Re: [meteorite-list] Mega-Chondrule Competition
None of these are in the mega size range, but IMHO there are some really interesting chondrules here. This unclassified slice is something that I bought as a buy it now item for 4 or 5 bucks from a seller just because I was already buying other things from the same person, and thought that I might as well take advantage of the lower combined shipping. Turns out, though, that this impulse buy piece is one of the favorites that I own As for scale, it jams tight in a 38mm membrane box. There is one especially interesting zoned, multicolored eggish-shaped one in the right lower quadrant of the scan: http://webpages.charter.net/garrison6328/tmp/cool_unclassified.jpg __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: Re: [meteorite-list] Mega-Chondrule
On Tue, 24 Oct 2006 03:25:36 +0200, you wrote: The 2 halves. http://illinoismeteorites.com/images/duellith5.JPG Hey, those lithologies aren't fighting! (And yeah, it sure looks like 869 to me.) __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Weird bit-o-space (was Re: [meteorite-list] Mega-Chondrule Competition)
(Forwarding this posting from off-list in the hopes of getting comments from the peanut gallery.) On Tue, 24 Oct 2006 19:53:34 -0500, you wrote: Could the bright white chondrule in same quadrant be a CAI? Could the zoned, multicolored eggish- shaped one be a clast of another chondrite? Or do chondrules just look like a miniature meteorite once in a while? In complete ignorance, I ask. http://webpages.charter.net/garrison6328/tmp/cool_unclassified.jpg I wish I knew the answer to lots of questions about this piece (and about more or less any other meteorite) but raw mineralology is one of my weakest areas. About all that I can handle in identifying mineral species in meteorites is this looks cool and that looks odd. It seems pretty obvious, though, that this has a pretty darned low metamorphic grade, and that the chondrules (and possibly inclusions deserving other names) have had a pretty complex and diverse history. There is NO visible metal in it, but there are areas where it is apparent that metal has oxidized away. That could be from long terrestrial weathering, or it could be ancient, I don't know. The redness of the matrix does resemble some R chondrites to me. I've made a map of some of the features that interest me: http://webpages.charter.net/garrison6328/tmp/cu_map.jpg the zoned, multicolored one I mentioned is number 2, of course. It is a similar size to other chondrules in the piece, so I don't know about the alien clast thing-- unless it came from something with much smaller chondrules. As for the possible CAI, you mean in number 3? I donno. It has white areas and also blueish ones and reddish ones. Lots of complexity there. __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Wow. Look what I just stumbled across!
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Re: RE: Re : [meteorite-list] Chondrule formation mechanism (Info Please)
On Wed, 25 Oct 2006 11:52:23 -0400, you wrote: If the heavy elements, such as nickel and iron, are created by a supernova, and the chondrules are in theory formed much later during the future dynamics of our solar system's nebula, would it be fair to say that the metal flecks would be billions and billions (apologies, Carl) of years OLDER than chondrules? Of course the individual atoms in chondrules are much older than the chondrules themselves (but know knows exactly how many stellar generations ago) but as for the actual flecks of metal themselves, I think that they are concentrated by whatever mechanism it is that melts the chondrules-- like oil seperating from water, the iron/nickel seperated from the silicates (and that is more apparent in armored chondrules). Recently there has been news of studies on the decay products of short-lived supernova produced elements that show that there were supernovas very close (both in space and time) to the proto-solar system. (This article was posted 22 minutes ago as I'm finding it) http://www.cnn.com/2006/TECH/space/10/25/sun.sisters/ I believe (though I haven't googled up the articles related to it) that recent studies of elements and isotopes in certain meteorites suggest that components from at least 3 seperate supernovas contributed to the materials in the early solar system. If so, why don't we see any remnants of any supernova explosion in our relative proximity? The Helix Nebula is the closest to us, at 450 light-years! In our current position, it takes around 225 million years for one orbit of the center of the galaxy, or about 20 orbits since the birh of the sun. That's plenty of time and distance for a whole lot more than 450 light-years of drift between the sun and the nursery. __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] AD - KAYUNWAR ebay auctions
On Thu, 26 Oct 2006 22:13:21 +0200, you wrote: Dear All, Sorry about this second post but I found out that the links got cut; I hope this time it will be all right. I don't know why Ebay started adding all that extra crap to their URLs. All you need to point to an item is this: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem= plus the item number. So, one of your auctions goes from: http://cgi.ebay.com/CRUSTED-Saharan-Meteorite-139-3g-3370_W0QQitemZ130039433227QQihZ003QQcategoryZ3239QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem to: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=130039433227 __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] (no subject)
On Thu, 26 Oct 2006 16:33:45 -0400, you wrote: please remove me [EMAIL PROTECTED] from your mailing list .the site is not what i expected.i dont have the faintest idea what their talking abuot except meteorsthank you Just out of curiosity-- what were you expecting/looking for? __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: RE: [meteorite-list] One Ad Per Week
On Fri, 27 Oct 2006 18:53:09 +, you wrote: Not honoring this rule when everybody else does is just plan disrespectful. David, Take for instance, the long lines at the Disneyworld zoo where you work in Orlando. If somebody were to take cuts to the front of one of these long lines and damage the air with a methane release right in front of you, most would consider this pretty rude. at disneyworld they have something known as a fast pass (or is it a speed pass) allowing you to cut infront of the line and wait 5 minutes to get on your favorite ride instead of an hour. i'd say that most list members (including the owner) would agree that given the spectacular nature of the photos Mike linked he was just using a fast pass. I for one appreciated the amazing photos of Mike's great new iron. The and you can buy some of it, too part was pretty much an afterthought on it to me (especially since buying any of it is out of the question for me for the forseeable future). (Although it might be fun to make Mike eat the cut in line roach anyway http://wusatv9.com/news/news_article.aspx?storyid=52629) __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: Re: [meteorite-list] pieces forsale
On Sun, 29 Oct 2006 18:01:11 -0500, you wrote: What no Ghubara Maybe there should be a special giveaway of Ghubara blood. Dab it on a tissue, possibly? __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorites, Ice Antarctica
On Mon, 30 Oct 2006 21:36:20 + (GMT Standard Time), you wrote: Hullo again, Anyone read Meteorites, Ice Antarctica by Dr. Bill Cassidy? I'm about half way though and it is a great read! He has great humour and writes so well - a must read if you've not done it. His description of the Nakhla dog story is told in a really nice anecdotal way - made me laugh! Yeah, good book. Search the list archives and you'll find more than one discussion of it. __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Stolen Meteorite
On Mon, 30 Oct 2006 22:18:51 -0500, you wrote: valued at $1 million by US collectors in 1996, then simply kept in an office cabinet of professional investigators? (not that this title necessarily gives them credibility for anything) snip The space rock, known as the Binya Meteorite, was taken from a cabinet in the office of professional investigators Austrace in Newcastle on Sunday night. The theft of the 11kg space debris follows a nasty dispute between its original owners and the Insolvency and Trustee Service of Australia before it was sold to a private collector in 2004. So how much did it sell for, in the 2004 auction? (I'm betting that it wasn't a mil). http://www.lexsimshauser.com.au/Meteorite/Meteorite.htm http://www.lexsimshauser.com.au/Meteorite/images_large/rock-(hires).jpg __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Google-Moon Lunar impact features and more
On Wed, 1 Nov 2006 11:21:10 -0800 (PST), you wrote: Dear List, For those wanting to study more about impact craters I am sending this link to the List. Enjoy! With Google Earth, you spend hours pouring over images trying to find impact craters. With Google Moon, you can spend hours trying to find spots WITHOUT an impact crater! __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Someone doesn't care for Paypal!
Okay, it isn't directly meteorite related. But since so many of us use Paypal in the buying and selling of meteorites, I thought this would be of interest. http://cbs5.com/topstories/local_story_305004735.html __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: Re: [meteorite-list] Steve Arnold (Chicago) what are you doing????????
On Fri, 3 Nov 2006 11:27:46 EST, you wrote: I'd be interested in knowing whether the hole in the specimen at issue was the result of the flight of the specimen (ablation) or whether it resulted from natural weathering, as was suggested as a possible cause for the hole in a previous thread. Or there could be a third option-- an graphite nodule fell out origin. __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: Re: [meteorite-list] Time for a Met-List Upgrade?
On Sat, 04 Nov 2006 15:03:35 -0500, you wrote: upgrade will resolve the issues. I believe the issues are not related to the list itself, but rather the problem stems from our respective ISPs. I agree. I don't see orphan replies, meaning replies to other posts that never reached me, and logically if posts were bouncing then some of them would be root topics and there would be replies to show up to questions I never saw. So I'm assuming that all the posts are getting through. I know that it has become clear that Comcast is a steaming pile of corpolites, and I'm thinking that metlist posts are disappearing in spam filters for some other ISPs, too. __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: Re: [meteorite-list] Time for a Met-List Upgrade?
