Re: Running 4.2? [was Re: CD files - order question]

2007-09-12 Thread Pau Amaro-Seoane
having read and understood that, you should know that for most people
-current is more than good enough to work with. I am always running
-current in my production system and do not see any major (nor minor)
problem. Well, if you want to try the vry lastest drivers of X
then you'll have to ask for them explicitly and do it all by yourself
(compile, CVS etc) instead of just downloading the kernel from a
snapshot obsd ftp server.
I know that comparisons are stupid but I am an ex linux user and I
have never seen/ had the robustness of -current in any -stable release
of the linux world...

So, if you want e.g. the newest azalia codec, don't hesitate and run
-current. It's also a nice way to support the project... this way you
help to test the driver

Cheers,

Pau

2007/9/12, Greg Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 On 9/11/07, Aaron W. Hsu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Hrm, I think this clarifies one thing...
 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
   1. Once you run a -current, you cannot go backwards.  This is repeated
  over and over in the FAQ.
   2. New features do not get moved into -stable.
 
  I was under the impression that the current snapshots were still under the 
  4.2
  heading, and as such, were not actually ahead of the 4.2 release. I guess I
  misunderstood here. Of course, I'm well aware of the particular FAQ. :-)
 
  The new features I am talking about are not the features after stable, but 
  the
  feature list that is currently listed in 4.2. Those are features that I want
  to use now, but I want to make sure that I can move easily to 4.2-STABLE 
  when
  it is released. Are you saying that there is no way for me to get the 
  features
  in 4.2 now without running -CURRENT, which will require me to reinstall (as
  opposed to upgrade) when 4.2 is released?

 If you're running recent snapshots then you are running -CURRENT and
 as Theo mentions above:

 ...but beware since -current is now ahead of what the upcoming
 release will be, and that may not be what you want -- almost a
 thousand commits have already happened to it.

 -RELEASE would have been sent to the presses awhile back and
 development continues on from 4.2.  You're past that point.  The
 options are to continue with -CURRENT or start fresh with -RELEASE.

 Greg

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Re: Strange Lock-ups with Opera?

2007-09-12 Thread Samuel Proulx
Hello,

 I have the same problem with my opera. I'm not sure what it is but it seem to 
be related to flash,  it usually happen when im trying to view myspace related 
page ( for music ) . I thought it could be sound related too..maybe it's trying 
to access sound device when it already in use by another program and it make 
opera hangs ? all this are suppositions though ... im a newbie so if someone 
else have a clever and more articulated response to that it  would be welcomed. 
 









On Sun, Sep 09, 2007 at 05:09:01PM -0500, Aaron Hsu wrote:
 Hey all,
 
 I am just wondering if anyone else here uses Opera and experiences very 
 regular freezes or lock ups? For some reason, it seems that sometimes, when I 
 start to go to a new page, the browser just becomes unresponsive and freezes 
 up.
 
 Is this related the the threading that Opera uses? Is this a known issue?
 
 
 -- 
 ((name Aaron Hsu)
  (email [EMAIL PROTECTED])
  (site http://www.aaronhsu.com;))



Re: Running 4.2? [was Re: CD files - order question]

2007-09-12 Thread Aaron W. Hsu
Pau,

Thanks for your note...

[EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
 Well, if you want to try the vry lastest drivers of X then you'll have
 to ask for them explicitly and do it all by yourself

There's one driver that I do want from that, and that's the ATI driver for the 
X1600 chipsets. However, at the time, I don't really have the ability to deal 
with random bugs, as I'm already up to my eyeballs in other things. ;-) 

Believe it or not, I due notice some stability differences between -CURRENT and 
-STABLE on the whole.

-- 
((name Aaron Hsu)
 (email/xmpp [EMAIL PROTECTED])
 (phone 703-597-7656)
 (site http://www.aaronhsu.com;))



Re: Problem with setting up printer

2007-09-12 Thread Aaron W. Hsu
Greg,

Thanks for your note...

 On 9/9/07, Aaron W. Hsu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
   This is all I have in my printcap, works fine if I use rp from apps or 
   with
   postcript files, and rptext for plain text files.
 
  Did you have to do anything special on the printer configuration? 
 
 I am so sorry.  I have a 2070 at work and a 5250 at home where I use
 OpenBSD.  AFAIK the 2070 is PCL6 only (I only use it with Windows).

I thought I would mention that I now have a theory about how I can fix this 
problem. I took a look again at the APSFilter generated printcap entries, and I 
believe I've located a problem in the way it operates. :-) In order to send the 
printer the right format of file, it relies on the `if' field, which is only 
used for rm == localhost or lp being used instead. I haven't had a chance to 
test this hypothesis yet, so I'll provide some more feedback when I do, but 
this might be a good thing to keep in mind when adding printers that are based 
on the networks.

Is there a way to define a filter for a remote printer?

I plan to test my ideas by raw dumping the output of a PCL file (which I know 
the 2070n can read) to the printer using netcat. I'll report back when I have 
results.
-- 
((name Aaron Hsu)
 (email/xmpp [EMAIL PROTECTED])
 (phone 703-597-7656)
 (site http://www.aaronhsu.com;))



Re: Strange Lock-ups with Opera?

2007-09-12 Thread Greg Thomas
On 9/11/07, Samuel Proulx [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hello,

  I have the same problem with my opera. I'm not sure what it is but it seem 
 to be related to flash,  it usually happen when im trying to view myspace 
 related page ( for music ) . I thought it could be sound related too..maybe 
 it's trying to access sound device when it already in use by another program 
 and it make opera hangs ? all this are suppositions though ... im a newbie so 
 if someone else have a clever and more articulated response to that it  would 
 be welcomed.


I don't have much to add other than I experience the same thing with
many Flash sites.

Greg



 On Sun, Sep 09, 2007 at 05:09:01PM -0500, Aaron Hsu wrote:
  Hey all,
 
  I am just wondering if anyone else here uses Opera and experiences very
  regular freezes or lock ups? For some reason, it seems that sometimes, when 
  I
  start to go to a new page, the browser just becomes unresponsive and freezes
  up.
 
  Is this related the the threading that Opera uses? Is this a known issue?
 
 


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Re: Strange Lock-ups with Opera?

2007-09-12 Thread Antoine Jacoutot
On Wednesday 12 September 2007 08:41:26 Greg Thomas wrote:
 I don't have much to add other than I experience the same thing with
 many Flash sites.

Same here only it does not happen only with flash sites.
Sometimes, just starting opera and going to google.com is enough to hang...
Never looked into it...

-- 
Antoine



Re: can carp state changes log to syslog?

2007-09-12 Thread Claer
On Tue, Sep 11 2007 at 41:12, Bryan Irvine wrote:
 I've found a couple of threads in the archive about the possibility of
 adding this feature, but can't seem to find out whether or not this is
 possible.

I think this is the patch you are looking for :
http://marc.info/?l=openbsd-miscm=118232405007254w=2



Re: CD files - order question

2007-09-12 Thread JD Bronson

At 08:17 PM 9/11/2007 -0600, Theo de Raadt wrote:

 I understand that I do not get any bootable CD for
 sparc...but do any of the CDs have the files on them that are needed
 for an install (all of the .tgz files and the cd.iso file?)

The upcoming 4.2 release will include an install42.iso file, which is
exactly what you want.


I guess what I meant to ask was that if I order the CDs (and 
therefore have earlier access than waiting for FTP - which is nice!) 
would all the needed files be on these (CDs) or will I still need to 
use FTP for the needed install files.


If the CDs totally contain anything and everything I need directly, 
then it makes sense to order them ASAP. If they dont and I need to 
rely on FTP install then ordering doesnt make any sense. In that case 
a donation would be more appropriate.


I'm sorry if I misunderstood the answer. I just dont want to waste 
the money on CDs if I still need to grab the file(s) from FTP.


-JD 



Re: CD files - order question

2007-09-12 Thread z0mbix
On 12/09/2007, JD Bronson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 At 08:17 PM 9/11/2007 -0600, Theo de Raadt wrote:
   I understand that I do not get any bootable CD for
   sparc...but do any of the CDs have the files on them that are needed
   for an install (all of the .tgz files and the cd.iso file?)
 
 The upcoming 4.2 release will include an install42.iso file, which is
 exactly what you want.

 I guess what I meant to ask was that if I order the CDs (and
 therefore have earlier access than waiting for FTP - which is nice!)
 would all the needed files be on these (CDs) or will I still need to
 use FTP for the needed install files.

 If the CDs totally contain anything and everything I need directly,
 then it makes sense to order them ASAP. If they dont and I need to
 rely on FTP install then ordering doesnt make any sense. In that case
 a donation would be more appropriate.

 I'm sorry if I misunderstood the answer. I just dont want to waste
 the money on CDs if I still need to grab the file(s) from FTP.

 -JD



that single word waste is one easy way to insult the OpenBSD Project
and community.



Question about ral max speed?

2007-09-12 Thread Sergey Prysiazhnyi
Hello,

I'm using a lot of MiniPCI ral cards in my work with OpenBSD, such as:

dmesg | g ral
ral0 at pci0 dev 16 function 0 Ralink RT2561S rev 0x00: irq 10, address 
00:1a:4d:28:e0:47
ral0: MAC/BBP RT2561C, RF RT2527

In this case I have Subj question: what is the top speed, that I can get from 
such stuff?
I'd tested different options and flags from man 4 ral, spent a lot of time on 
it, tested all the
media from the ifconfig -m ral0 list with all the mediaopt opts. The max speed 
that I'd saw being
in my office with the total distance between points about 2-3 metres is 11,8 
Mbit/sec.

