[meteorite-list] Shawn Alan spam?
Did anyone else get a questionable e-mail with purported pictures? Best! Tracy Latimer __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist2.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Not an answer they like
I've been fielding a lot of e-mails this week from someone who is certain that a meteorite nearly hit their house. The picture they sent me is of what looks like a weathered lava bomb that likely washed free of an upslope location and rolled/fell/bounced into his yard. They found it the following day after a "loud thump that shook the house", then picked it up and hosed it off, so don't have any pictures of it in situ, just a shallow hole with muddy splash marks. I've told them several times that it doesn't look like a meteorite: vesicles, not regmaglypts; no fusion crust, nothing that identifies it as a likely meteorite, but they don't want to hear it. Anyone who has dealt with a persistent "meteorite" finder, how did you eventually get them to listen to reason/experience -- or not? Best! Tracy Latimer __ Visit our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/meteoritecentral and the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] [IMCA List] Dave Gheesling
NO words. He will be missed Tracy Latimer From: Meteorite-list on behalf of Graham Ensor via Meteorite-list Sent: Friday, November 13, 2020 12:16 PM To: Gary Fujihara Cc: Darryl Pitt ; MeteorList ; IMCA New Mail List Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] [IMCA List] Dave Gheesling Lovely tribute Gary. On Thu, Nov 12, 2020 at 5:47 PM Gary Fujihara via Meteorite-list mailto:meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com>> wrote: Just a humble tribute to Mr Falling Rocks https://youtu.be/_T-obxcklnk Gary Fujihara Big Kahuna Meteorites PO Box 4175, Hilo, HI 96720 (808) 640-9161 http://www.ebay.com/sch/fujmon/m.html > On Nov 12, 2020, at 6:40 AM, Darryl Pitt via IMCA > mailto:i...@mail.imca.co>> wrote: > > > For those who didn’t know Dave, focus on Sean’s words and deeply believe him. > Dave’s positivity, generosity of spirit and capacity for friendship and love > are a marvel. For those who know Dave, you know precisely what I mean. > > Might I suggest we give an extra kiss to those we love as the fates can be > capricious — and rarely more than they are right now. This heartbreaking > news has brought me to my knees and take pause. > > With heartfelt condolences to all those bereaving this sorrowful, > inconceivable turn. > > > > >> On Nov 12, 2020, at 12:56 AM, Sean T. Murray via IMCA >> mailto:i...@mail.imca.co>> wrote: >> >> Folks, >> It’s with a heavy heart that I write to the meteorite community this evening. >> Dave Gheesling passed away yesterday (11/11), and we’re all trying to >> process the sudden loss. He was my best friend. I don’t have the words to >> express how much he meant to me, how much he influenced my life, and how >> blessed I was to have known the man. >> Dave’s love of family & friends, his positivity, his generosity and his >> enthusiasm for life are the example he has left for us all. Dave has been >> an important part of our community, and his contributions will live on as >> his legacy for many decades to come. >> I apologize for the abruptness of an email communication, but we were only >> able to contact a few people this evening, given the hour. Please, if you >> need anything, contact me directly so that we can give Dave’s family the >> time they need to prepare for the service. I will post more details as they >> are available. >> Yours, >> Sean Murray >> 678-367-7095 (cell) >> -- >> “Our respective fates here on planet Earth are all inevitable. Sooner or >> later - and whether we like it or not - each of us will eventually assume >> room temperature. Seemingly against all odds, we are born, we experience a >> few decades on the big ball (if we're lucky), then we die. Our atoms are >> once again stirred back into the terrestrial soup, and that's about all she >> wrote.” >> -- Dave Gheesling, August 2009 >> http://www.fallingrocks.com/FRarticle-082009.htm >> > __ Visit our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/meteoritecentral and the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com<mailto:Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com> https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/meteoritecentral and the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Fwd: In Memoriam - Dr. Mike D. Reynolds
That is very sad. He has been on the Meteorite List longer than me, and was always a respected contributor. He will be missed. Tracy Latimer From: Meteorite-list on behalf of Dolores Hill via Meteorite-list Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2019 6:02 PM To: IMCA New Mail List ; Paul via Meteorite-list Subject: [meteorite-list] Fwd: In Memoriam - Dr. Mike D. Reynolds Hello meteorite friends, I have sad news that Dr. Mike Reynolds passed away yesterday. See note below from Matt Will of the Association of Lunar and Planetary Observers (ALPO). -Dolores Hill Forwarded Message Subject:In Memoriam - Dr. Mike D. Reynolds Date: Tue, 15 Oct 2019 23:28:18 -0500 From: Matthew Will <mailto:matthew.w...@att.net> Hi all, I am writing to inform you that ALPO Board member and former ALPO Executive Director Mike Reynolds passed away late this afternoon. Mike was also our coordinator for both the the Eclipse Section and the Mercury and Venus Transits Section. I hope to have more information concerning his passing and arrangements that will be made for him later this week. Mike had an extraordinary knowledge and track record in his coverage of total solar eclipses. He was a highly respected colleague, a very good friend, and he will be greatly missed. More information about Mike and his life will appear in an upcoming issue on the Journal. Best regards, Matt Matthew L. Will Secretary and Treasurer Association of Lunar and Planetary Observers (ALPO) PO Box 13456 Springfield, IL 62791-3456 USA Email addresses: matt.w...@alpo-astronomy.org<mailto:matt.w...@alpo-astronomy.org> or matthew.w...@att.net<mailto:matthew.w...@att.net> ALPO Web Site: http://www.alpo-astronomy.org __ Visit our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/meteoritecentral and the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Thin sections request
To everyone who offered to send me thin sections, please let me know your terms (cost of sections, shipping, etc. etc.) Slides that are imperfect and/or not particularly rare are welcome, since I can't afford to spend very much for them and essentially they will be experimental for my friend's 3-d photography. I only want 2 or 3 for the initial run. Muchos mahalos in advance! Best! Tracy Latimer __ Visit our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/meteoritecentral and the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Thin sections
I have a friend who likes to do microphotography; he can produce fascinating 3-D images. I've loaned him some of my meteorite specimens and he loves taking pictures of the crystal structures, especially if there are voids or vugs. Last time i spoke with him, I mentioned thin sections and wondered if he would be interested in trying microphotographs of that. Turns out he is VERY intrigued by the prospect. Now comes the fun part. I don't usually go in for thin sections, having none of the microscopes or polarizing filters to make them pop. Does anyone have one or two they would be willing to part with inexpensively so I can let Gary have a crack at them? They don't need to be anything rare or unusual for a first foray; if it turns out he likes them, I will have started him on a new bad habit :) Best! Tracy Latimer __ Visit our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/meteoritecentral and the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Bolide over Big Island
There are reports of a large bright meteor at about midnight visible over Haleakala and the Big Island. It triggered Nest cameras and people also reported hearing a roaring noise. Gary, you on this? Sadly, chances are good if there was any meteorite, it went into the ocean. https://www.facebook.com/groups/hawaiitracker/permalink/1302658456566636/ __ Visit our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/meteoritecentral and the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Meteorite impact on moon during eclipse
We watched the lunar eclipse Sunday night, although in mid-Pacific we were only able to see it from totality on. As the Moon started to reemerge from shadow, one of our friends said, "Does anyone else see that reddish light on the moon by the terminator?" Squinting, we just caught the end of a very brief flare. I was hoping and wondering if we had spotted an impact, and lo! https://www.newscientist.com/article/2191526-a-meteorite-hit-the-moon-during-yesterdays-total-lunar-eclipse/ A meteorite hit the moon during yesterday’s total lunar eclipse Observers of yesterday’s lunar eclipse were blessed with the first known sighting of a meteorite impact during such an event. The so-called “super wolf blood moon” was eagerly watched by ... www.newscientist.com Another of our friends online caught the impact on video: "At 1:23:04 <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=idU8JfrS-xM=4984s>you can see an impact flash occur on the moon at about the 8 o'clock position near the edge! This matches with a variety of other videos of the eclipse which caught the same event. " ~~ Astromut I was very lucky! Best! Tracy Latimer __ Visit our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/meteoritecentral and the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] STICKY TAPES
When I was working in the graphic arts, we used Bestine to rejuvenate and remove rubber cement. However, one thing our instructors cautioned us about was that it was a known carcinogen; still, what isn't these days (at least according to CA Prop 65)? Best! Tracy Latimer From: Meteorite-list on behalf of Bob Falls via Meteorite-list Sent: Monday, July 9, 2018 9:06 PM To: 'John Lutzon'; Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] STICKY TAPES Hi All, A better alternative to Goo Bone is "Bestine". It will remove virtually all adhesives, is not petroleum based, leaves no residue as Goo Gone has a tendency to. This product is "flammable" however have never had problemwould keep open flame away!! If will also not have any effect on labels or printed material it comes in contact with. This product is designed as a rubber cement thinner however has been used in the graphics and art field for decades to remove sticky tape residue. Amazon link for product reference; https://www.amazon.com/BESTINE-Solvent-Thinner-Rubber-Cement/dp/B004O7HM38 I was introduced to it many years ago working in an art department and originally used it to clean stickers and labels from collectable record covers and it had no effect on the artwork!! You should be able to purchase at most art supply stores. Best Regards, Bob -Original Message- From: Meteorite-list On Behalf Of John Lutzon via Meteorite-list Sent: Monday, July 9, 2018 11:11 AM To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] STICKY TAPES Yes Michael - it does say Citrus solvent. However, it Does contain Petroleum distillates and is flammable. Also, stinks and is recommened to be used in a well ventilated area. It does work though. John - Original Message - From: "Michael Santos via Meteorite-list" To: "Anne Black" Cc: ; Sent: Monday, July 09, 2018 12:25 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] STICKY TAPES If tapes, labels, “sticky” residues are a problem you must remove, go get GOO GONE, citrus based. Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 9, 2018, at 8:52 AM, Anne Black via Meteorite-list > wrote: > > Thank you Sterling. > Wise suggestion, it beats all the others I have seen. > > Anne Black > IMPACTIKA.com > impact...@aol.com > > > > -Original Message- > From: Sterling K. Webb via Meteorite-list > > To: meteorite-list > Cc: 'Anne Black' > Sent: Sun, Jul 8, 2018 10:45 pm > Subject: [meteorite-list] STICKY TAPES > > Anne, List, > > The absolute worst sticky tape > to remove is Scotch No. 800 and > similarly formulated varieties > of clear packing tapes. > > Years ago, when my family ran > a drugstore, we used Scotch No. > 800 to wrap the label onto your > pill bottles because you never > want that kind of label to come > off... ever. > > The only two solvents that > would work on that stuff was > petroleum-distillate-based > cigarette-lighter fluid or > acetone, neither of which > is pleasant to work with > and will require a well- > ventilated area. > > There is a good but even more > primitive solution to holding > a plastic box shut, but one that > is very effective. > > Go to an office supply store > and buy a box of 1/4" (wide) > rubber bands of the right > length to be stretched tight > in one or two wraps around > your packaging. No residue > at all. > > > Sterling K. Webb > > > > __ > > Visit our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/meteoritecentral and the > Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > > __ > > Visit our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/meteoritecentral and the > Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/meteoritecentral and the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/meteoritecentral and the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit our Facebook page https://www.facebook.co
[meteorite-list] Habaswein = Sericho?