Another thing that you have to concider is that maybe movies are causing your problem. See, the internet is a series of tubes. And when those tubes fill up with movies, internets that you send may have to wait in line to get to the tube. So an internet sent to you yesterday could possibly not arrive until the next day. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1lYiDo0DjSk __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Best place to keep a meteorite= bathroom??
http://www.the-signal.com/?module=displaystorystory_id=33982format=html A Rock a Kid's Bucket of Pennies Commentary by John Boston Mr. SCV Saturday November 4, 2006 Space isn't remote at all. It's only an hour's drive away if your car could go straight upwards. - Sir Fred Hoyle Time is such a creature, elastic, unforgiving, nonexistent, relentless. Many years ago, I was a boy of maybe 16 or 17 and visiting my friends, the Dotys. That was 40 years ago. A bunch of us sat down to play a game of penny poker and a cherubic younger brother, John Doty, wide-eyed and innocent, wanted to play with us older kids. I still remember wincing when he brought in his bank and emptied the coins onto the carpet. I can't remember how much, but I took Johnny for some serious cash, maybe ten bucks. That was a child's fortune back in the 1960s. Pocketed it all, too. I'll never forget that boy's beautiful, stunned face, trying to comprehend all the chores, gifts and found dimes and pennies walking out the door in my stuffed pockets. A couple of days later, I brought back his bank, every cent intact. Don't gamble if you can't afford to lose, I told him. Then I did an about face. I guess I was pedantic even at 16. Just the other day, he recalled the event I had forgotten and repeated back my words. John Doty and I have been friends for 40 darn years. Isn't that something? The other day, he placed in my hand a meteorite. It's on prominent display in my bathroom. Mostly, a day doesn't go by without me picking it up and hefting it. The size of a small child's fist, it's dark gray and very heavy. Almost every day, I shake my head in wonder. This nugget came from outer space. Better. It landed here in Santa Clarita. I don't know why I am so frequently fixated by this other worldly object. I'm not remotely a rock hound, although I do keep a collection of the random ore from my 3-year-old daughter's mining operations around the canyon. How many countless, cold miles did this object travel before hitting a desolate canyon in my home town? How long did it just sit in the dirt before Johnny picked it up? A month? A billion years? I don't know why I like holding this little remnant of the universe. I pick it up from time to time and rub my thumb across it. It calms me. How many light years had it been flying? There's no sound in space, I'm told. And, of course, it's not like the rock has ears any way. But can you imagine? All that time, coasting in all the quiet darkness? Earth can be such an unasked-for diet. I'm guessing this space particle was larger before it entered our planet's atmosphere. I don't know. Were dinosaurs even an idea yet when it began it's journey? Could this thing in the palm of my hand be older than the Earth? Maybe. How about friendship? Is that an eternal idea? __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Seeking Out Meteorites (on the moon)
http://www.spacedaily.com/reports/Seeking_Out_Meteorites_999.html Seeking Out Meteorites by Staff Writers London UK (SPX) Nov 07, 2006 Monica Grady, a professor of planetary and space science at the Open University in the UK, is one of the world's meteorite experts. In addition to studying the finer details of these rocks from space that fall to Earth -- such as learning the geochemistry of meteorites originating from Mars -- she is also interested in the broader implications of her findings, and uses her research to learn more about the possibility of life elsewhere in the universe. In part one of this interview with Astrobiology Magazine, Grady talks about why we need to search for meteorites on the moon. She also explains why it took so many years to find a martian meteorite on Earth. Astrobiology Magazine (AM): Rumor has it that the astrobiology community has given you the title, Reigning Queen of Meteorites. Monica Grady (MG): Oh, that is completely unfair! (laughs) I don't know where this title came from. It's not so much unfair as it's undeserved, because I don't do anything that other people don't do. I research a subject that has an astrobiological import and I enjoy talking to other people about it. But there are loads of people in the astrobiology community who do work that is higher profile than mine. AM: Apparently you're doing something that's getting the attention of a wide audience. For instance, making the case to go back to the moon to search for meteorites. MG: We know that meteorites have been falling on the Earth for 4.5 billion years, but the oldest age of terrestrial meteorites is about 2 million years. Those meteorites were found in Antarctica. For meteorites that fall in hot deserts, their oldest age is about 100 to 200 thousand years. For meteorites that have fallen in temperate zones, their oldest age is about a thousand years -- a very short period of geological time. Now if you go to the moon, you're going to be looking at rocks that fell anywhere from 100 million years ago to 10 million years ago. The moon is an airless body, so there's very little environmental change to objects there. So we have a chance of looking at meteorites that fell a long time ago. Theoretically, they shouldn't be much different from meteorites that fell yesterday, because they all come from the same place in the solar system, but we don't know. The orbits of asteroids evolve with time and populations of asteroids evolve with time. So meteorites that fell 100 million years ago could be slightly different in composition than those today, or there may be a greater preponderance of one type over another that we don't have now. Meteorites on the moon also could tell us about the flux of meteorites in antiquity, so we might be able to fill in the gap between what we call the Heavy Bombardment period and the average rate of bombardment. But that depends on whether we are able to get an age for the lunar meteorites. We get a cosmic ray exposure age when things are in space, and we get an exposure rate for meteorites on Earth by looking at isotopes like chlorine-36. I've no idea if we'll be able to get a lunar exposure age. I don't know how that would work. AM: Can you explain why there are older meteorites on the moon? Does it have to do with the moon being tectonically inactive, and so the surface is always the same? MG:Yes, the reason we don't have ancient meteorites on Earth is because the surface of our planet is always changing. Meteorites that fell a long time ago are now gone. But on the moon you've got a very stable, ancient surface. So the idea of collecting ancient meteorites there is valid. Just to illustrate, I was fortunate to be part of a team that looked for meteorites in the Nullarbor region of Australia. One day we found four meteorites in an area less than a square kilometer in size. I think the Nullarbor Plain is 60 million years old. Those four meteorites were all different -- they were from different parent bodies, different asteroids. In Antarctica, the movement of ice brings meteorites together. But the Nullarbor has no concentration mechanism for meteorites -- it's just a flat plain. The meteorites might get blown a bit by the wind, but they essentially remain where they land. So four meteorites from four separate parent bodies hit that square kilometer over 60 million years. That's staggering. That square kilometer wasn't calling out to be hit; it's completely representative of the Earth's surface. That indicates the potential number of meteorites on the moon. It has a nice flat surface like the Nullarbor, with no concentration processes other than time, and no removal processes. AM:I've heard that looking for meteorites on the moon is like looking for a needle in a haystack. How hard would they be to find? MG: The Mars rovers have found meteorites, so it's not unreasonable to search for meteorites on the moon. It's going to be, not a difficult task, but a time
Re: Re: [meteorite-list] Brenham Instability Myth
On Tue, 7 Nov 2006 03:23:30 -0800 (PST), you wrote: It is nice to know that the pile of rust and olivine I have visibly decaying away in my collection is only doing so mythically. Maybe the original post was just a mythunderstanding. :-) __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Science Loses When PR Becomes Top Priority(Brenham Meteorites)
On Mon, 6 Nov 2006 22:06:49 -0800, you wrote: Man is this guy bitter, here's his email address if you wish to send him an e-hug. Yeah, the guy does have a bit of anger in him. However, I did find it very interesting and noteworthy that some high-school girl had in fact found a Brenham with a GPR before the NASA team showed up and did the same, and that news really should have made it to the press. (To me, that's a bit more impressive than a team of trained professionals with expensive equipment finding one). __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] simulant moon dust wanted by NASA
On Tue, 7 Nov 2006 10:02:38 -0800 (PST), you wrote: Dear List, I don`t how much the government is wasting on stimulant(sic) dust but they are searching for more. Here is their link: http://www.space.com/scienceastronomy/moon_dirt_050124.html I see your wanted-- fake moon dirt and raise you an unwanted-- real moon dirt http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/15607792/ Lunar explorers face moon dust dilemma Scientists are grappling with how to handle dust for next moon shot By Leonard David Space.com Updated: 3:12 p.m. ET Nov 7, 2006 GOLDEN, Colo. The Moon is dusty, grimy, and potentially hazardous to your health. Ultra-tiny dust grains can gum up the works of vital hardware on the Moon. And there's also a possible risk to health from gulping in the lunar dusta toxicological twist to bad Moon rising. Thanks to the Apollo program there's firsthand knowledge about the Moon being a Disneyland of dust. Moonwalkers were covered from helmet to boot with lunar dust. Also tagged as the dirty dozen, astronauts on the various Apollo missions worked long hours in the lunar environment, setting up science equipment and collectively bagged 840 pounds (382 kilograms) of rock and other surface material for shipment back to Earth. As NASA planners gear up to replant astronauts on the lunar surface before 2020, scientists and engineers are grappling with how best to certify a safe and productive stay for 21st-century moonwalkers. Mining specialists, researchers, entrepreneurs, and NASA managers took part in the eighth Space Resources Roundtable, held here Oct. 31-Nov. 2 at the Colorado School of Mines and in collaboration with the Lunar and Planetary Institute in Houston, Texas. First and foremost is just the fact that the dust just sticks to everything, said Jasper Halekas, a research physicist at University of California, Berkeley Space Sciences Laboratory in Berkeley, California. From gauge dials, helmet sun shades to spacesuits and tools, the stick-to-itness of dust during the Apollo missions proved to be a noteworthy problem, Halekas reported. Most amusingly, he added, even the vacuum cleaner that was designed to clean off the dust clogged down and jammed. Halekas recounted a technical debrief by Apollo 17's Gene Cernan after his 1972 Moon voyage. Cernan said that one of the most aggravating, restricting facets of lunar surface exploration is the dust and its adherence to everything no matter what kind ... and its restrictive friction-like action to everything it gets on. The astronaut added: You have to live with it but you're continually fighting the dust problem both outside and inside the spacecraft. Electrically active Although the lunar environment is often considered to be essentially static, Halekas and his fellow researchers reported at the workshop that, in fact, it is very electrically active. The surface of the Moon charges in response to currents incident on its surface, and is exposed to a variety of different charging environments during its orbit around the Earth. Those charging currents span several orders of magnitude, he said. Dust adhesion is likely increased by the angular barbed shapes of lunar dust, found to quickly and effectively coat all surfaces it comes into contact with. Additionally, that clinging is possibly due to electrostatic charging, Halekas explained. I think it would behoove us to understand the lunar dust plasma environment as well as possible before we try to come up with detailed dust mitigation strategies, Halekas told SPACE.com. This would mean characterizing the dust, electric fields and plasma around the Moon and understanding how they interact. Halekas said that he advocates science experiments either in lunar orbit or on the Moon's surface preferably both in order to gauge the problem. At this point, we know so little about the near-surface electrodynamic environment and its effect on dust that we can't do much more than conjecture and try to predict the most likely scenario, Halekas said. Just knowing that the dust is there, Halekas added, tells us that we need to deal with it. But without more detailed knowledge than we currently have, I think we're handicapped in coming up with effective mitigation strategies. Astronaut health It is imperative that today's return-to-the-Moon planners recall experiences from the Apollo era, said Larry Taylor, Director of the Planetary Geosciences Institute at the Department of Earth and Planetary Sciences at the University of Tennessee in Knoxville. One problem that was not well anticipated was the ubiquitous, adherent, abrasive, and floating dust problem, he advised. Taylor emphasized that the most critical effect of lunar dust, however, may be on astronaut health. With each Apollo mission to the Moon, Taylor said that astronauts remarked about the gun powder smell when they took off their helmets inside their lunar lander after climbing back in from a moonwalk. Several astronauts reported respiratory or eye
Re: [meteorite-list] Falling stones and birds...
