Re: [meteorite-list] Does anyone recognize this specimen?

2016-09-17 Thread Michael Farmer via Meteorite-list
You said that a geochemist work extensive experience in studying meteorites 
said it was a eucrite. I said it wasn't and you implied that someone far 
superior to me thought otherwise. 
What kind of moronic games are you playing? 
Either it has been studied or it hasn't.  Make up your mind. Learn about 
meteorites because that isn't one. 





Michael Farmer

> On Sep 17, 2016, at 5:18 PM, Bigjohn Shea  wrote:
> 
> Is that what I said?  Or is that what you read?
> Go reread my response...
> 
> 
> 
> Sent using the mail.com mail app
> 
>> On 9/17/16 at 7:13 PM, Michael Farmer wrote:
>> 
>> But you just said a geochemist with extensive meteorite study credentials 
>> has already studied and classified it. I take it that statement was a lie. 
>> Thanks for clarifying. 
>> 
>> Michael Farmer
>> 
>>> On Sep 17, 2016, at 5:09 PM, Bigjohn Shea via Meteorite-list 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I don't want to prove you wrong.  I never asked for your opinion if this 
>>> was a meteorite.  It hasn't been studied yet, and it's not up to you or me 
>>> to decide in this scenario whether or not it will be studied.
>>> 
>>> End of conversation...
>>> 
>>> Have a good night.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent using the mail.com mail app
>>> 
 On 9/17/16 at 6:50 PM, Michael Farmer wrote:
 
 So, who classified it? What's the classification? Sounds fishy to me if 
 you won't name names. 
 Doesn't look at all like a meteorite. I stand by that. Doesn't mean I'm 
 right, so prove me wrong with facts. 
 
 Michael Farmer
 
> On Sep 17, 2016, at 4:46 PM, Bigjohn Shea via Meteorite-list 
>  wrote:
> 
> I'll be sure to let the PHD level Geochemist with decades worth of 
> experience classifying meteorites know that...
> 
> Really I'm only asking if anyone recognizes it from a recent sale.  The 
> lab was given a specific story and like diligent scientists they are 
> trying to disprove it.
> 
> If anyone has seen it for sale recently please let me know.
> Thank you,
> John
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Sent using the mail.com mail app
> 
>> On 9/17/16 at 10:13 AM, Michael Farmer wrote:
>> 
>> Not even close to being a meteorite. 
>> 
>> Michael Farmer
>> 
>>> On Sep 17, 2016, at 8:36 AM, Bigjohn Shea via Meteorite-list 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Mendy,
>>> I'm not going to comment on whether I think it is or is not a 
>>> meteorite.  There are professionals working on it and they will better 
>>> determine that than these photos alone will.
>>> But, I appreciate your insights as usual.
>>> Hope business is going good.  :-)
>>> Cheers,
>>> John 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent using the mail.com mail app
>>> 
 On 9/17/16 at 8:18 AM, Gmail wrote:
 
 Well, the way you phrased the request makes it tough to fulfill 
 because best I can tell on my iPhone, this is terrestrial.
 
 Mendy Ouzillou
 
 On Sep 17, 2016, at 6:11 AM, Bigjohn Shea via Meteorite-list 
  wrote:
 
 Dear List,
 Hope you are all doing well this weekend.
 
 For reasons I will not get into right now, I have been asked to reach 
 out to the meteorite community and see if anyone recognizes this 
 specimen from a recent sale.
 
 Here is a link to some photos:
 
 https://www.dropbox.com/sh/z1wuakhrxa7s8uy/AABaOdwIdfLfstsBklRyNTVra?dl=0
 
 This relates to a possible misrepresentation of a specimen, and a 
 friend of mine in the meteorite community has asked that I try to seek 
 out other opinions regarding the origin of this specimen.
 
 Bear in mind, I am not asking for help on potential classification, 
 nor am I asking if it is or is not a meteorite. 
 
 Please contact me off list if you recognize this specimen and can 
 share information related to a recent sale/transaction concerning it.
 
 Thank you very much for your time and consideration!
 
 Cheers,
 John A. Shea, MD
 IMCA 3295
 
 
 
 Sent using the mail.com mail app
 __
 
 Visit our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/meteoritecentral and 
 the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com
 Meteorite-list mailing list
 Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
 https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
>>> __
>>> 
>>> Visit our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/meteoritecentral and 
>>> 

Re: [meteorite-list] Does anyone recognize this specimen?

