[meteorite-list] meteorite or not?

2011-07-13 Thread Dan Furlan
I'm not 100% sure but i don't think this item on ebay is a meteorite
120738890611

link to item:

http://cgi.ebay.ca/2-6LB-Original-Iron-Meteorite-Specimen-China-/120738890611?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0hash=item1c1c994373
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[meteorite-list] test

2011-07-13 Thread michael cottingham

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[meteorite-list] AD: Weds/13th - Auctions End and Begin Today! Great Deals!

2011-07-13 Thread michael cottingham
Hello,

I have 22 auctions that end today-throughout the day AND I have 60 auctions 
starting at 5 pm Mountain! Please check in and see what is ending and beginning 
this week. Some of today's ending auctions are Excellent Deals! 


ALL SALE ITEMS HERE:

http://stores.ebay.com/voyage-botanica-natural-history

ALL AUCTIONS HERE:

http://shop.ebay.com:80/merchant/meteorite-collector_W0QQLHQ5fAuctionZ1QQ


Thanks and Best Wishes

Michael Cottingham
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[meteorite-list] AD: Weds/13th - Auctions End and Begin Today! Great Deals!

2011-07-13 Thread michael cottingham
Hello,

I have 22 auctions that end today-throughout the day AND I have 60 auctions 
starting at 5 pm Mountain! Please check in and see what is ending and beginning 
this week. Some of today's ending auctions are Excellent Deals! 


ALL SALE ITEMS HERE:

http://stores.ebay.com/voyage-botanica-natural-history

ALL AUCTIONS HERE:

http://shop.ebay.com:80/merchant/meteorite-collector_W0QQLHQ5fAuctionZ1QQ


Thanks and Best Wishes

Michael Cottingham
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[meteorite-list] AD eBay auction, Tamdakht big, Ghubara, ureilite ..

2011-07-13 Thread Tomasz Jakubowski
Dear List Members,
I put 4 auctions on eBay :
http://shop.ebay.com/meteoritepoland/m.html?_trksid=p4340.l2562

Tamdakht (big a fresh specimen), big ureilite slice, great Ghubara huge slice 
(with nice texture) and NWA xxx specimen. All pieces can be seen on bigger 
photos and Videos (link on auction).

Thanks for looking



All the best
Tomasz Jakubowski
IMCA  #2321


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Re: [meteorite-list] meteorite or not?

2011-07-13 Thread Göran Axelsson
Definitely no meteorite. Just compare the size with the weight. It is 
too light to be solid iron, it's just a bit of iron oxide and iron 
hydroxide concretion at best.


1x0.9x0.4 dm = 0.36 dm3
1.160/0.36 = 3.2 kg/dm3

Iron nickel meteorites have a density close to 8 so it's way off in density.

/Göran

Dan Furlan skrev 2011-07-13 08:05:

I'm not 100% sure but i don't think this item on ebay is a meteorite
120738890611

link to item:

http://cgi.ebay.ca/2-6LB-Original-Iron-Meteorite-Specimen-China-/120738890611?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0hash=item1c1c994373
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[meteorite-list] AD: NWA 6716 - new IIE iron recrystallized

2011-07-13 Thread Mirko Graul
Dear List Members,

here are my new NWA iron - NWA 6716.
It is a very interesting and double recrystallized IIE iron.
All slices are sold very fast in the German Meteorite Forum.
Now i have also cut the last piece. (the flat endcut)
And so are for sale now the both last available pieces.
The inside of the iron shows a coarse grained recrystallized matrix of heat in 
space.
The fine recrystallized areas are a result of heat by fall on earth.
A very fine and absolutely interesting iron!
The both endcuts shows a very very thick reheated rim with more than 2cm !!
Very interesting also are the very rare silicate inclusions.

Here are the Link to the Meteoritical Bulletin entry:

http://www.lpi.usra.edu/meteor/metbull.php?code=53804

and here are the Link to the last both available pieces:

http://cgi.ebay.com/Meteorite-NWA-6716-Iron-IIE-perfect-etched-endcut-10-0g-/370526674660?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0hash=item56451c5ee4

http://cgi.ebay.com/Meteorite-NWA-6716-Iron-IIE-perfect-etched-endcut-19-1g-/230646716280?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0hash=item35b39d9778


Best regards Mirko 


Mirko Graul Meteorite 
Quittenring.4 
16321 Bernau 
GERMANY 

Phone: 0049-1724105015 
E-Mail: m_gr...@yahoo.de 
WEB: www.meteorite-mirko.de 

Member of The Meteoritical Society 
(International Society for Meteoritics and Planetery Science) 

IMCA-Member: 2113 
(International Meteorite Collectors Association)
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[meteorite-list] In Memoriam: Tom Gehrels, 1925-2011

2011-07-13 Thread Bernd V. Pauli
Ted Bunch kindly wrote:

Sad to see Tom go! We did some good things together.