On Thu, 9 Nov 2006 02:52:03 +0100, you wrote: Hola list, I have a stupid question for the ornithologists. Does it happen, that birds are throwing with stones? There are types of birds that collect objects for some reason or another. http://archives.stupidquestion.net/sq11702.html http://www.pbs.org/wnet/nature/bowerbird/odd.html __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Meteorite interview, part 2
http://www.astrobio.net/news/modules.php?op=modloadname=Newsfile=articlesid=2139mode=threadorder=0thold=0 __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Meteormaybe in Georga
http://www.walb.com/Global/story.asp?S=5657715nav=5kZQ Piece of the cosmos in Valdosta? November 9, 2006 Valdosta - Astronomers at Valdosta State University are studying a rock they believe could be a meteorite. The rock was brought in by two Valdosta residents who say they saw a blue light and the rock fall out of the sky, almost hitting their car. Professor Martha Leake says the rock is magnetic and has a ragged texture and odd density. She is currently testing the rock for nickel, iron, and other components usually found in meteorites. If the tests come back positive, she says the meteorite will most likely bare the name of Valdosta. The meteorites are usually named for the place they are found. This is Henbury Australia, Odessa Texas and if it's found here in Valdosta, it could be called the Valdosta Georgia Meteorite, says Professor Leake. They expect the test results to come back in a month. __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Where do I sign up?
http://www.space.com/news/061116_asteroid_nasa.html NASA Studies Manned Asteroid Mission By Leonard David Senior Space Writer posted: 16 November 2006 06:32 am ET NASA is appraising a human mission to a near-Earth asteroidgauging the scientific merit of the endeavor while testing out spacecraft gear, as well as mastering techniques that could prove useful if a space rock ever took aim for our planet. Space agency teams are looking into use of Constellation hardware for a human Near-Earth Object (NEO) missionan effort underway at NASAs Ames Research. Another study is delving into use of Constellation components to support an automated Mars sample return mission. That study is led by NASAs Jet Propulsion Laboratory in Pasadena, California. The Constellation Program encompasses NASAs initial efforts to extend the human presence throughout the solar system. Major pieces of the Constellation Programsuch as the Orion crew vehicleare meant to support transport of humans and cargo to the Moon and to the International Space Station, while future efforts would sustain missions to Mars and beyond. Astronauts, engineers and scientists at NASAs Johnson Space Center in Houston, Texas have been looking into the capabilities of the Orion vehicle for a mission to a near-Earth asteroid. Significant assets A human mission to a near Earth asteroid would be scientifically worthwhile, said Chris McKay, deputy scientist in the Constellation science office at the NASA Johnson Space Center. It could be part of an overall program of understanding these objects. Also, it would be useful, instrumentally, in terms of understanding the threat they pose to the Earth. Stationed at NASAs Ames Research Center located in Californias Silicon Valley, McKay told SPACE.com that work is underway to evaluate the science enabled by sending crews to asteroids, and to judge how best to assure safe and efficient exploration. Asteroids are relics from early solar system formation, McKay pointed out. Then theres the whole, what I call the Bruce Willis factor the star in the movie Armageddon and the ability to send significant assets to an asteroid. Theres a lot of public resonance with this notion that NASA ought to be doing something about killer asteroids to be able to send serious equipment to an asteroid, McKay observed. The public wants us to have mastered the problem of dealing with asteroids. So being able to have astronauts go out there and sort of poke one with a stick would be scientifically valuable as well as demonstrate human capabilities, he said. McKay emphasized that its premature to send off a piloted mission to an asteroid to do countermeasure activities. There could be testing of various approaches. But we dont know enough about asteroids right now to know the best strategy for mitigation, he said. Forward looking reasons Its a terrific mission if we can do it and if it programmatically makes sense, said Former Apollo astronaut, Russell Schweickart, Chairman of the B612 Foundation, a group with the goal of significantly altering the orbit of an asteroid, in a controlled manner, by 2015. Schweickart said that there are a number of forward looking reasons to put asteroids on NASAs lofty Moon, Mars and beyond agenda. The value of asteroids for on-the-spot resources, for one, was noted by Schweickart. Secondly, validating command and control skills in piloting up to an asteroid would be beneficial, he said. Furthermore, a human venture to a space rock may well accelerate precursor robotic surveys of asteroids, Schweickart observed. Early unmanned visits to asteroids...its the same pattern as we did with the Moon and were doing right now with Mars. Its all pretty logical, he told SPACE.com. Public awareness regarding asteroids, via a human exploration initiative, would be helpful, Schweickart said. Its an opportunity for the public to be educated in reality, not in terms of Hollywoods version of asteroid-busting as seen in the movie, Armageddon. Quick dash Clearly, it will be first-things-first in testing the new Constellation architecture. And that means going to low-Earth orbital missions to wring out the systems and procedures. These are likely to be followed in rather quick succession by lunar orbital and landing missions. But a very natural, early extension of the exploration capabilities of this new vehicle architecture would be a quick dash near-Earth asteroid rendezvous mission, said Dan Durda, a senior research scientist in the Department of Space Studies at the Southwest Research Institute, Boulder, Colorado. That kind of early demonstration mission might last no more than 60 or 90 days, Durda said, and take the crew no farther than a few lunar distances away from Earth. Durda said he could imagine that such a flight might be made before the first lunar landing evenperhaps after a lunar orbital mission or twoin order to try out spacecraft systems on an
Re: [meteorite-list] Rover's on Mars-humour.
On Thu, 16 Nov 2006 17:04:01 -0700, you wrote: It was bound to happen: http://www.theonion.com/content/node/54360 At least the freakin' transformers didn't find it, like poor Beagle 2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ItK90yvA44 __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] The ultimate meteorite tester
Take a look at the supermagnets near the bottom of the page. Massive rare-earth magnets. http://www.unitednuclear.com/magnets.htm __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] The ultimate meteorite tester
On Fri, 17 Nov 2006 15:34:26 -0800, you wrote: I have the #232 magnet and there is still an unclaimed $100 cash prize for the person that can pull it off of my refrigerator with their bare hands - no tools allowed. By the way, this magnet will hold a phone book to the fridge. No pacemakers allowed in my house without prior knowledge... So here's the plan-- get a geta http://www.costumes.org/classes/uafcostumeshop/images/classproject/makeupclass/disk9/019_7.JPG http://images.google.com/images?q=getasvnum=100hl=enlr=c2coff=1safe=offsa=Gimgsz= get a couple of the bar of soap supermagnets. Glue the magnets to the middle of the geta. Go to Barringer crater and walk around. Free Nininger spherules! (And if you are lucky, maybe some slightly bigger pieces). __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Blogger post failed
Here's that weird message again. What address on the list is feeding into a blog? X-Symantec-TimeoutProtection: 0 Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: from aa03.charter.net ([10.20.200.155]) by mtao04.charter.net (InterMail vM.6.01.06.03 201-2131-130-104-20060516) with ESMTP id [EMAIL PROTECTED] for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Fri, 17 Nov 2006 18:46:07 -0500 Received: from blogger.com ([66.102.15.83]) by aa03.charter.net with ESMTP id [EMAIL PROTECTED] for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Fri, 17 Nov 2006 18:46:07 -0500 Received: by blogger.com (Postfix, from userid 99) id 42108D8366; Fri, 17 Nov 2006 15:54:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from bla18.blogger.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by blogger.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 29429D8365 for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Fri, 17 Nov 2006 15:54:04 -0800 (PST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Blogger post failed From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-Id: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2006 15:54:04 -0800 (PST) bla18.blogger.com tests=ALL_TRUSTED,NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=failed version=3.0.2 X-Chzlrs: 0 Blogger could not process your message at this time. Error code: 6.182B958 __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Blogger post failed - Source
On Fri, 17 Nov 2006 22:23:27 -0600, you wrote: Plus I have located the source. According to the blog homepage, it is owned by Art, BAN HIM!!! :-) owner of this list, and it appears to copy everything on this list. Except it seems that it is failing to get everything (hence the error messages). This blog is part of blogger.com, and the e-mail address that is bouncing our messages from time to time is [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yes, but that looks to be an address for a sevice on blogger.com, not a user, so isn't meaningful in tracking someone down. Like [EMAIL PROTECTED] (to pull a domain out of a hat) isn't the address of a guy named Abner Use who picked a cruddy ISP. __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Rocks From Space Picture of the Day - November 19, 2006
On Sun, 19 Nov 2006 10:53:19 -0800, you wrote: Apparently some browsers provide more/different information than mine. I use Foxfire - which I know is fairly common, and this is ALL that came through besides the photo: See, there's your problem right there. While an earlier, lesbian-themed Angelina Jolie movie CAN be good for some entertainment, it can't be used for browsing the web. Maybe you could switch to Firefox. Then you'll see this: http://webpages.charter.net/garrison6328/firefoxscreen.jpg __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Rocks From Space Picture of the Day - November 19, 2006
On Sun, 19 Nov 2006 12:16:15 -0800, you wrote: to LOOK UP that info, you must first have the fall/find NAME. I am not getting the name. I don't know why could it be cox cable? could it be Firefox? Could it be Macintosh? Could it be a combination of Firefox and Macintosh? Could it be gremlins? Who knows. Apparently Could you do a screen capture of Firefox not showing the caption (like I did with Firefox showing the caption)? Maybe that'll show some clue as to what looks different on your version. On general principle, though, the standard way to fix a Mac is with a 10-pound sledge. __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] make a reasonable offer (AD)
On Tue, 21 Nov 2006 23:04:07 -0800, you wrote: Matteo, Reflect on your own history before you cast asparagus. Is that a zen thing? http://www.merchantspassage.com/servlet/Detail?no=1071 http://atouchofglassgifts.tripod.com/id19.html __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] in Smithsonian Magazine
On Wed, 22 Nov 2006 20:07:28 EST, you wrote: Hello Members, I found this in the Letters section on this month's issue of Smithsonian Magazine: HOT ROCKS DASH MOON SKEPTICS: As a former student intern at NASA's Johnson Space Center now serving time for the heist of Apollo moon rocks, I share the frustration expressed by Melody Von Smith in Moonstruck. Arguing logic with those who hold ignorance as a badge of honor rarely does any good. When people say to me that the moon landings were faked, I simply ask them why I am here. Thad Roberts Well, we know he gets Smithsonian and Discover in jail (as per my earlier posting of a letter to Discover). I wonder what other magazines he gets? __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Scumbag Steve Arnold Chicago