2016-09-17 Thread Michael Farmer via Meteorite-list


But you just said a geochemist with extensive meteorite study credentials has 
already studied and classified it. I take it that statement was a lie. Thanks 
for clarifying. 

Michael Farmer

> On Sep 17, 2016, at 5:09 PM, Bigjohn Shea via Meteorite-list 
>  wrote:
> 
> I don't want to prove you wrong.  I never asked for your opinion if this was 
> a meteorite.  It hasn't been studied yet, and it's not up to you or me to 
> decide in this scenario whether or not it will be studied.
> 
> End of conversation...
> 
> Have a good night.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Sent using the mail.com mail app
> 
>> On 9/17/16 at 6:50 PM, Michael Farmer wrote:
>> 
>> So, who classified it? What's the classification? Sounds fishy to me if you 
>> won't name names. 
>> Doesn't look at all like a meteorite. I stand by that. Doesn't mean I'm 
>> right, so prove me wrong with facts. 
>> 
>> Michael Farmer
>> 
>>> On Sep 17, 2016, at 4:46 PM, Bigjohn Shea via Meteorite-list 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I'll be sure to let the PHD level Geochemist with decades worth of 
>>> experience classifying meteorites know that...
>>> 
>>> Really I'm only asking if anyone recognizes it from a recent sale.  The lab 
>>> was given a specific story and like diligent scientists they are trying to 
>>> disprove it.
>>> 
>>> If anyone has seen it for sale recently please let me know.
>>> Thank you,
>>> John
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent using the mail.com mail app
>>> 
 On 9/17/16 at 10:13 AM, Michael Farmer wrote:
 
 Not even close to being a meteorite. 
 
 Michael Farmer
 
> On Sep 17, 2016, at 8:36 AM, Bigjohn Shea via Meteorite-list 
>  wrote:
> 
> Mendy,
> I'm not going to comment on whether I think it is or is not a meteorite.  
> There are professionals working on it and they will better determine that 
> than these photos alone will.
> But, I appreciate your insights as usual.
> Hope business is going good.  :-)
> Cheers,
> John 
> 
> 
> 
> Sent using the mail.com mail app
> 
>> On 9/17/16 at 8:18 AM, Gmail wrote:
>> 
>> Well, the way you phrased the request makes it tough to fulfill because 
>> best I can tell on my iPhone, this is terrestrial.
>> 
>> Mendy Ouzillou
>> 
>> On Sep 17, 2016, at 6:11 AM, Bigjohn Shea via Meteorite-list 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Dear List,
>> Hope you are all doing well this weekend.
>> 
>> For reasons I will not get into right now, I have been asked to reach 
>> out to the meteorite community and see if anyone recognizes this 
>> specimen from a recent sale.
>> 
>> Here is a link to some photos:
>> 
>> https://www.dropbox.com/sh/z1wuakhrxa7s8uy/AABaOdwIdfLfstsBklRyNTVra?dl=0
>> 
>> This relates to a possible misrepresentation of a specimen, and a friend 
>> of mine in the meteorite community has asked that I try to seek out 
>> other opinions regarding the origin of this specimen.
>> 
>> Bear in mind, I am not asking for help on potential classification, nor 
>> am I asking if it is or is not a meteorite. 
>> 
>> Please contact me off list if you recognize this specimen and can share 
>> information related to a recent sale/transaction concerning it.
>> 
>> Thank you very much for your time and consideration!
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> John A. Shea, MD
>> IMCA 3295
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Sent using the mail.com mail app
>> __
>> 
>> Visit our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/meteoritecentral and 
>> the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com
>> Meteorite-list mailing list
>> Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
>> https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
> __
> 
> Visit our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/meteoritecentral and the 
> Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com
> Meteorite-list mailing list
> Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
> https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
>>> __
>>> 
>>> Visit our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/meteoritecentral and the 
>>> Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com
>>> Meteorite-list mailing list
>>> Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
>>> https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
> __
> 
> Visit our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/meteoritecentral and the 
> Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com
> Meteorite-list mailing list
> Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
> https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list

Re: [meteorite-list] Does anyone recognize this specimen?

2016-09-17 Thread Michael Farmer via Meteorite-list
Just look at the second photo. Looks like a river pebble with such odd surface 
and fracture. 
Sorry, I wouldn't pay a nickel for it with those photos. 