Here's one example from the monumental book I cited:

Aqueous activity on asteroids: Evidence from carbonaceous
meteorites [by J.F. Kerridge, T.E. Bunch in Tom Gehrels (1979)
Asteroids (The University of Arizona Press, pp. 745-764)].

Best wishes,

Bernd


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[meteorite-list] Johnstown, Bjurbole, NWA 6704, other Auctions Ending... AD

2011-07-13 Thread Greg Hupé

Dear List Members,

Later tonight I have a number of Outstanding and Historic eBay auctions 
ending. Included with these is a great selection of polished slices of NWA 
6704, a 'Most Intriguing' Ungrouped Achondrite. I also have links to NWA 
6704 specimens that are not on eBay that I have listed below this eBay list, 
please take a look.


Auctions ending tonight in order of offering:
* NWA 6704 ~ A Most Intriguing Ungrouped Achondrite
* Seymchan Pallasite Sphere 62mm (Awesome)
* Johnstown ~ Large Part Slice - Gorgeous and hard to get!
* Bjurböle w/ Large 7mm chondrule protruding from the edge (Historic Fall)
* DaG 400 Lunar Slice w/ Huge Clast (So Beautiful!)
* Zagami Martian Slice (Nice Size)
* Muchison Carbonaceous - (Very hard to get now)
* Libyan Desert Glass Spheres  Eggs (Very Nice Size Assortment)

Click here for my current eBay auctions by seller NaturesVault
http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZnaturesvault

Thank you for looking and bidding if you are interested!
Greg

Here is the list of available NWA 6704 specimens with IMCA and Met-List 
Member 1cm Hupe’ scale cube offer:


NWA 6704 Ungrouped Achondrite
Available Specimens as of this email (Updated 7-12-2011):

33.5g slice
76mm x 65mm x 3mm
http://www.lunarrock.com/NWA6704/slices_frags/Group3/img_0001.jpg

20.5g slice
90mm x 35mm x 3mm
http://www.lunarrock.com/NWA6704/slices_frags/Group3/img_0002.jpg

22.7g end cut
38mm x 31mm x 7mm
http://www.lunarrock.com/NWA6704/slices_frags/Group3/img_0003.jpg

11.43g slice
41mm x 36mm x 3mm
http://www.lunarrock.com/NWA6704/slices_frags/Group3/img_0004.jpg

9.11g slice
35mm x 32mm x 3mm
http://www.lunarrock.com/NWA6704/slices_frags/Group3/img_0005.jpg

8.86g slice
39mm x 34mm x 2mm
http://www.lunarrock.com/NWA6704/slices_frags/Group3/img_0006.jpg

8.66g slice
40mm x 30mm x 2.5mm
http://www.lunarrock.com/NWA6704/slices_frags/Group3/img_0007.jpg

8.4g slice
37mm x 32mm x 2mm
http://www.lunarrock.com/NWA6704/slices_frags/Group3/img_0008.jpg

8.15g slice
40mm x 31mm x 2mm
http://www.lunarrock.com/NWA6704/slices_frags/Group3/img_0009.jpg

7.99g slice
40mm x 35mm x 2mm
http://www.lunarrock.com/NWA6704/slices_frags/Group3/img_0010.jpg

7.85g slice
52mm x 29mm x 2mm
http://www.lunarrock.com/NWA6704/slices_frags/Group3/img_0011.jpg

7.5g slice
38mm x 37mm x 2mm
http://www.lunarrock.com/NWA6704/slices_frags/Group3/img_0012.jpg

7.36g slice
30mm x 29mm x 3mm
http://www.lunarrock.com/NWA6704/slices_frags/Group3/img_0013.jpg

7.10g slice
45mm x 27mm x 2.5mm
http://www.lunarrock.com/NWA6704/slices_frags/Group3/img_0014.jpg

7.07g slice
34mm x 33mm x 2mm
http://www.lunarrock.com/NWA6704/slices_frags/Group3/img_0015.jpg

7.05g slice
38mm x 30mm x 2mm
http://www.lunarrock.com/NWA6704/slices_frags/Group3/img_0016.jpg

6.99g slice
34mm x 33mm x 2mm
http://www.lunarrock.com/NWA6704/slices_frags/Group3/img_0017.jpg

6.824g slice
39mm x 30mm x 2mm
http://www.lunarrock.com/NWA6704/slices_frags/Group3/img_0018.jpg

6.52g slice
38mm x 33mm x 2mm
http://www.lunarrock.com/NWA6704/slices_frags/Group3/img_0019.jpg

6.3g slice
34mm x 31mm x 1.5mm
http://www.lunarrock.com/NWA6704/slices_frags/Group3/img_0020.jpg

6.08g slice
35mm x 31mm x 2mm
http://www.lunarrock.com/NWA6704/slices_frags/Group3/img_0021.jpg

5.99g slice
37mm x 31mm x 2mm
http://www.lunarrock.com/NWA6704/slices_frags/Group3/img_0022.jpg

