Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorites are very powerful stones!
Hi All, Unless you're from the UK, you probably haven't heard of Mitchell and Webb. They do a funny skit on homeopathic remedies (to include crystals): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HMGIbOGu8q0 Look closely for humo(u)rous signs on the walls of the hospital. And be sure to keep a supply of aquamarine quartz on hand in case you're ever in a car accident... ;-) --Rob -Original Message- From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of dean bessey Sent: Sunday, July 04, 2010 4:28 PM To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorites are very powerful stones! As somebody who has had a Rock and crystal shop for two years (before I closed it a couple months ago to move to Australia) I have had a lot of contact with New Age and Power aspects of rocks and Crystals. There are many practitioners of Crystal healing and medicinal effects of crystals in New Zealand and they all congregated to my shop because I had what was easily New Zealand largest selection of Rocks and Crystals and by far the cheapest as I was pricing my crystals based on their rock value and not overpriced with their spiritual properties intact like the new age shops do. My prices were in line with ebays lowest prices without the shipping cost. I sort of had to learn as I went as I had no interest in this topic before but had to pick up the basics so as to advice customers what they wanted. Anyway, in talking to hundreds of believers I guess you could call it I can say that not one considered their belief to have any religious aspects at all. There is a cosmic energy that flows through the universe that the scientists havent yet figured out what causes it but the new age people have figured out how to harvest it. But what these believers have done is figure out what crystals do which things. Amethyst (Up to 200 years ago the worlds most valuable gem - the favored gem by the likes of cleopatra, Queen Elizabeth and cartherine the great, the main stone in the british coronation crown and carried to battle for luck by ancient Egyptian soldiers) is the most important stone and helps cure some of your head ailments, and each part of the body has a different crystal that helps that certain thing. There are crystals that helps one contact the spritual realm or angels and stuff but it could be some christian spirit that it helps contact (Christianity certainly has a lot of these angels and stuff and I guess that the pope shouldent have a monopoly on talking to them anyway). Many crystals might be ground up into medicine (We dont consider chinese herbal cures to be part of a religion). These chinese cures may or may not work and some might be dangerous (Like the Romans belief that you could ground up Mercury solfide - Cinnabar, to help alleviate gout). The crystals are considered medicine or some way harvesting some power that science will figure out one day. It is not considered a religious experience (By most believers anyway. I believe that aspirin cured headaches. It is not a religious thought to think it does. If somebody believed that you ground up a tigers penis and ate it that it would make you satisify your wife better in bed it is not a religion (Even if it works - which most mainstream scientists say it doesnt) It is no more of a religion than when in 1900 some German scientist (I cant remember his name) said that he believed that he found some power rocks that could be harvested to make energy that could power our houses. He was loudly ridiculed at the time for the stupid thought that one could harvest energy from rocks lying around on the ground. I suppose I guess that you could say that he was a nutjob with a new religion. Today nobody considers the power of his rocks (Uranium) to have any religious aspects to it or the guy to be considered some spiritual leader. The last few months for the first time I have seen meteorites being touted as having these special properties. I suspect that meteorites will become one of the healing crystals in the next few years. Given the scarcity of meteorites and the millions of crystal believers consider what effect that might have on values. Cheers DEAN __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