Is it normal? Any dmesg? What about the max speeds that you'd ever seen on ral? 
 
Can I see smth. about 54 Mbps between 2 OpenBSD boxes? If it is yes, please, 
what stuff? Producer, vendor?

; Can anybody tell me more about chan option: values, influences, etc? Or, 
where I can read about it? 

Thank you very much for your reply.

-- 
Sergey Prysiazhnyi



Re: CD files - order question

2007-09-12 Thread The King of Norway

z0mbix wrote:

On 12/09/2007, JD Bronson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

At 08:17 PM 9/11/2007 -0600, Theo de Raadt wrote:

I understand that I do not get any bootable CD for
sparc...but do any of the CDs have the files on them that are needed
for an install (all of the .tgz files and the cd.iso file?)

The upcoming 4.2 release will include an install42.iso file, which is
exactly what you want.

I guess what I meant to ask was that if I order the CDs (and
therefore have earlier access than waiting for FTP - which is nice!)
would all the needed files be on these (CDs) or will I still need to
use FTP for the needed install files.

If the CDs totally contain anything and everything I need directly,
then it makes sense to order them ASAP. If they dont and I need to
rely on FTP install then ordering doesnt make any sense. In that case
a donation would be more appropriate.

I'm sorry if I misunderstood the answer. I just dont want to waste
the money on CDs if I still need to grab the file(s) from FTP.

-JD




that single word waste is one easy way to insult the OpenBSD Project
and community.




JD said that he'd rather make a donation than buy discs that would be 
a waste of money (both for him and the OpenBSD project since those 
discs aren't free to produce).


That seems like a very commendable attitude. At least, I don't find it 
insulting in any way.


Sean.



Sun Netra Disk Arrays

2007-09-12 Thread Edd Barrett
Hi there,

I'm just looking at some disk arrays on ebay, the netra range from sun
are reasonably priced. For example the Netra st D130.

Has anyone tried using this kind of thing with OpenBSD? The official
way to configure these kits is via the SSM software for solaris. Is
there a way to do this with bioctl or some other tool in OpenBSD, or
will I be limited to straight forward non-raid disk access?

Thanks

-- 
Best Regards

Edd

---
http://students.dec.bournemouth.ac.uk/ebarrett



Re: CD files - order question

2007-09-12 Thread J.D. Bronson

At 06:01 AM 09/12/2007, The King of Norway wrote:
JD said that he'd rather make a donation than buy discs that would 
be a waste of money (both for him and the OpenBSD project since 
those discs aren't free to produce).


That seems like a very commendable attitude. At least, I don't find 
it insulting in any way.


Sean.


Thanks Sean. That was my point. I have donated 2-3x so far in the 
past and typically prefer that over buying CDs. At least 100% of my 
funds go direct to Theo and/or the team vs some of the money going 
towards CD production.


-JD 



Re: CD files - order question

2007-09-12 Thread Maurice Janssen
On Wednesday, September 12, 2007 at 05:27:49 -0500, JD Bronson wrote:
I guess what I meant to ask was that if I order the CDs (and 
therefore have earlier access than waiting for FTP - which is nice!) 
would all the needed files be on these (CDs) or will I still need to 
use FTP for the needed install files.

If you want to install 4.2 on a sparc, than you will have to wait for
the files to appear on the FTP-servers.

(Or try to build a 4.2-release with the source code from the CD's on a
sparc running 4.1 or -current, but that's not guaranteed to work.)

Maurice



Re: Sun Netra Disk Arrays

2007-09-12 Thread Stuart Henderson
On 2007/09/12 12:09, Edd Barrett wrote:
 I'm just looking at some disk arrays on ebay, the netra range from sun
 are reasonably priced. For example the Netra st D130.

that one is just a disk box/psu (maybe also ses, I don't remember
and mine had to go on a customer Windows box in a hurry so I can't
check)

you need a separate raid controller (mpi?), or use softraid
or raidframe.



Looking for something similar to screen-command

2007-09-12 Thread Jon Sjöstedt
Hello all!

I have installed BitTorrent-4.2.2 on my 3.9-box. With this i would like to
start file sharing on a console, logout, login later and reattach to the
console of the BitTorrent-4.2.2 session. AFAIK this is done in most
Linux-distros using the command screen, but how can I do it in BSD?

Any help appreciated


Jon Sjvstedt



Re: Sun Netra Disk Arrays

2007-09-12 Thread mickey
On Wed, Sep 12, 2007 at 12:09:50PM +0100, Edd Barrett wrote:
 Hi there,
 
 I'm just looking at some disk arrays on ebay, the netra range from sun
 are reasonably priced. For example the Netra st D130.
 
 Has anyone tried using this kind of thing with OpenBSD? The official
 way to configure these kits is via the SSM software for solaris. Is
 there a way to do this with bioctl or some other tool in OpenBSD, or
 will I be limited to straight forward non-raid disk access?

it;s just a plain scsi box.
all three drives show up as plain devices on the host scsi bus.
thus in conjunction w/ netra t1 one gets 5-drives (or 8 w/ two
of those d130 thingies) on one scsi bus.
quite good for a software raid thingie...
cu
-- 
paranoic mickey   (my employers have changed but, the name has remained)



Re: Looking for something similar to screen-command

2007-09-12 Thread Jake Conk
You use screen as well :-P

On 9/12/07, Jake Conk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 You use screen as well :-P

 On 9/12/07, Jon SjC6stedt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Hello all!
 
  I have installed BitTorrent-4.2.2 on my 3.9-box. With this i would like to
  start file sharing on a console, logout, login later and reattach to the
  console of the BitTorrent-4.2.2 session. AFAIK this is done in most
  Linux-distros using the command screen, but how can I do it in BSD?
 
  Any help appreciated
 
  
  Jon Sjvstedt



Re: Looking for something similar to screen-command

2007-09-12 Thread Woodchuck
On Wed, 12 Sep 2007, Jon Sjvstedt wrote:

 Hello all!

 I have installed BitTorrent-4.2.2 on my 3.9-box. With this i would like to
 start file sharing on a console, logout, login later and reattach to the
 console of the BitTorrent-4.2.2 session. AFAIK this is done in most
 Linux-distros using the command screen, but how can I do it in BSD?

 Any help appreciated

 
 Jon Sjvstedt

Well, you could use screen ;-)

It's in the ports (/usr/ports/misc/screen) or you could add it
with pkg_add.

Dave



Re: Looking for something similar to screen-command

2007-09-12 Thread Cezary Morga
 I have installed BitTorrent-4.2.2 on my 3.9-box. With this i would like to
 start file sharing on a console, logout, login later and reattach to the
 console of the BitTorrent-4.2.2 session. AFAIK this is done in most
 Linux-distros using the command screen, but how can I do it in BSD?

Use screen as well:
pkg_add screen

-- 
Cezary Morga



Re: Looking for something similar to screen-command

2007-09-12 Thread Hannah Schroeter
Hi!

On Wed, Sep 12, 2007 at 01:50:00PM +0200, Jon Sjvstedt wrote:
Hello all!

I have installed BitTorrent-4.2.2 on my 3.9-box. With this i would like to
start file sharing on a console, logout, login later and reattach to the
console of the BitTorrent-4.2.2 session. AFAIK this is done in most
Linux-distros using the command screen, but how can I do it in BSD?

Any help appreciated

How about using screen?

Kind regards,

Hannah.



Re: Looking for something similar to screen-command

2007-09-12 Thread Paul de Weerd
On Wed, Sep 12, 2007 at 01:50:00PM +0200, Jon Sj?stedt wrote:
| Hello all!
|
| I have installed BitTorrent-4.2.2 on my 3.9-box. With this i would like to
| start file sharing on a console, logout, login later and reattach to the
| console of the BitTorrent-4.2.2 session. AFAIK this is done in most
| Linux-distros using the command screen, but how can I do it in BSD?

You've installed BitTorrent-4.2.2. Easiest way is to also install
screen and use that (since from your post it seems that you already
know it).

Might I suggest to upgrade your machine in the mean time ? You're
running 3.9 while 4.2 is on the brink of being released.

Cheers,

Paul 'WEiRD' de Weerd

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Re: Looking for something similar to screen-command

2007-09-12 Thread Sunnz
Can't you just install screen?

pkg_add -iv screen

??

2007/9/12, Jon SjC6stedt [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 Hello all!

 I have installed BitTorrent-4.2.2 on my 3.9-box. With this i would like to
 start file sharing on a console, logout, login later and reattach to the
 console of the BitTorrent-4.2.2 session. AFAIK this is done in most
 Linux-distros using the command screen, but how can I do it in BSD?

 Any help appreciated

 
 Jon Sjvstedt




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Setting up ccd RAID 1 Howto OpenBSD 4.1

2007-09-12 Thread Jake Conk
Hello,

I've searched hi and low for hours on how to setup my system of a RAID
1 and basically what it comes down to is ccd and/or Raid Frame. I've
found helpful docs on using some of the commands and where to put my
configurations but nothing seems complete enough for me to figure it
out.

I have OpenBSD 4.1 installed on one disk and I have an exact duplicate
disk where i want to mirror my installation to incase of disk failure.
If this needs to be setup during install I'm willing reinstall
everything or if there is a way to configure my disks for ccd and
mirror them to the second disk then I'm willing to do that also.

Basically I don't know how to get this ball rolling, I've read 1) I
must change the disk type with disk label to ccd. Then 2) create ccd0
with ccdconfig and tell it to mirror disk 1 to disk 2. It then 3)
finally says to put my configuration into ccd.conf so that it can be
read in on boot by my system and of course put the stuff in fstab to
have it mounted on boot but thats all I know, everything is very vague
and no exact details on how to do this step by step with a new install
or a already running system.