Just got the new monthly report from ASU. It appears that the pallasite which was being sold under the (provisional?) name of Habaswein has been officially named Sericho. This may merit an update in collections. Best! Tracy Latimer __ Visit our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/meteoritecentral and the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] NEMS post that I forwarded
One of my first specimens I bought from Russ; I'm sorry he rarely posts any more. Best! Tracy Latimer From: Meteorite-list <meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com> on behalf of Don Edwards via Meteorite-list <meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com> Sent: Monday, June 12, 2017 4:40 PM To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] NEMS post that I forwarded Background to the NEMS post which I sent/forwarded to the list: Russ Kempton offers an "is this a meteorite" service (cheap) for people who think they have found one. On June 7, he received some specimens and pictures with the "is this a meteorite" question and determined that it is one, a pallasite, and the sender who sent it from Kenya, had said that there was much more. Russ isn't on the met-list so hadn't seen the MF announcements but thought that some people should be told about a "huge new" find. So he sent specimens off for further analysis, set up a web page, and asked me to send the link to the met list as a service to the met-list members. Only after the link was "published" did he find out that announcements had already been made, and about the theft. He/I also didn't know until now that the sender of the specimens had contacted many people directly. Don __ Visit our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/meteoritecentral and the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] August eclipse in Wyoming
This will be a big event for astronomy buffs across the US. I managed to snag a room at the Old Faithful Inn for the 4-5 days around the event, and am planning to drive down into Grand Tetons National Park that day for best viewing, about 100 miles. The Bad Astronomer set up one of his Science Ranch Getaways along the path of totality for that period; it sold out within 2 days of being posted. Our tame astrophysicist has a family cabin in West Yellowstone, and has already declared his intent to camp there during the event. Just because you can't make it to the Wyoming area during the eclipse doesn't mean you can't view it; the eclipse cuts a swath across the CONUS from Oregon to North Carolina. Unless you are in the SW or NE corner of the US, you are probably no more than a day or two drive away from good viewing, weather permitting Best! Tracy Latimer From: Meteorite-list <meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com> on behalf of David Freeman via Meteorite-list <meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com> Sent: Monday, February 27, 2017 9:31 PM To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] August eclipse in Wyoming Dear List; Yes, I'm still around, just taking an extended vacation from being a pain in the postier. August 21st. is a total eclipse. It is causing the motels in Casper and Lander to be booked full already. Rock Springs, (here where I am) is located about a hundred miles from good viewing at South Pass where it is over fifteen miles from the nearest lit light bulb. It is expected to be 99% total from Pacific Springs rest area location on WY highway 28 at the afore mentioned South Pass. Sweetwater County Travel and Tourism is planning on doing something, maybe some field trips, or ? I will make a few more posts as the event comes along time wise. With my regards, David Freeman Rock Springs WY 82902 41.6°N 109.22°W (Elev. 6324 ft) __ Visit our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/meteoritecentral and the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Pallasite Crystals
Think of it -- if you could pay an approved GIA rep to test your meteorite and do a classification that would be scientifically accepted, think of the floodgates that would be opened for all the old meteorites that looked interesting, but no one had time to certify. You might even find the first North American lunar! Best! Tracy Latimer From: Meteorite-list <meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com> on behalf of MexicoDoug via Meteorite-list <meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com> Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2017 10:54 PM To: prolinesealandstr...@gmail.com; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Pallasite Crystals Sean, As mentioned earlier (I think by Carl Agee?) there are destructive and non-destructive (expensive) ways to do this and most are costly, unless as he suggested one of Blaine's X-ray geological sample filed analyzers works. It's similar to proving your rare approved meteorite locality is actually the locality claimed. In my opinion the GIA is not currently competent to authenticate any kind of meteorites. When they start to deal in isotopes, they can start classifying all kinds of meteorites for us. It is practical to buy from a reputable meteorite person and consider their reputation your insurance - someone active with pallasites has no motive to make you buy a pig in a poke! If you do faceting, make yourself an alliance with a meteorite person and go from there. Then you have provenance from an approved meteorite. I have one exquisitely gemmy pear faceted olivine from a Seymchan pallasite I'll sell as soon as I can figure out how to get my website online again. It was made by the team that finds Seymchan. Similar is the case for Admire which folks we all know have worked on and it appears Nakhla Dog is selling with provenance and I believe KD Meteorites, as well as Steve Arnold and Don Stimpson, and dealers they supply. Pardon if I've omitted others I don't know about. Also, though I haven't seen any recently, I believe Esquel and Krasnojarsk peridots were available at some time in the past. JMO, hope that helps, & good luck Sean Doug -Original Message- From: SR Brooks via Meteorite-list <meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com> To: meteorite-list <meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com> Sent: Wed, Jan 11, 2017 1:51 am Subject: [meteorite-list] Pallasite Crystals Hello list, On the subject of fake pallasite crystals being tested. If anyone has some authentic olivine peridot from a pallasite that could be donated to the GIA the Gemological Institute of America's lab to have tested they could find the difference between the terrestrial and the meteoric type. They have a lab that studies and tests every type of gemstone that exists including man-made simulants and fakes and if they haven't already I'm sure they would love to study them and come up with a test at no cost other than the donation. I'm a gem cutter as well as a meteorite collector and enthusiast and have tried to find some unshattered pieces to cut for myself. Usually, the person trying to sell me the meteorite material has terrestrial gem material trying to be passed off as the pallasite olivine for a high price. Luckily because of my gemology and meteorite knowledge, I can tell the difference although a sure fire test for everyone would be great. If anyone has any they would like to donate and have tested ( I'm sure they'd love to work on it ) contact the GIA in Carlsbad, CA and maybe they can come up with a test to make it easier to separate the two. Also if anyone has any unshattered crystals and would like to have some material cut I can facet the material and even work out a trade type situation to keep it affordable if it helps. Anyway just a thought. I may look into it myself. Keep on Rockin Rock Heads, Sean Brooks #7781 finestkindsto...@gmail.com shockwaver...@gmail.com i __ Visit our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/meteoritecentral and the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/meteoritecentral and the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/meteoritecentral and the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Another eBay JERK - Block him!
Ebay is like one of those neighborhoods that used to be charming and quirky, but then started a slow slide into being not so nice any more, as the sellers of interesting things left and various criminal elements started to be more apparent. The local antiques store has been replaced by a pawn shop, and the bodega has sketchy looking characters hanging out front trying to sell you junk. Now you want to walk through quickly, with one hand on your wallet and a weather eye out. Best! Tracy Latimer From: Meteorite-list <meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com> on behalf of Galactic Stone & Ironworks via Meteorite-list <meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com> Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2017 12:08 AM To: Ruben Garcia Cc: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com; ruben garcia Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Another eBay JERK - Block him! Hi Ruben, Thanks for the compliment, although I am sure Mike and Anne don't want me lumped in with them. LOL. I really hope that eBay can turn itself around and get going in the right direction again. I miss the good old days, but it seems that sellers are abandoning eBay left and right. I have noticed that several major dealers have stopped selling there or curtailed their selling greatly. Most of my sales are low-dollar micromounts sold to budget-minded collectors, so my risk on eBay would be minimal as a seller. But I can understand why guys like Mike Farmer have stopped selling there - it's just too risky to sell a specimen that is worth thousands of dollars and then get ripped off by a crooked buyer. I have been advising sellers for years now to stop relying on eBay for sales and get their own websites. In response, I often hear something along the lines of - "But, eBay has the most exposure and it puts my items in front of millions of people". I do not think that is true in most cases. Most buyers on eBay are not looking for meteorites. They are looking for electronics, computer accessories, cellphones, video games, cheap gadgets, and clothing. I would list an item on eBay and promote the listing widely on social media, and I would get maybe 30-50 item views on a 7-day auction. In that same period of time, I can get 100-200 item views on my website. So I just don't see the same value in being a seller on eBay as I used to years ago. Once eBay gets done running off all of the small sellers, all that will be left is big corporate players, and the resellers of cheap Chinese junk. It is slowly losing it's charm and character that once gave it a flea market or garage sale type of feel. It's a shame, but I see it getting a lot worse before it gets better. Best regards and good luck, MikeG On 1/9/17, Ruben Garcia <rubengarcia85...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi, > > I know that some smart people (you, Mike Farmer, Anne Black) do well > without eBay. > > For me it works fine most of the time. However, days like today make > me wonder how long I will continue to sell on ebay > > On Mon, Jan 9, 2017 at 4:49 PM, Galactic Stone & Ironworks > <meteoritem...@gmail.com> wrote: >> Hi Ruben Sr., and Ruben Jr, >> >> Well, just when I think I know everybody in the meteorite community, I >> learn something new. I had no idea there were two Rubens that are >> father and son. :) >> >> I am sorry you have to put up with this nonsense, but eBay does not >> care at all. Over the years, eBay has made it abundantly clear that >> their only concern is profits. They do not care about the integrity of >> their marketplace, their reputation, or their members. >> >> It is a shame to see how far eBay has fallen from it's peak. When I >> first joined back in 1999, it was a great community. Now eBay has done >> everything in it's power to strip the community feeling from it's >> members - even going so far as to severely limit the ability of >> members to communicate with each other. (Again, out of fear of losing >> a dollar because members might arrange a sale outside of eBay). >> >> Until eBay starts doing something about the rampant fraud in it's >> marketplace, I will steer clear as a seller. I still buy things on >> eBay, but I would rather set an item on fire than sell it there. >> >> Best regards, >> >> MikeG >> -- >> --- >> Galactic Stone & Ironworks : >> www.galactic-stone.com<http://www.galactic-stone.com> Galactic Stone and Ironworks, Meteorites for Sale - Home<http://www.galactic-stone.com/> www.galactic-stone.com Meteorites for sale. Large varied selection for collectors and science. We ship worldwide. >> Facebook : >> www.facebook.com/galacticstones<http://www.facebook.com/galacticston
[meteorite-list] Non-meteoric gemstones
Thank you all for your suggestions. I have passed them along to the seller, along with a few reasons why I think the stones aren't real extraterrestrials, and he is going to pursue the matter with a gemologist and his supplier. One case of mistaken ID down, 10 to go [] Best! Tracy Latimer __ Visit our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/meteoritecentral and the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Testing meteoric gemstones
Once again, I have found someone on ebay (surprise factor zero, Captain!) selling what I am convinced are fake pallasite cut gems. Unlike the last fake seller I confronted, this seller seems willing to entertain the idea he may have a fake or two, and wants to look into having them tested. Are there any quick and nasty tests an amateur or garden variety jeweler can do that will confirm whether the cut gemstone is a. an olivine and b. extraterrestrial? Alternately, can anyone suggest reputable testing places where he could have his stones evaluated (he's in Canada)? It would be annoying to spend a couple hundred dollars on testing, only to find you had a nice bit of faceted glass or garnet. Best! Tracy Latimer __ Visit our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/meteoritecentral and the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Cut pallasite gemstones on ebay
There is someone selling faceted gemstones they claim to have cut from pallasites. I looked through their current and past offerings, and I have never seen such a rainbow of colors; AFAIK, olivine doesn't come in red and blue! Anyone know anything about this seller? or is he just trying to cash in on meteorite lust? http://www.ebay.com/itm/5-69-Carat-Faceted-oval-brilliant-cut-PALLASITE-Gemstone-from-meteorite-/182339823105?hash=item2a744ce601:g:6DMAAOSwkl5XexNU Incidentally, I asked if he knew what pallasite this offering had been cut from and he didn't know. It's a bigger than usual chunk of peridot, for a meteorite (if that's what it is). Best! Tracy Latimer __ Visit our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/meteoritecentral and the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Possible meteorite trades
Like most of the others here, I lost my marbles long ago :) The current point of interest over here, when I'm not buying meteorites, is Native American pottery from the Four Corners area, although I have been known to splurge on other types. Best! Tracy Latimer From: Meteorite-list <meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com> on behalf of Edwin Thompson via Meteorite-list <meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com> Sent: Monday, July 4, 2016 6:01 AM To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] Possible meteorite trades Hello to all list members, I am reaching out to the farthest corners of the known world to appeal to any and all collectors. Having dealt in and collected meteorites, tektites and related books since I was just a kid, collecting all kinds of rocks which included a few cherished meteorites as early as the age of six, life has been blessed with lots of treasured finds. By the age of nine my parents allowed me to go off on summer long geology exploring science camp trips with older kids. For three years this was how I spent my summers, digging in fossil beds and agate beds all across the Northwest, areas that have been closed to this sort of activity since the mid to late sixties. At age seven I joined the Oregon Archaeological Society and at age fourteen I was given the privilege of being a dig site foreman for a Scappoose Indian housing and burial site before it was built into the now dismantled Trojan Nuclear Energy Power Plant along the banks of the mighty Columbia river near my home here in Oregon. Over time, life has changed and my interests have changed with the exception of a few common threads. One of them being that rocks from Space are the coolest of all rocks! Many of you know that from 1987 until 2002 I displayed and sold meteorites, fossils and artifacts at roughly 48 gem and mineral shows each year around the western United States. During those wonderful years of travel both here and abroad, I had the joy and pleasure (and still do) of meeting collectors and seeing their amazing collections. What I have seen and I am sure that many of you can relate to this, is that most of us who collect rocks from Space, also collect other things. I have seen a collection of antique surfboards, a huge collection of ancient suits of armor, cannons, guns, diamonds, polished stone spheres, stamps, coins (I think coins are how Michael Casper made his fortune! Good for him!). I've seen amazing collections of fossils, minerals and gem stones in private homes and on and on. Long story made shorter, I stopped collecting these beloved meteorites when I formally started selling them back in 87'. I have learned that this might have been a huge mistake but it's the choice I felt I needed to make in order to pay the bills and to remain competitive in an ever shrinking world market. But, the collecting bug never went away, it just changed shape and theme. Here is the pitch; about 1990 I started collecting antique handmade glass marbles. These gorgeous, colorful treasures were made by glass workers in the Lauscha region of East Germany from approximately 1880 until 1920. They are rare and hard to find. I have amassed a large collection and yet am always searching for more. I would be delighted to trade meteorites, tektites or books, even art, rare wine or cashy money for any number of these marbles. If you are a marble collector then I would enjoy talking with you about your collection and collecting direction. Recently Patrick got infected by this same obsession and he is an avid collector of the more recent machine made marbles from as early as the 1920's and 30's and later. If you just want to talk marbles please drop me a line. If you know someone with marbles to sell or if you have some yourself, please give me a chance to make an offer. On a less selfish thread, I think it would be a lot of fun to read about the things that others collect. I recall the first time I met Mike Bandli in Tucson years ago he was dealing in Space surplus and he had a huge collection of super cool artifacts. I learned at this last Tucson show that John Kashuba and I have nearly matching collections of rare, old wines. Hey, there is a meteorite collector in New York who collects live scorpions! And who hasn't seen Bruce Wegman's digital watch collection? Come on folks, share the fun! Best regards, E.T. __ Visit our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/meteoritecentral and the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite Central - Facebook www.facebook.com Meteorite Central. 878 likes · 18 talking about this. If you want the mailing list experience join the List by clicking the Sign Up button above.Visit... Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/me
[meteorite-list] First thing Andy Weir did with his advance...
