Re: [meteorite-list] Steve Curry on LinkedIn
I just got a request from him too. I told him to never contact me, so now he is sending me harassing emails. Is there not some way to block this asshole?? He reads this list too. -- * Stuart McDaniel Lawndale, NC IMCA#9052 http://spacerocks.weebly.com http://www.facebook.com/Stuart.McDaniel.No.1 * Bob King nightsk...@gmail.com wrote: = I got one too. I consider anything from him toxic after Blaine's experience, so I tossed it. Bob On Mon, Jul 8, 2013 at 12:05 PM, Michael Mulgrew mikest...@gmail.com wrote: List, I recently received an unsolicited invitation from one Steve Curry, Meteoriticist on LinkedIn (profile page here: www.linkedin.com/pub/steve-curry/9/31a/55/). Apparently anyone can call themselves a meteoriticist, even someone convicted of fraud in that arena. I thought all of this stuff was supposed to stop? Michael in so. Cal. __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Steve Curry on LinkedIn
Done. I want to know how he keeps emailing me when I have him blocked in my email program?? -- * Stuart McDaniel Lawndale, NC IMCA#9052 http://spacerocks.weebly.com http://www.facebook.com/Stuart.McDaniel.No.1 * Michael Mulgrew mikest...@gmail.com wrote: = All, You can report his profile as a misrepresentation (Google report linkedin profile for instructions), which I did. I would recommend more people report it, with links to news stories covering his conviction. His LinkedIn page makes the claim that he discovered the first north American lunar meteorite. Oh boy Michael in so. Cal. On Mon, Jul 8, 2013 at 10:11 AM, actionshoot...@carolina.rr.com wrote: I just got a request from him too. I told him to never contact me, so now he is sending me harassing emails. Is there not some way to block this asshole?? He reads this list too. -- * Stuart McDaniel Lawndale, NC IMCA#9052 http://spacerocks.weebly.com http://www.facebook.com/Stuart.McDaniel.No.1 * Bob King nightsk...@gmail.com wrote: = I got one too. I consider anything from him toxic after Blaine's experience, so I tossed it. Bob On Mon, Jul 8, 2013 at 12:05 PM, Michael Mulgrew mikest...@gmail.com wrote: List, I recently received an unsolicited invitation from one Steve Curry, Meteoriticist on LinkedIn (profile page here: www.linkedin.com/pub/steve-curry/9/31a/55/). Apparently anyone can call themselves a meteoriticist, even someone convicted of fraud in that arena. I thought all of this stuff was supposed to stop? Michael in so. Cal. __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Steve Curry
OMG!! -- * Stuart McDaniel Lawndale, NC IMCA#9052 http://spacerocks.weebly.com http://www.facebook.com/Stuart.McDaniel.No.1 * petersche...@rcn.com wrote: = Hi, It appears Mr. Curry has been busy of late. Poor Blaine, no good deed goes unpunished. http://blaine-reed-meteorites.blogspot.com/ Thanks, Peter __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Curiosity Bright Object Location?
Looks like a screw fell out to me!! -- * Stuart McDaniel Lawndale, NC IMCA#9052 http://spacerocks.weebly.com http://www.facebook.com/Stuart.McDaniel.No.1 * Yinan Wang veom...@gmail.com wrote: = Hi, Bottom of the screen towards the right (about 60% right, 90% down). Very small metallic object: http://www.nasa.gov/images/content/694811main_pia16225-43_full.jpg -Yinan On Tue, Oct 9, 2012 at 12:24 PM, Mike Groetz mpg4...@gmail.com wrote: Goodmorning- Would somebody help me by better defining the location of the bright object mentioned in the various articles posted on this list and on the internet? It may be my eyeballsbut I still don't see it. Here is one of the articles: http://www.foxnews.com/science/2012/10/09/curiosity-rover-detects-bright-object-on-surface-mars/?intcmp=features#ixzz28lxJtKnV Do you think it is natural or a piece of the craft? Thank You Mike __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Big Sun-diving Comet Discovered: Comet C/2012 S1(ISON)
Given it might be as bright or brighter than the full Moon, what size will it appear, comparatively speaking?? -- * Stuart McDaniel Lawndale, NC IMCA#9052 http://spacerocks.weebly.com http://www.facebook.com/Stuart.McDaniel.No.1 * Matson wrote: = Hi Ron/List, Given the length of the current arc (270 days), and the consistency of the photometry over that time, I will go out on a limb and say that this will almost certainly become the brightest comet that has ever been seen -- by a significant margin -- by most people alive today. What's particularly amazing is how close this comet will come to Mars around October 1st next year -- less than 7 million miles! Hopefully NASA/JPL will have plans in the works to schedule instrument pointing and imaging of the comet using the suite of sensors both on and in orbit around the Red Planet. For Mars, this will be a northern hemisphere comet -- certainly visible from both rovers. --Rob -Original Message- From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of Ron Baalke Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2012 8:57 AM To: Meteorite Mailing List Subject: [meteorite-list] Big Sun-diving Comet Discovered: Comet C/2012 S1(ISON) Space Weather News for Sept. 25, 2012 http://spaceweather.com SUNDIVING COMET: Astronomers are paying close attention to a newly-discovered comet, C/2012 S1 (ISON), which is heading for a remarkably close encounter with the sun. Fierce solar heat could turn Comet ISON into a bright naked-eye object in Nov. 2013. First images and speculation about the comet are highlighted on today's edition of http://spaceweather.com __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Big Sun-diving Comet Discovered: Comet C/2012 S1(ISON)
We can only hope it will be spectacular and CLEAR WEATHER!! -- * Stuart McDaniel Lawndale, NC IMCA#9052 http://spacerocks.weebly.com http://www.facebook.com/Stuart.McDaniel.No.1 * Matson wrote: = Some early estimates are that close to perihelion, the comet's tail could span more than 90 degrees as seen from earth. Haven't read any estimates yet on the expected angular size of the coma surrounding the nucleus. Probably no way to predict since the composition and size of the nucleus are not known. --Rob -Original Message- From: actionshoot...@carolina.rr.com [mailto:actionshoot...@carolina.rr.com] Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2012 11:02 AM To: Ron Baalke; Meteorite Mailing List; Matson, Robert D. Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Big Sun-diving Comet Discovered: Comet C/2012 S1(ISON) Given it might be as bright or brighter than the full Moon, what size will it appear, comparatively speaking?? -- * Stuart McDaniel Lawndale, NC IMCA#9052 http://spacerocks.weebly.com http://www.facebook.com/Stuart.McDaniel.No.1 * __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] New post: Probable meteorite fall at Whitmire, SC in February
Very nice article, I don't think I ever saw that one! Thanks for the references Bob, well done!! -- * Stuart McDaniel Lawndale, NC IMCA#9052 http://spacerocks.weebly.com http://www.facebook.com/Stuart.McDaniel.No.1 * Matson wrote: = Hi Marc, Just a quick comment on your recent post about the Whitmire, SC, fall on February 13th earlier this year. You posted: For one, this event slipped through the cracks before Galactic Analytics LLC was formed. Now that this work is underway as a subscription-based effort, it allows us to dedicate the time necessary to properly write up events like this in the future. The slipped through the cracks phrase might mislead some into thinking that no prior recognition or analysis of this fall has been done, when in fact a significant expenditure of manhours and financial resources have gone into it. If you missed Bob Verish's write-up in Meteorite Times, it is well worth reading as it includes a wealth of information that has been collected and analyzed for this fall: radar data, witness reports and interviews, Stuart McDaniel's all-sky camera recording, seismographic data, upper atmospheric winds, and boots on the ground descriptions and photos of the ground conditions: http://www.meteorite-times.com/bobs-findings/the-whitmire-south-carolin a-bolide-of-february-13th-2012-the-search-for-meteorites-from-this-fireb all-meteor-still-continues/ Bob, Nick, myself and no doubt others certainly welcome the addition of your expertise to the analysis of this event. Best wishes! --Rob __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] New post: Probable meteorite fall at Whitmire, SC in February
Michael Johnson and I went to hunt it but never found anything due to the thick vegetation. This report almost wants to make me go back. -- * Stuart McDaniel Lawndale, NC IMCA#9052 http://spacerocks.weebly.com http://www.facebook.com/Stuart.McDaniel.No.1 * Matson wrote: = Hi Marc, Just a quick comment on your recent post about the Whitmire, SC, fall on February 13th earlier this year. You posted: For one, this event slipped through the cracks before Galactic Analytics LLC was formed. Now that this work is underway as a subscription-based effort, it allows us to dedicate the time necessary to properly write up events like this in the future. The slipped through the cracks phrase might mislead some into thinking that no prior recognition or analysis of this fall has been done, when in fact a significant expenditure of manhours and financial resources have gone into it. If you missed Bob Verish's write-up in Meteorite Times, it is well worth reading as it includes a wealth of information that has been collected and analyzed for this fall: radar data, witness reports and interviews, Stuart McDaniel's all-sky camera recording, seismographic data, upper atmospheric winds, and boots on the ground descriptions and photos of the ground conditions: http://www.meteorite-times.com/bobs-findings/the-whitmire-south-carolin a-bolide-of-february-13th-2012-the-search-for-meteorites-from-this-fireb all-meteor-still-continues/ Bob, Nick, myself and no doubt others certainly welcome the addition of your expertise to the analysis of this event. Best wishes! --Rob __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] 14JUN2012 meteor video now posted
Wow, that was pretty impressive. -- * Stuart McDaniel Lawndale, NC IMCA#9052 http://spacerocks.weebly.com http://www.facebook.com/Stuart.McDaniel.No.1 * drtanuki drtan...@yahoo.com wrote: = Dear List, 240+ reports now! The meteor shows clear fragmentation... rocks!!!? A video of the meteor is now posted from the 14JUN2012 event: http://lunarmeteoritehunters.blogspot.jp/2012/06/breaking-news-mbiq-detects-ontario.html Dirk Ross...Tokyo __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Deep penetrating fireball observed over middle Tennessee last night - June 8, 01:48:12 AM EDT
I will check my NMSU camera when it uploads shortly. I don't think mine stretches quite that far though. -- * Stuart McDaniel Lawndale, NC IMCA#9052 http://spacerocks.weebly.com http://www.facebook.com/Stuart.McDaniel.No.1 * Bill Cooke cook...@comcast.net wrote: = At 05:48:12 UT on June 8, 4 NASA all sky meteor cameras detected a bright (-6 magnitude) fireball north of Tullahoma, Tennessee, moving slightly east of north at 24.5 km/sec. Even though it was first picked up at an altitude of 87.4 km, the meteor penetrated unusually low in the atmosphere, reaching 30.5 km altitude before track was lost. A crude estimate from the preliminary light curve puts the meteor mass in the kilogram size range. Event summary: Start position: 85.961 W, 35.518 N at an altitude of 87.4 km Loss of track at: 85.923 W, 35.789 N at an altitude of 30.5 km Average speed: 22.2 km/s Initial speed: 24.5 km/s Speed at loss of track: 9.5 km/s Tisserand parameter of 3.4 indicates an asteroidal origin More details, including movies and composites, can be found at http://fireballs.ndc.nasa.gov/20120608.html Bill Cooke NASA Meteoroid Environments Office Marshall Space Flight Center __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
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Re: [meteorite-list] Sutter's Mill CM3?
So has anyone seen the new fall is a CM3 instead of a CM2? -- * Stuart McDaniel Lawndale, NC IMCA#9052 http://spacerocks.weebly.com http://www.facebook.com/Stuart.McDaniel.No.1 * Michael Gilmer meteoritem...@gmail.com wrote: = Hi Listees, Sutter's Mill trivia and stats : The current unofficial TKW is - 363.74g The current official TKW is : 282.40g Number of official finds (with Jenniskens SM numbers) : 44 Number of official finds that have no weights or other info : 9 Number of unofficial finds : 49 Smallest whole stone found - .1g oriented stone by Robert Ward Main mass : Mitch Carey find (35.1g) Number of finds weighing 1g : 8 Youngest finder : Loraine Logan (4-yo) - 6.2g stone Updated find tally page - http://www.galactic-stone.com/pages/lotus Official find page - http://asima.seti.org/sm/ Best regards and happy hunting! MikeG -- --- Galactic Stone Ironworks - MikeG Web: http://www.galactic-stone.com Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/galacticstone Twitter: http://twitter.com/GalacticStone RSS: http://www.galactic-stone.com/rss/126516 --- __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] It's a zepplin, not a blimp!
OK, I am goin gto ask the obvious, what is the difference in a blimp and a zep? -- * Stuart McDaniel Lawndale, NC IMCA#9052 http://spacerocks.weebly.com http://www.facebook.com/Stuart.McDaniel.No.1 * Sterling K. Webb sterling_k_w...@sbcglobal.net wrote: = Phil, List, As the sarcastic individual who suggested a need for Blimp Patches, I apologize. It is, literally, a Zeppelin, built by the Zeppelin company in Friedrichshafen, Germany, home of the original Zeppelins. At 246 feet long, she stretches 15 feet longer than a standard Boeing 747 and 50 feet longer than the largest commercial blimps flying today. It is named Eureka, nicely matching the history of Sutter's Mill. Maybe the name will bring good luck. http://www.airshipventures.com/about Unlike the original Zeppelins, it is a semi-rigid design, lacking a full envelope frame like the old ones. However, it is made of carbon fibre and aluminum, has very sophisticated motive control, with vectored thrust and fly-by-wire controls, and has incredible maneuverability. That said, trying to maneuver close to the ground in that terrain in a weightless craft almost as long as a football field is a daunting prospect. All old airshipmen know the dangers are near the ground, not in the sky. Zeppelin Patches? Sterling K. Webb --- - Original Message - From: dorifry dori...@embarqmail.com To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Friday, May 04, 2012 12:14 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] It's a zepplin, not a blimp! Big difference! Stop calling it a blimp please! (LOL) Phil Whitmer Joshua Tree Earth Space Museum __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] What private collector has the most localities?
I also have 80 different ones counting NWAs. -- * Stuart McDaniel Lawndale, NC IMCA#9052 http://spacerocks.weebly.com http://www.facebook.com/Stuart.McDaniel.No.1 * Michael Gilmer meteoritem...@gmail.com wrote: = Hi List, This is a curiosity-based question. I know many list members have outstanding and enviable collections. The Hupes, Farmer, Cottingham, Strope, and Kilgore come to mind as dealers/collectors who have insane collections of meteorites that most collectors would drool over. Main masses, football-sized planetaries, coffee-table sized slabs of pallasite, and historical rarities populate many high-end collections. But, what I am curious about is - number of localities. What collector has the most localities represented in their collection? This number could include sub-gram micros, so I am thinking that the biggest collection (in terms of localities and not specimen size) might not belong to one of the obvious heavyweights we would expect. If there was a leaderboard for number of localities, who would be sitting on top of that list? Using the EOM website as a rough guide, it seems that Gerald Armstrong has an impressive catalog of localities. But not every major collector uses the EOM, so who is top dog? For the record, my own collection numbers about 80 localities. This number fluctuates frequently because my collection has a high turnover rate, and I have had to sell off my entire collection three times to pay bills. My locality count has dipped as low as 10 and peaked as high as 130. Of course, this is small potatoes. LOL. Best regards, MikeG -- --- Galactic Stone Ironworks - MikeG Web: http://www.galactic-stone.com Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/galacticstone Twitter: http://twitter.com/GalacticStone RSS: http://www.galactic-stone.com/rss/126516 --- __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] meteorite men
Not sure where you get your info Steve but all three are new episodes, the last 3 for season three. They are just as Craig described below. -- * Stuart McDaniel Lawndale, NC IMCA#9052 http://spacerocks.weebly.com http://www.facebook.com/Stuart.McDaniel.No.1 * Craig Moody meteoritesno...@hotmail.ca wrote: = Hi Steve and list. It is a new trip into Arizona (Sahuarita); then Homestead, Iowa; and then they are looking for the Pultusk fall in Poland. Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2012 13:49:24 -0600 From: chicagosteve1...@gmail.com To: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] meteorite men Hello again list. The times here in the central time belt is, 7 pm to 10 pm cst. Also the episode that was done in poland was were steve and geoff went to morasko. I saw that one and the one where in arizona they went franconia and holbrook. So unless they went back to those 2 spots,they are repeats,but still really good to see again. -- Steve R. Anold, chicago, ill. __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] New Fall in China further information
Interesting... -- Stuart McDaniel Lawndale, NC IMCA#9052 http://spacerocks.weebly.com http://www.facebook.com/Stuart.McDaniel.No.1 Jim Wooddell nf11...@npgcable.com wrote: = According to my source, this news missed most news sources. 100's of witnesses at lunch time saw this huge fireball and experts estimate hundreds of stones still on the ground, in the snow estimated from 5g to 20kg. Many specimens recovered in a 6km x 3km zone. I believe the largest recovered specimen is about 12.5kg I suspect we should be seeing some of this in the near future! Cheers! Jim Jim Wooddell http://k7wfr.us __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] 21 February 2012 Rockhaven fall
Rob what is the two falls you are reffering to in NC and SC? I didn't know there was one in NC, just the one in SC I caught on camera. -- Stuart McDaniel Lawndale, NC IMCA#9052 http://spacerocks.weebly.com http://www.facebook.com/Stuart.McDaniel.No.1 Matson wrote: = Hi Paul, Looks like much easier ground to search than the two falls in North Carolina and South Carolina! What a great potential name for a meteorite fall: Rockhaven. ;-) Congrats to Alan Hildebrand for nailing the prediction of the fall location. It looks like Buzzard Coulee all over again... --Rob -Original Message- From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of Paul Gessler Sent: Friday, February 24, 2012 8:52 AM To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] ROCKHAVEN 4-Sale http://saskatoon.kijiji.ca/c-buy-and-sell-art-collectibles-Rockhaven-Met eorites-W0QQAdIdZ357541925 Yaa-Hoo Buckaroo!!! Who knows? Paul Gessler __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] 4.5 Billion-Year-Old Fish Discovered
It's a Cootersaurus -- Stuart McDaniel Lawndale, NC IMCA#9052 http://spacerocks.weebly.com http://www.facebook.com/Stuart.McDaniel.No.1 David R Childs david.chil...@btinternet.com wrote: = Small Megaladon I would say! David R Childs - Original Message - From: Greg Hupé gmh...@centurylink.net To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Cc: i...@imcamail.de Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2012 6:45 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] 4.5 Billion-Year-Old Fish Discovered Has anyone seen this newly discovered ancient fish? It is simply out of this world! http://www.lunarrock.com/AncientFish.jpg Best Regards, Greg Greg Hupé The Hupé Collection gmh...@centurylink.net www.LunarRock.com NaturesVault (eBay) IMCA 3163 Click here for my current eBay auctions: http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZnaturesvault __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] 2nd Report from Strewnfield in Edgewood Texas
I wouldn't be so quick there, just because no on has ever CAPTURED or KILLED one... doen't mean they could not be there. There are more exotic species of animals in TX than any other state. Why could there not be an escaped one? My wife is from TX and has seen one on their land they farmed when she was growing up, it was from a defunct circus that turned the animals loose. -- Stuart McDaniel Lawndale, NC IMCA#9052 http://spacerocks.weebly.com http://www.facebook.com/Stuart.McDaniel.No.1 dorifry dori...@embarqmail.com wrote: = Just to clarify, there are no black panthers (Panthera) living in North America. Texas has lots of mountain lions from the Puma genus. Black panther sightings are urban legends. http://www.tpwd.state.tx.us/publications/pwdpubs/media/pwd_br_w7000_0232.pdf Phil Whitmer Joshua Tree Earth Space Museum - Original Message - From: McCartney Taylor mccart...@blackbearddata.com To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2012 12:17 AM Subject: [meteorite-list] 2nd Report from Strewnfield in Edgewood Texas Nothing has been found where the radar data said it might be. Torvald and Donavan have left the zone replaced by Stephen Thompson out of Fredricksburg TX who is an expert on Sonic Boom characteristics. I've been lucky enough to get some media attention to try to motivate the public to assist here is today's interview on TV. This is the 5 TV interview I've given since arriving. http://dfw.cbslocal.com/video/6713580-meteor-hunters-scouring-north-texas/ We spent the day interviewing more witnesses compiling and extending the range of sonic boom farther to the east to include Wills Point, and southern Lake Tawakanii. We'll do some field samplings tomorrow east of 19. Also as a warning. I've heard from a local that the landowner who owns the land in the north where the upper radar blip is, has gotten very hostile to all outsiders. The local warned me to tell everyone to stay off that property. He thinks the landowner may shoot to wound or maim. So I'd like everyone to take that threat to heart. At this point, we have two new important observations and think the strewnfield to be east of 19 now. At this point, there have been no Z sightings, but the Black Panther remains a constant threat. 5 dogs were killed. Also, the park rangers at the state park warned us that a mountain lion has been spotted in the area. Some sonic boom activity has been traced back to some individual using some kind of reactive explosive that detonates when shot by a bullet. The local police has informed us this has been a bit of a problem for weeks. Consequently, it really screws up our acoustical survey. and a mention and big hand to Dirk Ross, David Gonzales, and Marc Fries for giving us back support. -mccartney taylor stephen thompson (meteorite hunter) (offical panther bait) __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] CAI inclusions