Can someone please help provide a step by step way to mirror my whole
disk to a second disk by ressetting back up OpenBSD from scratch or if
possible configure my already installed system? I don't care if its
with ccd or another tool as long as I have a disk failover solution.


Please Please Please and Thanks!
- Jake



Re: Looking for something similar to screen-command

2007-09-12 Thread Nico Meijer
Hi Jon,

 I have installed BitTorrent-4.2.2 on my 3.9-box.

Eek. Upgrade. :-)

http://openbsd.alphix.se/faq/upgrade40.html
http://openbsd.alphix.se/faq/upgrade41.html

 With this i would like
 to start file sharing on a console, logout, login later and reattach to
 the console of the BitTorrent-4.2.2 session. AFAIK this is done in most
 Linux-distros using the command screen, but how can I do it in BSD?

With screen? ;-)

http://openbsd.alphix.se/faq/faq15.html

It could be as simple as `sudo pkg_add -i screen` if you've set the
PKG_PATH environment variable.

HTH and good luck... Nico



Re: Looking for something similar to screen-command

2007-09-12 Thread Jon Sjöstedt
Ok, thanks! Please dont kill me any more!:)
 You use screen as well :-P

 On 9/12/07, Jon Sjvstedt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hello all!

 I have installed BitTorrent-4.2.2 on my 3.9-box. With this i would like to
 start file sharing on a console, logout, login later and reattach to
the console of the BitTorrent-4.2.2 session. AFAIK this is done in most
Linux-distros using the command screen, but how can I do it in BSD?

 Any help appreciated

 
 Jon Sjvstedt










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Re: Looking for something similar to screen-command

2007-09-12 Thread Will Maier
On Wed, Sep 12, 2007 at 01:50:00PM +0200, Jon Sjostedt wrote:
 I have installed BitTorrent-4.2.2 on my 3.9-box. With this i would like to
 start file sharing on a console, logout, login later and reattach to the
 console of the BitTorrent-4.2.2 session. AFAIK this is done in most
 Linux-distros using the command screen, but how can I do it in BSD?

You can install the screen package?

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Re: how get colour mutt when ssh from OBSD?

2007-09-12 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Wed, Sep 12, 2007 at 07:55:27AM +0200, Pau Amaro-Seoane wrote:
 yes, I tried this before I posted here but no way... it's not working
 in my case... mmmh... thanks anyway

Did you use TERM=screen on both ends of the ssh, i.e. on OBSD before ssh
and on linux after ssh?

 
 
 
  Try TERM=screen.  I didn't know about the backspace to scroll up; I just
  use page up.  I just tried it and yes it works with TERM=screen.
 
  Note that I can't use TERM=xterm* since I'm not using X for this.
 
  Doug.



Re: Setting up ccd RAID 1 Howto OpenBSD 4.1

2007-09-12 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Wed, Sep 12, 2007 at 04:53:29AM -0700, Jake Conk wrote:
 
 I have OpenBSD 4.1 installed on one disk and I have an exact duplicate
 disk where i want to mirror my installation to incase of disk failure.
 If this needs to be setup during install I'm willing reinstall
 everything or if there is a way to configure my disks for ccd and
 mirror them to the second disk then I'm willing to do that also.
 
 Basically I don't know how to get this ball rolling

I'm very new to OBSD and BSDs in general, coming from Debian Linux
(which now does raid1 from the installer).  I notice that both OBSD and
NetBSD use raidframe and ccd.  The NetBSD FAQ has a chapter on setting
up raidframe for root raid1.  Perhaps it would give some direction.  I
do not know if it is the correct approach for OBSD.

Doug.



Re: how get colour mutt when ssh from OBSD?

2007-09-12 Thread Pau Amaro-Seoane
yes... it doesn't help

I thought left-clicking on the xterm, and selecting Backarrow Key
(BS/DEL) would do it, and afterwards typing `stty erase ` and then
ctrl-v and then hitting backspace and enter...

but that's only for xterm. What, if you're using a different terminal,
like aterm, eterm, konsole or gnome-terminal? you don't have that
menu...

I also saw this... but... don't know...

http://www.hypexr.org/linux_roboff.php


 Did you use TERM=screen on both ends of the ssh, i.e. on OBSD before ssh
 and on linux after ssh?

 
 
  
   Try TERM=screen.  I didn't know about the backspace to scroll up; I just
   use page up.  I just tried it and yes it works with TERM=screen.
  
   Note that I can't use TERM=xterm* since I'm not using X for this.
  
   Doug.



Sparc64 Panic -current : Caused by PGX64 graphics card

2007-09-12 Thread Edd Barrett
Hi,

I bought a PGX64 graphics card hoping to have accelerated X on my sun
blade 1000. Unfortunately it cause a panic. Here's the details:

---8---
SUNW,Sun-Blade-1000 (UltraSPARC-III) , No Keyboard
Copyright 1998-2004 Sun Microsystems, Inc.  All rights reserved.
OpenBoot 4.16.4, 1024 MB memory installed, Serial #51383914.
Ethernet address 0:3:ba:10:e:6a, Host ID: 83100e6a.

ok boot
Boot device: /[EMAIL PROTECTED],60/SUNW,[EMAIL PROTECTED]/[EMAIL 
PROTECTED],0/[EMAIL PROTECTED],0:a
 File and args:
OpenBSD IEEE 1275 Bootblock 1.1
.. OpenBSD BOOT 1.2
Trying bsd...
Booting /[EMAIL PROTECTED],60/SUNW,[EMAIL PROTECTED]/[EMAIL 
PROTECTED],0/[EMAIL PROTECTED],0:a/bsd
[EMAIL PROTECTED]@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
symbols @ 0xfef52240 52+305568+184378 start=0x100
[ using 490584 bytes of bsd ELF symbol table ]
console is /[EMAIL PROTECTED],70/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/[EMAIL 
PROTECTED],40:a
Copyright (c) 1982, 1986, 1989, 1991, 1993
The Regents of the University of California.  All rights reserved.
Copyright (c) 1995-2007 OpenBSD. All rights reserved.  http://www.OpenBSD.org

OpenBSD 4.2-current (GENERIC) #0: Tue Sep 11 14:16:19 BST 2007
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/src/sys/arch/sparc64/compile/GENERIC
real mem = 1073741824 (1024MB)
avail mem = 1027866624 (980MB)
mainbus0 at root: SUNW,Sun-Blade-1000 (UltraSPARC-III)
cpu0 at mainbus0: SUNW,UltraSPARC-III (rev 5.14) @ 900 MHz
cpu0: physical 32K instruction (32 b/l), 64K data (32 b/l), 8192K
external (512 b/l)
memory-controller at mainbus0 not configured
schizo0 at mainbus0: Schizo, version 4, ign 200, bus B 0 to 0
schizo0: dvma map c000-, iotdb 1bec000-1cec000
pci0 at schizo0
ebus0 at pci0 dev 5 function 0 Sun RIO EBus rev 0x01
flashprom at ebus0 addr 0-1f not configured
pcfiic0 at ebus0 addr 2e-2f, 2d-2d ipl 35
iic0 at pcfiic0
bbc0 at ebus0 addr 0-f
ppm0 at ebus0 addr e-28, 728000-728003, 30002e-30002f, 300600-300607
pcfiic1 at ebus0 addr 30-31 ipl 35
iic1 at pcfiic1
admtemp0 at iic1 addr 0x18: max1617
tda8444 at iic1 addr 0x24 not configured
scm001 at iic1 addr 0x20 not configured
firei at iic1 addr 0x30 not configured
beep at ebus0 addr 32-37 not configured
audioce0 at ebus0 addr 20-2000ff, 702000-70200f, 704000-70400f,
722000-722003 ipl 32 ipl 33: nvaddrs 0
audio0 at audioce0
rtc0 at ebus0 addr 300070-300071 ipl 36: ds1287
gpio at ebus0 addr 300600-300607 not configured
pmc0 at ebus0 addr 300700-300701
floppy at ebus0 addr 3023f0-3023f7, 706000-70600f, 72-720003 ipl
37 not configured
lpt0 at ebus0 addr 300278-300287, 30002e-30002f, 70-7f ipl 28:
polled
sab0 at ebus0 addr 40-40007f ipl 34: rev 3.2
sabtty0 at sab0 port 0: console i/o
sabtty1 at sab0 port 1
gem0 at pci0 dev 5 function 1 Sun ERI Ether rev 0x01: ivec 0x21d,
address 00:03:ba:10:0e:6a
luphy0 at gem0 phy 1: LU6612 10/100 PHY, rev. 1
Sun FireWire rev 0x01 at pci0 dev 5 function 2 not configured
ohci0 at pci0 dev 5 function 3 Sun USB rev 0x01: ivec 0x21f, version
1.0, legacy support
siop0 at pci0 dev 6 function 0 Symbios Logic 53c875 rev 0x37: ivec
0x218, using 4K of on-board RAM
scsibus0 at siop0: 16 targets
siop1 at pci0 dev 6 function 1 Symbios Logic 53c875 rev 0x37: ivec
0x219, using 4K of on-board RAM
scsibus1 at siop1: 16 targets
vgafb0 at pci0 dev 2 function 0 ATI Rage XL rev 0x27
schizo0: pci bus B error
PCIAFSR=82ff2000PMA,SMA,MEM
PCIAFAR=200
PCICTRL=e010a003fESLCK,MMU_INT,EEN
PCICSR=22800146MEM,MASTER,PARITY,SERR,BACK2BACK_STAT,DEVSEL_MEDIUM,MASTER_ABORT
panic: schizo0: fatal
kdb breakpoint at 137f180
Stopped at  Debugger+0x4:   nop
schizo_pci_error(4ebfe00, d, e0017ec8, f, 1352460, 0) at schizo_pci_error+0
x1b8
sparc_interrupt(400010f0870, 57, 8, 1292a20, 1292620, 1292900) at sparc_interru
pt+0x20c
rasops_reconfig(400010f0870, 22, 50, 1, 2, 2) at rasops_reconfig+0x328
rasops_init(400010f0870, 22, 50, 0, 400010f0a08, 0) at rasops_init+0x74
fbwscons_init(400010f0800, 57, 480, 384, 480, 0) at fbwscons_init+0x90
vgafbattach(400010f0800, 1821, 1c096a0, 2, 1, 1811000) at vgafbattach+0xc4
config_attach(180a280, 400010f0800, 1c096a0, 12cb240, 2, 0) at config_attach+0x
12c
pci_probe_device(4ea7500, f00b2ff41000, 0, 0, 1, 1811000) at pci_probe_
device+0x1f4
sparc64_pci_enumerate_bus(4ea7500, 0, 0, 186d580, 1, 1811000) at sparc64_pc
i_enumerate_bus+0x318
config_attach(180a280, 4ea7500, 1c099d0, 1352a60, 4ebbe80, 234) at conf
ig_attach+0x12c
RUN AT LEAST 'trace' AND 'ps' AND INCLUDE OUTPUT WHEN REPORTING THIS PANIC!
DO NOT EVEN BOTHER REPORTING THIS WITHOUT INCLUDING THAT INFORMATION!
ddb trace
schizo_pci_error(4ebfe00, d, e0017ec8, f, 1352460, 0) at schizo_pci_error+0
x1b8
sparc_interrupt(400010f0870, 57, 8, 1292a20, 1292620, 1292900) at sparc_interru
pt+0x20c
rasops_reconfig(400010f0870, 22, 50, 1, 2, 2) at rasops_reconfig+0x328
rasops_init(400010f0870, 22, 50, 0, 400010f0a08, 0) at rasops_init+0x74
fbwscons_init(400010f0800, 57, 480, 384, 480, 0) at fbwscons_init+0x90
vgafbattach(400010f0800, 1821, 1c096a0, 

