Re: [Mikrotik Users] Resetting Password

[Faisal Imtiaz via Mikrotik-users]

https://wiki.mikrotik.com/wiki/Manual:Netinstall

it's not that bad, once you have all the items !

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- Original Message -
> From: "Blair Davis via Mikrotik-users" 
> To: "Mikrotik Users" 
> Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2018 10:04:11 PM
> Subject: Re: [Mikrotik Users] Resetting Password

> That doesn't sound so bad...
> 
> I hope that won't turn into 'famous last words'!
> 
> --
> 
> 
> On 8/21/2018 9:49 PM, Faisal Imtiaz wrote:
>> short answer is no...
>>
>> Long answer:-  open the unit, remove the Flash card, hook it up to a flash 
>> card
>> reader on another pc, and use netinstall to reinstall the ROS ( don't
>> format the flash card, otherwise you will loose the license key on it ).
>>
>> Regards.
>>
>> Faisal Imtiaz
>> Snappy Internet & Telecom
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>>
>> Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232
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>> - Original Message -
>>> From: "Blair Davis via Mikrotik-users" 
>>> To: "Mikrotik Users" 
>>> Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2018 9:16:52 PM
>>> Subject: [Mikrotik Users] Resetting Password
>>> Got some MaxxWave RouteMaxx 1200 Core 2 units I need to reset to factory
>>> default.
>>>
>>> Can't find or remember the passwords for them...
>>>
>>> Any jumper on these to default them without loosing the license?
>>>
>>> Other ways to default them?
>>>
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>>>
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Re: [Mikrotik Users] Resetting Password

[Faisal Imtiaz via Mikrotik-users]

short answer is no... 

Long answer:-  open the unit, remove the Flash card, hook it up to a flash card 
reader on another pc, and use netinstall to reinstall the ROS ( don't 
format the flash card, otherwise you will loose the license key on it ).

Regards.

Faisal Imtiaz
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- Original Message -
> From: "Blair Davis via Mikrotik-users" 
> To: "Mikrotik Users" 
> Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2018 9:16:52 PM
> Subject: [Mikrotik Users] Resetting Password

> Got some MaxxWave RouteMaxx 1200 Core 2 units I need to reset to factory
> default.
> 
> Can't find or remember the passwords for them...
> 
> Any jumper on these to default them without loosing the license?
> 
> Other ways to default them?
> 
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> Allegan, Michigan  49010
> 269-686-8648
> 
> A Division of:
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Re: [Mikrotik Users] Pictures of Mikrotik Wireless Wire deployments

[Faisal Imtiaz via Mikrotik-users]

I believe there are some on Facebook group (Wisp Talk / Wisp Pictures etc). 

Regards. 

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> From: "alex phillips via Mikrotik-users" 
> To: "Mikrotik Users" 
> Sent: Tuesday, August 7, 2018 1:48:53 PM
> Subject: [Mikrotik Users] Pictures of Mikrotik Wireless Wire deployments

> Does anyone have any photos of their wireless wire multip point deployments 
> they
> would like to share with me for a presentation I am doing?

> Alex Phillips
> CEO and General Manager
> RBNS.net
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Re: [Mikrotik Users] BGP Communities with 4 Byte ASN

[Faisal Imtiaz via Mikrotik-users]

I think you are being presumptuous that if someone has a 4 Byte ASN they have 
to have a 64 bit community.
Standard BGP communities are defined as 32bit, using the ASN as the first part 
of the community is only a BEST Practices and not a Technical Requirement.
i.e. there is nothing stopping you to have a community defined in your network 
where the first part is not your ASN.

Extended BGP Communities can be 64 bit, and yes current version of MT does not 
support them.

Having said that, I would suggest that you contact your upstream and ask them 
if they have a Standard 32 Bit Community which would allow you to do what you 
need.

Regards

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- Original Message -
> From: "Nick Bright via Mikrotik-users" 
> To: mikrotik-users@wispa.org
> Sent: Wednesday, March 7, 2018 11:44:05 AM
> Subject: [Mikrotik Users] BGP Communities with 4 Byte ASN

> I was hoping to use BGP communities with a backup link, to try to get
> certain types of traffic which are prefering the backup, to go to my
> primary.
> 
> I had hoped to use BGP communities to do this, but I found that BGP
> communities do not support 4 byte ASN, and my backup path provider has a
> 4 byte ASN.
> 
> Is there a mechanism around this in ROS? Another method? With IOS and
> JUNOS there are some extended community list types that allow this (but
> are apparently not universally supported).
> 
> I suspect that the answer is "no, you just can't use 4 bytes with
> communities", hopefully somebody can shine some light?
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Re: [Mikrotik Users] Powerbox staggering power on ports

[Faisal Imtiaz via Mikrotik-users]

Beautiful presentation at the 2013 St. Louis MUM, done by Brian Horn. 

I believe you will find what you are looking for 

https://mum.mikrotik.com//presentations/US13/horn.pdf 

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> From: "Josh Luthman via Mikrotik-users" 
> To: "Mikrotik Users" 
> Sent: Tuesday, January 2, 2018 10:04:23 AM
> Subject: [Mikrotik Users] Powerbox staggering power on ports

> We have an unfortunate deal where we have a temporary solar situation. It's a
> 24vdc supply to a Powerbox which is POE to a BH and AP (Epmp and Nano).
> Over night of course it loses power these weeks with the lack of sun. We get
> there in the morning and with all three things plugged in it won't boot right.
> It looks like the Powerbox comes up but the red light for POE keeps blinking 
> to
> the BH and AP. We can unplug these two, then plug in the BH, and then the AP 
> to
> solve this problem.

> Is there a way to do this without writing a script on RouterOS? I'm thinking 
> of
> shutting power off on bootup, then after 60s port 3 on, 60s port 4 on.

> Josh Luthman
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Re: [Mikrotik Users] howto get past the mtik router and access the ubnt html gui?

[Faisal Imtiaz via Mikrotik-users]

Are you familiar with SSH port Tunnels ? 

Let me introduce you ...  If you find this to be one of the most useful 
tips you have gotten on the list.. you can thank me by buying me a steak dinner 
!

https://blog.devolutions.net/2017/04/how-to-configure-an-ssh-tunnel-on-putty.html
or
https://www.skyverge.com/blog/how-to-set-up-an-ssh-tunnel-with-putty/

Regards.

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- Original Message -
> From: "Jan-OOLLC via Mikrotik-users" 
> To: mikrotik-users@wispa.org
> Sent: Thursday, December 7, 2017 9:06:38 AM
> Subject: [Mikrotik Users] howto get past the mtik router and access the ubnt  
> html gui?

> Using winbox, is there a way to drill in from internet and access the
> html gui on a Ubiquiti radio?  Presently I'm using the winbox Telnet
> tool and ssh to get at the system.cfg data on the radios. This is a real
> PITA, and gives me no means for updating radios and changing settings.
> Can someone please show this ignoramus how to do the gui from remote?
> 
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Re: [Mikrotik Users] CCR routers and BGP

[Faisal Imtiaz via Mikrotik-users]

#1) Not sure which CPU core you are looking at when you say CPU is less then 20%

Look deeper, and you will see the each cpu core utilization.. aggregate view is 
mis-guiding

#2)  As I shared before, using default routes in conjunction with full tables, 
with any traffic engineering (as padding does not count), you can very well 
have traffic that will make it to where it is supposed to go, one way or 
another.