...for his book The Martian being turned into a movie was buy a chunk of Martian meteorite. All right, which of you yahoos sold him a piece of Mars? Seriously, this is yet another reason I love this hobby - we science the shit out of it! Best! Tracy Latimer __ Visit our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/meteoritecentral and the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] test
checking to see if I'm still getting posts __ Visit our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/meteoritecentral and the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Awfully quiet
I haven't gotten any new postings from Da List for the past week. Is everyone just busy elsewhere, is there something going kapakahi with Da List, or have I been dropped? Best! Tracy Latimer __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Middle school students lobbying Kansas lawmakers to declare official state rock
Not to mention there is enough iron in our lava that using a metal detector (unless you are very good at calibration) is yet another exercise in futility. Unless you have evidence of where it landed, meteorite hunting in HI is hard. And the Palolo Valley fall disappeared from Bishop Museum! Best! Tracy Latimer Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2015 11:27:36 -1000 To: linton...@earthlink.net CC: shawna...@meteoritefalls.com; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Middle school students lobbying Kansas lawmakers to declare official state rock From: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Aloha metlist denizens, There are only two Hawaii meteorites. 1825 Honolulu and 1949 Palolo Valley. Meteorite hunting in Hawaii, particularly the Big Island can be an exercise in frustration because you are looking for little black rocks on an island made up of … big black rocks. lol I think weʻre overdue for a fall. ;^) gary On Jan 28, 2015, at 11:20 AM, Linton Rohr via Meteorite-list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com wrote: Hmm... only 27 items here in Utah. And one of those is an impact crater. I suspect there are a lot more finds out there, waiting to be found. Especially here in the south... and in the west desert. Wish I could still hike. Linton -Original Message- From: Shawn Alan via Meteorite-list Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2015 1:27 PM To: Carl Agee Cc: Meteorite Central ; Michael Farmer ; Mendy Ouzillou Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Middle school students lobbying Kansas lawmakers to declare official state rock Hello Listers Have you heard of the saying Don't mess with Texas 305 records found for valid meteorites from United States with places that are exactly Texas And these meteorite finds/Falls come from different localities Shawn Alan IMCA 1633 ebay store http://www.ebay.com/sch/imca1633ny/m.html Website http://meteoritefalls.com Original Message Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Middle school students lobbying Kansas lawmakers to declare official state rock From: Carl Agee a...@unm.edu Date: Wed, January 28, 2015 2:55 pm To: Shawn Alan shawna...@meteoritefalls.com Cc: Michael Farmer m...@meteoriteguy.com, Mendy Ouzillou mendy.ouzil...@gmail.com, Meteorite Central meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com I count 225 New Mexico meteorites in the MetBull. That is 0.00185 meteorites per square mile. If Kansas has 143 meteorites, then that is 0.00174 meteorites per square mile. I think that puts the Land of Enchantment as the #1 meteorite state :) :) * Carl B. Agee Director and Curator, Institute of Meteoritics Professor, Earth and Planetary Sciences MSC03 2050 University of New Mexico Albuquerque NM 87131-1126 Tel: (505) 750-7172 Fax: (505) 277-3577 Email: a...@unm.edu http://meteorite.unm.edu/people/carl_agee/ On Wed, Jan 28, 2015 at 12:20 PM, Shawn Alan via Meteorite-list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com wrote: Hello Listers I agree Brenham is be the best suited state meteorite Michael. If NY was doing this, it would have to be Peekskill to be the state rock. Mendy I think the teacher was going off the info from Meteoritical Bulletin Database Here are the results I gathered from there. 116 records found for valid meteorites from United States with places that are exactly Nevada 130 records found for valid meteorites from United States with places that are exactly Arizona 143 records found for valid meteorites from United States with places that are exactly Kansas Shawn Alan IMCA 1633 ebay store http://www.ebay.com/sch/imca1633ny/m.html Website http://meteoritefalls.com Original Message Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Middle school students lobbying Kansas lawmakers to declare official state rock From: Michael Farmer m...@meteoriteguy.com Date: Wed, January 28, 2015 11:37 am To: Mendy Ouzillou mendy.ouzil...@gmail.com Cc: Shawn Alan shawna...@meteoritefalls.com, Meteorite Central meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Why would Cabin Creek be a better choice? It is from Arkansas. Brenham, definitely Michael Farmer On Jan 28, 2015, at 9:02 AM, Mendy Ouzillou via Meteorite-list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com wrote: I'm just probably a meanie, but I think this effort is misguided though certainly better than making the state rock limestone. The children calculated that somehow, Kansas has more meteorites per square mile (not sure if finds, falls, or hits) than anywhere else in the US (if finds then sorry Arizona and Nevada). I am happy to see that calculations were done though disappointed that their teacher did not better guide their efforts. Finally, the picture in the article is clearly of a beautiful Sikhote Alin. I wonder how well that will go over with the state legislators. Maybe Cabin Creek would have been a better choice
Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Sculpture by Katie Paterson
This is different only in scale from using a bit of meteorite in brewing beer, as an aphrodisiac, or when I included a fragment of an unclassified common NWA in my kitchen tile countertop. There is a long history of artists repurposing materials for their artwork (although the gent who ground up lunars to use instead of Viagra is stretching that definition); some are more accepted than others. I do agree that after such extensive manipulation the only thing that might be said about the material is that it was of meteoric origin. Best! Tracy Latimer To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2014 13:14:41 + Subject: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Sculpture by Katie Paterson From: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Dear Listoids I make no claim to be an expert on contemporary art/artists, nevertheless I have worked with a number of artists over the last few years in my role as a mineral curator for the National Museums and this has allowed me to get a glimpse of the way different artists devise, plan and execute their works. I haven't had the pleasure of working with Katie, but I do know her and I have met her and we have had some long discussions about meteorites and she does feature meteorites and space in her work a lot. So I feel I ought to give my angle on this as well as try and explain her work on the Campo using her own words. The original concept was formulated in around 2010/11 and the finished cast was exhibited in London in 2012. At about that time she gave an interview and the following quote is lifted directly from the published article: ...The artist domesticates the cosmos' immensity: she gives the unfathomable a human scale, putting it within our reach. The cast meteorite will likely be placed on Exhibition Road (close to the Natural History Museum) in a discrete place, where people can sit around it and be able to touch it, she says. Most meteorites have been travelling around space for over four and a half billion years. They are older than the Earth and are the oldest objects on Earth. I like the idea of this vast cosmic history embedded inside them. Melting a meteorite and reforming it is a little bit like compressing and merging together these layers of time, history and space. Eventually I would like to send the meteorite back into Space, though that might not be for many years. Well the many years have now past and Katie has send the recast meteorite into space. Hope this helps. Cheers Peter Davidson Senior Curator of Minerals __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://three.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Cameleopardites?
We did get up around 2:30 and went outside for about 10 minutes, saw nothing but several hungry mosquitoes, and gave it up as a bad job. Our first observing bout lasted from approximately 9:30 to 10:30 HST, only slightly more satisfactory. This is an instance of negative results still being a result. Best! Tracy Latimer Date: Sat, 24 May 2014 03:38:57 -0700 From: bigjohns...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Cameleopardites? To: daist...@hotmail.com; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Hello All, I set my alarm for 3AM here in Michigan then went up to the roof of my building. Smoked a cigar and had a beer while waiting for the show to start. The sky was relatively clear in my area, with only the light from a nearby office building and parking lot to get in the way. Thank god I brought a good cigar because there were no meteors to be seen. ;-) Hope someone else had more luck. John A. Shea IMCA 3295 From: tracy latimer via Meteorite-list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com; To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com; Subject: [meteorite-list] Cameleopardites? Sent: Sat, May 24, 2014 7:59:44 AM Has anyone seen any of this elusive meteor shower? Out in HI, after an intermittent hour of observing, we saw 3 planes and a half dozen meteors, about what one might expect from any other night. Maybe someone else is having more luck; I think we may try setting the alarm clock for 2 a.m. and see if it picks up any. Best! Tracy Latimer __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://three.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://three.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Cameleopardites?
Has anyone seen any of this elusive meteor shower? Out in HI, after an intermittent hour of observing, we saw 3 planes and a half dozen meteors, about what one might expect from any other night. Maybe someone else is having more luck; I think we may try setting the alarm clock for 2 a.m. and see if it picks up any. Best! Tracy Latimer __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://three.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Membership disabled?
Has anyone else received a notice about meteorite list membership being disabled due to excessive bounces? This seems weird to me... Best! Tracy Latimer __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Glorieta Hunt - Diggers episode Tonight NGC
I think the worst part of the entire sorry story is that the people doing the treasure hunting are disrespectful and careless. They are clandestinely digging holes on historic sites, then leaving them out in the open for anyone to see, as if to rub people's noses in the fact that they were there. None of the people I know would (hopefully) leave this type of mess, or for that matter, go pot hunting at Mesa Verde or take a metal detector to the fields of Gettysburg to look for Minie balls. Sadly, the science of archaeology and the desire for wealth has always attracted some asshats through the centuries. Best! Tracy Latimer Date: Fri, 30 Aug 2013 17:59:24 -0700 From: raremeteori...@yahoo.com To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Glorieta Hunt - Diggers episode Tonight NGC All of these worthless cable TV shows must be a lack of vision of the producers' part. They will air anything these days. Now there is a new series that premieres September 10th all about toilets called King of Thrones Like Mike Farmer said, they are really dumbing down TV these days. I think it is time to disconnect my satellite dish. I am forced to watch TV during my recovery and it is not helping. Only a few more weeks and maybe then my doctor will green-light me to get out of the house and into the field while there are still a few places left to search. Going nuts in the meantime. Adam __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Linkedin spam
After I ignored/deleted the Linkedin friend request I got from Steve Curry, I got another one today. Upon looking into the matter, if you do not respond to a Linkedin associate request, they will send you at least 2 reminders. I also got reminder requests from several other accounts. Since I have never gotten anything useful out of Linkedin for the 6 months I have been on (only spam requests to be added to someone's contact list, mostly AFAIK automated), I have deleted my Linkedin account. If you wanted to add me to a Linkedin list, feel free to contact me directly. You should already have my e-address :) Best! Tracy Latimer __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Steve Curry on LinkedIn
Everyone who sh**canned the request, don't worry -- you didn't miss much. Poor Blaine! This loon seems to be of the poo-flinging variety, in the hope that if he creates a large enough blizzard of sh**, something will stick, merited or not. I would report the fake profile in LinkedIn, but the hoops they want me to jump through for a spam generation machine are too much. Best! Tracy Latimer Date: Mon, 8 Jul 2013 21:47:54 + From: richardli...@comcast.net To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Steve Curry on LinkedIn I know the feeling. It's like when the mail carrier drives right past the mail box leaving no bills,no advertisements, not even a final notice for the 28 time about missing the opportunity of a lifetime on how to become wealthy overnight. Not only a empty feeling but Might as well stab me right in the heat feeling also. Richard Lipke - Original Message - Can't help feeling rather left out ... ;-) Jay Tate The Spaceguard Centre The National NEO Information Centre On 08/07/2013 18:41, actionshoot...@carolina.rr.com wrote: Done. I want to know how he keeps emailing me when I have him blocked in my email program?? -- * Stuart McDaniel Lawndale, NC IMCA#9052 http://spacerocks.weebly.com http://www.facebook.com/Stuart.McDaniel.No.1 * Michael Mulgrew mikest...@gmail.com wrote: = All, You can report his profile as a misrepresentation (Google report linkedin profile for instructions), which I did. I would recommend more people report it, with links to news stories covering his conviction. His LinkedIn page makes the claim that he discovered the first north American lunar meteorite. Oh boy Michael in so. Cal. __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Article: Discovery of probably Tunguska meteorites at the bottom of Khushmo river's shoal
The following is a copy and paste from the above paper: Acknowledgments: I very thankful to administration and my colleagues in Vernadsky State Geological Museum (RAS) on possibility to work with information concerning L.A.Kulik’s activity and to analyze meteorites of the Museum. And then the audience arose from their seats and delivered a thunderous applause... Can I sit-down now? Bob V. One can now solve a good chunk of Russia's energy problems, by creating a rotor cage around Dr. Kulik's rapidly spinning corpse. Talk about riding on coat-tails! Best! Tracy Latimer __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] FW: Meteoritic stardust anti-ageing cream
From: daist...@hotmail.com To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: RE: [meteorite-list] Meteoritic stardust anti-ageing cream Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2013 19:35:37 + Holy frijoles, Batman! What's he going to put in the negative feedback: I used the dust like Viagra; it didn't work?!? There is no fixing stupid. Tracy Latimer Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2013 08:34:24 -0700 From: raremeteori...@yahoo.com To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteoritic stardust anti-ageing cream Yes, I had a customer who was buying up every small vial of NWA 5000 lunar cutting dust I had for sale. He asked if he could buy some off to the side and I said no problem. He was pleased to hear that I had over a pound of it until I told him that the rest was dedicated to a project. I suggested he buy NWA 482 lunar dust instead. He bought a vial of NWA 482 and was not pleased. I asked what the problem was and he admitted that he was adding the dust to saki and drinking it after dinner. He stated that the NWA 482 dust didn't work and that his wife was not happy. He went on to explain that the NWA 5000 dust made him a young man in the bedroom and that if I did not provide him with more that he would leave me negative feedback on eBay. I told him that I would provide him with a gram and that is all I could spare at the time. He then accused me of substituting NWA 482 dust instead of NWA 5000. He then bought a rather large slice to grind up himself. I am sure it was the saki giving him prowess but he believed it was the moon dust. I finally blocked this guy from bidding not wanting to risk negative feedback. Adam __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Membrane boxes go boom?