I can't wait for the research to get back on this one Greg!! It is an awesome stone. -- Stuart McDaniel Lawndale, NC IMCA#9052 http://www.facebook.com/Stuart.McDaniel.No.1 Greg Catterton star_wars_collec...@yahoo.com wrote: = Speaking of big CAIs... Here is a rather nice 1cm plus CAI from a new CV3 I had classified. (still provisional at this time) http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c165/jedisdiamond/NWA6717Mainmass.jpg Here is the CAI stone, which came from another group of NWA carbonaceous stones (not the same as above and still under classification). This one is on its way to Germany for research and study (may be the largest CAI ever!) but is still nice to look at. I am excited for the results of this one... http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c165/jedisdiamond/DSCF5377.jpg http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c165/jedisdiamond/DSCF5367.jpg I have CM, CO, CR and CV that all have CAIs visible. Greg Catterton www.wanderingstarmeteorites.com On Ebay: http://stores.shop.ebay.com/wanderingstarmeteorites On Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/WanderingStarMeteorites From: Sterling K. Webb sterling_k_w...@sbcglobal.net To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Cc: E.P. Grondine epgrond...@yahoo.com Sent: Sunday, August 7, 2011 1:16 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] CAI inclusions E. P., Simple question - what classes of meteorites have CAI inclusions? Simple answer: any kind of chondrite. However, most common in carbonaceous chondrites, particularly CV's. They contain more refractory elements than the ordinary condrules they are found with. They were formed at higher temperatures and many show signs of repeated meltings. They are older than the next most early solar system materials, the chondrules, by 2,000,000 years or so. Two different dating methods give ages of 4567 my and 4571 my.for CAI's. Sterling K. Webb 08-07-11, 12:16 AM CDT - Original Message - From: E.P. Grondine epgrond...@yahoo.com To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Saturday, August 06, 2011 7:12 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] CAI inclusions Hi all - Simple question - what classes of meteorites have CAI inclusions? E.P. __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Martin Stefan Kicked out of IMCA for theirillegal behavior
Sounds more like buyers remorse to me. Stuart McDaniel Lawndale, NC IMCA#9052 http://www.facebook.com/Stuart.McDaniel.No.1 Matthias Bärmann majbaerm...@web.de wrote: = Mike Farmer wrote: Everything else is diversion from that question. Perhaps not necessarily diversion, but interesting in another sense. Best, Matthias - Original Message - From: meteoriteguy.com m...@meteoriteguy.com To: Matthias Bärmann majbaerm...@web.de Cc: nav...@intelius.com; MexicoDoug mexicod...@aim.com; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2011 4:35 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Martin Stefan Kicked out of IMCA for theirillegal behavior Was there an unconditional Refund policy offered? That is the problem. Michael Farmer Sent from my iPhone On Aug 2, 2011, at 7:19 AM, Matthias Bärmann majbaerm...@web.de wrote: Mr. Jain wrote: I am very new to the meteorite collection ... 3 days learning about meteorites and their classification (...) He also wrote: I also did a bit of research on them and was not thrilled with their quality. I wanted to return Lunar Kreep because it just doesn‚Äôt look right to me (...) makes me think that what they sold me are either fakes or very low quality stuff (...) Sounds somehow strange, no? Best, Matthias - Original Message - From: Naveen Jain nav...@intelius.com To: 'MexicoDoug' mexicod...@aim.com Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2011 3:22 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Martin Stefan Kicked out of IMCA for theirillegal behavior Doug, that was a long email but I will try to answer your questions with another long email. I am very new to the meteorite collection and just fell in love with them when I purchased my first set of these from Martin Horejsi. My experience with him was so pleasant that I just assumed that others in the meteorite community will be just like him. He didn‚Äôt want me to buy anything but asked me to learn about them before he would even consider selling them to me. I guess I should have known this since he is a professor by day and meteorite collector by night. After I spent 3 days learning about meteorites and their classification with him at an education event, he sent me home with the briefcase full of meteorites and told me to pay when I get home and think about it again. He told me that he will take anything and everything back if I ever decided that I have made a mistake in purchasing them. Back to Martin Altman and Stefan, it was a different experience. Martin will tell great story about each meteorite and kept suggesting to buy it. I was willing to look at these well described meteorites since I was assured of full refund if I return them within 3 weeks (their website clearly states that any customer can ask for full refund for any reasons within 30 days). They asked me to pay them full amount by wire (which should have been my first warning sign) before shipping them but they again assured me that I can return anything within 3 weeks. I contacted Martin back within hours of my receiving the meteorites to let him know that I plan to return 2 out of 9 meteorites because they didn‚Äôt look how I imagined from the picture and their description. I also did a bit of research on them and was not thrilled with their quality. I am not sure if the meteorites are fake but they are certainly very low quality for the premium price I paid for these. I have since gotten to know Greg Hupe Adam Hupe and Michael Farmer. They each have given me unconditional 30 days money back guarantee and I have really enjoyed working with them. I tried very hard to resolve the issue with Martin and Stefan but Stefan didn‚Äôt want to resolve anything and told me Martin has no authority to return anything but can only sell stuff on his behalf. I am still hoping that Meteorite community can put enough moral pressure on Stefan and Martin Altman to do the right and fair thing. Just to answer your question specifically, I wanted to return Lunar Kreep because it just doesn‚Äôt look right to me and it was never touched, polished or modified in any way. Martin had one Urelite that needed classification but Stefan didn‚Äôt want to slice the piece for classification so he hammer broke a piece to send for analyses. Martin suggested that they should polish the broken surface before sending it to me along with polishing one other green Lunar meteorite that desperately needed polishing. I simply agreed what Martin said he needed to do before shipping with these meteorites. Irrespective, I am not even returning the Urelite specimen that was polished anyway. I think it was simply a greed and large sum that blinded them of their morals and obligations. Stefan and Martin Altman finally decided to sell their soul for large sum of money. IMCA board tried very
Re: [meteorite-list] Alleged illegal behaviour
I didn't know there was a quality to a meteorite. A meteorite is a meteorite is a meteorite. They are what they are. We don't have cheap ones made in China, high quality ones made in Germany.Come on. Certainly there are prettier ones, neater ones, and odd ones but nowhere have I ever seen there could be a quality issue. Seems Walmart has ruined another industry, take back anything for no reason. -- Stuart McDaniel Lawndale, NC IMCA#9052 http://www.facebook.com/Stuart.McDaniel.No.1 Naveen Jain nav...@intelius.com wrote: = Andi, I was given unconditional guarantee to be able to return item within 3 weeks. I contacted them within hours of receiving the package. Each item was priced individually and I was offered approx. 12%-13% discount on the package of meteorites. IMCA looked at all these details when they offered 3 options to Martin Altman and Stefan to resolve the issues. Essentially, they adjusted the price of each item on pro-rated prices based on the discount percentage. Is there someone on the list who is willing to help the newcomer resolve this dispute with Stefan and Martin. IMCA board has looked at the complaint and facts and made the recommendation. I am comfortable with any of the 3 recommendation made by IMCA board. Any thoughts? naveen Naveen Jain Founder - Moon Express, Intelius, InfoSpace Board of Trustee - X Prize Foundation, Singularity University http://www.linkedin.com/in/naveenjainintelius From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of Andreas Gren Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2011 10:26 AM To: Mark's Meteorites Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Alleged illegal behaviour Hi Mark, you wrote, ... Nonetheless - as Farmer says, either they did or they didn't refuse to refund. IF they didn't (minus a reasonable handling deduction) then they're in the wrong. It's not necessarily that easy , if you arrange a deal with two centrepieces and some by-catch and the seller has reduced the prices of the by-catch dramatically to offer an interesting total; to give back the two centrepieces and ask for money back could be a misuse of any give back agreements Please note, I used the terms if and could, I'm just speculating. Best greetings Andi - -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] Im Auftrag von Mark's Meteorites Gesendet: Dienstag, 2. August 2011 18:05 An: Matthias Bärmann Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com; nav...@intelius.com; 'MexicoDoug' Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] Alleged illegal behaviour To me it sounds like someone has, at best, been naive and not done their homework. Caveat emptor applies when you're buying a pint of milk; it certainly applies if you're ponying up a quarter million bucks. A quarter million dollars on something, mail order, for something only viewed in photographs? For real? I think that this discussion should make people think carefully about their deals - both from whom they buy, and to whom they sell. Nonetheless - as Farmer says, either they did or they didn't refuse to refund. IF they didn't (minus a reasonable handling deduction) then they're in the wrong. Mark On 2 Aug 2011, at 15:19, Matthias Bärmann wrote: Mr. Jain wrote: I am very new to the meteorite collection ... 3 days learning about meteorites and their classification (...) He also wrote: I also did a bit of research on them and was not thrilled with their quality. I wanted to return Lunar Kreep because it just doesnâ.˙t look right to me (...) makes me think that what they sold me are either fakes or very low quality stuff (...) Sounds somehow strange, no? __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Long awaited Vesta Image link!
In the rotational video, it looks like it has been dragging on something, has a sort of groove all the way around. Groovy!! -- Stuart McDaniel Lawndale, NC IMCA#9052 http://www.facebook.com/Stuart.McDaniel.No.1 Sterling K. Webb sterling_k_w...@sbcglobal.net wrote: = Fellow Vestarians, Thanks, to Doug and Mike. http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/dawn/multimedia/pia14317.html Don't miss the earlier pages for pia14312 through pia14316, though they're not as big. Besides PIA14317, theree's a mosaic global map: http://www.nasa.gov/images/content/576333main_pia14318-full_full.jpg Go to the Multimedia page (link below): http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/dawn/multimedia/index.html where are three new images listed: http://www.nasa.gov/images/content/576355main_pia14322-full_full.jpg and http://www.nasa.gov/images/content/576355main_pia14323-full_full.jpg and http://www.nasa.gov/images/content/576355main_pia14324-full_full.jpg Not listed there (nor anywhere yet that I can find them listed) are these two additional images: False color image of Vesta (to separate compositional differences): http://www.nasa.gov/images/content/576532main_pia14325-full_full.jpg VIR-MS Visible InfraRed Mapping Spectrometer view: http://www.nasa.gov/images/content/576542main_pia14326-full_full.jpg The Vesta video showing rotation can be downloaded as an MP4 from here: http://www.nasa.gov/multimedia/videogallery/index.html?collection_id=65362media_id=104094441 Sterling K. Webb - - Original Message - From: MexicoDoug mexicod...@aim.com To: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Monday, August 01, 2011 1:12 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Long awaited Vesta Image link! http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/dawn/multimedia/pia14317.html Jaw dropping ... how many more times in our lifetimes will be see a large solar system object like this (maybe only Ceres, Pluto and Charon, if all goes well) Kindest wishes Doug PS can anyone tell me the name of that movie which had a male southern US narrator telling a story, can't remember if it was a Bonnie and Clyde type, perhaps bootlegging movie set a few decades ago in the hinterlands, but the narrator spoke of the full moon almost poetically and compared it to life ... how many times will you see a full moon, how few they really are; something like that. Its delivery made a great impression on me I never shook since I saw it with my Dad. __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite found in Xinjiang
No one had seen it before now??? -- Stuart McDaniel Lawndale, NC IMCA#9052 http://www.facebook.com/Stuart.McDaniel.No.1 Wadi Woreczko Jan - www.woreczko.eu e...@biol.uw.edu.pl wrote: = Ha As with China, it must be large ;-) http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/photo/2011-07/19/content_12932999.htm Best wishes, Woreczko __ Informacja programu ESET NOD32 Antivirus, wersja bazy sygnatur wirusow 6305 (20110718) __ Wiadomosc zostala sprawdzona przez program ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.pl lub http://www.eset.com __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] AD eBay auction, Tamdakht big, Ghubara, ureilite ..
Those are some awesome pieces! -- Stuart McDaniel Lawndale, NC IMCA#9052 http://www.facebook.com/Stuart.McDaniel.No.1 Tomasz Jakubowski illae...@wp.pl wrote: = Dear List Members, I put 4 auctions on eBay : http://shop.ebay.com/meteoritepoland/m.html?_trksid=p4340.l2562 Tamdakht (big a fresh specimen), big ureilite slice, great Ghubara huge slice (with nice texture) and NWA xxx specimen. All pieces can be seen on bigger photos and Videos (link on auction). Thanks for looking All the best Tomasz Jakubowski IMCA #2321 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] [IMCA] Important - Please Read
I just looked at several of his auctions and it seems he has removed the IMCA reference but it is funny, some of the ones he is selling were purchased THIS September. Have I slept through Sept or something?? -- Stuart McDaniel Lawndale, NC IMCA#9052 http://www.facebook.com/Stuart.McDaniel.No.1 Ken Newton ken.i...@gmail.com wrote: = Jason and Board Members, Jason, that is a slap in the face, thanks for the heads up. Board, Mr Scarborough is still using his IMCA number in at least one ebay auction (IMCA member 6135. ): http://cgi.ebay.com/270752039514 I only checked two of his very many auctions. (You can have ebay shut down auctions of persons pretending to be members) http://members.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewUserPageuserid=meteoritecollectorsorg Best, Ken On Wed, Jul 13, 2011 at 9:45 AM, jason utas jasonu...@gmail.com wrote: Hello All, Many of you know that a man named John/Bryan Scarborough was recently removed from the IMCA for selling meteorites that were analytically proven to be misrepresented. If you've never heard this before, please see the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com/msg98693.html What you might not know is that I personally took responsibility for (dis)proving the authenticity of his sales after noticing that much of what he was selling looked funny -- starting back in January 2010. Ultimately, a number of samples were sent directly from people who had purchased them from John/Bryan to a lab for analysis, and, as the above emails details, an Ash Creek turned out to be an H-chondrite, a fragment of Zunhua turned out to be indistinguishable from Tamdakht (Zunhua is an L-chondrite, not an H), and an iron that he'd been selling as Deport turned out to be what is most likely a Campo del Cielo. His explanations of how these mistakes had occurred were extremely dissatisfying; the IMCA board apparently thought as much, because the opted to remove him from the membership. The trouble is that someone, apparently, told him that I did much of the investigative work. How do I know this? Jeff Kuyken, on the IMCA board of directors, just informed me that John/Bryan has changed his ebay username to meteoritekid, my old internet alias. My ebay username is *not* meteoritekid. Please do not buy from anyone using the name meteoritekid on ebay. John/Bryan is attempting to impersonate me online in order to get back at me for having tracked his shady dealings down. I would not personally trust the authenticity of any specimen he sells. I am currently taking a geology field mapping course in Montana and do not have a working phone. When I return home in a few days, I will be pursuing this matter with ebay. If that does not work, I will pursue it legally. If anyone on here has experience with similar issues within ebay, I'd like whatever help I can get. - Do not buy from the ebay seller meteoritekid. It is not me, and John/Bryan has proven that he is willing to sell a wide variety of material that is misrepresented. Thank You, Jason [IMCA 6730] ___ IMCA mailing list i...@imcamail.de http://lists.imcamail.de/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/imca __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] 2011 MD Animation
Thanks Richard, that is pretty cool!! -- Stuart McDaniel Lawndale, NC IMCA#9052 http://www.facebook.com/Stuart.McDaniel.No.1 Richard Kowalski damoc...@yahoo.com wrote: = I got a few positional images of this object with our 1.5-m (60) on Mt. Lemmon last night, but Jure Skvarč at the Črni Vrh Observatory in Slovenia obtained one of the nicer time lapse animations of the asteroids motion against the background stars. He writes on his Youtube page: The images for this animation were taken using a 60-cm telescope from the Črni Vrh Observatory on the night of 26 July 2011. Each exposure was of 15 seconds. The telescope was tracking on the asteroid, changing the rate of tracking between exposures. The entire sequence lasted about 4h40m, during which 635 exposures were made. At the time the asteroid was less than 20 km from Earth. At the closest approach some 15 hours later the distance was about 2 km. 4 hours, 40 minutes of imaging the NEO until his dawn, compressed down to 43 seconds. Enjoy http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p-pv18xDWCY -- Richard Kowalski Full Moon Photography IMCA #1081 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] The Apollo Moon Rock Collection
Furthermore, I doubt if many Americans would be in favor of cutting up pieces of the Declaration of Indepence or chunks of the Liberty Bell to sell as high priced souvenirs, or sell off tracts of Yellowstone Park to reduce our nation's debt. Obama hasn't thought about that yet. :0 -- Stuart McDaniel Lawndale, NC IMCA#9052 http://www.facebook.com/Stuart.McDaniel.No.1 Carl Agee a...@unm.edu wrote: = Having been in charge of the Apollo Collection as well as the other collections at NASA Johnson Space Center (JSC) from 1998-2002, here is my take on this discussion. One of the main goals of curation at JSC is preserving the collection for posterity and for future study with instruments not yet imagined or by scientists not yet born. The Moon rocks are treated like a national treasure. As many of you may know, the curation protocols at JSC are the gold standard for extraterrestrial sample handling. For example, the collection is kept in high purity nitrogen, only materials restricted to of short list of aluminum, stainless steel, and Teflon are allow to touch the samples. The curation facility was built as a clean lab with positive air pressure, airlocks, and is operated by a highly trained staff. The Lunar Vault is built to withstand hurricanes, tornadoes, and floods -- and just to be on the safe side NASA has placed 15% of the collection at White Sands Test Facility, a few miles outside Las Cruces, New Mexico, locked away for safe keeping just in case of a catastrophic loss of the Lunar Lab in Houston. When people think about what a Mars Sample Return Lab design might look like, the first place they start from is the Lunar Sample Lab. Clearly, JSC does a fabulous job of handling, curating, and keeping the lunar samples safe, there is no museum or private collector in the world that comes close to Lunar Lab quality. However, the one thing that I think is missing from this facility is an equally spectacular public outreach component. Sure, the public can look at a few Moon rocks at museum displays here and there nationwide, but very few people ever get the privilege of being a visitor at the Lunar Lab. It is NOT open to the public. I think NASA, and JSC in particular, could enhance its image and boost public excitement and support for astromaterials research by somehow giving better public access to view these crown jewels in their laboratory setting. You may have guessed already that I'm not a big proponent of selling off the Moon Rocks to fund NASA missions, as a few people on the list have proposed. Even if Americans thought this was a good idea, I am pretty sure we would come up a few billion dollars short to do anything like a decent robotic Mars Sample Return. Furthermore, I doubt if many Americans would be in favor of cutting up pieces of the Declaration of Indepence or chunks of the Liberty Bell to sell as high priced souvenirs, or sell off tracts of Yellowstone Park to reduce our nation's debt. But I do think the Lunar Collection could be opened up to the public in away that would be beneficial to everyone, not the least to NASA itself. Carl Agee -- Carl B. Agee Director and Curator, Institute of Meteoritics Professor, Earth and Planetary Sciences MSC03 2050 University of New Mexico Albuquerque NM 87131-1126 Tel: (505) 750-7172 Fax: (505) 277-3577 Email: a...@unm.edu http://epswww.unm.edu/iom/pers/agee.html __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] The Apollo Moon Rock Collection