On Thu, 23 Nov 2006 11:13:23 -0600, you wrote: For those who care, This dips..t never ceases to amaze me. I bought an item from the mentally challenged Steve Arnold on ebay a while back. Apparently he listed the item for $1.00 by mistake. So he called me acknowledging the mistake and I said no problem you aren't obligated to sell me it, I'll just let it go Well, The moron just left me a negative feedback for the item that we agreed to cancel. File a complaint with Ebay. __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Dig Turns Up Little At Mysterious Newport Tower *except for a meteorite)
http://www.turnto10.com/news/10392157/detail.html NEWPORT, R.I. -- An archaeological dig at a mysterious Newport Tower turns up -- not much. Archeologists spent a month digging at a structure called the Old Stone Mill. The tower's origins are uncertain -- leading amateur historians to speculate it was built by Nordic Vikings, Irish monks or even stranded Chinese sailors. Archaeologists said the excavation yielded buttons, pottery and glass fragments -- but none dated later than the late 1600s. However, the team believes it found part of a small meteorite that fell more than 2,000 years ago. Many in Newport believe the tower has more local origins. They said it was built under the direction of colonial Governor Benedict Arnold, the great-grandfather of the Revolutionary War traitor. Joyce Clements, an archaeologist involved in the dig, said colonial Rhode Island had craftsmen skilled enough to build it. __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] OT fun guy
Last night I was browsing through some photos I had taken a few weeks ago and just got around to downloading from my digital camera. This one looked ubercool to me: http://webpages.charter.net/garrison6328/shroomcap.jpg it reminds me of this picture of Hyperion: http://photojournal.jpl.nasa.gov/jpeg/PIA07740.jpg __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] website GONE
On Sat, 25 Nov 2006 06:07:32 -0800 (PST), you wrote: note,I wish anyone who likes to do PUBLIC attacks on this list please keep it private.NO ONE LIKES PUBLIC ATTACKS.For some reason some people think that everything here needs to be aired.NO MORE!! Just for myself, I don't care to see the attacks that are nothing more than namecalling, but I think it a service to the list to report slimy business tactics from you or any other dealer/trader, as they let less savvy list members know who to avoid like the plague. In summary, Steve Arnold is a big poopy doody-head = off-topic Steve Arnold is a deceptive lying theif = on-topic, if accurate. __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite novels -gifts II
On Sat, 25 Nov 2006 19:34:06 -0600, you wrote: do that in Iraq). And we've certainly never managed to have a war as magnificently named as The War of Jenkins' Ear! Well, now we have The War of He Tried To Kill My Daddy. __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] 70kg monster chondrite for sale
On Mon, 27 Nov 2006 00:35:31 +0100, you wrote: Hi Well known moroccan dealer Mr Habibi have a monster size chondrite for sale. http://www.polandmet.com/_nwa_aziz.htm Wow, this one is nicer than the 70 kilo one: http://www.polandmet.com/gfx_nwa_aziz/003.htm __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] The ultimate meteorite tester
Interesting note-- I just saw this web site featured on CBS news tonight. Included a brief interview with the site operator. It was on because other than magnets, the site sells radioactive materials, including Palodium 210 (and lists a few meteorites, but all show as sold) On Fri, 17 Nov 2006 16:30:29 -0500, you wrote: Take a look at the supermagnets near the bottom of the page. Massive rare-earth magnets. http://www.unitednuclear.com/magnets.htm __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Comet attacks Australia!
http://www.thewest.com.au/aapstory.aspx?StoryName=336477 Residents report comet sighting 27th November 2006, 18:54 WST Residents in central and western Victoria have reported seeing a bright light, possibly a comet, streaking across the sky just before sunset. Callers to ABC Radio reported seeing the bright green coloured object shooting westward in the sky from Bendigo to Horsham in the state's north-west down to Colac in the south-west. One caller, Jeff, said he saw what he thought was a comet about 8.30pm (AEDT) as he was driving into Horsham. It was green like a meteorite or shooting star, he told ABC Radio. It was really pretty bright and you could see something else coming down as well, but what it was I don't know. It more or less came across the west as you were coming into Horsham from the Melbourne side. Monty from Kaniva, near the South Australia border, said the object was bright and appeared to debris trailing behind it. It was before sunset and normally you only see those things in the dark, Monty said. The trail hung in the sky for at least 15 minutes afterward like a jet stream. Allen at Colac said he was sitting at a service station when he noticed what he thought was a comet. I was sitting at the Shell servo at Colac and I was looking to the north and you could see the green light with the tail thing behind it. Brian, who owns a farm at Laanecoorie west of Bendigo, said he and his wife were outside when they saw the comet-like object streak across the sky. We looked up and there was a green comet like thing dropping out of the western sky, Brian said. It dropped over the trees at the back of our property and it was making a tail as it went down. Victoria Police said they had received calls from residents across the state's west, but were unsure what the object was. __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Green LASER Pointers
On Mon, 27 Nov 2006 17:23:24 -0500, you wrote: Greetings, all, Does anyone on the List have a link or info for reasonably priced 5-10 mW green laser pointers? Forget green-- go for a Blu-Ray laser. Only $1999! http://www.wickedlasers.com/sonar.php __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Lunar?
On Wed, 29 Nov 2006 10:05:09 -0500, you wrote: Hi All, I received this slice from a friend who believes it may be a lunar. See, he had this vision, a vision of a orange penguin pointing at the rock (with a flipper, okay?) and it squaked absolut, absolut and he knew that he had been drinking too much vodka, and that this was a valuable lunar meteorte that God sent to him so that he could get rich on Ebay and make slightly less silly and offensive clones of Chick tracts. __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Pass Times other than posting meteorite sales
On Wed, 29 Nov 2006 16:27:13 -0500, you wrote: You could also get involved in the scientific study of crater formation. Take remaining stock of meteorites in hand (literally) and throw them at your computer components (CPU, monitor, printer, etc.) and then analyze the impacts and resulting crater formations. Not to be outdone by the PS3s being used in [EMAIL PROTECTED], Nintendo has already started that project: http://www.wiihaveaproblem.com/ __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Essexite Gabbro - Not Mars Meteorite
On Thu, 30 Nov 2006 07:05:39 -0500, you wrote: Seems I posted the wrong URL for that 'mars meteorite' you keep seeing on eBay. Here's the right one. http://www.meteorite-dealers.com/essexite/ Thanks for posting that. I can see how well it convinced the wackjob (just check ebay). __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Carbon globules in meteorite may have seeded Earth life
Carbon globules in meteorite may have seeded Earth life * 19:00 30 November 2006 * NewScientist.com news service * David Shiga Life on Earth may have started with the help of tiny hollow spheres that formed in the cold depths of space, a new study suggests. The analysis of carbon bubbles found in a meteorite shows they are not Earth contaminants and must have formed in temperatures near absolute zero. The bubbles, called globules, were discovered in 2002 in pieces of a meteorite that had landed on the frozen surface of Tagish Lake in British Columbia, Canada, in 2000 (see Hydrocarbon bubbles discovered in meteorite). Although the meteorite is a fragile type called a carbonaceous chondrite, many pieces of it have been remarkably well preserved because they were collected as early as a week after landing on Earth, so did not have much time to weather. Researchers were excited to find the globules because they could have provided the raw organic chemicals needed for life as well as protective pockets to foster early organisms. But despite the relatively pristine nature of the meteorite fragments, there was no proof that the globules were originally present in the meteorite, and were not the result of Earthly contamination. Now, analysis of atomic isotopes shows that the globules could not have come from Earth and must have formed in very cold conditions, possibly before the Sun was born. The research was led by Keiko Nakamura-Messenger of NASA's Johnson Space Center in Houston, Texas, US. Cold gas cloud The globules are enriched in heavy forms of hydrogen and nitrogen, called deuterium and nitrogen-15, respectively, ruling out their formation on Earth. The relative amounts of these isotopes is characteristic of formation in a very cold environment: between 10 and 20 Kelvin above absolute zero. This means that the globules may predate our Sun, since temperatures like these would have prevailed in the cold cloud of gas from which our Sun formed and ignited. Alternatively, the globules might have formed after the Sun but while the planets were still developing. The right temperatures would also have existed in the outer reaches of the developing solar system where the comets are thought to have formed. Intriguingly, comets are known to contain particles of organic material of roughly the same size, although the shape of these particles is not known. Membrane-like structures Either way, the globules are extremely old, says team member Scott Messenger, also of the Johnson Space Center. We're looking at the original structures of organic objects that formed long before the Earth formed, he told New Scientist. Nakamura-Messenger's team says the globules could have been important for the origin of life by providing the raw materials and membrane-like structures needed. Some scientists think that the presence of some sort of container that could separate an organism's internal chemistry from its environment was a crucial stage in the evolution of life. It's sort of reminiscent of membrane type structures, agrees Larry Nittler, at the Carnegie Institution of Washington in Washington DC, US. But as for whether the structures could have kick-started life on Earth, I think thats highly speculative at this point, he says. Journal reference: Science (vol 314, p 1439) __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Essexite Gabbro - Not Mars Meteorite
On Thu, 30 Nov 2006 19:30:01 -0500, you wrote: geologist) while weathering met-list critical group-think. Congratulations, In defense of critical group-think, the critical group-thinkers were saying that it isn't a meteorite, proving that it isn't a meteorite would in no way change the mind of the wackjob, and that Gary would be wasting his time if he thought that the wackjob would acknowledge or accept the results. Well, guess what? It isn't a meteorite, the wackjob's mind wasn't changed, and Gary wasted his time if he thought the wackjob would acknowledge or accept the results. So the crital group-thinkers were 100% spot-on accurate. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=280049934416 BTW, only slightly less wacky: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=140058962456 __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Essexite Gabbro - Not Mars Meteorite
On Thu, 30 Nov 2006 19:24:53 -0600, you wrote: Hello all, An interesting observation on lunar meteorites is that they are small. The largest around one kilo. Has anyone done any math on the size of lunar meteorites that could make it to the earth? What about that super-secret 13 kilo one from Africa? __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] What else do you collect?