Re: Sparc64 Panic -current : Caused by PGX64 graphics card

2007-09-12 Thread Miod Vallat

I bought a PGX64 graphics card hoping to have accelerated X on my sun
blade 1000. Unfortunately it cause a panic. Here's the details:


Does it panic if you use the glass console instead of the serial console?

Miod



Re: Sparc64 Panic -current : Caused by PGX64 graphics card

2007-09-12 Thread Edd Barrett
On 12/09/2007, Miod Vallat [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I bought a PGX64 graphics card hoping to have accelerated X on my sun
  blade 1000. Unfortunately it cause a panic. Here's the details:

 Does it panic if you use the glass console instead of the serial console?

Afraid so.

I only put the serial line in so I could copy and paste it into the email.


-- 
Best Regards

Edd

---
http://students.dec.bournemouth.ac.uk/ebarrett



Re: Sparc64 Panic -current : Caused by PGX64 graphics card

2007-09-12 Thread Miod Vallat

 I bought a PGX64 graphics card hoping to have accelerated X on my sun
 blade 1000. Unfortunately it cause a panic. Here's the details:

Does it panic if you use the glass console instead of the serial console?


Afraid so.

I only put the serial line in so I could copy and paste it into the email.


Ok.

Can you, at the ok prompt, go to your frame buffer device node
(cd [EMAIL PROTECTED], cd [EMAIL PROTECTED], etc) and give me the output
of .properties (or .attributes if the former does not work)?

Miod



Re: Looking for something similar to screen-command

2007-09-12 Thread Jeremy C. Reed
On Wed, 12 Sep 2007, Jon Sjvstedt wrote:

 Ok, thanks! Please dont kill me any more!:)

Well one more:

 window(1) is something similar to screen and is included with OpenBSD:

 http://www.openbsd.org/cgi-bin/man.cgi?query=window

  You use screen as well :-P



  Jeremy C. Reed



Re: Setting up ccd RAID 1 Howto OpenBSD 4.1

2007-09-12 Thread Steve Williams

Jake Conk wrote:

Hello,

I've searched hi and low for hours on how to setup my system of a RAID
1 and basically what it comes down to is ccd and/or Raid Frame. I've
found helpful docs on using some of the commands and where to put my
configurations but nothing seems complete enough for me to figure it
out.

I have OpenBSD 4.1 installed on one disk and I have an exact duplicate
disk where i want to mirror my installation to incase of disk failure.
If this needs to be setup during install I'm willing reinstall
everything or if there is a way to configure my disks for ccd and
mirror them to the second disk then I'm willing to do that also.

Basically I don't know how to get this ball rolling, I've read 1) I
must change the disk type with disk label to ccd. Then 2) create ccd0
with ccdconfig and tell it to mirror disk 1 to disk 2. It then 3)
finally says to put my configuration into ccd.conf so that it can be
read in on boot by my system and of course put the stuff in fstab to
have it mounted on boot but thats all I know, everything is very vague
and no exact details on how to do this step by step with a new install
or a already running system.

Can someone please help provide a step by step way to mirror my whole
disk to a second disk by ressetting back up OpenBSD from scratch or if
possible configure my already installed system? I don't care if its
with ccd or another tool as long as I have a disk failover solution.


Please Please Please and Thanks!
- Jake
  

Hi,

Not for CCD, but raidframe..

Search the mailing list archives for a thread with a subject Seeking 
info for RAID 1 on OpenBSD.  In there you will find all sorts of info.


http://marc.info/?l=openbsd-miscm=116360194522004w=2

http://www.packetmischief.ca/openbsd/doc/raidadmin/

Good Luck,

Thanks,
Steve Williams



Re: Sparc64 Panic -current : Caused by PGX64 graphics card

2007-09-12 Thread Miod Vallat

I think this is the device:
/[EMAIL PROTECTED],60/SUNW,[EMAIL PROTECTED]


Correct.


reg  0800    
 02000810    0100
 02000818    1000
 02000830    0002



linebytes0480
depth0008
height   0384
width0480



Does this help?


Yes and no; I was wondering if the memory regions were, for some reason,
not consistent with the reported geometry, but everything looks correct.

This (conveniently) looks like a schizo issue to me at the moment.

Miod



Re: Sparc64 Panic -current : Caused by PGX64 graphics card

2007-09-12 Thread Edd Barrett
Hi,

On 12/09/2007, Miod Vallat [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   I bought a PGX64 graphics card hoping to have accelerated X on my sun
   blade 1000. Unfortunately it cause a panic. Here's the details:
 
  Does it panic if you use the glass console instead of the serial console?
 
  Afraid so.
 
  I only put the serial line in so I could copy and paste it into the email.

 Ok.

 Can you, at the ok prompt, go to your frame buffer device node
 (cd [EMAIL PROTECTED], cd [EMAIL PROTECTED], etc) and give me the output
 of .properties (or .attributes if the former does not work)?

 Miod



I think this is the device:
/[EMAIL PROTECTED],60/SUNW,[EMAIL PROTECTED]

assigned-addresses   82000810  0100  0100
 81000814  0400  0100
 82000818  00102000  2000
 82000830  0014  0002
aty,fcode1.69
aty,card#109-X-XX
aty,rom# 113-X-100
aty,modelATY,RageXL
modelSUNW,370-4362
name SUNW,m64B
pgx_version  @(#) pgx64.fth 1.12 01/05/04
reg  0800    
 02000810    0100
 02000818    1000
 02000830    0002
character-setISO8859-1
device_type  display
linebytes0480
v-freq   0042
depth0008
height   0384
width0480
fb-memory0008
aty,flags
aty,status   0004
fcode-rom-offset 
fast-back-to-back
devsel-speed 0001
class-code   0003
interrupts   0001
latency-timer0040
cache-line-size  0010
max-latency  
min-grant0008
revision-id  0027
device-id4752
vendor-id1002

Does this help?

-- 
Best Regards

Edd

---
http://students.dec.bournemouth.ac.uk/ebarrett



Re: Sparc64 Panic -current : Caused by PGX64 graphics card

2007-09-12 Thread Edd Barrett
On 12/09/2007, Miod Vallat [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Yes and no; I was wondering if the memory regions were, for some reason,
 not consistent with the reported geometry, but everything looks correct.

 This (conveniently) looks like a schizo issue to me at the moment.

Ok well, I have access to this box during working hours, so if you
would like any other information, don't hesitate to drop me mail.

Keep me posted!

Cheers

-- 
Best Regards

Edd

---
http://students.dec.bournemouth.ac.uk/ebarrett



Re: Setting up ccd RAID 1 Howto OpenBSD 4.1

2007-09-12 Thread nicodache
I personnaly used the following doc to set up my software raid 1 frame :
http://www.linux.com/articles/52713

good luck :)

On 9/12/07, Steve Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Jake Conk wrote:
  Hello,
 
  I've searched hi and low for hours on how to setup my system of a RAID
  1 and basically what it comes down to is ccd and/or Raid Frame. I've
  found helpful docs on using some of the commands and where to put my
  configurations but nothing seems complete enough for me to figure it
  out.
 