What all is included in the ANSMET collection, are they all ALH? -- Stuart McDaniel Lawndale, NC IMCA#9052 http://www.facebook.com/Stuart.McDaniel.No.1 Michael Gilmer meteoritem...@gmail.com wrote: = Hi Carl and List, Thanks for your perspective Carl. When framed in that context, selling the Apollo rocks does seem a bit silly. However, would the same Liberty Bell comparison hold true for ANSMET specimens? There must be some leftovers or crumbs from the ANSMET collection that would fetch a small fortune on the collector market. I'd pay a premium for micromounts from ANSMET. I didn't mean any disrespect towards the US, NASA, or science by suggesting that NASA should sell off a small portion of it's collection. And I agree that the proceeds from the sale would not be nearly enough to fund a space mission. But I think it could generate a useful amount of cash that could be put towards good purposes. I also agree that the Apollo and ANSMET collections should be more accessible to the public. Perhaps a permanent in-house display with a self-guided tour could generate a small amount of revenue - charge for admission and have a gift shop located by the entry/exit with tiny lucite-encased samples for sale, themed collector displays, and memorabilia (T-shirts, etc). Of course, it would have to be done tastefully and respectfully, so it would seem too commercial. This is surely a pipe-dream, but us laymen have to dream.. :) One more idea just occurred to me - sell one spot per year on the ANSMET team to the highest competent bidder. As it stands now, one has to be degreed to be considered (or be a well-recommended grad student). But if they would allow the advanced layman to bid for chance to join the team, I know I would register to bid in a heartbeat! Best regards, MikeG -- - Galactic Stone Ironworks - Meteorites Amber (Michael Gilmer) Website - http://www.galactic-stone.com Facebook - http://tinyurl.com/42h79my News Feed - http://www.galactic-stone.com/rss/126516 Twitter - http://twitter.com/galacticstone EOM - http://www.encyclopedia-of-meteorites.com/collection.aspx?id=1564 - On 6/27/11, Carl Agee a...@unm.edu wrote: Having been in charge of the Apollo Collection as well as the other collections at NASA Johnson Space Center (JSC) from 1998-2002, here is my take on this discussion. One of the main goals of curation at JSC is preserving the collection for posterity and for future study with instruments not yet imagined or by scientists not yet born. The Moon rocks are treated like a national treasure. As many of you may know, the curation protocols at JSC are the gold standard for extraterrestrial sample handling. For example, the collection is kept in high purity nitrogen, only materials restricted to of short list of aluminum, stainless steel, and Teflon are allow to touch the samples. The curation facility was built as a clean lab with positive air pressure, airlocks, and is operated by a highly trained staff. The Lunar Vault is built to withstand hurricanes, tornadoes, and floods -- and just to be on the safe side NASA has placed 15% of the collection at White Sands Test Facility, a few miles outside Las Cruces, New Mexico, locked away for safe keeping just in case of a catastrophic loss of the Lunar Lab in Houston. When people think about what a Mars Sample Return Lab design might look like, the first place they start from is the Lunar Sample Lab. Clearly, JSC does a fabulous job of handling, curating, and keeping the lunar samples safe, there is no museum or private collector in the world that comes close to Lunar Lab quality. However, the one thing that I think is missing from this facility is an equally spectacular public outreach component. Sure, the public can look at a few Moon rocks at museum displays here and there nationwide, but very few people ever get the privilege of being a visitor at the Lunar Lab. It is NOT open to the public. I think NASA, and JSC in particular, could enhance its image and boost public excitement and support for astromaterials research by somehow giving better public access to view these crown jewels in their laboratory setting. You may have guessed already that I'm not a big proponent of selling off the Moon Rocks to fund NASA missions, as a few people on the list have proposed. Even if Americans thought this was a good idea, I am pretty sure we would come up a few billion dollars short to do anything like a decent robotic Mars Sample Return. Furthermore, I doubt if many Americans would be in favor of cutting up pieces of the Declaration of Indepence or chunks of the Liberty Bell to sell as high priced souvenirs, or sell off tracts of Yellowstone Park to reduce our nation's debt. But I do think the Lunar Collection could be
Re: [meteorite-list] Tile Glows
I would love to get my hands on a tile also!! -- Stuart McDaniel Lawndale, NC IMCA#9052 http://www.facebook.com/Stuart.McDaniel.No.1 MexicoDoug mexicod...@aim.com wrote: = Richard, James, very cool ... and especially being a witness of history in the making for you guys ... Does anyone know if these tiles show any signs of fusion (Is there evidence of a fusion crust in this material or is is so structurally pure and aerodynamically designed that a tile in proper service never reaches a temperature for that to occur) as they wear out, or how exactly material disappears as they wear out in old age (vs. a defect)? Best wishes Doug -Original Message- From: James Beauchamp falco...@sbcglobal.net To: cdtuc...@cox.net; 'Michael Gilmer' meteoritem...@gmail.com; 'MexicoDoug' mexicod...@aim.com; John.L.Cabassi j...@cabassi.net; Richard Montgomery rickm...@earthlink.net Cc: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Mon, Jun 27, 2011 12:00 am Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Tile Glows Yes, I remember the demonstration repeated many times on broadcast TV prior to the first launch. About ten seconds after it was orange, he reached over and picked it up. --- On Sun, 6/26/11, Richard Montgomery rickm...@earthlink.net wrote: From: Richard Montgomery rickm...@earthlink.net Subject: [meteorite-list] Tile Glows To: cdtuc...@cox.net, 'Michael Gilmer' meteoritem...@gmail.com, 'MexicoDoug' mexicod...@aim.com, John.L.Cabassi j...@cabassi.net Cc: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Sunday, June 26, 2011, 10:50 PM Long before the first Shuttle mission, I recall being somewhere at a party where some fella pulled out of his back-pack what he called a Heat-Tile...and proceeded to give a demonstration: he literally held the tile in his hand and fired it with an acetylene torch. The torch-side glowed red-hot and he still held it in his hand. Then the Space Shuttle. Back then (1978-maybe80???) I mention this because I witnessed it in private hands before anyone publically knew of the technologyshedding some light upon 'widely gurded secrets.' Back then I was into frisbee freestyle and remembering my undergraduate degree was sort of importantwasn't taking many notes. Pondering before-factors and more, Richard Montgomery - Original Message - From: cdtuc...@cox.net To: 'Michael Gilmer' meteoritem...@gmail.com; 'MexicoDoug' mexicod...@aim.com; John.L.Cabassi j...@cabassi.net Cc: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Sunday, June 26, 2011 9:50 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Moon Dust Blaine Reed had an actual shuttle tile in his room at the Gem show. I don't recall the price. This was a real actual tile with numbers on it indicating where it went on the shuttle not just the material used to make real tiles as indicated on this web site. Blaine's was significantly more expensive because it was real but, I don't think it was flown in space. I was able to hold it. It weighs almost nothing. It feels like you are holding chalk, NOT ceramic tile. Carl Meteoritemax . -- Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for dinner. Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote. John.L.Cabassi j...@cabassi.net wrote: http://www.thespaceshop.com/shuttilin.html -Original Message- From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of Michael Gilmer Sent: Sunday, June 26, 2011 8:20 AM To: MexicoDoug Cc: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Moon Dust Hi Doug and List, Doug - it is great to see you posting again. I have missed your insights. :) They are selling heat tiles from the shuttles at KSC? I didn't know that, and I want one! I've been meaning to acquire some more space-related items - aerogel, heat shield tiles, etc. Do they have a website where I can order the tiles, or do I need to visit the gift shop in person? Best regards, MikeG PS - is there somewhere online to buy the Russian tiles also? -- - Galactic Stone Ironworks - Meteorites Amber (Michael Gilmer) Website - http://www.galactic-stone.com Facebook - http://tinyurl.com/42h79my News Feed - http://www.galactic-stone.com/rss/126516 Twitter - http://twitter.com/galacticstone EOM - http://www.encyclopedia-of-meteorites.com/collection.aspx?id=1564 - On 6/25/11, MexicoDoug mexicod...@aim.com wrote: JG wrote to MG: What law are you talking about? Ditto! A fact-supported discussion would be so much nicer. It is my understanding that when Apollo lost its funding, oodles of relics entered the private domain and there wasn't much ado about it - rather, a tacit acceptance and a party atmosphere pervaded in the wake of
Re: [meteorite-list] Saluting Michael Gilmel
I second that...hip hip hurray!! -- Stuart McDaniel Lawndale, NC IMCA#9052 http://www.facebook.com/Stuart.McDaniel.No.1 David Gunning davidgunn...@fairpoint.net wrote: = Hi Mike, Couple of comments and a question. First, foremost and most importantly, I'm glad you and your finger are on the mend. Your unfortunate experience reminds me of why I don't trust car jacks and carry around a small portable floor jack, whenever and wherever I drive. Secondly, the recent posting of your offered inventory is very helpful to someone such as myself, a retiree subsisting on a modest fixed income. It really permits to me gather my wits about me and carefully determine and select the meteoritic products that most catch my fancy and benefit my circumstances. You are a credit to your profession and a first rate dealer and marketeer. All meteorite dealers, from my view, would do well to emulate your business model. Finally, I'm developing a specific gravity data base for meteorite samples. I'm wondering if you can provide total weights of some of your meteorite micromounts upon specific request? Mostly I require samples of no less than a carat for accurate specific gravity determinations. Thanks for your time, energy and business acumen! With best wishes for your speedy recovery. David Gunning __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Injured self today - will be late on emails
Damn bro, when it rains it pours!!! -- Stuart McDaniel Lawndale, NC IMCA#9052 http://www.facebook.com/Stuart.McDaniel.No.1 Michael Gilmer meteoritem...@gmail.com wrote: = Hi all, quick note. cut part of finger off today - not saw related. right hand is messed up. typing with left hand. i will be slow answering emails today, batch of orders will be late until tomorrow. please understand and accept my apologies. bled like stuck pig. piece of finger was laying on ground. oddly, no pain. go figure. lol never dull moment at galactic-stone... lol best regards mikeg __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Injured self today - will be late on emails
Keep it elevated above your heart and it won't throb so much. -- Stuart McDaniel Lawndale, NC IMCA#9052 http://www.facebook.com/Stuart.McDaniel.No.1 Michael Gilmer meteoritem...@gmail.com wrote: = Hi all, I'm getting better at one-handed typing. LOL I was trying to change the flat tire on my crippled car (blown head gasket) and my hand slipped and hit a sharp edge on the backside of the wheel cover. I didn't feel anything, but looked down and saw a 1cm chunk of meat from my forefinger laying on the ground, followed by the inevitable heavy bleeding. It was a slicing motion which shaved off the meat on fleshy-side of my finger where the fingerprint is. It's not the type of wound that can be stitched and the piece is not big enough to sew back on. It didn't go to the bone thankfully. No point in seeing the doctor because he will only do what I already did - clean wound, apply medicine, wrap it up, and give me antibiotics (which I already have some). Besides, I don't have real medical insurance, so my only recourse would be a 10-hour wait at the emergency room to get the same treatment I just gave myself. Can't afford the fee for a walk-in clinic either. It's throbbing like a mofo now because I have it wrapped so tight to stop the bleeding. Week of epic bad luck - car blew head gasket, car got flat tire, jeweler scale broke, one of our cats died from feline leukemia, and now I slice off a chunk of my finger. It's going to be difficult to prepare micromounts and pack orders, so I will be enlisting my wife later to do that for me. She is going to get a crash course in making up micromounts. I only posted this to the list so that the people who ordered stuff from me will understand the slight delay in getting these orders out. Now, one thing a doctor could possibly do is give me some pain medicine, but as they say - no pain no gain, no agony no braggony. Just gotta put my big-boy pants on and suck it up buttercup. LOL Best regards, Stumpy McGee - Galactic Stone Ironworks - Meteorites Amber (Michael Gilmer) Website - http://www.galactic-stone.com Facebook - http://www.facebook.com/pages/Galactic-Stone-Ironworks/218849894809686 News Feed - http://www.galactic-stone.com/rss/126516 Twitter - http://twitter.com/galacticstone EOM - http://www.encyclopedia-of-meteorites.com/collection.aspx?id=1564 - On 5/25/11, Dennis Miller astror...@hotmail.com wrote: Sorry to hear that! There are some positives though. Now you only have to clip 9 finger nails. Some will ask, Did you use distilled water or alcohol while cutting? Put the tip on eBay! Please excuse the sick humor! Truly though, hope you recover fine. Our hearts and prayers go out to those folks in Joplin.. Dennis Miller Date: Wed, 25 May 2011 12:14:13 -0400 From: meteoritem...@gmail.com To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] Injured self today - will be late on emails Hi all, quick note. cut part of finger off today - not saw related. right hand is messed up. typing with left hand. i will be slow answering emails today, batch of orders will be late until tomorrow. please understand and accept my apologies. bled like stuck pig. piece of finger was laying on ground. oddly, no pain. go figure. lol never dull moment at galactic-stone... lol best regards mikeg __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list -- __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Injured self today - will be late on emails
Yeah..you could sell that tip as an alien part that was attached to a meteorite!! -- Stuart McDaniel Lawndale, NC IMCA#9052 http://www.facebook.com/Stuart.McDaniel.No.1 Dennis Miller astror...@hotmail.com wrote: = Sorry to hear that! There are some positives though. Now you only have to clip 9 finger nails. Some will ask, Did you use distilled water or alcohol while cutting? Put the tip on eBay! Please excuse the sick humor! Truly though, hope you recover fine. Our hearts and prayers go out to those folks in Joplin.. Dennis Miller Date: Wed, 25 May 2011 12:14:13 -0400 From: meteoritem...@gmail.com To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] Injured self today - will be late on emails Hi all, quick note. cut part of finger off today - not saw related. right hand is messed up. typing with left hand. i will be slow answering emails today, batch of orders will be late until tomorrow. please understand and accept my apologies. bled like stuck pig. piece of finger was laying on ground. oddly, no pain. go figure. lol never dull moment at galactic-stone... lol best regards mikeg __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] New person on the list
Stubby Gilmerwonder if he is kin to Happy Gilmer?? (oh wait that was Gilmore) Got a nice ring though...:-) Hang in there bud!!! -- Stuart McDaniel Lawndale, NC IMCA#9052 http://www.facebook.com/Stuart.McDaniel.No.1 Michael Gilmer meteoritem...@gmail.com wrote: = LOL! On 5/25/11, pshu...@messengersfromthecosmos.com pshu...@messengersfromthecosmos.com wrote: List We have a new guy on the list. His name is Stubby. He earned that nickname when he chopped off a piece of his finger yesterday. Everybody say Hey to Stubby. Pete -- - Galactic Stone Ironworks - Meteorites Amber (Michael Gilmer) Website - http://www.galactic-stone.com Facebook - http://www.facebook.com/pages/Galactic-Stone-Ironworks/218849894809686 News Feed - http://www.galactic-stone.com/rss/126516 Twitter - http://twitter.com/galacticstone EOM - http://www.encyclopedia-of-meteorites.com/collection.aspx?id=1564 - __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Georgia Fireball
Any report of anything making it to the ground?? -- Stuart McDaniel Lawndale, NC IMCA#9052 http://www.facebook.com/Stuart.McDaniel.No.1 John.L.Cabassi j...@cabassi.net wrote: = G'Day List Good video on the Georgia event. http://spaceweather.com/ Cheers John Cabassi __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] correction to non-magnetic meteorite question
Also do not let 2 rare earth magnets slam together, I have had them shatter like glass. They can be very unexpectedly dangerous. They are kinda like a snake, they will get you when you least expect it!! -- Stuart McDaniel Lawndale, NC IMCA#9052 http://www.facebook.com/Stuart.McDaniel.No.1 Michael Gilmer meteoritem...@gmail.com wrote: = Hi David, When cutting meteorites (or suspected meteorites), use distilled water only has a saw coolant/lubricant. Using anything else invites contamination and instability in the specimen. I own a large N52 rare earth magnet. It's quite powerful, and small metal objects will fly across the table and stick it from several inches away. This type of magnet will detect the smallest metal content in a specimen that small magnets will miss. However, be careful, the larger magnets can be dangerous if you hand or fingers get caught between the magnet and a metal object. Not to mention, keep it away from your laptop and grandpa's pacemaker. The largest rare earth magnets are so powerful, they will attract iron-enriched food items, like dog kibbles! Do you have any photos of your specimen, or did you post them already and I missed it? Best regards, MikeG - Galactic Stone Ironworks - Meteorites Amber (Michael Gilmer) Website - http://www.galactic-stone.com Facebook - http://www.facebook.com/pages/Galactic-Stone-Ironworks/218849894809686 News Feed - http://www.galactic-stone.com/rss/126516 Twitter - http://twitter.com/galacticstone EOM - http://www.encyclopedia-of-meteorites.com/collection.aspx?id=1564 - On 5/24/11, David Gunning davidgunn...@fairpoint.net wrote: Thanks to all who responded to my non-magnetic meteorite question. With a total weight of 27.37 grams the specimen in question has a direct measured specific gravity of 2.59. This would seem to rule-out both basalt (s.g. 2.7-3.1) and Tatahouine, a Diogenite with a specific gravity range of at about 3.30 to 3.47. In rechecking the magnetic value, for the first time with a super magnet hanging from a string and carefully bringing the specimen to the magnet, I can see there is a ever-so-slight magnetic attraction which I had not previously noticed and detected. This is an important lesson for me: ALWAYS DOUBLE CHECK MAGNETIC VALUES WITH A SUPER MAGNET HANGING FROM A THREAD! Also rechecked my Tatahouine specimen and, LO and Behold, this, too, has an ever-so-slight magnetic attraction. You might want to take note of this info, Pete at pshu...@messengersfromthecosmos.com. The s.g and slight magnetic attraction of this specimen suggests that this may be a type CM Carbonaceous Chondrite, according to the printed values published in the 2002 paper by Britt and Consolmagno, I suppose. I'm thinking of cutting this specimen. Anyone on the list able to suggest the preferred lubricant to minimize potential contamination issues? Again, thanks to everyone who took time to offer their insights on my little mystery stone. I wouldn't have had a clue, otherwise! Best wishes to all, David Gunning __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list -- __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Nice space junk
$3000.00 bolt...yikes!! -- Stuart McDaniel Lawndale, NC IMCA#9052 http://www.facebook.com/Stuart.McDaniel.No.1 Darren Garrison cyna...@charter.net wrote: = Anyone looking for a fusion-crusted Vostok bolt? http://historical.ha.com/common/view_item.php?Sale_No=6052LotIdNo=56026#Photo __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite??? Trench Crater Created in family lawn NJ, USA 6MAY2011
Small? That would have to have been a pretty big one!! Maybe it was an underground gas pocket or something. Besides...where's the meteorite?? -- Stuart McDaniel Lawndale, NC IMCA#9052 http://www.facebook.com/Stuart.McDaniel.No.1 drtanuki drtan...@yahoo.com wrote: = Dear List, This event has not been confirmed by any meteorite experts. Explosives have been ruled out by police. No meteorite found. Seismograph indicates event at 11:35 am (may not be related?). Seems to be a mystery fishy meteorite to me. Anyone else smell fish? http://lunarmeteoritehunters.blogspot.com/2011/05/nj-meteorite-crater-claimed-created.html Best Regards, Dirk Ross...Tokyo __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] New fall - Poland
