[meteorite-list] Meteor seen from above.
Anyone ever seen this before?...wow! http://www.nasa.gov/images/content/573236main_iss028e018218_full.jpg Graham, UK __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] New Kenya meteorite
Trying to send this again as does not seem to be getting to the listapologies if it gets through twice... Ok thenwho's flying out to look for more of this? ;-) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JsXtZpGTvok The locality as Kilimambogo between Thika and Kangunde (1 deg. 3 min. 46.3176 sec. South; 37 deg. 14 min. 22.3152 sec. East). Thanks to David from BIMS for the heads up. Graham __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] New Kenya meteorite
Another attempt at posting this to the list!!! More hereInteresting hearing them report about the Carancas poisonings at the end of the video I last posted! and in this they suggest the meteorite was spinning when it landed? http://www.nation.co.ke/News/Meteor+crashes+at+Kilimambogo/-/1056/1202250/-/13ulmhtz/-/ Posted Saturday, July 16 2011 at 17:34 An unknown mass believed to be from outer space on Saturday fell near Kilimambogo and Tala towns. Initially, there were reports of an explosion in Kangundo, Tala, Yatta and Kakuzi before an extra-terrestrial rock fell at around 10 am. Area residents say the loud sound was comparable to a bomb explosion or a crashing aircraft while others felt it was an earthquake. Police and military officers from Thika rushed to the scene at Kiumwiri village, Murang’a county. The military later took away the object for expert analysis. The black smooth rock weighing about five kilos fell at a maize plantation, 60 meters from a nearby homestead, but no one was harmed. Lt Col J.N. Vungo, the commanding officer of the 12th Engineers Battalion, said initial assessment indicate that the object was not manmade and was believed to have come from outer space. “We got conflicting reports from Kilimambogo area indicating that an aircraft had crashed or a bomb had exploded in the area and jointly with the police we mobilised our officers to find out what was happening,” he said. On locating the scene, security personnel sealed off the area, which was attracting curious residents. “We believe it is a heavenly body, probably a piece of a meteor that may have disintegrated on entering the earth’s atmosphere,” said Lt Col Vungo, who was accompanied by Thika police boss Paul Leting. Mr Vungo said reports from Ndunyu Sabuk area indicated that a bigger object was seen in the skies before it disintegrated after a loud blast. The official said according to witnesses, the object raised a cloud of dust on hitting the ground, was extremely hot and was spinning on impact. “Meteors often lose stability and fly away from their orbit, but they burn out on entering the atmosphere due to friction, Lt Col Vungo said. However, he added that it was a rare occurrence in the East African region. An eye witness Ms Jane Wangui Kibugi said she was only 50 meters away when the object fell. “I saw a cloud of dust and when I went closer I found the black smooth stone, which had dug a hole on the ground,” she said. Great to have another new fall to ponder. Graham __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Bonhams and provenance
I can't say that mixing up all their pictures/samples really instills me with confidence in a bill of sale from Bonhams! Graham On 14 April 2011 04:47, Shawn Alan photoph...@yahoo.com wrote: Yinan I would have to agree the bill of sale from a world renowned auction house says it all. Shawn Alan IMCA 1633 eBaystore http://shop.ebay.com/photophlow/m.html Bonhams and provenance Yinan Wang veomega at gmail.com Wed Apr 13 23:37:14 EDT 2011 Previous message: [meteorite-list] Bonhams and provenance Next message: [meteorite-list] AD - 7.00 g 'Moss' CO3 fall -World's no.1 hammer stone -NO RESERVE! Messages sorted by: [ date ] [ thread ] [ subject ] [ author ] Hi List, Thought I'd chime in on this subject since I'm in the auction industry. Privacy (and anonymity) is one of the principles of the auction industry. The consignor or direct previous owner is kept private unless they wish to be recognized, at which point it is up to a department's director whether or not to include them in the description of an item. Well recognized provenance, such as from The British Museum, or Nininger, would normally be shown in the description while the direct previous owner or consignor will not be unless it is agreed upon. Of course a potential buyer can certainly ask to be put in contact with the previous owner, but it's up to the consignor whether or not they want to respond. Also, a bill of sale from an auction house is usually really good for authenticity and provenance since auction houses are supposed to guarentee the titles of items. -Yinan On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 11:19 AM, valparint at aol.com wrote: That is a heckuva good question, John. I've contacted Bonhams about provenance on lots I've won and was told by the head guy that they do not release information about the consignor, but they would send an email on my behalf. So far, no consignor has responded. Sometimes Bonhams will state the name of the collection from which an item came and I've tried direct contact based on that info, to no avail. I am currently negotating the sale of a piece and the potential buyer is insistant on documentation, which I have been unable to get. Very frustrating, especially from an auction house. One would think they would live or die on provenance, especially for items that cost a bunch. Paul Swartz I have a question about the exceedingly rare meteorites in question. Why does Bonhams devalue these meteorites by stripping them of their provenance and chain of ownership history? Why are they being sold without the supporting information of where they originated from? It does not seem to be in the best interest of the buyer Best Regards, John Higgins __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list Previous message: [meteorite-list] Bonhams and provenance Next message: [meteorite-list] AD - 7.00 g 'Moss' CO3 fall -World's no.1 hammer stone -NO RESERVE! Messages sorted by: [ date ] [ thread ] [ subject ] [ author ] More information about the Meteorite-list mailing list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Bonhams Auction Zagami LOT in question and others May 17th 2011 NYC.
I agree Shawn...The first two do look lunar though...but not the ones they say...and the last looks like the NWA Chassignite 2737!!! I just looked through some others and I think several other of the lunar slices are mixed up too. They need to be told I think before they get circulated under the wrong names or folks end up getting something different from the photos when they bidnot good. Perhaps someone on this list is auctioning them through Bonhams? Graham, UK On 13 April 2011 08:12, Shawn Alan photoph...@yahoo.com wrote: Hello Listers In NYC on May 17th 2011 Bohams is having a Natural History auction and there are some nice meteorites up for auction. However, I was viewing the LOTS and I noticed that a 5.6g Zagami slice does not look like a Zagami from what I have seen and what I have owned. Here is a link to that lot http://www.bonhams.com/eur/auction/19371/lot/3168/ take a look and see if you agree with me or not. Also, I noticed other LOTS where the images do not match up with what they are auctioning off. Nakhla http://www.bonhams.com/eur/auction/19371/lot/3172/ Here is a Nakhla image from the Smithsonian http://nhb-acsmith1.si.edu/emuwebmsweb/objects/common/webmedia.php?irn=1001071 Dar al Gani 400 http://www.bonhams.com/eur/auction/19371/lot/3177/ The matrix is darker then what I have seen. From what I can tell, it should be a neutral gray and white clasts. Now I am not sure if I am correct or incorrect but I am wondering if they have mixed up the images of the LOTS or I am blind. But at any rate, take a look and see what I mean by some of the LOTS. Shawn Alan IMCA 1633 eBaystore http://shop.ebay.com/photophlow/m.html __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Bonhams Auction Zagami LOT in question and others May 17th 2011 NYC.