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The reason they lost the patient, as I see it; No meteorites. -- Richard Kowalski Full Moon Photography IMCA #1081 --- On Tue, 7/6/10, Matson, Robert D. robert.d.mat...@saic.com wrote: From: Matson, Robert D. robert.d.mat...@saic.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorites are very powerful stones! To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Tuesday, July 6, 2010, 11:03 AM Hi All, Unless you're from the UK, you probably haven't heard of Mitchell and Webb. They do a funny skit on homeopathic remedies (to include crystals): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HMGIbOGu8q0 Look closely for humo(u)rous signs on the walls of the hospital. And be sure to keep a supply of aquamarine quartz on hand in case you're ever in a car accident... ;-) --Rob -Original Message- From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of dean bessey Sent: Sunday, July 04, 2010 4:28 PM To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorites are very powerful stones! As somebody who has had a Rock and crystal shop for two years (before I closed it a couple months ago to move to Australia) I have had a lot of contact with New Age and Power aspects of rocks and Crystals. There are many practitioners of Crystal healing and medicinal effects of crystals in New Zealand and they all congregated to my shop because I had what was easily New Zealand largest selection of Rocks and Crystals and by far the cheapest as I was pricing my crystals based on their rock value and not overpriced with their spiritual properties intact like the new age shops do. My prices were in line with ebays lowest prices without the shipping cost. I sort of had to learn as I went as I had no interest in this topic before but had to pick up the basics so as to advice customers what they wanted. Anyway, in talking to hundreds of believers I guess you could call it I can say that not one considered their belief to have any religious aspects at all. There is a cosmic energy that flows through the universe that the scientists havent yet figured out what causes it but the new age people have figured out how to harvest it. But what these believers have done is figure out what crystals do which things. Amethyst (Up to 200 years ago the worlds most valuable gem - the favored gem by the likes of cleopatra, Queen Elizabeth and cartherine the great, the main stone in the british coronation crown and carried to battle for luck by ancient Egyptian soldiers) is the most important stone and helps cure some of your head ailments, and each part of the body has a different crystal that helps that certain thing. There are crystals that helps one contact the spritual realm or angels and stuff but it could be some christian spirit that it helps contact (Christianity certainly has a lot of these angels and stuff and I guess that the pope shouldent have a monopoly on talking to them anyway). Many crystals might be ground up into medicine (We dont consider chinese herbal cures to be part of a religion). These chinese cures may or may not work and some might be dangerous (Like the Romans belief that you could ground up Mercury solfide - Cinnabar, to help alleviate gout). The crystals are considered medicine or some way harvesting some power that science will figure out one day. It is not considered a religious experience (By most believers anyway. I believe that aspirin cured headaches. It is not a religious thought to think it does. If somebody believed that you ground up a tigers penis and ate it that it would make you satisify your wife better in bed it is not a religion (Even if it works - which most mainstream scientists say it doesnt) It is no more of a religion than when in 1900 some German scientist (I cant remember his name) said that he believed that he found some power rocks that could be harvested to make energy that could power our houses. He was loudly ridiculed at the time for the stupid thought that one could harvest energy from rocks lying around on the ground. I suppose I guess that you could say that he was a nutjob with a new religion. Today nobody considers the power of his rocks (Uranium) to have any religious aspects to it or the guy to be considered some spiritual leader. The last few months for the first time I have seen meteorites being touted as having these special properties. I suspect that meteorites will become one of the healing crystals in the next few years. Given the scarcity of meteorites and the millions of crystal believers consider what effect that might have on values. Cheers DEAN __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo
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This observation strikes a note. It's obviously based on personal experience and some list-time. Whom amongst us can argue that space rocks are not extraordinarily compelling? Bill Sooo, they can work like an alias or hiperlink to whoever is able to use them as a kind of symbolic link. For those who do not have the ethical stature and the spiritual awareness, they are known to produce a terrible form of obsession for possession much like the one depicted on the ring of the Tolkien (fairy)tales. They (the meteorites) are also known to induce terrible quarels that only the most lucids and good-humoured ones are able to avoid. Needless to say that most of the dealers and collectors fall short on this point again and again. _ The New Busy is not the too busy. Combine all your e-mail accounts with Hotmail. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?tile=multiaccountocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_4 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Meteorites are very powerful stones!