However when you start traffic engineering, i.e. selecting both incoming and 
outgoing paths across particular carriers, and you have traffic destined for 
particular places in the world. you can see your changes or any other 
changes taking 10-15min to become active... as opposed to 1-3min... 

Now put a bunch of them in the mix (lots of peers) and you now have a Route 
Table which is out of sync 
and if you are providing them to others.. you have interesting and strange 
behavior...

Regards.


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- Original Message -
> From: "Shawn C. Peppers" 
> To: "Faisal Imtiaz" 
> Cc: "Mikrotik Users" , "Josh Luthman" 
> 
> Sent: Thursday, November 9, 2017 10:35:42 PM
> Subject: Re: [Mikrotik Users] CCR routers and BGP

> Just check router and its passing a gig, has firewall configured, and hasn't 
> hit
> over 20% CPU.  ccr1009-8g
> 
> Router has been up for 377days, not a hiccup even heard.
> 
> Not sure what kind of hidden issue your speaking of but this setup works fine
> for under a 1 gigbit networks, i have it configured for multiple isps and 
> never
> hear or see any complaints.
> 
> Shawn C. Peppers
> Video Direct
> 866-680-8433 Toll Free
> http://www.video-direct.tv
> 
>> On Nov 9, 2017, at 9:00 PM, Faisal Imtiaz  wrote:
>> 
>> LOL !...
>> 
>> Believe me your router is having issues (aka struggling in keeping up with 
>> the
>> full tables and updates).
>> 
>> You just might not be aware of it or have been affected by them to notice.
>> 
>> Yes it is possible to have a network, where one is happy and unaware of 
>> mundane
>> / yet intricate BGP issues..
>> Consider yourself fortunate.. but at the same time do not use this as a
>> 'standard' of measure that all networks are just like yours :)
>> 
>> I am not trying to be condescending, but offering a technical perspective for
>> you and anyone else who wants to reconcile the two sets of commentary that
>> happens every time the question of CCR and BGP is asked !
>> 
>> :)
>> 
>> Regards.
>> 
>> Faisal Imtiaz
>> Snappy Internet & Telecom
>> http://www.snappytelecom.net
>> 
>> Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232
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>> - Original Message -
>>> From: "Shawn C. Peppers via Mikrotik-users" 
>>> To: "Josh Luthman" , "Mikrotik Users"
>>> 
>>> Sent: Thursday, November 9, 2017 7:24:33 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [Mikrotik Users] CCR routers and BGP
>> 
>>> I am running a CCR with two peers, full ipv4 and ipv6 routes, large ospf, 
>>> qos,
>>> and pppoe customer and seeing zero issues.  Actually it is probably my most
>>> reliable router.
>>> 
>>> Shawn C. Peppers
>>> Video Direct
>>> 866-680-8433 Toll Free
>>> http://www.video-direct.tv
>>> 
 On Nov 9, 2017, at 4:54 PM, Josh Luthman via Mikrotik-users
  wrote:
 
 I remember the CCR had a lot of issues running BGP and would crash.  I'm 
 not
 worried about it takes a couple of minutes to build routes when it first 
 boots
 up.  Are the issues resolved at this point?
 
 I'm running an older x86 box for BGP and want to replace the Powercode BMU 
 (x86)
 with a more power efficient unit, possibly a second CCR?  Does this sound 
 like
 a good idea at this point or will I have Mikrotik problems?  Is there 
 something
 better than the CCR for these jobs?
 
 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
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 Suite 1337
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Re: [Mikrotik Users] CCR routers and BGP

[Faisal Imtiaz via Mikrotik-users]

LOL !... 

Believe me your router is having issues (aka struggling in keeping up with the 
full tables and updates).

You just might not be aware of it or have been affected by them to notice.

Yes it is possible to have a network, where one is happy and unaware of mundane 
/ yet intricate BGP issues..
Consider yourself fortunate.. but at the same time do not use this as a 
'standard' of measure that all networks are just like yours :)

I am not trying to be condescending, but offering a technical perspective for 
you and anyone else who wants to reconcile the two sets of commentary that 
happens every time the question of CCR and BGP is asked !

:)

Regards. 

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- Original Message -
> From: "Shawn C. Peppers via Mikrotik-users" 
> To: "Josh Luthman" , "Mikrotik Users" 
> 
> Sent: Thursday, November 9, 2017 7:24:33 PM
> Subject: Re: [Mikrotik Users] CCR routers and BGP

> I am running a CCR with two peers, full ipv4 and ipv6 routes, large ospf, qos,
> and pppoe customer and seeing zero issues.  Actually it is probably my most
> reliable router.
> 
> Shawn C. Peppers
> Video Direct
> 866-680-8433 Toll Free
> http://www.video-direct.tv
> 
>> On Nov 9, 2017, at 4:54 PM, Josh Luthman via Mikrotik-users
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> I remember the CCR had a lot of issues running BGP and would crash.  I'm not
>> worried about it takes a couple of minutes to build routes when it first 
>> boots
>> up.  Are the issues resolved at this point?
>> 
>> I'm running an older x86 box for BGP and want to replace the Powercode BMU 
>> (x86)
>> with a more power efficient unit, possibly a second CCR?  Does this sound 
>> like
>> a good idea at this point or will I have Mikrotik problems?  Is there 
>> something
>> better than the CCR for these jobs?
>> 
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340
>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
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Re: [Mikrotik Users] CCR routers and BGP

[Faisal Imtiaz via Mikrotik-users]

Yep.. that is exactly what is to be expected.. 

Faisal Imtiaz 
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> From: "Ben Matson via Mikrotik-users" 
> To: "Josh Luthman" , "Mikrotik Users"
> , "Jeremy Austin" 
> Sent: Thursday, November 9, 2017 7:07:15 PM
> Subject: Re: [Mikrotik Users] CCR routers and BGP

> It’s probably a good idea to share my own experiences here.

> From what I’ve seen if you have only one or two upstream peers with full 
> routing
> tables the CCR series gear will be very dependable. When you start adding
> complexity- say you get access to a peering exchange- you’re really going to
> start to suffer. The issue is that the BGP process appears to be
> single-threaded, meaning that no matter how many core you have on your router
> you’re still only using that one core. I have a pair of CCR-1072s that I was
> trying to peer pretty aggressively but ended up having to back off due to
> stability issues.

> From: mikrotik-users-boun...@wispa.org 
> [mailto:mikrotik-users-boun...@wispa.org]
> On Behalf Of Josh Luthman via Mikrotik-users
> Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2017 3:09 PM
> To: Jeremy Austin 
> Cc: Mikrotik Users 
> Subject: Re: [Mikrotik Users] CCR routers and BGP

> Well it's painful on my x86 machine, but I've never really been a problem.

> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373

> On Thu, Nov 9, 2017 at 6:05 PM, Jeremy Austin < jhaus...@gmail.com > wrote:
>> RAM is a consideration.

>> It's convergence time primarily, and route table maintenance, that will be
>> considerably more rapid on x86 due to BGP being a single core process.

>> I have heard of people happily running two full tables on CCR1016. I would 
>> be OK
>> with this as long it were one of a pair of edge routers, as secondary, the
>> primary being either x86 or bigger iron, depending on bandwidth requirements.

>> YMMV. It's fairly easy to determine what your baseline CPU level would be if 
>> you
>> do a full table peering internally for testing. I see about 40% under profile
>> on a CCR1009 with a single full table. (Adds and removes being fairly slow… 
>> try
>> searching the route table for a single route via the CLI, and you'll see how
>> painful this is!)

>> On Thu, Nov 9, 2017 at 1:59 PM, Josh Luthman < j...@imaginenetworksllc.com >
>> wrote:
>>> Is your preference due to stability or speed of peer turn up? I guess I 
>>> should
>>> have specified - I'm running full tables (two peers).

>>> Josh Luthman
>>> Office: 937-552-2340
>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>> Suite 1337
>>> Troy, OH 45373

>>> On Thu, Nov 9, 2017 at 5:56 PM, Jeremy Austin < jhaus...@gmail.com > wrote:
 If you're running multiple full tables, Mikrotik on x86 will have better
 performance, typically, than on a CCR. I have run full tables on as small 
 as a
 CCR1009 with few issues, but prefer x86.

 For a few thousand routes, as in an IGP, BGP on CCR is completely fine.

 On Thu, Nov 9, 2017 at 1:54 PM, Josh Luthman via Mikrotik-users <
 mikrotik-users@wispa.org > wrote:

> I remember the CCR had a lot of issues running BGP and would crash. I'm 
> not
> worried about it takes a couple of minutes to build routes when it first 
> boots
> up. Are the issues resolved at this point?

> I'm running an older x86 box for BGP and want to replace the Powercode 
> BMU (x86)
> with a more power efficient unit, possibly a second CCR? Does this sound 
> like a
> good idea at this point or will I have Mikrotik problems? Is there 
> something
> better than the CCR for these jobs?

> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373

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Re: [Mikrotik Users] Queuing for half duplex

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http://blog.butchevans.com/2008/10/using-ospf-to-create-full-duplex-behaviour-for-wireless-links/

Courtesy of Butch Evans.

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- Original Message -
> From: "Roy via Mikrotik-users" 
> To: "Mikrotik Users" 
> Sent: Wednesday, November 1, 2017 1:22:56 PM
> Subject: [Mikrotik Users] Queuing for half duplex

> Anyone got a pointer to how to set up queuing on a Mikrotik for a
> half-duplex circuit like a wireless link?  I would like to add some QOS
> to a radio.
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Re: [Mikrotik Users] BGP Question

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Technically yes...


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- Original Message -
> From: "Ethan E. Dee" 
> To: "Faisal Imtiaz" 
> Cc: "Mikrotik Users" 
> Sent: Wednesday, November 1, 2017 2:44:43 PM
> Subject: Re: [Mikrotik Users] BGP Question

> If I advertise a summarized subnet to C and more specific subnets to A
> and S, would C only failover in event of losing A or S?
> 
> 
> On 11/1/2017 10:45 AM, Faisal Imtiaz wrote:
>> Feel free to call me..
>>
>> 305 921 4141
>>
>>
>> Faisal Imtiaz
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>> - Original Message -
>>> From: "Ethan E. Dee" 
>>> To: "Faisal Imtiaz" 
>>> Cc: "Mikrotik Users" 
>>> Sent: Wednesday, November 1, 2017 10:31:41 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [Mikrotik Users] BGP Question
>>> I'm confused as to why I need iBGP in order to maintain traffic outside
>>> of my network. Is iBGP able to make changes to my eBGP peering sessions
>>> that would be helpful to my cause? Or are you just saying I should be
>>> running iBGP internally to make things less messy in general?
>>>
>>> It is possible it is going over my head. Would you be able call me and
>>> explain?
>>>
>>> On 11/1/2017 10:09 AM, Faisal Imtiaz wrote:
 See answers inline ..

 Faisal Imtiaz
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 - Original Message -
> From: "Ethan E. Dee" 
> To: "Faisal Imtiaz" , "Mikrotik Users"
> 
> Sent: Wednesday, November 1, 2017 9:51:56 AM
> Subject: Re: [Mikrotik Users] BGP Question
> I am only referring to traffic leaving the internet and entering my 
> network.
 This is called inbound traffic... yes that is exactly what I was talking 
 about
 too.
> I do not want A's traffic to come in thru C unless it is absolutely
> dire. i.e. the BGP session on A quits or the router itself dies.
>
 I understand, what you desire to do.. however it may not match up to what 
 your
 Upstream Desires..
 (e.g. if you advertise A's prefix as 'normal' and C's prefix as 
 'backup'... A's
 network will see C as local connected and insist on using it over an 
 external
 route)



> I have tried setting BGP prepend to 16x on C.
 Like I said, that will not work for you...

> I have used At and Charter Communities to announce a different local
> pref (100 on At 70 on Charter.)
>
 Sort of right track, but you have to evaluate as to how they have their 
 network
 configured.
 Keep in mind Local Pref is only Local to that ASN.. you have to look at 
 their
 network traffic engineering to determine if you are making yourself more
 attractive or less attractive ... and use the local pref figures 
 comparative to
 their's i.e. local pref of 70 does not mean the same thing on all 
 networks
 ! (it is a relative parameter)

> No luck. Looking at the looking glass, Charter is largely the preferred
> path for HE. See attached.
 Welcome to solving a 3 dimensional equation... Charter may be Purchasing IP
 Transit from HE or peering with HE
 Which would explain this..

> Get a similar answer from Cogent's looking glass.
 Not sure if you are reading the 'details' as some of the LG's show.. or 
 just the
 'best path' along with ASN's
> I am using OSPF as my IGP btw. I can route the traffic out the correct
> router just fine. It is the returning traffic I have a problem with.
>
 This is not the proper way to do things...
 The recommended best practices are :-

 use OSPF for distributing loop back IP's
 use iBGP (a requirement) between all the routers (each router needs one 
 session
 to each of the others) for re-distributing your BGP routes

 If you want to run your network as three islands, I suppose you could do 
 it they
 way you are trying to..
 but you are going to have some interesting issues to deal with (especially 
 if
 there is an anomaly on one of the paths, and your asymmetric traffic will 
 show
 weird stuff).

> Do not be afraid to assume I have no idea what I am doing. I have
> followed every rule I can find online so obviously I'm doing something
> wrong.
>
>
>
> On 11/1/2017 9:45 AM, Faisal Imtiaz wrote:
>> I wish there was a 

Re: [Mikrotik Users] BGP Question

[Faisal Imtiaz via Mikrotik-users]

Feel free to call me..

