Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Fall Over Eastern Turkish Village: Poor Villagers Make Hundreds Of Thousands Of Dollars After Black Stones From Space Rain Down

[Michael Farmer via Meteorite-list]

Steve is not "reselling". You are taking advantage of a mentally-challenged 
person who loves to throw his money in the trash. He bought a piece from me and 
promptly sold it for 1/3 what he paid before he even received it. You know what 
he does, why he does it no one knows. You should be ashamed to even participate 
in that nonsense. I am ashamed I sold to him. It won't happen again. I guess 
too much time had passed and I had forgotten what was likely to happen. 
Michael

Sent from my iPad

> On Nov 16, 2015, at 3:44 AM, Bigjohn Shea via Meteorite-list 
>  wrote:
> 
> I was not going to mention my deal with Steve in this discussion, Michael, 
> because I did not want people to think they could already find it cheaper 
> from others who are reselling for their own reasons.  I did not want to 
> undermine your investment by stating that, but now the cat is out of the bag, 
> and that is your doing.
> 
> Yes, in case anyone is wondering, you can already find a good deal on Bingol 
> by having a little patience, and buying a piece from someone reselling.  Like 
> I said before, I am always looking for the deals.  Otherwise how do you 
> afford meteorites on a Medical Student's income...?
> 
> All this discussion about prices does not change the current prices, it only 
> changes the attitude toward these prices in the future.  That's what is 
> important in my mind.
> 
> John
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Sent using the mail.com mail app
> 
>> On 11/15/15 at 11:58 PM, Michael Farmer wrote:
>> 
>> You didn't buy that Chelyabinsk from me, I never sold for that price. And 
>> I'm sorry, but a 10,000 ton impactor flooded the market with more material 
>> than the market could consume. Classic supply and demand. Don't worry about 
>> it. Since you were able to take advantage of Steve's imbecile behavior of 
>> selling Bingol at 1/3 of what he paid me, or not, don't know if he cancelled 
>> that deal, if so you got a good price. If not, then go buy NWA chondrites, 
>> they're nice and cheap. 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPad
>> 
>> 
>> 
 On Nov 15, 2015, at 8:34 PM, Bigjohn Shea via Meteorite-list 
  wrote:
>>> 
>> 
>>> Chelyabinsk was an extraordinary event too.  I spent 50$/g on my first 
>>> specimens of it and now they sell for 5$/g from IMCA sellers on the good 
>>> old fashioned irrelevent Ebay. ;-)
>> 
>> 
>>> Extraordinary event or no, that doesn't mean a piece of Bingol sold for 
>>> 150$/g today won't show up on Ebay a year from now for less than half that 
>>> price.
>> 
>> 
>>> G'night all.  Have fun collecting. :-)
>> 
>> 
>>> John
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> Sent using the mail.com mail app
>> 
>> 
 On 11/15/15 at 11:08 PM, Michael Farmer via Meteorite-list wrote:
>> 
>> 
 I'm simply shocked at the seeming lack of knowledge I'm seeing lately. 
 Between the people who still think eBay is relevant to the fact that a 
 Howardite fall seems blasé compared to incredible Morasko. I am 
 flabbergasted that the new collectors/dealers see clueless as to exactly 
 what an extraordinary even this was.  I didn't just go to a damned war 
 zone lightly. But it's a chance of a lifetime so I took the risks. Not 
 alone I might add. But hey, don't worry, some campitos are up for grabs 
 tonight on eBay:)
>> 
 Sorry guys, not at all impugning small collectors. I spent the time to 
 package and ship $20 orders from Europe! In one box a $20 piece, the next 
 box a $20,000 piece. Sounds to me like I take care of my customers, down 
 to the smallest order.
>> 
>> 
 Michael Farmer
>> 
>> 
 Sent from my iPad
>> 
>> 
> On Nov 15, 2015, at 7:24 PM, Gmail  wrote:
>> 
>> 
> Michael,
>> 
>> 
> Seriously! John is a collector and enthusiastic about meteorites. Maybe 
> you have bought and sold $150k of Bingol, but that doesn't give you the 
> right to insult people. Why not keep your personal business dealings to 
> yourself? You work hard for your living, you may even be the top grossing 
> dealer on this planet, but no need to tell everyone. You have a great 
> reputation until you say things like this. There is room for all kinds of 
> collectors and, dare I say, even dealers. I personally felt John's 
> comments engendered some great discussions and provided unique insights 
> likely shared by others. Clearly, based on my own response, I did not 
> agree with John, but I never felt the need to insult him.
>> 
>> 
> Oh well, to each his own.
>> 
>> 
> Mendy Ouzillou
>> 
>> 
> On Nov 15, 2015, at 8:44 PM, Michael Farmer via Meteorite-list 
>  wrote:
>> 
>> 
> Who is this? A new dealer?
>> 
> Comparing a howardite fall to Morasko? A frigging rotten old iron that 
> can be found by the ton? Identical to campo? Please, these people need to 
> go find a meteorite Walmart. 

Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Fall Over Eastern Turkish Village: Poor Villagers Make Hundreds Of Thousands Of Dollars After Black Stones From Space Rain Down

[Bigjohn Shea via Meteorite-list]

I was not going to mention my deal with Steve in this discussion, Michael, 
because I did not want people to think they could already find it cheaper from 
others who are reselling for their own reasons.  I did not want to undermine 
your investment by stating that, but now the cat is out of the bag, and that is 
your doing.

Yes, in case anyone is wondering, you can already find a good deal on Bingol by 
having a little patience, and buying a piece from someone reselling.  Like I 
said before, I am always looking for the deals.  Otherwise how do you afford 
meteorites on a Medical Student's income...?

All this discussion about prices does not change the current prices, it only 
changes the attitude toward these prices in the future.  That's what is 
important in my mind.

John





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On 11/15/15 at 11:58 PM, Michael Farmer wrote:

> You didn't buy that Chelyabinsk from me, I never sold for that price. And I'm 
> sorry, but a 10,000 ton impactor flooded the market with more material than 
> the market could consume. Classic supply and demand. Don't worry about it. 
> Since you were able to take advantage of Steve's imbecile behavior of selling 
> Bingol at 1/3 of what he paid me, or not, don't know if he cancelled that 
> deal, if so you got a good price. If not, then go buy NWA chondrites, they're 
> nice and cheap. 
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
> 
> 
> > On Nov 15, 2015, at 8:34 PM, Bigjohn Shea via Meteorite-list 
> >  wrote:
> 
> > 
> 
> > Chelyabinsk was an extraordinary event too.  I spent 50$/g on my first 
> > specimens of it and now they sell for 5$/g from IMCA sellers on the good 
> > old fashioned irrelevent Ebay. ;-)
> 
> > 
> 
> > Extraordinary event or no, that doesn't mean a piece of Bingol sold for 
> > 150$/g today won't show up on Ebay a year from now for less than half that 
> > price.
> 
> > 
> 
> > G'night all.  Have fun collecting. :-)
> 
> > 
> 
> > John
> 
> > 
> 
> > 
> 
> > 
> 
> > 
> 
> > Sent using the mail.com mail app
> 
> > 
> 
> >> On 11/15/15 at 11:08 PM, Michael Farmer via Meteorite-list wrote:
> 
> >> 
> 
> >> I'm simply shocked at the seeming lack of knowledge I'm seeing lately. 
> >> Between the people who still think eBay is relevant to the fact that a 
> >> Howardite fall seems blasé compared to incredible Morasko. I am 
> >> flabbergasted that the new collectors/dealers see clueless as to exactly 
> >> what an extraordinary even this was.  I didn't just go to a damned war 
> >> zone lightly. But it's a chance of a lifetime so I took the risks. Not 
> >> alone I might add. But hey, don't worry, some campitos are up for grabs 
> >> tonight on eBay:) 
> 
> >> Sorry guys, not at all impugning small collectors. I spent the time to 
> >> package and ship $20 orders from Europe! In one box a $20 piece, the next 
> >> box a $20,000 piece. Sounds to me like I take care of my customers, down 
> >> to the smallest order. 
> 
> >> 
> 
> >> Michael Farmer 
> 
> >> 
> 
> >> Sent from my iPad
> 
> >> 
> 
> >>> On Nov 15, 2015, at 7:24 PM, Gmail  wrote:
> 
> >>> 
> 
> >>> Michael,
> 
> >>> 
> 
> >>> Seriously! John is a collector and enthusiastic about meteorites. Maybe 
> >>> you have bought and sold $150k of Bingol, but that doesn't give you the 
> >>> right to insult people. Why not keep your personal business dealings to 
> >>> yourself? You work hard for your living, you may even be the top grossing 
> >>> dealer on this planet, but no need to tell everyone. You have a great 
> >>> reputation until you say things like this. There is room for all kinds of 
> >>> collectors and, dare I say, even dealers. I personally felt John's 
> >>> comments engendered some great discussions and provided unique insights 
> >>> likely shared by others. Clearly, based on my own response, I did not 
> >>> agree with John, but I never felt the need to insult him.
> 
> >>> 
> 
> >>> Oh well, to each his own.
> 
> >>> 
> 
> >>> Mendy Ouzillou
> 
> >>> 
> 
> >>> On Nov 15, 2015, at 8:44 PM, Michael Farmer via Meteorite-list 
> >>>  wrote:
> 
> >>> 
> 
> >>> Who is this? A new dealer?
> 
> >>> Comparing a howardite fall to Morasko? A frigging rotten old iron that 
> >>> can be found by the ton? Identical to campo? Please, these people need to 
> >>> go find a meteorite Walmart. Leave the actual good stuff to the 
> >>> professionals? 
> 
> >>> I've already bought and sold more than $150,000 in Bingöl. And eBay is 
> >>> not the place it sells.
> 
> >>> Good luck guys. Bottom feeders.
> 
> >>> 
> 
> >>> 
> 
> >>> Michael Farmer
> 
> >>> 
> 
>  On Nov 15, 2015, at 2:50 PM, Ruben Garcia via Meteorite-list 
>   wrote:
> 
>  
> 
>  Hi John,
> 
>  
> 
>  I completely understand what you mean, as I have made a great living
> 
>  selling meteorites of all types over the last 18 years.
> 
>  
> 
>  However, 

Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Fall Over Eastern Turkish Village: Poor Villagers Make Hundreds Of Thousands Of Dollars After Black Stones From Space Rain Down

[Gmail via Meteorite-list]

John,

There is a great deal of Morasko and there will, in the end, be not that much 
Bingol. The fact that there are many crusted individuals is a boon for 
collectors of most any budget. It may seem like a lot now because the market is 
"flooded" but that won't be the case in 6 months for sure and more like 2 
months more likely. 

In the end, it's all about personal taste and priorities. There is no right or 
wrong answer.

Best,

Mendy Ouzillou

On Nov 15, 2015, at 4:43 PM, Bigjohn Shea via Meteorite-list 
 wrote:

Ruben,
For 450$ you can get a 3g piece of Bingol (that you need a loop to really 
enjoy) or you can get a 177g etched slice of Morasko that looks phenomenal in 
your collection.

Added to this, that Bingol piece really isn't any harder to find for the buyer 
than Morasko, and in the long run will probably be worth 50-75% of what you pay 
now.

Howardite fall or not, the price is more than I'm willing to pay.
My opinion atleast.
Cheers,
John



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> On 11/15/15 at 5:32 PM, Ruben Garcia via Meteorite-list wrote:
> 
> Hi John,
> 
> It's a howarite fall.
> 
> In my opinion it's probably about once in 20-30 year type thing.
> Expensive? Yes, but I think not over priced  - at least not for what
> it is.
> 
> Other achondrite falls like Passamonte  - $1000 per gram
> 
> On Sun, Nov 15, 2015 at 3:12 PM, Bigjohn Shea via Meteorite-list
>  wrote:
>> I may be crucified for saying this, but it's a little bit ridiculous...
>> So many specimens and demanding so high a price...  Just feels ridiculous.
>> Anyhow...  Enjoy the specimens!
>> John A. Shea
>> IMCA 3295
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Sent using the mail.com mail app
>> 
>>> On 11/15/15 at 5:08 PM, Shawn Alan via Meteorite-list wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello Listers
>>> 
>>> Looks like there is a lot of the material coming from that fall :)
>>> if villagers have received over $200,000.
>>> 
>>> Shawn Alan
>>> IMCA 1633
>>> ebay store http://www.ebay.com/sch/imca1633ny/m.html
>>> Website http://meteoritefalls.com
>>> 
>>> Meteorite Fall Over Eastern Turkish Village: Poor Villagers Make
>>> Hundreds Of Thousands Of Dollars After Black Stones From Space Rain Down
>>> 
>>> "When a meteor exploded over a village in eastern Turkey in September,
>>> residents were frightened by the sound and the illuminated sky. In the
>>> weeks that followed, they started picking up small bits of black rock,
>>> but considered them insignificant. Then, with the visit of an academic
>>> from a university in Istanbul, they learned the tiny stones they’d
>>> been finding scattered across their land were a financial godsend.
>>> 
>>> Last week alone, collectors from Germany and the U.S. spent some
>>> $200,000 on the meteorites, according to Mehmet Nezir Ergün, one of the
>>> villagers. “I hope everyone finds some. Poor people are always looking
>>> for pieces. They need them more than we do,” Ergün told the Doğan
>>> News Agency, according to Today's Zaman."
>>> 
>>> Source:
>>> http://www.ibtimes.com/meteorite-fall-over-eastern-turkish-village-poor-villagers-make-hundreds-thousands-2175990
>>> 
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Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Fall Over Eastern Turkish Village: Poor Villagers Make Hundreds Of Thousands Of Dollars After Black Stones From Space Rain Down

[Ruben Garcia via Meteorite-list]

Hi John,

It's a howarite fall.

In my opinion it's probably about once in 20-30 year type thing.
Expensive? Yes, but I think not over priced  - at least not for what
it is.

