Re: Any Dev interested in SIS Ethernet/SATA driver development?
On Fri, Dec 26, 2008 at 10:10:04PM -0500, bofh wrote: On Fri, Dec 26, 2008 at 5:10 PM, Rene Maroufi i...@maroufi.net wrote: On Fri, Dec 26, 2008 at 03:32:50PM -0600, Marco Peereboom wrote: I'll comment by saying that developing a storage driver remotely is a total pain in the ass bordering impossible. Not, if there are 2 hard drives, both connected different (separate Controllers). My OpenBSD System (amd64, 4.4 stable) runs from the IDE drive. The SATA drive isn't in use any more. I think Marco's point was that if there are crashes, lockups, etc, it is a pain in the ass not to have console access, or to be able to unplug the power and reboot into a working config/kernel, etc etc. Even without any development experience I can see that as a pain. OK, I understand, but I can provide a serial console from a neighbour machine and a SSH account on the neighbour machine, too. Is it possible with a serial console? Cheers Reni -- Reni Maroufi i...@maroufi.net
Problem with wpi in -current?
Hello, since beginning of December, wpi stopped working with -current on my system. It seems to get detected correctly (see attached dmesg) but when running ifconfig I get on stderr: ifconfig: SIOCGIFNETMASK: Device not configured ifconfig: SIOCGIFNETMASK_IN6: Device not configured ifconfig: SIOCGIFAFLAG_IN6: Device not configured ifconfig: SIOCGIFALIFETIME_IN6: Device not configured ifconfig: SIOCGIFNETMASK_IN6: Device not configured ifconfig: SIOCGIFAFLAG_IN6: Device not configured ifconfig: SIOCGIFALIFETIME_IN6: Device not configured and no wpi0. With -current of November 28, it works. Disabling ACPI did not change anything. Any ideas? Thank you, Michael [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type application/octet-stream which had a name of dmesg]
Re: Any Dev interested in SIS Ethernet/SATA driver development?
On Fri, Dec 26, 2008 at 03:16:26PM -0600, Todd T. Fries wrote: You should try current. I have these very chipsets on a board I have, and the IDE support works great for PATA drives, haven't plugged in any SATA drives I will admit, mind showing a dmesg so we can get an idea of how old a kernel you are running/ I tried the latest snapshot and DMA doesn't working: pciide1 at pci0 dev 8 function 0 vendor SiS, unknown product 0x0183 rev 0x01: DMA (unsupported), channel 0 wired to native-PCI, channel 1 wired to native-PCI My full dmesg with the latest snapshot: OpenBSD 4.4-current (GENERIC) #1971: Wed Dec 24 01:45:08 MST 2008 dera...@amd64.openbsd.org:/usr/src/sys/arch/amd64/compile/GENERIC real mem = 1026732032 (979MB) avail mem = 996515840 (950MB) mainbus0 at root bios0 at mainbus0: SMBIOS rev. 2.3 @ 0xfc7b0 (45 entries) bios0: vendor American Megatrends Inc. version 080012 date 08/13/2007 acpi0 at bios0: rev 0 acpi0: tables DSDT FACP APIC MCFG OEMB acpi0: wakeup devices PS2K(S4) PS2M(S4) UAR1(S4) UAR2(S4) PCI0(S4) EUSB(S4) USB_(S4) USB2(S4) USB3(S4) AC97(S4) MC97(S4) MAC_(S4) acpitimer0 at acpi0: 3579545 Hz, 24 bits acpimadt0 at acpi0 addr 0xfee0: PC-AT compat cpu0 at mainbus0: apid 0 (boot processor) cpu0: AMD Athlon(tm) 64 Processor 3200+, 2200.35 MHz cpu0: FPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,CFLUSH,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SSE3,NXE,MMXX,FFXSR,LONG,3DNOW2,3DNOW cpu0: 64KB 64b/line 2-way I-cache, 64KB 64b/line 2-way D-cache, 512KB 64b/line 16-way L2 cache cpu0: ITLB 32 4KB entries fully