Most of the lots have now been changed but still one does not seem right..eg A partial slice of the lunar NWA 2727 chassignite meteorite. http://www.bonhams.com/cgi-bin/public.sh/WService=wslive_pub/pubweb/publicSite.r?sContinent=usascreen=LotDetailsiSaleItemNo=4984589iSaleNo=19371iSaleSectionNo=3sServer=http://images2.bonhams.com/sPath=2011-04/13/8295255-7-2.jpg Didn't know there were lunar chassignites!!! Think it should be 2737 and read Martian. Graham On 13 April 2011 08:22, MEM mstrema...@yahoo.com wrote: All three images might be a lunar but in no way Zagami-- a dun colored rock. Elton - Original Message From: Shawn Alan photoph...@yahoo.com To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Wed, April 13, 2011 3:12:59 AM Subject: [meteorite-list] Bonhams Auction Zagami LOT in question and others May 17th 2011 NYC. Hello Listers In NYC on May 17th 2011 Bohams is having a Natural History auction and there are some nice meteorites up for auction. However, I was viewing the LOTS and I noticed that a 5.6g Zagami slice does not look like a Zagami from what I have seen and what I have owned. Here is a link to that lot http://www.bonhams.com/eur/auction/19371/lot/3168/ take a look and see if you agree with me or not. Also, I noticed other LOTS where the images do not match up with what they are auctioning off. Nakhla http://www.bonhams.com/eur/auction/19371/lot/3172/ Here is a Nakhla image from the Smithsonian http://nhb-acsmith1.si.edu/emuwebmsweb/objects/common/webmedia.php?irn=1001071 Dar al Gani 400 http://www.bonhams.com/eur/auction/19371/lot/3177/ The matrix is darker then what I have seen. From what I can tell, it should be a neutral gray and white clasts. Now I am not sure if I am correct or incorrect but I am wondering if they have mixed up the images of the LOTS or I am blind. But at any rate, take a look and see what I mean by some of the LOTS. Shawn Alan IMCA 1633 eBaystore http://shop.ebay.com/photophlow/m.html __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Bonhams and provenance
Seems they have been working on it...they have also added that they are fro a Canadian collector. Graham On 13 April 2011 20:21, Rob Wesel - Mobile Device nakhla...@comcast.net wrote: I have contacted Bonhams and they will be sorting the planetaries out. valpar...@aol.com wrote: That is a heckuva good question, John. I've contacted Bonhams about provenance on lots I've won and was told by the head guy that they do not release information about the consignor, but they would send an email on my behalf. So far, no consignor has responded. Sometimes Bonhams will state the name of the collection from which an item came and I've tried direct contact based on that info, to no avail. I am currently negotating the sale of a piece and the potential buyer is insistant on documentation, which I have been unable to get. Very frustrating, especially from an auction house. One would think they would live or die on provenance, especially for items that cost a bunch. Paul Swartz I have a question about the exceedingly rare meteorites in question. Why does Bonhams devalue these meteorites by stripping them of their provenance and chain of ownership history? Why are they being sold without the supporting information of where they originated from? It does not seem to be in the best interest of the buyer Best Regards, John Higgins __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list Rob Wesel www.nakhladogmeteorites.com -- Sent from my mobile phone. Please excuse my brevity and any typos. __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] freebies to go
$10.2765 a gallon here in the UK Graham On 8 April 2011 11:28, steve arnold stevenarnold60...@yahoo.com wrote: Good morning list.5:30 AM RISE AND SHINE! Hey I have lots more freebies to give away.Unclassed stones and black campo crystals. 8 people have chimed in and I still have 12 more to go.Remember USA only because of postage rates.Almost as bad as gas prices.In chicago area its over $4 a gallon.Anyway,have a great day all. Steve R.Arnold, Chicago! __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Park Forest Main Mass
Just wondering why the Park Forest Main mass looks old and weathered in the photograph? Was it found much later. I was expecting to see fresh crust and matrix. I would never have guessed it was Park Forest. Graham, UK On 27 March 2011 09:38, Steve Witt stelo...@yahoo.com wrote: Bill, Was wondering if you any other detail of this main mass. Finder? Location? Date of find? etc. thanx, Steve Steve Witt IMCA #9020 http://imca.cc/ --- On Sat, 3/26/11, bill kies parkforest...@hotmail.com wrote: From: bill kies parkforest...@hotmail.com Subject: [meteorite-list] Park Forest Main Mass To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Saturday, March 26, 2011, 9:44 PM Thanks to Mark Hammergren, we have images of the Park Forest main mass. At least, the largest one I know of. 5260 grams. http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y249/razor_wire/pfmainedit.jpg http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y249/razor_wire/pfmmedit.jpg http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y249/razor_wire/pfmainedit2.jpg Bill __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Park Forest Main Mass
Thanks for the reply Mark, An interesting story and explains the rust. I wonder where the main mass of Park Forest resides at this moment then. Would be very interesting to find out if he still has it or did indeed sell it to someoneperhaps someone on this list? Graham On 27 March 2011 18:26, Mark Hammergren mhammerg...@yahoo.com wrote: The Olympia Fields gentleman whose lawn this stone fell into returned to town more than a week after the fall. When he got back, he saw a hole in his front yard, along with a whole bunch of stone chips in his driveway. He assumed the city parks department, which was maintaining a park nearby, had left this mess on his property. So he swept up and threw away the stone chips (yes, this is painful, I know!), and called the city to come repair his lawn. The workers dug up the hole, found the meteorite, and recognized it for what it was. Then, amazingly enough, they knocked on his door, gave it back to him, told him they thought it was a meteorite and likely worth a lot of money, and went on their way. He called me a little while after that, said he thought he had a meteorite, and wondered if I could verify that's what it was. I'd received hundreds of such inquiries, with only a few of them proving to be meteorites, so I was doubtful. But when he gave me his address, which was right at the high mass end of the strewnfield, and described the stone, I had a suspicion his rock might be the real thing. When I got a chance to examine it in person, it was unmistakable. Quite rusted from spending two weeks in soggy sod, yes, but a genuine Park Forest meteorite. I took some photos and weighed it, then took him and the stone down to the Field Museum, where their meteorite collections manager (at the time) examined it herself. I walked the gentleman back to his car, advised him that while his meteorite was of significant scientific interest, it was also quite valuable to collectors (museum ethics forbids me from giving specific appraisals). I made sure he understood that since the meteorite fell on his property, he legally owned the meteorite, and that no other public or private organizations had a claim on it. He asked if I could recommend a meteorite dealer, but museum ethics similarly forbid me from recommending a specific dealer. I referred him to IMCA, and also said he could simply Google meteorite dealer. He left, and I never heard any more from him. If someone has subsequently dealt with the owner, and knows more about what happened to the stone, I'd be interested in hearing about it. Best regards, Mark --- On Sun, 3/27/11, Michael Gilmer meteoritem...@gmail.com wrote: From: Michael Gilmer meteoritem...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Park Forest Main Mass To: e-mail ensoramanda ensorama...@ntlworld.com Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Sunday, March 27, 2011, 9:04 AM Hi Graham, Bill, and List, That was my initial reaction as well. I have never previously seen the photos that Bill posted, and I was expecting velvety black crust as well. This stone looks like it has seen better days. I'd be curious to hear more about the circumstances of it - where it was found, when, etc. Best regards and happy huntings, MikeG -- Mike Gilmer - Galactic Stone Ironworks Meteorites Website - http://www.galactic-stone.com Facebook - http://www.facebook.com/galacticstone News Feed - http://www.galactic-stone.com/rss/126516 Twitter - http://twitter.com/galacticstone EOM - http://www.encyclopedia-of-meteorites.com/collection.aspx?id=1564 --- On 3/27/11, e-mail ensoramanda ensorama...@ntlworld.com wrote: Just wondering why the Park Forest Main mass looks old and weathered in the photograph? Was it found much later. I was expecting to see fresh crust and matrix. I would never have guessed it was Park Forest. Graham, UK On 27 March 2011 09:38, Steve Witt stelo...@yahoo.com wrote: Bill, Was wondering if you any other detail of this main mass. Finder? Location? Date of find? etc. thanx, Steve Steve Witt IMCA #9020 http://imca.cc/ --- On Sat, 3/26/11, bill kies parkforest...@hotmail.com wrote: From: bill kies parkforest...@hotmail.com Subject: [meteorite-list] Park Forest Main Mass To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Saturday, March 26, 2011, 9:44 PM Thanks to Mark Hammergren, we have images of the Park Forest main mass. At least, the largest one I know of. 5260 grams. http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y249/razor_wire/pfmainedit.jpg http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y249/razor_wire/pfmmedit.jpg http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y249/razor_wire/pfmainedit2.jpg Bill __ Visit the Archives