Other achondrite falls like Passamonte  - $1000 per gram

On Sun, Nov 15, 2015 at 3:12 PM, Bigjohn Shea via Meteorite-list
 wrote:
> I may be crucified for saying this, but it's a little bit ridiculous...
> So many specimens and demanding so high a price...  Just feels ridiculous.
> Anyhow...  Enjoy the specimens!
> John A. Shea
> IMCA 3295
>
>
>
> Sent using the mail.com mail app
>
> On 11/15/15 at 5:08 PM, Shawn Alan via Meteorite-list wrote:
>
>> Hello Listers
>>
>> Looks like there is a lot of the material coming from that fall :)
>> if villagers have received over $200,000.
>>
>> Shawn Alan
>> IMCA 1633
>> ebay store http://www.ebay.com/sch/imca1633ny/m.html
>> Website http://meteoritefalls.com
>>
>> Meteorite Fall Over Eastern Turkish Village: Poor Villagers Make
>> Hundreds Of Thousands Of Dollars After Black Stones From Space Rain Down
>>
>> "When a meteor exploded over a village in eastern Turkey in September,
>> residents were frightened by the sound and the illuminated sky. In the
>> weeks that followed, they started picking up small bits of black rock,
>> but considered them insignificant. Then, with the visit of an academic
>> from a university in Istanbul, they learned the tiny stones they’d
>> been finding scattered across their land were a financial godsend.
>>
>> Last week alone, collectors from Germany and the U.S. spent some
>> $200,000 on the meteorites, according to Mehmet Nezir Ergün, one of the
>> villagers. “I hope everyone finds some. Poor people are always looking
>> for pieces. They need them more than we do,” Ergün told the Doğan
>> News Agency, according to Today's Zaman."
>>
>> Source:
>> http://www.ibtimes.com/meteorite-fall-over-eastern-turkish-village-poor-villagers-make-hundreds-thousands-2175990
>>
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Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Fall Over Eastern Turkish Village: Poor Villagers Make Hundreds Of Thousands Of Dollars After Black Stones From Space Rain Down

[Anne Black via Meteorite-list]

Sorry Ruben,

Pasamonte is about $250/$300 a gram.
This one is terribly over-priced.
I love great historical falls, but I'll skip this one.


Anne M. Black
www.IMPACTIKA.com
impact...@aol.com


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To: Bigjohn Shea <bigjohns...@mail.com>
Cc: Shawn Alan via Meteorite-list <meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com>
Sent: Sun, Nov 15, 2015 3:32 pm
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Fall Over Eastern Turkish Village: Poor 
Villagers Make Hundreds Of Thousands Of Dollars After Black Stones From Space 
Rain Down


Hi John,

It's a howarite fall.

In my opinion it's probably about once in
20-30 year type thing.
Expensive? Yes, but I think not over priced  - at least
not for what
it is.

Other achondrite falls like Passamonte  - $1000 per
gram

On Sun, Nov 15, 2015 at 3:12 PM, Bigjohn Shea via
Meteorite-list
<meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com> wrote:
> I may be crucified
for saying this, but it's a little bit ridiculous...
> So many specimens and
demanding so high a price...  Just feels ridiculous.
> Anyhow...  Enjoy the
specimens!
> John A. Shea
> IMCA 3295
>
>
>
> Sent using the mail.com mail
app
>
> On 11/15/15 at 5:08 PM, Shawn Alan via Meteorite-list wrote:
>
>> Hello
Listers
>>
>> Looks like there is a lot of the material coming from that fall
:)
>> if villagers have received over $200,000.
>>
>> Shawn Alan
>> IMCA 1633
>>
ebay store http://www.ebay.com/sch/imca1633ny/m.html
>> Website
http://meteoritefalls.com
>>
>> Meteorite Fall Over Eastern Turkish Village:
Poor Villagers Make
>> Hundreds Of Thousands Of Dollars After Black Stones From
Space Rain Down
>>
>> "When a meteor exploded over a village in eastern Turkey
in September,
>> residents were frightened by the sound and the illuminated sky.
In the
>> weeks that followed, they started picking up small bits of black
rock,
>> but considered them insignificant. Then, with the visit of an
academic
>> from a university in Istanbul, they learned the tiny stones
they’d
>> been finding scattered across their land were a financial
godsend.
>>
>> Last week alone, collectors from Germany and the U.S. spent
some
>> $200,000 on the meteorites, according to Mehmet Nezir Ergün, one of
the
>> villagers. “I hope everyone finds some. Poor people are always looking
>>
for pieces. They need them more than we do,” Ergün told the Doğan
>> News
Agency, according to Today's Zaman."
>>
>> Source:
>>
http://www.ibtimes.com/meteorite-fall-over-eastern-turkish-village-poor-villagers-make-hundreds-thousands-2175990
>>
>>
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Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Fall Over Eastern Turkish Village: Poor Villagers Make Hundreds Of Thousands Of Dollars After Black Stones From Space Rain Down

[Raremeteorites via Meteorite-list]

Speaking of planetary, it is ridiculous to think that some dealers are 
asking more for a Howardite than a Martian fall like Zagami.  Zagami has 
less available weight and a better story and still will not fetch the higher 
prices it once did.  It is not the collectors fault that dealers pay too 
much in the field thinking that collectors have deep pockets and can make up 
the price.


In other markets, a dealer makes his money by buying well in the first 
place,


Adam





- Original Message - 
From: "Bigjohn Shea via Meteorite-list" 
<meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com>
To: "Raremeteorites via Meteorite-list" 
<meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com>; "metlist" 
<meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com>

Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2015 5:42 PM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Fall Over Eastern Turkish Village: 
Poor Villagers Make Hundreds Of Thousands Of Dollars After Black Stones From 
Space Rain Down



"I moved away from collecting new falls when I paid over $600.00 a gram 
for Claxton and could only realize less than $140.00 a gram a few years 
later when broken down into smaller pieces."


This is precisely one of the points I was making earlier.  There's no 
telling how much people will want to pay once the next fall comes around, 
or the next "rare" hot planetary is found, etc. etc.


John




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On 11/15/15 at 8:39 PM, Raremeteorites via Meteorite-list wrote:

I moved away from collecting new falls when I paid over $600.00 a gram 
for


Claxton and could only realize less than $140.00 a gram a few years later

when broken down into smaller pieces.  Peekskill can be had for a 
fraction


of the price it once sold for.   The asking is price is way too high on 
this


new Howardite when the famous Kopoeta Howardite with much more history 
and


much less total weight only fetches around $100.00 a gram at auction.



Then there are a few other issues like greedy con artists substituting 
fresh


NWA material for witnessed falls or a serious decline in collectors

disposable income since 2008 that puts downward price pressure on all

collectables.



A collectable of any sort has to be extremely desirable and very 
different


to survive as an investment in this very slowly recovering economy.



Adam





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Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Fall Over Eastern Turkish Village: Poor Villagers Make Hundreds Of Thousands Of Dollars After Black Stones From Space Rain Down

[Raremeteorites via Meteorite-list]

That last piece of Claxton I sold only went for $140.00 a gram at a heavily 
advertised, non-eBay auction according to my accurate books. Peekskill is 
not moving off of shelves all that quickly these days having seen the same 
pieces listed on the same websites for over a decade.


Like most dealers, I do not want material sitting unsold and stuck in 
inventory for decades so I am willing to sell at a lose if I paid too much 
in the first place.


Adam





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Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2015 6:01 PM
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Space Rain Down




HI,

With great respect, Adam, your references to Claxton and Peekskill do not 
comport with what I've read -- as well was what I've experienced -- and I 
don't think I'm going out on a limb here by suggesting I'm not alone here. 
All the best / Darryl



On Nov 16, 2015, at 3:39 AM, Raremeteorites via Meteorite-list 
<meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com> wrote:


I moved away from collecting new falls when I paid over $600.00 a gram for 
Claxton and could only realize less than $140.00 a gram a few years later 
when broken down into smaller pieces.  Peekskill can be had for a fraction 
of the price it once sold for.   The asking is price is way too high on 
this new Howardite when the famous Kopoeta Howardite with much more 
history and much less total weight only fetches around $100.00 a gram at 
auction.


Then there are a few other issues like greedy con artists substituting 
fresh NWA material for witnessed falls or a serious decline in collectors 
disposable income since 2008 that puts downward price pressure on all 
collectables.


A collectable of any sort has to be extremely desirable and very different 
to survive as an investment in this very slowly recovering economy.


Adam

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Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Fall Over Eastern Turkish Village: Poor Villagers Make Hundreds Of Thousands Of Dollars After Black Stones From Space Rain Down

[Darryl Pitt via Meteorite-list]

HI,

With great respect, Adam, your references to Claxton and Peekskill do not 
comport with what I've read -- as well was what I've experienced -- and I don't 
think I'm going out on a limb here by suggesting I'm not alone here.  All the 
best / Darryl


On Nov 16, 2015, at 3:39 AM, Raremeteorites via Meteorite-list 
 wrote:

> I moved away from collecting new falls when I paid over $600.00 a gram for 
> Claxton and could only realize less than $140.00 a gram a few years later 
> when broken down into smaller pieces.  Peekskill can be had for a fraction of 
> the price it once sold for.   The asking is price is way too high on this new 
> Howardite when the famous Kopoeta Howardite with much more history and much 
> less total weight only fetches around $100.00 a gram at auction.
> 
> Then there are a few other issues like greedy con artists substituting fresh 
> NWA material for witnessed falls or a serious decline in collectors 
> disposable income since 2008 that puts downward price pressure on all 
> collectables.
> 
> A collectable of any sort has to be extremely desirable and very different to 
> survive as an investment in this very slowly recovering economy.
> 
> Adam 
> 
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Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Fall Over Eastern Turkish Village: Poor Villagers Make Hundreds Of Thousands Of Dollars After Black Stones From Space Rain Down

[Peter Scherff via Meteorite-list]

Hi Adam,

I purchased Claxton shortly after it fell. I paid much less than $140 per
gram. When did you buy it? 

Thanks,

Peter

-Original Message-
From: Meteorite-list [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On
Behalf Of Raremeteorites via Meteorite-list
Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2015 9:13 PM
To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Fall Over Eastern Turkish Village:
Poor Villagers Make Hundreds Of Thousands Of Dollars After Black Stones From
Space Rain Down

That last piece of Claxton I sold only went for $140.00 a gram at a heavily
advertised, non-eBay auction according to my accurate books. Peekskill is
not moving off of shelves all that quickly these days having seen the same
pieces listed on the same websites for over a decade.

Like most dealers, I do not want material sitting unsold and stuck in
inventory for decades so I am willing to sell at a lose if I paid too much
in the first place.

Adam





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To: "Raremeteorites" <raremeteori...@centurylink.net>
Cc: <meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com>
Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2015 6:01 PM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Fall Over Eastern Turkish Village: 
Poor Villagers Make Hundreds Of Thousands Of Dollars After Black Stones From
Space Rain Down



HI,

With great respect, Adam, your references to Claxton and Peekskill do not
comport with what I've read -- as well was what I've experienced -- and I
don't think I'm going out on a limb here by suggesting I'm not alone here. 
All the best / Darryl


On Nov 16, 2015, at 3:39 AM, Raremeteorites via Meteorite-list
<meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com> wrote:

> I moved away from collecting new falls when I paid over $600.00 a gram 
> for Claxton and could only realize less than $140.00 a gram a few 
> years later when broken down into smaller pieces.  Peekskill can be had
for a fraction
> of the price it once sold for.   The asking is price is way too high on 
> this new Howardite when the famous Kopoeta Howardite with much more 
> history and much less total weight only fetches around $100.00 a gram 
> at auction.
>
> Then there are a few other issues like greedy con artists substituting 
> fresh NWA material for witnessed falls or a serious decline in 
> collectors disposable income since 2008 that puts downward price 
> pressure on all collectables.
>
> A collectable of any sort has to be extremely desirable and very 
> different to survive as an investment in this very slowly recovering
economy.
>
> Adam
>
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Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Fall Over Eastern Turkish Village: Poor Villagers Make Hundreds Of Thousands Of Dollars After Black Stones From Space Rain Down

[Michael Farmer via Meteorite-list]

Yes, I have my checkbook out and ready. 

Michael Farmer

> On Nov 15, 2015, at 3:59 PM, Ruben Garcia via Meteorite-list 
> <meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com> wrote:
> 
> Ha ha,
> 
> Anne I love you but please point me to where I can buy Passamonte for
> $250 to $300 per gram.  I will buy it right now!
> 
> A link, a name, anything would be appreciated.
> 
> On Sun, Nov 15, 2015 at 4:56 PM, Anne Black <impact...@aol.com> wrote:
>> Sorry Ruben,
>> 
>> Pasamonte is about $250/$300 a gram.
>> This one is terribly over-priced.
>> I love great historical falls, but I'll skip this one.
>> 
>> 
>> Anne M. Black
>> www.IMPACTIKA.com
>> impact...@aol.com
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Ruben Garcia via Meteorite-list <meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com>
>> To: Bigjohn Shea <bigjohns...@mail.com>
>> Cc: Shawn Alan via Meteorite-list <meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com>
>> Sent: Sun, Nov 15, 2015 3:32 pm
>> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Fall Over Eastern Turkish Village: 
>> Poor Villagers Make Hundreds Of Thousands Of Dollars After Black Stones From 
>> Space Rain Down
>> 
>> 
>> Hi John,
>> 
>> It's a howarite fall.
>> 
>> In my opinion it's probably about once in
>> 20-30 year type thing.
>> Expensive? Yes, but I think not over priced  - at least
>> not for what
>> it is.
>> 
>> Other achondrite falls like Passamonte  - $1000 per
>> gram
>> 
>> On Sun, Nov 15, 2015 at 3:12 PM, Bigjohn Shea via
>> Meteorite-list
>> <meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com> wrote:
>>> I may be crucified
>> for saying this, but it's a little bit ridiculous...
>>> So many specimens and
>> demanding so high a price...  Just feels ridiculous.
>>> Anyhow...  Enjoy the
>> specimens!
>>> John A. Shea
>>> IMCA 3295
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent using the mail.com mail
>> app
>>> 
>>>> On 11/15/15 at 5:08 PM, Shawn Alan via Meteorite-list wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hello
>> Listers
>>>> 
>>>> Looks like there is a lot of the material coming from that fall
>> :)
>>>> if villagers have received over $200,000.
>>>> 
>>>> Shawn Alan
>>>> IMCA 1633
>>>> 
>> ebay store http://www.ebay.com/sch/imca1633ny/m.html
>>>> Website
>> http://meteoritefalls.com
>>>> 
>>>> Meteorite Fall Over Eastern Turkish Village:
>> Poor Villagers Make
>>>> Hundreds Of Thousands Of Dollars After Black Stones From
>> Space Rain Down
>>>> 
>>>> "When a meteor exploded over a village in eastern Turkey
>> in September,
>>>> residents were frightened by the sound and the illuminated sky.
>> In the
>>>> weeks that followed, they started picking up small bits of black
>> rock,
>>>> but considered them insignificant. Then, with the visit of an
>> academic
>>>> from a university in Istanbul, they learned the tiny stones
>> they’d
>>>> been finding scattered across their land were a financial
>> godsend.
>>>> 
>>>> Last week alone, collectors from Germany and the U.S. spent
>> some
>>>> $200,000 on the meteorites, according to Mehmet Nezir Ergün, one of
>> the
>>>> villagers. “I hope everyone finds some. Poor people are always looking
>>>> 
>> for pieces. They need them more than we do,” Ergün told the Doğan
>>>> News
>> Agency, according to Today's Zaman."
>>>> 
>>>> Source:
>>>> 
>> http://www.ibtimes.com/meteorite-fall-over-eastern-turkish-village-poor-villagers-make-hundreds-thousands-2175990
>>>> 
>>>> 
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Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Fall Over Eastern Turkish Village: Poor Villagers Make Hundreds Of Thousands Of Dollars After Black Stones From Space Rain Down

[Ruben Garcia via Meteorite-list]

Hi all,

From what I hear it's mostly because it's very expensive - even out in
the field. I just spent 10's of thousands of dollars for a handful of
nice but very small 100 % crusted individuals.