A completely unofficial count: Of the 12 membrane boxes I have, about half of them are going cloudy. All but one are meteorites; the other is a Louisiana opal (sandstone matrix). Fortunately, none of the professional displays (enclosed labels) or specks it would be problematic to rebox (Martians) have decayed yet, although that may be coming. I mainly use the membrane boxes when I have a specimen whose aesthetics are enhanced by being able to see (through) both sides, or if it came that way. If you use membrane boxes to create those nifty display boxes with elaborate inside labels, you may want to take their apparent shelf life into consideration. My meteorites are not in a climate controlled area, although once a specimen goes in a gem jar or box, it generally stays there and has limited exposure to the outside air. Best! Tracy Latimer From: fuj...@mac.com Date: Tue, 5 Mar 2013 06:25:35 -1000 To: s...@bellsouth.net CC: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com; daist...@hotmail.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Membrane boxes go boom? Sorry to hear about your membranebox Sean. But Ghubara is a bleeder and I never put a ruster or bleeder in a membranebox because they will stain the polyurethane membranes permanently (on a good note, Ron H. used to replace them for me, or broken latches before he passed). Also, if you live in a highly humid environment like I do, then you don't want to be using membrane boxes for certain kinds of specimens because they will trap the humidity inside. I typically mount and store specimens I keep in membrane boxes in my institute office, which is kept in climate controlled AC 24 hours a day. Tracy, I've never experienced a membrane getting cloudy. But as I mentioned before, all membrane boxes are kept in an air conditioned office. I have membrane boxes over five years old that are in the same condition as new ones, both enclosing specimens of all kinds and never used. Other than the aforementioned issues, membrane boxes are a great solution to storage, protection and display of specimens. gary On Mar 5, 2013, at 5:55 AM, Sean T. Murray s...@bellsouth.net wrote: I have a very stubborn Ghubara that destroyed two membrane boxes in the same fashion. Whatever evil substance that oozes from that chondrite kills a membrane in short span. Sean. -Original Message- From: tracy latimer Sent: Monday, March 04, 2013 10:28 PM To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] Membrane boxes go boom? I am observing something weird with some of my older membrane boxes. The membrane is starting to degrade and go cloudy, and in at least one specimen (Imilac, bought at Tucson, I forget the year) the membrane has ruptured and the slice is rattling around loose in the box. Has anyone else had this happen to their specimens? Best! Tracy Latimer __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list Gary Fujihara Big Kahuna Meteorites PO Box 4175, Hilo, HI 96720 (808) 640-9161 http://bigkahuna-meteorites.com/ http://www.ebay.com/sch/fujmon/m.html __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Membrane boxes go boom?
I am observing something weird with some of my older membrane boxes. The membrane is starting to degrade and go cloudy, and in at least one specimen (Imilac, bought at Tucson, I forget the year) the membrane has ruptured and the slice is rattling around loose in the box. Has anyone else had this happen to their specimens? Best! Tracy Latimer __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Dirty laundry
I am very sorry to bring this up, but don't want anyone else to get burned like me. I have been waiting on Greg Catterton since September to come through on a trade. Despite repeated e-mails and promises that he would 'make it right', I have yet to see the lunar display box he agreed to trade for the stack of books I sent him last fall. I have heard from a couple of other list members that they have not received their meteorites yet either, months later. OTOH, he has a pretty good record for following through on ebay (ID freedom_factory, formerly wanderingstarmeteorites). This isn't a large item that needs special handling, or an international deal that might have gotten locked up in customs. Given this track record, I would highly suggest that anyone who intends to buy meteorites from him make sure they do it with a purchase method that has recourse. Best! Tracy Latimer __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] large iron meteorite as movie prop?
Well, of course in the most recent Superman movie, Lex Luthor broke into a museum to steal a Kryptonite meteorite. I remember reading the case label and thinking EL6? Are they sure it's not a pallasite? Best! Tracy Latimer Date: Wed, 26 Dec 2012 16:24:23 -0800 From: drtan...@yahoo.com To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] large iron meteorite as movie prop? List, I think that I have found a meteorite used as a movie prop in the movie Hostage starring Bruce Willis. It appears to be a large iron meteorite. Campos? scene timestamp starts at 1:21:16 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F-svBgM03q0 Does anyone know the backstory and which meteorite it is? Anyone know of any other Hollywood movies that use meteorites as props? Please answer on list as other members may be interested as well. Thank you. Dirk Ross...Tokyo __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite for Christmas
I'd like a nice thin palm sized slice of Esquel, please :) Best! Tracy Latimer From: dak_...@live.concordia.ca To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2012 19:36:02 + Subject: [meteorite-list] Meteorite for Christmas My Christmas gift ? A nice slice of NEA 001 ! Merry Christmas to all Andre __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Contacting Greg Catterton
Has anyone heard from him recently? Is he okay? He seems to have dropped off the face of the earth; I've been trying to get hold of him, but he hasn't responded. Best! Tracy Latimer __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] FW: Political claptrap
From: daist...@hotmail.com To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Political claptrap Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2012 17:42:57 + -- First off, congratulations on the new AL find! And by a relative newbie as well! Long may they hunt. I know that today is Election Day here in the US, but for the sake of all of our sanity, PLEASE take the political stuff off list. If I want snide comments, I can go to any number of sites on both sides of the fence. I hang up on robocalls. I don't want to hang up on the MetList. Best! Tracy Latimer __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Strange Stuff That Falls From the Sky
My first thought was either Airsoft or paintball pellets. Particular types of Airsoft pellets (the biodegradable ones) and paintball pellets (which have a gelatin shell) swell up and look weird when they get wet. All it would take is a neighbor kid playing with paintballs or Airsoft, and a heavy dew or light shower overnight... Best! Tracy Latimer * Stuart McDaniel Lawndale, NC Secr., Cleve. Co. Astronomical Society IMCA #9052 Sirius Meteorites Node35 - Sentinel All Sky http://spacerocks.weebly.com * -Original Message- From: Paul H. Sent: Sunday, August 26, 2012 8:16 PM To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] Strange Stuff That Falls From the Sky Meteorites are not the only things that fall from the sky. Leicester couple pelted by raining yellow plastic balls (A husband and wife have been left puzzled after hundreds of tiny yellow plastic balls rained in their garden.) BBC News, August 21, 2012 http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-leicestershire-19329288 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] AD -- books for sale
I am cleaning out my bookshelves, and have a number of books that should go on to someone with more room and time to read (or at least a desire for more reference materials!) Make me an offer on any or all of the following: Rogue Asteroids and Doomsday Comets Duncan Steel and Arthur C. Clarke PB Disturbing the Solar System Alan E. Rubin PB Comets: creators and destroyers David M. Levy PB Planetary Interiors William H. Hubbard HB w/ dust jacket All are in very good condition with small amounts of wear and/or foxing. Just for giggles, if someone buys all of them, I will include an old children's book: You Will Go to the Moon If only a couple go, I will so note in a later post. More may be coming later. Best! Tracy Latimer __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] another crazy ebay sale
What I particularly like is the fellow who says NASA refuses to prove this ISN'T one of their moon rocks, so therefore it must be! We've been having record temperatures lately; maybe these folks have been out in the sun too long. Or they hope for a buyer who has been. Best! Tracy Latimer Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2012 18:39:52 + From: richardli...@comcast.net To: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] another crazy ebay sale For give me for correcting you,BUT, this is expected and has become almost acceptable on e-Bay for sometime now. What would be CRAZY though is someone actually secretly buying one of these gems at such a bargain price. Of course if it was done secretly no one would have ever known. Guess it would be best to keep something like that a secret anyway.Wouldn't want everyone to find out how gullible you really are.Endless e-mails and telephone would never stop ringing. Richard Lipke - Original Message - http://www.ebay.com/itm/Meteorite-/190714578538?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0hash=item2c6779866a So many crazies out there... -Michael in so. Cal. __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Will the Mars Rover landing be televised?
We're lucky here. Curiosity is scheduled to land about quarter past 7 in the evening, local time. Our local contact guy for the Institute for Astronomy, Dr. Armstrong, is going to throw open the doors at the IfA for anyone who wants to watch it on their feed beginning at 6:30. Dinner and a show!! You can also watch a simulation, real-time, at eyes.nasa.gov Not quite as bandwidth intensive as streaming video, you just need Java. Best! Tracy Latimer From: ba...@chorus.net To: fuj...@me.com Date: Sun, 5 Aug 2012 11:53:17 -0500 CC: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Will the Mars Rover landing be televised? Also unfortunately---we are still in the dark ages here with dial-up (soon to be changing though)---thus making watching a streaming video from the NASA link kind of hard. What about CNN or FOX?? Kirk. - Original Message - From: Gary Fujihara fuj...@me.com To: Becky and Kirk ba...@chorus.net Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Sunday, August 05, 2012 11:39 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Will the Mars Rover landing be televised? Also, if you do not have an internet connection (how are you reading this?), you may be able to find a science center in your region that will hold a public event featuring the webcast. On Aug 5, 2012, at 6:27 AM, Becky and Kirk ba...@chorus.net wrote: Unfortunately, not all of us receive NASA TV though. Are any of the big networks going to cover it? Kirk - Original Message - From: Chris Peterson c...@alumni.caltech.edu To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Sunday, August 05, 2012 10:22 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Will the Mars Rover landing be televised? Covered live on NASA TV starting at 9:30 pm MDT, in advance of the landing at about 11:30 pm MDT. Chris *** Chris L Peterson Cloudbait Observatory http://www.cloudbait.com On 8/5/2012 9:00 AM, Brien Cook wrote: Does anyone know if the Mars rover landing will be televised tonight? __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list Gary Fujihara Big Kahuna Meteorites PO Box 4175, Hilo, HI 96720 (808) 640-9161 http://bigkahuna-meteorites.com/ http://www.ebay.com/sch/fujmon/m.html __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Venus transit in HI
WE are getting some good pictures here; one of my friends is taking a shot about every 5-10 min and we hope to get some of them online after. Viewing contidions range from terrible (Oahu is socked in, with rain at the primary viewing spot) to adequate (Maui has intermittent clouds, but Haleakala is mostly cloudy) to nice on the Big Island (Gary, are you seeing some good stuff?) Best! Tracy Latimer __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Steve Curry -- the law catches up
It couldn't happen to a nicer yoyo. Everyone will, I believe, be very happy when this thorn in the collective side of meteorite science is removed. I'm still not sure if it's deliberate deception or simple self delusion. Remember the preacher who was told by God that he had an authentic Mars meteorite? Best! Tracy Latimer __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Moon rocks
Pretty bogus isn't half of it. He claims it's a -meteorite- brought back from the Moon by one of the Apollo expeditions. There have only been 2 meteorites recognized in the returned lunar samples, and you can bet your sweet bippy this ain't one of them. Meteoric, possibly, but this guy is talking through his hat for the rest of it. Regrettably, ebay is very much caveat emptor; as long as they get their cut, you can post anything that doesn't openly conflict with their selling guidelines, fraudulent or not. Crazy people or scammers are not disallowed. Best! Tracy Latimer __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] What private collector has the most localities?
While I have over 300 individual meteorite finds and falls in my collection, many of them are tiny, in the pea or smaller size range. Space and price are both considerations, especially on the rare ones. I don't have more than a dozen that will not fit in a 1 square gem jar. Best! Tracy Latimer __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] More Photos
I particularly like the Borg cube 4 or 5 shots into the slide show! Best! Tracy Latimer From: arizonake...@cox.net To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Wed, 1 Feb 2012 00:54:56 -0700 Subject: [meteorite-list] More Photos Hello List Here's another set of Photos taken today. http://www.flickr.com/photos/arizonaviking/sets/72157629125547023/show/ Enjoy ArizonaKeith Ps Your welcome Bob, Bernd, Jason and all the other who liked my photos in PM. I wish you all were here. __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Merry Christmas
Mele Kalikimaka e ka Hauoli Makahiki Hou (with apologies to Da Big Kahuna for my atrocious spelling!) Best! Tracy Latimer __ HAPPY HOLIDAYS!! Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Book Les Meteorites de France - your advice ?