Michael Farmer

> On Sep 17, 2016, at 4:46 PM, Bigjohn Shea via Meteorite-list 
>  wrote:
> 
> I'll be sure to let the PHD level Geochemist with decades worth of experience 
> classifying meteorites know that...
> 
> Really I'm only asking if anyone recognizes it from a recent sale.  The lab 
> was given a specific story and like diligent scientists they are trying to 
> disprove it.
> 
> If anyone has seen it for sale recently please let me know.
> Thank you,
> John
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Sent using the mail.com mail app
> 
>> On 9/17/16 at 10:13 AM, Michael Farmer wrote:
>> 
>> Not even close to being a meteorite. 
>> 
>> Michael Farmer
>> 
>>> On Sep 17, 2016, at 8:36 AM, Bigjohn Shea via Meteorite-list 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Mendy,
>>> I'm not going to comment on whether I think it is or is not a meteorite.  
>>> There are professionals working on it and they will better determine that 
>>> than these photos alone will.
>>> But, I appreciate your insights as usual.
>>> Hope business is going good.  :-)
>>> Cheers,
>>> John 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent using the mail.com mail app
>>> 
 On 9/17/16 at 8:18 AM, Gmail wrote:
 
 Well, the way you phrased the request makes it tough to fulfill because 
 best I can tell on my iPhone, this is terrestrial.
 
 Mendy Ouzillou
 
 On Sep 17, 2016, at 6:11 AM, Bigjohn Shea via Meteorite-list 
  wrote:
 
 Dear List,
 Hope you are all doing well this weekend.
 
 For reasons I will not get into right now, I have been asked to reach out 
 to the meteorite community and see if anyone recognizes this specimen from 
 a recent sale.
 
 Here is a link to some photos:
 
 https://www.dropbox.com/sh/z1wuakhrxa7s8uy/AABaOdwIdfLfstsBklRyNTVra?dl=0
 
 This relates to a possible misrepresentation of a specimen, and a friend 
 of mine in the meteorite community has asked that I try to seek out other 
 opinions regarding the origin of this specimen.
 
 Bear in mind, I am not asking for help on potential classification, nor am 
 I asking if it is or is not a meteorite. 
 
 Please contact me off list if you recognize this specimen and can share 
 information related to a recent sale/transaction concerning it.
 
 Thank you very much for your time and consideration!
 
 Cheers,
 John A. Shea, MD
 IMCA 3295
 
 
 
 Sent using the mail.com mail app
 __
 
 Visit our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/meteoritecentral and the 
 Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com
 Meteorite-list mailing list
 Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
 https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
>>> __
>>> 
>>> Visit our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/meteoritecentral and the 
>>> Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com
>>> Meteorite-list mailing list
>>> Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
>>> https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
> __
> 
> Visit our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/meteoritecentral and the 
> Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com
> Meteorite-list mailing list
> Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
> https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
__

Visit our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/meteoritecentral and the 
Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com
Meteorite-list mailing list
Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list


Re: [meteorite-list] Does anyone recognize this specimen?

2016-09-17 Thread Michael Farmer via Meteorite-list
So, who classified it? What's the classification? Sounds fishy to me if you 
won't name names. 
Doesn't look at all like a meteorite. I stand by that. Doesn't mean I'm right, 
so prove me wrong with facts. 

Michael Farmer

> On Sep 17, 2016, at 4:46 PM, Bigjohn Shea via Meteorite-list 
>  wrote:
> 
> I'll be sure to let the PHD level Geochemist with decades worth of experience 
> classifying meteorites know that...
> 
> Really I'm only asking if anyone recognizes it from a recent sale.  The lab 
> was given a specific story and like diligent scientists they are trying to 
> disprove it.
> 
> If anyone has seen it for sale recently please let me know.
> Thank you,
> John
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Sent using the mail.com mail app
> 
>> On 9/17/16 at 10:13 AM, Michael Farmer wrote:
>> 
>> Not even close to being a meteorite. 
>> 
>> Michael Farmer
>> 
>>> On Sep 17, 2016, at 8:36 AM, Bigjohn Shea via Meteorite-list 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Mendy,
>>> I'm not going to comment on whether I think it is or is not a meteorite.  
>>> There are professionals working on it and they will better determine that 
>>> than these photos alone will.
>>> But, I appreciate your insights as usual.
>>> Hope business is going good.  :-)
>>> Cheers,
>>> John 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent using the mail.com mail app
>>> 
 On 9/17/16 at 8:18 AM, Gmail wrote:
 
 Well, the way you phrased the request makes it tough to fulfill because 
 best I can tell on my iPhone, this is terrestrial.
 