Most are already sold, but I'll post the last few of them for sale very soon!

On Sun, Nov 15, 2015 at 3:08 PM, Shawn Alan via Meteorite-list
 wrote:
> Hello Listers
>
> Looks like there is a lot of the material coming from that fall :)
> if villagers have received over $200,000.
>
> Shawn Alan
> IMCA 1633
> ebay store http://www.ebay.com/sch/imca1633ny/m.html
> Website http://meteoritefalls.com
>
> Meteorite Fall Over Eastern Turkish Village: Poor Villagers Make
> Hundreds Of Thousands Of Dollars After Black Stones From Space Rain Down
>
> "When a meteor exploded over a village in eastern Turkey in September,
> residents were frightened by the sound and the illuminated sky. In the
> weeks that followed, they started picking up small bits of black rock,
> but considered them insignificant. Then, with the visit of an academic
> from a university in Istanbul, they learned the tiny stones they’d
> been finding scattered across their land were a financial godsend.
>
> Last week alone, collectors from Germany and the U.S. spent some
> $200,000 on the meteorites, according to Mehmet Nezir Ergün, one of the
> villagers. “I hope everyone finds some. Poor people are always looking
> for pieces. They need them more than we do,” Ergün told the Doğan
> News Agency, according to Today's Zaman."
>
> Source:
> http://www.ibtimes.com/meteorite-fall-over-eastern-turkish-village-poor-villagers-make-hundreds-thousands-2175990
>
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Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Fall Over Eastern Turkish Village: Poor Villagers Make Hundreds Of Thousands Of Dollars After Black Stones From Space Rain Down

[Bigjohn Shea via Meteorite-list]

Mendy,
Currently, if you search for "Morasko meteorite" on ebay, you get about 70 
results that are actual meteorites, not labels.  Mind you, better than 60% of 
them are listed by one seller, who could withdrawal them at any moment, and 
they are not all large attractive slices.

If you search for "Bingol Meteorite" you get 60 results, and at 120-150$/g they 
are not selling fast.  I've seen them get relisted multiple times so far.  I 
watch the items for deals all the time.

I agree that in the long run, there will likely always be Morasko on the 
market, and the Bingol numbers will likely diminish once the hype does, or the 
specimens run out.

That being said, a 177g etched Morasko slice will always look better on the 
shelf than a 3g piece of Bingol, and for that reason seems more worthy of the 
money in my mind.

I've said my piece by now.  No need to keep beating a dead horse.  :-)

Cheers,
John






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On 11/15/15 at 5:51 PM, Gmail via Meteorite-list wrote:

> John,
> 
> There is a great deal of Morasko and there will, in the end, be not that much 
> Bingol. The fact that there are many crusted individuals is a boon for 
> collectors of most any budget. It may seem like a lot now because the market 
> is "flooded" but that won't be the case in 6 months for sure and more like 2 
> months more likely. 
> 
> In the end, it's all about personal taste and priorities. There is no right 
> or wrong answer.
> 
> Best,
> 
> Mendy Ouzillou
> 
> On Nov 15, 2015, at 4:43 PM, Bigjohn Shea via Meteorite-list 
>  wrote:
> 
> Ruben,
> For 450$ you can get a 3g piece of Bingol (that you need a loop to really 
> enjoy) or you can get a 177g etched slice of Morasko that looks phenomenal in 
> your collection.
> 
> Added to this, that Bingol piece really isn't any harder to find for the 
> buyer than Morasko, and in the long run will probably be worth 50-75% of what 
> you pay now.
> 
> Howardite fall or not, the price is more than I'm willing to pay.
> My opinion atleast.
> Cheers,
> John
> 
> 
> 
> Sent using the mail.com mail app
> 
> > On 11/15/15 at 5:32 PM, Ruben Garcia via Meteorite-list wrote:
> > 
> > Hi John,
> > 
> > It's a howarite fall.
> > 
> > In my opinion it's probably about once in 20-30 year type thing.
> > Expensive? Yes, but I think not over priced  - at least not for what
> > it is.
> > 
> > Other achondrite falls like Passamonte  - $1000 per gram
> > 
> > On Sun, Nov 15, 2015 at 3:12 PM, Bigjohn Shea via Meteorite-list
> >  wrote:
> >> I may be crucified for saying this, but it's a little bit ridiculous...
> >> So many specimens and demanding so high a price...  Just feels ridiculous.
> >> Anyhow...  Enjoy the specimens!
> >> John A. Shea
> >> IMCA 3295
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> Sent using the mail.com mail app
> >> 
> >>> On 11/15/15 at 5:08 PM, Shawn Alan via Meteorite-list wrote:
> >>> 
> >>> Hello Listers
> >>> 
> >>> Looks like there is a lot of the material coming from that fall :)
> >>> if villagers have received over $200,000.
> >>> 
> >>> Shawn Alan
> >>> IMCA 1633
> >>> ebay store http://www.ebay.com/sch/imca1633ny/m.html
> >>> Website http://meteoritefalls.com
> >>> 
> >>> Meteorite Fall Over Eastern Turkish Village: Poor Villagers Make
> >>> Hundreds Of Thousands Of Dollars After Black Stones From Space Rain Down
> >>> 
> >>> "When a meteor exploded over a village in eastern Turkey in September,
> >>> residents were frightened by the sound and the illuminated sky. In the
> >>> weeks that followed, they started picking up small bits of black rock,
> >>> but considered them insignificant. Then, with the visit of an academic
> >>> from a university in Istanbul, they learned the tiny stones they’d
> >>> been finding scattered across their land were a financial godsend.
> >>> 
> >>> Last week alone, collectors from Germany and the U.S. spent some
> >>> $200,000 on the meteorites, according to Mehmet Nezir Ergün, one of the
> >>> villagers. “I hope everyone finds some. Poor people are always looking
> >>> for pieces. They need them more than we do,” Ergün told the Doğan
> >>> News Agency, according to Today's Zaman."
> >>> 
> >>> Source:
> >>> http://www.ibtimes.com/meteorite-fall-over-eastern-turkish-village-poor-villagers-make-hundreds-thousands-2175990
> >>> 
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Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Fall Over Eastern Turkish Village: Poor Villagers Make Hundreds Of Thousands Of Dollars After Black Stones From Space Rain Down

[Ruben Garcia via Meteorite-list]

Keep in mind I was referring to crusted individuals - like the Bingol
I''m selling - not crumbs.

On Sun, Nov 15, 2015 at 5:03 PM, Anne Black <impact...@aol.com> wrote:
> Sorry, I sold my last fragment, 1.1g, not all that long ago.
> I'll let you know next  time I get some.
>
>
> Anne M. Black
> www.IMPACTIKA.com
> impact...@aol.com
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Ruben Garcia <rubengarcia85...@gmail.com>
> To: Anne Black <impact...@aol.com>
> Cc: Bigjohn Shea <bigjohns...@mail.com>; Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com 
> <meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com>
> Sent: Sun, Nov 15, 2015 4:59 pm
> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Fall Over Eastern Turkish Village: 
> Poor Villagers Make Hundreds Of Thousands Of Dollars After Black Stones From 
> Space Rain Down
>
>
> Ha ha,
>
> Anne I love you but please point me to where I can buy Passamonte
> for
> $250 to $300 per gram.  I will buy it right now!
>
> A link, a name,
> anything would be appreciated.
>
> On Sun, Nov 15, 2015 at 4:56 PM, Anne Black
> <impact...@aol.com> wrote:
>> Sorry Ruben,
>>
>> Pasamonte is about $250/$300 a
> gram.
>> This one is terribly over-priced.
>> I love great historical falls, but
> I'll skip this one.
>>
>>
>> Anne M. Black
>> www.IMPACTIKA.com
>>
> impact...@aol.com
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Ruben Garcia via
> Meteorite-list <meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com>
>> To: Bigjohn Shea
> <bigjohns...@mail.com>
>> Cc: Shawn Alan via Meteorite-list
> <meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com>
>> Sent: Sun, Nov 15, 2015 3:32 pm
>>
> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Fall Over Eastern Turkish Village: 
> Poor
> Villagers Make Hundreds Of Thousands Of Dollars After Black Stones From Space
> Rain Down
>>
>>
>> Hi John,
>>
>> It's a howarite fall.
>>
>> In my opinion
> it's probably about once in
>> 20-30 year type thing.
>> Expensive? Yes, but I
> think not over priced  - at least
>> not for what
>> it is.
>>
>> Other
> achondrite falls like Passamonte  - $1000 per
>> gram
>>
>> On Sun, Nov 15, 2015
> at 3:12 PM, Bigjohn Shea via
>> Meteorite-list
>>
> <meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com> wrote:
>>> I may be crucified
>> for
> saying this, but it's a little bit ridiculous...
>>> So many specimens and
>>
> demanding so high a price...  Just feels ridiculous.
>>> Anyhow...  Enjoy the
>>
> specimens!
>>> John A. Shea
>>> IMCA 3295
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Sent using the
> mail.com mail
>> app
>>>
>>> On 11/15/15 at 5:08 PM, Shawn Alan via
> Meteorite-list wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hello
>> Listers
>>>>
>>>> Looks like there is a
> lot of the material coming from that fall
>> :)
>>>> if villagers have received
> over $200,000.
>>>>
>>>> Shawn Alan
>>>> IMCA 1633
>>>>
>> ebay store
> http://www.ebay.com/sch/imca1633ny/m.html
>>>> Website
>>
> http://meteoritefalls.com
>>>>
>>>> Meteorite Fall Over Eastern Turkish
> Village:
>> Poor Villagers Make
>>>> Hundreds Of Thousands Of Dollars After
> Black Stones From
>> Space Rain Down
>>>>
>>>> "When a meteor exploded over a
> village in eastern Turkey
>> in September,
>>>> residents were frightened by the
> sound and the illuminated sky.
>> In the
>>>> weeks that followed, they started
> picking up small bits of black
>> rock,
>>>> but considered them insignificant.
> Then, with the visit of an
>> academic
>>>> from a university in Istanbul, they
> learned the tiny stones
>> they’d
>>>> been finding scattered across their land
> were a financial
>> godsend.
>>>>
>>>> Last week alone, collectors from Germany
> and the U.S. spent
>> some
>>>> $200,000 on the meteorites, according to Mehmet
> Nezir Ergün, one of
>> the
>>>> villagers. “I hope everyone finds some. Poor
> people are always looking
>>>>
>> for pieces. They need them more than we do,”
> Ergün told the Doğan
>>>> News
>> Agency, according to Today's Zaman."
>>>>
>>>>
> Source:
>>>>
>>
> http://www.ibtimes.com/meteorite-fall-over-eastern-turkish-village-poor-villager

Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Fall Over Eastern Turkish Village: Poor Villagers Make Hundreds Of Thousands Of Dollars After Black Stones From Space Rain Down

[Anne Black via Meteorite-list]

Sorry, I sold my last fragment, 1.1g, not all that long ago.
I'll let you know next  time I get some.


Anne M. Black
www.IMPACTIKA.com
impact...@aol.com


-Original Message-
From: Ruben Garcia <rubengarcia85...@gmail.com>
To: Anne Black <impact...@aol.com>
Cc: Bigjohn Shea <bigjohns...@mail.com>; Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com 
<meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com>
Sent: Sun, Nov 15, 2015 4:59 pm
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Fall Over Eastern Turkish Village: Poor 
Villagers Make Hundreds Of Thousands Of Dollars After Black Stones From Space 
Rain Down


Ha ha,

Anne I love you but please point me to where I can buy Passamonte
for
$250 to $300 per gram.  I will buy it right now!

A link, a name,
anything would be appreciated.