...Meteorites should NOT be used in elixirs at all... http://pagan-writing.blogspot.com/2010/07/meteorites.html Regards, Eric Wichman Meteorites USA __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
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Perhaps I we start a new hobby. Meteorites are said to increase awareness, particularly telepathic and psychic awareness. If you are learning a psychic power, or trying to develop one further, meteorites are particularly in-tune with this. Greg S. Date: Fri, 2 Jul 2010 10:13:57 -0700 From: e...@meteoritesusa.com To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] Meteorites are very powerful stones! ...Meteorites should NOT be used in elixirs at all... http://pagan-writing.blogspot.com/2010/07/meteorites.html Regards, Eric Wichman Meteorites USA __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list _ The New Busy is not the too busy. Combine all your e-mail accounts with Hotmail. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?tile=multiaccountocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_4 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
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We mock what we do not understand. While I personally do not subscribe to these beliefs - many people do. I have several customers who purchase meteorites for New Age purposes - and their money is just as green as everyone elses. Please send all such customers my way where they will be greeted with a smile and an open mind. On 7/2/10, Meteorites USA e...@meteoritesusa.com wrote: ...Meteorites should NOT be used in elixirs at all... http://pagan-writing.blogspot.com/2010/07/meteorites.html Regards, Eric Wichman Meteorites USA __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list -- Mike Gilmer - Galactic Stone Ironworks Meteorites http://www.galactic-stone.com http://www.facebook.com/galacticstone __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
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Hi Mike, Attempts to be philosophical by quoting Spies Like Us is one thing. Implying we don't understand new age belief systems is quite another. Ignorance mistakes the natural for supernatural. - Me Regards, Eric On 7/2/2010 10:34 AM, Galactic Stone Ironworks wrote: We mock what we do not understand. While I personally do not subscribe to these beliefs - many people do. I have several customers who purchase meteorites for New Age purposes - and their money is just as green as everyone elses. Please send all such customers my way where they will be greeted with a smile and an open mind. On 7/2/10, Meteorites USAe...@meteoritesusa.com wrote: ...Meteorites should NOT be used in elixirs at all... http://pagan-writing.blogspot.com/2010/07/meteorites.html Regards, Eric Wichman Meteorites USA __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
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Hi List, There is an equal amount of scientific evidence to support all religious belief systems. Best regards, MikeG On 7/2/10, Meteorites USA e...@meteoritesusa.com wrote: Hi Mike, Attempts to be philosophical by quoting Spies Like Us is one thing. Implying we don't understand new age belief systems is quite another. Ignorance mistakes the natural for supernatural. - Me Regards, Eric On 7/2/2010 10:34 AM, Galactic Stone Ironworks wrote: We mock what we do not understand. While I personally do not subscribe to these beliefs - many people do. I have several customers who purchase meteorites for New Age purposes - and their money is just as green as everyone elses. Please send all such customers my way where they will be greeted with a smile and an open mind. On 7/2/10, Meteorites USAe...@meteoritesusa.com wrote: ...Meteorites should NOT be used in elixirs at all... http://pagan-writing.blogspot.com/2010/07/meteorites.html Regards, Eric Wichman Meteorites USA __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list -- Mike Gilmer - Galactic Stone Ironworks Meteorites http://www.galactic-stone.com http://www.facebook.com/galacticstone __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
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Be careful with the word 'all'. Eric On 7/2/2010 11:20 AM, Galactic Stone Ironworks wrote: Hi List, There is an equal amount of scientific evidence to support all religious belief systems. Best regards, MikeG On 7/2/10, Meteorites USAe...@meteoritesusa.com wrote: Hi Mike, Attempts to be philosophical by quoting Spies Like Us is one thing. Implying we don't understand new age belief systems is quite another. Ignorance mistakes the natural for supernatural. - Me Regards, Eric On 7/2/2010 10:34 AM, Galactic Stone Ironworks wrote: We mock what we do not understand. While I personally do not subscribe to these beliefs - many people do. I have several customers who purchase meteorites for New Age purposes - and their money is just as green as everyone elses. Please send all such customers my way where they will be greeted with a smile and an open mind. On 7/2/10, Meteorites USAe...@meteoritesusa.com wrote: ...Meteorites should NOT be used in elixirs at all... http://pagan-writing.blogspot.com/2010/07/meteorites.html Regards, Eric Wichman Meteorites USA __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