 Mendy Ouzillou
 
 On Sep 17, 2016, at 6:11 AM, Bigjohn Shea via Meteorite-list 
  wrote:
 
 Dear List,
 Hope you are all doing well this weekend.
 
 For reasons I will not get into right now, I have been asked to reach out 
 to the meteorite community and see if anyone recognizes this specimen from 
 a recent sale.
 
 Here is a link to some photos:
 
 https://www.dropbox.com/sh/z1wuakhrxa7s8uy/AABaOdwIdfLfstsBklRyNTVra?dl=0
 
 This relates to a possible misrepresentation of a specimen, and a friend 
 of mine in the meteorite community has asked that I try to seek out other 
 opinions regarding the origin of this specimen.
 
 Bear in mind, I am not asking for help on potential classification, nor am 
 I asking if it is or is not a meteorite. 
 
 Please contact me off list if you recognize this specimen and can share 
 information related to a recent sale/transaction concerning it.
 
 Thank you very much for your time and consideration!
 
 Cheers,
 John A. Shea, MD
 IMCA 3295
 
 
 
 Sent using the mail.com mail app
 __
 
 Visit our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/meteoritecentral and the 
 Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com
 Meteorite-list mailing list
 Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
 https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
>>> __
>>> 
>>> Visit our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/meteoritecentral and the 
>>> Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com
>>> Meteorite-list mailing list
>>> Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
>>> https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
> __
> 
> Visit our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/meteoritecentral and the 
> Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com
> Meteorite-list mailing list
> Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
> https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
__

Visit our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/meteoritecentral and the 
Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com
Meteorite-list mailing list
Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list


Re: [meteorite-list] Another ebay faker

2016-09-17 Thread mckinney trammell via Meteorite-list
gotta link?


  From: Daniel Noyes via Meteorite-list 

 To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com 
 Sent: Friday, September 16, 2016 2:43 PM
 Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Another ebay faker
   
It never ceases to amaze...the audacity to make such false claims.

Ebay listing:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Moon-Rock-/191970680938?hash=item2cb258206a:g:6WcAAOSwNRdX2Lqo

Hope you all have a great Autumn!
Daniel

Daniel Noyes
Genuine Moon & Mars Meteorite Rocks
i...@moonmarsrocks.com
www.moonmarsrocks.com
IMCA #6830



__

Visit our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/meteoritecentral and the 
Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com
Meteorite-list mailing list
Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list


   __

Visit our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/meteoritecentral and the 
Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com
Meteorite-list mailing list
Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list


Re: [meteorite-list] Does anyone recognize this specimen?

2016-09-17 Thread Michael Farmer via Meteorite-list
Not even close to being a meteorite. 

Michael Farmer

> On Sep 17, 2016, at 8:36 AM, Bigjohn Shea via Meteorite-list 
>  wrote:
> 
> Mendy,
> I'm not going to comment on whether I think it is or is not a meteorite.  
> There are professionals working on it and they will better determine that 
> than these photos alone will.
> But, I appreciate your insights as usual.
> Hope business is going good.  :-)
> Cheers,
> John 
> 
> 
> 
> Sent using the mail.com mail app
> 
>> On 9/17/16 at 8:18 AM, Gmail wrote:
>> 
>> Well, the way you phrased the request makes it tough to fulfill because best 
>> I can tell on my iPhone, this is terrestrial.
>> 
>> Mendy Ouzillou
>> 
>> On Sep 17, 2016, at 6:11 AM, Bigjohn Shea via Meteorite-list 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Dear List,
>> Hope you are all doing well this weekend.
>> 
>> For reasons I will not get into right now, I have been asked to reach out to 
>> the meteorite community and see if anyone recognizes this specimen from a 
>> recent sale.
>> 
>> Here is a link to some photos:
>> 
>> https://www.dropbox.com/sh/z1wuakhrxa7s8uy/AABaOdwIdfLfstsBklRyNTVra?dl=0
>> 
>> This relates to a possible misrepresentation of a specimen, and a friend of 
>> mine in the meteorite community has asked that I try to seek out other 
>> opinions regarding the origin of this specimen.
>> 
>> Bear in mind, I am not asking for help on potential classification, nor am I 
>> asking if it is or is not a meteorite. 
>> 
>> Please contact me off list if you recognize this specimen and can share 
>> information related to a recent sale/transaction concerning it.
>> 
>> Thank you very much for your time and consideration!
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> John A. Shea, MD
>> IMCA 3295
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Sent using the mail.com mail app
>> __
>> 
>> Visit our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/meteoritecentral and the 
>> Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com
>> Meteorite-list mailing list
>> Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
>> https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
> __
> 
> Visit our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/meteoritecentral and the 
> Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com
> Meteorite-list mailing list
> Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
> https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
__

