Re: Low power OpenBSD machine
On Fri, Apr 17, 2009 at 07:54:11AM +0200, Markus Hennecke wrote: Generalization is always false. I killed a 1GB SanDisk CF Card because of excessive logging of OpenVPN And what makes you so sure that this was exact cause? Another generalization.
Re: Low power OpenBSD machine
Markus Hennecke wrote: Marco Peereboom schrieb: I work with people that run io tools against flash parts. I still have to see it fail too. Your puny little firewall will never write more to it than a month long stress test. This write fatigue argument is very silly. Generalization is always false. self-reference ?-) I killed a 1GB SanDisk CF Card because of excessive logging of OpenVPN Connections from WLAN Clients which unfortunately had power saving enabled and dropped the connection every few minutes. Took me around 2 or 3 weeks, I just forgot to reduce the log level. Perhaps those stress tests are not stressing enough? That Card was a little bit older, but seldom used, so there is a good chance that that scenario no longer applies. Kind regards, Markus Many writes, all on the same spot, like directory entry?
Re: Low power OpenBSD machine
Aaron Stellman schrieb: On Fri, Apr 17, 2009 at 07:54:11AM +0200, Markus Hennecke wrote: Generalization is always false. I killed a 1GB SanDisk CF Card because of excessive logging of OpenVPN And what makes you so sure that this was exact cause? Another generalization. The inode holding the log files metadata was no longer writeable. What else would cause that? Kind regards, Markus
Re: Low power OpenBSD machine
Tony Abernethy schrieb: I killed a 1GB SanDisk CF Card because of excessive logging of OpenVPN Connections from WLAN Clients which unfortunately had power saving enabled and dropped the connection every few minutes. Took me around 2 or 3 weeks, I just forgot to reduce the log level. Perhaps those stress tests are not stressing enough? That Card was a little bit older, but seldom used, so there is a good chance that that scenario no longer applies. Many writes, all on the same spot, like directory entry? Right. Kind regards, Markus
Re: Low power OpenBSD machine
On Fri, Apr 17, 2009 at 08:19:11AM +0200, Markus Hennecke wrote: Aaron Stellman schrieb: On Fri, Apr 17, 2009 at 07:54:11AM +0200, Markus Hennecke wrote: Generalization is always false. I killed a 1GB SanDisk CF Card because of excessive logging of OpenVPN And what makes you so sure that this was exact cause? Another generalization. The inode holding the log files metadata was no longer writeable. What else would cause that? I don't know what the cause is, and there is no point speculating. what matters is that you made a conclusion based on sample of grand total of 1 case -- that's a pretty bad generalization. Then you instantiate your previous generalization and accuse others of not stress testing enough.
Re: Low power OpenBSD machine
Aaron Stellman schrieb: On Fri, Apr 17, 2009 at 08:19:11AM +0200, Markus Hennecke wrote: Aaron Stellman schrieb: On Fri, Apr 17, 2009 at 07:54:11AM +0200, Markus Hennecke wrote: Generalization is always false. I killed a 1GB SanDisk CF Card because of excessive logging of OpenVPN And what makes you so sure that this was exact cause? Another generalization. The inode holding the log files metadata was no longer writeable. What else would cause that? I don't know what the cause is, and there is no point speculating. So you are saying that there is no relation in writing many times to one inode and the block containing the inode no longer writeable? This seems obvious to me because flash memory is involved. Perhaps you can give a better explaination? what matters is that you made a conclusion based on sample of grand total of 1 case -- that's a pretty bad generalization. So what? Marco made a statement that he has seen no flash memory fail because of writing to it. I have seen it fail once. So the general statement flash memory does not fail because of writing can't be true from my expirience. Thats why I wrote that generalizations are always false. Do I have to add smileys to that sentence? Then you instantiate your previous generalization and accuse others of not stress testing enough. Oh, come on. Pointing out that there may be some use case of flash memory (writing to one block over and over again) that makes it fail is an accusation? Are you serious? Kind regards, Markus
Re: Low power OpenBSD machine
Aaron Stellman wrote: On Fri, Apr 17, 2009 at 08:19:11AM +0200, Markus Hennecke wrote: Aaron Stellman schrieb: On Fri, Apr 17, 2009 at 07:54:11AM +0200, Markus Hennecke wrote: Generalization is always false. I killed a 1GB SanDisk CF Card because of excessive logging of OpenVPN And what makes you so sure that this was exact cause? Another generalization. The inode holding the log files metadata was no longer writeable. What else would cause that? I don't know what the cause is, and there is no point speculating. what matters is that you made a conclusion based on sample of grand total of 1 case -- that's a pretty bad generalization. Then you instantiate your previous generalization and accuse others of not stress testing enough. A sample size of one is quite sufficient in a number of cases: banging on a jar of nitroglycerin. (many) repetitive writes to one spot on the disk. The problem is that that one needs to be the right one.