So it fell on 4/30?? -- Stuart McDaniel Lawndale, NC IMCA#9052 http://www.facebook.com/Stuart.McDaniel.No.1 Galactic Stone Ironworks meteoritem...@gmail.com wrote: = Hi Folks! And the first fall of 2011! :) Are there any early guesses as to the type of the meteorite? (chondrite, achondrite, etc) And I suppose that Soltmany will be the name? Best regards, MikeG --- Galactic Stone Ironworks - Meteorites Amber Website - http://www.galactic-stone.com Facebook - http://www.facebook.com/galacticstone News Feed - http://www.galactic-stone.com/rss/126516 Twitter - http://twitter.com/galacticstone EOM - http://www.encyclopedia-of-meteorites.com/collection.aspx?id=1564 On 5/4/11, karmaka karm...@email.de wrote: Hello Wadi Woreczko, great news indeed. You had to wait 17 years for another Polish fall. CONGRATULATIONS ! Thank you for letting us know. Me too, I'm looking forward to hearing and seeing more about the fall. Best regards Martin -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: Regine Petersen fips_br...@yahoo.de Gesendet: 04.05.2011 12:42:54 An: e...@biol.uw.edu.pl, meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com, Matthias Bärmann majbaerm...@web.de Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] New fall - Poland And such a pretty place it fell on. Congratulations. Look forward to hearing more, too. Regine --- Matthias Bärmann majbaerm...@web.de schrieb am Mi, 4.5.2011: Von: Matthias Bärmann majbaerm...@web.de Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] New fall - Poland An: e...@biol.uw.edu.pl, meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Datum: Mittwoch, 4. Mai, 2011 11:45 Uhr Great news, Wadi Woreczko, thank you and congratulations! You're lucky guys indeed, receiving the meteorite inmidst of the village Soltmany more or less on a silver-tablet :-) - one positive aspect of hammers. Wish you all the best for the following procedure, and looking forward to the documentation, best regards, Matthias - Original Message - From: _Woreczko - eBay e...@biol.uw.edu.pl To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2011 10:55 AM Subject: [meteorite-list] New fall - Poland Dear List Members, A new fall has just occurred in Poland: a hammer! Here is some information about the circumstanses of the fall: The meteorite fell on 30 April at 6 a.m. in Soltmany villige, near the town of Gizycko. The ~1kg stone hit the roof of a building and was discovered broken into a few pieces. This information about the fall comes from a Mr. Roman who called Andrzej Pilski from Frombork Astronomical Observatory. Andrzej Pilski immediately asked Woreczko and Wadi to go to the fall location, take photos, and ask eyewitnesses for reports, as well as to see the stone and obtain a sample for analysis. The classification will be done by professor T. Przylibski from the Wroclaw University of Technology. Frombork Observatory wants to buy meteorite for their museum. Best regards Wadi Woreczko ___ NOCC, http://nocc.sourceforge.net -- This email was Anti Virus checked by Astaro Security Gateway. http://www.astaro.com __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Hinweis von ESET Smart Security, Signaturdatenbank-Version 6092 (20110503) __ E-Mail wurde geprüft mit ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list -- __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Re: [meteorite-list] Impact Question
Thanks guys for the answers but let's keep it peaceful here, I wasn't trying to start a pissing contest. Sterling, I appreciate the detailed answer and that certainly explains alot. I was only referring to Chixalub becasue it was on TV and it was big. We could be talking about ANY impact of that size, nothing specific. My specific question was where the fire from an impact came from. I realize now about the heat energy created is great enough to ignite a fire unlike a bullet. Though I do know a bullet creates a certain amount of heat energy upon impact, enough to melt steel. I guess I was looking at it in too simple of terms.i.e. if I drop a rock at 40,000ft/sec what would make it ignite on impact. Didn't seen to me a rock hitting the ground should ignite, but now I see there are many other factors that come into play. -- Stuart McDaniel Lawndale, NC IMCA#9052 http://www.facebook.com/Stuart.McDaniel.No.1 Barrett barret...@comcast.net wrote: = Dear Mr. Sterling K. Webb, Simple questions usually dictate a simple answer, which is what I gave, and is essentially correct. Unlike you, I wasn't nit-picking. If you want to nit-pick, I can do that also. There is no such thing as a perfect conversion when it comes to energy/matter conversion, not even with the so-called BIG BANG. To nit-pick, your statement: Plasma ball, a certain temperature, a certain energy -- that's the whole story, because that's all there is left. Is incorrect as it assumes a perfect conversion. This simply isn't true in the context of the question he asked. Simple evidence that your statement isn't so is the worldwide iridium deposition at the K/T Boundary is directly attributed to the event cited in the original question- Chixalub impact Our (mankinds) best attempt at nuclear conversion is only a few percent of the available fusionable material. Which this is a good thing or the somewhat wrongful name for the HYDROGEN BOMB would have eliminated all life on earth when first tested, as was feared by many. (which would have made the original question, my answer and your uncalled-for drival a moot point as we wouldn't be here for it) Your over-reactive reply to my answer is why many people on lists don't get involved in answering questions. For the most part your reply was technically sound and eloquent, but the attitude Let's get our physics straight. I feel was uncalled for, offensive and downright nitpicking. For his original question, bringing (Entropy? Don't ask! is totally uncalled for, demeaning and poor usage of () marks as you left the closing ) off. NITPICKING huh? ENTROPY as part of your answer IS incorrect as he asked a SIMPLE question, not a technical one. I could keep going, but 'Nuff said -Barrett -Original Message- From: Sterling K. Webb [mailto:sterling_k_w...@sbcglobal.net] Sent: Monday, April 25, 2011 12:28 AM To: Barrett; 'Stuart McDaniel'; 'meteorite list' Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Impact Question Stuart, Barrett, List, Let's get our physics straight. The mechanisms being talked about here: burning from entry and inertia... travel[ing] into the earth are missing the point. These are not causes, but rather effects. All isolated, disconnected bodies have a certain amount of energy in them. A small asteroid traveling through space has energy that can be described in many way depending on what other body you reference it to. All bodies in free motion in a field, like a gravitational field, have a potential energy determined by their position and their motion. Imagine you are standing in your backyard with a nice chunk of rock in your hand. Motionless in your hand, held up by a force from your muscles equal to the Earth's gravitational pull, it has no kinetic energy at all, because it isn't moving. But it does have potential energy. It you were to release it, that rock would move under the invisible influence of the mysterious gravity field that we all take for granted because we've lived in it all our lives. It would start to fall... It would speed up as it fell and acquire an increasing amount of kinetic energy, more the faster it went. Oddly, its total energy wouldn't change. No, its potential energy would decrease as its kinetic energy increased because it was getting closer to the center of the gravitational field, a position of less potential energy. And the total energy of the rock, the sum of its potential and kinetic energy would be constant, unchanging. Dropping rocks is not that exciting, so let's throw that rock straight up with all your strength, as high as you can toss it. It's going very fast when it leaves your hand, but as it rises and gets further away from the center of the Earth's force field of gravity, it goes slower and slower. Its potential energy is increasing from its new position at the expense of its declining kinetic energy. Finally, all the energy you gave the rock from your muscles will be transformed into potential
Re: [meteorite-list] Hypothetical launch question
Still sounds fishy to me. I don't see how it hit the roof hard enought to make plaster fall from concussion 2.5' away and didn't make a hole?? Concussion felt 2.5' away that is enought to do damage is a pretty strong force. Also looks like a lump of coal to me -- Stuart McDaniel Lawndale, NC IMCA#9052 http://www.facebook.com/Stuart.McDaniel.No.1 bill kies parkforest...@hotmail.com wrote: = This guy wasn't as starry eyed as others I've met. Just a family man in the suburbs trying to figure out what the heck happened. It sure looks like something whacked his house. He said the damage to the ceiling was caused by the concussion to the roof above. I'm not sure what kind of roofing system he had installed. The roof is typical of an 80 year old frame house. He said it was just redone with some sort of rubber boot. A premium ice and water shield I'd guess, not that it matters. Here are some pics with with a diagram he drew. Just another odd story. http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y249/razor_wire/Lombard3.jpg http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y249/razor_wire/Lombard2.jpg http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y249/razor_wire/Lombard1.jpg http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y249/razor_wire/Ceiling.jpg http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y249/razor_wire/LombDiagram.jpg Thanks for the input. I'll pass it along. __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] For your enjoyment
OMG!! WoW!!! That is awesome. -- Stuart McDaniel Lawndale, NC IMCA#9052 http://www.facebook.com/Stuart.McDaniel.No.1 Shawn Alan photoph...@yahoo.com wrote: = Listers Feast your eyes on a 2.57 gram Nakhla, crusted from the British Museum. Courtesy by The Count http://www.flickr.com/photos/48262799@N03/5617680275/ Shawn Alan IMCA 1633 eBaystore http://shop.ebay.com/photophlow/m.html __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Hypothetical launch question
Sounds fishy to me. Lorton was way less then that and it went THROUGH the roof. I don't believe there is ANY way an 8lb rock at terminal velocity wouldn't go through a roof. -- Stuart McDaniel Lawndale, NC IMCA#9052 http://www.facebook.com/Stuart.McDaniel.No.1 bill kies parkforest...@hotmail.com wrote: = I had an interesting call from a gentleman in Lombard Illinois. He has an 8 pound rock that bounced off his roof. After careful examination, I explained that it was probably not a meteorite but that it wasn't my place to discount the possibility entirely. I suggested he have a piece sliced and polished since he was so determined to know for sure. The question of how this rock got there is still kind of interesting. It did quite a bit of damage to his roof and ceiling but it didn't penetrate the old roof. I suggested, to muted ears, that a beast that size would have easily crashed through had it been falling at terminal velocity. There are three railroad lines near his home. Can anyone imagine how an ore car might launch an eight pound rock 5 blocks? Bill __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Hypothetical launch question
That was what I was thinking or a big sling shot or maybe even a tater-gun/cannon. -- Stuart McDaniel Lawndale, NC IMCA#9052 http://www.facebook.com/Stuart.McDaniel.No.1 Dan Wray daniel_w...@comcast.net wrote: = Check with the local teenagers, think trebuchet. Dan - Original Message - From: Michael Gilmer meteoritem...@gmail.com To: actionshoot...@carolina.rr.com Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2011 7:41 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Hypothetical launch question Hi Stuart and Bill, I tend to agree with Stuart on this one. Although, the damage done would depend on several factors, including the angle and speed of the descent. The type of roof would make a difference also. The roof of an industrial or hardened structure might resist penetration, but I think a typical residential or commercial roof would be penetrated to great effect by an 8-pound meteorite. However unlikely, it could have fallen from the wheel well of an airplane. It could have also been thrown by a large wood chipper operating a block away. Also, one cannot discount the power of drunken hooligans who like to cause damage for no logical reason. With meteorite hammer falls being so rare, there are a multitude of possible explanations that are more likely, even though some scenarios might seem far-fetched. Strange things happen. If there were no reports of a bolide in the region, then the meteorite theory becomes even more improbable. Best regards, MikeG -- Mike Gilmer - Galactic Stone Ironworks Meteorites Website - http://www.galactic-stone.com Facebook - http://www.facebook.com/galacticstone News Feed - http://www.galactic-stone.com/rss/126516 Twitter - http://twitter.com/galacticstone EOM - http://www.encyclopedia-of-meteorites.com/collection.aspx?id=1564 --- On 4/13/11, actionshoot...@carolina.rr.com actionshoot...@carolina.rr.com wrote: Sounds fishy to me. Lorton was way less then that and it went THROUGH the roof. I don't believe there is ANY way an 8lb rock at terminal velocity wouldn't go through a roof. -- Stuart McDaniel Lawndale, NC IMCA#9052 http://www.facebook.com/Stuart.McDaniel.No.1 bill kies parkforest...@hotmail.com wrote: = I had an interesting call from a gentleman in Lombard Illinois. He has an 8 pound rock that bounced off his roof. After careful examination, I explained that it was probably not a meteorite but that it wasn't my place to discount the possibility entirely. I suggested he have a piece sliced and polished since he was so determined to know for sure. The question of how this rock got there is still kind of interesting. It did quite a bit of damage to his roof and ceiling but it didn't penetrate the old roof. I suggested, to muted ears, that a beast that size would have easily crashed through had it been falling at terminal velocity. There are three railroad lines near his home. Can anyone imagine how an ore car might launch an eight pound rock 5 blocks? Bill __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list -- __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Fwd: BS In The NYT: Black Market Trinkets From Space
I can see it. -- Stuart McDaniel Lawndale, NC IMCA#9052 http://www.facebook.com/Stuart.McDaniel.No.1 wahlpe...@aol.com wrote: = Hey Sonny - could you do me a favor and post this to the meteorite list? I keep trying but it ain't showin' up. Cheers, Marc --- Howdy all I can't exactly label myself esteemed but I'll say a few words... The short version is, I have a lot more respect for Ralph Harvey than I do for the NYT. His quote in that article looks like the sort of thing that gets cherry-picked for effect. Yes, there are meteorites that are bought and sold illegally, and that's bad. There are also a hell of a lot of meteorites in research collections that would be rusting away in a desert somewhere if it weren't for collectors. That's good. I have no doubt that Ralph is fully aware of both sides of the argument, and I highly doubt that he intended to label all meteorite collection everywhere as a flaming travesty against all of humanity, the majority of puppies, and most unicorns everywhere. Here's another recent article that makes a point pertinent to this discussion (before it loses track and goes Fox-bashing), namely that science reporting has taken a sharp decrease in quality lately as the major media outlets have done away with dedicated science writers: http://tinyurl.com/3llqgay Recent stories on life in CI meteorites, natural atomic bomb blasts on Mars, and now this story are symptoms of a bigger problem, namely the lack of well-informed treatment of science issues by the major media outlets. Science stories are increasingly handled by writers who are looking for high-impact, wow-factor news items as opposed to lower-key but better-informed articles by science journalism professionals. I can say from my own experience that it is rather frustrating to attend conferences where I see all manner of well thought-out, interesting research presented, and then to turn around and see little more than sensationalistic crap wind up front and center in the major media. That's not good for anyone - the really interesting stuff never reaches a wider audience, and the public winds up thinking that scientists waste their time and tax dollars on embarrassing nonsense like the examples I stated above. I think that's the effect we're seeing in this NYT article at least in part, and while it is unfortunate it doesn't surprise me much. Cheers, Marc Fries On Apr 4, 2011, at 12:51 PM, m...@mhmeteorites.com wrote: Perhaps one of the many esteemed researchers on this list would be kind enough to write a rebuttal. Matt Matt Morgan Mile High Meteorites http://www.mhmeteorites.com P.O. Box 151293 Lakewood, CO 80215 -Original Message- From: Yinan Wang veom...@gmail.com Sender: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2011 14:44:02 To: Meteorite-listmeteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] BS In The NYT: Black Market Trinkets From Space For those who are inclined to do so, you can certainly write a letter to the editor which may be published in the Opinions page of the NY times as a response: http://www.nytimes.com/content/help/site/editorial/letters/letters.html?ref=letters -YvW On Mon, Apr 4, 2011 at 2:30 PM, Meteorites USA e...@meteoritesusa.com wrote: This is one of the most sensationalized, biased, uninformed, and skewed article I've ever read on NYT's website regarding meteorites. Mainly the article focuses on the Gebel Kamil iron meteorite, however it paints a grim picture and tries to draw a connection to all meteorites implying that the private market is somehow damaging the science. Black Market Trinkets From Space: http://www.nytimes.com/2011/04/05/science/05meteorite.html Quote: Popular or not, the meteorites were taboo. In Egypt and elsewhere, scientists say, it is illegal without a permit to remove meteorites from a country. Quote: The scientists say they have relatively few samples compared with the booming illicit sales. Quote: Dr. Harvey of Case Western Reserve said the quandary applied to the scientific community as a whole. The rampant looting of meteorite sites and skyrocketing prices for the fragments, he said, “dramatically reduce who can get samples to do the research. Quote: The black market has exploded in size mainly because of a rush of new meteorites arriving from North Africa and the Arabian Peninsula. Quote: The collectors association, founded in 2004 in Nevada, now has hundreds of members around the globe. And while some traders deal in legitimate exports, many do not. One buyer expressed remorse after reading about scientific angst over the thriving market. “I’m very ashamed,” the buyer wrote on a blog. “I’m surely a part of the problem. This article is irresponsible and borderline yellow journalism from the NYT. They should be ashamed for running such a biased and uninformed story.
Re: [meteorite-list] NYT NEWS FLASH: Meteorite Looter caught red-handed!!
Oh my eyes..where is the Clorox -- Stuart McDaniel Lawndale, NC IMCA#9052 http://www.facebook.com/Stuart.McDaniel.No.1 Adam Hupe raremeteori...@yahoo.com wrote: = Sounds like a job for Captain Chondrite! http://themeteoritesite.com/CaptainChondrite.jpg If he can't catch this perpetrator, nobody can! __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Scientists Find New Type Of Mineral In Historic Meteorite (Wassonite - Yamato 691)
Interesting -- Stuart McDaniel Lawndale, NC IMCA#9052 http://www.facebook.com/Stuart.McDaniel.No.1 Michael Gilmer meteoritem...@gmail.com wrote: = All sales of Wassonite-bearing meteorites are hereby suspended until further notice. ;) -- -- Mike Gilmer - Galactic Stone Ironworks Meteorites Website - http://www.galactic-stone.com Facebook - http://www.facebook.com/galacticstone News Feed - http://www.galactic-stone.com/rss/126516 Twitter - http://twitter.com/galacticstone EOM - http://www.encyclopedia-of-meteorites.com/collection.aspx?id=1564 --- On 4/5/11, Ron Baalke baa...@zagami.jpl.nasa.gov wrote: April 5, 2011 Dwayne C. Brown Headquarters, Washington 202-358-1726 dwayne.c.br...@nasa.gov William Jeffs Johnson Space Center, Houston 281-483-5111 william.p.je...@nasa.gov RELEASE: 11-098 SCIENTISTS FIND NEW TYPE OF MINERAL IN HISTORIC METEORITE HOUSTON -- NASA and co-researchers from the United States, South Korea and Japan have found a new mineral named Wassonite in one of the most historically significant meteorites recovered in Antarctica in December 1969. The new mineral was discovered within the meteorite officially designated Yamato 691 enstatite chondrite. The meteorite was discovered the same year as other landmark meteorites Allende and Murchison and the return of the first Apollo lunar samples. The study of meteorites helps define our understanding of the formation and history of the solar system. The meteorite likely may have originated from an asteroid orbiting between Mars and Jupiter. Wassonite is among the tiniest, yet most important, minerals identified in the 4.5-billion-year-old sample. The research team, headed by NASA space scientist Keiko Nakamura-Messenger, added the mineral to the list of 4,500 officially approved by the International Mineralogical Association. Wassonite is a mineral formed from only two elements, sulfur and titanium, yet it possesses a unique crystal structure that has not been previously observed in nature, said Nakamura-Messenger. In 1969, members of the Japanese Antarctic Research Expedition discovered nine meteorites on the blue ice field of the Yamato Mountains in Antarctica. This was the first significant recovery of Antarctic meteorites and represented samples of several different types. As a result, the United States and Japan conducted systematic follow-up searches for meteorites in Antarctica that recovered more than 40,000 specimens, including extremely rare Martian and lunar meteorites. Researchers found Wassonite surrounded by additional unknown minerals that are being investigated. The mineral is less than one-hundredth the width of a human hair or 50x450 nanometers. It would have been impossible to discover without NASA's transmission electron microscope, which is capable of isolating the Wassonite grains and determining their chemical composition and atomic structure. More secrets of the universe can be revealed from these specimens using 21st century nano-technology, said Nakamura-Messenger. The new mineral's name was approved by the International Mineralogical Association. It honors John T. Wasson, professor at the University of California, Los Angeles (UCLA). Wasson is known for his achievements across a broad swath of meteorite and impact research, including the use of neutron activation data to classify meteorites and to formulate models for the chemical makeup of bulk chondrites. Meteorites, and the minerals within them, are windows to the formation of our solar system, said Lindsay Keller, space scientist at NASA's Johnson Space Center in Houston. Keller is the co-discoverer and principal investigator of the microscope used to analyze the Wassonite crystals. Through these kinds of studies we can learn about the conditions that existed and the processes that were occurring then. Johnson's advanced work in nanotechnology is part of the center's Astromaterial Research and Exploration Science Directorate. It is currently the location for celestial materials that would be returned to Earth from spacecraft. The facility collaborates with industry, academic and international organizations. The beauty of this research is that it really demonstrates how the Johnson Space Center has become a pre-eminent leader in the field of nanoscale analysis, said Simon Clemett, a space scientist at Johnson and co-discoverer of the new mineral. In the words of the great English poet William Blake, we are now able 'to see the world in a grain of sand'. Collaborators in the discovery of the new mineral include Clemett, Keller and Zia Rahman in the Astromaterials Research and Exploration Science Directorate at Johnson; Alan Rubin from UCLA; Byeon-Gak Choi from Seoul National University, South Korea;
Re: [meteorite-list] AD - Lock of Ms. Ann Hodge's Torso Hair - Lock of Hair Struck by the Famous Meteorite!