Visit our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/meteoritecentral and the 
Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com
Meteorite-list mailing list
Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list


[meteorite-list] AD-spectacular iron museum size and other items

2016-09-17 Thread meteoritesnwa--- via Meteorite-list
Dear list members I hope everybody doing well . I have a nice regmaglybte iron 
with 2 deep impression  fresh the weight 98,2kg Also a fresh lunar 50% crusted 
complet piece  uniq not paired  . Please contact me off list if you are 
interested for price and pictures Have a nice week end Regards __

Visit our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/meteoritecentral and the 
Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com
Meteorite-list mailing list
Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list


Re: [meteorite-list] Does anyone recognize this specimen?

2016-09-17 Thread Gmail via Meteorite-list
John, I certainly do not recognize it and have already provided my thoughts, 
but can you provide any details? When was it sold, where, was it part of a lot 
or an individual, is this a stone from Morocco or an US find? Added info might 
trigger people to remember ...

Mendy Ouzillou

On Sep 17, 2016, at 6:09 PM, Bigjohn Shea via Meteorite-list 
 wrote:

I don't want to prove you wrong.  I never asked for your opinion if this was a 
meteorite.  It hasn't been studied yet, and it's not up to you or me to decide 
in this scenario whether or not it will be studied.

End of conversation...

Have a good night.





Sent using the mail.com mail app

> On 9/17/16 at 6:50 PM, Michael Farmer wrote:
> 
> So, who classified it? What's the classification? Sounds fishy to me if you 
> won't name names. 
> Doesn't look at all like a meteorite. I stand by that. Doesn't mean I'm 
> right, so prove me wrong with facts. 
> 
> Michael Farmer
> 
>> On Sep 17, 2016, at 4:46 PM, Bigjohn Shea via Meteorite-list 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> I'll be sure to let the PHD level Geochemist with decades worth of 
>> experience classifying meteorites know that...
>> 
>> Really I'm only asking if anyone recognizes it from a recent sale.  The lab 
>> was given a specific story and like diligent scientists they are trying to 
>> disprove it.
>> 
>> If anyone has seen it for sale recently please let me know.
>> Thank you,
>> John
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Sent using the mail.com mail app
>> 
>>> On 9/17/16 at 10:13 AM, Michael Farmer wrote:
>>> 
>>> Not even close to being a meteorite. 
>>> 
>>> Michael Farmer
>>> 
 On Sep 17, 2016, at 8:36 AM, Bigjohn Shea via Meteorite-list 
  wrote:
 
 Mendy,
 I'm not going to comment on whether I think it is or is not a meteorite.  
 There are professionals working on it and they will better determine that 
 than these photos alone will.
 But, I appreciate your insights as usual.
 Hope business is going good.  :-)
 Cheers,
 John 
 
 
 
 Sent using the mail.com mail app
 
> On 9/17/16 at 8:18 AM, Gmail wrote:
> 
> Well, the way you phrased the request makes it tough to fulfill because 
> best I can tell on my iPhone, this is terrestrial.
> 
> Mendy Ouzillou
> 
> On Sep 17, 2016, at 6:11 AM, Bigjohn Shea via Meteorite-list 
>  wrote:
> 
> Dear List,
> Hope you are all doing well this weekend.
> 
> For reasons I will not get into right now, I have been asked to reach out 
> to the meteorite community and see if anyone recognizes this specimen 
> from a recent sale.
> 
> Here is a link to some photos:
> 
> https://www.dropbox.com/sh/z1wuakhrxa7s8uy/AABaOdwIdfLfstsBklRyNTVra?dl=0
> 
> This relates to a possible misrepresentation of a specimen, and a friend 
> of mine in the meteorite community has asked that I try to seek out other 
> opinions regarding the origin of this specimen.
> 
> Bear in mind, I am not asking for help on potential classification, nor 
> am I asking if it is or is not a meteorite. 
> 
> Please contact me off list if you recognize this specimen and can share 
> information related to a recent sale/transaction concerning it.
> 
> Thank you very much for your time and consideration!
> 
> Cheers,
> John A. Shea, MD
> IMCA 3295
> 
> 
> 
> Sent using the mail.com mail app
> __
> 
> Visit our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/meteoritecentral and the 
> Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com
> Meteorite-list mailing list
> Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
> https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
 __
 
 Visit our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/meteoritecentral and the 
 Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com
 Meteorite-list mailing list
 Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
 https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
>> __
>> 
>> Visit our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/meteoritecentral and the 
>> Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com
>> Meteorite-list mailing list
>> Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
>> https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
__

Visit our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/meteoritecentral and the 
Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com
Meteorite-list mailing list
Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
__

Visit our Facebook page 

Re: [meteorite-list] Does anyone recognize this specimen?