associative, 8 4MB entries fully associative cpu0: DTLB 32 4KB entries fully associative, 8 4MB entries fully associative cpu0: AMD erratum 89 present, BIOS upgrade may be required cpu0: apic clock running at 200MHz ioapic0 at mainbus0 apid 1 pa 0xfec0, version 14, 24 pins acpiprt0 at acpi0: bus 0 (PCI0) acpiprt1 at acpi0: bus 2 (P0P6) acpiprt2 at acpi0: bus 3 (P0P7) acpicpu0 at acpi0: PSS acpibtn0 at acpi0: PWRB cpu0: Cool'n'Quiet K8 2200 MHz: speeds: 2200 2000 1800 1000 MHz pci0 at mainbus0 bus 0: configuration mode 1 pchb0 at pci0 dev 0 function 0 SiS 761 PCI rev 0x02 agp at pchb0 not configured ppb0 at pci0 dev 1 function 0 SiS 86C202 VGA rev 0x00 pci1 at ppb0 bus 1 vga1 at pci1 dev 0 function 0 SiS 6330 VGA rev 0x03 wsdisplay0 at vga1 mux 1: console (80x25, vt100 emulation) wsdisplay0: screen 1-5 added (80x25, vt100 emulation) pcib0 at pci0 dev 2 function 0 SiS 965 ISA rev 0x48 pciide0 at pci0 dev 2 function 5 SiS 5513 EIDE rev 0x01: 965: DMA, channel 0 configured to compatibility, channel 1 configured to compatibility atapiscsi0 at pciide0 channel 0 drive 1 scsibus0 at atapiscsi0: 2 targets, initiator 7 cd0 at scsibus0 targ 0 lun 0: ATAPI, iHDP118 4, GL03 ATAPI 5/cdrom removable cd0(pciide0:0:1): using PIO mode 4, Ultra-DMA mode 2 wd0 at pciide0 channel 1 drive 0: ST380020A wd0: 16-sector PIO, LBA, 76319MB, 156301488 sectors wd0(pciide0:1:0): using PIO mode 4, Ultra-DMA mode 2 auich0 at pci0 dev 2 function 7 SiS 7012 AC97 rev 0xa0: apic 1 int 18 (irq 11), SiS7012 AC97 ac97: codec id 0x41445368 (Analog Devices AD1888) ac97: codec features headphone, 20 bit DAC, No 3D Stereo audio0 at auich0 ohci0 at pci0 dev 3 function 0 SiS 5597/5598 USB rev 0x0f: apic 1 int 20 (irq 5), version 1.0, legacy support ohci1 at pci0 dev 3 function 1 SiS 5597/5598 USB rev 0x0f: apic 1 int 21 (irq 3), version 1.0, legacy support ohci2 at pci0 dev 3 function 2 SiS 5597/5598 USB rev 0x0f: apic 1 int 22 (irq 5), version 1.0, legacy support ehci0 at pci0 dev 3 function 3 SiS 7002 USB rev 0x00: apic 1 int 23 (irq 5) usb0 at ehci0: USB revision 2.0 uhub0 at usb0 SiS EHCI root hub rev 2.00/1.00 addr 1 SiS 190 rev 0x00 at pci0 dev 4 function 0 not configured ppb1 at pci0 dev 6 function 0 SiS PCI-PCI rev 0x00 pci2 at ppb1 bus 2 ppb2 at pci0 dev 7 function 0 SiS PCI-PCI rev 0x00 pci3 at ppb2 bus 3 pciide1 at pci0 dev 8 function 0 vendor SiS, unknown product 0x0183 rev 0x01: DMA (unsupported), channel 0 wired to native-PCI, channel 1 wired to native-PCI pciide1: using apic 1 int 17 (irq 5) for native-PCI interrupt wd1 at pciide1 channel 0 drive 0: ExcelStor Technology J8160S wd1: 16-sector PIO, LBA48, 152627MB, 312581808 sectors pciide1: channel 1 ignored (not responding; disabled or no drives?) rl0 at pci0 dev 9 function 0 Accton MPX 5030/5038 rev 0x10: apic 1 int 17 (irq 5), address 00:e0:29:6a:8e:10 rlphy0 at rl0 phy 0: RTL internal PHY pchb1 at pci0 dev 24 function 0 AMD AMD64 0Fh HyperTransport rev 0x00 pchb2 at pci0 dev 24 function 1 AMD AMD64 0Fh Address Map rev 0x00 pchb3 at pci0 dev 24 function 2 AMD AMD64 0Fh DRAM Cfg rev 0x00 kate0 at pci0 dev 24 function 3 AMD AMD64 0Fh Misc Cfg rev 0x00 ppb3 at pci0 dev 31 function 0 SiS PCI-PCI rev 0x00 pci4 at ppb3 bus 4 isa0 at pcib0 isadma0 at isa0 com0 at isa0 port 0x3f8/8 irq 4: ns16550a, 16 byte fifo pckbc0 at isa0 port 0x60/5 pckbd0 at pckbc0 (kbd slot) pckbc0: using irq 1 for kbd slot wskbd0 at pckbd0: console keyboard, using wsdisplay0
Problem with wpi in -current?