  I have OpenBSD 4.1 installed on one disk and I have an exact duplicate
  disk where i want to mirror my installation to incase of disk failure.
  If this needs to be setup during install I'm willing reinstall
  everything or if there is a way to configure my disks for ccd and
  mirror them to the second disk then I'm willing to do that also.
 
  Basically I don't know how to get this ball rolling, I've read 1) I
  must change the disk type with disk label to ccd. Then 2) create ccd0
  with ccdconfig and tell it to mirror disk 1 to disk 2. It then 3)
  finally says to put my configuration into ccd.conf so that it can be
  read in on boot by my system and of course put the stuff in fstab to
  have it mounted on boot but thats all I know, everything is very vague
  and no exact details on how to do this step by step with a new install
  or a already running system.
 
  Can someone please help provide a step by step way to mirror my whole
  disk to a second disk by ressetting back up OpenBSD from scratch or if
  possible configure my already installed system? I don't care if its
  with ccd or another tool as long as I have a disk failover solution.
 
 
  Please Please Please and Thanks!
  - Jake
 
 Hi,

 Not for CCD, but raidframe..

 Search the mailing list archives for a thread with a subject Seeking
 info for RAID 1 on OpenBSD.  In there you will find all sorts of info.

 http://marc.info/?l=openbsd-miscm=116360194522004w=2

 http://www.packetmischief.ca/openbsd/doc/raidadmin/

 Good Luck,

 Thanks,
 Steve Williams



VMware releases the sources of VMware tools

2007-09-12 Thread Martin Schröder
VMware is announcing the release of large portions of VMware Tools
for Linux, Solaris and FreeBSD guests under GPL and GPL-compatible
licenses. VMware is also announcing the creation of the Open Virtual
Machine Tools (open-vm-tools) project on Sourceforge.net. This will
become the home for ongoing development.

http://open-vm-tools.sourceforge.net/faq.php

Yes, it's GPL and not BSD. But maybe in the future an OBSD client
won't need FreeBSD emulation.

Best
   Martin



Re: Question about ral max speed?

2007-09-12 Thread Daniel Melameth
On 9/12/07, Sergey Prysiazhnyi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I'm using a lot of MiniPCI ral cards in my work with OpenBSD, such as:

 dmesg | g ral
 ral0 at pci0 dev 16 function 0 Ralink RT2561S rev 0x00: irq 10, address 
 00:1a:4d:28:e0:47
 ral0: MAC/BBP RT2561C, RF RT2527

 In this case I have Subj question: what is the top speed, that I can get from 
 such stuff?

If you're lucky, perhaps a bit more than half of the theoretical speed.

 I'd tested different options and flags from man 4 ral, spent a lot of time on 
 it, tested all the
 media from the ifconfig -m ral0 list with all the mediaopt opts. The max 
 speed that I'd saw being
 in my office with the total distance between points about 2-3 metres is 11,8 
 Mbit/sec.

 Is it normal? Any dmesg? What about the max speeds that you'd ever seen on 
 ral?

I'd say it's a bit low.  I've seem my maximum sustained throughput at
~22Mb/s, but it usually operates at ~19Mb/s--and I imagine this might
be a bit higher if I didn't use WEP.  I use ral for hostap purposes
and the relevant portion of my current hardware is:

ral0 at cardbus1 dev 0 function 0: irq 10, address 00:14:a5:33:31:c7
ral0: MAC/BBP RT2661B, RF RT2529 (MIMO XR)

 Can I see smth. about 54 Mbps between 2 OpenBSD boxes? If it is yes, please, 
 what stuff? Producer, vendor?

I doubt you will ever see true 54Mb/s using 802.11g or 802.11a under any OS.

 ; Can anybody tell me more about chan option: values, influences, etc? Or, 
 where I can read about it?

I can't say much outside of making certain the channel you're using is
not being used by someone else.



Re: Question about ral max speed?

2007-09-12 Thread Stuart Henderson
On 2007/09/12 09:43, Daniel Melameth wrote:
 I doubt you will ever see true 54Mb/s using 802.11g or 802.11a under any OS.

You will not; that is the data rate transmitted by the radio,
which is quoted before protocol overheads are taken into account.



Qemu + auich = sound ?

2007-09-12 Thread Allie D.
Can anyone give me a hint how to get sound working in Qemu ? I'm running
an X31 and am starting -soundhw all but I don't think it covers my sound
hardware. The precompiled 4.1 package has:

pcspk   PC speaker
sb16Creative Sound Blaster 16
es1370  ENSONIQ AudioPCI ES1370

But my sound device is an auich. Anyone get sound working for an auich
device ?



Re: Qemu + auich = sound ?

2007-09-12 Thread Allie D.
On Wed, September 12, 2007 10:18, Chris Kuethe wrote:
 I'm gonna take a wild guess and say
 a) those are the emulated soundcards qemu can present to the guest OS, and
 b) qemu should just be able to do OSS audio to the host OS.
It's not working out of the box. I'm gonna try and build from ports and
see if I can get it to work.

 never tried audio though... *shrug*

 On 9/12/07, Allie D. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Can anyone give me a hint how to get sound working in Qemu ? I'm running
 an X31 and am starting -soundhw all but I don't think it covers my sound
 hardware. The precompiled 4.1 package has:

 pcspk   PC speaker
 sb16Creative Sound Blaster 16
 es1370  ENSONIQ AudioPCI ES1370

 But my sound device is an auich. Anyone get sound working for an auich
 device ?




 --
 GDB has a 'break' feature; why doesn't it have 'fix' too?



unix on lenovos

2007-09-12 Thread Pau Amaro-Seoane
Hi,

there's a poll about which linux (please read here UNIX) you'd like
to see preinstalled/supported on the lenovos thinkpads

 http://lenovoblogs.com/insidethebox/?p=98

You'll notice that Mark Kohut (Lenovo's worldwide analyst) cannot tell
the difference between linux and BSD (both freebsd and openbsd fall in
the category of linux) but, in any case, maybe you feel like
clicking the OpenBSD entry... I did

Cheers,

Pau Amaro-Seoane



AMD Releases 900+ Pages Of GPU Specs

2007-09-12 Thread Tony Lambiris
http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_itempx=NjA1Mw

Thoughts?



Re: unstable and multiple reboot for 4.2 on Sun X4100 M2 with ACPI enable on AMD64 bsd.mp with SAS RAID 1 setup.

2007-09-12 Thread Rolf Sommerhalder
I did observe similar behaviour on four X4100 M2 as well (two with one
socket dual-core, two with two sockets dual-core Opterons) using amd64
bsd.mp snapshots from 23 and 28 Aug..

Currently, amd64 bsd.mp snapshot 28. Aug is running stable on those
four servers, although using a single SAS disk without RAID.

Several days ago, there was a commit in kernel CVS about delaying
start of IPMI which is causing annoying delays at startup of amd64.
Eventually, a more recent snapshot becomes available which includes
this modification, before I get around to build a -current kernel.

Rolf



Re: comics and recurring donations Was: Show your appreciation and get your 4.2 DVD

2007-09-12 Thread Tobias Weingartner
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Craig Brozefsky wrote:
 
  /me raids refrigerator for leftover curried rice...

Curried rice!  Hmm... gotta get me some new spices...

-- 
 [100~Plax]sb16i0A2172656B63616820636420726568746F6E61207473754A[dZ1!=b]salax



Re: unstable and multiple reboot for 4.2 on Sun X4100 M2 with ACPI enable on AMD64 bsd.mp with SAS RAID 1 setup.

2007-09-12 Thread Daniel Ouellet

Rolf Sommerhalder wrote:

I did observe similar behaviour on four X4100 M2 as well (two with one
socket dual-core, two with two sockets dual-core Opterons) using amd64
bsd.mp snapshots from 23 and 28 Aug..

Currently, amd64 bsd.mp snapshot 28. Aug is running stable on those
four servers, although using a single SAS disk without RAID.


You said same action above for 23  28, and here you say stable for 28? 
However, I have it unstable for the 28 for sure.



Several days ago, there was a commit in kernel CVS about delaying
start of IPMI which is causing annoying delays at startup of amd64.
Eventually, a more recent snapshot becomes available which includes
this modification, before I get around to build a -current kernel.



I justed look now on the site and the latest snapshots was done just a 
few hours ago:


ftp ls pub/OpenBSD/snapshots/amd64/bsd.mp
227 Entering Passive Mode (129,128,5,191,167,61)
150 Have a Gorilla.
-r--r--r--1 1114 1114  6708422 Sep 11 23:14 bsd.mp
226 There, everyone likes a Gorilla.
ftp

So, I am not sure what testing you did, unless you built your own. new 
Snapshots was just release now, witch I will be happy to test tonight 
and see the results and report back.


Thanks

Daniel



Further developments regarding the Atheros driver

2007-09-12 Thread Theo de Raadt
Reyk and I have decided to show something from the private handling of
this Atheros copyright violation issue. It has been like pulling teeth
since (most) Linux wireless guys and the SFLC do not wish to admit
fault.  I think that the Linux wireless guys should really think hard
about this problem, how they look, and the legal risks they place upon
the future of their source code bodies.  There are lessons to be
learned here -- be cautious because there is no such thing this
relicensing meme that your user community spreads.

In their zeal to get the code under their own license, some of these
Linux wireless developers have broken copryright law repeatedly.  But
to even get to the point where they broke copyright law, they had to
bypass a whole series of ethical considerations too.