Re: [meteorite-list] Rocks from Space Picture of the Day - March 21, 2011
Amazing and beautiful! size? Graham On 21 March 2011 03:10, Michael Johnson mich...@rocksfromspace.org wrote: http://www.rocksfromspace.org/March_21_2011.html --- __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] 8.9 Quake in Japan, 10 meter Tsunami, Hope Dirk and others are ok
Dirk must be ok as he just replied to my email about places to visit with meteoritesI am supposed to be flying out there next week, but not sure what will happen now...early days. No details from him about damage but the Tsunami was devastating along the coastal regions and is now rushing across the Pacific...buildings in major cities have survived remarkably well it seems...hope everyone else in its way will be ok. Dirk was implying that other earthquakes may yet be triggered however. Graham, UK On 11 March 2011 07:28, Brian Cox searchingfor...@sbcglobal.net wrote: Just heard on TV and online that the earthquake in Japan was upgraded to 8.9 from 8.8 with 10 meter Tsunamis off the coast. I hope Dirk and others we know in Japan are alright. All the best. Brian http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/42023385/ns/world_news-asiapacific/?gt1=43001 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] General List Policies/ rules
Well said, Graham On 10 March 2011 05:38, habibi abdelaziz azizhab...@yahoo.com wrote: hello all, first i want to say that this is good news that two big hunters are home with there family,and enjoying life again,very happy to har this fantastic news after spending two month in a bad dream, segond i think that the list rules must improve and change to better rules, that can keep this list more polit and that we can make it international with a big audiance,and more members, one thing rules are important. 1= no one has the right to publicly attack an other one, this is the limit of the democracy you can attack a person opinion but not the person himself as an entire entite, you do not agree with X or Y adea but do not attack him, this two difrent things 2= private life and personnal matter must not be on the list we discuss stones we have to leave the rest out of the list, 3= if we have meteorite as a passion we have also other bissuness and other friend and family anyone googling your name will find all the private fight on the list and will take you as that, as he is not in the context, and all the post on the list are in the archives and will stay forever so we must think to protect our reputation for now and the futur,like usinf other id in the list so if i m out of the list and i read MB post i will think to many bad things ambiguites,so indirectly even if you want to help MF you are with good or bad well destroying his reputation ,personnal matter must stay out:you do not have the right: absolutely not everyone has his own problem , but never , i say never, no one has the right to attack anyone you can argue adea or opinion but never a private or a confidence or a personal issue must not be public, no one is immune against problems, life is full of surprise but do not bring that to the list; on other hand a civilised and polit debat are always welcome; i do not see also why a man hurt an other what are the goals, you think this will help, the matter to stop someone from the list or let him back must be a democratic issue discusion between art and a team voted by list member to manage the list and helping art to take a wise decision my 1.dirhams __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Where is all the Murchison???
and then there's my prized collection piece here. :-) http://www.rocksfromspace.org/March_5_2010.html Graham On 9 March 2011 07:54, Jeff Kuyken i...@meteorites.com.au wrote: Hi Richard all, I've been watching Murchison pretty carefully over the last 12-24mths. There has been a somewhat steep incline in price that I believe is probably mainly due to the amount of media attention it has received during that time. Personally I think it's over-priced and I would not expect the price to stay there. eBay auctions often go unsold (probably because the prices are too high) and most pieces do seem to be under 2g. But all that said, if anyone wants any Murchison stones for the current prices of $150-$200/g just let me know. There are several stones available over here from 10-80g. Cheers, Jeff Kuyken Meteorites Australia www.meteorites.com.au Vice President - I.M.C.A. Inc. www.imca.cc - Original Message - From: Richard Kowalski damoc...@yahoo.com To: meteorite list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2011 6:36 AM Subject: [meteorite-list] Where is all the Murchison??? Recently some of us had a discussion on Facebook about how rare Murchison seems to be. Rarely do you see as much as a gram available. The Heritage Auction has a huge Murchison, 535.9g individual (http://fineart.ha.com/common/view_item.php?Sale_No=6061Lot_No=49046) Maybe I've missed them, or not privy to their availability, but where is all the Murchison between a gram and and this largest individual? Anyone? -- Richard Kowalski Full Moon Photography IMCA #1081 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Another Odd Item on Ebay
If it relates to all the others he is selling at the moment as meteorites they are definitely not meteorites...most look like hematite. Graham On 9 March 2011 23:47, Ed Deckert edeck...@triad.rr.com wrote: The photos are out of focus or too dark, so it could be anything. - Original Message - From: Thunder Stone stanleygr...@hotmail.com To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2011 6:10 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Another Odd Item on Ebay List: Found this on Ebay - quite odd I must say. I love the first sentance in the description, This Specimen is very similar to a golf ball I think that's a red flag. The question is: What is it? http://cgi.ebay.com/Iron-Ball-Meteorite-Five-Colors-Surface-Mexico-/180635286607?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0hash=item2a0eb3bc4f Greg S. __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] A chance photo discovery
Thanks Darren for posting that linkI was also fascinated by the other old photos of the time and the Arts programmeI had no idea about any of that happening in the USA then. Graham On 26 February 2011 01:37, Darren Garrison cyna...@charter.net wrote: I was browsing through a PDF of photos of New Deal WPA activities, when on page 33 I found Archeological digs employed WPA labor, including this excavation at the site of the Odessa meteor crater in Ector County, Texas. http://www.fdrlibrary.marist.edu/pdfs/ppDIRwpa.pdf __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Comet Hunter's First Images on the Ground
Great comet images.they seem to show up clear detail of layering and strata in many places which seems to have an interesting influence on the crater forms. Graham, UK On 15 February 2011 16:25, Ron Baalke baa...@zagami.jpl.nasa.gov wrote: http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/news/news.cfm?release=2011-054 Comet Hunter's First Images on the Ground Jet Propulsion Laboratory February 15, 2011 PASADENA, Calif. -- Mission controllers at NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory, Pasadena, Calif., have begun receiving the first of 72 anticipated images of comet Tempel 1 taken by NASA's Stardust spacecraft. The first six, most distant approach images are available at http://www.nasa.gov/stardust and http://www.jpl.nasa.gov. Additional images, including those from closest approach, are being downlinked in chronological order and will be available later in the day. A news conference previously planned for 10 a.m. PST (1 p.m. EST) will be held later in the day, to allow scientists more time to analyze the data and images. A new time will be announced later this morning. Stardust-NExT is a low-cost mission that expands on the investigation of comet Tempel 1 initiated by NASA's Deep Impact spacecraft. JPL, a division of the California Institute of Technology in Pasadena, manages Stardust-NExT for NASA's Science Mission Directorate, Washington, D.C. Joe Veverka of Cornell University, Ithaca, N.Y., is the mission's principal investigator. Lockheed Martin Space Systems, Denver, built the spacecraft and manages day-to-day mission operations. More information about Stardust-NExT is available at http://stardustnext.jpl.nasa.gov . DC Agle 818-393-9011 Jet Propulsion Laboratory, Pasadena, Calif. a...@jpl.nasa.gov Dwayne Brown 202-358-1726 NASA Headquarters, Washington dwayne.c.br...@nasa.gov Blaine Friedlander 607-254-6235 Cornell University, Ithaca, N.Y. b...@cornell.edu 2011-054 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Unknown irons at ASU