You should be able to convert it over to an e-book for other platforms as easily as for iPad. Most e-readers can handle a PDF file, so you could either deliver it as a CD-ROM or a download. Check into what formats are required for some of the more common readers, like Kindle or Nook; we'll lose something in not being able to see the color pictures (and in my case, will have to run it through Babelfish or another translator, because my French is nonexistent!) but there should be some interest in the meteorite community. Best! Tracy Latimer Date: Wed, 23 Nov 2011 14:15:14 + From: pierremariep...@yahoo.fr To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] Book Les Meteorites de France - your advice ? Hello, in 2005, I wrote a book called Les Meteorites de France which was a success in term of sales and was considered as one of the most documented about french historical falls. No this book is not sold any more and my former editor doesn't want to publish a second edition. I have to find a solution. Either sell it through an online service such as Lulu.com but a 500 pages book with many color pictures would be at a really high price (about $80), either sell it as a PDF file on a CDROM with a really low cost.I also thought about selling it as an epub book for ipad but it's really complicated and many people don't own an ipad. Do you have any other solutions ? Would you buy this kind of book even written in french ? Kind regards, Pierre-Marie Pele meteor-center.com __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Statistically Speaking
Date: Sat, 19 Nov 2011 18:46:08 -0700 From: mrmeteor...@gmail.com To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] Statistically Speaking Hi all, ~~snip~~ 3. Q. Has any animal ever been hit by a meteorite? A. I'm not sure... there are stories of a dog and a cow being hit...but? Supposedly Valera struck and killed a cow. New Concord hit and killed a colt. The Nakhla dog is apocryphal. Best! Tracy Latimer __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Ron Hartman
That's very sad to hear. Ron was one of the mainstays of the List. My heart goes out to his family. Best! Tracy Latimer From: impact...@aol.com Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2011 01:51:53 -0400 To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] Ron Hartman Hello Everybody Tonight I have the very sad mission to inform you all that Ron Hartman, one of the inventors of the IMCA has passed away. __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] AD-Conception Junction Pallasite eBay listing
I took a look; have all the non-ebay specimens been sold? The Specimens section of the site is empty, without even any remnant pictures. The other pix only whet my appetite! I love pallasites, so I will hope for more, but right now Conception Junction looks to be made primarily of Unobtanium. Best! Tracy Latimer Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2011 09:41:08 -0500 From: stlouismeteori...@gmail.com To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] AD-Conception Junction Pallasite eBay listing Hello List, As many of you have heard, a new pallasite has just been approved by the Nomenclature Committee on August 29 and is being made available to private collectors and institutions. Conception Junction, Missouri USA http://www.lpi.usra.edu/meteor/metbull.php?code=53877 Information about this unique and very beautiful pallasite, as well as the remaining material available for sale can be view here: http://www.conceptionjunctionpallasite.com A part-slice (monograph included !) is now available on eBay: http://www.ebay.com/itm/180717960259 Please browse through the website and look in detail at the photos of this very interesting and beautiful new pallasite. This is a very cool new meteorite. Thanks, Karl Aston IMCA 6136 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] List
I am the farthest thing in the world from technophobic; if I were, I would never have found the List ;) As Marcin says, to each their own. Facebook is a useful tool, but it is one which I do not choose to use, simply because setting it up and maintaining it could easily become a huge time drain. I don't own a smartphone, a quality still/video camera, or an iPad either, although those things are available to me. I'd rather spend the time and money on other things, including meteorites. Best! Tracy Latimer Date: Fri, 19 Aug 2011 15:19:38 -0700 From: e...@meteoritesusa.com To: mar...@meteoryt.net CC: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] List Absolutely! The connections and information and social aspect of Facebook is much better and more pleasing than a simple email list. I guess some people are just technophobic. The photos, videos, link sharing, commenting, liking, friending, connecting and social interaction just can't be matched. Photo galleries can be created at will, you can stay updated on what your friends are doing, and it's good for business! Almost every big dealer I know uses Facebook for selling their meteorites. It's a great marketing tool, and you don't get bitched at by whiners who don't like seeing an Ad in their email box. If you don't want to look at an ad, it's easy to just move on to the next thing on Facebook. Way cooler than a static email list... Oh, and Geoff Notkin's Club Space Rock... Well, it rocks too! Pure meteorites and social networking. Email lists are being phased out the way the dinosaurs were. Facebook and Google+ are the asteroids that smashed the email lists and traditional forums. Eric On 8/19/2011 3:05 PM, Marcin Cimala wrote: I'm amazed at the old school mentality coming from the people in the meteorite world. Hmmm, why so negative? Why so technologically phobic? Interesting... Regards, Eric Agree... Sometimes we have a reason to not talk with family members. As we say in Poland, You look good with family only on photos. Seriously, I can visit my family, but I cant visit YOU ! But if You share Your photos, links You like, places You have visit, meteorites You just purchased its very nice. I can know better meteorite list members. Only positive vibrations. And You decide what You share with world. And dont compare FB from 4-5 years ago to present times becouse its ridiculous. Its like comparing Wright Brothers plane to F-16. Ohh... -[ MARCIN CIMALA ]-[ I.M.C.A.#3667 ]- http://www.Meteoryty.pl marcin(at)meteoryty.pl http://www.PolandMET.com marcin(at)polandmet.com http://www.Gao-Guenie.com GSM: +48 (793) 567667 [ Member of Polish Meteoritical Society ] __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] List
I tried to sign up for Facebook 4 or 5 years ago. For some reason, my application never went through. Although many people love Facebook, with some of the horror stories circulating, I think I'm glad it failed. Best! Tracy Latimer From: alm...@kconline.com To: countde...@earthlink.net; sterling_k_w...@sbcglobal.net; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Fri, 19 Aug 2011 04:50:54 -0400 CC: e...@meteoritewatch.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] List Count, Sounds like a can of worms. --AL Mitterling - Original Message - From: Count Deiro countde...@earthlink.net To: Sterling K. Webb sterling_k_w...@sbcglobal.net; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Cc: Eric Wichman e...@meteoritewatch.com Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2011 10:32 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] List Facebook Been up on it about a month. Since I made that error in judgement, my web mail has turned into a spam can. I feel like Betty Davis who famously quippedWho do I have to go to bed with to get off this movie? Best to all, Count Deiro IMCA 3536 -Original Message- __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] New type of fake moldavite coming soon?
I've seen a lot of bad fakes on eBay. 98% of the time, the giveaway is the color -- the fakes are usually that horrible Jolly Rancher apple-green. Often the striations are nonexistent or poorly formed as well. Maybe 10% of the sellers have what appears to be authentic Moldavite material. The others are selling fakes; I suspect a lot of the woo-ish sellers are merely reselling the fakes that were palmed off on them without verification. The fakes are getting better, and Leon's getting LAGER!!! Best! Tracy Latimer From: veom...@gmail.com Date: Mon, 1 Aug 2011 12:15:01 -0500 To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] New type of fake moldavite coming soon? My buddy Justin at The-Vug just put out a new article on Fakeminerals.com about a new type of fake moldavite that has been recently spotted in China: http://www.fakeminerals.com/?p=146 I'm not sure if this is the material people are already familiar with, or if it is indeed a new type, but it's impressive looking. - Yinan __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] OT: Congratulations Apollo astronauts
Heh. The astronauts are all more courteous than I would be in a similar situation, with the possible exception of Buzz Aldrin. He has a better right hook than I do. Best! Tracy Latimer Date: Sun, 31 Jul 2011 19:24:34 -0700 From: epgrond...@yahoo.com To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] OT: Congratulations Apollo astronauts Hi all - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9arbAsN6MCE hey, just because you're getting older, it does not necessarily mean that you don't have the right stuff anymore... E.P. __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite found in Xinjiang
This must predate the last bout of glaciation in the area; note how it has a huge terrestrial rock sitting on top of it. Best! Tracy Latimer From: mar...@meteoryt.net To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2011 12:20:36 +0200 Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite found in Xinjiang oh my god, what a find !!! And look what they doing. Instead of transport this monster and then inspect, they start from cutting it in different places, like kids that cant wait to open their candys. But this photos are epic !!! -[ MARCIN CIMALA ]-[ I.M.C.A.#3667 ]- http://www.Meteoryty.pl marcin(at)meteoryty.pl http://www.PolandMET.com marcin(at)polandmet.com http://www.Gao-Guenie.com GSM: +48 (793) 567667 [ Member of Polish Meteoritical Society ] Ha As with China, it must be large ;-) http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/photo/2011-07/19/content_12932999.htm Best wishes, Woreczko __ Informacja programu ESET NOD32 Antivirus, wersja bazy sygnatur wirusow 6305 (20110718) __ Wiadomosc zostala sprawdzona przez program ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.pl lub http://www.eset.com __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Children's Lit (was OT^2 Vesta)
Oo boy. As a children's librarian, this is a tricky subject. Comparing _Charlie and the Chocolate Factory_ to _The Wonderful Flight to the Mushroom Planet_ is rather like comparing fresh, perfectly ripe strawberries to filet mignon. Both are food, both are wonderful in their own way, and both may not be to one or another person's taste (one may be a devout vegetarian, while the other has an allergy and an aversion to strawberries). Since both have apparently stood the test of time (we have copies of both in our library, and both still circulate), I am happy to see them simply being borrowed and reread. Presently, the trick is finding books that pry children away from their console games and Facebook to read. Harry Potter, although not exactly great literature of the caliber of Huckleberry Finn, did that in spades, and introduced a generation of kids to the idea of reading for pleasure. If it gets them to read, I grit my teeth and find them Hannah Montana or the novelization of the Transformers movie. Teaching kids to read for knowledge or discrimination can come later; the first thing is to get them to read at all, and develop that habit. Boy has this thread taken a long strange journey! Best! Tracy Latimer To: i...@rom.on.ca; Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com; nakhla...@comcast.net; sterling_k_w...@sbcglobal.net Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2011 12:35:52 -0400 From: mexicod...@aim.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] OT^2 Vesta (Canada - see #4 below) I loved Charlie and wouldn't think of letting anyone's opinion change that in any way. But understanding what was at the root of the disagreement is important. Another favorite author, Ursula Le Guin weighed in strongly on the side of Eleanor Cameron ... To them Charlie was the Simpsons vs. the light. I think it is important to put this in context. Charlie took the country by storm and was so popular among children that plenty of the old literature was tossed aside. What's your favorite book? I would have answered Charlie for a time... Eleanor Cameron's opinions do absolutely nothing to affect my enjoyment and memory of her stories, they are on their own merit classics and could have been written by the wicked witch of the west for all I care. I'm not old enough to have read them originally but my interest in space travel was also influenced greatly by the first book (which I lucked out and won in a spelling bee in 3rd grade by a teacher who recognized my early interests, though my sppeling is still at that level). Going one step further, I see Cameron's points of view and am receptive to them. Receptive doesn't mean agreement, just that she is definitely not a twit! America was modernizing just coming off the civil rights movement and still dealing with the equal rights amendment fallout for women, and there were still many fissures. It wasn't a case of one 'twit', it was a full fledged 50% / 50% argument where everyone had an opinion. Her objections really went something like these four categories if you read the entire exchange: 1- that children were becoming taken over by television instead of reading, action, one dimensional villains and heroes, and now the kiddie literature was going in that direction 2 - that Charlie was a cruel book 3 - that the characters were superficial in Charlie 4 - that locking up a race of African pygmies with green hair and forcing Charlie's grandparents by that removing them against their will, to live in the confines of a closed, walled chocolate factory forever, similar to the situation of the African tribe, was not the way children should view interactions with elderly. For #1, it was the beginning of the complaint that television - it still is a valid argument today For #2, kids thought it was funny, when other children were stuffed in tubes or inflate into giant blueberries until they exploded, etc. Well, plenty of fairy tales are cruel. Eleanor would have loved Harry Potter for a change. For #3 Charlie's cohort winners had no character development whatsoever, they were just there to stereotype and abuse; Charlie's extreme poverty was never explored, just exploited as a prop and the solution to life was getting a piece (or factory) of candy. well, welcome to the real world ;-( For #4, we are not in the right times to judge the sensitive racial issue as the country was going through pains at the time - something absent in Canada, and seeing it as a Canadian, it must have been tempting for everyone to offer an opinion. She was respectful about it. #4 continued: The issue about the elderly has special meaning to me now and is disconcerting. I never would have understood it until a few years ago and I really do wish that Charlie was kinder than it was by describing them as one dimensional old farts you had to force to do kids things. This is the only thing I would change since the original
Re: [meteorite-list] Collateral Damage.
At least when the peddler sold Jack the magic beans in exchange for the cow, they really were magic... :) Best! Tracy Latimer From: altm...@meteorite-martin.de To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Sun, 3 Jul 2011 17:57:02 +0200 Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Collateral Damage. Grandma, stop worrying. He says the rocks are worth a million! http://kuerzer.de/grapesofheaven __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Space Shuttle...honorary stories
Cool story! About the only couple of things that I can offer are the fact that DH and I will be on our way to Florida as of the 3rd... to see the Shuttle launch. We got lucky and I managed to acquire tickets to see it from the Space Center. That, and my Great-Uncle Benny was on the team that designed the gantry supports, the big arms that stabilize the rockets and drop out of the way on launch. We have a family picture from the 60s of him with the rest of his team and some other notables, such as Wernher Von Braun :) Best! Tracy Latimer From: rickm...@earthlink.net To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2011 20:59:48 -0700 Subject: [meteorite-list] Space Shuttle...honorary stories Hi List, While the 'heat-tile' subject is still 'hot' and since our beloved fleet nears the end of its 'scheduled missions' I offer a story, and invite others after this: (Stick with my personal indulgences along the way...especially those of us have music in commonthey will pay off!) START: back when I witnessed the hand-helf Heat-Tile firing with the acetalyne torch (1978-80?), at a party, I was a guitarist in a 5x bluegrass band: Steve, a banjo guy, but this time playing bass; Buzz, another guitarist; Dave, banjo-player extrodinaire; and me, newbe guitar guy. MIDDLE: One day, between tunes, we all sat around and shared our future passionsBuzz said he wanted to be a software designer in Silicon Valley after he finished his electrical engineering degree (we were all at UCDavis); Dave wanted to go on to be accepted for his Masters somewhere and be a farm advisor; I wanted to continue studying guitar and somehow be David Grisman's guitar player, following Tony Rice and Mark O'Connor in the role (good luck, me!); and Steve said he wanted to be an astronaut. This was in 1978..Really?!!! All of us achieved our goals...Buzz, yes; Dave, yes; Me yesand. Steve Robinsonbanjo-player extrodinaireyet more noteably known for his stellar Mission Specialty trips up to the Space Shuttle. (Those of you in the know, KNOW!) I captured the DVR from the NASA-channel, watching my music pal inspecting the tiles in zero gravity How cool is that!!! -Richard Montgoemry __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] The Apollo Moon Rock Collection
Can we please refrain from bringing politics into meteorites, unless the politician in question is actively doing something for or against our hobby? Mahalo, Tracy Latimer Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2011 15:52:58 -0400 From: actionshoot...@carolina.rr.com To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com; a...@unm.edu Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] The Apollo Moon Rock Collection Furthermore, I doubt if many Americans would be in favor of cutting up pieces of the Declaration of Indepence or chunks of the Liberty Bell to sell as high priced souvenirs, or sell off tracts of Yellowstone Park to reduce our nation's debt. Obama hasn't thought about that yet. :0 -- Stuart McDaniel Lawndale, NC IMCA#9052 http://www.facebook.com/Stuart.McDaniel.No.1 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Illinois, Indiana, Ohio glacial deposits
That was my thought as well. There seem to be parallels here between the Muonionlusta field, which has been relocated by glacier, and the stones you are finding. Are they in terminal moraines, or individuals in fields? There is a reason why Moraine, OH was named that! Best! Tracy Latimer From: mikest...@gmail.com Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2011 15:31:26 -0700 To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Illinois, Indiana, Ohio glacial deposits Maybe it would be appropriate to bring out some larger coils, like are commonly used in the Muonionalusta field, to look for deeper stones? -Michael in so. Cal. On Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at 11:11 AM, E.P. Grondine wrote: Hi everyone - Well, the meteorites won't be pristine, with some 13,000 years of weathering, but then - Who'd have thought that the mid center of the US would have had its own meteorite transport system, one paralleling that in Antarctica in some ways? Dave, thanks for sharing. E.P. __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] FW: Re : Moroccan business meteorite issuffering, or why I buy from a known dealer
For some reason this disappeared into the aether yesterday, so here is the second try... From: daist...@hotmail.com To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re : Moroccan business meteorite issuffering, or why I buy from a known dealer Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2011 17:54:06 + And here is the fundamental rub for those of us who don't search out the meteorites in situ. Many of us are pleased to let someone else do the leg work of negotiating in unknown lands, where we don't speak the language or have contacts, go through the hassle of importing the meteorites (stolen or confiscated are 2 biggies), getting them analyzed for classification, and preparing them for display. Purchasing from a Moroccan dealer remotely, where you can't touch the meteorites before purchase and are buying blind, is much less appealing than paying a premium to the middleman who does all the other things, and presents us with an attractive display piece. I don't speak French or any other good language for North Africa, and my travel budget is tiny. With this in mind, my .8g polished Itqiy slice @ $75 is a bargain! Best! Tracy Latimer From: alm...@kconline.com To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2011 06:33:27 -0400 Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Re : Re : Moroccan business meteorite issuffering Hi Gary and all, I agree Gary with all of what you say. If someone has the choice of buying from a dealer at a table, or off a website where they have the specimen and shipping is a couple of days away, why would they search or buy from wholesalers/retailers from the NWA region? Also a single purchase would have to be classified if the Moroccan's haven't done this creating more expense, if it isn't a fall that hasn't been classed yet. If you don't know that supplier/dealer would you be willing to take a risk with your funds?? Moroccan dealers won't be able to sell to many of my customers because they trust me and know what I am offering. Sorry but most dealers have the customers to sell to and not lone sales from the desert sands. Best! --AL Mitterling Mitterling Meteorites __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Thunder stone
Thunder Stone, your e-mail has apparently been phished and you are spamming the list! Best! Tracy Latimer __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] non-magnetic meteorites?