On Sun, Nov 15, 2015 at 4:56 PM, Anne Black
<impact...@aol.com> wrote:
> Sorry Ruben,
>
> Pasamonte is about $250/$300 a
gram.
> This one is terribly over-priced.
> I love great historical falls, but
I'll skip this one.
>
>
> Anne M. Black
> www.IMPACTIKA.com
>
impact...@aol.com
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Ruben Garcia via
Meteorite-list <meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com>
> To: Bigjohn Shea
<bigjohns...@mail.com>
> Cc: Shawn Alan via Meteorite-list
<meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com>
> Sent: Sun, Nov 15, 2015 3:32 pm
>
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Fall Over Eastern Turkish Village: Poor
Villagers Make Hundreds Of Thousands Of Dollars After Black Stones From Space
Rain Down
>
>
> Hi John,
>
> It's a howarite fall.
>
> In my opinion
it's probably about once in
> 20-30 year type thing.
> Expensive? Yes, but I
think not over priced  - at least
> not for what
> it is.
>
> Other
achondrite falls like Passamonte  - $1000 per
> gram
>
> On Sun, Nov 15, 2015
at 3:12 PM, Bigjohn Shea via
> Meteorite-list
>
<meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com> wrote:
>> I may be crucified
> for
saying this, but it's a little bit ridiculous...
>> So many specimens and
>
demanding so high a price...  Just feels ridiculous.
>> Anyhow...  Enjoy the
>
specimens!
>> John A. Shea
>> IMCA 3295
>>
>>
>>
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>>
>> On 11/15/15 at 5:08 PM, Shawn Alan via
Meteorite-list wrote:
>>
>>> Hello
> Listers
>>>
>>> Looks like there is a
lot of the material coming from that fall
> :)
>>> if villagers have received
over $200,000.
>>>
>>> Shawn Alan
>>> IMCA 1633
>>>
> ebay store
http://www.ebay.com/sch/imca1633ny/m.html
>>> Website
>
http://meteoritefalls.com
>>>
>>> Meteorite Fall Over Eastern Turkish
Village:
> Poor Villagers Make
>>> Hundreds Of Thousands Of Dollars After
Black Stones From
> Space Rain Down
>>>
>>> "When a meteor exploded over a
village in eastern Turkey
> in September,
>>> residents were frightened by the
sound and the illuminated sky.
> In the
>>> weeks that followed, they started
picking up small bits of black
> rock,
>>> but considered them insignificant.
Then, with the visit of an
> academic
>>> from a university in Istanbul, they
learned the tiny stones
> they’d
>>> been finding scattered across their land
were a financial
> godsend.
>>>
>>> Last week alone, collectors from Germany
and the U.S. spent
> some
>>> $200,000 on the meteorites, according to Mehmet
Nezir Ergün, one of
> the
>>> villagers. “I hope everyone finds some. Poor
people are always looking
>>>
> for pieces. They need them more than we do,”
Ergün told the Doğan
>>> News
> Agency, according to Today's Zaman."
>>>
>>>
Source:
>>>
>
http://www.ibtimes.com/meteorite-fall-over-eastern-turkish-village-poor-villagers-make-hundreds-thousands-2175990
>>>
>>>
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Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Fall Over Eastern Turkish Village: Poor Villagers Make Hundreds Of Thousands Of Dollars After Black Stones From Space Rain Down

[Michael Farmer via Meteorite-list]

Who is this? A new dealer?
Comparing a howardite fall to Morasko? A frigging rotten old iron that can be 
found by the ton? Identical to campo? Please, these people need to go find a 
meteorite Walmart. Leave the actual good stuff to the professionals? 
I've already bought and sold more than $150,000 in Bingöl. And eBay is not the 
place it sells.
Good luck guys. Bottom feeders.


Michael Farmer

> On Nov 15, 2015, at 2:50 PM, Ruben Garcia via Meteorite-list 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi John,
> 
> I completely understand what you mean, as I have made a great living
> selling meteorites of all types over the last 18 years.
> 
> However, history has proven that while most meteorites do go up in
> value over time - rare witnessed falls almost always appreciate in
> value dramatically.
> 
> Which explains why so many collectors moving to collecting only falls now 
> days.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Sun, Nov 15, 2015 at 3:43 PM, Bigjohn Shea via Meteorite-list
>  wrote:
>> Ruben,
>> For 450$ you can get a 3g piece of Bingol (that you need a loop to really 
>> enjoy) or you can get a 177g etched slice of Morasko that looks phenomenal 
>> in your collection.
>> 
>> Added to this, that Bingol piece really isn't any harder to find for the 
>> buyer than Morasko, and in the long run will probably be worth 50-75% of 
>> what you pay now.
>> 
>> Howardite fall or not, the price is more than I'm willing to pay.
>> My opinion atleast.
>> Cheers,
>> John
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Sent using the mail.com mail app
>> 
>>> On 11/15/15 at 5:32 PM, Ruben Garcia via Meteorite-list wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi John,
>>> 
>>> It's a howarite fall.
>>> 
>>> In my opinion it's probably about once in 20-30 year type thing.
>>> Expensive? Yes, but I think not over priced  - at least not for what
>>> it is.
>>> 
>>> Other achondrite falls like Passamonte  - $1000 per gram
>>> 
>>> On Sun, Nov 15, 2015 at 3:12 PM, Bigjohn Shea via Meteorite-list
>>>  wrote:
 I may be crucified for saying this, but it's a little bit ridiculous...
 So many specimens and demanding so high a price...  Just feels ridiculous.
 Anyhow...  Enjoy the specimens!
 John A. Shea
 IMCA 3295
 
 
 
 Sent using the mail.com mail app
 
> On 11/15/15 at 5:08 PM, Shawn Alan via Meteorite-list wrote:
> 
> Hello Listers
> 
> Looks like there is a lot of the material coming from that fall :)
> if villagers have received over $200,000.
> 
> Shawn Alan
> IMCA 1633
> ebay store http://www.ebay.com/sch/imca1633ny/m.html
> Website http://meteoritefalls.com
> 
> Meteorite Fall Over Eastern Turkish Village: Poor Villagers Make
> Hundreds Of Thousands Of Dollars After Black Stones From Space Rain Down
> 
> "When a meteor exploded over a village in eastern Turkey in September,
> residents were frightened by the sound and the illuminated sky. In the
> weeks that followed, they started picking up small bits of black rock,
> but considered them insignificant. Then, with the visit of an academic
> from a university in Istanbul, they learned the tiny stones they’d
> been finding scattered across their land were a financial godsend.
> 
> Last week alone, collectors from Germany and the U.S. spent some
> $200,000 on the meteorites, according to Mehmet Nezir Ergün, one of the
> villagers. “I hope everyone finds some. Poor people are always looking
> for pieces. They need them more than we do,” Ergün told the Doğan
> News Agency, according to Today's Zaman."
> 
> Source:
> http://www.ibtimes.com/meteorite-fall-over-eastern-turkish-village-poor-villagers-make-hundreds-thousands-2175990
> 
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Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Fall Over Eastern Turkish Village: Poor Villagers Make Hundreds Of Thousands Of Dollars After Black Stones From Space Rain Down

[Ruben Garcia via Meteorite-list]

Hi,

Generally speaking - and with the possible exception of crazy rare
Black Beauty type material - falls hold their value, and rise in value
much better than finds. Morasko and Campo (rusting or otherwise) are
not even close.

On Sun, Nov 15, 2015 at 7:44 PM, Michael Farmer  wrote:
> Who is this? A new dealer?
> Comparing a howardite fall to Morasko? A frigging rotten old iron that can be 
> found by the ton? Identical to campo? Please, these people need to go find a 
> meteorite Walmart. Leave the actual good stuff to the professionals?
> I've already bought and sold more than $150,000 in Bingöl. And eBay is not 
> the place it sells.
> Good luck guys. Bottom feeders.
>
>
> Michael Farmer
>
>> On Nov 15, 2015, at 2:50 PM, Ruben Garcia via Meteorite-list 
>>  wrote:
>>
>> Hi John,
>>
>> I completely understand what you mean, as I have made a great living
>> selling meteorites of all types over the last 18 years.
>>
>> However, history has proven that while most meteorites do go up in
>> value over time - rare witnessed falls almost always appreciate in
>> value dramatically.
>>
>> Which explains why so many collectors moving to collecting only falls now 
>> days.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Nov 15, 2015 at 3:43 PM, Bigjohn Shea via Meteorite-list
>>  wrote:
>>> Ruben,
>>> For 450$ you can get a 3g piece of Bingol (that you need a loop to really 
>>> enjoy) or you can get a 177g etched slice of Morasko that looks phenomenal 
>>> in your collection.
>>>
>>> Added to this, that Bingol piece really isn't any harder to find for the 
>>> buyer than Morasko, and in the long run will probably be worth 50-75% of 
>>> what you pay now.
>>>
>>> Howardite fall or not, the price is more than I'm willing to pay.
>>> My opinion atleast.
>>> Cheers,
>>> John
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Sent using the mail.com mail app
>>>
 On 11/15/15 at 5:32 PM, Ruben Garcia via Meteorite-list wrote:

 Hi John,

 It's a howarite fall.

 In my opinion it's probably about once in 20-30 year type thing.
 Expensive? Yes, but I think not over priced  - at least not for what
 it is.

 Other achondrite falls like Passamonte  - $1000 per gram

 On Sun, Nov 15, 2015 at 3:12 PM, Bigjohn Shea via Meteorite-list
  wrote:
> I may be crucified for saying this, but it's a little bit ridiculous...
> So many specimens and demanding so high a price...  Just feels ridiculous.
> Anyhow...  Enjoy the specimens!
> John A. Shea
> IMCA 3295
>
>
>
> Sent using the mail.com mail app
>
>> On 11/15/15 at 5:08 PM, Shawn Alan via Meteorite-list wrote:
>>
>> Hello Listers
>>
>> Looks like there is a lot of the material coming from that fall :)
>> if villagers have received over $200,000.
>>
>> Shawn Alan
>> IMCA 1633
>> ebay store http://www.ebay.com/sch/imca1633ny/m.html
>> Website http://meteoritefalls.com
>>
>> Meteorite Fall Over Eastern Turkish Village: Poor Villagers Make
>> Hundreds Of Thousands Of Dollars After Black Stones From Space Rain Down
>>
>> "When a meteor exploded over a village in eastern Turkey in September,
>> residents were frightened by the sound and the illuminated sky. In the
>> weeks that followed, they started picking up small bits of black rock,
>> but considered them insignificant. Then, with the visit of an academic
>> from a university in Istanbul, they learned the tiny stones they’d
>> been finding scattered across their land were a financial godsend.
>>
>> Last week alone, collectors from Germany and the U.S. spent some
>> $200,000 on the meteorites, according to Mehmet Nezir Ergün, one of the
>> villagers. “I hope everyone finds some. Poor people are always looking
>> for pieces. They need them more than we do,” Ergün told the Doğan
>> News Agency, according to Today's Zaman."
>>
>> Source:
>> http://www.ibtimes.com/meteorite-fall-over-eastern-turkish-village-poor-villagers-make-hundreds-thousands-2175990
>>
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Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Fall Over Eastern Turkish Village: Poor Villagers Make Hundreds Of Thousands Of Dollars After Black Stones From Space Rain Down

[Bigjohn Shea via Meteorite-list]

Ruben,
For 450$ you can get a 3g piece of Bingol (that you need a loop to really 
enjoy) or you can get a 177g etched slice of Morasko that looks phenomenal in 
your collection.

Added to this, that Bingol piece really isn't any harder to find for the buyer 
than Morasko, and in the long run will probably be worth 50-75% of what you pay 
now.

Howardite fall or not, the price is more than I'm willing to pay.
My opinion atleast.
Cheers,
John



Sent using the mail.com mail app

On 11/15/15 at 5:32 PM, Ruben Garcia via Meteorite-list wrote:

> Hi John,
> 
> It's a howarite fall.
> 
> In my opinion it's probably about once in 20-30 year type thing.
> Expensive? Yes, but I think not over priced  - at least not for what
> it is.
> 
> Other achondrite falls like Passamonte  - $1000 per gram
> 
> On Sun, Nov 15, 2015 at 3:12 PM, Bigjohn Shea via Meteorite-list
>  wrote:
> > I may be crucified for saying this, but it's a little bit ridiculous...
> > So many specimens and demanding so high a price...  Just feels ridiculous.
> > Anyhow...  Enjoy the specimens!
> > John A. Shea
> > IMCA 3295
> >
> >
> >
> > Sent using the mail.com mail app
> >
> > On 11/15/15 at 5:08 PM, Shawn Alan via Meteorite-list wrote:
> >
> >> Hello Listers
> >>
> >> Looks like there is a lot of the material coming from that fall :)
> >> if villagers have received over $200,000.
> >>
> >> Shawn Alan
> >> IMCA 1633
> >> ebay store http://www.ebay.com/sch/imca1633ny/m.html
> >> Website http://meteoritefalls.com
> >>
> >> Meteorite Fall Over Eastern Turkish Village: Poor Villagers Make
> >> Hundreds Of Thousands Of Dollars After Black Stones From Space Rain Down
> >>
> >> "When a meteor exploded over a village in eastern Turkey in September,
> >> residents were frightened by the sound and the illuminated sky. In the
> >> weeks that followed, they started picking up small bits of black rock,
> >> but considered them insignificant. Then, with the visit of an academic
> >> from a university in Istanbul, they learned the tiny stones they’d
> >> been finding scattered across their land were a financial godsend.
> >>
> >> Last week alone, collectors from Germany and the U.S. spent some
> >> $200,000 on the meteorites, according to Mehmet Nezir Ergün, one of the
> >> villagers. “I hope everyone finds some. Poor people are always looking
> >> for pieces. They need them more than we do,” Ergün told the Doğan
> >> News Agency, according to Today's Zaman."
> >>
> >> Source:
> >> http://www.ibtimes.com/meteorite-fall-over-eastern-turkish-village-poor-villagers-make-hundreds-thousands-2175990
> >>
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Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Fall Over Eastern Turkish Village: Poor Villagers Make Hundreds Of Thousands Of Dollars After Black Stones From Space Rain Down

[Shawn Alan via Meteorite-list]

Hello Ruben and John

I think with any fall it will be over priced but in a few months the
value should fall. To be honest there isn't any thing special with the
actual fall. The only thing that might cause this to go up in price is
some scientist coins up a new chemical in this type of meteorite.
Howardites are lead to be from from Vest. Not including HED/ Vesta
meteorite there are over 942 meteorites from there. How many more do
collecters need to collect from one body. Like for me, all I need is one
lunar meteorite and only one or 2 meteorites from Mars. At any rate, it
will be exciting to see the write up and anything else becomes of this
fall.