5.97g slice
34mm x 34mm x 1.5mm
http://www.lunarrock.com/NWA6704/slices_frags/Group3/img_0023.jpg

5.73g slice
34mm x 32mm x 1.5mm
http://www.lunarrock.com/NWA6704/slices_frags/Group3/img_0024.jpg

5.58g slice
35mm x 25mm x 2mm
http://www.lunarrock.com/NWA6704/slices_frags/Group3/img_0025.jpg

5.5g slice
33mm x 31mm x 1.5mm
http://www.lunarrock.com/NWA6704/slices_frags/Group3/img_0026.jpg

5.46g slice
40mm x 27mm x 2mm
http://www.lunarrock.com/NWA6704/slices_frags/Group3/img_0027.jpg

5.26g slice
30mm x 27mm x 2mm
http://www.lunarrock.com/NWA6704/slices_frags/Group3/img_0028.jpg

5.14g slice
30mm x 28mm x 2mm
http://www.lunarrock.com/NWA6704/slices_frags/Group3/img_0029.jpg

5.05g slice
33mm x 30mm x 2mm
http://www.lunarrock.com/NWA6704/slices_frags/Group3/img_0030.jpg

4.97g slice
31mm x 28mm x 2mm
http://www.lunarrock.com/NWA6704/slices_frags/Group3/img_0031.jpg

4.89g slice
31mm x 27mm x 2mm
http://www.lunarrock.com/NWA6704/slices_frags/Group3/img_0032.jpg

4.742g slice
29mm x 27mm x 2mm
http://www.lunarrock.com/NWA6704/slices_frags/Group3/img_0033.jpg

4.66g slice
31mm x 26mm x 2mm
http://www.lunarrock.com/NWA6704/slices_frags/Group3/img_0034.jpg

4.32g slice
29mm x 24mm x 2mm
http://www.lunarrock.com/NWA6704/slices_frags/Group3/img_0035.jpg

31.2g polished end cut
42mm x 25mm x 20mm
http://www.lunarrock.com/NWA6704/slices_frags/Group3/img_0036.jpg

23.2g polished end cut
30mm x 24mm x 22mm
http://www.lunarrock.com/NWA6704/slices_frags/Group3/img_0037.jpg

4.206g end cut with crust (not polished)
16mm x 15mm x 5mm
http://www.lunarrock.com/NWA6704/slices_frags/Group3/img_0038.jpg

18.92g (This slice is the only one that has been 

Re: [meteorite-list] meteorite or not?

2011-07-13 Thread Galactic Stone Ironworks
Hi Dan and List,

I see a ton of these on eBay and they have been there for years.  They
are obvious meteorwrongs and look more like river rock than
meteorites.  For eBay to allow these sellers to operate in their venue
shows that eBay does not care about the integrity of it's marketplace.
 It's so bad, I refuse to consider bidding on anything on eBay that
originates in the Far East.  If the seller is in Thailand, China,
Vietnam, or anywhere else in that part of the world, I won't touch it
- I don't care how good it looks.

Caveat emptor applies to every possible sale, but even more so on eBay.

Sellers who continue to offer these bogus specimens and knowingly rip
people off, should be banned from eBay at the very least.  Or, better
yet, we should fill an extra-large tube sock with these fake rocks and
pummel the sellers into a coma with them.

Best regards,

MikeG

PS - if anyone wants any meteorites like the one on eBay that
started this discussion, go check your local railroad tracks - there
are thousands of them laying on the ground for free.

-- 
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On 7/13/11, Dan Furlan danfur...@gmail.com wrote:
 I'm not 100% sure but i don't think this item on ebay is a meteorite
 120738890611

 link to item:

 http://cgi.ebay.ca/2-6LB-Original-Iron-Meteorite-Specimen-China-/120738890611?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0hash=item1c1c994373
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Re: [meteorite-list] AD eBay auction, Tamdakht big, Ghubara, ureilite ..

2011-07-13 Thread actionshooting
Those are some awesome pieces!
--
Stuart McDaniel
Lawndale, NC 
IMCA#9052

http://www.facebook.com/Stuart.McDaniel.No.1

 Tomasz Jakubowski illae...@wp.pl wrote: 

=
Dear List Members,
I put 4 auctions on eBay :
http://shop.ebay.com/meteoritepoland/m.html?_trksid=p4340.l2562

Tamdakht (big a fresh specimen), big ureilite slice, great Ghubara huge slice 
(with nice texture) and NWA xxx specimen. All pieces can be seen on bigger 
photos and Videos (link on auction).

Thanks for looking



All the best
Tomasz Jakubowski
IMCA  #2321


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Re: [meteorite-list] meteorite or not?