Another packrat here. I've collected a little bit of everything (it seems like) over the years. Fossils-- especially ammonites and trilobites (I have an inordinate fondness of Flexicalymene sp. trilobites from around Ohio-- I have dozens of them) and large shark teeth. Other minerals to some extent. Banknotes and coins. DVDs and books. Photons (like someone else mentioned). Seashells. Etc, etc, etc. __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] What else do you collect?
I just took a couple of quick photos of some of my best (in terms of size, shape, color, condition, or any of the above) larger (and some smaller) shark teeth. Try to overlook the quality of the photo (taken inside, with flash). I'm not making any claims that they are museum-worthy, but I'm happy with them, and some here may never seen similar ones before. They are a mixture of mostly ones bought from local sources (river divers selling them at a flea market, tourist stops along the South Carolina coast) and a few from Ebay. Unfortunately, I've never been lucky enough to find anything large on my own. The scale coin is a US half-dollar. http://webpages.charter.net/garrison6328/sharkteeth1.jpg http://webpages.charter.net/garrison6328/sharkteeth2.jpg __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] What else do you collect?
On Fri, 1 Dec 2006 11:43:11 -0500, you wrote: Darren Garrison wrote: I have an inordinate fondness of Flexicalymene sp. trilobites from around Ohio--I have dozens of them. Hello Darren, One of the neatest specimens I once had in my trilobite collection was a pair of Flexicalymene meeki trilobites from Ohio in a configuration known to collectors as love bugs. If you have Ohio collector Thomas Johnson's book Trilobites of the Thomas T. Johnson Collection, there's an excellent example on page 110. I'm sure you've seen the configuration: a completely enrolled Flexicalymene with another Flexicalymene wrapped around it. Just by coincidence, there's an Yes, I've seen some great examples of those crop up on Ebay from time to time over the years. Bidding for them has always reached the too rich for my blood range, though. The pair on Ebay now you linked to I wouldn't really count as love bugs-- at least, the aren't nearly as tighlty wrapped as the best ones that I've seen. As for buying that set, I already have what is known technically in the collecting community as too damn many of them: http://webpages.charter.net/garrison6328/trilobites/ __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Okay, confess
Which one of you was selling the rockwangs at Tuscon? :-) http://fireflyforest.net/firefly/2006/02/04/tucson-gem-mineral-show-2006-part-2/ (And I was googling for Terataspis grandis, not for rockwangs, not that there is anything wrong with that...) __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Steves $1.00 auctions
On Mon, 04 Dec 2006 21:11:20 -0700, you wrote: However, you probably don't realize that you have been used as a pawn in some sort of mastermind business strategy. I haven't figured it out yet. Could be a case of life imitating art. In this case, a weird juxtaposition of Brewster's Millions and Forrest Gump. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brewster%27s_Millions http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forrest_gump Life is like a box of chondrites. __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Comet watches
An article on rare stones being used in watches, including a mention of meteorites, which are extracted from comets fallen to Earth. http://www.iht.com/articles/2006/12/08/news/rwatchmine.php Oh, and here's a watch that could be made from comet material: http://www.gutenberg.org/files/11735/11735-h/11735-h.htm#3 __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Look at this great auction!
On Tue, 12 Dec 2006 16:36:18 -0500, you wrote: Michael and list members... He finally saw the light and uploaded the Sikhote-alin strewnfield photo to his server instead of just linking to my website. I actually messaged the guy saying nice family photo not because I wanted to be a party-pooper, but because what's the fun if he doesn't see the photo, too? Here's the reply that he sent: I linked the image from a website. It was a copyright free bw image and I didn't suspect the site owner didn't like image linking... The insertion was placed on ebay.co.uk and there was no problems from european ebay servers. Anyway I fixed the problem. Thanks for looking. __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Look at this great auction!
On Tue, 12 Dec 2006 15:52:51 -0700, you wrote: Jim, that was a superb prank! Ingenious of you to substitute a new photo at your own URL. That actually isn't that uncommon a practice. People often tend to be much more graphic, though, using for the replacement photo goatse or tubgirl. (Whatever you do-- do not search google images for those-- and when you do, don't say I didn't warn you). __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Look at this great auction!
On Wed, 13 Dec 2006 01:54:34 GMT, you wrote: suspension of a IMCA member. Just a simple notice that it is impolite to link to another dealer's website. I would venture a guess that most people really don't stop to think about there being any problem with linking to a photo on a web site, or think about bandwidth costs. After all, most people don't run web sites or pay for bandwidth, so they don't even realize that peope have to pay for it. You don't have to pay to use MySpace or any of the other past and present free web sites, and that is about the only experence people have with making a web page. For instance, 20 MB of web space comes free with my broadband account. All the times I've posted documents and photos and videos for access by the mailing list, I put it in that space. I don't know how much it is accessed, I don't know who accesses it, and I don't even know how/what softwere to use to find out from where each file is accessed. If Charter has any type of bandwidth restrictions on the free space, I've never read it, or heard complaints about me overusing it, so I don't even think about it. __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Look at this great auction! I'm the bandwidth stealer!
On Wed, 13 Dec 2006 09:05:19 -0500, you wrote: Here is a humorous website that I found today concerning hotlinking: http://www.cockeyed.com/pranks/imposter/imposter.html Here's a photo I saved from a few months back that was replaced on a web forum. It was (not that memory serves me, but judging from the file name) supposed to be a picture of the Hamburglar before the replacement: http://webpages.charter.net/garrison6328/hamburglar.jpg __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] BIMS mag
On Wed, 13 Dec 2006 18:35:17 -0800 (PST), you wrote: Hi Dave, I could not make this link work, it wanted to sell me a file sharing service??? The service is useful in that it allows you to share files, but it is really annoying in doing it. You have to 1.) click on the free link, 2.) wait a certain number of seconds while a countdown takes place, and 3.) enter into a box the letters/numbers you see on screen (that to try to protect from machine hacking). THEN you will be allowed to download the file. http://rapidshare.com/files/7340626/Flowlines_2_nov2006.pdf __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] biggest taggish lake
On Fri, 15 Dec 2006 08:13:51 -0800 (PST), you wrote: Kidding aside, If you are speaking about Tagish Lake They will have disolved into mud. What say you list? That's what I was thinking. I was under the impression that Tagish Lake was of a consistancy that it would dissolve like a lump of dry clay/dirt if it got wet. __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Republic of Palau Nantan Coin
On Mon, 18 Dec 2006 20:33:09 -0800 (PST), you wrote: Dear List, Given the proclivity for rusting in Nantans, what is the likelihood of the Nantans in the Palau coins deteriorating? Thomas Well, when I think of well made, long lasting items I certainly think of the Republic of Palau. __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] LARGE fireball report!
On Tue, 19 Dec 2006 16:19:22 -0700, you wrote: That close to Tokyo, I'd suspect Rodan or Mothra g. Rodan? Mothra? Be serious! Those are Earth creatures. Mike obvioulsy saw King Ghidorah! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/King_Ghidorah __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Renseignements
On Wed, 20 Dec 2006 19:08:50 +0100 (CET), you wrote: Sorry for the last mesage but i try hope understand it. (I sollicitre of members list to inform me well with what had the presence of the chondrules in the meteorites. in continuation their magnetism (abundant presence of iron, not very abundant and non-existent). will be able to say that the interior of a meteorite resembles a magmatic room (high temperature and pressure) then its entry in the atmosphere increases these degrees with the falling speed what gives aspect different to the stone and formations from the chondrules inside. Thank you for your intention, Abdelfattah). I'll give this a try. Are you trying to ask if the heat of passing through the atmosphere changes the internal composition of chondrules in meteorites? If so, then the answer is no. The heat on the outside doesn't have time to reach the inside of the part of the meteorite that reaches the ground. __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] OT: Festivus
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[meteorite-list] Dakhla= ancient Egyptian for okay, who ticked off Ra?