I believe these people have received bogus advice from Eben Moglen
regarding how copyright law actually works in a global setting.
Perhaps the internationally based developers should rethink their
approach of taking advice from a US-based lawyer who apparently knows
nothing about the Berne Convention.  Furthermore, those developers are
getting advice freely from ex-FSF people who have formed an agency
with an agenda.  Some have suggested that the SFLC was formed to avoid
smearing the FSF with dirt whenever the SFLC does something risky.
Don't get trampled; there could be penalties besides looking unethical
and guilty.  Be really cautious, especially with things like this
coming to mess with our communities:
http://www.linux-watch.com/news/NS8560536106.html

Below, you can find a mail was sent by me (in consultation with Reyk)
on Sep 5 to various people in the Linux wireless developer community
and their advisors in the SFLC.  Inside that message, you can find
another message from Sep 1 that they never replied to.

On Sep 5 there was finally a reply from Eben Moglen, but it added
nothing constructive to the process, except that Eben Moglen admitted
that the Linux developer's had done an Adaptation; I will show one
particular sub-sentence from Eben's reply mail:

we wish to secure as much of the work done to adapt Reyk's
code for use with the Linux kernel as the authors will
permit, [...]

I don't think Eben wanted to say that.  In copyright law, the word
adapt has a very clear meaning.

From our perspective, we see the SFLC giving bad advice three times to
(some subset of) the Linux wireless developers (who they call their
clients, after apparently more than a year of consultation):

The first advice given by the SFLC resulted in Luis, Jiri, and Nick
simply replacing Reyk's ISC license with the GPL around large parts of
Reyk's code in various repositories.  (Let us not concern ourselves
with Sam's code for now).  That occurred roughly around August 25.
Our developers have cloned those public/published repositories, though
some of them have now been taken offline by the developers who
operated them.

The second advice given by the SFLC was that a GPL can be wrapped
around another author's work.  That advice was re-posted by John
Linville on Sep 5 at http://lwn.net/Articles/248223/ but it
unfortunately says nothing about _when_ an author of a derivative
receives the right to do such a thing.  The SFLC waives that concern
away.  But that is the clincher -- by law, a new person doing small
changes to an original work is not allowed to assert copyright, and
hence, gains none of the rights given by copyright law, and hence,
cannot assert a license (copyright licenses surrender a subset of the
author's rights which the law gives them; the licenses do not not
assert rights out of thin air).

You can see this 'relicensing approach' is still published in files in
the repository at http://madwifi.org/browser/branches/ath5k, for
instance see http://madwifi.org/browser/branches/ath5k/ath5k_phy.c.
This repository has also been cloned by some of our developers to show
proof of publishing.

Then my mail (shown below) arrived at the SFLC.  There has been one
reply from Eben to that mail, as noted above.  Naturally I am tempted
to show more mails...

It appears that the mail I sent had some effect; because it seems that
the developers received new advice from SFLC -- a third approach.
Linville did not even follow what he re-posted from the SFLC on the
5th, but took an even more conservative approach.  The Linville
repository replaced Jiri's repository (which Jiri disconnected), and
all of Reyk's original work now appeared with only an ISC license as
Reyk had it.  In this case Nick and Jiri have been added as co-owners
of the copyright, though.


http://git.kernel.org/?p=linux/kernel/git/linville/wireless-dev.git;a=blob;f=drivers/n%20%5Cet/wireless/ath5k_hw.c;h=07ad1278b39037caf68825cabcf9469db059dfc8;hb=everything


http://git.kernel.org/?p=linux/kernel/git/linville/wireless-dev.git;a=tree;f=drivers/n%20\et/wireless;h=2d6caeba0924c34b9539960b9ab568ab3d193fc8;hb=everything

Those files are still invalidly being distributed 

Re: unstable and multiple reboot for 4.2 on Sun X4100 M2 with ACPI enable on AMD64 bsd.mp with SAS RAID 1 setup.

2007-09-12 Thread Tobias Weingartner
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Daniel Ouellet wrote:
 
  So, I am not sure what testing you did, unless you built your own. new 
  Snapshots was just release now, witch I will be happy to test tonight 
  and see the results and report back.

If you guys could test out my ACPI diff I posted to tech@, that may help.

-Toby.
-- 
 [100~Plax]sb16i0A2172656B63616820636420726568746F6E61207473754A[dZ1!=b]salax



Re: Question about ral max speed?

2007-09-12 Thread Karsten McMinn
On 9/12/07, Stuart Henderson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On 2007/09/12 09:43, Daniel Melameth wrote:
  I doubt you will ever see true 54Mb/s using 802.11g or 802.11a under any OS.

 You will not; that is the data rate transmitted by the radio,
 which is quoted before protocol overheads are taken into account.

802.11g has about 50% radio overhead, slower speeds have less.



Re: Question about ral max speed?

2007-09-12 Thread Christian Weisgerber
Sergey Prysiazhnyi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Is it normal? Any dmesg? What about the max speeds that you'd ever seen
 on ral?  
 Can I see smth. about 54 Mbps between 2 OpenBSD boxes? If it is yes,
 please, what stuff? Producer, vendor?

The maximum real world speed I see on my .11g WLAN--Linksys WAP54G
access points, OpenBSD clients with ral(4) and iwi(4)--is about 1.8
Mbyte/s for scp(1) over an IPsec ESP tunnel.

Don't forget that the 54 Mbit/s figure is the raw radio speed and
we are dealing with a shared medium, which means data exchanges are
half-duplex, and there's already a hidden send/acknowledge ping-pong
protocol running at the MAC layer.

-- 
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Re: unstable and multiple reboot for 4.2 on Sun X4100 M2 with ACPI enable on AMD64 bsd.mp with SAS RAID 1 setup.

2007-09-12 Thread Daniel Ouellet

Here is the new dmesg for current.

So far the boot process is much faster and do not hang anymore.

I am doing install on three more boxes now and will do a bunch of reboot 
cycles to see the end results.


Still some acpi not configure in the dmesg, but so far does look better.

Also, note this is on the latest bios and ilom as well as the latest SAS 
drivers as well. Not the one that comes directly from Sun.


ILOM: 1.1.8
BIOS: 39, not the standard 34 version.
SAS: 1.16.40, not the 1.16.00

More later.

Daniel

==

OpenBSD 4.2-current (GENERIC.MP) #1384: Tue Sep 11 22:09:44 MDT 2007
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/src/sys/arch/amd64/compile/GENERIC.MP
real mem = 3757625344 (3583MB)
avail mem = 3635904512 (3467MB)
User Kernel Config
UKC enable acpi
270 acpi0 enabled
UKC exit
Continuing...
mainbus0 at root
bios0 at mainbus0: SMBIOS rev. 2.3 @ 0xfbd50 (70 entries)
bios0: vendor American Megatrends Inc. version 0ABJX039 date 04/11/2007
bios0: Sun Microsystems Sun Fire X4100 M2
acpi0 at mainbus0: rev 2
acpi0: tables DSDT FACP APIC SPCR SLIT OEMB HPET IPET SRAT SSDT
acpitimer at acpi0 not configured
acpimadt0 at acpi0 addr 0xfee0: PC-AT compat
cpu0 at mainbus0: apid 0 (boot processor)
cpu0: Dual-Core AMD Opteron(tm) Processor 2216, 2393.94 MHz
cpu0: 
FPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,CFLUSH,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,HTT,SSE3,CX16,NXE,MMXX,FFXSR,LONG,3DNOW2,3DNOW
cpu0: 64KB 64b/line 2-way I-cache, 64KB 64b/line 2-way D-cache, 1MB 
64b/line 16-way L2 cache

cpu0: ITLB 32 4KB entries fully associative, 8 4MB entries fully associative
cpu0: DTLB 32 4KB entries fully associative, 8 4MB entries fully associative
cpu0: apic clock running at 199MHz
cpu1 at mainbus0: apid 1 (application processor)
cpu1: Dual-Core AMD Opteron(tm) Processor 2216, 2393.64 MHz
cpu1: 
FPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,CFLUSH,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,HTT,SSE3,CX16,NXE,MMXX,FFXSR,LONG,3DNOW2,3DNOW
cpu1: 64KB 64b/line 2-way I-cache, 64KB 64b/line 2-way D-cache, 1MB 
64b/line 16-way L2 cache

cpu1: ITLB 32 4KB entries fully associative, 8 4MB entries fully associative
cpu1: DTLB 32 4KB entries fully associative, 8 4MB entries fully associative
cpu2 at mainbus0: apid 2 (application processor)
cpu2: Dual-Core AMD Opteron(tm) Processor 2216, 2393.64 MHz
cpu2: 
FPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,CFLUSH,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,HTT,SSE3,CX16,NXE,MMXX,FFXSR,LONG,3DNOW2,3DNOW
cpu2: 64KB 64b/line 2-way I-cache, 64KB 64b/line 2-way D-cache, 1MB 
64b/line 16-way L2 cache

cpu2: ITLB 32 4KB entries fully associative, 8 4MB entries fully associative
cpu2: DTLB 32 4KB entries fully associative, 8 4MB entries fully associative
cpu3 at mainbus0: apid 3 (application processor)
cpu3: Dual-Core AMD Opteron(tm) Processor 2216, 2393.64 MHz
cpu3: 
FPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,CFLUSH,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,HTT,SSE3,CX16,NXE,MMXX,FFXSR,LONG,3DNOW2,3DNOW
cpu3: 64KB 64b/line 2-way I-cache, 64KB 64b/line 2-way D-cache, 1MB 
64b/line 16-way L2 cache