Looking at your slices and their widmanstatten patterns it strikes me there is scope here for a book about identifying widmanstatten patterns and their subtle characteristics for individual finds/fallsor is their already one I'm not aware of...now there's a project for someone! Sorry can't help with identification, I'd just be guessingalthough pretty sure non of them is Taza. Graham, UK On 11 February 2011 05:22, Laurence Garvie lgar...@cox.net wrote: I found four unlabeled iron meteorite slices in the collection at Arizona State University. They can be seen at www.flickr.com/photos/meteorite_scientist/sets/72157625897257655/ If anyone recognizes any of the slices then please let me know at lgar...@asu.edu Thanks Laurence CMS ASU __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Unknown irons at ASU
Hi Martin, In a way that's what I was saying.many etched iron slices have very characteristic patterns with regularly occurring inclusions etc which show up differently on the cut angleso as a project it would be very complex and would need to show how those things differ (or are similar) in each meteorite for different anglesbut it could be a wonderful resource if someone had the time and expertise to compile an illustrated book.. I would certainly buy it. Cheers, Graham On 11 February 2011 10:31, Martin Altmann altm...@meteorite-martin.de wrote: I don't know Graham, whether that would work, Because the same iron can look very different, just depending on the angle of the cut plane through the crystals. Same applies especially to the Neumann lines. Laurence, any hints, how long those pieces are already in the collection? Best! Martin -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] Im Auftrag von e-mail ensoramanda Gesendet: Freitag, 11. Februar 2011 10:38 An: Laurence Garvie Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] Unknown irons at ASU Looking at your slices and their widmanstatten patterns it strikes me there is scope here for a book about identifying widmanstatten patterns and their subtle characteristics for individual finds/fallsor is their already one I'm not aware of...now there's a project for someone! Sorry can't help with identification, I'd just be guessingalthough pretty sure non of them is Taza. Graham, UK On 11 February 2011 05:22, Laurence Garvie lgar...@cox.net wrote: I found four unlabeled iron meteorite slices in the collection at Arizona State University. They can be seen at www.flickr.com/photos/meteorite_scientist/sets/72157625897257655/ If anyone recognizes any of the slices then please let me know at lgar...@asu.edu Thanks Laurence CMS ASU __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] 2011 12th annual Steve and Geoff show video And Gold Basin Cake
Thanks for that Jimgreat work. Really missed being there this year. Graham, UK On 10 February 2011 18:27, Jim Wooddell jimwoodd...@gmail.com wrote: Enjoy the videos. How to break it into segments for YouTube... http://desertsunburn.no-ip.org Jim Wooddell __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] about meteorite casts
Hi Gary, Yes a wonderful cast and a local fall for me. Mine arrived a few days ago. Shame about the damage to yours...very annoying. Not sure I thanked Zelimir back then for his kind offer toothat is a very generous offer...will keep it in mind. Sure missed the trip to Tucson this time, and thanks for all the photos...unfortunately could not keep awake that late for the live streaming (great of you Ruben and Co for doing it...did anybody record it?)) but hopefully see many of you in Ensisheim to swap stories and share a beer. Cheers, Graham On 8 February 2011 18:58, Gary Fujihara fuj...@mac.com wrote: Aloha all, One of the mountain of packages that awaited me upon my return home was one that contained a cast of the Middlesborough meteorite. It is an incredibly oriented stone reproduced beautifully in this cast. My only complaint is that some idiot at customs cut through the box and scarred the piece in several places. http://bigkahuna-meteorites.com/Images/Middlesborough.jpg I am very happy with the piece, very disappointed with customs, but anyone interested should contact Dee Dave at GeoEd Ltd in Cornwall. Email is fos...@geoed.co.uk gary On Jan 26, 2010, at 3:51 AM, Zelimir Gabelica wrote: Hi Graham, If you mean original meteorites that were sources of casts in general (not Middlesborough in particular), you were very close to a famous one last Summer: Ensisheim meteorite, 53.832 kg, original displayed in the Ensi Regency palace. Only 2 identical (plaster) casts have been manufactured from that original in the late 1940's (or 1950's ?) by a local artist. One belongs to the Guardians and is sometimes lend for display instead of the original that is, as you might guess, tricky and risky to carry here and there. I am the very lucky owner of the second cast. It was officially donated to me by the Guardians after we had organized the first 2000 show. I continue to believe this was an outstanding honor that I never deserved, whatever my contribution to initiate the show (actually that work was, and still is, far more a pleasure and a challenge than a task). This being, if ever you need my cast for any kind of display (even in the UK), I am always ready to lend it occasionally. Because I consider that this almost unique cast can be to some extent an elegant way to dispatch the fame of that unique meteorite, and perhaps the knowledge of meteorites in general. I may suspect the artist realized it for that kind of purpose. BTW, please note all: The real and accurately measured weight of the original meteorite fragment sited in Ensisheim (by all means the main mass) is well 53.831, as officially re-weighed in 2002. The other often mentioned figures (about 55 kg or alike) are not correct. My best, Zelimir At 23:44 25/01/2010, ensorama...@ntlworld.com wrote: Hi Dan, I have chased up the original sources of the casts and they are no longer available...unless of course someone on the list knows different...I have been after one for years. Graham Daniel H. Fronefield dfron...@hiwaay.net wrote: So, does anyone still carry these Middlesborough meteorite casts for sale? Is the 3D scan made by ESA/NASA available to the general public? If so, a reasonable replica could be produced by various methods. Just thinking ... I'd love to have replica for my display too. Dan Prof. Zelimir Gabelica Université de Haute Alsace ENSCMu, Lab. GSEC, 3, Rue A. Werner, F-68093 Mulhouse Cedex, France Tel: +33 (0)3 89 33 68 94 Fax: +33 (0)3 89 33 68 15 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list Gary Fujihara Big Kahuna Meteorites (IMCA#1693) 105 Puhili Place, Hilo, Hawai'i 96720 http://bigkahuna-meteorites.com/ http://shop.ebay.com/fujmon/m.html (808) 640-9161 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Very Unique Meteorite
Remarkable looking stone Rubenare you sure its a meteorite? If they are chondrules then here's a wild guess...how about more resistant armoured chondrules similar to some CR meteorites which have been exposed and polished by weathering , perhaps in some sort of vug. I'd have to file a window very soon if it were mine. Would love to see what was shown upgo on you know you have to...and send some more shots. Wish I was theregood luck Graham On 30 January 2011 01:59, Ruben Garcia mrmeteor...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, Currently emailing from Tucson and thought I'd post one of my latest Gem Show purchases. I bought this meteorite yesterday because it was so odd. Has anyone ever seen anything like it? If so, how could this have happened? http://www.mr-meteorite.net/chondrules.htm -- Rock On! Ruben Garcia Website: http://www.mr-meteorite.net Articles: http://www.meteorite.com/blog/ Videos: http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=meteorfright#p/u __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] OT: Tucson shooting
Yes...my thoughts are with everyone in Tucson. The news is all over the TV stations out here in the UK. I was staying just up the road from the shootings at the show last year. Tragic! Graham, IMCA #1835 On 8 January 2011 22:41, Rob Matson mojave_meteori...@cox.net wrote: I do hope our many List members from the Tucson area are all safe and uninjured following the massacre outside a Tucson grocery store today. 6 people were killed (including a 9-year-old girl), and at least another 12 injured, including U.S. Representative Gabrielle Giffords who was shot in the head and is in critical condition... :-( --Rob http://www.cnn.com/2011/CRIME/01/08/arizona.shooting/index.html?hpt=T1iref= BN1 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Tucson activities