2011-07-13 Thread m42protosun
Hi list, 
when I started collecting meteorites I had bought such item fron an IMCA member 
as NANTAN. The reality is that it is Mekong River Iron . The simple 
negative  Ni-Test shows that it  contain not yet more than 0.1 ppm Ni 
metal, a MUST of iron containing meteorites.
m42protosun

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Subject: [meteorite-list] meteorite or not?
Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2011 08:05:33 +0200
From: Dan Furlan danfur...@gmail.com
To: met-list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com

I'm not 100% sure but i don't think this item on ebay is a meteorite
120738890611

link to item:

http://cgi.ebay.ca/2-6LB-Original-Iron-Meteorite-Specimen-China-/120738890611?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0hash=item1c1c994373
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[meteorite-list] Important - Please Read

2011-07-13 Thread jason utas
Hello All,
Many of you know that a man named John/Bryan Scarborough was recently
removed from the IMCA for selling meteorites that were analytically
proven to be misrepresented.  If you've never heard this before,
please see the list archives:

http://www.mail-archive.com/meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com/msg98693.html

What you might not know is that I personally took responsibility for
(dis)proving the authenticity of his sales after noticing that much of
what he was selling looked funny -- starting back in January 2010.
Ultimately, a number of samples were sent directly from people who had
purchased them from John/Bryan to a lab for analysis, and, as the
above emails details, an Ash Creek turned out to be an H-chondrite,
a fragment of Zunhua turned out to be indistinguishable from
Tamdakht (Zunhua is an L-chondrite, not an H), and an iron that he'd
been selling as Deport turned out to be what is most likely a Campo
del Cielo.

His explanations of how these mistakes had occurred were extremely
dissatisfying; the IMCA board apparently thought as much, because the
opted to remove him from the membership.

The trouble is that someone, apparently, told him that I did much of
the investigative work.  How do I know this?  Jeff Kuyken, on the IMCA
board of directors, just informed me that John/Bryan has changed his
ebay username to meteoritekid, my old internet alias.

My ebay username is *not* meteoritekid.  Please do not buy from
anyone using the name meteoritekid on ebay.  John/Bryan is
attempting to impersonate me online in order to get back at me for
having tracked his shady dealings down.

I would not personally trust the authenticity of any specimen he sells.

I am currently taking a geology field mapping course in Montana and do
not have a working phone.  When I return home in a few days, I will be
pursuing this matter with ebay.  If that does not work, I will pursue
it legally.  If anyone on here has experience with similar issues
within ebay, I'd like whatever help I can get.

- Do not buy from the ebay seller meteoritekid.  It is not me, and
John/Bryan has proven that he is willing to sell a wide variety of
material that is misrepresented.

Thank You,
Jason

[IMCA 6730]
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Re: [meteorite-list] meteorite or not?

2011-07-13 Thread meteoriteguy.com
Just another rock.

Sent from my iPhone

On Jul 12, 2011, at 11:05 PM, Dan Furlan danfur...@gmail.com wrote:

 I'm not 100% sure but i don't think this item on ebay is a meteorite
 120738890611
 
 link to item:
 
 http://cgi.ebay.ca/2-6LB-Original-Iron-Meteorite-Specimen-China-/120738890611?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0hash=item1c1c994373
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[meteorite-list] A Cosmic Catastrophe: The Great Clovis Comet Debate

2011-07-13 Thread Paul H.
Holliday, V. T., 2011, A Cosmic Catastrophe: The Great Clovis 
Comet Debate: A personal perspective on an Outrageous Hypothesis.
Department of Anthropology at the University of Arizona.
http://www.argonaut.arizona.edu/Clovis_Comet_Debate.html

Yours,

Paul H.
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Re: [meteorite-list] [IMCA] Important - Please Read

2011-07-13 Thread actionshooting
I just looked at several of his auctions and it seems he has removed the IMCA 
reference but it is funny, some of the ones he is selling were purchased THIS 
September. Have I slept through Sept or something??

--
Stuart McDaniel
Lawndale, NC 
IMCA#9052

http://www.facebook.com/Stuart.McDaniel.No.1

 Ken Newton ken.i...@gmail.com wrote: 

=
Jason and Board Members,

Jason, that is a slap in the face, thanks for the heads up.

Board,  Mr Scarborough is still using his IMCA number in at least one ebay
auction (IMCA member 6135. ):

http://cgi.ebay.com/270752039514

I only checked two of his very many auctions.  (You can have ebay shut down
auctions of persons pretending to be members)

http://members.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewUserPageuserid=meteoritecollectorsorg

Best,
Ken

On Wed, Jul 13, 2011 at 9:45 AM, jason utas jasonu...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hello All,
 Many of you know that a man named John/Bryan Scarborough was recently
 removed from the IMCA for selling meteorites that were analytically
 proven to be misrepresented.  If you've never heard this before,
 please see the list archives:


 http://www.mail-archive.com/meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com/msg98693.html

 What you might not know is that I personally took responsibility for
 (dis)proving the authenticity of his sales after noticing that much of
 what he was selling looked funny -- starting back in January 2010.
 Ultimately, a number of samples were sent directly from people who had
 purchased them from John/Bryan to a lab for analysis, and, as the
 above emails details, an Ash Creek turned out to be an H-chondrite,
 a fragment of Zunhua turned out to be indistinguishable from
 Tamdakht (Zunhua is an L-chondrite, not an H), and an iron that he'd
 been selling as Deport turned out to be what is most likely a Campo
 del Cielo.