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Hi Eric and List, I am merely making a point. All religious systems are equally valid under the eyes of science. And what's with the warning? Does your particular brand of superstition somehow deserve special consideration, despite an equal lack of scientific evidence? How would you feel if I started pointing out things that I thought were silly about your religion? America is supposed to be about tolerance. That is the only point I was trying to make. I'll shut up now before I come across to mainstream religious folk the same way you came across to non-mainstream religious folk. Best regards, MikeG PS - at least New Agers have a deep respect for all things natural. You don't see crystal-rubbers out trashing our environment. On 7/2/10, Meteorites USA e...@meteoritesusa.com wrote: Be careful with the word 'all'. Eric On 7/2/2010 11:20 AM, Galactic Stone Ironworks wrote: Hi List, There is an equal amount of scientific evidence to support all religious belief systems. Best regards, MikeG On 7/2/10, Meteorites USAe...@meteoritesusa.com wrote: Hi Mike, Attempts to be philosophical by quoting Spies Like Us is one thing. Implying we don't understand new age belief systems is quite another. Ignorance mistakes the natural for supernatural. - Me Regards, Eric On 7/2/2010 10:34 AM, Galactic Stone Ironworks wrote: We mock what we do not understand. While I personally do not subscribe to these beliefs - many people do. I have several customers who purchase meteorites for New Age purposes - and their money is just as green as everyone elses. Please send all such customers my way where they will be greeted with a smile and an open mind. On 7/2/10, Meteorites USAe...@meteoritesusa.com wrote: ...Meteorites should NOT be used in elixirs at all... http://pagan-writing.blogspot.com/2010/07/meteorites.html Regards, Eric Wichman Meteorites USA __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list -- Mike Gilmer - Galactic Stone Ironworks Meteorites http://www.galactic-stone.com http://www.facebook.com/galacticstone __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
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On Fri, 2 Jul 2010 14:34:11 -0400, you wrote: America is supposed to be about tolerance. That is the only point I was trying to make. Tolerence does not mean treating nutty ideas as respectable just because someone REALLY believes it. The term for that is political correctness. As the saying goes-- You have the right to your own opinions, but you don't have the right to your own facts. http://www.goodreads.com/quotes/show/9972 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
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And if science is a religion? Ouch! -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] Im Auftrag von Galactic Stone Ironworks Gesendet: Freitag, 2. Juli 2010 20:34 An: Meteorites USA Cc: Meteorite-list Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorites are very powerful stones! Hi Eric and List, I am merely making a point. All religious systems are equally valid under the eyes of science. __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
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Hello all, Here is something along this line... at least to me any way. I had a guy contact me 2 days ago wanting to know if I had any meteorite cutting dust. He said he wanted to try growing weed in it. Anyone ever heard of this?? LOL I have some, but I don't know about using it for that. Sounds like California is going crazy. Warren Sansoucie IMCA #3174 St. Louis MO Date: Fri, 2 Jul 2010 10:13:57 -0700 From: e...@meteoritesusa.com To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] Meteorites are very powerful stones! ...Meteorites should NOT be used in elixirs at all... http://pagan-writing.blogspot.com/2010/07/meteorites.html Regards, Eric Wichman Meteorites USA __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
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I've used them in cocktails, does that count? Meteorites USA e...@meteoritesusa.com wrote: ...Meteorites should NOT be used in elixirs at all... http://pagan-writing.blogspot.com/2010/07/meteorites.html Regards, Eric Wichman Meteorites USA __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list -- Rob Wesel Sent from my mobile phone, please excuse my brevity and typos. __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
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That link also says: Meteorites can also help you get rid of bad habits or addictions. NO...they cause habits and addictions..like collecting meteorites. Many on this list have first hand knowledge!! Dave --- On Fri, 7/2/10, Meteorites USA e...@meteoritesusa.com wrote: From: Meteorites USA e...@meteoritesusa.com Subject: [meteorite-list] Meteorites are very powerful stones! To: Meteorite-list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Friday, July 2, 2010, 1:13 PM ...Meteorites should NOT be used in elixirs at all... http://pagan-writing.blogspot.com/2010/07/meteorites.html Regards, Eric Wichman Meteorites USA __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