Hi Brian, and welcome to the list I think you will have much more success searching through the rooms at the numerous venues in Tucson...Besides, there is just not enough time to see all the meteorites that will be on show (or hidden away in mysterious boxes) even if you stayed for the whole show! Graham, nr Barwell UK IMCA #1835 On 8 January 2011 19:09, Brian Moore bmo...@bigbangwidth.com wrote: First post, hello listers. Are there any strewn fields one can search around Tucson? I'm wondering if it is worthwhile to bring my metal detector. This will be my first time to the show. -Brian Moore Alberta Canada __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Rocks from Space Picture of Day - January 5, 2011
I found it interesting that both samples had the lichen growing on them. Just wondering, Svend, how common the growths were on surrounding stones or if perhaps they favoured growing on the Eucrite because of certain minerals contained within compared to other stones in the area. Graham, UK On 5 January 2011 14:26, Michael Johnson mich...@rocksfromspace.org wrote: http://www.rocksfromspace.org/January_5_2011.html __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] BBC stargazing live....meteorites
Hi All, For all those able to view...tonights episode in the UK is covering the Quadrantids and some info on meteorites at this very moment. Graham, UK __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] BBC Stargazing Live appearance by Gary Fujihara
Hi All, Gary, Just to say congratulations Gary on your appearance tonight on the beeb. Watched the new Stargazing Live show earlier tonight with links to Hawaii. It was quite a shock to see you appear just after I had mentioned your name. Great programme for those able to get it. Graham UK. __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] BBC Stargazing Live appearance by Gary Fujihara
Doubt there will be any Youtube links yet...it can be seen here...but probably only in the UK unless someone knows a way round that. http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b00wnvpf On 3 January 2011 23:42, Michael Gilmer meteoritem...@gmail.com wrote: Is there a YouTube video link? :) -- Mike Gilmer - Galactic Stone Ironworks Meteorites Website - http://www.galactic-stone.com Facebook - http://www.facebook.com/galacticstone News Feed - http://www.galactic-stone.com/rss/126516 Twitter - http://twitter.com/galacticstone Meteorite Top List - http://meteorite.gotop100.com EOM - http://www.encyclopedia-of-meteorites.com/collection.aspx?id=1564 --- On Mon, Jan 3, 2011 at 6:36 PM, e-mail ensoramanda ensorama...@ntlworld.com wrote: Hi All, Gary, Just to say congratulations Gary on your appearance tonight on the beeb. Watched the new Stargazing Live show earlier tonight with links to Hawaii. It was quite a shock to see you appear just after I had mentioned your name. Great programme for those able to get it. Graham UK. __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list -- __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Magazine Re: Business contact
I too have tried to ask about the state of my subscription and had not repliesanyone else having any luck? Graham On 29 December 2010 16:59, David Pensenstadler dfpen...@yahoo.com wrote: Dear List: Has anyone tried to contact Hazel at METEORITE Magazine (see link below)? I have sent two emails to inquire about my subscription but have not received a reply. Anyone else try contacting her? Dave --- On Wed, 12/15/10, Robert Beauford robertbeauf...@rocketmail.com wrote: From: Robert Beauford robertbeauf...@rocketmail.com Subject: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Magazine - November, vol 16, no 3 - Co-editor's Note To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Wednesday, December 15, 2010, 1:57 PM The November Meteorite Magazine issue should be in your mail boxes very soon if it has not already arrived. You can expect it shortly. I'm sorry for the delay. We picked up production mid-stride, but put together what I think is a nice issue with great articles. I deeply appreciate everyone who helped us to make this happen. February should be back to arriving on time. Someone mentioned not having gotten prior issues in their subscription. The only one that should be late is November. If you have had other subscription problems, these will involve issues prior to our presence. Please let us know, either through the web site at meteoritemag.uark.edu, or by contacting Hazel directly at met...@uark.edu (Hazel can help you with business, back issues, or subscription questions.) For articles, content questions, or article submissions, you can contact the editors, Derek Sears or myself, at meted...@uark.edu Thank you all for your support of this great magazine. It is an honor and a joy to be working with all of you to keep this magazine going and growing. This is meant to be a magazine for the entire meteorite community, collectors, dealers, hunters, scholars, educators and everyone else, and we are happy to have your comments and participation. Robert Beauford, co-editor __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Barwell, the Christmas Eve Meteorite
Hi Bernd/All, Hope you have a very merry Barwellmas! Today (23rd) is known by my family and friends as Ensmas, my birthday and the eve of the Barwell fall. It fell the day after my 9th birthday a few miles away from home and sparked of a lifetimes fascination with meteorites I'm still searching for the bits they missed! Hope you are all enjoying this festive season. Graham Ensor On 23 December 2010 23:25, bernd.pa...@paulinet.de wrote: Happy Birthday, Barwell! Bernd (in Germany at 00.35 local time ;-) -- On December 24, 1965, a Christmas present of sorts fell to the ground around 16:20 hrs, when a brilliant fireball swept across southern England from a south -southwesterly direction and landed in Barwell accompanied by a tremendous explosion caused by the exploding meteorite that went down in history as the Christmas Eve meteorite. The bolide must have been extremely bright. Some eyewitnesses say it was brighter than the sun, others say it was almost twice as bright as Venus. There are also reports of color changes during atmospheric descent. Local residents noted a large explosion, the sky suddenly lit up, a whizzing noise was heard, there was a loud roar, a low rumbling noise, a screaming sound from a low-flying object directly overhead, a loud rustling noise after the explosion, a sudden thud as something hit the ground, a terrible crack, and also electrophonic phenomena. When one local picked up a strange-looking stone about as big as his hand, he immediately threw it down again because it felt warm. This stone had even left a small crater in the asphalt road. Another Barwell resident found a dent in the hood of his automobile and a white stone on the ground weighing between six and seven pounds. News of the actual fall was slow to spread but when it did, hell broke loose because the British Museum had promised financial rewards for each and every find. Several larger fragments and innumerable small stones were located by field parties and local residents. While initial disruption occurred at an altitude of about 25 miles, final disruption probably occurred at a very low altitude above Barwell. The Barwell L5 chondrite has a gray interior, numerous FeNi specks and grayish chondrules that give it a mottled look. Interestingly, some of the fragments at Barwell came in from slightly different directions - maybe due to strong winds high up in the atmosphere because a distinct smoke trail rapidly disappeared. A 17-pounder made a perfectly vertical hole in sandy loam soil to a depth of 27 inches. A 14 ½ ounce fragment penetrated the roof of a local factory. A 7-pound piece lay in an 18-inch hole. A 6-pound chunk was found in a factory backyard partly buried in a cinder heap! Reference: Lancaster Brown P. (1966) The Barwell Meteorite (Sky Telescope, July 1966, pp. 7-11). __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] eclipse photos
Excellentprobably the best set of lunar eclipse shots I've ever seen. Graham On 22 December 2010 03:12, Mike Hankey mike.han...@gmail.com wrote: I had a great eclipse observing and photography session last night, but boy am I tired. Photographing an eclipse is a real challenge, but luckily the clouds stayed away for most of the night and everything came together pretty well. I uploaded some of the photos here: http://www.mikesastrophotos.com/lunar/lunar-eclipse-december-21st-2010/ I had a fish eye camera working the whole night, hoping to catch a meteor, but didn't get that lucky. __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] eclipse is underway....