 His explanations of how these mistakes had occurred were extremely
 dissatisfying; the IMCA board apparently thought as much, because the
 opted to remove him from the membership.

 The trouble is that someone, apparently, told him that I did much of
 the investigative work.  How do I know this?  Jeff Kuyken, on the IMCA
 board of directors, just informed me that John/Bryan has changed his
 ebay username to meteoritekid, my old internet alias.

 My ebay username is *not* meteoritekid.  Please do not buy from
 anyone using the name meteoritekid on ebay.  John/Bryan is
 attempting to impersonate me online in order to get back at me for
 having tracked his shady dealings down.

 I would not personally trust the authenticity of any specimen he sells.

 I am currently taking a geology field mapping course in Montana and do
 not have a working phone.  When I return home in a few days, I will be
 pursuing this matter with ebay.  If that does not work, I will pursue
 it legally.  If anyone on here has experience with similar issues
 within ebay, I'd like whatever help I can get.

 - Do not buy from the ebay seller meteoritekid.  It is not me, and
 John/Bryan has proven that he is willing to sell a wide variety of
 material that is misrepresented.

 Thank You,
 Jason

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Re: [meteorite-list] [IMCA] Important - Please Read

2011-07-13 Thread Abe Enochs




-Original Message-
From: actionshooting actionshoot...@carolina.rr.com
To: jason utas jasonu...@gmail.com; Ken Newton ken.i...@gmail.com
Cc: Meteorite-list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com; imca 
i...@imcamail.de

Sent: Wed, Jul 13, 2011 10:14 am
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] [IMCA] Important - Please Read


I just looked at several of his auctions and it seems he has removed 
the IMCA
reference but it is funny, some of the ones he is selling were 
purchased THIS

September. Have I slept through Sept or something??

--
Stuart McDaniel
Lawndale, NC
IMCA#9052

http://www.facebook.com/Stuart.McDaniel.No.1

 Ken Newton ken.i...@gmail.com wrote:

=
Jason and Board Members,

Jason, that is a slap in the face, thanks for the heads up.

Board,  Mr Scarborough is still using his IMCA number in at least one 
ebay

auction (IMCA member 6135. ):

http://cgi.ebay.com/270752039514

I only checked two of his very many auctions.  (You can have ebay shut 
down

auctions of persons pretending to be members)

http://members.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewUserPageuserid=meteoritecollectorsorg

Best,
Ken

On Wed, Jul 13, 2011 at 9:45 AM, jason utas jasonu...@gmail.com wrote:


Hello All,
Many of you know that a man named John/Bryan Scarborough was recently
removed from the IMCA for selling meteorites that were analytically
proven to be misrepresented.  If you've never heard this before,
please see the list archives:




http://www.mail-archive.com/meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com/msg98693.html


What you might not know is that I personally took responsibility for
(dis)proving the authenticity of his sales after noticing that much of
what he was selling looked funny -- starting back in January 2010.
Ultimately, a number of samples were sent directly from people who had
purchased them from John/Bryan to a lab for analysis, and, as the
above emails details, an Ash Creek turned out to be an H-chondrite,
a fragment of Zunhua turned out to be indistinguishable from
Tamdakht (Zunhua is an L-chondrite, not an H), and an iron that he'd
been selling as Deport turned out to be what is most likely a Campo
del Cielo.

His explanations of how these mistakes had occurred were extremely
dissatisfying; the IMCA board apparently thought as much, because the
opted to remove him from the membership.

The trouble is that someone, apparently, told him that I did much of
the investigative work.  How do I know this?  Jeff Kuyken, on the IMCA
board of directors, just informed me that John/Bryan has changed his
ebay username to meteoritekid, my old internet alias.

My ebay username is *not* meteoritekid.  Please do not buy from
anyone using the name meteoritekid on ebay.  John/Bryan is
attempting to impersonate me online in order to get back at me for
having tracked his shady dealings down.

I would not personally trust the authenticity of any specimen he 

sells.


I am currently taking a geology field mapping course in Montana and do
not have a working phone.  When I return home in a few days, I will be
pursuing this matter with ebay.  If that does not work, I will pursue
it legally.  If anyone on here has experience with similar issues
within ebay, I'd like whatever help I can get.

- Do not buy from the ebay seller meteoritekid.  It is not me, and
John/Bryan has proven that he is willing to sell a wide variety of
material that is misrepresented.