I'll take it!!! Got anymore??? April Fools -- Stuart McDaniel Lawndale, NC Michael Gilmer meteoritem...@gmail.com wrote: = Hi List, It gives me great pleasure to announce the offering of a one-of-a-kind meteorite collectible - a lock of Ms. Hodge's body hair that was struck by the Sylacauga meteorite! This is without a doubt, the rarest and most unique hammer stone artifact ever. Do not miss your chance to own this piece of meteoritical and medical history! For more information and photos, see the following link - http://www.galactic-stone.com/product/sylacauga-rare-lock-of-ann-hodges-torso-hair-struck-by-a-meteorite Don't forget to use your coupon code metlist at checkout for 20% off! :) Best regards and have a great weekend, MikeG PS - I apologize for the double ad-posting this week, but I thought this unique collectible was worthy of the attention. -- Mike Gilmer - Galactic Stone Ironworks Meteorites Website - http://www.galactic-stone.com Facebook - http://www.facebook.com/galacticstone News Feed - http://www.galactic-stone.com/rss/126516 Twitter - http://twitter.com/galacticstone EOM - http://www.encyclopedia-of-meteorites.com/collection.aspx?id=1564 --- __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] AD - Lock of Ms. Ann Hodge's Torso Hair - Lock of Hair Struck by the Famous Meteorite!
What a deal..only a million!!! -- Stuart McDaniel Lawndale, NC Michael Gilmer meteoritem...@gmail.com wrote: = Hi List, It gives me great pleasure to announce the offering of a one-of-a-kind meteorite collectible - a lock of Ms. Hodge's body hair that was struck by the Sylacauga meteorite! This is without a doubt, the rarest and most unique hammer stone artifact ever. Do not miss your chance to own this piece of meteoritical and medical history! For more information and photos, see the following link - http://www.galactic-stone.com/product/sylacauga-rare-lock-of-ann-hodges-torso-hair-struck-by-a-meteorite Don't forget to use your coupon code metlist at checkout for 20% off! :) Best regards and have a great weekend, MikeG PS - I apologize for the double ad-posting this week, but I thought this unique collectible was worthy of the attention. -- Mike Gilmer - Galactic Stone Ironworks Meteorites Website - http://www.galactic-stone.com Facebook - http://www.facebook.com/galacticstone News Feed - http://www.galactic-stone.com/rss/126516 Twitter - http://twitter.com/galacticstone EOM - http://www.encyclopedia-of-meteorites.com/collection.aspx?id=1564 --- __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] AD - Staggering New American CM1 Meteorite - As Seen on TV, Verified by Blaine Reed!
Sucker punched again!!! -- Stuart McDaniel Lawndale, NC Michael Gilmer meteoritem...@gmail.com wrote: = Hi List, I apologize for pulling a Cottingham and going over the my quota of weekly ads! ;) But I have an announcement that is so mind-blowing that I cannot wait until next week. I am proud to announce the finding of a new American CM1 meteorite! What's more, this meteorite contains PROOF OF EXTRA-TERRESTRIAL LIFE! I am offering to sell the main mass of this ultra-rare meteorite. If it does not sell, I will slice it up and offer smaller specimens to the public. For photos, details, and more information, see this link - http://www.galactic-stone.com/product/new-american-cm1-meteorite-rarest-of-the-rare-with-fossil-microbes Best regards, MikeG -- Mike Gilmer - Galactic Stone Ironworks Meteorites Website - http://www.galactic-stone.com Facebook - http://www.facebook.com/galacticstone News Feed - http://www.galactic-stone.com/rss/126516 Twitter - http://twitter.com/galacticstone EOM - http://www.encyclopedia-of-meteorites.com/collection.aspx?id=1564 --- __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Hairy story
Nopethat was CHEST HAIR!!! OMG!! -- Stuart McDaniel Lawndale, NC pshu...@messengersfromthecosmos.com wrote: = All, That is one hairy woman. You say the hair is from her leg?? Ape woman excapes from the circus,, More on this at 10PM Pete IMCA 1733 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Gravity satellite yields 'Potato Earth' view
Interesting indeed. -- Stuart McDaniel Lawndale, NC John.L.Cabassi j...@cabassi.net wrote: = G'Day List Thought this was very interesting Cheers John Imca 2125 http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-12911806 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Possible Meteorite Over North Carolina
Wow, earthquakes this week in NC (2.9 RS) and now rocks from space!! Run Chicken Little!!! -- Stuart McDaniel Lawndale, NC JoshuaTreeMuseum joshuatreemus...@embarqmail.com wrote: = I like the part about the three propulsion systems: http://www.starnewsonline.com/article/20110322/ARTICLES/110329902/-1/news06?Title=Possible-meteorite-lights-up-sky-911-phone-linestc=ar Possible meteorite lights up sky, 911 phone lines Published: Tuesday, March 22, 2011 at 9:31 p.m. Last Modified: Tuesday, March 22, 2011 at 9:31 p.m. A possible meteorite entering the Earth's atmosphere Tuesday evening had 911 centers in Southeastern North Carolina fielding multiple phone calls from concerned residents. Lisa Weldrick, a supervisor at the New Hanover County 911 Communications center, said callers described witnessing what appeared to be a large meteorite crossing the sky at a steep angle before burning out shortly after 7:30 p.m. She said callers described it as a shooting star and one man said it looked like it had three propulsion systems. Authorities in Brunswick and Pender counties also received multiple calls, with some reports suggesting the meteorite had actually landed, but that could not be verified Tuesday evening. Meteorites are usually remnants of asteroids or comets that survive a fall to the ground through Earth's atmosphere, according to Meteorite.org. But some have proven to be pieces of moon or Mars that broke off after an impact event and traveled through space. - Brian Freskos __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Orrery
That is pretty awesome, I would be interested too. -- Stuart McDaniel Lawndale, NC Pete Pete rsvp...@hotmail.com wrote: = Hi, all, I came across this pretty cool digital orrery today: http://dd.dynamicdiagrams.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/orrery_2006.swf http://dd.dynamicdiagrams.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/orrery_2006.swf The asteroid belt makes it on-topic ;] It's not to scale, but pleasant to watch nonetheless! Is anyone aware of similar? Or even better, one that could be used as a desktop background? Cheers, Pete __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Lorton Meteorite
Well don't that suck!! (I guess) Now we will never have a piece of it. :-( -- Stuart McDaniel Lawndale, NC JoshuaTreeMuseum joshuatreemus...@embarqmail.com wrote: = The landlords got outlawyered: http://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/magazine/whatever-happened-to-the-lorton-meteorite-/2011/03/04/AB14tMq_story.html By Neely Tucker, Sunday, March 20, 11:42 AM When last we heard, Everybody's Favorite Meteorite was locked up in legal limbo. The oblong little rock from outer space lighted up the late afternoon sky across Washington on Jan. 18, 2010, and rocketed into a doctors' office in Lorton. Moving at a leisurely 200 mph, it crashed into examination room No. 2 in the Williamsburg Square Family Practice, even though it did not have an appointment. The startled (but unhurt) doctors, Marc Gallini and Frank Ciampi, donated it to the Smithsonian National Museum of Natural History, which houses the world's largest collection of meteorites. But then their landlords said not so fast: The 2-by-3-inch visitor from the asteroid belt was estimated to be worth at least $50,000 on the earth-bound meteorite market, in part because of its dramatic and well-documented entrance. Thousands of people saw its fireball descent (the museum has a photograph of the vapor trail), and radar sweeps documented its path across the region. The landlords demanded its return. Gallini said of their behavior: It isn't nice. Legal wrangling ensued. We are delighted, a year later, that there is a happy ending. The landlords eventually dropped their claims, the Smithsonian gave the doctors $10,000 for the Lorton meteorite (its formal name) in early February, and the physicians donated the check to the charity Doctors Without Borders last week. Linda Welzenbach, the meteorite collection manager at the Smithsonian, says it will soon be on public display, though no date has been set. We are very happy that it's staying at the Smithsonian, Gallini says. We felt that where it's belonged since the beginning. Deniz Mutlu, a member of the family that owns the building, said his only issue with events was that we got portrayed as the bad guys. All we wanted to do was donate it to a different institution (Phillips Exeter Academy, in New Hampshire), where my wife attended school, he said. The doctors wanted to litigate. They had pro bono counsel. We just let it go. The meteorite, which existed for about 4.5 billion years floating around between Mars and Jupiter, now spends its time in a little plastic box deep in the Mason-Clarke Meteorite Vault in the Smithsonian. It has thousands of other little asteroid friends, including three from Mars, to keep it company. Holding the Lorton meteorite with blue latex gloves, Welzenbach smiled. It's going to stay here where everyone can see it. CURIOUS? Tell us what past Washington Post story or person in the news you want us to update. E-mail tre...@washpost.com or call 202.334.4208. Phil Whitmer __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Mani vs Arnold Verdicts
Congrats Steve, we never had any doubts. -- Stuart McDaniel Lawndale, NC Ruben Garcia mrmeteor...@gmail.com wrote: = Congrats Steve! It's a good day! On Fri, Mar 18, 2011 at 12:06 PM, meteorh...@aol.com wrote: To whom it may concern: With the Honorable Judge Martha Tanner presiding over the 166th District Court, in Bexar County, Texas; a jury of 12 of my peers after a long trail returned the follow verdicts today: Question 1, Did Steven Arnold commit fraud against Brenham Meteorite, Ltd.? Jury's Answer: No. Question 2, Did Steven Arnold commit fraud against Philip Mani? Jury's Answer: No. Question 3, Did Steven Arnold fail to comply with his fiduciary duty to Brenham Meteorite, Ltd.? Jury's Answer: No. Question 4, Did Steven Arnold fail to comply with his fiduciary duty to Philip Mani? Jury's Answer: No. Question 5, Did Steven Arnold fail to comply with the partnership agreement? Jury's Answer: No. My wife Qynne and I would like to thank God for delivering this victory for us. We are thankful to have this chapter of our lives behind us and we look forward to the exciting things ahead. Steve Arnold of Meteorite Men Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list -- Rock On! Ruben Garcia Website: http://www.mr-meteorite.net Articles: http://www.meteorite.com/blog/ Videos: http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=meteorfright#p/u __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Great News to eBay sellers.
Us gun and military collectors had to do the same a while back after ebay decided to stop letting you sell anything assault rifle related, including anything banned in Kalifornia but not banned anywhere else, ammo of any kind, bayonets of assault-rifle nature, and then they stopped the sale of inert ordnance. Basically if you had anything AK47 or AR15 related it was banned by ebay. We used to sell hi-cap mags as 10rd per ebay rules and the buyer could easily see from the picture they were hi-cap. Ebay finally caught on to that one too. They even suspended several of us for 30 days for doing so. They are a bunch of idiots. So.everyone just moved to Gunbroker.com, problem solved!! -- Stuart McDaniel Lawndale, NC Meteorites USA e...@meteoritesusa.com wrote: = I agree... Meteorite Dealers can go here! http://www.meteoritesusa.com/meteorites-for-sale/ I get 100,000 plus visitors to my site annually. List your meteorites for sale where people are looking for meteorites for sale. Regards, Eric On 3/16/2011 5:17 PM, m...@mhmeteorites.com wrote: Everyone has the choice not to use Ebay. Visit your favorite dealers' sites or email and work deals that way. Saves us ALL capital and is more fun. Matt Matt Morgan Mile High Meteorites http://www.mhmeteorites.com P.O. Box 151293 Lakewood, CO 80215 -Original Message- From: Marcin Cimalamar...@meteoryt.net Sender: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2011 01:15:11 To:fallingfus...@wi.rr.com;meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Reply-To: Marcin Cimalamar...@meteoryt.net Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Great News to eBay sellers. For those of you that sell on feeBay. Take alook at this great news to take affect on April 19th. This first paragraph seems too good to be true... but then look at the second paragraph - the final value fee will now be applied to shipping fees also! So basically, if you have to ship a large, heavy item.. eBay will charge you extra for it, even though shipping is done third party by the seller. What a load of Ryan Hmm Soon they will charge extra final value fees to all items that not sell as a punishment But this changes are not too bad. We will see how this will work -[ MARCIN CIMALA ]-[ I.M.C.A.#3667 ]- http://www.Meteoryty.pl marcin(at)meteoryty.pl http://www.PolandMET.com marcin(at)polandmet.com http://www.Gao-Guenie.com GSM: +48 (793) 567667 [ Member of Polish Meteoritical Society ] __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] AERIAL VIEWS OF JAPAN
The only problem with those pictures is that they were taken in different seasons so it is kind of deceiving in the brown versus green images. Still none the less an aweful situation. -- Stuart McDaniel Lawndale, NC cdtuc...@cox.net wrote: = OMG; ABC is amazing. Very sad. http://www.abc.net.au/news/events/japan-quake-2011/beforeafter.htm -- Carl or Debbie Esparza Meteoritemax This will take a little time to fully load. Put your cursor over the right side of each picture and just move it from side to side. You will see the before and after pictures. What terrible devastation! http://www.abc.net.au/news/events/japan-quake-2011/beforeafter.htm __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Interesting Illinois Photos (Meteor?)
That is some interesting photos. -- Stuart McDaniel Lawndale, NC Mike Groetz mpg4...@gmail.com wrote: = There are (3) periods at the end of this URL- seems that directly clicking on it does not pick them up. You may need to copy/paste. Sorry for the problems. Mike G http://beaconnews.suntimes.com/news/crosby/4259193-418/ufo-in-oswego-youve-gotta-see-it-to-believe-it-... On Tue, Mar 15, 2011 at 7:08 PM, Barrett barret...@comcast.net wrote: Beacon NewsError - Page Not Found The page you have requested could not be found. -Original Message- From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of Mike Groetz Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2011 3:36 PM To: Meteorite List Subject: [meteorite-list] Interesting Illinois Photos (Meteor?) Hi List- The article seems a bit goofy- but the photos that accompany it are interesting. I wish the resolution would been a bit better though. http://beaconnews.suntimes.com/4242257-417/ufo-over-oswego-youve-gotta-see-i t-to-believe-it-... Everyone have a good night. Mike G. __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Nasa builds meteor-tracking 'Fireball Network'
I would like to have one of those at my house. -- Stuart McDaniel Lawndale, NC Thunder Stone stanleygr...@hotmail.com wrote: = List: Now this sounds interesting. Greg S. http://www.wired.co.uk/news/archive/2011-03/16/nasa-fireball-network US space agency Nasa is planning to cover the United States with cameras facing upward to track meteorites as they enter the atmosphere. The scheme, which has been named the All-sky Fireball Network will allow researchers to triangulate observations of space rocks to try and figure out where they're going to land, making them easier to recover. It's entirely automated -- computers scan the images received to try and work out which objects are meteors, and then send any positive results to Nasa, which puts them on the web. The network currently consists of just three cameras -- in the US states of Alabama, Georgia and Tennessee. Nasa's William Cooke, head of the agency's Meteoroid Environment Office, hopes to expand that to 15 cameras across the eastern half of the US, and is talking to schools, planetariums and science centres to host them. If someone calls me and asks 'What was that?' I'll be able to tell them, he told Singularity Hub. Other meteorite monitoring systems exist, particularly over the less-populated western half of the US, but the Fireball Network is the first that's completely automated, using optical recognition technology to identify the flaming signature of a meteorite burning up in the atmosphere (or the occasional spider). Eventually, it's hoped that the various meteor-monitoring networks could link up to cover the whole country. It's not a warning system -- once a meteor is detected it'll likely be too late to alert any nearby residents. But data from the Fireball Network will be used to improve the shielding used on spacecraft, as well as being kept as a record of every large meteoroid to burn up over the US. It'll also help researchers track more of them down. One of Cooke's assistants told Nasa's Science News: Most meteorites fall in the ocean, lakes, forests, farmer's fields, or the Antarctic…and the majority of those meteorites will never be found. But our system will help us track down more of them. __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Caused the Daytona Beach Rogue Wave in 1992?