Re: Low power OpenBSD machine
On Fri, Apr 17, 2009 at 09:44:18AM +0200, Markus Hennecke wrote: The inode holding the log files metadata was no longer writeable. What else would cause that? I don't know what the cause is, and there is no point speculating. So you are saying that there is no relation in writing many times to one inode and the block containing the inode no longer writeable? This seems obvious to me because flash memory is involved. Perhaps you can give a better explaination? No better explanation, but flash tends to move stuff around (dynamic remapping of blocks) to avoid writing the same block over and over again. They do this precisely to avoid the problem you describe. what matters is that you made a conclusion based on sample of grand total of 1 case -- that's a pretty bad generalization. So what? Marco made a statement that he has seen no flash memory fail because of writing to it. I have seen it fail once. So the general statement flash memory does not fail because of writing can't be true from my expirience. Thats why I wrote that generalizations are always false. Do I have to add smileys to that sentence? I think people are mostly amused by your generalization that generalizations are always false. At least, I was. I think you should've topped it off with an except this one. Then you instantiate your previous generalization and accuse others of not stress testing enough. Oh, come on. Pointing out that there may be some use case of flash memory (writing to one block over and over again) that makes it fail is an accusation? Are you serious? It's not easy to write to one block over and over again on dynamically remapping flash media, but you can force this (fill all blocks except one and then rewrite it over and over again). (Not arguing that it is or is not possible to break flash storage by repeated writing, just pointing out some technicallities) Paul 'WEiRD' de Weerd -- [++-]+++.+++[---].+++[+ +++-].++[-]+.--.[-] http://www.weirdnet.nl/
Re: I can't download OpenBSD 4.5, 550 /pub/OpenBSD/4.5: Permission denied.
--- a.angerer log, stardate: 04/16/2009 11:05 PM following transmission from Bob Beck That's funny. it works for me.. I wonder what your issue is? -Bob *lol* Thank you Bob. Best answer for this question. Regards Andreas
4.5 arrived in Bielefeld/Germany
4.5 arrived in Bielefeld/Germany
Re: problem with multiport vlan with OpenBSD
it would be a good idea but the problem is that you cannot assign an IP address to a bridge interface I think this problem has no solution... thanks On Thu, 16 Apr 2009, Matthew Dempsky wrote: On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 1:10 PM, RJ45 r...@slacknet.com wrote: I cannot use the same vlan name and I need an unique name because I must runa a dhcp server on vlan. If I have t ocreate a new vlanName for each vr1 vr2 and vr3 how do I run a dhcpd on interface vlan100 ? I think what Henning is suggesting is to do something like: ifconfig vlan1100 vlan 100 vlandev vr1 ifconfig vlan2100 vlan 100 vlandev vr2 ifconfig vlan3100 vlan 100 vlandev vr3 ifconfig bridge100 create brconfig bridge100 add vlan1100 brconfig bridge100 add vlan2100 brconfig bridge100 add vlan3100 ifconfig bridge100 inet 10.0.0.1 netmask 255.255.255.0 up dhcpd bridge100 (Untested, probably missing some steps.)