(Sorry about that, accidentally hit send before editing in the new message.) http://www.glassonweb.com/news/index/5274/ Mysterious Egyptian Glass Formed by Meteorite Strike, Study Says Strange specimens of natural glass found in the Egyptian desert are products of a meteorite slamming into Earth between 100,000 and 200,000 years ago, scientists have concluded. The glassknown locally as Dakhla glassrepresents the first clear evidence of a meteorite striking an area populated by humans. At the time of the impact, the Dakhla Oasis, located in the western part of modern-day Egypt, resembled the African savanna and was inhabited by early humans, according to archaeological evidence (see Egypt map.) This meteorite event would have been catastrophic for all living things, said Maxine Kleindienst, an anthropologist at the University of Toronto in Canada. Even a relatively small impact would have exterminated all life for [several] miles. Crater Mystery The origin of the glass had puzzled scientists since Kleindienst discovered it in 1987. Some researchers had suggested the Stone Age glass may have been produced by burning vegetation or lightning strikes. But a chemical analysis showed that the glass was created in temperatures so high that they could only have been the result of a meteorite impact. __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Dakhla= ancient Egyptian for okay, who ticked off Ra?
And the fill article in National Geographic: http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2006/12/061221-egypt-glass.html Mysterious Egyptian Glass Formed by Meteorite Strike, Study Says Stefan Lovgren for National Geographic News December 21, 2006 Strange specimens of natural glass found in the Egyptian desert are products of a meteorite slamming into Earth between 100,000 and 200,000 years ago, scientists have concluded. The glassknown locally as Dakhla glassrepresents the first clear evidence of a meteorite striking an area populated by humans. At the time of the impact, the Dakhla Oasis, located in the western part of modern-day Egypt, resembled the African savanna and was inhabited by early humans, according to archaeological evidence (see Egypt map.) This meteorite event would have been catastrophic for all living things, said Maxine Kleindienst, an anthropologist at the University of Toronto in Canada. Even a relatively small impact would have exterminated all life for [several] miles. Crater Mystery The origin of the glass had puzzled scientists since Kleindienst discovered it in 1987. Some researchers had suggested the Stone Age glass may have been produced by burning vegetation or lightning strikes. But a chemical analysis showed that the glass was created in temperatures so high that they could only have been the result of a meteorite impact. Gordon Osinski, a geologist at the Canadian Space Agency in Saint-Hubert who conducted the analysis, found that the glass samples contain strands of molten quartz, a signature of meteorite impacts. We can now say for definite that they were caused by a meteorite impact, he said. Osinski is the lead author of the paper detailing the findings, which was published online in ScienceDirect. The glass deposits have been found in desert locations separated by tens of kilometers, suggesting a massive event. But scientists have found no signs of an impact crater in the area. Usually from an impact like this, we should have a crater at least a kilometer [0.6 mile] across, Osinski said. The absence of a crater, the scientists believe, suggests that the large space rock may have disintegrated upon entering Earth's atmosphere. What happened may have been similar to the so-called Tunguska event, in which an asteroid exploded miles above the Earth's surface in a remote area of Siberia in 1908. That explosion felled an estimated 60 million trees over 830 square miles (2,150 square kilometers). (See an interactive feature on asteroids.) There was no hole in the ground at Tunguska either, said Albert Haldemann, a planetary scientist at the Jet Propulsion Laboratory in Pasadena, California, who has been using radar to scour the Egyptian desert for impact signs. In an air burst like that, contents of the explosion continue to travel downward providing a gas pulse across the [Earth's] surface that could vitrify sediments, Haldemann explained. Life-Forms Killed Scientists know much more about what happens when meteorites hit hard rock than when they impact sand and sedimentary rock, as would have been the case in the Egyptian desert. At the time, there was a large lake in the area, the researchers say. If there was an impact at the surface and it happened to hit the lake, it wouldn't be surprising if the [crater] was filled in, Haldemann said. Did the event boil the entire lake away, or did it just cause a really big wave to go across the lake? Maybe we can figure that out from the sediments. Kleindienst, the anthropologist, has been excavating at the site for more than 20 years as part of the Dakhla Oasis project. (Her research has been partially funded by the National Geographic Committee for Research and Exploration. The committee and National Geographic News are both divisions of the National Geographic Society.) Kleindienst has obtained a large amount of evidence, including spears and scrapers, to show that humans continually inhabited this region of Egypt's Western Desert during the Middle Stone Age, from about 200,000 to 30,000 years ago. She has even found glass in lake sediments with archaeological evidence of human habitation in the soil layers below and above it. There is no reason to suspect that humans were not there at the time that this catastrophe happened, she said. The meteorite research has important implications for understanding the environmental and human history at the time, Kleindienst added. Calculations at Meteor Crater [in Arizona] give some idea of what the effect of a [relatively small] impact would be, she said. Life forms are killed or seriously injured for many tens of kilometers away from the impact. If this event happened during a humid period, the area might have been ecologically repopulated fairly quickly from surrounding areas, she added. But if it happened during a dry period, it might have taken a considerable period for life to be re-established in the oasis region.
[meteorite-list] Semi-OT free astronomy Ebook
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[meteorite-list] Prospector says Hartman Rocks, meteor strike
http://www.gunnisontimes.com/index.php?content=C_newsnewsid=4967 December 30, 2006 Prospector says Hartman Rocks, meteor strike Ian Neligh If Johnny Tonko is right, then nearly 364 million years ago â just as the first fish started evolving legs â a meteorite crashed into the earth with the force of many hydrogen bombs forming a crater 5 miles across; Gunnison's own Hartman Rocks . This meteorite, according to Tonko, may have also been one in a series of meteorites that strafed across North America at the 38th parallel, pummeling it like a machine gun and possibly causing one of five planetary extinctions â much earlier than the one associated with the end of the dinosaurs. If he's right, his discovery could add a significant amount of information to the late Devonian Extinction Theory. But Tonko is not a geologist, meteoriticist, or planetologist â rather the Pueblo native is a hydrologist with the Colorado Division of Wildlife and acts in his spare time as an amateur prospector looking for diamonds, gold and other precious metals. Tonko spends his spare time trekking across the West in search of where geology tells him x marks the spot. But some say this time he may be digging in the wrong place. Connecting the dots Tonko said when he's not working for the government he's out prospecting. Now 48 years old, Tonko said it's been his passion ever since he was a kid. I've had some good successes â I've been able to locate some diamond pipes out by Fort Collins and some pretty substantial gold bearing ores over by Almont, Tonko said. The biggest thing about prospecting is knowing where to look â during a severe Colorado drought several years ago the hydrologist spent his summer looking at the bottom of dried up lakes for diamonds. Recently he discovered precious stones could also be found at the sites of meteorite impacts. Trying to locate large craters in Colorado, Tonka decided to draw a line across the United States based on the craters found at the 38th parallel â the ones theorized as being a part of the Devonian Extinction. The line brought him to Gunnison. For a fistful of tektite Using a globe, instead of a skewed flat map, and looking at arial photos and satellite imagery Tonko believed he saw the theorized line located in southern Illinois, Missouri and eastern Kansas continuing all the way to a circular crater in Colorado. He admits that many circular structures seen from ariel maps can be attributed to sinkholes or volcanic activity, but the Gunnison impact structure was well within the confines of the lines that he drew along the 38th parallel. What he saw from the images were intriguing, not only from a prospector's point of view, but to someone wanting to advance scientific knowledge. It is really hard to get your mind around the energy that is involved in making one of these structures, Tonko said. Tonko came to Gunnison early this fall, to check out the evidence with his own eyes. Unwilling to give an exact location, at this point in time, to protect his mining claim Tonko said he was able to fairly quickly extract rock samples, proving that the area south of the Gunnison Airport, or Hartman Rocks, was indeed a giant crater. Those samples include among other things semi-precious tektite, or a type of natural glass, which is formed by large meteorites hitting the Earth's surface. A piece of this Gunnison tektite was recently being held for auction by Tonko on Ebay for $980.50. Tonko also said he dated the rocks and put their age to the devonian period. Tonko is currently getting in contact with scientists involved in studying similar craters and hopes more scientific work can be done in the area to further not only the Gunnison meteorite hypothesis, but also the 38th parallel line theory as well. Can looks be Deceiving? Ted Violet teaches physics and astronomy at Western State College. He agrees that the potential for a meteorite strike or comet to strafe the planet is very possible, but doesn't necessarily agree that Hartman Rocks is the result of that type of phenomena. If that was the case, he adds, the evidence of a possible meteor strike would have likely cropped up before now because miners and geologists have throughly picked over the Hartman Rocks area. So unless the geologists (had found something) I would not be inclined to consider that a very credible hypothesis, Violet said. Retired Western State geology professor Bruce Bartleson said that although the Hartman Rocks area looks like a crater, because it is circular, the idea of it actually being one was a bunch of baloney. He states that all geologists believe the area was created either by a 'ring dike,' which is an intrusion of granite poking up into the crust and coming up in kind of a circular form or they think it was created by a sheet of granite, which was then folded into a circular shape. It does have a circular pattern it's true, but I don't think it has any other characteristics whatsoever of
Re: [meteorite-list] SANTA VITORIA DO PALMAR
On Sun, 31 Dec 2006 10:25:36 -0500, you wrote: Who had 15 days in the pool? I donno, but they are probably pretty wrinkly. __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Dave Shiflett-- no fan of the brenham