Hi, Just been taking some photos of eclipse from v frosty UK, Nr Barwell...was beautuful as sun was brightening the landscape and showing the hoar frosted trees below. Graham On 21 December 2010 06:47, michael cottingham voyagebotan...@hotmail.com wrote: Hello, Clear skies... 40 degrees F... eclipse is underway and beautiful... Happy Solstice! Best Wishes Michael Cottingham __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Lunar eclipse photos from nr Barwell
Hi All, Just uploaded 3 shots of the frosty solstice landscape near Barwell in the UK with the lunar eclipse just before totality... http://s760.photobucket.com/albums/xx244/Graham-Ensor/Lunar%20Eclipse%202010/ Seasons greetings, Graham __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Lunar eclipse photos from nr Barwell
Hi Rob, Thanks for sharing thatgreat detailed shot. Couldn't help thinking that all it needed was a sprig of holly photo-shopping on to the top and it would make a very good festive plum pudding look-a-like! Cheers, Graham On 21 December 2010 16:53, Rob Holcomb rob.holc...@gmail.com wrote: Here's a photo from the San Francisco Bay Area, a friend setup his equipment and then stood out in the balmy (compared to most of you!) weather and took a whole series of photos. I like this one with the stars in the background. http://4-kats.homeip.net/andrewlunar.jpg Rob Holcomb http://www.rholcomb.com -- From: e-mail ensoramanda ensorama...@ntlworld.com Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 2010 12:57 AM To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] Lunar eclipse photos from nr Barwell Hi All, Just uploaded 3 shots of the frosty solstice landscape near Barwell in the UK with the lunar eclipse just before totality... http://s760.photobucket.com/albums/xx244/Graham-Ensor/Lunar%20Eclipse%202010/ Seasons greetings, Graham __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Video of UK fireball
Hi All, Video of the fireball over the UK on Wed eve. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QQpL12tYPrw Reports seem to suggest so far that it started above the Eastern Yorkshire coast and travelled at a low angle towards the west with a final detonation and fragmentation over the pennines. If this did drop meteorites they are likely in the Irish sea but coastal regions from Liverpool down to N Wales may be a possibility. God reports and analysis here from Alastair McBeath. http://www.popastro.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=14888 Fingers crossed for leaky roof reports! Graham __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Rare Arizona Meteorite Find
Hi Ruben, Congratulations again. Just a little boast that I too was right in my guess at it's classification...just checked the archiveso no prizes then? ;-) It just reminded me of my Vaca Muerta sample. http://six.pairlist.net/pipermail/meteorite-list/2009-October/057091.html as below Mon Oct 5 19:27:55 EDT 2009 * Previous message: [meteorite-list] A Rare Arizona Meteorite Find * Next message: [meteorite-list] A Rare Arizona Meteorite Find * Messages sorted by: [ date ] [ thread ] [ subject ] [ author ] My guess is still a mesosiderite...any prizes for the correct guess when ASU confirm? ;-) Good luck Graham Happy hunting and Merry Christmas to everyone. Graham UK On 10 December 2010 02:14, Ruben Garcia mrmeteor...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, The classification of my rare Arizona Meteorite find has just been completed. Many will remember that a year ago we had fun guessing as to what it could be. Well, now we know. If memory serves correct, I think only Adam Hupe was right. Check it out here: http://www.mr-meteorite.net/ararearizonafind.htm -- Rock On! Ruben Garcia Website: http://www.mr-meteorite.net Articles: http://www.meteorite.com/blog/ Videos: http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=meteorfright#p/u __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Large fragmenting meteor in UK this evening
My wife just saw an amazing meteor in the UK.Unfortunately I still had my head in the car unloading and missed it :-( It must have been very spectacular further north as she observed at looking into the remainder of the glowing light from sunset and with a fair bit of light pollutionvery low slow and distant. She reports as follows. Site Location: Town: Swannington County: Leicestershire Country: England Latitude: 52 ° 44 ’ 16.92 ” N Longitude: 01 ° 22 ’ 51.65 ” W Date / Time: Date (Year - Month - Date): 2010 - 12 - 08 Time: 17 h 39 m 00 s TimeZone GMT Visible duration (in seconds): at least 3 Train Details: large fragmenting fireball Sounds: None apparent Fragmentation: Yes Colours: White Large fragmenting fireball brighter than Jupiter but not as bright as the full moon travelling apparently east to west seen for the length of the plough directly below the plough, low, (3/4 above horizon 1/4 below plough) Initial start of hot flight not noticed so could have lasted longer. Seen through light pollution and probably too distant to hear associated sounds/detonations. If anyone else spots other reports please post to the list. Graham Ensor UK __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] test...delete
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[meteorite-list] Large fragmenting meteor in UK this evening...reports
Fireball seen by hundreds traveling across UK..many reports coming in. Thought to be traveling E to W and reports of it overhead in on W coast so if it dropped anything it's likely to be in the Irish Sea or maybe Ireland again! More details need yet though http://www.telegraph.co.uk/science/space/8190171/Spectacular-meteor-fireball-explosion-over-Britain-leaves-stargazers-buzzing-ahead-of-Geminid-space-shower.html http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-11954932 Graham UK __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Could we get back to the science of meteorites, please ?
Hi Bernd/All, Does anyone know any more about the classification of NWA 6260 which is provisionally LL7 metachondrite...Has that been confirmed yet...Met Bulletin still says Unknown? Cheers, Graham, UK On 18 October 2010 21:19, bernd.pa...@paulinet.de wrote: Oops, sorry for the double post! Best wishes, Bernd __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Announcement...New Website is now up! Cosmic Treasures Celestial Wonders
Excellent site Doneverything one needs all in one site...or a link to it if notI have bookmarked it. Cheers, Graham, UK On 17 October 2010 03:27, Don Merchant dmerc...@rochester.rr.com wrote: Hi List. I apologize that I have been away off the list for a long time. The reason is I decided to fulfill a long awaited dream of mine and create a website dedicated to meteorites and astronomy. I spent about a year and almost 2000 hours researching to put this together and ended up to be much longer then I anticipated. For those who know me I wanted to do it right and do not like to cut corners. This site is dedicated on my daughters birthday today, but is for all of you collectors out there and especially for those new to the field. There is no site like it in the world in my opinion. My eBay Info page will help many newbie's to the hobby and many of you will agree after viewing it, that it was about time something so detailed came along, which will help many new and veteran collectors. Though I have not listed any meteorites as of yet (shooting for first of the year) on my meteorite sales page, my format will be different then most of the dealers and sellers who already sell on their sites. I will not have the variety like they do. My plan is to only put up several type each couple of months. Those meteorites will be the rarest of the rare and hardest to acquire and or most historical. I posted about 5 months ago on my intentions of this website which is called Cosmic Treasures Celestial Wonders and wanted to thank those that contacted me with what I needed. I hope you will take the time to look over my site as it is very educational and the resources and tools will hopefully put me in your favorites! I designed this site for the new astronomer and new meteorite collector by using the many years I have involved with astronomy and meteorites and from the lessons I have learned. I hope my experience will suffice to all of you out there. Please feel free to pass my site along to those who you feel will gain from it. Hope you enjoy it and glad to finally have time to get back to the real world! My site address is below. Cosmic Treasures Celestial Wonders www.ctreasurescwonders.com Thank you. Sincerely Don Merchant Founder-Cosmic Treasures Celestial Wonders IMCA #0960 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] 5 Kilo Iron Meteorite
Would be interesting to know what happened to those irons found in Australia? knowing what the laws are nowhave they been handed in for study/classificationor just disappeared mysteriouslyanyone know the finder of more about the story? Jeff? They look much younger than Henbury with very nice regmaglypts. Graham, UK On 17 October 2010 18:37, Meteorites USA e...@meteoritesusa.com wrote: Anyone wanna talk about meteorites? ;) Seems someone found a couple... Eric On 10/16/2010 10:22 PM, Meteorites USA wrote: Another one... this time BIGGER! Strewnfield? http://il.youtube.com/watch?v=7y6dDtPekzQ Geoff and Steve were in Australia just recently. Hmmm... On 10/16/2010 10:15 PM, Meteorites USA wrote: http://il.youtube.com/watch?v=-619OvFyi5w __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Try divining rods over a large iron