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Hi Mike, List, I think you misunderstand my meaning of 'all'... I was certainly not referring to my particular brand of beliefs at all. ;) On the contrary, I subscribe to no specific orthodox religious, dogmatic, or doctrinal belief system. I study religions and scientific theory equally, and dismiss nothing without careful analysis, logical consideration, reason, and personal spiritual meaning. I take into account and weigh everything with regard to my own personal beliefs. I also don't preach... Much... ;) You asked How would you feel if I started pointing out things that I thought were silly about your religion? Again, read above... It makes no difference as I'm completely and 100% open minded to considering all belief systems (including yours) as possible methods of explaining anything and/or everything, just as I see science as a perfectly viable tool to explain everything. ...And what's with the warning?... No warning... I was referring to mistakenly grouping all religions neatly into a self imposed ideological neatness. Religion (not personal belief) is an historical system of accepted beliefs based in supernatural, superstitious, cultural and generational oration, myth, legend, and subjective interpretations of observations of the natural world since the beginning of humanity. There are natural and scientific reasons for everything. Religion by definition, is also an institutional invention created by subjective human interpretations of natural observations which are simply not completely explainable by science nor religion, yet. Religion itself is merely a word. Your belief is yours personally... ...Does your particular brand of superstition somehow deserve special consideration, despite an equal lack of scientific evidence?...' No... Because I have no superstitions. Maybe OCD, but not superstitions... ;) I believe that religion and science will one day realize an epiphany that both are trying to explain the same things from different intrinsic and very human perspectives. Science by evidenced observation, and religion by faith. I do not attack one nor attach to either individually, but rather weigh everything as a whole. It is, after all, only naturally open and tolerant to do so. Regards, Eric On 7/2/2010 11:34 AM, Galactic Stone Ironworks wrote: Hi Eric and List, I am merely making a point. All religious systems are equally valid under the eyes of science. And what's with the warning? Does your particular brand of superstition somehow deserve special consideration, despite an equal lack of scientific evidence? How would you feel if I started pointing out things that I thought were silly about your religion? America is supposed to be about tolerance. That is the only point I was trying to make. I'll shut up now before I come across to mainstream religious folk the same way you came across to non-mainstream religious folk. Best regards, MikeG PS - at least New Agers have a deep respect for all things natural. You don't see crystal-rubbers out trashing our environment. On 7/2/10, Meteorites USAe...@meteoritesusa.com wrote: Be careful with the word 'all'. Eric On 7/2/2010 11:20 AM, Galactic Stone Ironworks wrote: Hi List, There is an equal amount of scientific evidence to support all religious belief systems. Best regards, MikeG On 7/2/10, Meteorites USAe...@meteoritesusa.com wrote: Hi Mike, Attempts to be philosophical by quoting Spies Like Us is one thing. Implying we don't understand new age belief systems is quite another. Ignorance mistakes the natural for supernatural. - Me Regards, Eric On 7/2/2010 10:34 AM, Galactic Stone Ironworks wrote: We mock what we do not understand. While I personally do not subscribe to these beliefs - many people do. I have several customers who purchase meteorites for New Age purposes - and their money is just as green as everyone elses. Please send all such customers my way where they will be greeted with a smile and an open mind. On 7/2/10, Meteorites USAe...@meteoritesusa.comwrote: ...Meteorites should NOT be used in elixirs at all... http://pagan-writing.blogspot.com/2010/07/meteorites.html Regards, Eric Wichman Meteorites USA __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
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Eric If you point a Crystal at a Meteorite you can hear Art Bell (Somewhere in time). Test also. Wayne __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
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Hi Warren, well not weed directly, but there were some experiments with powders from rocks with similar chemical properties like meteorites and also with some pulverized meteorites, don't remember exactely, a carbonaceous one, but also a Martian (was from the DaG-shergottites?), whether seeds could germinate in these powders. With Mars it worked. So why not? Maybe you can google some papers about. Best! Martin -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] Im Auftrag von Warren Sansoucie Gesendet: Freitag, 2. Juli 2010 22:19 An: METEORITE LIST Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorites are very powerful stones! Hello all, Here is something along this line... at least to me any way. I had a guy contact me 2 days ago wanting to know if I had any meteorite cutting dust. He said he wanted to try growing weed in it. Anyone ever heard of this?? LOL I have some, but I don't know about using it for that. Sounds like California is going crazy. Warren Sansoucie IMCA #3174 St. Louis MO Date: Fri, 2 Jul 2010 10:13:57 -0700 From: e...@meteoritesusa.com To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] Meteorites are very powerful stones! ...Meteorites should NOT be used in elixirs at all... http://pagan-writing.blogspot.com/2010/07/meteorites.html Regards, Eric Wichman Meteorites USA __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorites are very powerful stones!