cpu3: ITLB 32 4KB entries fully associative, 8 4MB entries fully associative
cpu3: DTLB 32 4KB entries fully associative, 8 4MB entries fully associative
ioapic0 at mainbus0 apid 15 pa 0xfec0, version 11, 24 pins
ioapic1 at mainbus0 apid 16 pa 0xfeafd000, version 11, 7 pins
ioapic1: misconfigured as apic 0, can't remap to apid 16
ioapic2 at mainbus0 apid 17 pa 0xfeafc000, version 11, 7 pins
ioapic2: misconfigured as apic 1, can't remap to apid 17
ioapic3 at mainbus0 apid 14 pa 0xfeaff000, version 11, 24 pins
acpiprt0 at acpi0: bus 0 (PCI0)
acpiprt1 at acpi0: bus 1 (P0P1)
acpiprt2 at acpi0: bus 4 (P0P4)
acpiprt3 at acpi0: bus 5 (P0P5)
acpiprt4 at acpi0: bus 128 (PCIB)
acpiprt5 at acpi0: bus 133 (POGA)
acpiprt6 at acpi0: bus 134 (POGB)
acpiprt7 at acpi0: bus 131 (BR5D)
acpiprt8 at acpi0: bus 132 (BR5E)
acpiprt9 at acpi0: bus 255 (PCIC)
acpiprt10 at acpi0: bus -1 (POGA)
acpiprt11 at acpi0: bus -1 (POGB)
acpicpu at acpi0 not configured
acpicpu at acpi0 not configured
acpicpu at acpi0 not configured
acpicpu at acpi0 not configured
acpibtn at acpi0 not configured
ipmi0 at mainbus0: version 1.5 interface KCS iobase 0xca4/2 spacing 1
pci0 at mainbus0 bus 0: configuration mode 1
NVIDIA nForce4 DDR rev 0xa3 at pci0 dev 0 function 0 not configured
pcib0 at pci0 dev 1 function 0 NVIDIA nForce4 ISA rev 0xa3
nviic0 at pci0 dev 1 function 1 NVIDIA nForce4 SMBus rev 0xa2
iic0 at nviic0: disabled to avoid ipmi0 interactions
iic1 at nviic0: disabled to avoid ipmi0 interactions
ohci0 at pci0 dev 2 function 0 NVIDIA nForce4 USB rev 0xa2: apic 15 
int 11 (irq 11), version 1.0, legacy support
ehci0 at pci0 dev 2 function 1 NVIDIA nForce4 USB rev 0xa3: apic 15 
int 5 (irq 5)

usb0 at ehci0: USB revision 2.0
uhub0 at usb0: NVIDIA EHCI root hub, rev 2.00/1.00, addr 1
pciide0 at pci0 dev 6 function 0 NVIDIA nForce4 IDE rev 0xf2: DMA, 
channel 0 configured to 

Re: unstable and multiple reboot for 4.2 on Sun X4100 M2 with ACPI enable on AMD64 bsd.mp with SAS RAID 1 setup.

2007-09-12 Thread Pierre Riteau

Le 12 sept. 07 ` 23:42, Daniel Ouellet a icrit :


Here is the new dmesg for current.

So far the boot process is much faster and do not hang anymore.

I am doing install on three more boxes now and will do a bunch of
reboot cycles to see the end results.

Still some acpi not configure in the dmesg, but so far does look
better.


Those devices (acpicpu, acpibtn...) are not compiled in GENERIC or
GENERIC.MP, if you want to test them
you must compile your own kernel.



Also, note this is on the latest bios and ilom as well as the
latest SAS drivers as well. Not the one that comes directly from Sun.

ILOM: 1.1.8
BIOS: 39, not the standard 34 version.
SAS: 1.16.40, not the 1.16.00

More later.

Daniel

==

OpenBSD 4.2-current (GENERIC.MP) #1384: Tue Sep 11 22:09:44 MDT 2007
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/src/sys/arch/amd64/compile/
GENERIC.MP
real mem = 3757625344 (3583MB)
avail mem = 3635904512 (3467MB)
User Kernel Config
UKC enable acpi
270 acpi0 enabled
UKC exit
Continuing...
mainbus0 at root
bios0 at mainbus0: SMBIOS rev. 2.3 @ 0xfbd50 (70 entries)
bios0: vendor American Megatrends Inc. version 0ABJX039 date
04/11/2007
bios0: Sun Microsystems Sun Fire X4100 M2
acpi0 at mainbus0: rev 2
acpi0: tables DSDT FACP APIC SPCR SLIT OEMB HPET IPET SRAT SSDT
acpitimer at acpi0 not configured
acpimadt0 at acpi0 addr 0xfee0: PC-AT compat
cpu0 at mainbus0: apid 0 (boot processor)
cpu0: Dual-Core AMD Opteron(tm) Processor 2216, 2393.94 MHz
cpu0:
FPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE3
6,CFLUSH,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,HTT,SSE3,CX16,NXE,MMXX,FFXSR,LONG,
3DNOW2,3DNOW
cpu0: 64KB 64b/line 2-way I-cache, 64KB 64b/line 2-way D-cache, 1MB
64b/line 16-way L2 cache
cpu0: ITLB 32 4KB entries fully associative, 8 4MB entries fully
associative
cpu0: DTLB 32 4KB entries fully associative, 8 4MB entries fully
associative
cpu0: apic clock running at 199MHz
cpu1 at mainbus0: apid 1 (application processor)
cpu1: Dual-Core AMD Opteron(tm) Processor 2216, 2393.64 MHz
cpu1:
FPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE3
6,CFLUSH,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,HTT,SSE3,CX16,NXE,MMXX,FFXSR,LONG,
3DNOW2,3DNOW
cpu1: 64KB 64b/line 2-way I-cache, 64KB 64b/line 2-way D-cache, 1MB
64b/line 16-way L2 cache
cpu1: ITLB 32 4KB entries fully associative, 8 4MB entries fully
associative
cpu1: DTLB 32 4KB entries fully associative, 8 4MB entries fully
associative
cpu2 at mainbus0: apid 2 (application processor)
cpu2: Dual-Core AMD Opteron(tm) Processor 2216, 2393.64 MHz
cpu2:
FPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE3
6,CFLUSH,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,HTT,SSE3,CX16,NXE,MMXX,FFXSR,LONG,
3DNOW2,3DNOW
cpu2: 64KB 64b/line 2-way I-cache, 64KB 64b/line 2-way D-cache, 1MB
64b/line 16-way L2 cache
cpu2: ITLB 32 4KB entries fully associative, 8 4MB entries fully
associative
cpu2: DTLB 32 4KB entries fully associative, 8 4MB entries fully
associative
cpu3 at mainbus0: apid 3 (application processor)
cpu3: Dual-Core AMD Opteron(tm) Processor 2216, 2393.64 MHz
cpu3:
FPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE3
6,CFLUSH,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,HTT,SSE3,CX16,NXE,MMXX,FFXSR,LONG,
3DNOW2,3DNOW
cpu3: 64KB 64b/line 2-way I-cache, 64KB 64b/line 2-way D-cache, 1MB
64b/line 16-way L2 cache
cpu3: ITLB 32 4KB entries fully associative, 8 4MB entries fully
associative
cpu3: DTLB 32 4KB entries fully associative, 8 4MB entries fully
associative
ioapic0 at mainbus0 apid 15 pa 0xfec0, version 11, 24 pins
ioapic1 at mainbus0 apid 16 pa 0xfeafd000, version 11, 7 pins
ioapic1: misconfigured as apic 0, can't remap to apid 16
ioapic2 at mainbus0 apid 17 pa 0xfeafc000, version 11, 7 pins
ioapic2: misconfigured as apic 1, can't remap to apid 17
ioapic3 at mainbus0 apid 14 pa 0xfeaff000, version 11, 24 pins
acpiprt0 at acpi0: bus 0 (PCI0)
acpiprt1 at acpi0: bus 1 (P0P1)
acpiprt2 at acpi0: bus 4 (P0P4)
acpiprt3 at acpi0: bus 5 (P0P5)
acpiprt4 at acpi0: bus 128 (PCIB)
acpiprt5 at acpi0: bus 133 (POGA)
acpiprt6 at acpi0: bus 134 (POGB)
acpiprt7 at acpi0: bus 131 (BR5D)
acpiprt8 at acpi0: bus 132 (BR5E)
acpiprt9 at acpi0: bus 255 (PCIC)
acpiprt10 at acpi0: bus -1 (POGA)
acpiprt11 at acpi0: bus -1 (POGB)
acpicpu at acpi0 not configured
acpicpu at acpi0 not configured
acpicpu at acpi0 not configured
acpicpu at acpi0 not configured
acpibtn at acpi0 not configured
ipmi0 at mainbus0: version 1.5 interface KCS iobase 0xca4/2 spacing 1
pci0 at mainbus0 bus 0: configuration mode 1
NVIDIA nForce4 DDR rev 0xa3 at pci0 dev 0 function 0 not configured
pcib0 at pci0 dev 1 function 0 NVIDIA nForce4 ISA rev 0xa3
nviic0 at pci0 dev 1 function 1 NVIDIA nForce4 SMBus rev 0xa2
iic0 at nviic0: disabled to avoid ipmi0 interactions
iic1 at nviic0: disabled to avoid ipmi0 interactions
ohci0 at pci0 dev 2 function 0 NVIDIA nForce4 USB rev 0xa2: apic
15 int 11 (irq 11), version 1.0, legacy support
ehci0 at pci0 dev 2 function 1 NVIDIA nForce4 USB rev 0xa3: apic
15 int 5 (irq 5)
usb0 

Re: unstable and multiple reboot for 4.2 on Sun X4100 M2 with ACPI enable on AMD64 bsd.mp with SAS RAID 1 setup.