305 921 4141


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- Original Message -
> From: "Ethan E. Dee" 
> To: "Faisal Imtiaz" 
> Cc: "Mikrotik Users" 
> Sent: Wednesday, November 1, 2017 10:31:41 AM
> Subject: Re: [Mikrotik Users] BGP Question

> I'm confused as to why I need iBGP in order to maintain traffic outside
> of my network. Is iBGP able to make changes to my eBGP peering sessions
> that would be helpful to my cause? Or are you just saying I should be
> running iBGP internally to make things less messy in general?
> 
> It is possible it is going over my head. Would you be able call me and
> explain?
> 
> On 11/1/2017 10:09 AM, Faisal Imtiaz wrote:
>> See answers inline ..
>>
>> Faisal Imtiaz
>> Snappy Internet & Telecom
>> http://www.snappytelecom.net
>>
>> Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232
>>
>> Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net
>>
>> - Original Message -
>>> From: "Ethan E. Dee" 
>>> To: "Faisal Imtiaz" , "Mikrotik Users"
>>> 
>>> Sent: Wednesday, November 1, 2017 9:51:56 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [Mikrotik Users] BGP Question
>>> I am only referring to traffic leaving the internet and entering my network.
>> This is called inbound traffic... yes that is exactly what I was talking 
>> about
>> too.
>>> I do not want A's traffic to come in thru C unless it is absolutely
>>> dire. i.e. the BGP session on A quits or the router itself dies.
>>>
>> I understand, what you desire to do.. however it may not match up to what 
>> your
>> Upstream Desires..
>> (e.g. if you advertise A's prefix as 'normal' and C's prefix as 'backup'... 
>> A's
>> network will see C as local connected and insist on using it over an external
>> route)
>>
>>
>>
>>> I have tried setting BGP prepend to 16x on C.
>> Like I said, that will not work for you...
>>
>>> I have used At and Charter Communities to announce a different local
>>> pref (100 on At 70 on Charter.)
>>>
>> Sort of right track, but you have to evaluate as to how they have their 
>> network
>> configured.
>> Keep in mind Local Pref is only Local to that ASN.. you have to look at their
>> network traffic engineering to determine if you are making yourself more
>> attractive or less attractive ... and use the local pref figures comparative 
>> to
>> their's i.e. local pref of 70 does not mean the same thing on all 
>> networks
>> ! (it is a relative parameter)
>>
>>> No luck. Looking at the looking glass, Charter is largely the preferred
>>> path for HE. See attached.
>> Welcome to solving a 3 dimensional equation... Charter may be Purchasing IP
>> Transit from HE or peering with HE
>> Which would explain this..
>>
>>> Get a similar answer from Cogent's looking glass.
>> Not sure if you are reading the 'details' as some of the LG's show.. or just 
>> the
>> 'best path' along with ASN's
>>> I am using OSPF as my IGP btw. I can route the traffic out the correct
>>> router just fine. It is the returning traffic I have a problem with.
>>>
>> This is not the proper way to do things...
>> The recommended best practices are :-
>>
>> use OSPF for distributing loop back IP's
>> use iBGP (a requirement) between all the routers (each router needs one 
>> session
>> to each of the others) for re-distributing your BGP routes
>>
>> If you want to run your network as three islands, I suppose you could do it 
>> they
>> way you are trying to..
>> but you are going to have some interesting issues to deal with (especially if
>> there is an anomaly on one of the paths, and your asymmetric traffic will 
>> show
>> weird stuff).
>>
>>> Do not be afraid to assume I have no idea what I am doing. I have
>>> followed every rule I can find online so obviously I'm doing something
>>> wrong.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 11/1/2017 9:45 AM, Faisal Imtiaz wrote:
 I wish there was a simple answer to your question...

 But... there are some more questions

 With the setup you have described.
  Are you running iBGP sessions between all the routers ?
 if not.. then you are not properly configured.

 In today's day and age, one needs to do Traffic Engineering to have the 
 type of
 traffic flow one desires.
  I wish there was a 'one solution' that fits all situations.. but 
 there isn't
  one.
  Each IP Transit provider is doing their own 'style' of Network Traffic
  Engineering
  One has to understand that first and then try to compensate for it.
 One should ask their upstream for a list of their BGP Communities, 
 that gives a
 good starting point.
 Using the upstream's Looking glass, if available is also a great 
 tool in

Re: [Mikrotik Users] BGP Question

[Faisal Imtiaz via Mikrotik-users]

See answers inline ..

Faisal Imtiaz
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- Original Message -
> From: "Ethan E. Dee" 
> To: "Faisal Imtiaz" , "Mikrotik Users" 
> 
> Sent: Wednesday, November 1, 2017 9:51:56 AM
> Subject: Re: [Mikrotik Users] BGP Question

> I am only referring to traffic leaving the internet and entering my network.

This is called inbound traffic... yes that is exactly what I was talking about 
too.
> 
> I do not want A's traffic to come in thru C unless it is absolutely
> dire. i.e. the BGP session on A quits or the router itself dies.
> 

I understand, what you desire to do.. however it may not match up to what your 
Upstream Desires..
(e.g. if you advertise A's prefix as 'normal' and C's prefix as 'backup'... A's 
network will see C as local connected and insist on using it over an external 
route)



> I have tried setting BGP prepend to 16x on C.

Like I said, that will not work for you...

> 
> I have used At and Charter Communities to announce a different local
> pref (100 on At 70 on Charter.)
> 

Sort of right track, but you have to evaluate as to how they have their network 
configured.
Keep in mind Local Pref is only Local to that ASN.. you have to look at their 
network traffic engineering to determine if you are making yourself more 
attractive or less attractive ... and use the local pref figures comparative to 
their's i.e. local pref of 70 does not mean the same thing on all networks 
! (it is a relative parameter)

> No luck. Looking at the looking glass, Charter is largely the preferred
> path for HE. See attached.

Welcome to solving a 3 dimensional equation... Charter may be Purchasing IP 
Transit from HE or peering with HE 
Which would explain this..

> 
> Get a similar answer from Cogent's looking glass.

Not sure if you are reading the 'details' as some of the LG's show.. or just 
the 'best path' along with ASN's
> 
> I am using OSPF as my IGP btw. I can route the traffic out the correct
> router just fine. It is the returning traffic I have a problem with.
> 

This is not the proper way to do things...
The recommended best practices are :-

use OSPF for distributing loop back IP's
use iBGP (a requirement) between all the routers (each router needs one session 
to each of the others) for re-distributing your BGP routes

If you want to run your network as three islands, I suppose you could do it 
they way you are trying to..
but you are going to have some interesting issues to deal with (especially if 
there is an anomaly on one of the paths, and your asymmetric traffic will show 
weird stuff).  