Re: problem with multiport vlan with OpenBSD
RJ45 wrote: it would be a good idea but the problem is that you cannot assign an IP address to a bridge interface I think this problem has no solution... See below, you still can have IP address to interface, use bridge and vlan as well. I do. thanks On Thu, 16 Apr 2009, Matthew Dempsky wrote: On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 1:10 PM, RJ45 r...@slacknet.com wrote: I cannot use the same vlan name and I need an unique name because I must runa a dhcp server on vlan. If I have t ocreate a new vlanName for each vr1 vr2 and vr3 how do I run a dhcpd on interface vlan100 ? I think what Henning is suggesting is to do something like: ifconfig vlan1100 vlan 100 vlandev vr1 ifconfig vlan2100 vlan 100 vlandev vr2 ifconfig vlan3100 vlan 100 vlandev vr3 ifconfig bridge100 create brconfig bridge100 add vlan1100 brconfig bridge100 add vlan2100 brconfig bridge100 add vlan3100 ifconfig bridge100 inet 10.0.0.1 netmask 255.255.255.0 up dhcpd bridge100 (Untested, probably missing some steps.) # ifconfig lo0: flags=8049UP,LOOPBACK,RUNNING,MULTICAST mtu 33160 priority: 0 groups: lo inet 127.0.0.1 netmask 0xff00 inet6 ::1 prefixlen 128 inet6 fe80::1%lo0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x4 dc0: flags=8943UP,BROADCAST,RUNNING,PROMISC,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST mtu 1500 lladdr 00:03:ba:13:3e:93 description: Uplink priority: 0 groups: egress media: Ethernet 100baseTX full-duplex status: active inet 66.63.12.66 netmask 0xffc0 broadcast 66.63.12.127 inet6 fe80::203:baff:fe13:3e93%dc0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x1 dc1: flags=8943UP,BROADCAST,RUNNING,PROMISC,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST mtu 1500 lladdr 00:03:ba:13:3e:94 description: LAN priority: 0 media: Ethernet 100baseTX full-duplex status: active inet6 fe80::203:baff:fe13:3e94%dc1 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x2 enc0: flags=0 mtu 1536 priority: 0 vlan1002: flags=8943UP,BROADCAST,RUNNING,PROMISC,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST mtu 1500 lladdr 00:03:ba:13:3e:94 priority: 0 vlan: 2 priority: 0 parent interface: dc1 groups: vlan inet6 fe80::203:baff:fe13:3e94%vlan1002 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x5 vlan2: flags=8943UP,BROADCAST,RUNNING,PROMISC,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST mtu 1500 lladdr 00:03:ba:13:3e:93 priority: 0 vlan: 2 priority: 0 parent interface: dc0 groups: vlan inet6 fe80::203:baff:fe13:3e93%vlan2 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x6 bridge1: flags=41UP,RUNNING mtu 1500 priority: 0 groups: bridge bridge2: flags=41UP,RUNNING mtu 1500 priority: 0 groups: bridge pflog0: flags=141UP,RUNNING,PROMISC mtu 33160 priority: 0 groups: pflog #
Re: 4.5 arrived in Bielefeld/Germany
2009/4/17 Michiel van Baak mich...@vanbaak.info: On 10:40, Fri 17 Apr 09, zpo wrote: 4.5 arrived in Bielefeld/Germany And also in Denhaag/Netherlands Where did you order? -- We spend the first twelve months of our children's lives teaching them to walk and talk and the next twelve telling them to sit down and shut up.
Re: problem with multiport vlan with OpenBSD
Daniel Ouellet wrote: RJ45 wrote: it would be a good idea but the problem is that you cannot assign an IP address to a bridge interface I think this problem has no solution... See below, you still can have IP address to interface, use bridge and vlan as well. I do. If that could possibly help you a little bit. Here is more details for you at the end of the email as in operation for many months now. Hope this help anyway. And if you don't want to assign an ip address to a physical interface, you could always assign one to a loopback interface as well. I do that in some other setup. Anyway, hope if gives you some example to work with and possibly solve your needs. Best, Daniel PS: The full duplex is not needed if you have switch that works well in auto negotiation mode, witch all recent does, but I fix it on the switch as well as on the bridge here for other reason, so just don't go at it like that if you do not need it. = # ls hostname.* hostname.dc0 hostname.dc1 hostname.vlan1002 hostname.vlan2 # ls bridgename.* bridgename.bridge1 bridgename.bridge2 # cat hostname.* inet 66.63.12.66 255.255.255.192 NONE media 100baseTX mediaopt full-duplex description Uplink up media 100baseTX mediaopt full-duplex description LAN up vlan 2 vlandev dc1 up vlan 2 vlandev dc0 # cat bridgename.* add dc0 add dc1 up add vlan2 add vlan1002 up
Re: 4.5 arrived in Bielefeld/Germany
On 11:37, Fri 17 Apr 09, Jasper Valentijn wrote: 2009/4/17 Michiel van Baak mich...@vanbaak.info: On 10:40, Fri 17 Apr 09, zpo wrote: 4.5 arrived in Bielefeld/Germany And also in Denhaag/Netherlands Where did you order? Pre-ordered from kd85 back in the days the order site was still linked from the main openbsd website. (same day as pre-orders came available) received my UPS tracking number yesterday and a box with loads of kd85 tape on it arrived this morning at 9:30 -- We spend the first twelve months of our children's lives teaching them to walk and talk and the next twelve telling them to sit down and shut up. -- Michiel van Baak mich...@vanbaak.eu http://michiel.vanbaak.eu GnuPG key: http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=getsearch=0x71C946BD Why is it drug addicts and computer aficionados are both called users?