Michael Warmuth wrote: Hello, since beginning of December, wpi stopped working with -current on my system. It seems to get detected correctly (see attached dmesg) but when running ifconfig I get on stderr: ifconfig: SIOCGIFNETMASK: Device not configured ifconfig: SIOCGIFNETMASK_IN6: Device not configured ifconfig: SIOCGIFAFLAG_IN6: Device not configured ifconfig: SIOCGIFALIFETIME_IN6: Device not configured ifconfig: SIOCGIFNETMASK_IN6: Device not configured ifconfig: SIOCGIFAFLAG_IN6: Device not configured ifconfig: SIOCGIFALIFETIME_IN6: Device not configured and no wpi0. You have kernel and userland out of sync. Alexey
Python in base?
Hi misc@, ?Are there some plans to include python in base system (as Perl is at present)? -- Thanks, Jordi Espasa Clofent
Re: Python in base?
No. It won't happen. Check the archives, this has been discussed before. pkg_add -i python On 2008 Dec 27 (Sat) at 16:04:01 +0100 (+0100), Jordi Espasa Clofent wrote: Hi misc@, ?Are there some plans to include python in base system (as Perl is at present)? -- Thanks, Jordi Espasa Clofent -- I doubt, therefore I might be.
Re: Python in base?
Jordi Espasa Clofent wrote: Hi misc@, ?Are there some plans to include python in base system (as Perl is at present)? Why make it shipped in base? -- Best regards. Zhang Huangbin - Open Source Mail Server Solution for RHEL/CentOS 5.x: http://code.google.com/p/iredmail/
Re: Python in base?
On Sat, Dec 27, 2008 at 04:04:01PM +0100, Jordi Espasa Clofent wrote: Are there some plans to include python in base system (as Perl is at present)? ... the people in charge don't like it ... http://marc.info/?l=openbsd-miscm=121171346816874w=2
Re: Problem with wpi in -current?
Hi, On Sat, 27 Dec 2008 14:56:48 +0200, Alexey Suslikov wrote You have kernel and userland out of sync. Yes, you are right. Sorry for the stupid question. Thanks, Michael
/etc/netstart issue with dhcp and default route
Hi, I have the problem that, when dhclient is started for my wireless interface iwi0 from /etc/netstart, no IPv4 default route is created. If I call dhclient iwi0 manually it works. # cat /etc/hostname.bge0 rtsol media autoselect \ priority 1 up !/sbin/dhclient ``\$if'' For the wired connection it doesn't matter if I use dhcp or add the !dhclient command, just trying out different things. Adding the default route always works here. # cat /etc/hostname.iwi0 rtsol media autoselect nwid \ nwkey 0x \ bssid aa:bb:cc:dd:ee:ff:gg \ priority 2 up !/sbin/ifconfig ``\$if'' chan /dev/null 21 !/sbin/dhclient ``\$if'' For iwi0 I need the first ! line so it actually starts the connection to the access point. Without that line I do not get associated and nothing happens at all. When I add dhcp to the head of the file dhclient complains about no link... and with the !dhclient line at the bottom I get an IP address etc, just NO default route (even when I remove the hostname.bge0 file or pull the cable). As said above, it works if I manually execute dhclient. Any ideas? Its is the GENERIC kernel with NTFS enabled: OpenBSD 4.4-current (BELENUS) #0: Thu Dec 18 17:37:11 CET 2008 r...