> Do not be afraid to assume I have no idea what I am doing. I have
> followed every rule I can find online so obviously I'm doing something
> wrong.
> 
> 
> 
> On 11/1/2017 9:45 AM, Faisal Imtiaz wrote:
>> I wish there was a simple answer to your question...
>>
>> But... there are some more questions
>>
>> With the setup you have described.
>> Are you running iBGP sessions between all the routers ?
>>if not.. then you are not properly configured.
>>
>> In today's day and age, one needs to do Traffic Engineering to have the type 
>> of
>> traffic flow one desires.
>> I wish there was a 'one solution' that fits all situations.. but there 
>> isn't
>> one.
>> Each IP Transit provider is doing their own 'style' of Network Traffic
>> Engineering
>> One has to understand that first and then try to compensate for it.
>>One should ask their upstream for a list of their BGP Communities, 
>> that gives a
>>good starting point.
>>Using the upstream's Looking glass, if available is also a great tool 
>> in
>>verifying the traffic engineering
>>
>> simply passing ASN's does not work (most of the time, but varies with 
>> upstream)
>>
>> BGP Traffic engineering is more like steering a Boat Rudder than steering a
>> car... :)
>>
>> If what is listed above makes sense to you, then you have some starting 
>> points
>> to read up and understand BGP
>> If the above does not.. then I suggest you get someone to help you with the
>> setup.
>>
>> Regards.
>>
>> Faisal Imtiaz
>> Snappy Internet & Telecom
>> http://www.snappytelecom.net
>>
>> Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232
>>
>> Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net
>>
>> - Original Message -
>>> From: "Ethan E. Dee via Mikrotik-users" 
>>> To: "Mark Grigsby via Mikrotik-users" 
>>> Sent: Wednesday, November 1, 2017 9:06:27 AM
>>> Subject: [Mikrotik Users] BGP Question
>>> I am multihomed. I have a router that peers with charter and advertises
>>> a few subnets. (Let's call it C)
>>>
>>> I have a router that peers with AT at a tower (lets call it A)
>>>
>>> And a router that peers with 

Re: [Mikrotik Users] BGP Question

[Faisal Imtiaz via Mikrotik-users]

I wish there was a simple answer to your question...

But... there are some more questions

With the setup you have described.
   Are you running iBGP sessions between all the routers ? 
  if not.. then you are not properly configured.

In today's day and age, one needs to do Traffic Engineering to have the type of 
traffic flow one desires.
   I wish there was a 'one solution' that fits all situations.. but there isn't 
one.
   Each IP Transit provider is doing their own 'style' of Network Traffic 
Engineering
   One has to understand that first and then try to compensate for it.
  One should ask their upstream for a list of their BGP Communities, that 
gives a good starting point.
  Using the upstream's Looking glass, if available is also a great tool in 
verifying the traffic engineering

simply passing ASN's does not work (most of the time, but varies with upstream)

BGP Traffic engineering is more like steering a Boat Rudder than steering a 
car... :)

If what is listed above makes sense to you, then you have some starting points 
to read up and understand BGP
If the above does not.. then I suggest you get someone to help you with the 
setup.

Regards.

Faisal Imtiaz
Snappy Internet & Telecom
http://www.snappytelecom.net

Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232

Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net

- Original Message -
> From: "Ethan E. Dee via Mikrotik-users" 
> To: "Mark Grigsby via Mikrotik-users" 
> Sent: Wednesday, November 1, 2017 9:06:27 AM
> Subject: [Mikrotik Users] BGP Question

> I am multihomed. I have a router that peers with charter and advertises
> a few subnets. (Let's call it C)
> 
> I have a router that peers with AT at a tower (lets call it A)
> 
> And a router that peers with Spirit at a tower (lets call it S)
> 
> AT seems to have quite a low preference to the world. And I have no
> idea what I'm doing. Though I feel like I do.
> 
> Nothing works.
> 
> All three routers are mikrotik. How do I tell the world to forget about
> Charters advertisements unless you can no longer see AT?
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [Mikrotik Users] Charter/spectrum wisp?

[Faisal Imtiaz via Mikrotik-users]

Hmmm... Why not a combination of all of the above and plus some ? 

Let's put two and two together... 

1) Comcast, has a few towers that they own, they were using it for Radio 
Communication 

2) Comcast is also offering Cell Phones .. (Maybe start off as a MVNO, and 
transfer folks to it's own infrastructure ? ) 

3) They already have pole attachments rights and cables running... (Think 
MicroPOP's) 

The only puzzling piece is .. What exactly is their angle of play in their 
"Fixed Wireless" venture. 

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Snappy Internet & Telecom 
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Miami, FL 33155 
Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 

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> From: "RickG via Mikrotik-users" 
> To: "Jan-OOLLC" , "Mikrotik Users"
> 
> Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2017 8:41:35 PM
> Subject: Re: [Mikrotik Users] Charter/spectrum wisp?

> Jan, I appreciate the input but that doesn't answer the question: Are they
> leasing or building their own towers?

> On Thu, Sep 28, 2017 at 12:26 PM, Jan-OOLLC via Mikrotik-users <
> mikrotik-users@wispa.org > wrote:

>> If you watch the employment ad on tv from Spectrum, you will see a 1 second 
>> clip
>> of a tech in a bucket plugging a LAN cable into a sector array.
>> jv

>> On 09/28/2017 09:09 AM, RickG via Mikrotik-users wrote:

>>> Are they leasing or building their own towers?

>>> On Thu, Sep 28, 2017 at 11:21 AM, Josh Luthman via Mikrotik-users <
>>> mikrotik-users@wispa.org > wrote:

 Comcast is, I would expect the subsidiaries to follow.

 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
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 Suite 1337
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 On Thu, Sep 28, 2017 at 11:19 AM, Jan-OOLLC via Mikrotik-users <
 mikrotik-users@wispa.org > wrote:

> Is Spectrum getting into the wisp business?

> I saw in the short employment ad on tv a guy in a bucket plugging a POE
> into what looked like some Cambium gear on a tower.

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Re: [Mikrotik Users] Multi-hop BGP

[Faisal Imtiaz via Mikrotik-users]

If you want to get into more details off list that will be fine... 

BGP-Communities is not some magical thing, it is a Custom Defined 
feature/functionality that a provider can choose to implement or not to.. it 
only helps in doing traffic management automatically by their down stream 
customers.. 

There are a number of providers who don't have BGP Communities implemented for 
their down-stream customer use, however they may be willing to do some specific 
traffic engineering that one may desire .. 

Otherwise, it is what it is. 

:) 

Faisal Imtiaz 
Snappy Internet & Telecom 
7266 SW 48 Street 
Miami, FL 33155 
Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 

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> From: "Nick Bright via Mikrotik-users" 
> To: "Mikrotik Users" 
> Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2017 2:28:09 PM
> Subject: Re: [Mikrotik Users] Multi-hop BGP

> On 4/10/2017 1:15 PM, Faisal Imtiaz wrote:

>> hint... not sure who are your ISP's but in some cases, you can use bgp
>> communities for their upstream (as long as they do not filter or overwrite 
>> the
>> communities) to have the desired affect.

> Unfortunately that isn't an option, because of the topology. The issue is 
> that a
> significant amount of the traffic comes from a source directly connected to an
> intermediary network, before it reaches Tier 1 Internet; and that intermediary
> network is the one that is declining to offer support for BGP communities.

> It's the same reason that path pre-pending isn't working well either.
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Re: [Mikrotik Users] Multi-hop BGP

[Faisal Imtiaz via Mikrotik-users]

Let's get into the nitty gritty of things... 