SA  

Shawn Alan
IMCA 1633 
ebay store http://www.ebay.com/sch/imca1633ny/m.html
Website http://meteoritefalls.com 

>  Original Message 
> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Fall Over Eastern Turkish
> Village: Poor Villagers Make Hundreds Of Thousands Of Dollars After
> Black Stones From Space Rain Down
> From: Ruben Garcia <rubengarcia85...@gmail.com>
> Date: Sun, November 15, 2015 5:25 pm
> To: Shawn Alan <shawna...@meteoritefalls.com>
> Cc: Meteorite Central <meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com>
> 
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> From what I hear it's mostly because it's very expensive - even out in
> the field. I just spent 10's of thousands of dollars for a handful of
> nice but very small 100 % crusted individuals.
> 
> Most are already sold, but I'll post the last few of them for sale very soon!
> 
> On Sun, Nov 15, 2015 at 3:08 PM, Shawn Alan via Meteorite-list
> <meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com> wrote:
> > Hello Listers
> >
> > Looks like there is a lot of the material coming from that fall :)
> > if villagers have received over $200,000.
> >
> > Shawn Alan
> > IMCA 1633
> > ebay store http://www.ebay.com/sch/imca1633ny/m.html
> > Website http://meteoritefalls.com
> >
> > Meteorite Fall Over Eastern Turkish Village: Poor Villagers Make
> > Hundreds Of Thousands Of Dollars After Black Stones From Space Rain Down
> >
> > "When a meteor exploded over a village in eastern Turkey in September,
> > residents were frightened by the sound and the illuminated sky. In the
> > weeks that followed, they started picking up small bits of black rock,
> > but considered them insignificant. Then, with the visit of an academic
> > from a university in Istanbul, they learned the tiny stones they’d
> > been finding scattered across their land were a financial godsend.
> >
> > Last week alone, collectors from Germany and the U.S. spent some
> > $200,000 on the meteorites, according to Mehmet Nezir Ergün, one of the
> > villagers. “I hope everyone finds some. Poor people are always looking
> > for pieces. They need them more than we do,” Ergün told the Doğan
> > News Agency, according to Today's Zaman."
> >
> > Source:
> > http://www.ibtimes.com/meteorite-fall-over-eastern-turkish-village-poor-villagers-make-hundreds-thousands-2175990
> >
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Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Fall Over Eastern Turkish Village: Poor Villagers Make Hundreds Of Thousands Of Dollars After Black Stones From Space Rain Down

[Bigjohn Shea via Meteorite-list]

"I moved away from collecting new falls when I paid over $600.00 a gram for 
Claxton and could only realize less than $140.00 a gram a few years later when 
broken down into smaller pieces."

This is precisely one of the points I was making earlier.  There's no telling 
how much people will want to pay once the next fall comes around, or the next 
"rare" hot planetary is found, etc. etc.

John




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On 11/15/15 at 8:39 PM, Raremeteorites via Meteorite-list wrote:

> I moved away from collecting new falls when I paid over $600.00 a gram for 
> 
> Claxton and could only realize less than $140.00 a gram a few years later 
> 
> when broken down into smaller pieces.  Peekskill can be had for a fraction 
> 
> of the price it once sold for.   The asking is price is way too high on this 
> 
> new Howardite when the famous Kopoeta Howardite with much more history and 
> 
> much less total weight only fetches around $100.00 a gram at auction.
> 
> 
> 
> Then there are a few other issues like greedy con artists substituting fresh 
> 
> NWA material for witnessed falls or a serious decline in collectors 
> 
> disposable income since 2008 that puts downward price pressure on all 
> 
> collectables.
> 
> 
> 
> A collectable of any sort has to be extremely desirable and very different 
> 
> to survive as an investment in this very slowly recovering economy.
> 
> 
> 
> Adam 
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Fall Over Eastern Turkish Village: Poor Villagers Make Hundreds Of Thousands Of Dollars After Black Stones From Space Rain Down

[Michael Farmer via Meteorite-list]

Wow. 

Michael Farmer

> On Nov 15, 2015, at 3:08 PM, Shawn Alan via Meteorite-list 
> <meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com> wrote:
> 
> Hello Ruben and John
> 
> I think with any fall it will be over priced but in a few months the
> value should fall. To be honest there isn't any thing special with the
> actual fall. The only thing that might cause this to go up in price is
> some scientist coins up a new chemical in this type of meteorite.
> Howardites are lead to be from from Vest. Not including HED/ Vesta
> meteorite there are over 942 meteorites from there. How many more do
> collecters need to collect from one body. Like for me, all I need is one
> lunar meteorite and only one or 2 meteorites from Mars. At any rate, it
> will be exciting to see the write up and anything else becomes of this
> fall.
> 
> SA  
> 
> Shawn Alan
> IMCA 1633 
> ebay store http://www.ebay.com/sch/imca1633ny/m.html
> Website http://meteoritefalls.com 
> 
>> ---- Original Message ----
>> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Fall Over Eastern Turkish
>> Village: Poor Villagers Make Hundreds Of Thousands Of Dollars After
>> Black Stones From Space Rain Down
>> From: Ruben Garcia <rubengarcia85...@gmail.com>
>> Date: Sun, November 15, 2015 5:25 pm
>> To: Shawn Alan <shawna...@meteoritefalls.com>
>> Cc: Meteorite Central <meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com>
>> 
>> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> From what I hear it's mostly because it's very expensive - even out in
>> the field. I just spent 10's of thousands of dollars for a handful of
>> nice but very small 100 % crusted individuals.
>> 
>> Most are already sold, but I'll post the last few of them for sale very soon!
>> 
>> On Sun, Nov 15, 2015 at 3:08 PM, Shawn Alan via Meteorite-list
>> <meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com> wrote:
>>> Hello Listers
>>> 
>>> Looks like there is a lot of the material coming from that fall :)
>>> if villagers have received over $200,000.
>>> 
>>> Shawn Alan
>>> IMCA 1633
>>> ebay store http://www.ebay.com/sch/imca1633ny/m.html
>>> Website http://meteoritefalls.com
>>> 
>>> Meteorite Fall Over Eastern Turkish Village: Poor Villagers Make
>>> Hundreds Of Thousands Of Dollars After Black Stones From Space Rain Down
>>> 
>>> "When a meteor exploded over a village in eastern Turkey in September,
>>> residents were frightened by the sound and the illuminated sky. In the
>>> weeks that followed, they started picking up small bits of black rock,
>>> but considered them insignificant. Then, with the visit of an academic
>>> from a university in Istanbul, they learned the tiny stones they’d
>>> been finding scattered across their land were a financial godsend.
>>> 
>>> Last week alone, collectors from Germany and the U.S. spent some
>>> $200,000 on the meteorites, according to Mehmet Nezir Ergün, one of the
>>> villagers. “I hope everyone finds some. Poor people are always looking
>>> for pieces. They need them more than we do,” Ergün told the Doğan
>>> News Agency, according to Today's Zaman."
>>> 
>>> Source:
>>> http://www.ibtimes.com/meteorite-fall-over-eastern-turkish-village-poor-villagers-make-hundreds-thousands-2175990
>>> 
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Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Fall Over Eastern Turkish Village: Poor Villagers Make Hundreds Of Thousands Of Dollars After Black Stones From Space Rain Down

[Michael Farmer via Meteorite-list]

Show me. I'm a buyer. Sell me all you have. 

Michael Farmer

> On Nov 15, 2015, at 3:56 PM, Anne Black via Meteorite-list 
> <meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com> wrote:
> 
> Sorry Ruben,
> 
> Pasamonte is about $250/$300 a gram.
> This one is terribly over-priced.
> I love great historical falls, but I'll skip this one.
> 
> 
> Anne M. Black
> www.IMPACTIKA.com
> impact...@aol.com
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Ruben Garcia via Meteorite-list <meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com>
> To: Bigjohn Shea <bigjohns...@mail.com>
> Cc: Shawn Alan via Meteorite-list <meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com>
> Sent: Sun, Nov 15, 2015 3:32 pm
> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Fall Over Eastern Turkish Village: 
> Poor Villagers Make Hundreds Of Thousands Of Dollars After Black Stones From 
> Space Rain Down
> 
> 
> Hi John,
> 
> It's a howarite fall.
> 
> In my opinion it's probably about once in
> 20-30 year type thing.
> Expensive? Yes, but I think not over priced  - at least
> not for what
> it is.
> 
> Other achondrite falls like Passamonte  - $1000 per
> gram
> 
> On Sun, Nov 15, 2015 at 3:12 PM, Bigjohn Shea via
> Meteorite-list
> <meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com> wrote:
>> I may be crucified
> for saying this, but it's a little bit ridiculous...
>> So many specimens and
> demanding so high a price...  Just feels ridiculous.
>> Anyhow...  Enjoy the
> specimens!
>> John A. Shea
>> IMCA 3295
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Sent using the mail.com mail
> app
>> 
>>> On 11/15/15 at 5:08 PM, Shawn Alan via Meteorite-list wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello
> Listers
>>> 
>>> Looks like there is a lot of the material coming from that fall
> :)
>>> if villagers have received over $200,000.
>>> 
>>> Shawn Alan
>>> IMCA 1633
>>> 
> ebay store http://www.ebay.com/sch/imca1633ny/m.html
>>> Website
> http://meteoritefalls.com
>>> 
>>> Meteorite Fall Over Eastern Turkish Village:
> Poor Villagers Make
>>> Hundreds Of Thousands Of Dollars After Black Stones From
> Space Rain Down
>>> 
>>> "When a meteor exploded over a village in eastern Turkey
> in September,
>>> residents were frightened by the sound and the illuminated sky.
> In the
>>> weeks that followed, they started picking up small bits of black
> rock,
>>> but considered them insignificant. Then, with the visit of an
> academic
>>> from a university in Istanbul, they learned the tiny stones
> they’d
>>> been finding scattered across their land were a financial
> godsend.
>>> 
>>> Last week alone, collectors from Germany and the U.S. spent
> some
>>> $200,000 on the meteorites, according to Mehmet Nezir Ergün, one of
> the
>>> villagers. “I hope everyone finds some. Poor people are always looking
>>> 
> for pieces. They need them more than we do,” Ergün told the Doğan
>>> News
> Agency, according to Today's Zaman."
>>> 
>>> Source:
>>> 
> http://www.ibtimes.com/meteorite-fall-over-eastern-turkish-village-poor-villagers-make-hundreds-thousands-2175990
>>> 
>>> 
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Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Fall Over Eastern Turkish Village: Poor Villagers Make Hundreds Of Thousands Of Dollars After Black Stones From Space Rain Down

[Michael Farmer via Meteorite-list]

And who do you think paid them that 
money? By the way, I'm almost sold out. As usual the people who don't have it 
are poo-pooing it. Anyone who tries to act like this howardite fall is lame, 
one of a handful ever and first one ever where small perfect complete oriented 
stones are available to all. Anyone pretending this magnificent fall is 
anything less is just delusional, uneducated, or jealous.
Michael Farmer

> On Nov 15, 2015, at 2:08 PM, Shawn Alan via Meteorite-list 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hello Listers
> 
> Looks like there is a lot of the material coming from that fall :)
> if villagers have received over $200,000. 
> 
> Shawn Alan
> IMCA 1633 
> ebay store http://www.ebay.com/sch/imca1633ny/m.html
> Website http://meteoritefalls.com 
> 
> Meteorite Fall Over Eastern Turkish Village: Poor Villagers Make
> Hundreds Of Thousands Of Dollars After Black Stones From Space Rain Down
> 
> "When a meteor exploded over a village in eastern Turkey in September,
> residents were frightened by the sound and the illuminated sky. In the
> weeks that followed, they started picking up small bits of black rock,
> but considered them insignificant. Then, with the visit of an academic
> from a university in Istanbul, they learned the tiny stones they’d
> been finding scattered across their land were a financial godsend.
> 
> Last week alone, collectors from Germany and the U.S. spent some
> $200,000 on the meteorites, according to Mehmet Nezir Ergün, one of the
> villagers. “I hope everyone finds some. Poor people are always looking
> for pieces. They need them more than we do,” Ergün told the Doğan
> News Agency, according to Today's Zaman."
> 
> Source:
> http://www.ibtimes.com/meteorite-fall-over-eastern-turkish-village-poor-villagers-make-hundreds-thousands-2175990
> 
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Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Fall Over Eastern Turkish Village: Poor Villagers Make Hundreds Of Thousands Of Dollars After Black Stones From Space Rain Down

[Ruben Garcia via Meteorite-list]

Hi John,

I completely understand what you mean, as I have made a great living
selling meteorites of all types over the last 18 years.

However, history has proven that while most meteorites do go up in
value over time - rare witnessed falls almost always appreciate in
value dramatically.

Which explains why so many collectors moving to collecting only falls now days.




On Sun, Nov 15, 2015 at 3:43 PM, Bigjohn Shea via Meteorite-list
 wrote:
> Ruben,
> For 450$ you can get a 3g piece of Bingol (that you need a loop to really 
> enjoy) or you can get a 177g etched slice of Morasko that looks phenomenal in 
> your collection.
>
> Added to this, that Bingol piece really isn't any harder to find for the 
> buyer than Morasko, and in the long run will probably be worth 50-75% of what 
> you pay now.
>
> Howardite fall or not, the price is more than I'm willing to pay.
> My opinion atleast.
> Cheers,
> John
>
>
>
> Sent using the mail.com mail app
>
> On 11/15/15 at 5:32 PM, Ruben Garcia via Meteorite-list wrote:
>
>> Hi John,
>>
>> It's a howarite fall.
>>
>> In my opinion it's probably about once in 20-30 year type thing.
>> Expensive? Yes, but I think not over priced  - at least not for what
>> it is.
>>
>> Other achondrite falls like Passamonte  - $1000 per gram
>>
>> On Sun, Nov 15, 2015 at 3:12 PM, Bigjohn Shea via Meteorite-list
>>  wrote:
>> > I may be crucified for saying this, but it's a little bit ridiculous...
>> > So many specimens and demanding so high a price...  Just feels ridiculous.
>> > Anyhow...  Enjoy the specimens!
>> > John A. Shea
>> > IMCA 3295
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Sent using the mail.com mail app
>> >
>> > On 11/15/15 at 5:08 PM, Shawn Alan via Meteorite-list wrote:
>> >
>> >> Hello Listers
>> >>
>> >> Looks like there is a lot of the material coming from that fall :)
>> >> if villagers have received over $200,000.
>> >>
>> >> Shawn Alan
>> >> IMCA 1633
>> >> ebay store http://www.ebay.com/sch/imca1633ny/m.html
>> >> Website http://meteoritefalls.com
>> >>
>> >> Meteorite Fall Over Eastern Turkish Village: Poor Villagers Make
>> >> Hundreds Of Thousands Of Dollars After Black Stones From Space Rain Down
>> >>
>> >> "When a meteor exploded over a village in eastern Turkey in September,
>> >> residents were frightened by the sound and the illuminated sky. In the
>> >> weeks that followed, they started picking up small bits of black rock,
>> >> but considered them insignificant. Then, with the visit of an academic
>> >> from a university in Istanbul, they learned the tiny stones they’d
>> >> been finding scattered across their land were a financial godsend.
>> >>
>> >> Last week alone, collectors from Germany and the U.S. spent some
>> >> $200,000 on the meteorites, according to Mehmet Nezir Ergün, one of the
>> >> villagers. “I hope everyone finds some. Poor people are always looking
>> >> for pieces. They need them more than we do,” Ergün told the Doğan
>> >> News Agency, according to Today's Zaman."
>> >>
>> >> Source:
>> >> http://www.ibtimes.com/meteorite-fall-over-eastern-turkish-village-poor-villagers-make-hundreds-thousands-2175990
>> >>
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Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Fall Over Eastern Turkish Village: Poor Villagers Make Hundreds Of Thousands Of Dollars After Black Stones From Space Rain Down

[Ruben Garcia via Meteorite-list]

Ha ha,

Anne I love you but please point me to where I can buy Passamonte for
$250 to $300 per gram.  I will buy it right now!