@obsd.home.lechtermann.net:/usr/src/sys/arch/i386/compile/BELENUS cpu0: Intel(R) Pentium(R) M processor 1.60GHz (GenuineIntel 686-class) 1.60 GHz cpu0: FPU,V86,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,CFLUSH,DS,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SS,TM,SBF,EST,TM2 real mem = 1600548864 (1526MB) avail mem = 1538301952 (1467MB) mainbus0 at root bios0 at mainbus0: AT/286+ BIOS, date 12/14/06, BIOS32 rev. 0 @ 0xfd750, SMBIOS rev. 2.33 @ 0xe0010 (59 entries) bios0: vendor IBM version 74ET64WW (2.09 ) date 12/14/2006 bios0: IBM 2525FAG apm0 at bios0: Power Management spec V1.2 apm0: battery life expectancy 100% apm0: AC on, battery charge high acpi at bios0 function 0x0 not configured pcibios0 at bios0: rev 2.1 @ 0xfd6e0/0x920 pcibios0: PCI IRQ Routing Table rev 1.0 @ 0xfdec0/240 (13 entries) pcibios0: PCI Interrupt Router at 000:31:0 (Intel 82371FB ISA rev 0x00) pcibios0: PCI bus #5 is the last bus bios0: ROM list: 0xc/0xf600! 0xcf800/0x1600 0xd1000/0x1000 0xdc000/0x4000! 0xe/0x1 cpu0 at mainbus0: (uniprocessor) cpu0: Enhanced SpeedStep 1600 MHz (1116 mV): speeds: 1600, 1500, 1400, 1300, 1200, 1100, 1000, 900, 800, 600 MHz pci0 at mainbus0 bus 0: configuration mode 1 (bios) pchb0 at pci0 dev 0 function 0 Intel 82915GM Host rev 0x03 vga1 at pci0 dev 2 function 0 Intel 82915GM Video rev 0x03 wsdisplay0 at vga1 mux 1: console (80x25, vt100 emulation) wsdisplay0: screen 1-5 added (80x25, vt100 emulation) intagp0 at vga1 agp0 at intagp0: aperture at 0xc000, size 0x1000 inteldrm0 at vga1: irq 11 drm0 at inteldrm0 Intel 82915GM Video rev 0x03 at pci0 dev 2 function 1 not configured ppb0 at pci0 dev 28 function 0 Intel 82801FB PCIE rev 0x03: irq 11 pci1 at ppb0 bus 2 bge0 at pci1 dev 0 function 0 Broadcom BCM5751M rev 0x11, BCM5750 B1 (0x4101): irq 11, address 00:16:d3:29:ce:76 brgphy0 at bge0 phy 1: BCM5750 10/100/1000baseT PHY, rev. 0 uhci0 at pci0 dev 29 function 0 Intel 82801FB USB rev 0x03: irq 11 uhci1 at pci0 dev 29 function 1 Intel 82801FB USB rev 0x03: irq 5 uhci2 at pci0 dev 29 function 2 Intel 82801FB USB rev 0x03: irq 6 uhci3 at pci0 dev 29 function 3 Intel 82801FB USB rev 0x03: irq 11 ehci0 at pci0 dev 29 function 7 Intel 82801FB USB rev 0x03: irq 11 usb0 at ehci0: USB revision 2.0 uhub0 at usb0 Intel EHCI root hub rev 2.00/1.00 addr 1 ppb1 at pci0 dev 30 function 0 Intel 82801BAM Hub-to-PCI rev 0xd3 pci2 at ppb1 bus 4 cbb0 at pci2 dev 0 function 0 Ricoh 5C476 CardBus rev 0x8d: irq 11 sdhc0 at pci2 dev 0 function 1 Ricoh 5C822 SD/MMC rev 0x13: irq 5 sdmmc0 at sdhc0 iwi0 at pci2 dev 2 function 0 Intel PRO/Wireless 2915ABG rev 0x05: irq 11, address 00:16:6f:b2:30:c7 cardslot0 at cbb0 slot 0 flags 0 cardbus0 at cardslot0: bus 5 device 0 cacheline 0x0, lattimer 0xb0 pcmcia0 at cardslot0 auich0 at pci0 dev 30 function 2 Intel 82801FB AC97 rev 0x03: irq 11, ICH6 AC97 ac97: codec id 0x41445374 (Analog Devices AD1981B) ac97: codec features headphone, 20 bit DAC, No 3D Stereo audio0 at auich0 Intel 82801FB Modem rev 0x03 at pci0 dev 30 function 3 not configured ichpcib0 at pci0 dev 31 function 0 Intel 82801FBM LPC rev 0x03: PM disabled pciide0 at pci0 dev 31 function 2 Intel 82801FBM SATA rev 0x03: DMA, channel 0 wired to compatibility, channel 1 wired to compatibility wd0 at pciide0 channel 0 drive 0: TRANSCEND wd0: 1-sector PIO, LBA, 30592MB, 62652416 sectors wd0(pciide0:0:0): using PIO mode 4, Ultra-DMA mode 4 wd1 at pciide0 channel 1 drive 0: ST9160821A wd1: 16-sector PIO, LBA48, 152627MB, 312581808 sectors wd1(pciide0:1:0): using PIO mode 4, Ultra-DMA mode 5 ichiic0 at pci0 dev 31 function 3 Intel 82801FB SMBus rev 0x03: irq 11 iic0 at ichiic0 spdmem0 at iic0 addr 0x51: 1GB DDR2 SDRAM non-parity PC2-4200CL5 SO-DIMM usb1 at uhci0: USB revision 1.0 uhub1 at usb1 Intel UHCI root hub
OpenBGPD: Announce all problem and strange rib-out entries.