I remember a short story about trees grown from seeds which had been taken on expeditions to other planets. The original tree was from a seed taken to the Moon, and it had a calming effect on those nearby. The tree came down (I don't remember the circumstances) and was replaced by a seedling from a Mars expedition. Trouble is, the tree was near some type of world peace conference... Best! Tracy Latimer From: warren3...@hotmail.com To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Fri, 2 Jul 2010 15:18:58 -0500 Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorites are very powerful stones! Hello all, Here is something along this line... at least to me any way. I had a guy contact me 2 days ago wanting to know if I had any meteorite cutting dust. He said he wanted to try growing weed in it. Anyone ever heard of this?? LOL I have some, but I don't know about using it for that. Sounds like California is going crazy. Warren Sansoucie IMCA #3174 St. Louis MO Date: Fri, 2 Jul 2010 10:13:57 -0700 From: e...@meteoritesusa.com To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] Meteorites are very powerful stones! ...Meteorites should NOT be used in elixirs at all... http://pagan-writing.blogspot.com/2010/07/meteorites.html Regards, Eric Wichman Meteorites USA __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list _ The New Busy is not the old busy. Search, chat and e-mail from your inbox. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_3 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorites are very powerful stones!
Hmmmthis one is weirdo, Listoids. On my top shelf of my main display cabinet, for the last few years, I have experienced and documented incremental movement by many of my specimens relative to each other. My neighbor called me wacko, after I told him about it...how we can see the trail in the dust on the glass shelfso for days we'd measure the distance between a standing CD and an idividual 340 gram Seymchan siderite, and over 5 weeks they eventually moved 5 cms and ended up touching. (The CD moved toward the Seymchan which never moved at all.) All the while a tall standing slice of NWA3118 did a 180 and stopped in it's new place. There was also an oriented Sikhote that did a quarter turn and stopped. A Micro West, TX moved over two inches, like desert rocks on the salt flat, leaving a dust trailmeanwhile all other specimens stayed exacly in place. The dust trails were distinct! (This cabinet can't be opened without self-standing slices falling over and leaving dust evidence of disturbance, so I've ruled out a boogie-man-woman opening the blocked cabinet door.) (NO, I don't have blood DNA in a martian meteorite with little red arrows pointing selling on eBay.) We figure it's the house settling or micro movement in the foundation. Wga Woooga - Original Message - From: Meteorites USA e...@meteoritesusa.com To: Galactic Stone Ironworks meteoritem...@gmail.com Cc: Meteorite-list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Friday, July 02, 2010 2:17 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorites are very powerful stones! Hi Mike, List, I think you misunderstand my meaning of 'all'... I was certainly not referring to my particular brand of beliefs at all. ;) On the contrary, I subscribe to no specific orthodox religious, dogmatic, or doctrinal belief system. I study religions and scientific theory equally, and dismiss nothing without careful analysis, logical consideration, reason, and personal spiritual meaning. I take into account and weigh everything with regard to my own personal beliefs. I also don't preach... Much... ;) You asked How would you feel if I started pointing out things that I thought were silly about your religion? Again, read above... It makes no difference as I'm completely and 100% open minded to considering all belief systems (including yours) as possible methods of explaining anything and/or everything, just as I see science as a perfectly viable tool to explain everything. ...And what's with the warning?... No warning... I was referring to mistakenly grouping all religions neatly into a self imposed ideological neatness. Religion (not personal belief) is an historical system of accepted beliefs based in supernatural, superstitious, cultural and generational oration, myth, legend, and subjective interpretations of observations of the natural world