Re: problem with multiport vlan with OpenBSD
ok thank you for the configuration, but I have one more problem. aside vlan100 and vlan 101 I need to have i on physical vr1 vr2 vr3 but also the default native vlan (VLAN 1 UNTAGGED) needs to be forwarded to vr1 vr2 vr3 no I Can only do it adding physical vr1 vr2 vr3 to the bridge, and after doing this everything is messed up On Fri, 17 Apr 2009, Daniel Ouellet wrote: Daniel Ouellet wrote: RJ45 wrote: it would be a good idea but the problem is that you cannot assign an IP address to a bridge interface I think this problem has no solution... See below, you still can have IP address to interface, use bridge and vlan as well. I do. If that could possibly help you a little bit. Here is more details for you at the end of the email as in operation for many months now. Hope this help anyway. And if you don't want to assign an ip address to a physical interface, you could always assign one to a loopback interface as well. I do that in some other setup. Anyway, hope if gives you some example to work with and possibly solve your needs. Best, Daniel PS: The full duplex is not needed if you have switch that works well in auto negotiation mode, witch all recent does, but I fix it on the switch as well as on the bridge here for other reason, so just don't go at it like that if you do not need it. = # ls hostname.* hostname.dc0 hostname.dc1 hostname.vlan1002 hostname.vlan2 # ls bridgename.* bridgename.bridge1 bridgename.bridge2 # cat hostname.* inet 66.63.12.66 255.255.255.192 NONE media 100baseTX mediaopt full-duplex description Uplink up media 100baseTX mediaopt full-duplex description LAN up vlan 2 vlandev dc1 up vlan 2 vlandev dc0 # cat bridgename.* add dc0 add dc1 up add vlan2 add vlan1002 up
Re: problem with multiport vlan with OpenBSD
RJ45 wrote: ok thank you for the configuration, but I have one more problem. Your welcome. aside vlan100 and vlan 101 I need to have i on physical vr1 vr2 vr3 but also the default native vlan (VLAN 1 UNTAGGED) needs to be forwarded to vr1 vr2 vr3 I assume you wrote, that you want IP's on each interface. My example show IP's on the physical interface dc0. If you want IP's on them, put them on. Or I guess it might be better to create lo1, lo2, lo3 or what ever you want, put IP's on them and then make them part of the vlan you want them in. Nothing say you can't have multiple lox interfaces and use them as you want. If you look at my example, the unlag vlan pass right through dc0 and dc1 via the bridge1 and then an other set of IP's on vlan 2 pass between the same interface via bridge2. So, what's really your problem here? Bridge all your interface on bridge10 of you want and add a lox interface to it if you want that too. Why not? no I Can only do it adding physical vr1 vr2 vr3 to the bridge, and after doing this everything is messed up Start by doing two interface setup. Then add one more, etc. It does work. And then plug your dhcp on the vlan/bridge you want after that. I sent you a working setup, so start from there and move on. I even run pf on it too. That could be a little more tricky when you had more interface, but still a good play ground to be on. (; Unless I really don't understand your question, witch I think I did understand it. There isn't any problem doing what you want to do at all. Do, one step, test and do the next and you will get there. Hope it help you anyway, but I think you have all that you need now. Best, Daniel