Thank You,
Jason

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Re: [meteorite-list] A Cosmic Catastrophe: The Great Clovis Comet Debate

2011-07-13 Thread Chris Peterson
The archaeological, paleontological, geological, and astronomical data 
supporting the notion of a significant Pleistocene impact are very thin, 
and getting thinner all the time.


Certainly, the consensus viewpoint is that there was no impact. Of 
course, that doesn't mean that reputable scientists aren't still looking 
at the hypothesis, but they represent a small minority of the scientists 
with an interest in this area.


Chris

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On 7/13/2011 10:49 AM, Galactic Stone  Ironworks wrote:

Hi Paul and List,

I am going to read this entire article tonight when I get the free
time.  In the meantime, I am curious about the alleged Clovis event.
I have heard about it and the debate surrounding it, but I don't know
what the general consensus is amongst the scientists who have looked
into this.

So, what is the consensus on the Clovis event?  Was it a meteorite or comet?

Best regards,

MikeG

PS - thanks for all the interesting links to scientific papers and articles!


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[meteorite-list] AD: Ebay auctions of rare US falls/finds

2011-07-13 Thread Sergey Vasiliev
Hello List,

I have a few ebay auctions ending on Saturday.

Check all my items:
http://shop.ebay.com/svassiliev/m.html?_trksid=p4340.l2562

Don't miss them while weekend and bid now!

Thanks and all the best from Prague,
Sergey

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Re: [meteorite-list] meteorite or not?

2011-07-13 Thread Jonathan E. Dongell

M22protosun,
Did the same thing when I began collecting. Bought several, sold as:
iron/nickel meterites : ^ (
Question. How did you track the source to Mekong River?
Jonathan
ICMA 3922


- Original Message - 
From: m42protosun m42proto...@t-online.de

To: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2011 6:25 AM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] meteorite or not?



Hi list,
when I started collecting meteorites I had bought such item fron an IMCA 
member as NANTAN. The reality is that it is Mekong River Iron . The 
simple negative  Ni-Test shows that it  contain not yet more than 0.1 
ppm Ni metal, a MUST of iron containing meteorites.

m42protosun

-Original-Nachricht-
Subject: [meteorite-list] meteorite or not?
Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2011 08:05:33 +0200
From: Dan Furlan danfur...@gmail.com
To: met-list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com

I'm not 100% sure but i don't think this item on ebay is a meteorite
120738890611

link to item:

http://cgi.ebay.ca/2-6LB-Original-Iron-Meteorite-Specimen-China-/120738890611?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0hash=item1c1c994373
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Re: [meteorite-list] meteorite or not?

2011-07-13 Thread Richard Montgomery

JonathanI think one paddles upstream.

:))


- Original Message - 
From: Jonathan E. Dongell jdong...@cox.net

To: m42proto...@t-online.de; Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2011 5:21 PM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] meteorite or not?



M22protosun,
Did the same thing when I began collecting. Bought several, sold as:
iron/nickel meterites : ^ (
Question. How did you track the source to Mekong River?
Jonathan
ICMA 3922


- Original Message - 
From: m42protosun m42proto...@t-online.de

To: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2011 6:25 AM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] meteorite or not?



Hi list,
when I started collecting meteorites I had bought such item fron an IMCA 
member as NANTAN. The reality is that it is Mekong River Iron . The 
simple negative  Ni-Test shows that it  contain not yet more than 0.1 
ppm Ni metal, a MUST of iron containing meteorites.

m42protosun

-Original-Nachricht-
Subject: [meteorite-list] meteorite or not?
Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2011 08:05:33 +0200
From: Dan Furlan danfur...@gmail.com
To: met-list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com

I'm not 100% sure but i don't think this item on ebay is a meteorite
120738890611

link to item:

http://cgi.ebay.ca/2-6LB-Original-Iron-Meteorite-Specimen-China-/120738890611?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0hash=item1c1c994373
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[meteorite-list] meteorite or not?

2011-07-13 Thread JoshuaTreeMuseum


Richard, 


Good one!

I thought most of the Mekong Delta material was hematite.

Phil Whitmer



JonathanI think one paddles upstream. 



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Re: [meteorite-list] meteorite or not?

2011-07-13 Thread Jonathan E. Dongell

Guess I should have Googled it.


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To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2011 5:40 PM
Subject: [meteorite-list] meteorite or not?




Richard,
Good one!

I thought most of the Mekong Delta material was hematite.

Phil Whitmer



JonathanI think one paddles upstream.

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Re: [meteorite-list] meteorite-list] meteorite or not?

2011-07-13 Thread Tom Randall (KB2SMS)


  I just twittered Be careful who you buy meteorites from on eBay  
people. Lots of scams out there.  Check the meteorite list.  
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Re: [meteorite-list] meteorite or not?

2011-07-13 Thread Jim Wooddell
Good evening all!

Here is the response I received from this person selling the rock...

Thank you for your information,It is an iron meteorite,I bought from
other seller who said like this also,We haven't done any tests about
it.But it is not rock.Many thanks.