I say snorkel up! Can't be all rusted away if it was a stony. Stuart. Galactic Stone and Ironworks meteoritem...@gmail.com wrote: Hi List, All of this talk about the tsunami in Japan reminded me of an event that happened here in Florida in 1992, that may have a meteorite connection. On July 3rd, 1992, a 20-foot rogue wave appeared out of nowhere (calm weather) and washed ashore on Daytona Beach, damaging many vehicles parked along the beach and causing scores of minor injuries - thankfully there were no fatalities. This event was big news down here at the time, but has since faded into obscurity. I did some digging on the event, to satisfy my own curiosity and I came across an account that includes a possible meteorite fall. Here is a quote from an eyewitness who was a boater that was offshore at the time - ...the boater came forward with the information that, shortly before the time of the wave, he was in his boat about eight miles offshore. He watched as a distant object approached across the sky toward the ocean at a high rate of speed, and crossed the bow of his boat at an angle with a whoosh (his word). Shortly after, a giant swell made his 41-foot sailboat handle like a large surfboard. Various news sources state that the meteorite, as it is now being called, was anywhere from a meter to 10 feet across. The boater who wished to remain anonymous, gave the professors enough information so that they are hoping that the Navy will retrieve the object, which is presumed to be lying in about 70 feet of water off the Daytona Beach coastline, with plenty of coordinates for locating it. (source : http://www.science-frontiers.com/sf084/sf084g12.htm ) Does anyone remember this meteorite event? And, did anyone look for the object? I know 70-feet of water is not exactly prime meteorite-hunting territory, but one has to wonder what happened, in light of the eyewitness account. Best regards, MikeG -- -- Mike Gilmer - Galactic Stone Ironworks Meteorites Website - http://www.galactic-stone.com Facebook - http://www.facebook.com/galacticstone News Feed - http://www.galactic-stone.com/rss/126516 Twitter - http://twitter.com/galacticstone EOM - http://www.encyclopedia-of-meteorites.com/collection.aspx?id=1564 --- __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list -- Stuart McDaniel Lawndale, NC __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Oman prison saga
Yes it is good to have them home safe and sound. I would not wish a foreign prison on anybody!! (well maybe Osama or Gadahfi):-) Welcome Home!! Stuart McDaniel Galactic Stone and Ironworks meteoritem...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Mike, Robert and List, I concur with what some of the others said - I don't recall anyone being happy you guys were sitting in an Omani prison. Of course, when the news got around, people did talk about it, and it did result in the expected debates about hunting, legalities, and the like. Eventually, everyone just shut up about it in public because we didn't want to add to your problem. Now that both of you are back home and safe, everything can return to normal - or what passes for normal in the meteorite world. I don't think anyone would wish a foreign prison on their worst enemy, and if there are people out there who were happy to see you guys rot in a cell, then I would not want to have anything to do with such people. Now, get some rest, try to unwind, and get out there and find the first American lunar. :) Best regards and happy huntings, MikeG -- Mike Gilmer - Galactic Stone Ironworks Meteorites Website - http://www.galactic-stone.com Facebook - http://www.facebook.com/galacticstone News Feed - http://www.galactic-stone.com/rss/126516 Twitter - http://twitter.com/galacticstone EOM - http://www.encyclopedia-of-meteorites.com/collection.aspx?id=1564 --- On 3/14/11, cdtuc...@cox.net cdtuc...@cox.net wrote: Mike and Robert, Welcome back. I agree with Ruben in that nobody I spoke with about you guys wanted to see you imprisoned. In fact between you and the shootings of Gabby and company the mood at the Tucson Show was that of civility. for the past twenty years I have never missed the show but, this year was a special one. The sadness felt for you guys was evident every day of the show. People shared good stories about you two and everyone wished for your safe speedy return. I know I longed to hear what you had to say in your personal phone calls to Jim Strope. This gave us all hope. Hopefully the civility inspired by the two of you along with Gabby and the rest will last. I commented on this before that this years Tucson was the friendliest ever. Welcome back guys. I think we are all better people from your suffering. 40 pound weight loss. Man , you might be able to sell that diet plan? Ha ha Carl -- Carl or Debbie Esparza Meteoritemax Michael Farmer m...@meteoriteguy.com wrote: 90% of the meteorite list is interested in the Oman meteorite saga that Robert Ward and Michael Farmer went through from our arrest in early January until our release ordered on March 7th 2011. This is my story, Robert can tell his, as it is a little different as we were separated, interrogated, and housed apart for more than half of the event. On December 31st we headed for Oman, my 20th meteorite hunting expedition there. I have studied the law there since the arrest of the Russian and American hunters back in 2005. There is no law against meteorite hunting in Oman, those who asked why we keep doing it, that is why. It is legal. After months of meeting with lawyers, looking at Oman law, I think we know what we are talking about. We had a very successful trip, I found 35 meteorites, 3 pieces of the Dhofar 1180 Lunar, more than 100 grams, and some other nice things. On the last day we headed out of the desert and towards Dubai. At 1 PM on 13 January we arrived at a police roadblock in Adam, nothing out of the norm, until they rushed my car with M16's and they had heavy belt-fed guns on their trucks. They forced us out of our cars and ripped them apart of course, finding the meteorites immediately. We were taken to the Adam police station and interrogated for 10 hours. The Wali (governor) of the area arrived and was very upset at our confinement, he kept apologizing to us and saying he did not understand why we were being arrested and kept calling Muscat to try and get us released, he was angry at tourists being detained in his district. He then informed that orders from much higher in the government came in that we were to be taken to Muscat and it was out of his hands. The roadblock was for us, they had intel that we were coming. I have intel on who did it.. We were driven to Muscat in shackles, arriving at midnight, taken to an interrogation center in Qurum. Stripped, put into separate rooms, and never saw each other again for the next 25 days except when the embassy came, our lawyers came, or we were taken to the hospital a couple of times. Qurum Criminal Investigation Division is little more than a torture chamber, we heard many times people being beaten, and dragged
Re: [meteorite-list] ad : 121 gr achondrite to see great one
That is an awesome piece!!! Stuart McD. habibi abdelaziz azizhab...@yahoo.com wrote: hello all enjoy http://www.flickr.com/photos/azizhabibi/ aziz h __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list -- Stuart McDaniel Lawndale, NC __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Any Word from?
Glad to here all is well there. Stuart Gary Fujihara fuj...@mac.com wrote: Aloha John, listoids, Mahalo for your positive thoughts and prayers everyone. All's well from my vantage point in Kaumana at 1500' elevation just above Hilo on the eastern coast of Hawaii island. An evacuation order remains in effect for all coastal areas, with damaging waves reported in Kailua-Kona (western coast of Hawaii island). State and County offices are closed today. So the Big Kahuna is chugging some Kona coffee and waxing up while trying to figure a way to get around roadblocks this morning. A hui hou! gary On Mar 11, 2011, at 5:12 AM, John L wrote: Hello all, 10:am EST Has anyone heard from Tracey,Gary, Dirk et al, lately?? Good thoughts for all. John L IMCA# 1896 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list Gary Fujihara Big Kahuna Meteorites (IMCA#1693) 105 Puhili Place, Hilo, Hawai'i 96720 http://bigkahuna-meteorites.com/ http://shop.ebay.com/fujmon/m.html (808) 640-9161 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list -- Stuart McDaniel Lawndale, NC __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] 8.9 Quake in Japan, 10 meter Tsunami, Hope Dirk and others are ok
OMG, hope you are safe Dirk!! Stuart. Michael Gilmer meteoritem...@gmail.com wrote: Stay safe Dirk! I hope you are nowhere near the Fukashima (sp?) nuclear power plant. I heard they cannot cool the reactor and they are evacuating the facility. It could be another 3-mile Island or Chernobyl. My thoughts and prayers go out to everyone in the quake zone. Best regards, MikeG -- Mike Gilmer - Galactic Stone Ironworks Meteorites Website - http://www.galactic-stone.com Facebook - http://www.facebook.com/galacticstone News Feed - http://www.galactic-stone.com/rss/126516 Twitter - http://twitter.com/galacticstone EOM - http://www.encyclopedia-of-meteorites.com/collection.aspx?id=1564 --- On 3/11/11, drtanuki drtan...@yahoo.com wrote: We are having another big rupture as I type under the table. Dirk...Tokyo --- On Sat, 3/12/11, Darren Garrison cyna...@charter.net wrote: From: Darren Garrison cyna...@charter.net Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] 8.9 Quake in Japan, 10 meter Tsunami, Hope Dirk and others are ok To: Meteorite-list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Saturday, March 12, 2011, 12:16 AM Here's a live English news feed on Al Jazeera: http://english.aljazeera.net/watch_now/ and the NHK: http://wwitv.com/tv_channels/6810.htm __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list -- __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list -- Stuart McDaniel Lawndale, NC __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite ID Card Format
Is that a free download?? Stuart wahlpe...@aol.com wrote: Hi Mike, I have used a Business card program that works great. My favorite is Business card composer 5. Sonny www.nevadameteorites.com -Original Message- From: Michael Groetz mpg4...@gmail.com To: Meteorite List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Fri, Mar 4, 2011 2:20 am Subject: [meteorite-list] Meteorite ID Card Format Hi List- It has always been very important to me to keep ID cards with eachmeteorite in my collection. Some of the meteorites I have were notprovided with a card from the supplier. I have to admit- I am not very computer literate. I've tried tomake a format to use repeatedly but they have not had a quality lookto them that I would like in my collection. Would someone on the list be willing to share a generic format thatwould work in either Microsoft Word Processor or Word 2007? I wouldsure appreciate it if you share with me a file to use off list. Pleasedo not send me one specific to your business as I would not want toduplicate that. Thank you very much. Have a good weekend.Mike__Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.htmlMeteorite-list mailing listMeteorite-list@meteoritecentral.comhttp://six.pairlist.net/mailman/li stinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list -- Stuart McDaniel Lawndale, NC __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] GIANT Lunar Download
I downloaded it last week and on Roadrunner it took 5 mins!! STuart. Pete Pete rsvp...@hotmail.com wrote: Hi, all, I suggest not trying to download unless you aren't needing your computer for a while. My computer is new, and it took about fifteen minutes. I think it is worth the time, if you appreciate our little buddy. Cheers, Pete http://www.skyandtelescope.com/news/116932598.html http://www.skyandtelescope.com/news/116932598.html A Half-Gigabyte View of the Moon Ever since NASA's Lunar Reconnaissance Orbiter began circling the Moon at low altitude in mid-2009, planetary scientists and the public have marveled at the incredible trove of observations it's been beaming back to Earth. Most often in the spotlight are the jaw-dropping closeups of Apollo landing sites by the Lunar Reconnaissance Orbiter Camera (LROC). It can resolve the surface at 2 feet (0.5 m) per pixel — good enough to reveal even the paths worn in the lunar soil by the astronauts' boots. A new 24,000-pixel-square mosaic from NASA's Lunar Reconnaissance Orbiter shows the Moon's nearside as never before. Click here for a larger (but not full-size!) version; a labeled version is here. NASA / GSFC / Arizona State Univ.The work of LROC's wide-angle camera, which provides surface context for those incredible narrow-angle shots, has largely gone unheralded … until now. This past week the team released a new mosaic of the Moon's near side taken entirely with wide-angle frames. Acquired during a two-week period in December, the 1,300 black-and-white frames create a full-disk mosaic measuring 24,000 pixels across. Gulp! As the Moon rotated under LRO's orbit, explains LROC team leader Mark Robinson (Arizona State University), the ground track progressed from east to west (right to left in this mosaic). The image run was timed to keep the Sun high up in the lunar sky but not straight overhead (its altitude varied from 69° to 82°). This created enough shadowing to define crater rims and other topography crisply, unlike the shadow-free view that we see during a full Moon. The combined image shows slight banding where the 1,024-pixel-wide swaths were stitched together. A close-up of Rupes Recta (usually called the Straight Wall) from the new LROC mosaic of the lunar nearside. Located near the eastern edge of Mare Nubium, this steep-faced scarp is about 70 miles (114 km) long. NASA / GSFC / Arizona State Univ.Weighing in at just 2 pounds (0.9 kg), LROC's wide-angle camera is small enough to fit in your hand. It features an aperture only 1.2 mm across and a focal length of just 6 mm (for visible-light work). Yet from LRO's very low orbit, currently only 20 miles (30 km) up, this mighty mite can pick out surface details as small as 250 feet (75 m). Click here to view the specifications for LROC's wide- and narrow-angle cameras. The image looks dark because Robinson and his team have kept the Moon as it really is: dark. On average, the lunar surface reflects only about 12% of the sunlight that strikes it. So a full Moon really isn't dazzlingly bright — it only looks that way to our eyes because of the contrast with the black sky around it. If your computer's up to it, you can download the full half-gigabyte mosaic here. __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list -- Stuart McDaniel Lawndale, NC __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Free Meteorite Card Template
Thanks Mike, that is awesome!! Stuart Mike Bandli fuzzf...@comcast.net wrote: In response to requests for specimen card templates, I have uploaded a template I designed for free use: http://historicmeteorites.com/HistoricMeteorites/labels.html Feel free to edit/tailor it for your personal requirements. Cheers, Mike Bandli --- Mike Bandli Historic Meteorites www.HistoricMeteorites.com and join us on Facebook: www.facebook.com/Meteorites1 IMCA #5765 --- __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list -- Stuart McDaniel Lawndale, NC __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Cards - changing mass
I agree. I keep all the cards you guys send me when I purchase. I have been thinking about doing my own card but it really is meaning less not being an IMCA member or the original finder. Maybe make an entry on the back of the original card as to whom you received it from and forward it when you sell it. Stuart McD Mike Bandli fuzzf...@comcast.net wrote: Hello Rob, Great question. You should always provide your own card (even if the weight changes). The idea is that if everyone did this, and passed original dealer/collector cards along, you could establish a *chain-of-custody*. Chain-of-custody is an important component of provenance. As pieces continue to be sectioned down or change hands, provenance is more important than ever. With the influx of new collectors, we all need to set higher standards so that this precious information gets passed down. Cheers, Mike Bandli Mike Bandli Historic Meteorites www.HistoricMeteorites.com and join us on Facebook: www.facebook.com/Meteorites1 IMCA #5765 -Original Message- From: Rob Lenssen [mailto:rlens...@planet.nl] Sent: Friday, March 04, 2011 1:12 PM To: 'Mike Bandli'; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: RE: [meteorite-list]Meteorite Cards - changing mass Hi Mike and List, Concerning Meteorite-Cards... I like to have my stone-type meteorite slices sanded at one side and polished at the other. After buying slices, they typically arrive as-cut. So I have to sand and polish them myself. As you can guess, afterwards the mass doesnt correspond to the mass on the cards anymore. Assume I would choose to sell a slice. Should I stripe the original mass, and put a new figure (plus my name?) on the original card (as I would choose to do), or should I make my own new card, or choose even a different option? What would be the best choice? Wonder if we could work out a preferred approach here. All the best, Rob Lenssen AsteroidChipping.com -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] Namens Mike Bandli Verzonden: vrijdag 4 maart 2011 17:24 Aan: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Onderwerp: [meteorite-list] Free Meteorite Card Template In response to requests for specimen card templates, I have uploaded a template I designed for free use: http://historicmeteorites.com/HistoricMeteorites/labels.html Feel free to edit/tailor it for your personal requirements. Cheers, Mike Bandli --- Mike Bandli Historic Meteorites www.HistoricMeteorites.com and join us on Facebook: www.facebook.com/Meteorites1 IMCA #5765 --- __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list -- Stuart McDaniel Lawndale, NC __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Ebay, Again!
His email says g.marcos @ yahoo. Looks like obsidian to me. impact...@aol.com wrote: Hello, Yes, back to meteorites. Maybe! This Ebayer has just been brought to my attention: _http://shop.ebay.com/hroller22/m.html?_trksid=p4340.l2562_ (http://shop.ebay.com/hroller22/m.html?_trksid=p4340.l2562) He is selling a lot of Campos, odd ones with only 11% iron! I don't believe anyone of them has ever been in space. Would anyone of you know that seller? He is in Las Vegas, so maybe one of you Las Vegas meteorite-experts might like to talk to him about real meteorites. Count Deiro? you said you were bored!!! ;-) Good luck. Anne M. Black http://www.impactika.com/ impact...@aol.com President, I.M.C.A. Inc. http://www.imca.cc/ __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list -- Stuart McDaniel Lawndale, NC __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Tucson Auction
Has it ever occurred to anyone that a lot of the people I saw at the auction were major dealers and I would suspect they are NOT going to pay retail prices, even for rare stuff. Stuart McD Darryl Pitt dar...@dof3.com wrote: John and Greg do indeed have terrific points. The issue with Mike's Tucson Auction is that the prices attained are, far more often than not, anomalously low. I'm not exactly certain why---but several factors come to mind. To a lesser extent, the same occurred with the Macovich Auctions at Tucson...was it a decade ago? (Wow.) I am all for transparency, but transparency can frequently result in disinformation if there is no context. And to be clear, I did not state this was a wholesale event. I suggested that be stated that the auction occurred at a wholesale marketplace. For me, it's precisely because this is not the same as eBay---this is a traditional auction and its perceived gravitas is far greater---that perhaps we should be more sensitive to the messages being provided. Just a thought. Nonetheless, I totally get the opposing point of view. All best / Darryl On Feb 24, 2011, at 12:37 AM, Greg Catterton wrote: I have to agree with John 110%. He said about all that needs said. One thing I dont understand is why the auction was considered a wholesale event, I never understood it to be as such - no more then ebay auctions and from what I have read, some prices were just as above market as others were under. Greg Catterton www.wanderingstarmeteorites.com IMCA member 4682 On Ebay: http://stores.shop.ebay.com/wanderingstarmeteorites On Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/WanderingStarMeteorites --- On Wed, 2/23/11, John.L.Cabassi j...@cabassi.net wrote: From: John.L.Cabassi j...@cabassi.net Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Tucson Auction To: 'Michael Blood' mlbl...@cox.net, 'Richard Montgomery' rickm...@earthlink.net, 'Met. Darryl Pitt' dar...@dof3.com Cc: 'Meteorite List' meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Wednesday, February 23, 2011, 10:38 PM G'Day Michael, List and All I'm a little perplexed over this statement. You've got to remember that this was a live auction, many people viewed it, there were a lot of comments made. But why are we trying to hide something here? Aren't we trying to be honest? Not even with the buyers, but with the public that view this list? We're just adding to meteorite buyers / collectors being corrupt. We don't need to hide anything and we don't need to give those that frequent these pages fire power to say that we're not legit. I'm sorry, I disagree with this whole thing. Make it be known, make it be public. That's the only way we're going to move forward from being negative. That's just my thoughts and not anyone else's. But I'm a little concerned about the non-transparency. Bear with me, I'm not out to condone anybody, but give it some thought. Cheers John IMCA # 2125 -Original Message- From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of Michael Blood Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2011 7:00 PM To: Richard Montgomery; Met. Darryl Pitt Cc: Meteorite List Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Tucson Auction 1) I responded to Darryl off list. 2) OK, if anyone wants the results, email me OFF LIST. Michael On 2/23/11 6:35 PM, Richard Montgomery rickm...@earthlink.net wrote: Darryl makes a monumental point. While, as someone who couldn't attend the auction, I originally asked the List if there was any way to know the final-sales-prices of the auction, hoping I could find them somewhereNow I suggest that Michael, Capt. Blood, makes them available only off-list by request to avoid publication in a rogue journal or hyped newspaper/journal adventure bent on achieving TV ratingssomehow for those of us who still don't know (I listened to the whole Ruben-feed but didn't take notes). I know that there will be a bunch of posts about this (no pun intended to our most respected meteoriticist, TB )... Kevin K, what do you think? Respect intended, Richard Montgomery - Original Message - From: Darryl Pitt dar...@dof3.com To: Michael Blood mlbl...@cox.net Cc: Meteorite List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2011 5:46 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] ad Michael, Please do consider not publicly posting the auction results---or if you are intent to do so, I urge you to consider making it absolutely clear the auction occurs at a wholesale marketplace and the prices attained reflect the same. The last thing needed is more confusion for the growing legion of new buyers who are exasperated in their
Re: [meteorite-list] Tucson Auction
If one hit you directly Shawn I guess we would have to have you taxidermied because you know you would now be worth $2 or $300,000!! :-) Stuart McD Shawn Alan photoph...@yahoo.com wrote: Carl I would have to agree with you about the termite. How could one prove that the termite died from the meteorite fall? Maybe the termite was so excited about the meteorite landing by it, it died from shock. I am not sure what I would do if a meteorite landed right by me, but I hope I wouldnt die from shock cause of excitement of a meteorite landing by me. But I guess if I did die, the value would go up and if it some how came in contact with me, the price would be through the roof, or if it was a lunar meteorite :) Shawn Alan IMCA 1633 eBaystore http://shop.ebay.com/photophlow/m.html [meteorite-list] Tucson Auctioncdtucson at cox.net cdtucson at cox.net Thu Feb 24 12:16:35 EST 2011 Previous message: [meteorite-list] Tucson Auction Next message: [meteorite-list] Tucson Auction Messages sorted by: [ date ] [ thread ] [ subject ] [ author ] Adam, Forgive me but I had to Google this termite sale to believe it. All due respect to you Adam I just think this is great. I was at the auction and I wondered at the time why anyone would pay $70.00 for a dead termite carcass. Now I know. This poor termite probably never saw it coming? RIP. No doubt this was found at the scene but if it was killed by the fall then why is it not squished? Too funny. If somebody would pay for a termite found dead at the scene of a meteorite fall. maybe someone would pay high dollar for Steve's gems from space? Has the whole world gone NUTS? Hey, I once sold a cheap African Rhino horn bracelet for $3K on ebay. I don't know why but two people wanted it at the time. To each his own. Carl -- Carl or Debbie Esparza Meteoritemax Adam Hupe raremeteorites at yahoo.com wrote: Somebody got a deal on that termite as it was nearly in pristine shape. The last one that was partially disarticulated with starboard wing damage sold for nearly $500.00 on eBay. There are only two complete carcasses in existence with a few left over appendages. I imagine these will be placed in a museum someday. Like I said before, most items only realized a fraction of what they would have on eBay while a very few items went for more. I think there are too many distractions for items to be bid up to near their potential. Best Regards, Adam __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list Previous message: [meteorite-list] Tucson Auction Next message: [meteorite-list] Tucson Auction Messages sorted by: [ date ] [ thread ] [ subject ] [ author ] More information about the Meteorite-list mailing list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list -- Stuart McDaniel Lawndale, NC __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Tucson Auction