Don't forget that sometimes terrestrial rocks (not man-made) can show enough magnetic attraction to make you go Hmmm, especially if it appears they show other meteoric characteristics, like something that appears to be fusion crust or flow lines. The local Hawaiian basalts have enough iron content to stick weakly to a magnet. Best! Tracy Latimer Date: Tue, 24 May 2011 11:41:55 -0400 From: davidgunn...@fairpoint.net To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] non-magnetic meteorites? Hi All, It's commonly understood that all meteorites are magnetic to varying degrees, or so I've read. I'm wondering if there are any exceptions to that iron clad rule of thumb? __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Question - meteorites returned from Moon
Is this a third meteorite fragment, distinct from Hadley Rille and Bench Crater? Could there be more waiting to be found on continued inspection? Best! Tracy Latimer From: lgar...@asu.edu To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Sun, 22 May 2011 10:06:42 -0700 Subject: [meteorite-list] Question - meteorites returned from Moon A 1976 paper in Earth and Planetary Science Letters describes a unique chondrite (meteorite) returned from the Moon. The fragment measures 3 x 1.5 mm and shows some similarities with the CI meteorites. McSween (1976) A new type of chondritic meteorite found in Lunar soil. Earth and Planetary Science Letter, 31, 193-199. Laurence CMS ASU __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Impact Question
~~snip~~ We tend to think of nuclear reaction devices as the ultimate weapons, of course, but imagine if you had one of those railgun thingees and could speed up a 10 kilogram steel slug to 920 kilometers per second. OK, I know that's really fast, but in a vacuum with lots of energy on hand (about 1200 gigawatt-hours) and a long enough railgun, all possible in orbit somewhere, why not? ~~snip~~ Anyone remember that old Heinlein book, The Moon Is a Harsh Mistress? When the Lunar colonies were trying to gain independence from Earth, they started shelling Earth with the rail guns they had previously used for delivering Moon-grown grain. Previously, the grain barges were inserted into LEO for relatively gentle splashdown or orbital retrieval; once the engineers got PO'd, they started aiming them more directly. They made some impressive divots, as I recall. Even though it's fiction, the physics are still sound. Best! Tracy Latimer __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] List of meteorites from Vesta?
I had thought that dunites were Martian, like Chassigny. Have dunites been identified from other sources? Best! Tracy Latimer Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2011 22:58:02 -0400 From: meteoritem...@gmail.com To: fips_br...@yahoo.de CC: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] List of meteorites from Vesta? Hi Regine, All HEDOD meteorites are assumed to be Vestan in origin - Howardite, Eucrite, Diogenite, Olivine diogenite, and Dunite. :) Best regards, MikeG -- Mike Gilmer - Galactic Stone Ironworks Meteorites Website - http://www.galactic-stone.com Facebook - http://www.facebook.com/galacticstone News Feed - http://www.galactic-stone.com/rss/126516 Twitter - http://twitter.com/galacticstone EOM - http://www.encyclopedia-of-meteorites.com/collection.aspx?id=1564 --- On 4/6/11, Regine Petersen wrote: Hi all, Is there a list of assumed Vesta meteorites? Regine __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list -- -- Mike Gilmer - Galactic Stone Ironworks Meteorites Website - http://www.galactic-stone.com Facebook - http://www.facebook.com/galacticstone News Feed - http://www.galactic-stone.com/rss/126516 Twitter - http://twitter.com/galacticstone EOM - http://www.encyclopedia-of-meteorites.com/collection.aspx?id=1564 --- __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] NYT NEWS FLASH: Meteorite Looter caught red-handed!!
Ha! He's a *whisper* meteorite-fondler. Catch them young and who knows what direction it will take; heaven forbid he might become a ...a... SCIENTIST! Best! Tracy Latimer (presently down with flu) Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2011 19:38:07 +0200 From: karm...@email.de To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] NYT NEWS FLASH: Meteorite Looter caught red-handed!! Do you see his demonic eyes, his greedy, grabbing hand and his cruel mouth... He doesn't care about science or scientific progress, he's simply a greedy, evil-minded collector who wants to HAVE IT ;-) Martin (another one) -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: Martin Altmann Gesendet: 05.04.2011 19:17:40 An: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Betreff: [meteorite-list] NYT NEWS FLASH: Meteorite Looter caught red-handed!! Ha!!! http://kuerzer.de/NYTscandal Martin __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Tsunami inbound
Jon and I are battening the hatches. About 3 months ago, I bought something called Stormtek sandbags -- soak them in water and they plump up like hot dogs. We put layers of them all around our doors, and are supplementing with plywood and cement blocks. We'll hope they aren't tested. We are preparing to bug out up the mountain, being within half a mile of shore. The sirens have been going off every hour. We may be away for a while if things go poorly, but will keep posted as much as possible. Good thoughts please! Best! Tracy __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Any Word from?
OMG!!!1111! Got a call from one of our nerd herd about 8 last night, telling us about the Japan earthquake. Tsunami alert followed hot on its heels. The first wave was scheduled to roll in at 3 this morning; we spent 5 hours battening the hatches, sandbagging the house, and generally preparing to bug out. We left the house about 2 a.m., went up the mountain and found a parking spot. First wave passed with no incident, wave #2 was substantial and rolled inland in several spots, with a few more sloshes to follow. To the N and S of us was somewhat awash, but no water where our house was, thank heavens! Returned downhill about 5:30, dozed briefly, then got on the phone and told all the hench to stay home today, both at DH's and my workplace. Fell into bed again, but the phone kept ringing about every half hour to 45 minutes with people checking on us, just as we were about to fall asleep each time! Gave up on sleep around noon and spend the next hour unsandbagging the house, putting away the bugout stuff, etc. etc. I'm wiped! The only good thing was how spectacularly clear the skies were at 5 a.m. Lovely view of the Milky Way, the Southern Cross and the Centauris, when I am usually asleep. Thank you all for your concern; my thoughts go out to the people of Japan who are in far worse straits at the moment. Best! Tracy Latimer From: j...@hc.fdn.com To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2011 10:12:29 -0500 Subject: [meteorite-list] Any Word from? Hello all, 10:am EST Has anyone heard from Tracey,Gary, Dirk et al, lately?? Good thoughts for all. John L IMCA# 1896 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] East Coast Meteor and MN Meteor 1MAR2011
*timidly raises hand* I, too, would like another fall out here. We haven't had one since the 40s, and it went walkabout! Best! Tracy Latimer Date: Tue, 1 Mar 2011 20:43:48 -0800 From: countde...@earthlink.net To: drtan...@yahoo.com; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com; meteor...@meteorobs.org Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] East Coast Meteor and MN Meteor 1MAR2011 Hello Dirk and Listers, I've been staring up at the sky for monthsHaven't seen s---. It seems more meteors are clobbering the East Coast than bombs fell on London during WW2. It's about G-- damn time we got a boomer out here in Nevada. One of those big ass bolides detonating and fragging and scaring the s--- out of the peasants. Boredstiff. Count Deiro IMCA 3536 -Original Message- From: drtanuki drtan...@yahoo.com Sent: Mar 1, 2011 7:44 PM To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com, Global Meteor Observing Forum meteor...@meteorobs.org Subject: [meteorite-list] East Coast Meteor and MN Meteor 1MAR2011 Dear List, Reports are coming in about two meteors observed tonight. NY, NJ, PA, VA, DC Meteor ~9:40pm EST 1MAR2011 http://lunarmeteoritehunters.blogspot.com/2011/03/breaking-news-ny-nj-pa-meteor-1mar2011.html Minn. Green Meteor 7:25pm CST 1MAR2011 http://lunarmeteoritehunters.blogspot.com/2011/03/kingston-mn-green-meteor-725pm.html Best Regards, Dirk Ross...Tokyo __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Strange things found while hunting for meteorites : )
This wasn't on a meteorite hunt, it was while my husband and I were out playing paintball in an 'unimproved' section of Windward Oahu. Renegade fields are not uncommon, sharing ground with hikers and pig hunters, and the players all parked their cars at the foot of some deeply eroded areas and hiked into the field, maybe a half mile. No one had a 4x4 that day, but obviously people had managed to get Jeeps and other vehicles up the very poor tracks into the area. While we were playing, several people decided to explore the farther ends of the field. At the end of one of the Jeep trails, there was a collection of long-abandoned shacks, Quonset huts, and stripped cars, one of which was a brand new van from a music store. It looked like someone had been using this area to dump stolen vehicles, after taking what they wanted. We finished playing and called the police on the van; we had no idea how they had managed to wriggle that van up into that area. Maybe pot farmers? Aside from the van, nothing else in the area looked like it had been used for years. It could have been someone's homestead, or even an abandoned WWII storage area. Best! Tracy Latimer Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2011 22:12:08 -0500 From: meteoritem...@gmail.com To: joshuatreemus...@embarqmail.com CC: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Strange things found while hunting for meteorites : ) Yeah, when we first found it, we were a little apprehensive. Our first reaction was to high-tail it out of there before some crazy hobo emerged from the lean-to pointing a gun at us. But we soon realized that the site had been abandoned for some time, so we looked around a bit and poked through the debris, looking for anything of interest or value. It did feel really weird, because I kept wondering where the camp owner went, who he/she was, and why they were living in a crude camp out in the middle of nowhere. Was it someone on the run from the law? Someone down on their luck? Or were they doing something illegal out there? It made the hair on the back of my neck stand up a bit, and my hand was close to my Arkansas toothpick the whole time we were there. On 2/21/11, JoshuaTreeMuseum wrote: Mike: I stumbled upon almost the exact same setup while traipsing through the dense thicket looking for soft-shell turtles somewhere in the middle of Florida back in the late 1970s. I thought it was some kind of camp for runaway kids. It would be weird to live in those conditions. I kept thinking a psycho was about to murder me at any minute so I didn't stay long. Phil Whitmer - While not a meteorite story, my stepson and I did find something strange while hunting for fossils and arrowheads. While exploring a wooded area near the Hillsborough River, just outside of Tampa, we stumbled across an abandoned homeless camp. There was a lean-to with a mattress in it, a big plastic kiddie pool (for bathing and/or catching rainwater), the remnants of a garden, an animal coop, and a very odd assortment of bottles, buckets, birdhouses, and other objects. This out in the middle of a densely-wooded area, far off any trails, and it was a little spooky because it was hidden so well. Everything was low to the ground and concealed with palmetto fronds and vegetation. We literally walked right into the middle of it before we saw it. We took a few photos, logged the GPS coordinates, and kept on going. Best regards, MikeG __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list -- -- Mike Gilmer - Galactic Stone Ironworks Meteorites Website - http://www.galactic-stone.com Facebook - http://www.facebook.com/galacticstone News Feed - http://www.galactic-stone.com/rss/126516 Twitter - http://twitter.com/galacticstone Meteorite Top List - http://meteorite.gotop100.com EOM - http://www.encyclopedia-of-meteorites.com/collection.aspx?id=1564 --- __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Auction Policies
I would hope not. Floor bidders don't announce how high they are willing to go unless they make a bid for that amount and just don't increase it. Telling all the bidders present how much absentee bidders are willing to pay gives those in attendance an unfair advantage, as they can decide whether or not to up their bid. Absentee bidders can't, unless they have arranged to follow the action and can bid remotely, and I don't think real-time absentee bids are a feature yet of our meteorite auction. Wish I could have been there! Best! Tracy Latimer To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com From: fallingfus...@wi.rr.com Date: Sun, 6 Feb 2011 16:56:40 + Subject: [meteorite-list] Auction Policies Good morning everyone. I am wondering what auction policies are for absentee bids placed in a live auction. Is the highest maximum absentee bid normally announced to the floor bidder(s) that is/are actively bidding on that particular lot? I would find such a practice to be of advantage to the bidders in attendance, especially when the amount is announced just moments before the hammer is being raised for last call. Ryan Sent on the Sprint® Now Network from my BlackBerry® __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] The Most Interesting Meteorite Man in the World
That's nothin'. My touch cures lawrencite disease. Perfect slices spall off any meteorite I decide to cut. Dogs and other animals spontaneously bring me meteorites. I own pieces of EVERY meteorite. I can go through the most unpromising grab bag of rocks, and not only pull out a meteorite, it will be a planetary. Pull the other one, it's got bells on! Best! Tracy Latimer Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2011 21:12:36 -0500 From: meteoritem...@gmail.com To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] The Most Interesting Meteorite Man in the World Greetings List Members, Having just returned from hunting meteorites in Antarctica (in my shorts), I thought I would share some of the things that make me - The Most Interesting Meteorite Man in the World. __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite search in the Saquia al Hamra
Agreed. Your command and skill with the English language beats many native speakers! A most excellent account, and the photos are top notch. Best! Tracy Latimer From: carloselgua...@hotmail.com To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Sat, 1 Jan 2011 12:12:14 -0800 Subject: [meteorite-list] Meteorite search in the Saquia al Hamra Hello Svend and All, Most interesting account! Thank you. As the Count subtly hints, I would not correct anything. For those who haven't read this yet, Svend's account is first class. Carl2 ...With a German-Russian-Swiss team we undertook a small field trip into the Saquia al Hamra region in the Morrocan governed Western Sahara... http://www.meteorite-recon.com/en/Meteorites_Western_Sahara_1.htm __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Happy holidays!