Re: problem with multiport vlan with OpenBSD
RJ45 wrote: ok thank you for the configuration, but I have one more problem. aside vlan100 and vlan 101 I need to have i on physical vr1 vr2 vr3 but also the default native vlan (VLAN 1 UNTAGGED) needs to be forwarded to vr1 vr2 vr3 no I Can only do it adding physical vr1 vr2 vr3 to the bridge, and after doing this everything is messed up Why not? I can add vlan only to bridge as well. The only part I am not sure is the capability to add loopback to bridge. Obviously this would need to be tested. If I get some time today I might try to add a loopback interface to a bridge. I use plenty of loopback interface for various things and I assume you could put in into a bridge, but I can't say for sure. But you sure can put them on the interface anyway, or vlan with an interface as the parent as I show you before and add it to the bridge. If loopback can't be use that way then you can put IP on interface via different vlan, that for sure is possible and then add that vlan to your bridge. See here, look at bridge2 is made of vlan only and bridge 1 is mad of physical interfaces: # brconfig bridge1: flags=41UP,RUNNING priority 32768 hellotime 2 fwddelay 15 maxage 20 holdcnt 6 proto rstp dc1 flags=3LEARNING,DISCOVER port 2 ifpriority 0 ifcost 0 dc0 flags=3LEARNING,DISCOVER port 1 ifpriority 0 ifcost 0 Addresses (max cache: 100, timeout: 240): 00:03:ba:4e:6d:aa dc1 0 flags=0 00:03:ba:27:56:bf dc1 0 flags=0 00:03:ba:0a:36:0c dc1 1 flags=0 00:03:ba:0f:e5:03 dc1 0 flags=0 00:18:73:53:7e:40 dc1 1 flags=0 00:10:e0:00:c7:08 dc1 0 flags=0 00:18:73:53:7e:58 dc1 1 flags=0 00:03:ba:2b:41:96 dc1 0 flags=0 00:03:ba:68:4a:53 dc1 0 flags=0 00:03:ba:10:49:85 dc1 1 flags=0 00:03:ba:0f:c3:87 dc1 1 flags=0 00:03:ba:2a:8b:9c dc1 1 flags=0 00:03:ba:0f:e4:35 dc1 1 flags=0 00:02:b3:40:db:a1 dc1 1 flags=0 00:03:ba:0f:e4:2f dc1 0 flags=0 00:03:ba:4e:6d:fc dc1 1 flags=0 00:1f:5b:38:fc:30 dc1 1 flags=0 00:03:ba:36:5a:9a dc1 0 flags=0 00:03:ba:0f:e4:61 dc1 1 flags=0 00:09:7c:d6:52:80 dc0 1 flags=0 00:0d:28:5e:a7:40 dc1 1 flags=0 00:03:ba:0f:e4:1f dc1 1 flags=0 bridge2: flags=41UP,RUNNING priority 32768 hellotime 2 fwddelay 15 maxage 20 holdcnt 6 proto rstp vlan1002 flags=3LEARNING,DISCOVER port 5 ifpriority 0 ifcost 0 vlan2 flags=3LEARNING,DISCOVER port 6 ifpriority 0 ifcost 0 Addresses (max cache: 100, timeout: 240): 00:30:94:c4:32:72 vlan1002 0 flags=0 00:13:1a:59:1d:c4 vlan1002 1 flags=0 00:09:7c:d6:52:80 vlan2 1 flags=0 00:18:73:53:7e:58 vlan1002 1 flags=0 00:04:f2:02:06:10 vlan1002 1 flags=0 00:09:b7:0a:84:ff vlan1002 0 flags=0 00:07:eb:6a:a9:39 vlan1002 0 flags=0 #
Re: 4.5 arrived in Bielefeld/Germany
On Fri, 17 Apr 2009 10:40:55 +0200 zpo peter.voi...@gmx.net wrote: 4.5 arrived in Bielefeld/Germany arrived in Hannover/Germany Thanks Wim, great job regards Rafael
Re: I need to mount in a normal account
Hi. Right now i have written db ALL=NOPASSWD:/sbin/mount /mnt/cd0, /sbin/umount /mnt/cd0, but it seems that isn't correct. What could i write? I was typing the root password, so i have tried the user password and it works fine. THank you very much.
Re: 4.5 arrived in Bielefeld/Germany
On 10:40, Fri 17 Apr 09, zpo wrote: 4.5 arrived in Bielefeld/Germany And also in Denhaag/Netherlands -- Michiel van Baak mich...@vanbaak.eu http://michiel.vanbaak.eu GnuPG key: http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=getsearch=0x71C946BD Why is it drug addicts and computer aficionados are both called users?