Besides, the auction was broadcast on the net for all the world to see. Greg Catterton star_wars_collec...@yahoo.com wrote: I have to agree with John 110%. He said about all that needs said. One thing I dont understand is why the auction was considered a wholesale event, I never understood it to be as such - no more then ebay auctions and from what I have read, some prices were just as above market as others were under. Greg Catterton www.wanderingstarmeteorites.com IMCA member 4682 On Ebay: http://stores.shop.ebay.com/wanderingstarmeteorites On Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/WanderingStarMeteorites --- On Wed, 2/23/11, John.L.Cabassi j...@cabassi.net wrote: From: John.L.Cabassi j...@cabassi.net Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Tucson Auction To: 'Michael Blood' mlbl...@cox.net, 'Richard Montgomery' rickm...@earthlink.net, 'Met. Darryl Pitt' dar...@dof3.com Cc: 'Meteorite List' meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Wednesday, February 23, 2011, 10:38 PM G'Day Michael, List and All I'm a little perplexed over this statement. You've got to remember that this was a live auction, many people viewed it, there were a lot of comments made. But why are we trying to hide something here? Aren't we trying to be honest? Not even with the buyers, but with the public that view this list? We're just adding to meteorite buyers / collectors being corrupt. We don't need to hide anything and we don't need to give those that frequent these pages fire power to say that we're not legit. I'm sorry, I disagree with this whole thing. Make it be known, make it be public. That's the only way we're going to move forward from being negative. That's just my thoughts and not anyone else's. But I'm a little concerned about the non-transparency. Bear with me, I'm not out to condone anybody, but give it some thought. Cheers John IMCA # 2125 -Original Message- From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of Michael Blood Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2011 7:00 PM To: Richard Montgomery; Met. Darryl Pitt Cc: Meteorite List Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Tucson Auction 1) I responded to Darryl off list. 2) OK, if anyone wants the results, email me OFF LIST. Michael On 2/23/11 6:35 PM, Richard Montgomery rickm...@earthlink.net wrote: Darryl makes a monumental point. While, as someone who couldn't attend the auction, I originally asked the List if there was any way to know the final-sales-prices of the auction, hoping I could find them somewhereNow I suggest that Michael, Capt. Blood, makes them available only off-list by request to avoid publication in a rogue journal or hyped newspaper/journal adventure bent on achieving TV ratingssomehow for those of us who still don't know (I listened to the whole Ruben-feed but didn't take notes). I know that there will be a bunch of posts about this (no pun intended to our most respected meteoriticist, TB )... Kevin K, what do you think? Respect intended, Richard Montgomery - Original Message - From: Darryl Pitt dar...@dof3.com To: Michael Blood mlbl...@cox.net Cc: Meteorite List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2011 5:46 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] ad Michael, Please do consider not publicly posting the auction results---or if you are intent to do so, I urge you to consider making it absolutely clear the auction occurs at a wholesale marketplace and the prices attained reflect the same. The last thing needed is more confusion for the growing legion of new buyers who are exasperated in their efforts to navigate the murky waters of meteorite valuation. Thank you for your consideration. All the best / Darryl On Feb 23, 2011, at 7:24 PM, Michael Blood wrote: Finally got everything off - looks like I will survive.barely. Soon to come: Auction results/prices Here are some goodies: HAPPY HUNTING! Michael All specimens may be seen at: http://michaelbloodmeteorites.com/Sale.html BRENHAM extremely thin sealed in oil in thick plastic. This should never rust. Increadable surface area to Weight. 18.3g huge = $275 SALE = $175- DEPORT, Tx. This specimen is the 11th specimen collected In the Monig Collection ³1K² (1A sold for $6.5K in the auction ($25/g) This 41.37g specimen cost me a considerable amount and is available for $600- CAMPO 7.9Kg (This was by far the best specimen in this weight range I saw at the show) and stands nicely on One side and
Re: [meteorite-list] The Trials and Tribulations in Dealing withLando wners
Thanks for the explaination Steve, I don't think we ever doubted your honesty. Leave it to the media to blow everything out of proportion. And I am impressed you typed all that on a Blackberry!!! :-) Stuart McD(MrKrink) Thunder Stone stanleygr...@hotmail.com wrote: Steve: I guess the Media-Wrong not Media-Right There is always two sides to a story. Greg S. To: altm...@meteorite-martin.de; meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com From: meteorh...@aol.com Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2011 04:26:35 + Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] The Trials and Tribulations in Dealing withLando wners Hello List, Wow, what an outpouring of comments today. Let me bring all of you up to speed on this. Five years ago, I partnered with around 10 or so friends and they combined some money, and I offered up some time and we started hunting for meteorites together. We choose to go to a certain location in Kansas where pallasites had been found in the past. We chose this location after I had my success locating some pallasite meteorites at the Brenham strewnfield. We got land leases to hunt, without any promise of any big money, no talk of Millions, or thousands or even hundreds of dollars to anyone. We just started hunting and we started finding meteorites. Some of my friends, at least 8 of us in the group, were very connected meteorite dealers and we decided to try to sell some of our finds, we tried and we tried and we tried, and we sold one meteorite. We contacted virtually all the institutions with notable meteorite collections and none of them wanted to either buy or to trade for any of our specimens. The one sale was made, and the land owner from where this meteorite came from got his contracted percentage royalty, and he was VERY pleased. It was truly money from heaven for him. The meteorites from this particular location have the reputation of being the worst rusting meteorites known to man. Far worse than Campo, Nantan, Brenham or any other ruster one can think of. So we could understand why no one wanted to buy any more of this meteorite. It was just too big of a risk for people to take. As we kept finding more and more meteorites, we were challenged with the supply and demand issue. Much supply, virtually no demand. Not a good outlook. Then one of the dealers in the group reminded us of the high quality gemstones that had been faceted from the peridot in this meteorite. So we took the specimen in the worst condition out of our inventory and practiced trying to free up some of the olivine that was in it, and sure enough, there were some amazing gemstones produced. A year and a half ago, we went to all the land owners where we had found meteorites and told them that if we would liquidate all the meteorites we found, we probably would only get $0.10 or $0.15 per gram. But we felt that as gemstones, we could make more money for everyone. We decided to incorporate our partnership as Palladot Inc, a Kansas corporation, that focused on selling meteorites, mostly in gemstone format. I am the President, and Jason Phillips is our C.E.O.. We hired Charles Ellias, who is a graduate gemologist with 25 years of experience in the color gemstone market, to manage our operations, including overseeing the faceting, grading and pricing and marketing of the gemstones. Our original contract only promised the landowners that they would earn their royalty on the wholesale sale of the meteorites. We told all the land owners we wanted to pursue the gemstone market as there was very little demand in the meteorite world for the specimens as meteorites. It was one of the landowners that actually suggested pooling all of the royalties together, so we wouldn't have to melt down every meteorite, and this way all the landowners could still share proportionately by their contribution in the profits. It was at that point, that in the spirit of full discloser, we explained how the gemstone market gave us the best up-side potential for earnings. If a market could be built for these most amazing and rare gemstones with a fascinating story, then we would have the supply to fill the demand created. And yes, IF there would be millions of dollars of demand created, we would have millions of dollars of gems. All of the land owners, except for one, agreed to pool their royalty interest together and join us in the gem market. The one landowner that didn't want to go to the gem business with us, was happy to take his portion in kind and we gave him his meteorites. All the others signed a new agreement that pooled their royalties together. One year ago this month, we started selling Palldot Pallasitic Peridot gemstones at the
Re: [meteorite-list] Strange things found while hunting for meteorites : )
Looks like someone was doing some target shooting out there! Michael Mulgrew mikest...@gmail.com wrote: We should compare notes, because I found a bowling pin: http://www.mikestang.com/user/cimage/CoyoteDL03-122710.JPG On Mon, Feb 21, 2011 at 5:43 PM, Thunder Stone stanleygr...@hotmail.com wrote: I found a bowling ball in the middle of the desert From: rickm...@earthlink.net To: tbe...@cableone.net; raremeteori...@yahoo.com; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2011 17:07:40 -0800 Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Strange things found while hunting for meteorites : ) Nothing tops any of the previous entries, but once I found a light-bulb in the middle of no-where. Huh??? - Original Message - From: Ted Bunch To: Adam Hupe ; Adam Sent: Monday, February 21, 2011 2:03 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Strange things found while hunting for meteorites : ) I was angry because the low flying event by military jets has happened to me numerous times. They do low altitude runs in many areas of the desert where they should not be. But these flight jockeys love to spot some poor bastard in the middle of nowhere and then do a 'strafing run on him at 50 m off the deck and mach 1. Scares the Hell out of me and the sonic wave laden with dust is no fun. If I were to have a heart attack that be the time. Te On 2/21/11 2:48 PM, Adam Hupe wrote: I can't top the prosthetic leg or the cow suspended on top of a telephone pole like Sonny found but you can count on strange happenings if you spend enough time in the desert. One time while climbing a mountain by Area 51, Dr Ted Bunch, Zann and I were startled by a jet flying below our altitude. It flew so close to use sideways that I could see the pilots face and helmet. Needless to say, it was going so fast that we were startled when it flew by. Luckily, nobody lost their footing. Ted was angry but Zann and I found it amusing. I have been startled by sonic booms several times by unseen craft. You can actually feel the sound if this makes sense. The wildlife never ceases to interest me. It amazing me how tough creatures and early man have to be to survive desert conditions. I have also seen giant cat tracks among other things and would not want to run into one. Take Care, Adam - Original Message From: Adam Hupe To: Adam Sent: Mon, February 21, 2011 1:08:08 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Strange things found while hunting for meteorites : ) I have seen what looked like an open grave discovered by Guido's wife, Joan and Zann. There was a perfect rectangle dug several feet deep out in the middle of nowhere. Perhaps some gangster dug it to make a point when Vegas was under mob control. We continue to check it from time-to-time to make sure it isn't buried over. Caches of old casino chips have been stashed in secret places throughout the desert. We were shown one location where tokens numbered in the thousands with several rare ones. They were coming out of concrete, put there in an unsuccessful effort to destroy them. It looked like fossil negatives where they fell out. A four hour hike from our house will take you to a very old aircraft wreck. A short hike will take you to petroglypts and a water fall. I once found a dead turtle with a transmitter hooked to its back. This was while hiking with Sonny and Rob. We stumbled onto a hidden dwelling surrounded by bushes with no power or utilities and a sign that said keep the F--- OUT. We took it seriously and backed out of there slowly. We figured it was somebody growing product or the kind of lab that one would not want to deal with. We found a stolen SUV hidden in a canyon and reported its GPS coordinates to the police. One time, I was startled by a dog running up to me in the middle of nowhere with six pack of beer strapped around its neck. I then met the toothless owner who told me not to be afraid because Buddy or Bud for short doesn't bite very hard or all that often. He then drank one of the beers and offered me one. I think I was more afraid of the owner than the dog. Happy Hunting, Adam __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Re: [meteorite-list] changed to: Trials and Tribulations We'll Be living With For a While
Why not just slice them up, flood the market with large slices to drive the price down, that way we can ALL afford a huge slice, and give them their 25%?? If there are that many stones floating around would that not be an option?? That way people that have always wanted a nice big slice could afford one. I have always been told it was better to make a fast nickel than a slow dime. I am sure if the price was down around .25 to .50/gr people would be buying them like crazy. Stuart McD Jason Utas meteorite...@gmail.com wrote: Wouldn't the signed contracts dictate that Steve only return 25% of what was found? Since the agreement was 25/75 (mentioned in the video), the issue, it seems, could be entirely settled if Steve turned 25% of the finds over to the landowners. If the money's not there, it seems to me like that would be the quickest and easiest means of settling the dispute. Unless there's some reason for Steve to hold on to it all even though he can't sell it at present...that would seem to be the easiest solution. I see no reason not to do that, aside from the fact that the farmers wouldn't necessarily be getting money for their rocks. But since it doesn't look like they're getting any anyway, at least they'd have less reason to think they'd been cheated, which is clearly the case given what was said in the video. Jason On Tue, Feb 22, 2011 at 8:38 AM, cdtuc...@cox.net wrote: Bill, Phil, list, It sounds like you and Phil are saying the same thing. Albeit in totally diligent ways. I hate to say this but many of us agree with both of you. Since Picasso, tiffany's and Lindsay Lohan are not too likely to become partners in this venture. The venture may indeed turn out to be a flop. I said it earlier that I know Steve has tried marketing these space gems. But, it sounds like what I am hearing is that time is ticking and since the de Beers had two things lacking here. Mega bucks and a monopoly on virtually all of the worlds diamond caches. This seems to NOT be the case with Steve and his cartel. By Steve's own admission the money is tight. Others are already competing for sales of these gems that they possess. And nobody is buying them. Who could blame them? The potential for fake stones is uncontrollable. Everything on the planet is being faked today and when you can fake something with as little as a piece of paper. Well, this is simply to easy to fake. With trust now at the forefront, how do we know these stones came from meteorites? Please. I trust Steve and know him to be honest but, you cannot depend on that in the real world. I feel for this whole group because as I said before they are all good people but, unless De Beers bails them out or they change the game plan and sell meteorites. Nothing short of a miracle is going to save this venture. They say in Hollywood that any press is good press so. this may be good for the show but looking at the big picture. IMHO this should end as quickly as possible. Carl Carl or Debbie Esparza Meteoritemax bill kies parkforest...@hotmail.com wrote: Steve, If I'm correct, you're saying the deal was a flop and everyone has to take a gig. Disclaimers like this might help divert blame in the business world but where does this leave humble collectors with no agenda other than the desire to pick up a few space rocks when the rare opportunity presents itself? Surely you remember those days, even though you aren't a collector, as they were not all that long ago. Maybe you should return all the material you can. Try to make these people happy and live up to the respect you convinced them you were worthy of. Bill To: altm...@meteorite-martin.de; meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com From: meteorh...@aol.com Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2011 04:26:35 + Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] The Trials and Tribulations in Dealing withLando wners Hello List, Wow, what an outpouring of comments today. Let me bring all of you up to speed on this. Five years ago, I partnered with around 10 or so friends and they combined some money, and I offered up some time and we started hunting for meteorites together. We choose to go to a certain location in Kansas where pallasites had been found in the past. We chose this location after I had my success locating some pallasite meteorites at the Brenham strewnfield. We got land leases to hunt, without any promise of any big money, no talk of Millions, or thousands or even hundreds of dollars to anyone. We just started hunting and we started finding meteorites. Some of my friends, at least 8 of us in the group, were very connected meteorite dealers and we decided to try to sell some of our finds, we tried and we tried and we tried, and we sold one meteorite. We
Re: [meteorite-list] Open Court
LOL! LOL! LOL! Stuart McD Richard Kowalski damoc...@yahoo.com wrote: Ok, Judge Judy just ended, Judge Alex is on now, but I'll take a minute to post. There are so many interesting threads on this list and one extremely boring one filled with nothing but gossip and opinions. Well like the other thing that everyone else has, I have an opinion too. I see one angry framer. OK I see Steve's response. OK Who do I believe? I haven't seen the contract. I haven't seen a transcript of the meeting where they came to an agreement. I wasn't there. The parties involved are in court as I write this. Since I have no involvement in the case and don't have anywhere near all of the facts, I'll sit and wait to see what the court decides. I'm just surprised that the meteorite hunter is automatically considered to be at fault by many in the community. Ohh, People's Court is on too! Gotta go. -- Richard Kowalski Full Moon Photography IMCA #1081 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list -- Stuart McDaniel Lawndale, NC __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] The Trials and Tribulations in Dealing with Landowners
CorrectAnd from what I understand, finding them of any size unfractured suitable for jewelry is even more rare. almi...@localnet.com wrote: Greetings Darren and all, The link you give is for terrestrial peridot. Steve is trying to sell peridot from space rocks which is more unique. If you just want peridot then there is plenty of that. If you want peridot from space rocks there are only about 40 some falls and finds of this type of material making it much more rare. --AL Mitterling Quoting Darren Garrison cyna...@charter.net: On Sun, 20 Feb 2011 22:00:28 -0500, you wrote: It is my understanding that they are considerably more rare than diamonds yet are priced well below the cost of an equivalent flawless diamond. http://www.arizona-peridot.com/Peridot_Prices.html __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list -- Stuart McDaniel Lawndale, NC __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Strange things found while hunting for meteorites : )
There wasn't a body in that dune was there??? wahlpe...@aol.com wrote: Hi All, Last week while exploring a new area in Nevada I made a strange discovery. I was in an area that was composed of numerous small sand dunes and blowouts almost like a small dry lake bed. I walked along the edge of a small sand dune started to find small pieces of a ceramic material. The material was sand blasted and appeared to be very old. Still having no idea what the material could be I soon found out. 75' from my location I could see what looked like a leg. Two years prior to this find while I was scouting for new areas I made a similar discovery. It was a human leg with a shoe attached and a motorcycle lying on the edge of the road with a women standing next to a unconscious man. You can't imagine the thought that was going through my mind at this time. Holy crap, miles from anywhere, no phone service, an unconscious man lying on the shoulder of the road with his leg lying 20' away. My main thought was to check out the patient and notify the local authorities. The man was in critical condition but still breathing . The leg was a prosthetic limb that had fallen off during the accident. To make a long story short , a large elk ran in front of the motorcyclist and caused them to crash. 1 1/2 hours later he was flown to a hospital in California. Now back to my new find . It was an old prosthetic leg that was lying next to a small sand dune . The leg had eroded out of the dune. As i started to get the camera out to take a photograph Brix started to investigate the object. I could just see Brix running off with the leg! The leg appeared to be very old. I just wonder what is next, hopefully no more legs! I hope to have a few picture up soon of my latest discovery. Sonny www.nevadameteorites.com __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list -- Stuart McDaniel Lawndale, NC __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] A Survey for Collectors
Question #1 - Rarity, freshness, uniqueness, aesthetics - in that order Question #2 - Dealers based on what the market will bear and that gotta have factor. Question #3 - I would say Achondrites due to their variations and uniqueness. CC's also for their possible life connection. Question #4 - I think most are extremely overpriced. They are unique and I feel people cash in on that. Question #5 - I agree with the previous answer that Lunar and Martian meteorites will retain their value the best along with pallasites, perhaps Angrite's value will increase if they are proven to be from Mercury. Thunder Stone stanleygr...@hotmail.com wrote: Question #1 - Rarety, uniqness and aesthetics - in that order Question #2 - I would say dealer websites are the starting point Question #3 - I would say CV's, CO's and CK's, I see the most growth in CC's as there as the facination with them containing carbon and the possible like to life Question #4 - I think some are extreamly overvalued - falls for one. Also, a whethered OC has little value at all... there is a very wide range. Question #5 - I think the Lunars and Martian meteorites will retain their value the best, perhaps Angrite's value will increase if they are prooven to be from Mercury Greg S. Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2011 11:14:30 -0600 From: mars...@gmail.com To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] A Survey for Collectors Discovering my sale of The 2011 Global Meteorite Price Report on eBay, a journalist for a major international magazine now seeks my opinion of how we value the specimens in our collections. I think there are many other folks on the m-list who could help me clarify my thoughts before I respond. Please feel free to respond as succinctly and in as few words as possible to any or all of the questions below. If you do not want your name, rank and serial number to appear attached to your opinion please indicate so in your response to the m-list (or privately to me), otherwise you may end up with your name in an international periodical. Thanks to all for their thoughtful responses. - Kevin 1. What are the most important factors in terms of collectability for a given specimen? Would you emphasize the rarity, the science, the history, the freshness, the aesthetics, or...? 2. Who or what establishes market value? Are meteorite prices being established at auction, in Tucson, on dealer websites, in Morocco, on eBay, in private trades...? 3. What are the most undervalued meteorites or categories of meteorite? In what categories do you see the most potential for growth? 4. Do you believe that meteorites are undervalued or overvalued overall, in comparison to other collectibles such as fossils or coins or wristwatches or contemporary art? 5. What long-term meteorite market developments would you be willing to forecast? Kevin Kichinka Tambor de Alajuela www.theartofcollectingmeteorites.com www.LaQ-CostaRica.com __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list -- Stuart McDaniel Lawndale, NC __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] AD (again!) for Libyan Desert Glass 191 grams
I got it too. Jim Wooddell jimwoodd...@gmail.com wrote: This one made it. I am having trouble too! Jim On Fri, Feb 18, 2011 at 2:14 AM, dave entropyd...@ntlworld.com wrote: Seems that none of my submissions are getting to the list. If anyone IS getting these emails could they please advise me?! Sorry if this is a double or even post. I am having probs posting to the Metlist! 191g of LDG complete with impacted pebbles and a wonderful tactility!! thanks and sorry for repost! http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=270708008081ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT dave IMCA #0092 Sec.BIMS __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list -- Stuart McDaniel Lawndale, NC __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] RE Where Did We Come From?