2016-09-17 Thread Bigjohn Shea via Meteorite-list
I don't want to prove you wrong.  I never asked for your opinion if this was a 
meteorite.  It hasn't been studied yet, and it's not up to you or me to decide 
in this scenario whether or not it will be studied.

End of conversation...

Have a good night.





Sent using the mail.com mail app

On 9/17/16 at 6:50 PM, Michael Farmer wrote:

> So, who classified it? What's the classification? Sounds fishy to me if you 
> won't name names. 
> Doesn't look at all like a meteorite. I stand by that. Doesn't mean I'm 
> right, so prove me wrong with facts. 
> 
> Michael Farmer
> 
> > On Sep 17, 2016, at 4:46 PM, Bigjohn Shea via Meteorite-list 
> >  wrote:
> > 
> > I'll be sure to let the PHD level Geochemist with decades worth of 
> > experience classifying meteorites know that...
> > 
> > Really I'm only asking if anyone recognizes it from a recent sale.  The lab 
> > was given a specific story and like diligent scientists they are trying to 
> > disprove it.
> > 
> > If anyone has seen it for sale recently please let me know.
> > Thank you,
> > John
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Sent using the mail.com mail app
> > 
> >> On 9/17/16 at 10:13 AM, Michael Farmer wrote:
> >> 
> >> Not even close to being a meteorite. 
> >> 
> >> Michael Farmer
> >> 
> >>> On Sep 17, 2016, at 8:36 AM, Bigjohn Shea via Meteorite-list 
> >>>  wrote:
> >>> 
> >>> Mendy,
> >>> I'm not going to comment on whether I think it is or is not a meteorite.  
> >>> There are professionals working on it and they will better determine that 
> >>> than these photos alone will.
> >>> But, I appreciate your insights as usual.
> >>> Hope business is going good.  :-)
> >>> Cheers,
> >>> John 
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>> Sent using the mail.com mail app
> >>> 
>  On 9/17/16 at 8:18 AM, Gmail wrote:
>  
>  Well, the way you phrased the request makes it tough to fulfill because 
>  best I can tell on my iPhone, this is terrestrial.
>  
>  Mendy Ouzillou
>  
>  On Sep 17, 2016, at 6:11 AM, Bigjohn Shea via Meteorite-list 
>   wrote:
>  
>  Dear List,
>  Hope you are all doing well this weekend.
>  
>  For reasons I will not get into right now, I have been asked to reach 
>  out to the meteorite community and see if anyone recognizes this 
>  specimen from a recent sale.
>  
>  Here is a link to some photos:
>  
>  https://www.dropbox.com/sh/z1wuakhrxa7s8uy/AABaOdwIdfLfstsBklRyNTVra?dl=0
>  
>  This relates to a possible misrepresentation of a specimen, and a friend 
>  of mine in the meteorite community has asked that I try to seek out 
>  other opinions regarding the origin of this specimen.
>  
>  Bear in mind, I am not asking for help on potential classification, nor 
>  am I asking if it is or is not a meteorite. 
>  
>  Please contact me off list if you recognize this specimen and can share 
>  information related to a recent sale/transaction concerning it.
>  
>  Thank you very much for your time and consideration!
>  
>  Cheers,
>  John A. Shea, MD
>  IMCA 3295
>  
>  
>  
>  Sent using the mail.com mail app
>  __
>  
>  Visit our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/meteoritecentral and 
>  the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com
>  Meteorite-list mailing list
>  Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
>  https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
> >>> __
> >>> 
> >>> Visit our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/meteoritecentral and the 
> >>> Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com
> >>> Meteorite-list mailing list
> >>> Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
> >>> https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
> > __
> > 
> > Visit our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/meteoritecentral and the 
> > Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com
> > Meteorite-list mailing list
> > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
> > https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
__

Visit our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/meteoritecentral and the 
Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com
Meteorite-list mailing list
Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list


Re: [meteorite-list] Does anyone recognize this specimen?