- crystal-sphere9
-

FYI

Jim Wooddell








On Wed, Jul 13, 2011 at 5:32 PM, Richard Montgomery
rickm...@earthlink.net wrote:
 JonathanI think one paddles upstream.

 :))


 - Original Message - From: Jonathan E. Dongell jdong...@cox.net
 To: m42proto...@t-online.de; Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
 Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2011 5:21 PM
 Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] meteorite or not?


 M22protosun,
 Did the same thing when I began collecting. Bought several, sold as:
 iron/nickel meterites : ^ (
 Question. How did you track the source to Mekong River?
 Jonathan
 ICMA 3922


 - Original Message - From: m42protosun m42proto...@t-online.de
 To: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
 Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2011 6:25 AM
 Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] meteorite or not?


 Hi list,
 when I started collecting meteorites I had bought such item fron an IMCA
 member as NANTAN. The reality is that it is Mekong River Iron . The
 simple negative  Ni-Test shows that it  contain not yet more than 0.1
 ppm Ni metal, a MUST of iron containing meteorites.
 m42protosun

 -Original-Nachricht-
 Subject: [meteorite-list] meteorite or not?
 Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2011 08:05:33 +0200
 From: Dan Furlan danfur...@gmail.com
 To: met-list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com

 I'm not 100% sure but i don't think this item on ebay is a meteorite
 120738890611

 link to item:


 http://cgi.ebay.ca/2-6LB-Original-Iron-Meteorite-Specimen-China-/120738890611?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0hash=item1c1c994373
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Re: [meteorite-list] meteorite or not?

2011-07-13 Thread Galactic Stone Ironworks
 Thank you for your information,It is an iron meteorite,I bought from
 other seller who said like this also,We haven't done any tests about
 it.But it is not rock.Many thanks.

Translation -

Thank you for peeing into the wind.  I don't care what you say or how
much you know about meteorites.  We don't care to do any tests,
because they will confirm that our specimens are bogus.  Many thanks.

Any person with an ounce of experience and has done their homework can
take one look at these specimens and discern that they are not
meteorites.  A blind man could make that determination from looking at
the photos.

Sadly, sellers like this prey on newbies, trusting folk, and people
shopping for big bargains.  And they will continue to do so until the
proverbial cows come home.  eBay will not put a stop to these auctions
and the rest of us are powerless to stop them also.

Best regards,

MikeG

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-


On 7/13/11, Jim Wooddell jimwoodd...@gmail.com wrote:
 Good evening all!

 Here is the response I received from this person selling the rock...
 
 Thank you for your information,It is an iron meteorite,I bought from
 other seller who said like this also,We haven't done any tests about
 it.But it is not rock.Many thanks.

 - crystal-sphere9
 -

 FYI

 Jim Wooddell








 On Wed, Jul 13, 2011 at 5:32 PM, Richard Montgomery
 rickm...@earthlink.net wrote:
 JonathanI think one paddles upstream.

 :))


 - Original Message - From: Jonathan E. Dongell
 jdong...@cox.net
 To: m42proto...@t-online.de; Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
 Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2011 5:21 PM
 Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] meteorite or not?


 M22protosun,
 Did the same thing when I began collecting. Bought several, sold as:
 iron/nickel meterites : ^ (
 Question. How did you track the source to Mekong River?
 Jonathan
 ICMA 3922


 - Original Message - From: m42protosun
 m42proto...@t-online.de
 To: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
 Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2011 6:25 AM
 Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] meteorite or not?


 Hi list,
 when I started collecting meteorites I had bought such item fron an IMCA
 member as NANTAN. The reality is that it is Mekong River Iron . The
 simple negative  Ni-Test shows that it  contain not yet more than
 0.1
 ppm Ni metal, a MUST of iron containing meteorites.
 m42protosun

 -Original-Nachricht-
 Subject: [meteorite-list] meteorite or not?
 Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2011 08:05:33 +0200
 From: Dan Furlan danfur...@gmail.com
 To: met-list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com

 I'm not 100% sure but i don't think this item on ebay is a meteorite
 120738890611

 link to item:


 http://cgi.ebay.ca/2-6LB-Original-Iron-Meteorite-Specimen-China-/120738890611?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0hash=item1c1c994373
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Re: [meteorite-list] meteorite or not?

2011-07-13 Thread John.L.Cabassi
Perfect Translation Mike :-)

-Original Message-
From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com
[mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of
Galactic Stone  Ironworks
Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2011 7:16 PM
To: Jim Wooddell
Cc: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] meteorite or not?


 Thank you for your information,It is an iron meteorite,I bought from 
 other seller who said like this also,We haven't done any tests about 
 it.But it is not rock.Many thanks.

Translation -

Thank you for peeing into the wind.  I don't care what you say or how
much you know about meteorites.  We don't care to do any tests, because
they will confirm that our specimens are bogus.  Many thanks.