since the beginning of humanity. There are natural and scientific reasons for everything. Religion by definition, is also an institutional invention created by subjective human interpretations of natural observations which are simply not completely explainable by science nor religion, yet. Religion itself is merely a word. Your belief is yours personally... ...Does your particular brand of superstition somehow deserve special consideration, despite an equal lack of scientific evidence?...' No... Because I have no superstitions. Maybe OCD, but not superstitions... ;) I believe that religion and science will one day realize an epiphany that both are trying to explain the same things from different intrinsic and very human perspectives. Science by evidenced observation, and religion by faith. I do not attack one nor attach to either individually, but rather weigh everything as a whole. It is, after all, only naturally open and tolerant to do so. Regards, Eric On 7/2/2010 11:34 AM, Galactic Stone Ironworks wrote: Hi Eric and List, I am merely making a point. All religious systems are equally valid under the eyes of science. And what's with the warning? Does your particular brand of superstition somehow deserve special consideration, despite an equal lack of scientific evidence? How would you feel if I started pointing out things that I thought were silly about your religion? America is supposed to be about tolerance. That is the only point I was trying to make. I'll shut up now before I come across to mainstream religious folk the same way you came across to non-mainstream religious folk. Best regards, MikeG PS - at least New Agers have a deep respect for all things natural. You don't see crystal-rubbers out trashing our environment. On 7/2/10, Meteorites USAe...@meteoritesusa.com wrote: Be careful with the word 'all'. Eric On 7/2/2010 11:20 AM, Galactic Stone Ironworks wrote: Hi List, There is an equal amount of scientific evidence to support all religious belief systems. Best regards, MikeG On 7/2/10
Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorites are very powerful stones!
I read the blog, the only thing I saw wrong was the associations, come on, pyrite and lodestone? It's all in the crystal, how about peridot and serpentine? There could be something to the telepathic and psychic awareness though, I swear ever since I became a serious collector, I can hear my wife thinking it's just a rock, you bought another rock? How much was this one? ever time a package arrives. And then there was the voices in my head every time I was near my collection, they kept telling me the story of a young elf trying to save her people using an amulet of light, powered by a black diamond from a meteorite, the same meteorite that was used in a ritual under a lunar eclipse to forge a sword of evil that binds the souls of those defeated at it's hand. The book releases in a couple weeks, they made me do it I'm ok, just need to buy more meteroites, they keep calling to me On Fri, Jul 2, 2010 at 1:27 PM, Greg Stanley stanleygr...@hotmail.com wrote: Perhaps I we start a new hobby. Meteorites are said to increase awareness, particularly telepathic and psychic awareness. If you are learning a psychic power, or trying to develop one further, meteorites are particularly in-tune with this. Greg S. Date: Fri, 2 Jul 2010 10:13:57 -0700 From: e...@meteoritesusa.com To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] Meteorites are very powerful stones! ...Meteorites should NOT be used in elixirs at all... http://pagan-writing.blogspot.com/2010/07/meteorites.html Regards, Eric Wichman Meteorites USA __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list _ The New Busy is not the too busy. Combine all your e-mail accounts with Hotmail. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?tile=multiaccountocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_4 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