2007-09-12 Thread Daniel Ouellet

Tobias Weingartner wrote:

In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Daniel Ouellet wrote:
 So, I am not sure what testing you did, unless you built your own. new 
 Snapshots was just release now, witch I will be happy to test tonight 
 and see the results and report back.


If you guys could test out my ACPI diff I posted to tech@, that may help.



I follow tech@ as well, but I guess I miss that one. I will check it out 
and see what come out of it. I assume it's not into current now right?




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Re: AMD Releases 900+ Pages Of GPU Specs

2007-09-12 Thread Steve Shockley

Tony Lambiris wrote:

http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_itempx=NjA1Mw


More relevant, but slow:

http://www.x.org/docs/AMD/



Re: Strange Lock-ups with Opera?

2007-09-12 Thread Vadim Jukov
2007/9/12, Antoine Jacoutot [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 On Wednesday 12 September 2007 08:41:26 Greg Thomas wrote:
  I don't have much to add other than I experience the same thing with
  many Flash sites.

 Same here only it does not happen only with flash sites.
 Sometimes, just starting opera and going to google.com is enough to hang...
 Never looked into it...

I have this problem on my dual PIII-550 system, but only in dual-CPU
mode. When only one CPU is enabled, Opera surfs like a charm... Looks
like there are more problems with shared memory, but I'm unsure.



Re: [OT] password aging/expiry

2007-09-12 Thread Stuart Henderson
On 2007/09/10 18:29, jul wrote:
 * if too much restrictions on passphrase, they will go on post-it, PDA
 or else which are, in general, less secure.

Depends on the threat model, but that is often safer than a
weak memorised password.

How about this as a better alternative: write down a strong
password fragment, and add something more easily memorable.
Then use the two parts together as the actual password.

But then, key-loggers change the game a lot. Regular password
changes or OTP are a big help there.



Re: AMD Releases 900+ Pages Of GPU Specs

2007-09-12 Thread Leonardo Rodrigues
Could this lead to an implementation of a driver that is less evil,
I mean that does not bypass kernel in order to mess around with
registers etc? Or is this the design state of all video cards on the
market?


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An OpenBSD user... and that's all you need to know =)

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Re: What Linux distribution would you most like to see supported on a ThinkPad?

2007-09-12 Thread Darren Spruell
On 9/12/07, Sunnz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 http://lenovoblogs.com/insidethebox/?p=98

 Interestingly both FreeBSD and OpenBSD are listed as a choice of
 Linux distro; as well as anyone that refuses to carry binary-only
 drivers, so that all others will also benefit, as it will require
 documented hardware.

Everyone gets that the poll is set up so that you can put arbitrary
answers on there and pick them?

Someone added them. That's all.

DS



Re: Strange Lock-ups with Opera?

2007-09-12 Thread Aaron W. Hsu
[EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
 only in dual-CPU mode

This is very interesting to me, as I am running using the MP kernel as well. I 
am doing so because I have a Dual Core system, but, maybe there is not that 
big of a performance gain?

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 (email/xmpp [EMAIL PROTECTED])
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 (site http://www.aaronhsu.com;))



The Atheros story in much fewer words

2007-09-12 Thread Theo de Raadt
I recognize that writeup about the Atheros / Linux / SFLC story is a
bit complex, so I wrote a very simple explanation to someone, and they
liked it's clarity so much that they asked me to post it for everyone.
Here it is (with a few more changes)

-
starting premise:
 
   you can already use the code as it is

steps taken:

1. pester developer for a year to get it under another license.
   - get told no, repeatedly

2. climb over ethical fence

3. remove his license
   - get caught, look a bit stupid

4. wrap his license with your own
   - get caught, look really stupid

5. assert copyright under author's license, without original work
   - get caught, look even more stupid

Right now the wireless linux developers -- aided by an entire team of
evidently unskilled lawyers -- are at step 5, and we don't know what
will happen next.  We wait, to see what will happen.

Reyk can take them to court over this, but he must do it before the
year 2047.



Re: Qemu + auich = sound ?

2007-09-12 Thread Allie Daneman
Progress...I setup the following environment variables and got sound...but it 
was choppy as hell.
export QEMU_AUDIO_DRV=oss
QEMU_OSS_DAC_DEV=/dev/audio
QEMU_OSS_ADC_DEV=/dev/audio

Rodrigo V. Raimundo([EMAIL PROTECTED])@Wed, Sep 12, 2007 at 03:00:01PM -0300:
 -soundhw emulates the sound card that the guest OS will see. It has 
 nothing to do with your real sound card. I think qemu will pass the 
 sound data directly to /dev/audio and it will silent fail if its busy or 
 can't be written
 
 Allie D. wrote:
 Can anyone give me a hint how to get sound working in Qemu ? I'm running
 an X31 and am starting -soundhw all but I don't think it covers my sound
 hardware. The precompiled 4.1 package has:
 
 pcspk   PC speaker
 sb16Creative Sound Blaster 16
 es1370  ENSONIQ AudioPCI ES1370
 
 But my sound device is an auich. Anyone get sound working for an auich
 device ?



[FIXED] Re: Problem with setting up printer

2007-09-12 Thread Aaron W. Hsu
Alright, I figured out how to make this printer work finally, and I thought I 
would summarize the work I did for the list in hopes that it will help anyone 
else who is having similar problems:

Printer: Brother HL-2070N connected over static IP on an ethernet line.
Problem: When sending jobs to the printer, the text is read as plain text, 
instead of PostScript/PCL and is printed in a stair-cased manner, with many 
blank pages following.

Diagnosis: The 2070n needs to be send the data in a binary PCL format, for 
best results. Doing this can be annoying if you have to set up the stuff on 
your own. There is a closed source binary linux driver for the brother that is 
distributed by Brother, but this is not going to work here. However, there are 
a few drivers that do create the proper output, including hl1250 and pxlmono.

Solution: APSFilter with a workaround.

When I initially tried to use APSFilter to send data to the printer, I chose 
as my device, network, and configured it accordingly, thinking that this was 
the right way to do it. While this is the `right' way, it does not work. The 
problem comes from the fact that APSFilter needs to process the file through 
its own filter first to be able to convert any given input into the correct 
pxlmono PCL6 output. It does this by adding an if entry to the printcap entry 
for your printer. However, when a remote printer is added, APSFilter uses rm 
and rp to configure it. The unfortunate problem is that `if' is not used at 
all when rm != localhost of the lpd daemon. This means that the file was not 
being processed by APSFilter. To fix this, there is an alternative format for 
the normal printer entry that one can use.

When setting up the printer, select the APSFilter option 1 (Parallel/USB) 
instead of 3 (Network). Then, instead of entering the path to a device file, 
enter locator for the printer instead. By default on the 2070n, the printer 
listens on port 9100. So, I entered [EMAIL PROTECTED] as the filename. 
APSFilter complained, but I told it to go ahead.

After finishing setup as I see fit and restarting LPD, everything works like a 
charm.

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Re: Setting up ccd RAID 1 Howto OpenBSD 4.1

2007-09-12 Thread Jake Conk
Hey,

I tried following that article but I got stuck at the part where you
start partition your second drive. I created the first partition with
100mb and type of 4.2 BSD then when I tried to create the second
partition on my drive as FS_RAID as the article says but it said that
FS_RAID is an unknown type and treated my partition as unknown?

To me that part of the article on how to partition my disk is totally
unclear. All it says is make the first partition 100m for the boot
which makes sense then it doesn't say how to partition the rest of
your drive to setup for the RAID 1? Can someone clarify this a bit
more please? I'm stuck.

Thanks,
- Jake

Anyways how do I fix this FS_RAID problem

On 9/12/07, nicodache [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I personnaly used the following doc to set up my software raid 1 frame :
 http://www.linux.com/articles/52713

 good luck :)

 On 9/12/07, Steve Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Jake Conk wrote:
   Hello,
  
   I've searched hi and low for hours on how to setup my system of a RAID
   1 and basically what it comes down to is ccd and/or Raid Frame. I've
   found helpful docs on using some of the commands and where to put my
   configurations but nothing seems complete enough for me to figure it
   out.
  
   I have OpenBSD 4.1 installed on one disk and I have an exact duplicate
   disk where i want to mirror my installation to incase of disk failure.
   If this needs to be setup during install I'm willing reinstall
   everything or if there is a way to configure my disks for ccd and
   mirror them to the second disk then I'm willing to do that also.
  
   Basically I don't know how to get this ball rolling, I've read 1) I
   must change the disk type with disk label to ccd. Then 2) create ccd0
   with ccdconfig and tell it to mirror disk 1 to disk 2. It then 3)
   finally says to put my configuration into ccd.conf so that it can be
   read in on boot by my system and of course put the stuff in fstab to
   have it mounted on boot but thats all I know, everything is very vague
   and no exact details on how to do this step by step with a new install
   or a already running system.
  
   Can someone please help provide a step by step way to mirror my whole
   disk to a second disk by ressetting back up OpenBSD from scratch or if
   possible configure my already installed system? I don't care if its
   with ccd or another tool as long as I have a disk failover solution.
  
  
   Please Please Please and Thanks!
   - Jake
  
  Hi,
 
  Not for CCD, but raidframe..
 
  Search the mailing list archives for a thread with a subject Seeking
  info for RAID 1 on OpenBSD.  In there you will find all sorts of info.
 
  http://marc.info/?l=openbsd-miscm=116360194522004w=2
 
  http://www.packetmischief.ca/openbsd/doc/raidadmin/
 
  Good Luck,
 
  Thanks,
  Steve Williams