Any person with an ounce of experience and has done their homework can
take one look at these specimens and discern that they are not
meteorites.  A blind man could make that determination from looking at
the photos.

Sadly, sellers like this prey on newbies, trusting folk, and people
shopping for big bargains.  And they will continue to do so until the
proverbial cows come home.  eBay will not put a stop to these auctions
and the rest of us are powerless to stop them also.

Best regards,

MikeG

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On 7/13/11, Jim Wooddell jimwoodd...@gmail.com wrote:
 Good evening all!

 Here is the response I received from this person selling the rock...
 
 Thank you for your information,It is an iron meteorite,I bought from 
 other seller who said like this also,We haven't done any tests about 
 it.But it is not rock.Many thanks.

 - crystal-sphere9
 -

 FYI

 Jim Wooddell








 On Wed, Jul 13, 2011 at 5:32 PM, Richard Montgomery 
 rickm...@earthlink.net wrote:
 JonathanI think one paddles upstream.

 :))


 - Original Message - From: Jonathan E. Dongell 
 jdong...@cox.net
 To: m42proto...@t-online.de; Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
 Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2011 5:21 PM
 Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] meteorite or not?


 M22protosun,
 Did the same thing when I began collecting. Bought several, sold as:

 iron/nickel meterites : ^ ( Question. How did you track 
 the source to Mekong River? Jonathan
 ICMA 3922


 - Original Message - From: m42protosun 
 m42proto...@t-online.de
 To: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
 Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2011 6:25 AM
 Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] meteorite or not?


 Hi list,
 when I started collecting meteorites I had bought such item fron an

 IMCA member as NANTAN. The reality is that it is Mekong River 
 Iron . The simple negative  Ni-Test shows that it  contain not yet

 more than 0.1 ppm Ni metal, a MUST of iron containing 
 meteorites. m42protosun

 -Original-Nachricht-
 Subject: [meteorite-list] meteorite or not?
 Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2011 08:05:33 +0200
 From: Dan Furlan danfur...@gmail.com
 To: met-list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com

 I'm not 100% sure but i don't think this item on ebay is a 
 meteorite 120738890611

 link to item:


 http://cgi.ebay.ca/2-6LB-Original-Iron-Meteorite-Specimen-China-/12
 0738890611?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0hash=item1c1c994373
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[meteorite-list] AD - NWAxxxx meteorite fragments and more - sale

2011-07-13 Thread Melanie Matthews
Hi Listers, 

CV3 1 - 122.9 g. 
CV3 2 - 58.4 g. 
^^both with CAIs showing. 

LL7 metachondrite - 84.5 

Whitecourt - 9.45 g. in as-found condition; with export paper and ID card from 
Big Kahuna Meteorites 


Two Park Forest Riker displays - one Garza the other Winslow Street Hammer 
Collection. take both if you wish. 

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Four micromounts of : 
NWA 4734 Lunar with Lunar image displays (like the ones by Greg Catterton); $14 
each. 

Allen Hills 76009 L6 chondrite; $5 each 
NWA 1877 Olivine Diogenite ; $7 each 

Eight mounts really cool NWA LL4. 

16.4 g. Gold Basin slice in display case - includes info card from Moritz Karl. 


Please contact me offlist for questions, pricing/offers (for ones without 
listed 
prices) and photos. no trades in this 

offer.  need to sell fast. 


Thanks 

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-Melanie MetMel - avid meteorite collector/enthusiast from Canada! 
IMCA#: 2975
eBay: metmel2775


I eat, sleep and breath meteorites 24/7.
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[meteorite-list] Attn GPS users

2011-07-13 Thread Mark Bowling
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Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Threat to GPS users


LightSquared and GPS
 
This should be of concern to all geocachers.
 
http://www.pnt.gov/interference/lightsquared/
 
 

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Re: [meteorite-list] A Cosmic Catastrophe: The Great Clovis Comet Debate

2011-07-13 Thread Rich Murray
What fascinates me is that with a thousand curious, adventurous people
on this list, hardly anyone is following up the remarkable ground
study leads provided by Cox, Barretto, and Murray, or pondering the
implications of the Mark Boslough supercomputer simulations at Sandia
Lab of directed blasts resulting from air bursts a few km above the
ground.

America -- scoured from sea to shining sea --  so much strange
evidence everywhere, everyone's just taken it for granted as normal...
go out and see for yourself!

Much can be done with Google Earth, Google Maps, and NASA WorldWind --
look around your own area -- I'll be happy to provide local leads.

I suggest you ask me on this list, and I'll provide my leads quickly,
as science is a picnic best shared publicly

Louisiana is a tough one, Paul, due to the sea level rise since 13 Ka,
heavy rains, thick vegetation, coastal tsunamis, but note the huge
underwater debris dumps far south deep in the Gulf, and, I bet, the
fractal collection of coastal lakes has never actually been adequately
explained.

I'll see what specific candidates I will find for you in Louisiana...

Rich Murray
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