I am going to start backwards 

1) you should have IP Address on loopback interfaces on each of the routers. 

2) you should have an igrp protocol running between all of these routers so 
that they can reach each other's Loopback Address (OSPF is best) 

3) your three routers should be running iBGP mesh between each other, i.e. two 
ibgp sessions on each router, each of those sessions to the other two 
(a.k.a. route reflector settings, in regards to the bgp instance, where the 
update source is the loopback ip ). 
so now you should have a bgp table on each of the three routers, and they 
should be able to see all the different routes which are reachable via the 
other router.. 

4) once you have all of the above setup, then you can do traffic engineering... 
keep in mind, in-bound traffic engineering is done via, bgp communities, asn 
prepends, etc 
out-bound traffic innerspring is done via local pref settings. 

hint... not sure who are your ISP's but in some cases, you can use bgp 
communities for their upstream (as long as they do not filter or overwrite the 
communities) to have the desired affect. 

Regards. 

Faisal Imtiaz 
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Miami, FL 33155 
Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 

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> From: "Nick Bright via Mikrotik-users" 
> To: mikrotik-users@wispa.org
> Sent: Monday, April 10, 2017 11:51:39 AM
> Subject: [Mikrotik Users] Multi-hop BGP

> Greetings,

> I'm working on a bit of BGP configuration that I'm having trouble making work 
> as
> I'd like.
> There are three routers involved:

> 1. RouterA - connected to Primary Tier 1 ISP, does BGP with ISP-A.

>1. I share this router with another WISP (we split the connection), so 
> this
> router does BGP with ISP-A, the other WISP, and my edge router
> 2.
> RouterB - does BGP with RouterA, and connects to my network. 3. RouterC -
> does BGP with Secondary Tier 2 ISP (backup path), does BGP with ISP-B

>1. Connects to the network the same way Router B does, and is 
> connected to
>RouterB in the same switched network in the same subnet e.g. they are 
> directly
> adjacent in the topology.

> All three routers have the same ASN (mine).

> My desired configuration is that ISP-A is the preferred ISP for all traffic,
> unless ISP-A is unavailable (the most likely scenario being the 11GHz backhaul
> between RouterA and RouterB going down), in that case RouterC should function
> as the gateway to ISP-B.

> Some issues to overcome in configuring this are:

>* ISP-B doesn't provide any BGP Communities for which to set "Backup route"
> preference
>* Path Prepending doesn't work, because ISP-B is better connected to 
> numerous
>sources of significant traffic; and even prepending as many as 16 hops, is
> still preferred. If prepending was going to work, that many should do it.

> When I peer RouterB and RouterC, RouterA either doesn't receive the routes 
> from
> Router C; or receives them, but the Next Hop is Router C's IP address; which
> Router A invalidates the route, because it's not directly attached.

> I'm sure that I'm just doing something incorrectly, but I haven't been able to
> identify what. Any suggestions?
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Re: [Mikrotik Users] BFD

[Faisal Imtiaz via Mikrotik-users]

What Routerboard hardware are you running in your network, can you please share 
? 

Thanks.

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> From: "Tommy Adams via Mikrotik-users" 
> To: "Adair Winter" , "Mikrotik Users" 
> 
> Sent: Saturday, March 4, 2017 4:07:35 PM
> Subject: Re: [Mikrotik Users] BFD

> We have several hundred miles of OSPF network using Mikrotik. The keys is to 
> use
> point to point rather than broadcast across wireless links and break up your
> areas. Until we did that, flapping occurred. You also cannot expect an RB750 
> to
> handle a large routing table.
> 
> 
> 
> Tommy A.
> Digitex.com
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> 
>> On Mar 4, 2017, at 8:29 AM, Adair Winter via Mikrotik-users
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Is anyone using it successfully with ccr's or mikrotik in general for ospf
>> routing applications?
>> 
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Re: [Mikrotik Users] Cloud Core Router reboot with no log entries???

[Faisal Imtiaz via Mikrotik-users]

sorry only saw the picture after hitting return. 
both messages are valid... :) 

One say system detected it self locking up 
the other says, watchdog did a reboot ! kind of a good thing.. 

Time to update the firmware ? 

:) 

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> From: "Brough Turner via Mikrotik-users" 
> To: "Scott Reed" 
> Cc: "Mikrotik Users" 
> Sent: Thursday, March 2, 2017 3:13:25 PM
> Subject: Re: [Mikrotik Users] Cloud Core Router reboot with no log entries???

> It was not a power outage and the OSPF issues are minor (coming from a 
> separate
> problem).
> But your suggestion of a terminal window is a good one!

> There are two messages. I suspect the first is true and the second one is
> anomaly that goes along with the lack of any startup log messages.

> This is the first time I've seen a kernel failure out of 7 CCRS operating for 
> 6
> to 14 months.
> ​

> Thanks,
> Brough

> Brough Turner
> netBlazr Inc. – Free your Broadband!
> Mobile: 617-285-0433 Skype: brough
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> On Thu, Mar 2, 2017 at 2:51 PM, Scott Reed < sc...@sbrconsulting-llc.com >
> wrote:

>> Open a terminal window. If it was a power outage, under the banner it will 
>> say
>> something like reboot without proper shutdown.

>> Also, the very beginning of the log after power up may have some help.

>> The part you are showing looks like OSPF getting started.

>> On 3/2/2017 2:11 PM, Brough Turner via Mikrotik-users wrote:

>>> At 12:24 today, one of our core routers appears to have had a brief outage. 
>>> It's
>>> upstream of our monitoring server so initially everything looked like a
>>> disaster, but upon further examination, the outage lasted less than 30 
>>> seconds
>>> and the 11 VPN sessions at the monitoring server were all back up in less 
>>> than
>>> 37 seconds. Looking at the monitoring server and each of the devices 
>>> upstream
>>> of the monitoring server, all had uptimes of >143 days, except the gateway
>>> router, a CCR1036.

>>> Strangely, the uptime on the CCR1036 suggests it rebooted at 12:24 today, 
>>> but
>>> there is nothing in its log. How can we have a 30 second service outage and
>>> have the router's uptime reset with no log entries? On a router reboot, we
>>> normally have dozens of log entries before the router is up, has the correct
>>> time and is behaving normally.

>>> Here's a Winbox view of date, time, uptime and the log. Any ideas? Am I 
>>> missing
>>> something obvious?

>>> ​

>>> Thanks,
>>> Brough

>>> Brough Turner
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Re: [Mikrotik Users] Cloud Core Router reboot with no log entries???

[Faisal Imtiaz via Mikrotik-users]

Are you logging to file ? if yes, then they are sitting in the files section... 

If not, then keep in mind that there is only so much space, and the log file in 
memory will rotate.. 
Best way to see if the router did an actual reboot is to see the Uptime via 
winbox or cli. 

Regards. 