Hi All, I was in two minds about sharing this with the list as I am usually with Darren on this sort of stuff...but I just had to tell this storyand I am a complete non believer in these sorts of things! When visiting my friend on his farm many years ago we were watching some builders doing work on the estate and to my surprise they were using wire divining rods to find the drains running from and around the property so that they knew where to dig to do repairs on them. We were both disbelievers in such things. Now my friend knew exactly where the drains ran under his lawn and tennis court and he had seen the men using them the day before and talked to them about itthey had shown him what to do and he had had a go but although they did cross over drains he could not come to terms with it as he knew where they were anyway, so thought that must influence them crossing in some way. He gave them to me and left me walking around the lawn and tennis court whilst he went and fed the cattle. I wandered around putting small pegs in the ground where I felt them crossI ended up with two lines across the lawn. When he returned he was very bemused as I was right on top of the two drainshe even showed me where they came out in the ditch on the edge. I had no idea where they would be. I still to this day cannot explain it apart from it just being chance or something else connected with the drains had influenced mebut we did look around to see what that might belike a dip in the ground or darker grass or similarbut we never figured anything out. I am still not convincedbut then again why did the builders/workmen use them if they do not work or helpthey would be digging lots of pointless holes and that would not be good for business??? One of those experiences that has always made me wonder. Graham UK On 13 October 2010 18:46, Darren Garrison cyna...@charter.net wrote: On Wed, 13 Oct 2010 09:54:10 -0700, you wrote: I couldn't resist on this one. With all due respect,some of the members of the list need to visit www.randi.org Randi himself: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rMtuWymUzz4 The ideomotor effect: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ideomotor_effect http://www.skepdic.com/dowsing.html __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Try divining rods over a large iron
Hi Richard, Yes I am of a similar mind...not convinced but intrigued. The unexplained in this world is always intriguing and I suppose its what inspires the inquisitive mind, scientist, artist or just plain weirdo to look for their own answer. Keep up the good work, Cheers, Graham On 14 October 2010 00:10, Richard Kowalski damoc...@yahoo.com wrote: Interesting story Graham. I'm also not convinced by these claims and have never seen a truly uncorrupted experiment of these claims. The closest thing I've seen was broadcast on TV over a decade ago, which I think originally aired in Australia. It was a supposed double-blind experiment run by none other than Randy himself. I may not remember all of the particulars exactly but I do remember that the experiment involved a number of dowsers, 5 covered or buried plastic pipes and several different types of fluids, all involving multiple runs. I know water and gasoline were two of the fluids and various runs had the fluids both static and flowing. Not unexpectedly, all of the results were random... All results with the exception of one. The dowsers were very obviously picking the correct pipe that contained flowing water. And I don't mean a slight increase in the statistics. It was strong positive result and an obvious anomaly in the data. Ever since then I've been intrigued by this result. Not convinced, but intrigued. Unfortunately at the end of the program, the not-so-amazing Randy manipulated his results to show no statistically significant positive in the results, even though they had shown just the opposite and the chart of the results behind him also showed that there was. It was at that moment that the not-so-amazing Randy lost all credibility as a debunker and all of his results must be just as suspect as those results he claims to be disproving. He proved to me he and his results are untrustworthy. I've certainly ignored him ever since then. I'm still waiting to see a real, double blind, uncorrupted experiment on this, several in fact, before I'm convinced that there is a real effect at work here. -- Richard Kowalski Full Moon Photography IMCA #1081 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Meteor breaks up into three pieces
Excellent shot Richardoutstanding! Graham, UK - Original Message - From: Richard Kowalski damoc...@yahoo.com To: meteorite list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Friday, October 08, 2010 6:38 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Meteor breaks up into three pieces I was at the Catalina Schmidt telescope last night. Meteors we flying, many apparently Draconids due to the peak of that shower. In several survey frames throughout the night meteors were visible. Not a rarity as we catch a few every night. Last night I had a spectacular meteor cross the field as it split into three parts. See the image here: http://www.lpl.arizona.edu/~kowalski/interesting_events.html Enjoy -- Richard Kowalski Full Moon Photography IMCA #1081 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Professionals No Longer Sought
Hi Dave, I am not really sure what you are getting at when talking of check-lists of attributes defining professionals and scientists having to address questions by the general public/collector? I cannot see how the first would help anyone or how the second could ever be practical. What it comes down to is having confidence in who you buy from or deal with and trying to learn as much about the samples you wish to collect. There are very few options for the collector. In an ideal world it would be great to have your own equipment to verify what you get or have your own science contacts that could do that but that just isn't going to happen. There is not enough time and very little point in retesting small samples for individuals...it's just a waste of resources and not productive. Science benefits from new material being submitted by dealers and dealers then benefit from material being verified and classified. After that point you just have to choose dealers who have a good reputation that are selling that classified material with provenance. Otherwise there is no real substitute for having years of experience studying, looking at hundreds of samples of all types in collections, at shows, in books, online etc etc when it comes to choosing your purchases. It also depends on what your focus is when collecting meteorites..and there are many different collectorssome concentrate on micros, others planetary, types, aesthetic qualities etc etc. Science is important in some more than others. I, for instance, like nothing better than searching through a box of UNWA material at a show looking for something aesthetically pleasing, showing flight markings or an unusual shape or matrixsomething that may tell a story about it's flight through the atmosphereevidence of impact craters on sikhote alins.( I have even managed this by studying batches for sale on line) Knowing what to buy then just relies on your own experience. Regards, Graham On 9 October 2010 12:50, David Gunning davidgunn...@fairpoint.net wrote: Hi Graham UK, The last time I looked there was no check-list of attributes defining what it means to be a professional meteorite dealer. The more I learn about the IMCA, and how it presents itself as a quasi enforcer of honest meteorite dealings between it's membership and the meteorite collecting community, at large, the more I like what I see. That is not to say, however, that I would want to subscribe to it's tenets of extreme trust that it's membership, you included, appears to crow about in place of solid verifiable scientific mineralogical evidence when purchasing meteorites, where and whenever possible. One of the difficulties, seems to me, is that the scientists, generally speaking, are too deeply insulated from having to address the questions and concerns of us mere ordinary mortals, non IMCA members. Professionalism, at it's best, means addressing those devilish details that don't always quite square-up, in my view. Science, at it's best, should be verifiable and evidence based for even us ordinary mere mortals, don't you suppose? Verifiably yours, Dave Gunning Hi Dave, I think you will find in time that many of the most professional meteorite dealers as you call them do not have to sell themselves hard on the list or to individuals as they have built up their reputations over many years and do not need to. There are many who deal professionally too but have other main professions not related to meteorites. Very few in the world hunt and deal full time and many many excellent dealers are part timemany only use the list very occasionally. You may well have been contacted by 6 professional dealers but I would take my time. Look around and study carefully what is on offer that fits your needs from a wider field. Compare prices, quality and check out the archives. It takes a while I have found. I find the vast majority of people on the list are very professional as collectors, scientists or dealers and as such any one of them may be willing to help you out if you have a specific item you are after. Regards Graham UK IMCA#1835 On 8 October 2010 22:50, David Gunning davidgunn...@fairpoint.net wrote: Hi All, After an initial responsive surge of 6 professional meteorite dealers to my ad seeking same, the surge has, apparently, subsided. Dried-up. Gone kaput. So, lemme see, out of a total list membership of, what, 950, or so, members, and with six acknowledged professional meteorite dealers, (and other celestial objects dealers) amongst your ranks, that would be a ratio of 950 to 6 for an estimated percentage value of less that 1% total of professional dealers who view themselves as such and are willing to allow themselves as being such on the list. Wow, there sure must be alot of collectors and scientists on the list. How cool is that? Thanks, Chummies! Dave Gunning
Re: [meteorite-list] Professionals No Longer Sought
