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Disclosure
Robert, Fine suggestion. My posts are and have been moderated since last April so I can assure you moderated mode works. I'm sure I'm not the only one in limbo. The system is already in place so what's the harm? Bill Date: Wed, 9 Mar 2011 20:16:38 -0800 From: robert.d.mat...@saic.com To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] Disclosure Hi All, I'm all in favor of Art probationally allowing Mike to rejoin the MetList to tell his story. I honestly think nothing but good can come from allowing Mike and Robert to relate their experiences in Oman so that we can at least learn some anecdotal information about the legality of searching for meteorites in that country, and the potential consequences of doing so. There is no denying that John Blennert warned Mike of the unfavorable situation in Oman (of which John would certainly know). So I, for one, am quite curious to understand the reason why Mike ultimately decided it was worth risking continued travels there. In his defense, Mike has been to Oman countless times without incident, so I can see why he might poo-poo Blennert's warnings. And if the Omani government was so focused on detaining/encarcerating Mike, how is it that they failed to do so on the many visits that occurred subsequent to John's warning? Is the customs department that incompetent? It's not like Mike was travelling under an alias. Of course, most of this is water under the bridge since Mike and Robert ~were~ ultimately detained and jailed. But now that they are safely stateside, I would love to hear (read) their side of the story. What better place to read it than here? --Rob __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] General List Policies/ rules
hello all, first i want to say that this is good news that two big hunters are home with there family,and enjoying life again,very happy to har this fantastic news after spending two month in a bad dream, segond i think that the list rules must improve and change to better rules, that can keep this list more polit and that we can make it international with a big audiance,and more members, one thing rules are important. 1= no one has the right to publicly attack an other one, this is the limit of the democracy you can attack a person opinion but not the person himself as an entire entite, you do not agree with X or Y adea but do not attack him, this two difrent things 2= private life and personnal matter must not be on the list we discuss stones we have to leave the rest out of the list, 3= if we have meteorite as a passion we have also other bissuness and other friend and family anyone googling your name will find all the private fight on the list and will take you as that, as he is not in the context, and all the post on the list are in the archives and will stay forever so we must think to protect our reputation for now and the futur,like usinf other id in the list so if i m out of the list and i read MB post i will think to many bad things ambiguites,so indirectly even if you want to help MF you are with good or bad well destroying his reputation ,personnal matter must stay out:you do not have the right: absolutely not everyone has his own problem , but never , i say never, no one has the right to attack anyone you can argue adea or opinion but never a private or a confidence or a personal issue must not be public, no one is immune against problems, life is full of surprise but do not bring that to the list; on other hand a civilised and polit debat are always welcome; i do not see also why a man hurt an other what are the goals, you think this will help, the matter to stop someone from the list or let him back must be a democratic issue discusion between art and a team voted by list member to manage the list and helping art to take a wise decision my 1.dirhams __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Welcome home
I had a long talk with Mike today. It was pretty deep and very interesting. I don't think that he would mind me relaying that he said this experience has given him a new perspective on essentially everything.I think we will see a difference in how Mike reacts to especially the little things in life. Best, Robert Woolard Sent from my iPhone __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Welcome Home
I've had some hot disagreements with Mike Farmer in the past, as have others here on the List, but I think we should back off and cut him a break here. I'm just happy that he and Robert are safe. I look forward to hearing what happened in Oman. Greg Lindh From: gmh...@centurylink.net To: mlbl...@cox.net; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Wed, 9 Mar 2011 22:58:01 -0500 Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Welcome Home Hi Michael, With all due respect, if you really want to help Mike, don't you think you could do it in a little better fashion? If not, don't you think it is pretty low to cut him so badly the day after he returns home? I am friends with both of you and wouldn't want either one of you talking like this. Best Regards, Greg Greg Hupe The Hupe Collection gmh...@centurylink.net www.LunarRock.com IMCA 3163 -Original Message- From: Michael Blood Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2011 10:36 PM To: Met. Eric Wichman Escondido ; Meteorite List Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Welcome Home Jim, Gary, Eric and all, No, it is NOT a joke. There is nothing funny about This situation at all. I stated NOTHING in my post Mike has is not born Out in Mike's own public statements. (though Jim informs Me it may have been a different prescription drug he gets Out of Mexico) - hell folks, where have you been? READ THE STINKING ARCHIVES. If you all really cared about Mike's welfare you would Be trying to support him in getting professional help, get on prescribed medication and get stabilized. You are all having knee jerk reactions. Think about it. If Mike were your brother wouldn't you want to see him get proper treatment? Mike is home safe - thank God. While he was in danger I Did everything possible I could to minimize any negative impact On him. The list started yammering about it and I pointed out we Needed to remain silent lest we make matters worse for Mike and Rob. John Blennert gave the talk before the auction and we agreed It should not be telecast, as John went through a very similar situation in Oman a couple of years ago and Omani officials offered him $235,000 to get Mike back on Omani territory (so they could Incarcerate him). John TOLD Mike this upon his return and Mike Acted like John was blaming him for John's incarceration. This is ALSO NOT NEW INFORMATION - but somehow This group seems to think since Mike has been through a hard Time of late we should pretend he doesn't have a problem. Mike isn't going to listen to me because I am strait with him AND NO ONE ELSE seems to be willing to or they somehow just Don't see the self destructive behavior right in front of their face. If you all think everything Mike does does not add up to a Big problem for HIM, or, you just don't get it, or you just don't Think it is your place to confront him with his self destructive Behavior -- well, folks, I don't know what to tell you, but I can't Do that to a friend. (Yes, I am sure Mike does not consider me A friend right now - but as far as I am concerned, I am the only One who is really relating to him as a friend). Oh, ya, you can tell yourselves what I have said is not friendly. Well, what I think is not friendly is seeing a brother in trouble and Being unwilling to deal with him about it. I am dumbfounded at people's reactions - do you think that just Because he could have had his hands cut off or been in prison for Years or even put to death that that means we should all pretend He didn't put himself in that position AFTER it was clearly explained To him by John Blennert that Oman was OUT TO GET HIM? - Going to a KINGDOM you HAVE BEEN TOLD is out to get you - Self medicating with serious prescription drugs - Being a business man who regularly bursts into ranting and Raving at potential customers and co-businessmen These are all serious self destructive behaviors. So, Greg, Jim And Eric, if you really give a damn about Mike's welfare Don't just say, Hooray! You got back safe THIS TIME., help him get the help he needs. Sincerely, Michael On 3/9/11 6:28 PM, Met. Eric Wichman Escondido e...@meteoritesusa.com wrote: You know... I've read some pretty F'd up things on list, but this one takes the F'ing cake Michael B. For crying out loud. Are you serious? I believe it's absolutely out of line considering the circumstance. I don't say much negative on list, and try to keep it down to a dull roar. But this time I can' help it... You've said some pretty hateful things Michael. This isn't even a bad joke... WTF? Regards, Eric On 3/9/2011 6:14 PM, Jim Strope wrote: Is this some kind of joke? BTWay, your post would have been easir to read if the punctuation and capitalization was presented properly. Jim Strope 421 Fourth Street Glen Dale, WV 26038