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Hello!
I hope this is the right forum to discuss OpenBGP on OpenBSD.
I am setting up a lab network using a combination of OpenBSD 4.4
(About as standard install as they get) and Junier routers and have
run into an interesting problem with OpenBGP. To summarize the issue,
it acts as if announce self is turned on for all neighbours, even
when it's not. I also get a weird duplicate entry in the rib-out for
local nets, if the router gets a more specific route from a neighbour
for a local network. No filters are active. Nada. Zip. I am not
certain if this is a bug with OpenBGPD, the juniper-bgpd combination
or (perhaps most likely) a configuration error on my side.
Here is the bgpd.conf. (I have obfuscated some addresses and cut it
short to save space)
# sample bgpd configuration file
# see bgpd.conf(5)
# global configuration
AS 65000
router-id x.y.z.62
listen on x.y.z.62
fib-update yes
#network inet connected
network 192.168.0.0/16
network 10.0.0.0/8
# neighbors and peers
group AS 65011 A1 {
remote-as 65011
neighbor x.y.z.34
announce all
}
group AS 65012 A2 {
remote-as 65012
neighbor x.y.z.35
announce all
}
group AS 65013 A3 {
remote-as 65013
neighbor x.y.z.36
announce all
}
group AS 65014 A4 {
remote-as 65014
neighbor x.y.z.37
announce all
}
16 more neighbors
And some bgpctl outputs.
# bgpctl show summary
Neighbor AS MsgRcvdMsgSentOutQ Up/Down
State/PrfRcvd
16 more neighbors
x.y.z.3765014 59 43 0 00:25:15 0
x.y.z.3665013 0 0 0 NeverActive
x.y.z.3565012 91 59 0 00:39:01 2
x.y.z.3465011 0 0 0 NeverActive
# bgpctl show network
flags: S = Static
flags destination
* 10.0.0.0/8
# bgpctl show rib
flags: * = Valid, = Selected, I = via IBGP, A = Announced
origin: i = IGP, e = EGP, ? = Incomplete
flags destination gateway lpref med aspath origin
AI* 10.0.0.0/8 0.0.0.0100 0 i
*10.2.0.0/16 x.y.z.35 100 0 65012 i
*192.168.2.0/24 x.y.z.35 100 0 65012 i
# bgpctl show rib detail
BGP routing table entry for 10.0.0.0/8
Nexthop 0.0.0.0 (via 0.0.0.0) from LOCAL: ID x.y.z.62 (x.y.z.62)
Origin IGP, metric 0, localpref 100, internal, valid, best, announced
Last update: 00:03:58 ago
BGP routing table entry for 10.2.0.0/16
65012
Nexthop x.y.z.35 (via x.y.z.35) from x.y.z.35 (192.168.2.2)
Origin IGP, metric 0, localpref 100, external, valid, best
Last update: 00:55:38 ago
Aggregator: 62717.0 [192.168.2.2]
BGP routing table entry for 192.168.2.0/24
65012
Nexthop x.y.z.35 (via x.y.z.35) from x.y.z.35 (192.168.2.2)
Origin IGP, metric 0, localpref 100, external, valid, best
Last update: 00:55:38 ago
Aggregator: 62717.0 [192.168.2.2]
# bgpctl show rib out
flags: * = Valid, = Selected, I = via IBGP, A = Announced
origin: i = IGP, e = EGP, ? = Incomplete
flags destination gateway lpref med aspath origin
AI* 10.0.0.0/8 0.0.0.0100 0 i
AI* 10.0.0.0/8 0.0.0.0100 0 i
# bgpctl show rib out detail
BGP routing table entry for 10.0.0.0/8
Nexthop 0.0.0.0 (via 0.0.0.0) from LOCAL: ID x.y.z.62 (x.y.z.62)
Origin IGP, metric 0, localpref 100, internal, valid, best, announced
Last update: 00:01:02 ago
BGP routing table entry for 10.0.0.0/8
Nexthop 0.0.0.0 (via 0.0.0.0) from LOCAL: ID x.y.z.62 (x.y.z.62)
Origin IGP, metric 0, localpref 100, internal, valid, best, announced
Last update: 00:01:02 ago
.35 announces 2 networks: 10.2.0.0/16 and 192.168.2.0/24. I would have
expected .62 to reannounce both. The 10.2/16 and 192.168.2/24 routes
are correctly entered into the local routing table. However, for some
reason they are not announced, and never gets the announced flag.