2016-09-17 Thread Bigjohn Shea via Meteorite-list
I'll be sure to let the PHD level Geochemist with decades worth of experience 
classifying meteorites know that...

Really I'm only asking if anyone recognizes it from a recent sale.  The lab was 
given a specific story and like diligent scientists they are trying to disprove 
it.

If anyone has seen it for sale recently please let me know.
Thank you,
John





Sent using the mail.com mail app

On 9/17/16 at 10:13 AM, Michael Farmer wrote:

> Not even close to being a meteorite. 
> 
> Michael Farmer
> 
> > On Sep 17, 2016, at 8:36 AM, Bigjohn Shea via Meteorite-list 
> >  wrote:
> > 
> > Mendy,
> > I'm not going to comment on whether I think it is or is not a meteorite.  
> > There are professionals working on it and they will better determine that 
> > than these photos alone will.
> > But, I appreciate your insights as usual.
> > Hope business is going good.  :-)
> > Cheers,
> > John 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Sent using the mail.com mail app
> > 
> >> On 9/17/16 at 8:18 AM, Gmail wrote:
> >> 
> >> Well, the way you phrased the request makes it tough to fulfill because 
> >> best I can tell on my iPhone, this is terrestrial.
> >> 
> >> Mendy Ouzillou
> >> 
> >> On Sep 17, 2016, at 6:11 AM, Bigjohn Shea via Meteorite-list 
> >>  wrote:
> >> 
> >> Dear List,
> >> Hope you are all doing well this weekend.
> >> 
> >> For reasons I will not get into right now, I have been asked to reach out 
> >> to the meteorite community and see if anyone recognizes this specimen from 
> >> a recent sale.
> >> 
> >> Here is a link to some photos:
> >> 
> >> https://www.dropbox.com/sh/z1wuakhrxa7s8uy/AABaOdwIdfLfstsBklRyNTVra?dl=0
> >> 
> >> This relates to a possible misrepresentation of a specimen, and a friend 
> >> of mine in the meteorite community has asked that I try to seek out other 
> >> opinions regarding the origin of this specimen.
> >> 
> >> Bear in mind, I am not asking for help on potential classification, nor am 
> >> I asking if it is or is not a meteorite. 
> >> 
> >> Please contact me off list if you recognize this specimen and can share 
> >> information related to a recent sale/transaction concerning it.
> >> 
> >> Thank you very much for your time and consideration!
> >> 
> >> Cheers,
> >> John A. Shea, MD
> >> IMCA 3295
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> Sent using the mail.com mail app
> >> __
> >> 
> >> Visit our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/meteoritecentral and the 
> >> Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com
> >> Meteorite-list mailing list
> >> Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
> >> https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
> > __
> > 
> > Visit our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/meteoritecentral and the 
> > Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com
> > Meteorite-list mailing list
> > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
> > https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
__

Visit our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/meteoritecentral and the 
Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com
Meteorite-list mailing list
Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list


[meteorite-list] Some Ancient Mars Lakes Formed Long After Others

2016-09-17 Thread Paul via Meteorite-list

Some ancient Mars lakes formed long after others
http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/news/news.php?feature=6619
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2016/09/160915142043.htm

The paper is:

Wilson, S. A., A. D. Howard, J. M. Moore, and J. A. Grant,
2016 A Cold-Wet Mid-Latitude Environment on Mars
during the Hesperian-Amazonian Transition: Evidence
from Northern Arabia Valleys and Paleolakes. Journal
of Geophysical Research: Planets, 2016; DOI: 10.1002/2016JE005052
http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/2016JE005052/abstract

Another article is:

Mars rover views spectacular layered rock formations
NASA/Jet Propulsion Laboratory, September 12, 2016
https://www.nasa.gov/feature/jpl/mars-rover-views-spectacular-layered-rock-formations
http://thescienceexplorer.com/universe/mars-rover-views-spectacular-layered-rock-formations

Yours,

Paul H.

__

Visit our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/meteoritecentral and the 
Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com
Meteorite-list mailing list
Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list


Re: [meteorite-list] Does anyone recognize this specimen?