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Hi Eric and List, My bad, I misunderstood your intent. I had a burr under my saddle today, so it would have been wise for me to be scarce instead of injecting my two cents on what is essentially a non-issue. Like someone else in this thread said - regardless of what the new age practitioners say about meteorites curing addictions, I will say that is entirely false. Meteorites have become an all-consuming addiction of their own. Although it did break my addiction to Televue eyepieces. I can't afford meteorites *and* Naglers. LOL Best regards, MikeG On 7/2/10, Meteorites USA e...@meteoritesusa.com wrote: Hi Mike, List, I think you misunderstand my meaning of 'all'... I was certainly not referring to my particular brand of beliefs at all. ;) On the contrary, I subscribe to no specific orthodox religious, dogmatic, or doctrinal belief system. I study religions and scientific theory equally, and dismiss nothing without careful analysis, logical consideration, reason, and personal spiritual meaning. I take into account and weigh everything with regard to my own personal beliefs. I also don't preach... Much... ;) You asked How would you feel if I started pointing out things that I thought were silly about your religion? Again, read above... It makes no difference as I'm completely and 100% open minded to considering all belief systems (including yours) as possible methods of explaining anything and/or everything, just as I see science as a perfectly viable tool to explain everything. ...And what's with the warning?... No warning... I was referring to mistakenly grouping all religions neatly into a self imposed ideological neatness. Religion (not personal belief) is an historical system of accepted beliefs based in supernatural, superstitious, cultural and generational oration, myth, legend, and subjective interpretations of observations of the natural world since the beginning of humanity. There are natural and scientific reasons for everything. Religion by definition, is also an institutional invention created by subjective human interpretations of natural observations which are simply not completely explainable by science nor religion, yet. Religion itself is merely a word. Your belief is yours personally... ...Does your particular brand of superstition somehow deserve special consideration, despite an equal lack of scientific evidence?...' No... Because I have no superstitions. Maybe OCD, but not superstitions... ;) I believe that religion and science will one day realize an epiphany that both are trying to explain the same things from different intrinsic and very human perspectives. Science by evidenced observation, and religion by faith. I do not attack one nor attach to either individually, but rather weigh everything as a whole. It is, after all, only naturally open and tolerant to do so. Regards, Eric On 7/2/2010 11:34 AM, Galactic Stone Ironworks wrote: Hi Eric and List, I am merely making a point. All religious systems are equally valid under the eyes of science. And what's with the warning? Does your particular brand of superstition somehow deserve special consideration, despite an equal lack of scientific evidence? How would you feel if I started pointing out things that I thought were silly about your religion? America is supposed to be about tolerance. That is the only point I was trying to make. I'll shut up now before I come across to mainstream religious folk the same way you came across to non-mainstream religious folk. Best regards, MikeG PS - at least New Agers have a deep respect for all things natural. You don't see crystal-rubbers out trashing our environment. On 7/2/10, Meteorites USAe...@meteoritesusa.com wrote: Be careful with the word 'all'. Eric On 7/2/2010 11:20 AM, Galactic Stone Ironworks wrote: Hi List, There is an equal amount of scientific evidence to support all religious belief systems. Best regards, MikeG On 7/2/10, Meteorites USAe...@meteoritesusa.com wrote: Hi Mike, Attempts to be philosophical by quoting Spies Like Us is one thing. Implying we don't understand new age belief systems is quite another. Ignorance mistakes the natural for supernatural. - Me Regards, Eric On 7/2/2010 10:34 AM, Galactic Stone Ironworks wrote: We mock what we do not understand. While I personally do not subscribe to these beliefs - many people do. I have several customers who purchase meteorites for New Age purposes - and their money is just as green as everyone elses. Please send all such customers my way where they will be greeted with a smile and an open mind. On 7/2/10, Meteorites USAe...@meteoritesusa.comwrote: ...Meteorites should NOT be used in elixirs at all... http://pagan-writing.blogspot.com/2010/07/meteorites.html Regards, Eric Wichman Meteorites USA __ Visit the Archives at