...a 1,400-pound space rock that resembles a massive, slightly rotting yam. Ugly is only skin deep, however. This monstrosity sold for a cool million. http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601088sid=a.flI69Q4Dvgrefer=muse Pilot Science Show Features Meteorites, Stem Cells, Speedy Cars By Dave Shiflett Jan. 2 (Bloomberg) -- A new PBS show promises breaking news from the world of science, a nice alternative to cable news alerts whenever the president stubs his toe. ``Wired Science,'' which debuts tomorrow at 8 p.m. New York time, is part of an interesting contest in which viewers will help decide PBS's next weekly science program. Two other pilots, ``Science Investigators'' (Jan. 10) and ``22nd Century'' (Jan. 17), round out the competition. ``Wired Science,'' a fast-paced, far-reaching collaboration between PBS and Wired magazine, will be hard to beat. The hour-long show kicks off with a segment on professional meteorite hunters. Viewers contemplating a career move should take note: Sometimes heaven rains far more than pennies. Steve Arnold, a professional meteorite hunter, drags a jerry-built metal detector through an otherwise nondescript Kansas field. Strange noises emanate from the machine and fierce digging commences. Wired correspondent Adam Rogers reaches down into the dirt and pulls out a meteorite the size of an anvil. It won't bring as much as an earlier find: a 1,400-pound space rock that resembles a massive, slightly rotting yam. Ugly is only skin deep, however. This monstrosity sold for a cool million. Meteorites Indeed, there's a competitive market for meteorites, which some people consider art. At one ``meteorite gallery'' we see a fairly modest projectile on sale for $89,000; the one unearthed earlier in the show is appraised at $12,000. In another segment, a plasma television is sawed in half, followed by a short tutorial on how plasma works. We also learn that screens in the future will likely be paper-thin. Later, we visit an underwater facility off the Florida coast where astronauts prepare for life in the stars. Water is a ``close analogue'' to space and the 10-day, highly confining experience helps determine if would-be spacefolk can hack life locked in an alien environment. The only touch of controversy comes in a segment on embryonic stem-cell researcher Renee Reijo-Pera, who started her career as a bookkeeper in an auto-repair shop. These cells, she explains, have no fixed identity and so can be used to repair muscle, nerve, liver, skin and other damaged cells. As for suggestions that embryos should be considered sacrosanct, she responds they have a great deal of ``potential'' but ``no potential if discarded.'' Electric Car On a lighter note, there's a look at those ``rocket packs'' made famous by James Bond and once considered a possible weapons system. That project, known as Operation Grasshopper, didn't return much on investment though there was intense interest at high levels. Archived footage shows President John F. Kennedy at one flight demonstration. This was neat stuff, but a rocketing soldier could easily be brought down by even a slightly talented marksman. As the show winds down there's a brief interview with Elon Musk, former chief executive officer of PayPal Inc. and now involved in higher-tech developments, including an electric car that will go from zero to 60 in under four seconds. That's faster than all Porsches and almost all Ferraris. `Good Viruses' The first model is scheduled to roll out in six or seven months, Musk says, though where to drive these earth-bound rockets is a subject left untouched. The show ends with a look at ``good viruses'' found in the highly acidic thermal fields of Yellowstone. So-called ``extremomphiles'' can be hollowed out and used to transport chemotherapy directly into cancer cells. These microscopic multitaskers can also be used to produce hydrogen -- thus helping us beat our addiction to foreign oil -- and develop hard drives with storage capacity 10,000 times that of those currently available. Viewer response, augmented by market research, will determine if this show, or one of its competitors, gets a 10-week gig starting next fall. The winner will provide a viewing alternative to the presidential horserace, which will by then be in full gallop. A no-brainer, no matter which show prevails. For more information, visit http://www.pbs.org . (Dave Shiflett is a critic for Bloomberg News. The opinions expressed are his own.) To contact the writer of this story: Dave Shiflett at [EMAIL PROTECTED] . __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Close-up New Jersey Object
I just saw a longish story on the object on a local news story, including a close-up of the object being rotated. In the short time of that close-up, it sure looked like regmyglyphs on it to me. I'm trying to search down the video on the net now. __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Close-up New Jersey Object
On Thu, 04 Jan 2007 12:32:22 -0500, you wrote: I just saw a longish story on the object on a local news story, including a close-up of the object being rotated. In the short time of that close-up, it sure looked like regmyglyphs on it to me. I'm trying to search down the video on the net now. Okay, this site SEEMS to have the video-- I can't tell for sure, though, because I can't get the video to play in IE or Firefox. http://www.wnbc.com/index.html __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Close-up New Jersey Object
On Thu, 04 Jan 2007 12:48:11 -0500, you wrote: On Thu, 04 Jan 2007 12:32:22 -0500, you wrote: I just saw a longish story on the object on a local news story, including a close-up of the object being rotated. In the short time of that close-up, it sure looked like regmyglyphs on it to me. I'm trying to search down the video on the net now. Okay, this site SEEMS to have the video-- I can't tell for sure, though, because I can't get the video to play in IE or Firefox. http://www.wnbc.com/index.html Okay, I've seen the video, and I think it's the real deal. http://www.wnbc.com/video/10577864/index.html# __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Close-up New Jersey Object
On Thu, 04 Jan 2007 12:30:22 -0700, you wrote: Sure looks like a piece of pyrite. From the video I saw, crystal faces are visible on one end. Pyrite doesn't hold a magnet. __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Iron Falls NJO
On Thu, 04 Jan 2007 15:01:17 -0600, you wrote: I propose we take a vote Who votes the NJO is a meteorite? Judging from what I could see in that short, low-resolution video, I vote yes. __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Close-up New Jersey Object
Another link with video. http://wcbstv.com/topstories/local_story_004193309.html __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Very Rare NWA2828
On Sat, 06 Jan 2007 17:47:26 -0700, you wrote: How long does it take to be considered paleo? All the means is old. Please shed some light on this for me... Yeah, no kidding. I have a bunch of stuff that I got in a cheap lot on Ebay (not from any of the list members, I think) that sure looks like it should be concidered paleo to me. (For all I know, it might be paired with some of the material being discussed here). For me, though, the term I've been using for it isn't paleometeorite, but crap. __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] PALEO Meteorite||||Was Very Rare NWA2828
On Sat, 6 Jan 2007 17:41:40 -0800 (PST), you wrote: I dont think that Paleo is a proper way to describe them as these meteorites are not paleolithic. Paleolithic is an era starting just before mesolithic Paleo just means old-- paleolithic is the old stone age. Also used in paleozoic. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paleozoic __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] How to get an NJO
On Sat, 6 Jan 2007 21:45:27 -0800 (PST), you wrote: Yes, this one smells funny to me. The one thing I like though, is the non-stop publicity on every TV station in the USA! I must have received calls from just about everyone I know asking me if I was buying this thing! It could be a fall I guess, but just looking at the piece makes me think of NANTAN! I still think there is some funny business going on with this one. Here is a composite of 3 images of the NJO. It seems pretty apparent that the golden appearance in the first photo (which is all over the place now) is the result of lousy photographer and not the actual apperance of the object. In the video it looked black, and in these two new images it looks black. As for the white areas, could it be drywall? http://webpages.charter.net/garrison6328/newiron.jpg __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Irons DON'T form Fusion Crust's - yes they DO
On Sun, 7 Jan 2007 20:17:25 +0100, you wrote: But it doesn't hit the point regarding meteorites. Glassy evokes the impression of something shiny, very smooth, mirror-like. But as we all now But the laymen use of the term isn't the scientific one. Glassy means something that cooled quickly enough that it didn't have time to crystalize and is instead, on the atomic level, an amorphous mess. __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Irons DON'T form Fusion Crust's - yes they DO
On Sun, 07 Jan 2007 14:34:12 -0500, you wrote: On 7 Jan 2007 at 14:26, Darren Garrison wrote: Glassy means something that cooled quickly enough that it didn't have time to crystalize and is instead, on the atomic level, an amorphous mess. I think this is a stretch of the term 'glassy'. Unless there is somewhere a reference to this meaning that I am not aware of? http://www.answers.com/glassr=67 Any of a large class of materials with highly variable mechanical and optical properties that solidify from the molten state without crystallization... http://www.answers.com/glassy Characteristic of or resembling glass. __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Irons DON'T form Fusion Crust's - yes they DO
On Sun, 07 Jan 2007 13:56:00 -0700, you wrote: phenomenological It this really a word? Sounds like a George Bush word. It seems perfectly cromulent to me. __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Nogata Meteorite
On Sun, 07 Jan 2007 18:00:10 -0800, you wrote: If you do discover a still photo of it, I would much appreciate if you let me know of it, as I am working on a book about hammers. Right Plugging the Japanese word for meteorite inseki along with Nogata pulls up this small image: http://www.nogata-cci.or.jp/kan-inseki.html __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Nogata Meteorite
Here is a google search with the kanji for nogata and inseki plugged in. You can use the google translater to get Matteo-esque translations of the pages: http://www.google.com/search?num=100hl=enlr=safe=offq=%E9%9A%95%E7%9F%B3%20%E7%9B%B4%E6%96%B9%E5%B8%82btnG=Searchie=UTF-8oe=UTF-8sa=Ntab=iw From one of the links, here is a monument to the Nogata meteorite with a (apparently from the photo) larger-than-life model of the meteorite: http://blogimg.goo.ne.jp/user_image/53/ac/130dba420e52a8dd680f5d14395e019f.jpg __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Wired Science segment for download
Okay, here's the rapidshare link to the 100 MB version http://rapidshare.com/files/10958368/Brenham_Wired_Science_medium.avi.html __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Wired Science segment for download (resend)
I was never able to find a good copy of the Cash and Treasure segment on line, but I did find a good copy of the Wired Science pilot last night, and trimmed out the Brenham piece. It was 158 MB, but I don't know a good free way to transfer a file of that size to (potentially) hundreds of downloaders without asking you to jump through peer-to-peer software hoops, so I recompressed it to just below 100 MB so it could be uploaded to rapidshare. It looks almost as good as the original. The upload timed out around 60 MB into the upload, so I'll try again and post the link when it becomes available. Meanwhile, while the 100 MB file would only be around a 5 to 10 minute download for someone on a decent broadband connection, it is more like a 5 to 10 HOUR download to those still stuck on dial-up, so I compressed the ache ee double-hocky-sticks out of it again and came up with a horrible-looking 14.7 MB copy (a mere 1 to 2 hours download) and posted it to my web space: http://webpages.charter.net/garrison6328/temp/ Stay tuned to this bat channel for the link to the 100 MB version. __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Wired Science segment for download
I was never able to find a good copy of the Cash and Treasure segment on line, but I did find a good copy of the Wired Science pilot last night, and trimmed out the Brenham piece. It was 158 MB, but I don't know a good free way to transfer a file of that size to (potentially) hundreds of downloaders without asking you to jump through peer-to-peer software hoops, so I recompressed it to just below 100 MB so it could be uploaded to rapidshare. It looks almost as good as the original. The upload timed out around 60 MB into the upload, so I'll try again and post the link when it becomes available. Meanwhile, while the 100 MB file would only be around a 5 to 10 minute download for someone on a decent broadband connection, it is more like a 5 to 10 HOUR download to those still stuck on dial-up, so I compressed the ache ee double-hocky-sticks out of it again and came up with a horrible-looking 14.7 MB copy (a mere 1 to 2 hours download) and posted it to my web space: http://webpages.charter.net/garrison6328/temp/ Stay tuned to this bat channel for the link to the 100 MB version. __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Black diamonds= supernova origin?