And a Merry Merry and Happy Happy to all! Gingerbread is apolitical, as it was meant to be :D Best! Tracy Latimer __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Well, that was fun!
We just had a relatively(!) minor earthquake here in Maui -- epicenter about 20 miles from me, a 4.6 or .7 Nothing but a rumble and a lot of startled patrons and library staff. Shaken but not stirred, Tracy Latimer __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] FW: Native American use of meteorites
I find the Hopewell use of meteoric iron fascinating -- they beat it into foil (more or less) and used it to cover the surfaces of more mundane materials. Apparently some relatively intact meteorite chunks were found in burials, more as trade goods than objects of veneration -- the Hopewells were collectors too! Has anyone ever done comparisons of the meteorites found in Hopewell mounds and existing collections? Since several of the Hopewell meteorites were pallasites (and we know how uncommon that subgroup is) it should be relatively simple to determine which pallasite they are associated with. That would both give us another marker about their trade networks, and benchmark for when the pallasite fell, since the fall obviously predates collection, although the events are not necessarily contemporaneous. __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] FW: Okay, you get handed a rock...
This didn't go throught the first time. Sorry if it duplicates! ... and its owner says I think it's a meteorite. You go through the usual checks (magnetism, nickel content, visible presence of metal grains, etc.), and it is surprisingly at least probable. What can you do at this point to get it checked by an authority? Most of the big U departments and other scientists no longer are taking potential rocks from space because they are getting overrun with meteorwrongs, and I don't blame them for not wanting to analyze yet another lump of slag. As known dealers and collectors, we can weed out most meteorwrongs, but every once in a while we have one that pings our radar. I personally wouldn't want to mess with anything unless you convinced me it was a new find, not a NWAXXX bought from a 'dealer' on ebay. Best! Tracy Latimer __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Subject: Re: Habital Planet Discovery Announcement
I have often thought that the Star Trek term M-class planet, used to designate planets suitable for human-type lifeforms, would not be a bad way to talk about exosolar planets which might support our type of life. It implies other classes with other types of life being possible. Just my 2 dilithium crystals (do they fluoresce, I wonder :) Best! Tracy Latimer Frankly, I have always thought that we have very little business deciding what habitable means. The very term suggests that WE could inhabit the place. The notion that WE are the standard by which life should be judged is highly suspicious to me. It sounds very much like our former unjustified assumption that our planet was the center of the entire universe. Is there somewhere a team of alien astronomers going over their data on exoplanets with disappointment and crossing off the list of targets to pursue further a world that's too small, too hot, too wet, and with a significant amount of a poisonous gas in its atmosphere. They've just eliminated the Earth. It is very hard for us to conceive of life in any other terms than that of the life we know. It's difficult not to be a carbon chauvinist, as Carl Sagan called it. It's a very complex system that we know actually works. If there is another complex system that works, we wouldn't know how it could work, even if we could imagine its basics. As long as we know only one system of living things, we lack all basis for judgment. There could be thousands of forms of intelligent life in the galaxy, every one with a different physical system. Or there could be thousands of forms of intelligent life in the galaxy, every one made out of carbon, hydrogen, oxygen and nitrogen, and run by DNA instructions. There is no way to calculate the odds of either one. Sterling K. Webb - - Original Message - From: To: Sterling K. Webb Cc: ; Sent: Friday, October 01, 2010 6:23 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Subject: Re: Habital Planet Discovery Announcement Hi Sterling: I hope that I am not repeating something. Too many emails on too many subjects (not all the metlist) the last few days and getting ready for a conference. One thing seems to be missing in these discussions; how the planets were detected. All of the planets in the Gliese 581 system were detected by spectroscopy. You look at a spectral line from the star and, over time it shifts to the blue and then to the red. This is the Doppler shift as the star moves toward and away from you (respectively) as it is tugged on by it companion planet. It take many orbits of the planet to verify this motion, not just one signal. The bigger the planet, the more the spectral line shifts, the easier it is to see. The closer the planet is to the star, the shorter the cycle is and the easier it is to see (if the period is a year, it takes several years to see several cycles). This obviously gets very complicated when you have multiple planets and are looking for cycles on cycles. This leads to a very important thing that seems to be left out of all of these discussions.The numbers quoted are MINIMUM masses. The Doppler shift is the shift in the direction of the viewer. These numbers assume that the planet orbits are lined up with the Earth, which would be highly unlikely. For the Gliese planetary system, the inclination of the planets is not known. If their orbits are in reality tilted by say 45 degrees, their masses would be about 1.4 times the numbers quoted. Still not bad. The distance from the star is only dependent on the mass of the star and the distance of the planet from the star (Kepler's Law, orbital period), but the mass is dependent on the inclination of the orbits relative to the Earth. Again, I hope I am not repeating others on this. Larry Not to doubt the scientific trustworthiness of the Daily Mail, but they state that the light pulse was seen December, 2008, long before it was announced that the star Gliese 581 has habitable planets in orbit around it. But Gliese 581 c, the first low mass extrasolar planet found to be near its star's habitable zone, was discovered in April 2007, and Gliese 581 b, approximately Neptune-sized and the first planet detected around Gliese 581, was discovered in August 2005. Discovered at the same time as Gliese 581 c, a third planet, Gliese 581 d, has a mass of roughly 7 Earths, or half a Uranus, and an orbit of 66.8 Earth days. It orbits just within the outer limit of the habitable zone. The fourth planet, Gliese 581 e, was announced on 21 April 2009. This planet, at an estimated minimum mass of 1.9 Earths, is currently the lowest mass exoplanet identified around a normal star. The more distant Gliese 581 f was found at the same time
Re: [meteorite-list] Other hobbies?
Most of the things I do are too diffuse to count as hobbies: Home improvement (DH and I have an agreement: he keeps the computers happy, and I keep the house going.) Reading. I work in a library, and have first dibs on all new material. 'Nuff said! Paintball, although we haven't played for many years now. War-, computer, and role playing games. We have a weekly gaming session, plus online gaming. I collect semiprecious gems as well as meteorites, but not seriously. I also do various craft-type things, as diverse as quilting, wood carving, printmaking and jewelry making. Astronomy, especially promoting it to children. Next week, I've arranged for telescope time on one of the big Haleakala telescopes via the Maui branch of the Institute for Astronomy (UH), to be controlled through an Internet connection and viewed at our library. This will be the 4th time we've done this, and it's a real crowd pleaser. That's all I can think of for now. Best! Tracy Latimer __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Proper procedures, or How to get your 'meteorite' classified
I think that it might do a great deal to help weed out the meteorwrongs (or at least the people who insist that they have a meteorite when it's a chunk of asphalt) would be to explain that a necessary step for classification is a thin section and tell them that, unless they have a thin section made, no lab will bother looking at their rock. Point them in the direction of someone who will charge a reasonable fee for a thin section (say, at least $150) and let them foot the bill for wasting everyone's time. If you think their rock is interesting enough, you can always help with expenses, under the table. My 2 Bessey Specks, Best! Tracy Latimer __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Witnessed fall lunars?still no clear answere
It could just be dumb chance. Most of the lunars found don't appear to have fallen recently. We might be in a period when, for the couple of hundred years since meteorites started to be recognized for what they are, no lunars arrived where humans were in a position to witness their arrival. My 2 Bessey Specks (which is about all I can afford of planetaries!) Best! Tracy Date: Wed, 8 Sep 2010 07:49:15 -0700 From: steve.dunk...@yahoo.com To: almi...@localnet.com; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Witnessed fall lunars?still no clear answere Hi everyone. You did a good job of thrashing my response without giving an answere to the original question. Why are there no lunar witnessed falls? DR kortev did say there are twice as many Martian impacts,which to me is a lot or many more. Another person questioned if they would have enough velocity to be seen which is a verry good point because some would reach terminal velocity much sooner than an object from mars or the astroid belt. The amount of time recovered lunars take to reach earth has been said to be the same as mars meteorites. I am beginning to believe it may be a matter of recognition. A lunar would reach terminal velocity 20 or more miles up and fall without making a sound. And if it did make a sound the person finding it would do everyones is it a meteorite test. Brown or green crust? Doesnt stick to a magnet.vesicles on the crust. Must not be a meteorite. And what size does it take to launch a rock from the moon?small would do it. Cheers Steve __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] ASU suspends public meteorite identification program
Several years back, Dr. Garvie was kind enough to confirm that the 'meteorite' I had received from an ebay seller was in fact slag. I was 95% sure beforehand it was a meteorwrong, but it was good to have it confirmed. I'm sorry that the influx of manure has made it necessary for this benefit to be ended, but I can completely understand. Having some type of pre-screening by knowledgeable List members for a reasonable fee might be a good service. The major labs could establish a 'white list' of screeners, where a note accompanying the alleged meteorite could be used to get the rock out of the slush pile. The rest could be returned with a generic letter, We're sorry, but we no longer offer free evaluation of potential meteorites... Is it even cost effective to return said rocks without an accompanying SASE? Will this even slightly divert the crazies with their multi-ton Mars Rock from God? Best! Tracy Latimer __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] FW: Lafayette and other rarities (was The most expensive meteorite per gram?)
Hi Steve and all, Lafayette is truly a rare specimen. Only 30 grams total in private hands. I recently cut some of this material and still have small fragments that broke off from what I was cutting. After I sell what little I have left, it will be gone and nearly impossible to buy. --AL Mitterling I have a Bessey Speck (about .001g) of Lafayette acquired several years ago, for the unheard of price of under $100; somewhere in my records I have the original receipt and COA. It is one of my rarities, and I'm pleased I got it, although at the time I had no idea it was so difficult to come by! I also got a lentil sized piece of Honolulu for about $300 around the same time; this one actually came back to its fall origin from Europe! Best! Tracy Latimer __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] List is Quiet
Good news! The local cable network had moved around Meteorite Men, so I hadn't been recording it; TiVO couldn't find it. I stumbled across its new place and time by accident; hopefully my recorder will catch it consistently now! I's got some catching up to do! Best! Tracy Latimer Date: Sun, 1 Aug 2010 15:45:03 -0400 From: almi...@localnet.com To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] List is Quiet Greetings, The list isn't too active. Everyone must be watching the Meteorite Men. I've been enjoying it. Best! --AL Mitterling __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Looking for pallasites
If you find out, please let me know, as I've been looking for a number of those myself; they're all relatively rare :D I do know that back when Rob Elliot first found Hambleton, he complained that it was spalling off fragments. I offered to buy some of the bits that fell off, but then he stopped collecting and decided to keep the Hambleton main mass. I never got my bits :P Best! Tracy Latimer Date: Fri, 16 Jul 2010 18:01:15 -0700 From: mdavidha...@yahoo.com To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] Looking for pallasites Does anyone know where I can find a piece of any of the following Pallasites? Micros are fine. Cold Bay Dora Giroux Itzawisis Newport Phillips County Santa Rosalina Southbend Hambleton Jaybird Springs Thanks, David Hardy __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list _ Hotmail is redefining busy with tools for the New Busy. Get more from your inbox. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_2 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorites are very powerful stones!