A link, a name, anything would be appreciated.

On Sun, Nov 15, 2015 at 4:56 PM, Anne Black <impact...@aol.com> wrote:
> Sorry Ruben,
>
> Pasamonte is about $250/$300 a gram.
> This one is terribly over-priced.
> I love great historical falls, but I'll skip this one.
>
>
> Anne M. Black
> www.IMPACTIKA.com
> impact...@aol.com
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Ruben Garcia via Meteorite-list <meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com>
> To: Bigjohn Shea <bigjohns...@mail.com>
> Cc: Shawn Alan via Meteorite-list <meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com>
> Sent: Sun, Nov 15, 2015 3:32 pm
> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Fall Over Eastern Turkish Village: 
> Poor Villagers Make Hundreds Of Thousands Of Dollars After Black Stones From 
> Space Rain Down
>
>
> Hi John,
>
> It's a howarite fall.
>
> In my opinion it's probably about once in
> 20-30 year type thing.
> Expensive? Yes, but I think not over priced  - at least
> not for what
> it is.
>
> Other achondrite falls like Passamonte  - $1000 per
> gram
>
> On Sun, Nov 15, 2015 at 3:12 PM, Bigjohn Shea via
> Meteorite-list
> <meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com> wrote:
>> I may be crucified
> for saying this, but it's a little bit ridiculous...
>> So many specimens and
> demanding so high a price...  Just feels ridiculous.
>> Anyhow...  Enjoy the
> specimens!
>> John A. Shea
>> IMCA 3295
>>
>>
>>
>> Sent using the mail.com mail
> app
>>
>> On 11/15/15 at 5:08 PM, Shawn Alan via Meteorite-list wrote:
>>
>>> Hello
> Listers
>>>
>>> Looks like there is a lot of the material coming from that fall
> :)
>>> if villagers have received over $200,000.
>>>
>>> Shawn Alan
>>> IMCA 1633
>>>
> ebay store http://www.ebay.com/sch/imca1633ny/m.html
>>> Website
> http://meteoritefalls.com
>>>
>>> Meteorite Fall Over Eastern Turkish Village:
> Poor Villagers Make
>>> Hundreds Of Thousands Of Dollars After Black Stones From
> Space Rain Down
>>>
>>> "When a meteor exploded over a village in eastern Turkey
> in September,
>>> residents were frightened by the sound and the illuminated sky.
> In the
>>> weeks that followed, they started picking up small bits of black
> rock,
>>> but considered them insignificant. Then, with the visit of an
> academic
>>> from a university in Istanbul, they learned the tiny stones
> they’d
>>> been finding scattered across their land were a financial
> godsend.
>>>
>>> Last week alone, collectors from Germany and the U.S. spent
> some
>>> $200,000 on the meteorites, according to Mehmet Nezir Ergün, one of
> the
>>> villagers. “I hope everyone finds some. Poor people are always looking
>>>
> for pieces. They need them more than we do,” Ergün told the Doğan
>>> News
> Agency, according to Today's Zaman."
>>>
>>> Source:
>>>
> http://www.ibtimes.com/meteorite-fall-over-eastern-turkish-village-poor-villagers-make-hundreds-thousands-2175990
>>>
>>>
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Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Fall Over Eastern Turkish Village: Poor Villagers Make Hundreds Of Thousands Of Dollars After Black Stones From Space Rain Down

[Raremeteorites via Meteorite-list]

I moved away from collecting new falls when I paid over $600.00 a gram for 
Claxton and could only realize less than $140.00 a gram a few years later 
when broken down into smaller pieces.  Peekskill can be had for a fraction 
of the price it once sold for.   The asking is price is way too high on this 
new Howardite when the famous Kopoeta Howardite with much more history and 
much less total weight only fetches around $100.00 a gram at auction.


Then there are a few other issues like greedy con artists substituting fresh 
NWA material for witnessed falls or a serious decline in collectors 
disposable income since 2008 that puts downward price pressure on all 
collectables.


A collectable of any sort has to be extremely desirable and very different 
to survive as an investment in this very slowly recovering economy.


Adam 



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Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Fall Over Eastern Turkish Village: Poor Villagers Make Hundreds Of Thousands Of Dollars After Black Stones From Space Rain Down

[Raremeteorites via Meteorite-list]

Like a lot of collectors, I paid way too much for it several years after the 
fall when meteorite collecting was at it peek around 2003.   I learned 
shortly afterwards not to buy into the hype that centers around new falls 
like Park Forest.


Adam



- Original Message - 
From: "Peter Scherff" <peterhsche...@gmail.com>

To: "'Raremeteorites'" <raremeteori...@centurylink.net>
Cc: <meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com>
Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2015 6:17 PM
Subject: RE: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Fall Over Eastern Turkish Village: 
Poor Villagers Make Hundreds Of Thousands Of Dollars After Black Stones From 
Space Rain Down




Hi Adam,

I purchased Claxton shortly after it fell. I paid much less than $140 per
gram. When did you buy it?

Thanks,

Peter

-Original Message-
From: Meteorite-list [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] 
On

Behalf Of Raremeteorites via Meteorite-list
Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2015 9:13 PM
To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Fall Over Eastern Turkish Village:
Poor Villagers Make Hundreds Of Thousands Of Dollars After Black Stones 
From

Space Rain Down

That last piece of Claxton I sold only went for $140.00 a gram at a 
heavily

advertised, non-eBay auction according to my accurate books. Peekskill is
not moving off of shelves all that quickly these days having seen the same
pieces listed on the same websites for over a decade.

Like most dealers, I do not want material sitting unsold and stuck in
inventory for decades so I am willing to sell at a lose if I paid too much
in the first place.

Adam





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From: "Darryl Pitt" <dar...@dof3.com>
To: "Raremeteorites" <raremeteori...@centurylink.net>
Cc: <meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com>
Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2015 6:01 PM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Fall Over Eastern Turkish Village:
Poor Villagers Make Hundreds Of Thousands Of Dollars After Black Stones 
From

Space Rain Down



HI,

With great respect, Adam, your references to Claxton and Peekskill do not
comport with what I've read -- as well was what I've experienced -- and I
don't think I'm going out on a limb here by suggesting I'm not alone here.
All the best / Darryl


On Nov 16, 2015, at 3:39 AM, Raremeteorites via Meteorite-list
<meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com> wrote:


I moved away from collecting new falls when I paid over $600.00 a gram
for Claxton and could only realize less than $140.00 a gram a few
years later when broken down into smaller pieces.  Peekskill can be had

for a fraction

of the price it once sold for.   The asking is price is way too high on
this new Howardite when the famous Kopoeta Howardite with much more
history and much less total weight only fetches around $100.00 a gram
at auction.

Then there are a few other issues like greedy con artists substituting
fresh NWA material for witnessed falls or a serious decline in
collectors disposable income since 2008 that puts downward price
pressure on all collectables.

A collectable of any sort has to be extremely desirable and very
different to survive as an investment in this very slowly recovering

economy.


Adam

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Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Fall Over Eastern Turkish Village: Poor Villagers Make Hundreds Of Thousands Of Dollars After Black Stones From Space Rain Down

[Bigjohn Shea via Meteorite-list]

My, my Michael...

Bottom feeder?  Is that me?  I guess so...  Me who has collected many hundreds 
of meteorite specimens on the budget of a Medical School student.

How many collectors are out there just like me, or very similar?   Most people 
are collecting on a real budget, and happy to have a collection at all let 
alone one with a 22g piece of a Howardite that cost them $3,000.

Furthermore, how many years will it take before you call Bingol a rotten old 
Howardite that should be sold at the Walmart?

John





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On 11/15/15 at 9:44 PM, Michael Farmer wrote:

> Who is this? A new dealer?
> 
> Comparing a howardite fall to Morasko? A frigging rotten old iron that can be 
> found by the ton? Identical to campo? Please, these people need to go find a 
> meteorite Walmart. Leave the actual good stuff to the professionals? 
> 
> I've already bought and sold more than $150,000 in Bingöl. And eBay is not 
> the place it sells.
> 
> Good luck guys. Bottom feeders.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Michael Farmer
> 
> 
> 
> > On Nov 15, 2015, at 2:50 PM, Ruben Garcia via Meteorite-list 
> >  wrote:
> 
> > 
> 
> > Hi John,
> 
> > 
> 
> > I completely understand what you mean, as I have made a great living
> 
> > selling meteorites of all types over the last 18 years.
> 
> > 
> 
> > However, history has proven that while most meteorites do go up in
> 
> > value over time - rare witnessed falls almost always appreciate in
> 
> > value dramatically.
> 
> > 
> 
> > Which explains why so many collectors moving to collecting only falls now 
> > days.
> 
> > 
> 
> > 
> 
> > 
> 
> > 
> 
> > On Sun, Nov 15, 2015 at 3:43 PM, Bigjohn Shea via Meteorite-list
> 
> >  wrote:
> 
> >> Ruben,
> 
> >> For 450$ you can get a 3g piece of Bingol (that you need a loop to really 
> >> enjoy) or you can get a 177g etched slice of Morasko that looks phenomenal 
> >> in your collection.
> 
> >> 
> 
> >> Added to this, that Bingol piece really isn't any harder to find for the 
> >> buyer than Morasko, and in the long run will probably be worth 50-75% of 
> >> what you pay now.
> 
> >> 
> 
> >> Howardite fall or not, the price is more than I'm willing to pay.
> 
> >> My opinion atleast.
> 
> >> Cheers,
> 
> >> John
> 
> >> 
> 
> >> 
> 
> >> 
> 
> >> Sent using the mail.com mail app
> 
> >> 
> 
> >>> On 11/15/15 at 5:32 PM, Ruben Garcia via Meteorite-list wrote:
> 
> >>> 
> 
> >>> Hi John,
> 
> >>> 
> 
> >>> It's a howarite fall.
> 
> >>> 
> 
> >>> In my opinion it's probably about once in 20-30 year type thing.
> 
> >>> Expensive? Yes, but I think not over priced  - at least not for what
> 
> >>> it is.
> 
> >>> 
> 
> >>> Other achondrite falls like Passamonte  - $1000 per gram
> 
> >>> 
> 
> >>> On Sun, Nov 15, 2015 at 3:12 PM, Bigjohn Shea via Meteorite-list
> 
> >>>  wrote:
> 
>  I may be crucified for saying this, but it's a little bit ridiculous...
> 
>  So many specimens and demanding so high a price...  Just feels 
>  ridiculous.
> 
>  Anyhow...  Enjoy the specimens!
> 
>  John A. Shea
> 
>  IMCA 3295
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
>  Sent using the mail.com mail app
> 
>  
> 
> > On 11/15/15 at 5:08 PM, Shawn Alan via Meteorite-list wrote:
> 
> > 
> 
> > Hello Listers
> 
> > 
> 
> > Looks like there is a lot of the material coming from that fall :)
> 
> > if villagers have received over $200,000.
> 
> > 
> 
> > Shawn Alan
> 
> > IMCA 1633
> 
> > ebay store http://www.ebay.com/sch/imca1633ny/m.html
> 
> > Website http://meteoritefalls.com
> 
> > 
> 
> > Meteorite Fall Over Eastern Turkish Village: Poor Villagers Make
> 
> > Hundreds Of Thousands Of Dollars After Black Stones From Space Rain Down
> 
> > 
> 
> > "When a meteor exploded over a village in eastern Turkey in September,
> 
> > residents were frightened by the sound and the illuminated sky. In the
> 
> > weeks that followed, they started picking up small bits of black rock,
> 
> > but considered them insignificant. Then, with the visit of an academic
> 
> > from a university in Istanbul, they learned the tiny stones they’d
> 
> > been finding scattered across their land were a financial godsend.
> 
> > 
> 
> > Last week alone, collectors from Germany and the U.S. spent some
> 
> > $200,000 on the meteorites, according to Mehmet Nezir Ergün, one of the
> 
> > villagers. “I hope everyone finds some. Poor people are always looking
> 
> > for pieces. They need them more than we do,” Ergün told the Doğan
> 
> > News Agency, according to Today's Zaman."
> 
> > 
> 
> > Source:
> 
> > http://www.ibtimes.com/meteorite-fall-over-eastern-turkish-village-poor-villagers-make-hundreds-thousands-2175990
> 
> > 
> 
> > __
> 
> > 
> 
> > Visit our 

Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Fall Over Eastern Turkish Village: Poor Villagers Make Hundreds Of Thousands Of Dollars After Black Stones From Space Rain Down

[Ruben Garcia via Meteorite-list]

Collectors, like dealers are all different. Everyone has an opinion,
and a particular style of collecting, no big deal.

Like I said, I sell pretty much all types of meteorites so even though
I don't agree with Bigjohn (on this particular subject) I'm glad he's
around. Heck, I'd even sell him a Morasko slice.  : ).