The story seems very fishy to me. I find it hard to believe that even diamonds could survive hitting the Earth's atmosphere/surface at interstellar speeds. http://www.livescience.com/forcesofnature/070108_spacey_diamonds.html ET Gems: Black Diamonds Come from Outer Space By Jeanna Bryner LiveScience Staff Writer posted: 08 January 2007 05:42 pm ET If youre looking for a space-age way to propose marriage, a black-diamond ring might be the way to go. Long baffled by their origin, scientists now have evidence that these charcoal-colored gems [image] formed in outer space. Stephen Haggerty and Jozsef Garai, both of Florida International University, analyzed the hydrogen in black diamond samples using infrared-detection instruments at the Brookhaven National Laboratory and found that the quantity indicated that the mineral formed in a supernova explosion. Also called carbonado diamonds, meaning burned or carbonized in Portuguese, black diamonds defy mineral-making rules and are neverfound in the worlds mining fields where the clear and classic variety typically resides. Conventional diamonds form hundreds of miles beneath the Earths surface, where high pressure and heat turn carbon into diamonds Volcanic blasts send the gems in a short amount of time to the surface where they can be mined. This process preserves the unique crystal structure that makes diamonds the hardest natural material known, said Sonia Esperanca of the National Science Foundation. She was not involved in the research. Since 1900, about 600 tons of conventional diamonds have been traded. Black diamonds reside in certain geologic formations in Brazil and the Central African Republic. Haggerty has suggested, in the past, that black diamonds might have rained down on Earth inside meteorites billions of years ago. Their relative distribution on Earth could be explained by the timing of the formation of the continents, he said. The new research was published in the journal Astrophysical Journal Letters. __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Brightest Comet in 30 Years: Comet C/2006 P1(McNaught)
On Thu, 11 Jan 2007 03:58:20 -0800 (PST), you wrote: break and find out too late. It's blowing a hoolie up here in the Western Isles of the UK and the glorious Hm. Never heard that term before. But you have my sympathies: http://www.dayoopers.com/rocknock.html __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] New photo of the NJO
http://deseretnews.com/dn/view/0,1249,650221958,00.html __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Meteorite hunter= slur?
http://www.news-leader.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070109/NEWS01/701090375/1007 Geologist claims defamation Texan sues after MSU professor criticizes meteorite find in News-Leader guest column. Melissa DeLoach News-Leader A Texas geologist alleges a Missouri State geology professor libeled and defamed him in a News-Leader guest column criticizing the October find of a 154-pound Brenham meteorite fragment in a Kansas wheat field. Philip C. Mani, along with Brenham Meteorite Co. Ltd., claim in a lawsuit filed Monday in Greene County Circuit Court that Kevin Evans disparaged them and their findings by referring to them as meteorite hunters. They claim Evans insinuated that the team of scientists whose use of ground-penetrating radar was touted for its potential in exploration of the planet Mars exaggerated and lacked sufficient information concerning their work. Evans wrote in a Nov. 6 opinion piece, Science loses when PR becomes top priority, that the meteorite had in fact been discovered by a Springfield high school student two weeks earlier working on a science fair project. Said Evans: When public institutions and government agencies partner with commercial enterprises to hunt for meteorites and then publicize undocumented claims, it short-circuits science methods and it sends the wrong message to students. This concerns me both as a geologist and as a teacher of future scientists. The plaintiffs allege Evans' statements are false and threaten to damage their reputations and the value of the recovery. Further, it could jeopardize their ability to conduct meteorite research and recovery in the future. They are seeking unspecified damages. Evans, when contacted Monday, declined to comment. He said he had not yet seen the lawsuit. __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Lightning Balls Created In The Lab
On Fri, 12 Jan 2007 13:28:53 +0100, you wrote: Hi List! I remember that you can have a lot of fun with wire wool and a microwave oven. Also a nice lightning ball! But don't forget to throw the microwave away later; it won't be useful any more after that treatment. ;) I posted these links to the list, but they seemed to have never made it: http://www.angelfire.com/electronic/cwillis/microwave.html http://www-personal.umich.edu/~reginald/ball_l.html http://apache.airnet.com.au/~fastinfo/microwave/ball.html http://amasci.com/weird/microwave/voltage2.html __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Stoned sofa for sale
Come on, if people buy mailboxes hit by meteorites, cars hit by meteorites, vent covers hit by meteorites, and hammer heads dug up while looking for meteorites, surely someone here would want this. http://www.thewest.com.au/aapstory.aspx?StoryName=347641 Meteorite-damaged NZ sofa for sale 14th January 2007, 5:30 WST A New Zealand couple are auctioning a sofa which was damaged when a meteorite crashed through the roof of their Auckland home. Phil and Brenda Archer, who now live in New Plymouth, are advertising the sofa - and a replica meteorite - for sale on the TradeMe website. The couple were propelled into the headlines when the meteorite smashed through the roof of their Auckland home in June 2004. The rock travelled up to 700 million kilometres from the asteroid belt between Mars and Jupiter. The meteorite was a four billion-year-old 1.3 kg rock and was the last known recovered meteorite to have landed in New Zealand. Named the Auckland meteorite, the space rock was bought for $NZ40,000 ($A35,500) by the Auckland War Memorial Museum. Along with the sofa the couple have also put on the website ruptured roofing tiles, a splintered ceiling beam, a ceiling panel and a pink batt all damaged by the meteorite. At 7.30am Sunday the reserve price of $400 for the sofa had not been met. The couple told the Taranaki Daily News they wanted to sell the collection because they were sick of lugging the items around. Since it happened, we have moved six times. We want to get rid of them and let someone else have them that might see some value in them, Phil Archer told the newspaper. Archer was sitting on the toilet checking out new cars in a motoring magazine when the meteorite hit his house. There was this huge bang and a cloud of dust and debris went through the front room. I thought a car had hit the house. In the only account in New Zealand of a meteorite crashing into a house, the chunk of space rock punched a hole through the roof of the Archers' home, bounced off their couch, ricocheted off the ceiling and back on to the couch before ending up on the floor. The most common meteorites to fall on Earth are called chondrites - stone meteorites which contain small balls of fine-grained silicate rock matrix with small spherical glass inclusions. Meteor showers recur on nearly the same date of every year, because they occur when the Earth's orbit around the Sun takes it through a clump of meteoric debris. NZPA __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] killer glenormiston iron
On Tue, 16 Jan 2007 09:15:24 +1000, you wrote: Hi listoids Checkout the killer Glenormiston iron at http://www.rawnet.com.au/~qwalkra1/glenormiston.htm Kind of questionable auction, in my opinion. It looks like the seller is trying to make people think that they are bidding on the pictured meteorite, not a copy of a paper about the meteorite. He's hoping people will bid high without fully reading (or understanding, for non-native English speakers) the description. __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] killer glenormiston iron
On Tue, 16 Jan 2007 09:48:18 +1000, you wrote: Ah cmon The Glenormiston is not for sale I'm not asking for any bids - the Glenormiston is not going to be auctioned and I'm not selling a copy of a paper about the meteorite Somehow I posted my reply to the wrong message (as someone mentioned). My reply was meant to be for the what a beauty thread with this link: http://cgi.ebay.com/A-flight-oriented-meteorite-Villalbeto-de-la-Pena-Nr-25_W0QQitemZ30007185QQihZ020QQcategoryZ3239QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem People don't always read auction descriptions when they bid. There have been multiple occasions when people would list the BOX for something-- like an Xbox or PS3-- and put it in the description in the listing that it was nothing but a box. But people who didn't read the description well would bid it up to the full action price of the acutal item, and end up with an empty box. That's what I expect to happen with this auction. A __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Stolen NWA 869
On Tue, 16 Jan 2007 12:47:53 -0500, you wrote: I doubt if this will ever turn up, but someone has taken a very nice, small NWA 869 from my collection - right from my own home! I never weighed it, but it is somewhere in the 40-50 gram range. Pics are here; Surely there is only a small number of people who could have done it (I doubt that you have dozens of people going through your house) and a limited time span, so that you could narrow it down? You might not regain the meteorite, but you don't need a friend like that. But with a pice that small and in your on home, are you sure that it just didn't get misplaced somewhere? Have a pet that could carry it off? __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] New Martian meteorite
Good luck getting a slice. http://www.marsdaily.com/reports/Opportunity_Finds_Another_Meteorite_999.html __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Stolen NWA 869
On Tue, 16 Jan 2007 18:16:57 -0500, you wrote: PS - Regarding the lost meteorite, I am not at all inferring that anyone's friends are peasants! Hey, if somebody stole it, imply away. Except in discribing them, I'd change the spelling of peasant by putting a dash between the s and the second a and change the ea into an is. __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Stolen NWA 869
On Tue, 16 Jan 2007 18:28:30 -0500, you wrote: I don't know about the particular circumstrance you are describing but pieces of the Mbale fall were reportedly ground up and eaten as a presummed cure for AIDS. Guess they couldn't find any babies to rape. http://www.aegis.com/news/suntimes/1999/ST990401.html __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