I remember a short story about trees grown from seeds which had been taken on expeditions to other planets. The original tree was from a seed taken to the Moon, and it had a calming effect on those nearby. The tree came down (I don't remember the circumstances) and was replaced by a seedling from a Mars expedition. Trouble is, the tree was near some type of world peace conference... Best! Tracy Latimer From: warren3...@hotmail.com To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Fri, 2 Jul 2010 15:18:58 -0500 Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorites are very powerful stones! Hello all, Here is something along this line... at least to me any way. I had a guy contact me 2 days ago wanting to know if I had any meteorite cutting dust. He said he wanted to try growing weed in it. Anyone ever heard of this?? LOL I have some, but I don't know about using it for that. Sounds like California is going crazy. Warren Sansoucie IMCA #3174 St. Louis MO Date: Fri, 2 Jul 2010 10:13:57 -0700 From: e...@meteoritesusa.com To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] Meteorites are very powerful stones! ...Meteorites should NOT be used in elixirs at all... http://pagan-writing.blogspot.com/2010/07/meteorites.html Regards, Eric Wichman Meteorites USA __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list _ The New Busy is not the old busy. Search, chat and e-mail from your inbox. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_3 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Mars Odyssey THEMIS Images: ET?
I'm fairly sure the line would be 'Extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof.' Are you asking whether NASA would endorse a claim that an image from one of their Mars photos is proof of extraterrestrial intelligence? Several people have pointed to details that they found on NASA photos and said that they are structures or Stonehenge-like constructs or monuments or other proof of ET. Each time, when the area can be scrutinized in more detail, the 'pyramids' or whatnot have been shown to be a natural formation, trick of lighting, or other explanation. No aliens needed. Even the famous 'Face' falls apart when examined more closely. Humans are pattern-seeking beasties; it's a survival mechanism, but sometimes it backfires on us. It would have to be a pretty obvious and verifiable alien artifact to get the thumbs up from NASA or JPL as such, and so far, nothing even remotely like that has been discovered. My 2 shekels. Best! Tracy Latimer Date: Fri, 21 May 2010 11:42:05 -0700 From: balisterja...@att.net To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Mars Odyssey THEMIS Images: May 17-21, 2010 Attn Ron! First I want to say that I have a Big, Big respect for NASA/JPL! And people like Patty Garsea who does grate work! But you never answered my question. How would NASA react if someone found faces on Mars that are like The Face on Mars? Or other structures using NASA's own pictures? Would they be excited and accepting? Or just the reverse? Just what would they do? I am sure we would all like to know the the answer to that and the official stance of NASA/JPL. _ The New Busy is not the too busy. Combine all your e-mail accounts with Hotmail. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?tile=multiaccountocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_4 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Blue Meteorite(Wrong)
It resembles a very weathered specimen of the type of vesiculated basalt with olivine that is fairly common out here in HI. Best! Tracy Latimer From: joshuatreemus...@embarqmail.com To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Fri, 7 May 2010 16:25:22 -0400 Subject: [meteorite-list] Blue Meteorite(Wrong) A farmer found this in his field and brought it in today. A University of Notre Dame geologist said it contained plagioclase, olivine and possibly iron. He said it probably is not a meteorite and I concur with his opinion. I told the farmer I would post the pics on the metlist for other opinions. It weakly attracts a strong magnet. It's obviously nothing like the Blue Chondrite, NWA 1941, and it's not Sonny's Blue Eagle, so whadizzit? I have no idea. Thanks for any thoughts, Phil Whitmer http://i190.photobucket.com/albums/z126/tboswell/May2010b/a.jpg http://i190.photobucket.com/albums/z126/tboswell/May2010b/b.jpg http://i190.photobucket.com/albums/z126/tboswell/May2010b/c.jpg http://i190.photobucket.com/albums/z126/tboswell/May2010b/d.jpg http://i190.photobucket.com/albums/z126/tboswell/May2010b/e.jpg http://i190.photobucket.com/albums/z126/tboswell/May2010b/f.jpg __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list _ Hotmail has tools for the New Busy. Search, chat and e-mail from your inbox. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_1 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] joining Facebook or photosharing sites
Last year, I tried to join Facebook, but never got the confirmation e-mail. After due reflection and considering the recent kafuffles about personal information being so accessible on some of these social networking sites, I think I'm glad it didn't go through. Best! Tracy Latimer Elizabeth Warner wrote: What I find even more funny is that because of the setting Eric had on the picture, that anybody could look at it, you don't need a Facebook account to see that picture. It would be like going to a personal website or to a picture on Flickr,... You wouldn't have been able post comments on the picture unless you were logged in, but that would have been true of almost any other photosharing website as well. Clear Skies! Elizabeth, avid Facebook user wonderful fields of WI, yet people can't bring themselves to join Facebook to look at a photo of a gorgeous fully fusion crusted flight oriented WI meteorite? :) __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list _ The New Busy is not the too busy. Combine all your e-mail accounts with Hotmail. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?tile=multiaccountocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_4 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Volcanic Ash is Magnetic
Part of the problem with trying to search for meteorites in Hawaii (problem, what problem? many of you probably think ;)) is that, in addition to our meteorite-inhospitable climate, many of our native lava rocks are metallic enough to trip a metal detector, and are weakly attracted to a rare earth magnet. Fresh ones also can be easily mistaken for meteorites by casual inspection. Hawaii is one big meteor-wrong! Best! (frustratedly) Tracy Latimer From: linton...@earthlink.net To: geo...@aol.com Date: Sun, 25 Apr 2010 11:51:33 -0700 CC: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Volcanic Ash is Magnetic Hmm. Very interesting. I was recently tryring out my new metal detector (thanks, Ruben) on our property in southern Utah and discovered that the lava bomb boulders strewn across the landscape are hot rocks and are slightly mag-attracted. The boulders were ejected from Boulder Mountain and Thousand Lake Mountain 20 to 30 million years ago in a lava flow eruption. They were distributed around the area by subsequent glacial activity. In addition, I found a great deal of aluminum foil, and a few bullet casings. No meteorites... yet. Linton - Original Message - From: To: Sent: Sunday, April 25, 2010 8:51 AM Subject: [meteorite-list] Volcanic Ash is Magnetic Well...just had an Eureka moment. I was sitting here at my desk with a bottle of volcanic ash from Mt. St. Helens and a earth magnet in my hand. I brought the magnet to the ash and discovered that the ash was attracted to it. I didn't know this before...son of a gun. :O) GeoZay __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list _ Hotmail has tools for the New Busy. Search, chat and e-mail from your inbox. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_1 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] OFF-TOPIC - Fake Lunar Landing Response
Why was there no direct Tv Feed - This one I can speak to. Ever since the movie The Dish, I've 'looked into' the Parkes Radio Telescope. The story as depicted in the movie is relatively correct, aside from a bit of dramatic license. Parkes was supposed to be a backup for the main video feed from the first Lunar broadcast, got bumped to main, and filled its responsibilities admirably in picking up and broadcasting the lunar feed, live. Several of the original techs who ran the telescope at that time are still around today; why not check with them about what they remember from that first broadcast? If you accuse them of faking the signal, well, I'm pretty sure you won't receive any offers of a 'stubbie' down at the local pub... Mythbusters did a fairly comprehensive debunking of some of the most common quibbles anti-moon-landing theorists have. Feel free to look it up. Best! Tracy Latimer _ Hotmail is redefining busy with tools for the New Busy. Get more from your inbox. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_2 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] $1 Million Dream Meteorite Collection
Everyone here knows my Pallasite Lust (tm), so I would try to get nice sized specimens of everything pallasite I could lay hands on -- at last that dinner plate sized slice of translucent Esquel would finally be mine! g After that, Lunars, Martians, a bigger piece of Itqiy, then some of the low numbered Ls and LLs... then a few of the really hedgehog-y moldavites... Then I'd probably have to check the account balance ;) Oh yeah, and an appropriate display cabinet. In koa and glass. ;) Wishfully, Tracy Latimer Date: Tue, 13 Apr 2010 21:12:47 -0700 From: e...@meteoritesusa.com To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] $1 Million Dream Meteorite Collection Hi listees and meteorite addicts, A $1 Million Dollar challenge. Scenario: You're a wealthy collector and have an extra $1 Million to spend on your meteorite collection. What do you buy? Have fun... Regards, Eric Wichman Meteorites USA __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list _ The New Busy is not the too busy. Combine all your e-mail accounts with Hotmail. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?tile=multiaccountocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_4 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Congratulations Steve and Geoff - Looks like I need to get the Science Channel
For some weird reason my TiVo hasn't recorded any episodes past the first one :( Best! Tracy Latimer From: stanleygr...@hotmail.com To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Thu, 8 Apr 2010 12:44:36 -0700 Subject: [meteorite-list] Congratulations Steve and Geoff - Looks like I need to get the Science Channel List: They're Back! Congratulations to Steve and Geoff for all their hard work. http://tvbythenumbers.com/2010/04/08/science-channels-2010-11-upfront-slate-stirs-audiences-imaginations/47750 Returning to the network is celebrated author and theoretical physicist Dr. Michio Kaku in an all-new season of SCI FI SCIENCE: PHYSICS OF THE IMPOSSIBLE. The METEORITE MEN, Steven Arnold and Geoff Notkin, return for a new season of searching for invaluable records of the universe, and it’s all about rockets and backyard innovation in Science Channel’s coverage of the annual L.D.R.S. competition. METEORITE MEN This thrilling series brings viewers closer to space than ever before. Geoff Notkin and Steve Arnold share a passion for adventure, traveling to wild places, and hunting for extraterrestrial visitors from outer space that have found a way to Earth. With three 4WD trucks, ATVs, state-of-the-art metal detectors and an array of other hunting gadgets, the Meteorite Men cover hundreds of acres of ground. No area goes uncharted as they search in plowed fields, dense forests, rolling hillsides, abandoned farms, and unmarked dirt roads in the hunt for valuable and mysterious rocks from space. _ The New Busy think 9 to 5 is a cute idea. Combine multiple calendars with Hotmail. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?tile=multicalendarocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_5 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list _ The New Busy think 9 to 5 is a cute idea. Combine multiple calendars with Hotmail. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?tile=multicalendarocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_5 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Rocks from Space Picture of the Day - March 22, 2010
I regret to say at one point I contributed to that stack. At least I was fairly sure what I had was a meteorwrong and my expectations were low; all I wanted was to confirm the bogosity as reflected in my cover letter. The seller has since left ebay under a cloud. Best! Tracy Latimer To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com From: mich...@rocksfromspace.org Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2010 13:20:26 + Subject: [meteorite-list] Rocks from Space Picture of the Day - March 22, 2010 http:www.rocksfromspace.org/March_22_2010.html _ Hotmail is redefining busy with tools for the New Busy. Get more from your inbox. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?ocid=PID27925::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:032010_2 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] The Sniper Mentality
I vary in my bidding methods, depending on the current bid, how many people are bidding, how much I want the item... People snipe so that they have the best chance of getting the item for as cheaply as possible. Usually I bid my maximum as late as possible; if I can, manually sniping in the last few seconds. This puts my bid in late enough so that others can't 'top' it or raise it and make me pay more. I may put in an absentee bid early on if I know I won't be online when the auction is closing. I don't always win my item, but often enough I do, and for less than I was willing to pay, that it works for me. That's my story, and I'm stickin' to it. ;) Best! Tracy Latimer _ Hotmail: Trusted email with powerful SPAM protection. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/210850553/direct/01/ __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Odd Ebay auction
I'm pretty sure they aren't carved -- there isn't enough variation between the samples they show, or tool marks either. Also, one of the figures appears to have what looks like a casting flaw around the chin and mouth, complete with bubbly voids where the casting material didn't penetrate. Best! Tracy Latimer From: impact...@aol.com Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2010 20:42:34 -0500 To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com CC: magel...@earthlink.net Subject: [meteorite-list] Odd Ebay auction Hello again, I just an email asking about this auction: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=380117353508 The question is: Is this really carved out of an iron meteorite? And if not, what is it? Frankly I don't know. It does not even look metallic to me. Could one of you answer that questions? Thank you. Anne M. Black http://www.impactika.com/ impact...@aol.com Vice-President, I.M.C.A. Inc. http://www.imca.cc/ __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list _ Hotmail: Trusted email with Microsoft’s powerful SPAM protection. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/210850552/direct/01/ __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] QUESTION RE METEORITES AND POP CULTURE
There is a 'Meteorite' perfume, but it doesn't smell anything like you might expect -- it is floral and very ethereal and doesn't last. Best! Tracy Latimer On Mar 12, 2010, at 11:15 AM, Galactic Stone Ironworks wrote: Hi Darryl, Great idea. Here are a few that readily come to mind - you probably already have these on the list. Some of these are not really meteorite-related per-se, but fit loosely in the group perhaps. Armageddon (movie) Deep Impact (movie) Lucifer's Hammer (book) Meteor Man (movie) Shoemaker Levy-9 event (brought comets and NEO's to the mass media, tons of documentaries) Meteorite Men Meteorites! (1998 made for TV movie) Meteor (movie) 2012 (the nonsense and the movie) Stewie's head is compared to a meteorite by Brian in song (a Family Guy episode) There are meteorite shoes and cosmetics all over eBay - FWIW. Best regards, MikeG On 3/12/10, Darryl Pitt wrote: Hi Everyone, I'm attempting to create a comprehensive list of pop cultural references in recent years in which meteorites appear in a supporting or lead role. I'm primarily looking at works of fiction but scientific references of the pop cultural ilk will be similarly welcome. Looking for films, TV, books, etc. Any input would be much appreciated. Thanks so much, and wishing you a good weekend, Darryl __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list -- Mike Gilmer - Galactic Stone Ironworks Meteorites http://www.galactic-stone.com http://www.facebook.com/galacticstone __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list _ Hotmail: Trusted email with Microsoft’s powerful SPAM protection. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/210850552/direct/01/ __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