Faisal Imtiaz 
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> From: "Brough Turner via Mikrotik-users" 
> To: "Scott Reed" 
> Cc: "Mikrotik Users" 
> Sent: Thursday, March 2, 2017 3:13:25 PM
> Subject: Re: [Mikrotik Users] Cloud Core Router reboot with no log entries???

> It was not a power outage and the OSPF issues are minor (coming from a 
> separate
> problem).
> But your suggestion of a terminal window is a good one!

> There are two messages. I suspect the first is true and the second one is
> anomaly that goes along with the lack of any startup log messages.

> This is the first time I've seen a kernel failure out of 7 CCRS operating for 
> 6
> to 14 months.
> ​

> Thanks,
> Brough

> Brough Turner
> netBlazr Inc. – Free your Broadband!
> Mobile: 617-285-0433 Skype: brough
> netBlazr Inc. | Google+ | Twitter | LinkedIn | Facebook | Blog | Personal
> website

> On Thu, Mar 2, 2017 at 2:51 PM, Scott Reed < sc...@sbrconsulting-llc.com >
> wrote:

>> Open a terminal window. If it was a power outage, under the banner it will 
>> say
>> something like reboot without proper shutdown.

>> Also, the very beginning of the log after power up may have some help.

>> The part you are showing looks like OSPF getting started.

>> On 3/2/2017 2:11 PM, Brough Turner via Mikrotik-users wrote:

>>> At 12:24 today, one of our core routers appears to have had a brief outage. 
>>> It's
>>> upstream of our monitoring server so initially everything looked like a
>>> disaster, but upon further examination, the outage lasted less than 30 
>>> seconds
>>> and the 11 VPN sessions at the monitoring server were all back up in less 
>>> than
>>> 37 seconds. Looking at the monitoring server and each of the devices 
>>> upstream
>>> of the monitoring server, all had uptimes of >143 days, except the gateway
>>> router, a CCR1036.

>>> Strangely, the uptime on the CCR1036 suggests it rebooted at 12:24 today, 
>>> but
>>> there is nothing in its log. How can we have a 30 second service outage and
>>> have the router's uptime reset with no log entries? On a router reboot, we
>>> normally have dozens of log entries before the router is up, has the correct
>>> time and is behaving normally.

>>> Here's a Winbox view of date, time, uptime and the log. Any ideas? Am I 
>>> missing
>>> something obvious?

>>> ​

>>> Thanks,
>>> Brough

>>> Brough Turner
>>> netBlazr Inc. – Free your Broadband!
>>> Mobile: 617-285-0433 Skype: brough
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Re: [Mikrotik Users] Cloud Core Router reboot with no log entries???

[Faisal Imtiaz via Mikrotik-users]

Unless you are explicitly logging to file, the log you are looking at is only 
kept in memory, as such once the router reboots, historical log is lost. 

Regards. 

Faisal Imtiaz 
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> From: "Brough Turner via Mikrotik-users" 
> To: "Mikrotik Users" 
> Sent: Thursday, March 2, 2017 2:11:07 PM
> Subject: [Mikrotik Users] Cloud Core Router reboot with no log entries???

> At 12:24 today, one of our core routers appears to have had a brief outage. 
> It's
> upstream of our monitoring server so initially everything looked like a
> disaster, but upon further examination, the outage lasted less than 30 seconds
> and the 11 VPN sessions at the monitoring server were all back up in less than
> 37 seconds. Looking at the monitoring server and each of the devices upstream
> of the monitoring server, all had uptimes of >143 days, except the gateway
> router, a CCR1036.
> Strangely, the uptime on the CCR1036 suggests it rebooted at 12:24 today, but
> there is nothing in its log. How can we have a 30 second service outage and
> have the router's uptime reset with no log entries? On a router reboot, we
> normally have dozens of log entries before the router is up, has the correct
> time and is behaving normally.

> Here's a Winbox view of date, time, uptime and the log. Any ideas? Am I 
> missing
> something obvious?

> ​

> Thanks,
> Brough

> Brough Turner
> netBlazr Inc. – Free your Broadband!
> Mobile: 617-285-0433 Skype: brough
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Re: [Mikrotik Users] dual power supplies?

[Faisal Imtiaz via Mikrotik-users]

and here is another one on a similar topic.. 

https://mum.mikrotik.com//presentations/IT14/horn.pdf 

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> From: "Josh Luthman" <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>
> To: "Mikrotik Users" <mikrotik-users@wispa.org>, "Faisal Imtiaz"
> <fai...@snappytelecom.net>
> Cc: "df...@globalvision.net" <df...@globalvision.net>
> Sent: Wednesday, March 1, 2017 9:21:47 AM
> Subject: Re: [Mikrotik Users] dual power supplies?

> Can both power sources be monitored (like utility and battery)?

> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373

> On Mar 1, 2017 9:16 AM, "Faisal Imtiaz via Mikrotik-users" <
> mikrotik-users@wispa.org > wrote:

>> Hi David,

>> Keep in mind that most Mikrotik (Routerboard) devices support being powered 
>> via
>> POE
>> Check the specs and or the device for the specific models.

>> All of the such (Routerboard) devices can be powered via the DC power Jack as
>> well as the POE-IN port at the same time, the internal circuitry of the
>> Mikrotik will use the Higher voltage as primary power source, and the other 
>> as
>> a secondary power source.

>> Regards.

>> Faisal Imtiaz
>> Snappy Internet & Telecom
>> 7266 SW 48 Street
>> Miami, FL 33155
>> Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232

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>> - Original Message -
>> > From: "David Funderburk via Mikrotik-users" < mikrotik-users@wispa.org >
>> > To: "Mikrotik Users" < mikrotik-users@wispa.org >
>> > Sent: Wednesday, March 1, 2017 9:05:44 AM
>> > Subject: [Mikrotik Users] dual power supplies?

>> > Is there a layer 3 Mikrotik switch that has dual power supplies we can
>> > use on our core? If not, is there way to adapt a Mikrotik to use dual
>> > power supplies? And if the answer is no to all these, is there a switch
>> > you'd recommend that functions much like a Mikrotik with dual power
>> > supplies?

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Re: [Mikrotik Users] Any CCRs with PoE input or DC inputs?

[Faisal Imtiaz via Mikrotik-users]

Hmmm... I thought I had sent this earlier.. 

Apparently it did not make it thru...

This should give you some ideas...

http://shop.meconet.de/Hardware-component-parts/Accessories/DC-power-cable-for-MikroTik-CCR-CRS-25cm::116243.html?language=en

Regaards.

Faisal Imtiaz
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> From: "mike.lyon--- via Mikrotik-users" 
> To: "Mikrotik Users" 
> Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2017 7:49:01 PM
> Subject: [Mikrotik Users] Any CCRs with PoE input or DC inputs?

> Such a thing exist?
> 
> Thanks,
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Re: [Mikrotik Users] OSPF errors on router

[Faisal Imtiaz via Mikrotik-users]

Each router should have a unique router ID 

typically, best practice, is to take an IP Address (unique) and assign it to 
the Loopback interface ( a dummy bridge interface) and use that a router id in 
your OSPF instance.. 

irrespective of how many interfaces you have running OSPF, only one unique 
router id is required. 