On Sun, Nov 15, 2015 at 8:24 PM, Gmail  wrote:
> Michael,
>
> Seriously! John is a collector and enthusiastic about meteorites. Maybe you 
> have bought and sold $150k of Bingol, but that doesn't give you the right to 
> insult people. Why not keep your personal business dealings to yourself? You 
> work hard for your living, you may even be the top grossing dealer on this 
> planet, but no need to tell everyone. You have a great reputation until you 
> say things like this. There is room for all kinds of collectors and, dare I 
> say, even dealers. I personally felt John's comments engendered some great 
> discussions and provided unique insights likely shared by others. Clearly, 
> based on my own response, I did not agree with John, but I never felt the 
> need to insult him.
>
> Oh well, to each his own.
>
> Mendy Ouzillou
>
> On Nov 15, 2015, at 8:44 PM, Michael Farmer via Meteorite-list 
>  wrote:
>
> Who is this? A new dealer?
> Comparing a howardite fall to Morasko? A frigging rotten old iron that can be 
> found by the ton? Identical to campo? Please, these people need to go find a 
> meteorite Walmart. Leave the actual good stuff to the professionals?
> I've already bought and sold more than $150,000 in Bingöl. And eBay is not 
> the place it sells.
> Good luck guys. Bottom feeders.
>
>
> Michael Farmer
>
>> On Nov 15, 2015, at 2:50 PM, Ruben Garcia via Meteorite-list 
>>  wrote:
>>
>> Hi John,
>>
>> I completely understand what you mean, as I have made a great living
>> selling meteorites of all types over the last 18 years.
>>
>> However, history has proven that while most meteorites do go up in
>> value over time - rare witnessed falls almost always appreciate in
>> value dramatically.
>>
>> Which explains why so many collectors moving to collecting only falls now 
>> days.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Nov 15, 2015 at 3:43 PM, Bigjohn Shea via Meteorite-list
>>  wrote:
>>> Ruben,
>>> For 450$ you can get a 3g piece of Bingol (that you need a loop to really 
>>> enjoy) or you can get a 177g etched slice of Morasko that looks phenomenal 
>>> in your collection.
>>>
>>> Added to this, that Bingol piece really isn't any harder to find for the 
>>> buyer than Morasko, and in the long run will probably be worth 50-75% of 
>>> what you pay now.
>>>
>>> Howardite fall or not, the price is more than I'm willing to pay.
>>> My opinion atleast.
>>> Cheers,
>>> John
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Sent using the mail.com mail app
>>>
 On 11/15/15 at 5:32 PM, Ruben Garcia via Meteorite-list wrote:

 Hi John,

 It's a howarite fall.

 In my opinion it's probably about once in 20-30 year type thing.
 Expensive? Yes, but I think not over priced  - at least not for what
 it is.

 Other achondrite falls like Passamonte  - $1000 per gram

 On Sun, Nov 15, 2015 at 3:12 PM, Bigjohn Shea via Meteorite-list
  wrote:
> I may be crucified for saying this, but it's a little bit ridiculous...
> So many specimens and demanding so high a price...  Just feels ridiculous.
> Anyhow...  Enjoy the specimens!
> John A. Shea
> IMCA 3295
>
>
>
> Sent using the mail.com mail app
>
>> On 11/15/15 at 5:08 PM, Shawn Alan via Meteorite-list wrote:
>>
>> Hello Listers
>>
>> Looks like there is a lot of the material coming from that fall :)
>> if villagers have received over $200,000.
>>
>> Shawn Alan
>> IMCA 1633
>> ebay store http://www.ebay.com/sch/imca1633ny/m.html
>> Website http://meteoritefalls.com
>>
>> Meteorite Fall Over Eastern Turkish Village: Poor Villagers Make
>> Hundreds Of Thousands Of Dollars After Black Stones From Space Rain Down
>>
>> "When a meteor exploded over a village in eastern Turkey in September,
>> residents were frightened by the sound and the illuminated sky. In the
>> weeks that followed, they started picking up small bits of black rock,
>> but considered them insignificant. Then, with the visit of an academic
>> from a university in Istanbul, they learned the tiny stones they’d
>> been finding scattered across their land were a financial godsend.
>>
>> Last week alone, collectors from Germany and the U.S. spent some
>> $200,000 on the meteorites, according to Mehmet Nezir Ergün, one of the
>> villagers. “I hope everyone finds some. Poor people are always looking
>> for pieces. They need them more than we do,” Ergün told the Doğan
>> 

Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Fall Over Eastern Turkish Village: Poor Villagers Make Hundreds Of Thousands Of Dollars After Black Stones From Space Rain Down

[Raremeteorites via Meteorite-list]

It is a myth that witnessed falls appreciate at a greater price than finds. 
Finds reached rock bottom prices several years ago.  I know because it 
pained me to see NWA Howardites sometimes selling for just over a 
$1.00/gram.  Now these same Howardites are fetching about $5.00/gram.


Speculation comes into play on new falls since there is no price track 
record to follow.  Investment comes into play on older falls and most other 
collectables which have declined sharply according to my research.  If we 
ever see a healthy economy again, perhaps falls too will recover.


You can collect because you enjoy collecting and not worry about price.

You can speculate and hope the price will increase without any track record 
to follow which is risky if you ask me.


You can invest based on experience and current knowledge of economic 
conditions.


For me, I prefer investing, not speculating.

Adam 



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Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Fall Over Eastern Turkish Village: Poor Villagers Make Hundreds Of Thousands Of Dollars After Black Stones From Space Rain Down

[Michael Farmer via Meteorite-list]

I'm simply shocked at the seeming lack of knowledge I'm seeing lately. Between 
the people who still think eBay is relevant to the fact that a Howardite fall 
seems blasé compared to incredible Morasko. I am flabbergasted that the new 
collectors/dealers see clueless as to exactly what an extraordinary even this 
was.  I didn't just go to a damned war zone lightly. But it's a chance of a 
lifetime so I took the risks. Not alone I might add. But hey, don't worry, some 
campitos are up for grabs tonight on eBay:) 
Sorry guys, not at all impugning small collectors. I spent the time to package 
and ship $20 orders from Europe! In one box a $20 piece, the next box a $20,000 
piece. Sounds to me like I take care of my customers, down to the smallest 
order. 

Michael Farmer 

Sent from my iPad

> On Nov 15, 2015, at 7:24 PM, Gmail  wrote:
> 
> Michael,
> 
> Seriously! John is a collector and enthusiastic about meteorites. Maybe you 
> have bought and sold $150k of Bingol, but that doesn't give you the right to 
> insult people. Why not keep your personal business dealings to yourself? You 
> work hard for your living, you may even be the top grossing dealer on this 
> planet, but no need to tell everyone. You have a great reputation until you 
> say things like this. There is room for all kinds of collectors and, dare I 
> say, even dealers. I personally felt John's comments engendered some great 
> discussions and provided unique insights likely shared by others. Clearly, 
> based on my own response, I did not agree with John, but I never felt the 
> need to insult him.
> 
> Oh well, to each his own.
> 
> Mendy Ouzillou
> 
> On Nov 15, 2015, at 8:44 PM, Michael Farmer via Meteorite-list 
>  wrote:
> 
> Who is this? A new dealer?
> Comparing a howardite fall to Morasko? A frigging rotten old iron that can be 
> found by the ton? Identical to campo? Please, these people need to go find a 
> meteorite Walmart. Leave the actual good stuff to the professionals? 
> I've already bought and sold more than $150,000 in Bingöl. And eBay is not 
> the place it sells.
> Good luck guys. Bottom feeders.
> 
> 
> Michael Farmer
> 
>> On Nov 15, 2015, at 2:50 PM, Ruben Garcia via Meteorite-list 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi John,
>> 
>> I completely understand what you mean, as I have made a great living
>> selling meteorites of all types over the last 18 years.
>> 
>> However, history has proven that while most meteorites do go up in
>> value over time - rare witnessed falls almost always appreciate in
>> value dramatically.
>> 
>> Which explains why so many collectors moving to collecting only falls now 
>> days.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Sun, Nov 15, 2015 at 3:43 PM, Bigjohn Shea via Meteorite-list
>>  wrote:
>>> Ruben,
>>> For 450$ you can get a 3g piece of Bingol (that you need a loop to really 
>>> enjoy) or you can get a 177g etched slice of Morasko that looks phenomenal 
>>> in your collection.
>>> 
>>> Added to this, that Bingol piece really isn't any harder to find for the 
>>> buyer than Morasko, and in the long run will probably be worth 50-75% of 
>>> what you pay now.
>>> 
>>> Howardite fall or not, the price is more than I'm willing to pay.
>>> My opinion atleast.
>>> Cheers,
>>> John
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent using the mail.com mail app
>>> 
 On 11/15/15 at 5:32 PM, Ruben Garcia via Meteorite-list wrote:
 
 Hi John,
 
 It's a howarite fall.
 
 In my opinion it's probably about once in 20-30 year type thing.
 Expensive? Yes, but I think not over priced  - at least not for what
 it is.
 
 Other achondrite falls like Passamonte  - $1000 per gram
 
 On Sun, Nov 15, 2015 at 3:12 PM, Bigjohn Shea via Meteorite-list
  wrote:
> I may be crucified for saying this, but it's a little bit ridiculous...
> So many specimens and demanding so high a price...  Just feels ridiculous.
> Anyhow...  Enjoy the specimens!
> John A. Shea
> IMCA 3295
> 
> 
> 
> Sent using the mail.com mail app
> 
>> On 11/15/15 at 5:08 PM, Shawn Alan via Meteorite-list wrote:
>> 
>> Hello Listers
>> 
>> Looks like there is a lot of the material coming from that fall :)
>> if villagers have received over $200,000.
>> 
>> Shawn Alan
>> IMCA 1633
>> ebay store http://www.ebay.com/sch/imca1633ny/m.html
>> Website http://meteoritefalls.com
>> 
>> Meteorite Fall Over Eastern Turkish Village: Poor Villagers Make
>> Hundreds Of Thousands Of Dollars After Black Stones From Space Rain Down
>> 
>> "When a meteor exploded over a village in eastern Turkey in September,
>> residents were frightened by the sound and the illuminated sky. In the
>> weeks that followed, they started picking up small bits of black rock,
>> but considered them 

Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Fall Over Eastern Turkish Village: Poor Villagers Make Hundreds Of Thousands Of Dollars After Black Stones From Space Rain Down

[Shawn Alan via Meteorite-list]

Graham 
Trust its another HED from Vesta

Shawn Alan
IMCA 1633 
ebay store http://www.ebay.com/sch/imca1633ny/m.html
Website http://meteoritefalls.com 

>  Original Message 
> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Fall Over Eastern Turkish
> Village: Poor Villagers Make Hundreds Of Thousands Of Dollars After
> Black Stones From Space Rain Down
> From: Graham Ensor <graham.en...@gmail.com>
> Date: Sun, November 15, 2015 6:19 pm
> To: Shawn Alan <shawna...@meteoritefalls.com>
> Cc: Ruben Garcia <rubengarcia85...@gmail.com>,  Meteorite Central
> <meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com>
> 
> 
> Could get interesting if it turns out to be an anomalous and a Howardite
> not from Vesta. Anyone know if isotope work has confirmed anything yet.
> 
> Graham
> 
> On Sun, Nov 15, 2015 at 11:08 PM, Shawn Alan via Meteorite-list <
> meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com> wrote:
> 
> > Hello Ruben and John
> >
> > I think with any fall it will be over priced but in a few months the
> > value should fall. To be honest there isn't any thing special with the
> > actual fall. The only thing that might cause this to go up in price is
> > some scientist coins up a new chemical in this type of meteorite.
> > Howardites are lead to be from from Vest. Not including HED/ Vesta
> > meteorite there are over 942 meteorites from there. How many more do
> > collecters need to collect from one body. Like for me, all I need is one
> > lunar meteorite and only one or 2 meteorites from Mars. At any rate, it
> > will be exciting to see the write up and anything else becomes of this
> > fall.
> >
> > SA
> >
> > Shawn Alan
> > IMCA 1633
> > ebay store http://www.ebay.com/sch/imca1633ny/m.html
> > Website http://meteoritefalls.com
> >
> > >  Original Message 
> > > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Fall Over Eastern Turkish
> > > Village: Poor Villagers Make Hundreds Of Thousands Of Dollars After
> > > Black Stones From Space Rain Down
> > > From: Ruben Garcia <rubengarcia85...@gmail.com>
> > > Date: Sun, November 15, 2015 5:25 pm
> > > To: Shawn Alan <shawna...@meteoritefalls.com>
> > > Cc: Meteorite Central <meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com>
> > >
> > >
> > > Hi all,
> > >
> > > From what I hear it's mostly because it's very expensive - even out in
> > > the field. I just spent 10's of thousands of dollars for a handful of
> > > nice but very small 100 % crusted individuals.
> > >
> > > Most are already sold, but I'll post the last few of them for sale very
> > soon!
> > >
> > > On Sun, Nov 15, 2015 at 3:08 PM, Shawn Alan via Meteorite-list
> > > <meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com> wrote:
> > > > Hello Listers
> > > >
> > > > Looks like there is a lot of the material coming from that fall :)
> > > > if villagers have received over $200,000.
> > > >
> > > > Shawn Alan
> > > > IMCA 1633
> > > > ebay store http://www.ebay.com/sch/imca1633ny/m.html
> > > > Website http://meteoritefalls.com
> > > >
> > > > Meteorite Fall Over Eastern Turkish Village: Poor Villagers Make
> > > > Hundreds Of Thousands Of Dollars After Black Stones From Space Rain
> > Down
> > > >
> > > > "When a meteor exploded over a village in eastern Turkey in September,
> > > > residents were frightened by the sound and the illuminated sky. In the
> > > > weeks that followed, they started picking up small bits of black rock,
> > > > but considered them insignificant. Then, with the visit of an academic
> > > > from a university in Istanbul, they learned the tiny stones they’d
> > > > been finding scattered across their land were a financial godsend.
> > > >
> > > > Last week alone, collectors from Germany and the U.S. spent some
> > > > $200,000 on the meteorites, according to Mehmet Nezir Ergün, one of the
> > > > villagers. “I hope everyone finds some. Poor people are always looking
> > > > for pieces. They need them more than we do,” Ergün told the Doğan
> > > > News Agency, according to Today's Zaman."
> > > >
> > > > Source:
> > > >
> > http://www.ibtimes.com/meteorite-fall-over-eastern-turkish-village-poor-villagers-make-hundreds-thousands-2175990
> > > >
> > > > __
> > > >
> > >

Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Fall Over Eastern Turkish Village: Poor Villagers Make Hundreds Of Thousands Of Dollars After Black Stones From Space Rain Down

[Bigjohn Shea via Meteorite-list]

Chelyabinsk was an extraordinary event too.  I spent 50$/g on my first 
specimens of it and now they sell for 5$/g from IMCA sellers on the good old 
fashioned irrelevent Ebay. ;-)

Extraordinary event or no, that doesn't mean a piece of Bingol sold for 150$/g 
today won't show up on Ebay a year from now for less than half that price.