That was an awesome show.very informative. My wife loved it too!! Good job Ruben!! I bet NdGT is cool to work with. Carl 's carloselgua...@hotmail.com wrote: Hey Ruben, Caught the first 15 minutes! Great job! Carl2 Ruben wrote: ...The NOVA ScienceNOW episode entitled “Where Did We Come From? “will air on Wednesday, February 16, 2011... __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list -- Stuart McDaniel Lawndale, NC __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] He's at it Again!!
Looks like our friend is at it again, this time making claims associates with the IMCA and some non-profit organization(his) that brings up no results in a Google search. Your purchase will be 80% tax deductible with the money going to his own organization. http://cgi.ebay.com/North-American-Lunar-Olivine-Gabbronorite-Breccia-/120685651786?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0hash=item1c196ce74a Buyer beware :-) -- Stuart McDaniel Lawndale, NC __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Possible Meteorite Spotted Over Philly
Wonder if anyone got it on camera?? JoshuaTreeMuseum joshuatreemus...@embarqmail.com wrote: http://www.myfoxphilly.com/dpp/news/local_news/021411-possible-meteorite-spotted-over-philadelphia Possible Meteorite Spotted Over Philly Fox 29 has received several reports of an object that resembled a meteor that has spotted in the sky near the Philadelphia Navy Yard facility. The incident happened before 12:45 p.m. ET, according to witnesses who called Fox 29. There are also reports on Twitter and Facebook about the incident. Fox 29 TV reporter Chris O'Connell also saw the object, which he described as majestic and beautiful, at about 12:35 p.m. as he was driving on I-95 near the airport. A Fox 29 viewer spotted the object at 12:36 p.m. in Delaware. There also have been several reports of similar occurrences today in Connecticut and New York. Meteorites are naturally occurring objects that originate in space and survive a fall through Earth's atmosphere. Most are remnants of asteroids or possibly comets. The Navy Yard facility is on the Delaware River, which is also used as a flight path to Philadelphia International Airport. The American Meteor Society track meteorite spottings but has not yet posted anything today in its Web site. If you saw the object, we could like you to contact our Newsdesk at fox29.newsd...@foxtv.com. -- Phil Whitmer __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list -- Stuart McDaniel Lawndale, NC __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Possible Meteorite Spotted Over Philly
If I remember correctly isn't 12:45 PM during the day time?? Just a few hours ago. Mike Hankey mike.han...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks for sending this out Phil. There have been over 20 reports to the AMS in the last hour about this. That is a lot of reports in a short amount of time for a night time fireball, so it must have been pretty significant. I ran a quick plot on the AMS reports and it doesn't look good: http://www.mikesastrophotos.com/comets/daytime-fireball-makes-waves-in-philly-2011-02-14/ On Mon, Feb 14, 2011 at 1:58 PM, JoshuaTreeMuseum joshuatreemus...@embarqmail.com wrote: http://www.myfoxphilly.com/dpp/news/local_news/021411-possible-meteorite-spotted-over-philadelphia Possible Meteorite Spotted Over Philly Fox 29 has received several reports of an object that resembled a meteor that has spotted in the sky near the Philadelphia Navy Yard facility. The incident happened before 12:45 p.m. ET, according to witnesses who called Fox 29. There are also reports on Twitter and Facebook about the incident. Fox 29 TV reporter Chris O'Connell also saw the object, which he described as majestic and beautiful, at about 12:35 p.m. as he was driving on I-95 near the airport. A Fox 29 viewer spotted the object at 12:36 p.m. in Delaware. There also have been several reports of similar occurrences today in Connecticut and New York. Meteorites are naturally occurring objects that originate in space and survive a fall through Earth's atmosphere. Most are remnants of asteroids or possibly comets. The Navy Yard facility is on the Delaware River, which is also used as a flight path to Philadelphia International Airport. The American Meteor Society track meteorite spottings but has not yet posted anything today in its Web site. If you saw the object, we could like you to contact our Newsdesk at fox29.newsd...@foxtv.com. -- Phil Whitmer __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list -- Stuart McDaniel Lawndale, NC __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Men Renewed
Woo Hoo..WAY TO GO!!! Michael Blood mlbl...@cox.net wrote: We are all very fortunate to have two such stellar Representatives for the meteorite community AND, we get to See a bunch more shows! WAY TO GO, DUDES! Michael PS: If anyone thinks this show fails to do anything for the meteorite Community and just generates more, I found a meteorite nuts, then They spent no time at all in Geoff's room. I was there many times and It was PACKED with NEW COLLECTORS drawn to the wonders of the Meteorite world by this show. I personally watched Geoff generously Educate new collectors as well as infuse them with his respect and awe For the beauty of meteorites. (Of course, Lisa Marie AND his wonderful, Beloved Libby also brought brightness and cheer into that room, which Was always THE most packed room at the show). On 2/8/11 9:47 PM, Met. Eric Wichman Escondido e...@meteoritesusa.com wrote: Congrats Steve and Geoff on Season 3 of Meteorite men! Regards, Eric On 2/8/2011 8:53 PM, Pete Pete wrote: Great exposure for our passion! Today 4.3 million viewers, tomorrow ze vorld! http://www.variety.com/article/VR1118031777?categoryid=14cs=1cmpid=RSS%7CNe ws%7CLatestNews http://www.variety.com/article/VR1118031777?categoryid=14cs=1cmpid=RSS%7CNe ws%7CLatestNews Science Channel renews 'Meteorite Men' Series to return for third season By Stuart Miller 'Big Love' says goodbye Exclusive: Science Channel has ordered a third season of Meteorite Men. Produced by the LMNO Cable Group, skein follows co-hosts Geoff Notkin and Steve Arnold as the search for outer space objects -- some more than 40 million years old -- that have landed on Earth. Eric Schotz is exec producer. Discovery-owned Science Channel is faring well with An Idiot Abroad, its new skein with Ricky Gervais, Stephen Merchant and Karl Pilkington. Through two episodes, Idiot -- where Pilkington offers his off-kilter take on the Seven Wonders of the World -- is the net's most-watched series ever in the 25-54 demo and highest rated in 18-49. Since its Jan. 22 premiere, 4.3 million viewers have tuned in. __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list -- Stuart McDaniel Lawndale, NC __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] TUCSON AUCTION ETIQUETTE/ AN APOLOGY IN ORDER?
Mr. Oatman.I believe apoligies NEED to be in order(from you). Count Deiro countde...@earthlink.net wrote: Thank you Jason. Count Deiro IMCA 3536 -Original Message- From: Jason Utas meteorite...@gmail.com Sent: Feb 7, 2011 7:36 PM To: Meteorite-list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] TUCSON AUCTION ETIQUETTE/ AN APOLOGY IN ORDER? Michael, All, I'd like to point out that the above articles do not shed any light on the professional demeanor of our own Count (Robert Deiro). To quote one of the articles: Robert Deiro, who started the auction business in 1976 and sold it to his son in 1991, is estranged from his son. He's embarrassed his name is involved even though he isn't. This has really been hard on me, the retiree said. I'm sorry if this brings any unwanted/unpleasant things up, but I felt that this should be clarified, as the published articles were very misleading if the above lines were not pointed out. Regards, Jason On Mon, Feb 7, 2011 at 7:14 PM, mike oatman mkoat...@gmail.com wrote: Dear Meteorite List and Count Deiro, I read with interest the posts regarding the 2011 Tucson Auction. I have attended the Blood auction in past years and always enjoyed myself. The Count's post seems to indicate that Michael's auction was conducted poorly. I realize that you have emailed that it was not your intent to refer to the Blood Auction specifically, but you must agree that it seems you are directly insulting Mr. Blood and the girls working the ring. I had a chance to google your Auction Firm and it seems that the Deiro Auctioneer's have defrauded many well respected members of the community. Since you mentioned that you serve as counsel to the firms I assume that all of these individuals and charities have been paid the proceeds they had due and that your firms are conducting business in a reputable manner. Sometimes one needs to look in the mirror before offering unsolicited advice to another. In my opinion public apologies are in order. http://www.lvrj.com/news/claudine-williams-memory-deserves-better-than-this-81882842.html http://www.lvrj.com/news/you-win-some-and-lose-some-trying-to-help-readers-99743969.html http://www.allbusiness.com/government/government-bodies-offices-regional-local/14198362-1.html Sincerely, Michael Oatman Count Deiro wrote the following I owned and have operated some of the largest auction firms in the nation since receiving my Certified Auctioneer Institute professional designation from Indiana University in 1985. Prior to that, I attended Missouri Auction School and served an apprenticeship at Sothebys in New York. I became licensed in eight states. I was the Charter President of the Nevada State Auctioneers Association. My firms have sold, and I have gaveled down, over a billion dollars in real and personal property, even some meteorites at this auction last year. I have sold my auction interests to family members and have been of counsel to our firms and other companies for the past 15 years. So the qualifying remarks having been made…here we go: SOME (NOT ALL) AUCTION POLICIES AND TECHNIQUES Auctioneers have a legal fiduciary obligation to Consignors. They should be knowledgeable of the items they sell and should be able to pronounce names and make accurate descriptions. An auctioneer has to know the retail value of every lot and have examples to quote to the audience, so that he can open the bid at a sum that encourages bidders to bid on the money. Opening a $500 item at $20 is incompetence. Getting an opening bid that is off the money...say $100 on a $500 item and then asking for $120 instead of $200 is something you learn not to do the first day at auction school. It is critical that auctioneers make the audience believe they know what they are selling, and what it’s worth, so that bidders will have confidence to bid what is being asked. Failing to answer legitimate questions from bidders ruins credibility. Never say “I have $200”. Auctioneers don’t have anything. Better to say “at $200”, or $200 is bid.” Taking a bid from an opening bidder, and then acquiring another bid and then not go immediately back to the opening bidder is insulting to him. Work the first to bidders dry…then take a competing bid. Saves time and respects the first bidders. All auctioneers should employ trained ring persons. They are invaluable in encouraging bidders, showing lots, and answering questions like “where we at?” or “what’s the bid?” It is not accepted practice for an auctioneer to bid on his own behalf, even if he does not own the goods being sold. If he does, he should never announce the fact, as it tends to discourage bidding and hurts his consignors and credibility. He should have several house numbers to sell a passed lot to, or a lot that didn’t meet an undisclosed reserve, or a lot he has bought. Do not disclose reserves. Do not announce
Re: [meteorite-list] TUCSON AUCTION ETIQUETTE/ AN APOLOGY IN ORDER?
I thought the same thing too. I have never seen an auctioneer close bid so fast. Almost like they were in a hurry. Richard Montgomery rickm...@earthlink.net wrote: I watched the auction ffrom California via Ruben's broadcast...which was awesome!...the only thing I noticed that struck me as a bit odd was how fast Michael closed the items, and I kept wondering if more time was taken that bids would have increased substantially. (I don't think this was on purpose...please don't mis-understand!) There were some real low wins on some pretty amazing pieces (like the TFL thin-section)... Hat's off to Greg H. for a fantastic donation to a great auction! Even though I haven't personally met any of you, after watching, reading all the posts and pictures and videos this year I feel as if I have. Thanks everyone. Richard Montgomery Goldierocks - Original Message - From: Linton Rohr linton...@earthlink.net To: mike oatman mkoat...@gmail.com Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Monday, February 07, 2011 10:36 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] TUCSON AUCTION ETIQUETTE/ AN APOLOGY IN ORDER? Good grief! All this post-auction bickering reminds me of the old adage, No good deed goes unpunished. I had a great time at the auction, in spite of not winning a single item, and I appreciate the efforts of all those who make it happen. I don't go expecting the tightly run ship of a world-class auction house, but to have fun with friends in the meteorite community - some old, some new, and some I've yet to meet. Is everything perfect? Of course not! We're all human and we live on planet Earth. But we should be celebrating our common interest, not quibbling over petty problems. I can understand the differing points of view, but I don't understand the point of complaining about it all. I assure you, we'll all have bigger things on our minds on our deathbeds. So hats off to Michael, Ruben, Leigh Anne, Suzanne, Lisa Marie, Twink, John, and anyone else involved. We'll have even more fun next year! Linton - Original Message - From: mike oatman mkoat...@gmail.com To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Monday, February 07, 2011 7:14 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] TUCSON AUCTION ETIQUETTE/ AN APOLOGY IN ORDER? Dear Meteorite List and Count Deiro, I read with interest the posts regarding the 2011 Tucson Auction. I have attended the Blood auction in past years and always enjoyed myself. The Count's post seems to indicate that Michael's auction was conducted poorly. I realize that you have emailed that it was not your intent to refer to the Blood Auction specifically, but you must agree that it seems you are directly insulting Mr. Blood and the girls working the ring. I had a chance to google your Auction Firm and it seems that the Deiro Auctioneer's have defrauded many well respected members of the community. Since you mentioned that you serve as counsel to the firms I assume that all of these individuals and charities have been paid the proceeds they had due and that your firms are conducting business in a reputable manner. Sometimes one needs to look in the mirror before offering unsolicited advice to another. In my opinion public apologies are in order. http://www.lvrj.com/news/claudine-williams-memory-deserves-better-than-this-81882842.html http://www.lvrj.com/news/you-win-some-and-lose-some-trying-to-help-readers-99743969.html http://www.allbusiness.com/government/government-bodies-offices-regional-local/14198362-1.html Sincerely, Michael Oatman Count Deiro wrote the following I owned and have operated some of the largest auction firms in the nation since receiving my Certified Auctioneer Institute professional designation from Indiana University in 1985. Prior to that, I attended Missouri Auction School and served an apprenticeship at Sothebys in New York. I became licensed in eight states. I was the Charter President of the Nevada State Auctioneers Association. My firms have sold, and I have gaveled down, over a billion dollars in real and personal property, even some meteorites at this auction last year. I have sold my auction interests to family members and have been of counsel to our firms and other companies for the past 15 years. So the qualifying remarks having been made…here we go: SOME (NOT ALL) AUCTION POLICIES AND TECHNIQUES Auctioneers have a legal fiduciary obligation to Consignors. They should be knowledgeable of the items they sell and should be able to pronounce names and make accurate descriptions. An auctioneer has to know the retail value of every lot and have examples to quote to the audience, so that he can open the bid at a sum that encourages bidders to bid on the money. Opening a $500 item at $20 is incompetence. Getting an opening bid that is off the money...say $100 on a $500 item and then asking for $120 instead of $200 is
Re: [meteorite-list] Your Tucson Show photos !
Great pictures Gary, keep'em coming!!! Gary Fujihara fuj...@mac.com wrote: Aloha Pierre-Marie, you can see pictures of Tucson show that I will be continually updating through next Sunday. http://bigkahuna-meteorites.com/Tucson2011.html Sent from Gary's iPhone On Jan 31, 2011, at 8:17 AM, Pelé Pierre-Marie pierremariep...@yahoo.fr wrote: Hello all, please send us your photos of the Tucson show, of the rooms with plenty and nice meteorites. I miss Tucson, and I hope to be there next year. Pierre-Marie Pele www.meteor-center.com __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list -- Stuart McDaniel Lawndale, NC __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] The Most Interesting Meteorite Man in the World
Captain Chondrite is one skeery dude!!! Adam Hupe raremeteori...@yahoo.com wrote: Here are some worth adversaries for the title: Captain Chondrite; If he can't find one, nobody can. Note his lapel logo and flaming hair (serious business): http://themeteoritesite.com/CaptainChondrite.jpg Captian Chondrite distracted by Cleopatra; He attracts all of the babes: http://themeteoritesite.com/CaptainChondrite-2.jpg Meteorite Monster, protector of the Mojave: http://themeteoritesite.com/Monster.jpg Bandito the friendly wind scorpion showing off his hoard: http://themeteoritesite.com/Shot-1.jpg Happy Hunting, Adam __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list -- Stuart McDaniel Lawndale, NC __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] OT: Cool image of ISS silouetted against partially eclipsed, sunspotted sun
That is pretty awesome! He does some great AP. Matson wrote: Picture explains all: http://legault.perso.sfr.fr/eclipse110104_solar_transit.html --Rob __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list -- Stuart McDaniel Lawndale, NC __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] OT: Delta IV heavy launching out of VAFB at 1:10 pm
Is there a live feed some where??? Matson wrote: Hi again, United Launch Alliance website is saying that the launch is being pushed back two minutes to 1:10 pm to avoid potential collision with an existing space object. Btw, this will be the largest rocket ever launched off the west coast... --Rob http://ulalaunch.com/site/pages/Launch.shtml#/13/ __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list -- Stuart McDaniel Lawndale, NC __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] AD: Meteorites Magazines
I paid back at the first of November and for the $39.95 deal/package and have not seen anything yet. I got an email saying they were shipping the goodies but I have yet to see them either. That was several weeks ago. I am starting to get worried. Ed Deckert edeck...@triad.rr.com wrote: OK, now I'm totally confused. Quote from email below regarding MHC magazine: Magazine Update: We're printing some extra back issues and will have them at the Tucson Show for those interested. If you want July, Sept, or the Nov issue please let me know ASAP! Back issues will be on sale for *$10* each from now until the Tucson Show is over. Regular price is $20!) I subscribed and so far I have only received the July issue via snail mail. AFAIK the Sept and Nov issues never materialized (delays, etc.) Now, back issues of the Sept and November issues are being offered for sale at Tucson by having extra copies printed? And January's issue is coming fast? Has anyone who subscribed to MHC Magazine gotten any other issue via snail mail beyond the premier July issue? My inquiring mind wants to know. Thanks, Ed - Original Message - From: Meteorites USA e...@meteoritesusa.com To: Meteorite-list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Monday, January 17, 2011 6:32 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] AD: Meteorites Magazines Meteorites For Sale: Having a large sale from now until the Tucson Show. Order over $250 get 10% off. See details on my meteorites for sale page. http://www.meteoritesusa.com/meteorites-for-sale/ Check out the Meteorite Auctions: Many items starting at 99 cents! http://shop.ebay.com/freel3orn/m.html Subscribe to Meteorite Hunting Collecting Magazine: 25% Off Until The Tucson Show! http://www.mhcmagazine.com/subscribe/ Magazine Update: We're printing some extra back issues and will have them at the Tucson Show for those interested. If you want July, Sept, or the Nov issue please let me know ASAP! Back issues will be on sale for *$10* each from now until the Tucson Show is over. Regular price is $20!) Everyone will start receiving their magazines direct from our printer in the coming weeks! Please let me know when you start receiving them. EVERYONE's orders with their collectibles are still shipping in the order they were received. January Issue UPDATE: Also, just a heads up on the January issue! It's coming fast, this issue will be on Planetary Defense, our beloved meteorites, and their relationship to the science of protecting our planet from those pesky 1/km+ sized asteroids. In addition there are some great aticles about meteorite hunting here in the USA, and a special article about how many meteorites actually fall on this planet each day. It's NOT what you would think. Is it more? Less? You'll just have to get a subscription to find out. Enjoy... Email or Call 760-522-2152 to order. Regards, Eric __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list -- Stuart McDaniel Lawndale, NC __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