2016-09-17 Thread Bigjohn Shea via Meteorite-list
Mendy,
I'm not going to comment on whether I think it is or is not a meteorite.  There 
are professionals working on it and they will better determine that than these 
photos alone will.
But, I appreciate your insights as usual.
Hope business is going good.  :-)
Cheers,
John 



Sent using the mail.com mail app

On 9/17/16 at 8:18 AM, Gmail wrote:

> Well, the way you phrased the request makes it tough to fulfill because best 
> I can tell on my iPhone, this is terrestrial.
> 
> Mendy Ouzillou
> 
> On Sep 17, 2016, at 6:11 AM, Bigjohn Shea via Meteorite-list 
>  wrote:
> 
> Dear List,
> Hope you are all doing well this weekend.
> 
> For reasons I will not get into right now, I have been asked to reach out to 
> the meteorite community and see if anyone recognizes this specimen from a 
> recent sale.
> 
> Here is a link to some photos:
> 
> https://www.dropbox.com/sh/z1wuakhrxa7s8uy/AABaOdwIdfLfstsBklRyNTVra?dl=0
> 
> This relates to a possible misrepresentation of a specimen, and a friend of 
> mine in the meteorite community has asked that I try to seek out other 
> opinions regarding the origin of this specimen.
> 
> Bear in mind, I am not asking for help on potential classification, nor am I 
> asking if it is or is not a meteorite. 
> 
> Please contact me off list if you recognize this specimen and can share 
> information related to a recent sale/transaction concerning it.
> 
> Thank you very much for your time and consideration!
> 
> Cheers,
> John A. Shea, MD
> IMCA 3295
> 
> 
> 
> Sent using the mail.com mail app
> __
> 
> Visit our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/meteoritecentral and the 
> Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com
> Meteorite-list mailing list
> Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
> https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
__

Visit our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/meteoritecentral and the 
Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com
Meteorite-list mailing list
Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list


Re: [meteorite-list] Does anyone recognize this specimen?

2016-09-17 Thread Gmail via Meteorite-list
Well, the way you phrased the request makes it tough to fulfill because best I 
can tell on my iPhone, this is terrestrial.

Mendy Ouzillou

On Sep 17, 2016, at 6:11 AM, Bigjohn Shea via Meteorite-list 
 wrote:

Dear List,
Hope you are all doing well this weekend.

For reasons I will not get into right now, I have been asked to reach out to 
the meteorite community and see if anyone recognizes this specimen from a 
recent sale.

Here is a link to some photos:

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/z1wuakhrxa7s8uy/AABaOdwIdfLfstsBklRyNTVra?dl=0

This relates to a possible misrepresentation of a specimen, and a friend of 
mine in the meteorite community has asked that I try to seek out other opinions 
regarding the origin of this specimen.

Bear in mind, I am not asking for help on potential classification, nor am I 
asking if it is or is not a meteorite. 

Please contact me off list if you recognize this specimen and can share 
information related to a recent sale/transaction concerning it.

Thank you very much for your time and consideration!

Cheers,
John A. Shea, MD
IMCA 3295



Sent using the mail.com mail app
__

Visit our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/meteoritecentral and the 
Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com
Meteorite-list mailing list
Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
__

Visit our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/meteoritecentral and the 
Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com
Meteorite-list mailing list
Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list


[meteorite-list] Does anyone recognize this specimen?

2016-09-17 Thread Bigjohn Shea via Meteorite-list
Dear List,
Hope you are all doing well this weekend.

For reasons I will not get into right now, I have been asked to reach out to 
the meteorite community and see if anyone recognizes this specimen from a 
recent sale.

Here is a link to some photos:

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/z1wuakhrxa7s8uy/AABaOdwIdfLfstsBklRyNTVra?dl=0

This relates to a possible misrepresentation of a specimen, and a friend of 
mine in the meteorite community has asked that I try to seek out other opinions 
regarding the origin of this specimen.

Bear in mind, I am not asking for help on potential classification, nor am I 
asking if it is or is not a meteorite. 

Please contact me off list if you recognize this specimen and can share 
information related to a recent sale/transaction concerning it.

Thank you very much for your time and consideration!

Cheers,
John A. Shea, MD
IMCA 3295



Sent using the mail.com mail app
__

Visit our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/meteoritecentral and the 
Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com
Meteorite-list mailing list
Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list


[meteorite-list] Meteorite Picture of the Day

2016-09-17 Thread Paul Swartz via Meteorite-list
Today's Meteorite Picture of the Day: Sikhote Alin

Contributed by: Peter Marmet

http://www.tucsonmeteorites.com/mpodmain.asp?DD=09/17/2016
__

Visit our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/meteoritecentral and the 
Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com
Meteorite-list mailing list
Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list