Hi Dave, I think you will find in time that many of the most professional meteorite dealers as you call them do not have to sell themselves hard on the list or to individuals as they have built up their reputations over many years and do not need to. There are many who deal professionally too but have other main professions not related to meteorites. Very few in the world hunt and deal full time and many many excellent dealers are part timemany only use the list very occasionally. You may well have been contacted by 6 professional dealers but I would take my time. Look around and study carefully what is on offer that fits your needs from a wider field. Compare prices, quality and check out the archives. It takes a while I have found. I find the vast majority of people on the list are very professional as collectors, scientists or dealers and as such any one of them may be willing to help you out if you have a specific item you are after. Regards Graham UK IMCA#1835 On 8 October 2010 22:50, David Gunning davidgunn...@fairpoint.net wrote: Hi All, After an initial responsive surge of 6 professional meteorite dealers to my ad seeking same, the surge has, apparently, subsided. Dried-up. Gone kaput. So, lemme see, out of a total list membership of, what, 950, or so, members, and with six acknowledged professional meteorite dealers, (and other celestial objects dealers) amongst your ranks, that would be a ratio of 950 to 6 for an estimated percentage value of less that 1% total of professional dealers who view themselves as such and are willing to allow themselves as being such on the list. Wow, there sure must be alot of collectors and scientists on the list. How cool is that? Thanks, Chummies! Dave Gunning __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] New Meteorite Cratering Book
Hi All, Just had to share thiswhen this post came up after all the talk of eating meteorites I completely misread it and thought there was actually a new Meteorite CATERING book!!gave me a good laugh anyway. So anyone got any recipes to go with the Tucson Auction Cake? Perhaps we can put our own book together... Franconia Frangipane served in a Gold Basin with a side order of Tucson Ring doughnuts? Must be nearly lunchtime :-) Graham, Nr Bar-well! UK On 6 October 2010 02:13, Dennis Miller astror...@hotmail.com wrote: Hello Anita and all I sent a post a few weeks ago about this publication. It can be purchased through The Geological Society of America for $99 and if you are a member of the GSA, it's only $70. 1-888-443-4472 This is just one of many reasons to join the GSA. If more meteorite collectors were members, we would have a better avenue, through the GSA, to change some of these vague laws for collecting space material. Dennis Miller GSA Associate Member Date: Tue, 5 Oct 2010 07:49:13 -0700 From: anitawestl...@att.net To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] New Meteorite Cratering Book Dear List: I received notice of this new book on cratering. It's a little pricey at $112.92, but here's the link if you're interested: http://www.geolsoc.org.uk/page8278.html Anita __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Gigapan and Barratta Thin Section
Hi Ted, Great ideaamazing shots and wonderful to be able to pan around zooming in and out on all that detail. Look forward to seeing more. Cheers, Graham UK On 19 September 2010 10:42, ted brattstrom volcano...@yahoo.com wrote: Aloha - In concert with Bob Walker - of Queensland, and the person who takes the thin section images for him, I figured that, a series of images of a thin section could be stitched together using GigaPan, and presented for your enjoyment. These two are the first attempts, and are using the 20x image set. When I have some more free time :-) the 50x set will get stitched together, For those who haven't played with gigapan images, The cool part is you can do some serious zooming! since the overall image is made up of a number of high resolution images, the potential is good. In these cases, 16 images were joined up to make a 120MB image. The focus still needs to be worked on. That's over at the original image side of things :-) I hope the 50x ones are a bit crisper! If all goes well, we'll start a whole series of these! I'm looking forward to it. cheers - Ted Brattstrom Barratta - L4 (Handy Hint - Launch the Full Screen Viewer) xpol http://gigapan.org/gigapans/59099/ Normal http://gigapan.org/gigapans/59098/ __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Other hobbies?
Hi Ruben, Here's some more for your collection that you missed... ;-) chips, bread, rolls, lettuce, kale, bacon, coconuts, beans, fish, potatoes, bananas, buckaroos, bucks, fins, sawbucks, hundies, Jacksons, grands, Gs, K, smack, smackers, wampum, bills, moolah, means, checks, drafts, shrapnel, wads, plaster, bankroll, capital, finances, currency, funds, gold, stash, bundle, fortune, lucre, chump change, pin money, shekels, resources, boffo, ponies, doubloons, wherewithal, treasure, dibs, bits, dosh, pesos, bullets, coin, monkeys, silver, pelf, tender, scrip, pittance, guineas, gelt, bones, stake, pap, spondulicks, quids, pocket money, specie, jack, change, mite, king’s ransom, mint, paper, loonies, mazuma, pieces of eight, frogskins, long green, folding green, green, riches, rivets, big ones, banknotes, dead presidents, chits, scrilla, loot. Hope ypo've got a very secure display cabinet! Happy hunting, Graham, UK On 16 September 2010 19:01, Ruben Garcia mrmeteor...@gmail.com wrote: Other than meteorites I collect (in no particular order) Dollars Greenbacks Benjamin's C-Notes Clams Cabbage Cash Dough Scratch Somalians Mula Dinero Fedia and of course Cash! Rock On! Ruben Garcia Website: http://www.mr-meteorite.net Articles: http://www.meteorite.com/blog/ Videos: http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=meteorfright#p/u __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Other hobbies?
Interesting to see what diverse things other meteorite enthusiasts are intomy list... Mycologyparticularly collecting and eating wild mushrooms. (positive ID crucial!) All forms of Contemporary Arts, Crafts and Sculpture. Printing and drawing meteorite forms (a long term ongoing project...see me presenting one of my prints to Stephen Hawking here... http://www.derbyastronomy.org/HawkingVisit280508.htm - Other art projects here - www.g8artists.co.uk) Collecting Raku ceramics. Wood turning. Astronomy. Photography. Ichnology. Gardening. Travel. Graham UK IMCA #1835 On 15 September 2010 23:58, Alexander Seidel g...@gmx.net wrote: Astronomy, observational (still to buy a real good telescope) Astronomy, theoretical (my professional beginnings with a thesis) Meteorite hardware, the real stuff (my passion for decades) Meteorite thin sections, the glass thing (my passion since 1992) Meteorite books, the many-pages-thing (my younger passion) Travelling (my all-time-passion) Satellite observing (hobby with 2 COSPAR stations 1969 - 1990s, now over) Good food, liquid: especially all sorts of beer, and single malt whiskies Good food, non-liquid: all local specialities, preferred mediterranean Feeling more sort of a lazy bone than a work-aholic, yet loving the job.. My wife Silvia, our dog Ronja, my cat Trixi - well you can´t really call these a hobby, rather they are an essential part of your own life (...and sometimes hard labo(u)r), yes!) :-) Alex Berlin/Germany __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Meteorite from upstate New York
Hi All, Does anyone on the list know if there was a meteorite fall somewhere close to Watertown in upstate New York sometime in the first half of the 20th century. Just investigating an interesting story that has just been passed on to me. Graham UK IMCA #1835 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Irish meteor! You bet?
Hi All, Just been looking for more on the latest reports and found thisgave me a laugh anyway! http://betzoo.co.uk/meteorite-lands-in-ireland-when-will-the-precious-rock-will-be-found-and-will-traces-of-primitive-life-be-found-on-the-meteorite/ Graham UK IMCA #1835 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Meteor shower meteorite dropping events
Hi Chris, There are many, many meteorites that fell during meteor showers as showers happen on a regular basis,e.g. Gemenids, Leonids, Persieds etc. etc. but that does not mean to say that the meteorite fall had any association with the shower. Graham, UK On 12 August 2010 04:59, Chris Spratt cspr...@islandnet.com wrote: I know of one meteor shower (November Andromedids) where an iron meteorite fell in Mazapil, Mexico during the shower. Are there any similar events? Chris Spratt Victoria, BC (Via my iPhone) __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] 2008TC3 TV show
Hi All, Does anyone on the list know if the National Geographic prog about 2008TC3 has been uploaded anywhere on line anywhere that I can get it to watch? It has just been shown over here in the UK but not subscribing to that channel at the moment. Cheers, Graham UK, IMCA 1836 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Gebel Kamil crater website
Hi All, Been having trouble posting to the list so this topic was a while back but finally Just uploaded some photos of my 1.2kg Gebel Kamil with evidence of remnant fusion crustthe only piece I could find in Ensisheim.anyone else found similar? Thanks for pointing out the website Gary...great pictures and a fantastic new one for the collection. Hope the link works...here. http://s760.photobucket.com/albums/xx244/Graham-Ensor/GEBEL%20KAMIL%20METEORITE/ Graham, Nr Barwell, UK __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Gebel Kamil crater website
Does anyone know if the large Gebel Kamil main mass individual with regmaglypts was found on the surface or was buried and how close to the crater? Just thinking that the shrapnel pieces would have landed on the surface after exploding from the crater a a much lower velocity than individuals...thus individuals with character/crust are much more likely to be buried deeper and perhaps many more of them may be found with detectors at a later date/expedition. Perhaps there is a strewn field of these individuals associated with the crater similar to Sikhote Alin. Any thoughts anyone? Graham, UK __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Test - delete
Test - delete __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