- 
is it possible that you have created a loop where you are seeing the packets 
from the router it-self ? 

Regards. 

Faisal Imtiaz 
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> From: "Robbie Wright via Mikrotik-users" 
> To: "Mikrotik Users" 
> Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2016 11:50:36 PM
> Subject: Re: [Mikrotik Users] OSPF errors on router

> I saw this issue pop up again. The duplicate router ID thing caught me.
> We've got a main tower that has a vlan to a dozen other sites, each running an
> MT with OSPF. Each vlan has a ptp ospf interface, not broadcast, with a unique
> /30 public IP space. We only run one instance of OSPF on our main tower 
> router,
> with only one router ID.

> I'm thinking maybe the one router ID across all the vlans is causing the 
> issue?
> Functionally, everything is working fine. But our logs are blowing up with the
> "Discarding packet: locally originated" error.

> Robbie Wright
> Siuslaw Broadband
> 541-902-5101

> On Thu, Sep 17, 2015 at 10:07 AM, Steve Barnes < st...@pcswin.com > wrote:

>> Justin I think I have followed all those steps. I am using 6.29 exclusively. 
>> Is
>> there issues with that release?

>> Steve Barnes

>> General Manager

>> PCSWIN.COM

>> Howard Power Performance

>> From: mikrotik-users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto: 
>> mikrotik-users-boun...@wispa.org
>> ] On Behalf Of Justin Wilson - MTIN
>> Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2015 12:47 PM

>> To: Mikrotik Users < mikrotik-users@wispa.org >
>> Subject: Re: [Mikrotik Users] OSPF errors on router

>> Some things to make sure of before banging your head.

>> 1.Make sure *every* router participating in OSPF is on the same OS version. 
>> They
>> don’t have to be the latest greatest, just the same. one router in a pool of 
>> 50
>> can taint the database. Even if it’s one version behind of ahead.

>> 2.Make sure your loopback IP addresses (you are using loopbacks correct?) are
>> listed as the router ID.

>> 3.If these are true point-to-point backhauls change the OSPF type to PTP. 
>> This
>> cuts down on the chatter on the link. Once OSPF establishes a session it 
>> stops
>> talking as much as if it were in broadcast mode.

>> 4.Double check your IPs and subnet masks.

>> 80some% of the OSPF issues I see are a result of mismatched router OS 
>> versions.
>> Bringing everything to the same version solves a ton of issues.

>> Justin Wilson

>> j...@mtin.net

>> ---
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>>> On Sep 17, 2015, at 8:25 AM, Steve Barnes < st...@pcswin.com > wrote:

>>> Not completely. Not sure we don’t have a small Comm issue to a backhaul. 
>>> However
>>> the outages have gone away just get 2-3 errors a day but it is not causing 
>>> any
>>> OSPF issues or outages. Thinking of just adding a Filter rule to block them 
>>> and
>>> go on with life.

>>> Steve Barnes

>>> General Manager

>>> PCSWIN.COM

>>> Howard Power Performance

>>> From: mikrotik-users-boun...@wispa.org [ 
>>> mailto:mikrotik-users-boun...@wispa.org
>>> ] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett
>>> Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2015 8:14 AM
>>> To: Mikrotik Users < mikrotik-users@wispa.org >
>>> Subject: Re: [Mikrotik Users] OSPF errors on router

>>> Did you figure this out?

>>> -
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>>> http://www.ics-il.com

>>> From: "Steve Barnes" < st...@pcswin.com >
>>> To: "Mikrotik Users ( mikrotik-users@wispa.org )" < 
>>> mikrotik-users@wispa.org >
>>> Sent: Thursday, September 3, 2015 11:57:17 AM
>>> Subject: [Mikrotik Users] OSPF errors on router

>>> I am getting the attached errors in my event log on one tower. No ports are
>>> flapping on the backhaul. Both Mikrotiks are on 6.29. Both routers CPU is 
>>> <10%.
>>> As soon as this error passes they will work 100% for hours, even days. I am
>>> confused and lost. PTP conection was Broadcast and have changed to point to
>>> point. What to look at?

>>> 

>>> Steve Barnes

>>> General Manager

>>> PCSWIN.COM

>>> Howard Power Performance

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Re: [Mikrotik Users] Service tag and Trango Apex

[Faisal Imtiaz via Mikrotik-users]

I am a visual guy... i know the terms you are using to describe the setup, if 
you are running into an issue, chances are you might be thinking one thing and 
actually doing another ... 

so, how about doing a visual presentation of what you have and what you are 
trying to accomplish. 

Regards. 

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> From: "Christian Palecek via Mikrotik-users" 
> To: "Mikrotik Users" 
> Sent: Friday, September 16, 2016 12:10:49 PM
> Subject: [Mikrotik Users] Service tag and Trango Apex

> Hello,

> I am having an issue that I’m not sure which device is causing.

> I have a Trango Apex Lynx that plugs in to a Mikrotik CRS. I setup a ingress
> vlan rule that translates this port in to an untagged svlan port, but when I 
> do
> this I lose connectivity.

> The egress, vlan, and trunks are setup correctly. In fact there are two PTP 
> 820S
> that have an identical setup that work fine, and I have two trango apex’s that
> need to be on this same vlan but when adding them to the ingress rule that’s
> when I lose connectivity.

> Any help would be appreciated.

> Thanks,

> Christian Palecek

> Chief Operations Officer

> Cybernet1 Inc.

> Hamilton, MT

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Re: [Mikrotik Users] Stuck with a fail-over script using netwatch

[Faisal Imtiaz via Mikrotik-users]

if you really want to do this correctly, then look at this ... 

a bit more complicated, but very thorough... 

http://mum.mikrotik.com/presentations/US12/tomas.pdf 

Regards 

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> From: "OWS Optimum Wireless via Mikrotik-users" 
> To: "Mikrotik Users" 
> Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2016 9:35:19 PM
> Subject: [Mikrotik Users] Stuck with a fail-over script using netwatch

> Hello.
> I'm trying to create a fail-over script to prevent outage in our network. We
> have 3 WANs which are balanced with PCC. The check-gateway=ping option in 
> route
> doesn't work: sometimes the gateway (modem) is up but, is not connected to
> internet and that causes problems.

> What I'm trying to do is create a script to disable mangle rules if a line 
> goes
> out:
> - I created a static route for each WAN,

> /ip route add dst-address=8.8.8.8 gateway=GW1 distance=1
> /ip route add dst-address=8.8.4.4 gateway=GW2 distance=1
> /ip route add dst-address=OTHER gateway=GW3 distance=1

> Also have default routes for each GW with different distance: 2,3,4.
> The marked connections as well with marked routes.

> The balance works well but, can't get the netwatch tool change up/down state 
> if
> I have a default route, which is needed for DNS.

> If I even unplug one of the GW/Modem cable netwatch still have that link as 
> up.

> How can I force ping from the RB to 8.8.8.8 from/using a specific route so I 
> can
> test or disable the mangle rules via a script ?

> Please guide me to where I can get an idea or if someone here has something
> similar.

> Thanks in advanced for your time and help.

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