G'night all.  Have fun collecting. :-)

John




Sent using the mail.com mail app

On 11/15/15 at 11:08 PM, Michael Farmer via Meteorite-list wrote:

> I'm simply shocked at the seeming lack of knowledge I'm seeing lately. 
> Between the people who still think eBay is relevant to the fact that a 
> Howardite fall seems blasé compared to incredible Morasko. I am flabbergasted 
> that the new collectors/dealers see clueless as to exactly what an 
> extraordinary even this was.  I didn't just go to a damned war zone lightly. 
> But it's a chance of a lifetime so I took the risks. Not alone I might add. 
> But hey, don't worry, some campitos are up for grabs tonight on eBay:) 
> Sorry guys, not at all impugning small collectors. I spent the time to 
> package and ship $20 orders from Europe! In one box a $20 piece, the next box 
> a $20,000 piece. Sounds to me like I take care of my customers, down to the 
> smallest order. 
> 
> Michael Farmer 
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
> > On Nov 15, 2015, at 7:24 PM, Gmail  wrote:
> > 
> > Michael,
> > 
> > Seriously! John is a collector and enthusiastic about meteorites. Maybe you 
> > have bought and sold $150k of Bingol, but that doesn't give you the right 
> > to insult people. Why not keep your personal business dealings to yourself? 
> > You work hard for your living, you may even be the top grossing dealer on 
> > this planet, but no need to tell everyone. You have a great reputation 
> > until you say things like this. There is room for all kinds of collectors 
> > and, dare I say, even dealers. I personally felt John's comments engendered 
> > some great discussions and provided unique insights likely shared by 
> > others. Clearly, based on my own response, I did not agree with John, but I 
> > never felt the need to insult him.
> > 
> > Oh well, to each his own.
> > 
> > Mendy Ouzillou
> > 
> > On Nov 15, 2015, at 8:44 PM, Michael Farmer via Meteorite-list 
> >  wrote:
> > 
> > Who is this? A new dealer?
> > Comparing a howardite fall to Morasko? A frigging rotten old iron that can 
> > be found by the ton? Identical to campo? Please, these people need to go 
> > find a meteorite Walmart. Leave the actual good stuff to the professionals? 
> > I've already bought and sold more than $150,000 in Bingöl. And eBay is not 
> > the place it sells.
> > Good luck guys. Bottom feeders.
> > 
> > 
> > Michael Farmer
> > 
> >> On Nov 15, 2015, at 2:50 PM, Ruben Garcia via Meteorite-list 
> >>  wrote:
> >> 
> >> Hi John,
> >> 
> >> I completely understand what you mean, as I have made a great living
> >> selling meteorites of all types over the last 18 years.
> >> 
> >> However, history has proven that while most meteorites do go up in
> >> value over time - rare witnessed falls almost always appreciate in
> >> value dramatically.
> >> 
> >> Which explains why so many collectors moving to collecting only falls now 
> >> days.
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> On Sun, Nov 15, 2015 at 3:43 PM, Bigjohn Shea via Meteorite-list
> >>  wrote:
> >>> Ruben,
> >>> For 450$ you can get a 3g piece of Bingol (that you need a loop to really 
> >>> enjoy) or you can get a 177g etched slice of Morasko that looks 
> >>> phenomenal in your collection.
> >>> 
> >>> Added to this, that Bingol piece really isn't any harder to find for the 
> >>> buyer than Morasko, and in the long run will probably be worth 50-75% of 
> >>> what you pay now.
> >>> 
> >>> Howardite fall or not, the price is more than I'm willing to pay.
> >>> My opinion atleast.
> >>> Cheers,
> >>> John
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>> Sent using the mail.com mail app
> >>> 
>  On 11/15/15 at 5:32 PM, Ruben Garcia via Meteorite-list wrote:
>  
>  Hi John,
>  
>  It's a howarite fall.
>  
>  In my opinion it's probably about once in 20-30 year type thing.
>  Expensive? Yes, but I think not over priced  - at least not for what
>  it is.
>  
>  Other achondrite falls like Passamonte  - $1000 per gram
>  
>  On Sun, Nov 15, 2015 at 3:12 PM, Bigjohn Shea via Meteorite-list
>   wrote:
> > I may be crucified for saying this, but it's a little bit ridiculous...
> > So many specimens and demanding so high a price...  Just feels 
> > ridiculous.
> > Anyhow...  Enjoy the specimens!
> > John A. Shea
> > IMCA 3295
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Sent using the mail.com mail app
> > 
> >> On 11/15/15 at 5:08 PM, Shawn Alan via Meteorite-list wrote:
> >> 
> 

Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Fall Over Eastern Turkish Village: Poor Villagers Make Hundreds Of Thousands Of Dollars After Black Stones From Space Rain Down

[Michael Farmer via Meteorite-list]

You didn't buy that Chelyabinsk from me, I never sold for that price. And I'm 
sorry, but a 10,000 ton impactor flooded the market with more material than the 
market could consume. Classic supply and demand. Don't worry about it. Since 
you were able to take advantage of Steve's imbecile behavior of selling Bingol 
at 1/3 of what he paid me, or not, don't know if he cancelled that deal, if so 
you got a good price. If not, then go buy NWA chondrites, they're nice and 
cheap. 
Sent from my iPad

> On Nov 15, 2015, at 8:34 PM, Bigjohn Shea via Meteorite-list 
>  wrote:
> 
> Chelyabinsk was an extraordinary event too.  I spent 50$/g on my first 
> specimens of it and now they sell for 5$/g from IMCA sellers on the good old 
> fashioned irrelevent Ebay. ;-)
> 
> Extraordinary event or no, that doesn't mean a piece of Bingol sold for 
> 150$/g today won't show up on Ebay a year from now for less than half that 
> price.
> 
> G'night all.  Have fun collecting. :-)
> 
> John
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Sent using the mail.com mail app
> 
>> On 11/15/15 at 11:08 PM, Michael Farmer via Meteorite-list wrote:
>> 
>> I'm simply shocked at the seeming lack of knowledge I'm seeing lately. 
>> Between the people who still think eBay is relevant to the fact that a 
>> Howardite fall seems blasé compared to incredible Morasko. I am 
>> flabbergasted that the new collectors/dealers see clueless as to exactly 
>> what an extraordinary even this was.  I didn't just go to a damned war zone 
>> lightly. But it's a chance of a lifetime so I took the risks. Not alone I 
>> might add. But hey, don't worry, some campitos are up for grabs tonight on 
>> eBay:) 
>> Sorry guys, not at all impugning small collectors. I spent the time to 
>> package and ship $20 orders from Europe! In one box a $20 piece, the next 
>> box a $20,000 piece. Sounds to me like I take care of my customers, down to 
>> the smallest order. 
>> 
>> Michael Farmer 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPad
>> 
>>> On Nov 15, 2015, at 7:24 PM, Gmail  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Michael,
>>> 
>>> Seriously! John is a collector and enthusiastic about meteorites. Maybe you 
>>> have bought and sold $150k of Bingol, but that doesn't give you the right 
>>> to insult people. Why not keep your personal business dealings to yourself? 
>>> You work hard for your living, you may even be the top grossing dealer on 
>>> this planet, but no need to tell everyone. You have a great reputation 
>>> until you say things like this. There is room for all kinds of collectors 
>>> and, dare I say, even dealers. I personally felt John's comments engendered 
>>> some great discussions and provided unique insights likely shared by 
>>> others. Clearly, based on my own response, I did not agree with John, but I 
>>> never felt the need to insult him.
>>> 
>>> Oh well, to each his own.
>>> 
>>> Mendy Ouzillou
>>> 
>>> On Nov 15, 2015, at 8:44 PM, Michael Farmer via Meteorite-list 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Who is this? A new dealer?
>>> Comparing a howardite fall to Morasko? A frigging rotten old iron that can 
>>> be found by the ton? Identical to campo? Please, these people need to go 
>>> find a meteorite Walmart. Leave the actual good stuff to the professionals? 
>>> I've already bought and sold more than $150,000 in Bingöl. And eBay is not 
>>> the place it sells.
>>> Good luck guys. Bottom feeders.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Michael Farmer
>>> 
 On Nov 15, 2015, at 2:50 PM, Ruben Garcia via Meteorite-list 
  wrote:
 
 Hi John,
 
 I completely understand what you mean, as I have made a great living
 selling meteorites of all types over the last 18 years.
 
 However, history has proven that while most meteorites do go up in
 value over time - rare witnessed falls almost always appreciate in
 value dramatically.
 
 Which explains why so many collectors moving to collecting only falls now 
 days.
 
 
 
 
 On Sun, Nov 15, 2015 at 3:43 PM, Bigjohn Shea via Meteorite-list
  wrote:
> Ruben,
> For 450$ you can get a 3g piece of Bingol (that you need a loop to really 
> enjoy) or you can get a 177g etched slice of Morasko that looks 
> phenomenal in your collection.
> 
> Added to this, that Bingol piece really isn't any harder to find for the 
> buyer than Morasko, and in the long run will probably be worth 50-75% of 
> what you pay now.
> 
> Howardite fall or not, the price is more than I'm willing to pay.
> My opinion atleast.
> Cheers,
> John
> 
> 
> 
> Sent using the mail.com mail app
> 
>> On 11/15/15 at 5:32 PM, Ruben Garcia via Meteorite-list wrote:
>> 
>> Hi John,
>> 
>> It's a howarite fall.
>> 
>> In my opinion it's probably about once in 20-30 year type thing.
>> Expensive? Yes, but 

Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Fall Over Eastern Turkish Village: Poor Villagers Make Hundreds Of Thousands Of Dollars After Black Stones From Space Rain Down

[Gmail via Meteorite-list]

Michael,

Seriously! John is a collector and enthusiastic about meteorites. Maybe you 
have bought and sold $150k of Bingol, but that doesn't give you the right to 
insult people. Why not keep your personal business dealings to yourself? You 
work hard for your living, you may even be the top grossing dealer on this 
planet, but no need to tell everyone. You have a great reputation until you say 
things like this. There is room for all kinds of collectors and, dare I say, 
even dealers. I personally felt John's comments engendered some great 
discussions and provided unique insights likely shared by others. Clearly, 
based on my own response, I did not agree with John, but I never felt the need 
to insult him.

Oh well, to each his own.

Mendy Ouzillou

On Nov 15, 2015, at 8:44 PM, Michael Farmer via Meteorite-list 
 wrote:

Who is this? A new dealer?
Comparing a howardite fall to Morasko? A frigging rotten old iron that can be 
found by the ton? Identical to campo? Please, these people need to go find a 
meteorite Walmart. Leave the actual good stuff to the professionals? 
I've already bought and sold more than $150,000 in Bingöl. And eBay is not the 
place it sells.
Good luck guys. Bottom feeders.


Michael Farmer

> On Nov 15, 2015, at 2:50 PM, Ruben Garcia via Meteorite-list 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi John,
> 
> I completely understand what you mean, as I have made a great living
> selling meteorites of all types over the last 18 years.
> 
> However, history has proven that while most meteorites do go up in
> value over time - rare witnessed falls almost always appreciate in
> value dramatically.
> 
> Which explains why so many collectors moving to collecting only falls now 
> days.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Sun, Nov 15, 2015 at 3:43 PM, Bigjohn Shea via Meteorite-list
>  wrote:
>> Ruben,
>> For 450$ you can get a 3g piece of Bingol (that you need a loop to really 
>> enjoy) or you can get a 177g etched slice of Morasko that looks phenomenal 
>> in your collection.
>> 
>> Added to this, that Bingol piece really isn't any harder to find for the 
>> buyer than Morasko, and in the long run will probably be worth 50-75% of 
>> what you pay now.
>> 
>> Howardite fall or not, the price is more than I'm willing to pay.
>> My opinion atleast.
>> Cheers,
>> John
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Sent using the mail.com mail app
>> 
>>> On 11/15/15 at 5:32 PM, Ruben Garcia via Meteorite-list wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi John,
>>> 
>>> It's a howarite fall.
>>> 
>>> In my opinion it's probably about once in 20-30 year type thing.
>>> Expensive? Yes, but I think not over priced  - at least not for what
>>> it is.
>>> 
>>> Other achondrite falls like Passamonte  - $1000 per gram
>>> 
>>> On Sun, Nov 15, 2015 at 3:12 PM, Bigjohn Shea via Meteorite-list
>>>  wrote:
 I may be crucified for saying this, but it's a little bit ridiculous...
 So many specimens and demanding so high a price...  Just feels ridiculous.
 Anyhow...  Enjoy the specimens!
 John A. Shea
 IMCA 3295
 
 
 
 Sent using the mail.com mail app
 
> On 11/15/15 at 5:08 PM, Shawn Alan via Meteorite-list wrote:
> 
> Hello Listers
> 
> Looks like there is a lot of the material coming from that fall :)
> if villagers have received over $200,000.
> 
> Shawn Alan
> IMCA 1633
> ebay store http://www.ebay.com/sch/imca1633ny/m.html
> Website http://meteoritefalls.com
> 
> Meteorite Fall Over Eastern Turkish Village: Poor Villagers Make
> Hundreds Of Thousands Of Dollars After Black Stones From Space Rain Down
> 
> "When a meteor exploded over a village in eastern Turkey in September,
> residents were frightened by the sound and the illuminated sky. In the
> weeks that followed, they started picking up small bits of black rock,
> but considered them insignificant. Then, with the visit of an academic
> from a university in Istanbul, they learned the tiny stones they’d
> been finding scattered across their land were a financial godsend.
> 
> Last week alone, collectors from Germany and the U.S. spent some
> $200,000 on the meteorites, according to Mehmet Nezir Ergün, one of the
> villagers. “I hope everyone finds some. Poor people are always looking
> for pieces. They need them more than we do,” Ergün told the Doğan
> News Agency, according to Today's Zaman."
> 
> Source:
> http://www.ibtimes.com/meteorite-fall-over-eastern-turkish-village-poor-villagers-make-hundreds-thousands-2175990
> 
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