Can somebody with more experience of BGPD help me solve this mystery?
/Pehr Svderman
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environmental prerequisites for kernel development (was Re: Any Dev interested in SIS Ethernet/SATA driver development?)
bofh wrote: I think Marco's point was that if there are crashes, lockups, etc, it is a pain in the ass not to have console access, or to be able to unplug the power and reboot into a working config/kernel, etc etc. ... Access to a second box, for control, which has both serial and Ethernet connections to the development units is the first step. What else is there on a wish-list for being able to do kernel-level work remotely? What architecture-specific troubles are common? I notice some of the PPC and AMD64 units I have do not have serial output. As far as the power-cycling of hardware goes, I'm looking into GPIO on the motherboard to control optocouplers (or equiv) to control power relays which can then switch the wall current for some development units on or off. For equipment with hardware reset, the relay can be skipped. These would be controlled via the control box's GPIO using gpioctl. I ask because I'm trying to set up an environment where kernel-level work can be done remotely. Having more perspectives will help. regards, -Lars
Re: environmental prerequisites for kernel development (was Re: Any Dev interested in SIS Ethernet/SATA driver development?)
Lars NoodC)n wrote: bofh wrote: I think Marco's point was that if there are crashes, lockups, etc, it is a pain in the ass not to have console access, or to be able to unplug the power and reboot into a working config/kernel, etc etc. ... Access to a second box, for control, which has both serial and Ethernet connections to the development units is the first step. What else is there on a wish-list for being able to do kernel-level work remotely? What architecture-specific troubles are common? I notice some of the PPC and AMD64 units I have do not have serial output. As far as the power-cycling of hardware goes, I'm looking into GPIO on the motherboard to control optocouplers (or equiv) to control power relays which can then switch the wall current for some development units on or off. For equipment with hardware reset, the relay can be skipped. These would be controlled via the control box's GPIO using gpioctl. I ask because I'm trying to set up an environment where kernel-level work can be done remotely. Having more perspectives will help. regards, -Lars Lars, coupla things that might be useful, first off it bears mention that quite a few higher-end machines (eg Sun Fire T1000) have a lights-out management device or card of some sort which allows pretty much full control over the machine over either ethernet or serial, or both. In the case of the T1000, its only interfaces are 4 ethernet jacks for the machine, and 2 RJ45's, one serial and one ethernet for the ALOM. A machine of this type wouldn't need a management machine at all, everything can be done over ethernet. Given it doesn't have peripheral or monitor outputs, there is in fact no difference between being there and being on another continent. The T1000 is the extreme case, but both HP and Dell to name two companies provide management cards which give a certain amount of remote control. Googling for Dell DRAC and HP iLOM may be useful to you. The other thing is that the guys over at CoreBoot have spent some time addressing low-level remote control of motherboards for testing their BIOS code. I don't know if they still do, but they used to have an automated system which built, flashed and booted their code on a variety of motherboards. I think Google provided some of the resources. I don't know if its the sort of thing that you're looking for, but their work might give you a head start on being able to reset systems with GPIOs. si1entDave
Re: Python in base?
On Sat, Dec 27, 2008 at 11:16:06PM +0800, Zhang Huangbin wrote: Jordi Espasa Clofent wrote: Hi misc@, ?Are there some plans to include python in base system (as Perl is at present)? Why make it shipped in base? -- Best regards. Zhang Huangbin - Open Source Mail Server Solution for RHEL/CentOS 5.x: http://code.google.com/p/iredmail/ Because it is needed by pkg_*, and perl is cool.
Re: Python in base?
On Sat, 27 Dec 2008, Jordi Espasa Clofent wrote: Hi misc@, ?Are there some plans to include python in base system (as Perl is at present)? No. We only need one such language in base and perl got there first. -d