Re: problem with multiport vlan with OpenBSD
Thanks for all the hints. I solved te problem in this way and everything works: # configure vlan1 (Default) ip interface ifconfig vr1 172.16.1.254 netmask 255.255.255.0 ifconfig vr2 up ifconfig vr3 up # configure VLAN 100 (TAG 100) on physical interfaces use pseudo names ifconfig vlan1100 vlan 100 vlandev vr1 ifconfig vlan2100 vlan 100 vlandev vr2 ifconfig vlan3100 vlan 100 vlandev vr3 # bridge pseudo vlans together with physical interfaces so that vlans # is forwarded to all physical ports ifconfig bridge100 create ifconfig bridge100 add vlan1100 add vlan2100 add vlan3100 add vr1 add vr2 add vr3 up # assign IP addres to vlan1100 (VLAN 100) ip interface ifconfig vlan1100 inet 172.16.100.254 netmask 255.255.255.0 up # configure VLAN 101 (TAG 101) on physical interfaces use pseudo names ifconfig vlan1101 vlan 101 vlandev vr1 ifconfig vlan2101 vlan 101 vlandev vr2 ifconfig vlan3101 vlan 101 vlandev vr3 # bridge pseudo vlans together with physical interfaces so that vlans # is forwarded to all physical ports ifconfig bridge101 create brconfig bridge101 add vlan1101 add vlan2101 add vlan3101 up # assign IP address to vlan1101 (VLAN 101) ip interface ifconfig vlan1101 inet 172.16.101.254 netmask 255.255.255.0 # start dhcp /usr/local/sbin/dhcpd vlan1100 vlan1101 everything works, I can attach a wifi access point to whatever physical port vr1 vr2 or vr3, and vlans are forwarded to all ports thank you Rick On Fri, 17 Apr 2009, Daniel Ouellet wrote: RJ45 wrote: ok thank you for the configuration, but I have one more problem. aside vlan100 and vlan 101 I need to have i on physical vr1 vr2 vr3 but also the default native vlan (VLAN 1 UNTAGGED) needs to be forwarded to vr1 vr2 vr3 no I Can only do it adding physical vr1 vr2 vr3 to the bridge, and after doing this everything is messed up Why not? I can add vlan only to bridge as well. The only part I am not sure is the capability to add loopback to bridge. Obviously this would need to be tested. If I get some time today I might try to add a loopback interface to a bridge. I use plenty of loopback interface for various things and I assume you could put in into a bridge, but I can't say for sure. But you sure can put them on the interface anyway, or vlan with an interface as the parent as I show you before and add it to the bridge. If loopback can't be use that way then you can put IP on interface via different vlan, that for sure is possible and then add that vlan to your bridge. See here, look at bridge2 is made of vlan only and bridge 1 is mad of physical interfaces: # brconfig bridge1: flags=41UP,RUNNING priority 32768 hellotime 2 fwddelay 15 maxage 20 holdcnt 6 proto rstp dc1 flags=3LEARNING,DISCOVER port 2 ifpriority 0 ifcost 0 dc0 flags=3LEARNING,DISCOVER port 1 ifpriority 0 ifcost 0 Addresses (max cache: 100, timeout: 240): 00:03:ba:4e:6d:aa dc1 0 flags=0 00:03:ba:27:56:bf dc1 0 flags=0 00:03:ba:0a:36:0c dc1 1 flags=0 00:03:ba:0f:e5:03 dc1 0 flags=0 00:18:73:53:7e:40 dc1 1 flags=0 00:10:e0:00:c7:08 dc1 0 flags=0 00:18:73:53:7e:58 dc1 1 flags=0 00:03:ba:2b:41:96 dc1 0 flags=0 00:03:ba:68:4a:53 dc1 0 flags=0 00:03:ba:10:49:85 dc1 1 flags=0 00:03:ba:0f:c3:87 dc1 1 flags=0 00:03:ba:2a:8b:9c dc1 1 flags=0 00:03:ba:0f:e4:35 dc1 1 flags=0 00:02:b3:40:db:a1 dc1 1 flags=0 00:03:ba:0f:e4:2f dc1 0 flags=0 00:03:ba:4e:6d:fc dc1 1 flags=0 00:1f:5b:38:fc:30 dc1 1 flags=0 00:03:ba:36:5a:9a dc1 0 flags=0 00:03:ba:0f:e4:61 dc1 1 flags=0 00:09:7c:d6:52:80 dc0 1 flags=0 00:0d:28:5e:a7:40 dc1 1 flags=0 00:03:ba:0f:e4:1f dc1 1 flags=0 bridge2: flags=41UP,RUNNING priority 32768 hellotime 2 fwddelay 15 maxage 20 holdcnt 6 proto rstp vlan1002 flags=3LEARNING,DISCOVER port 5 ifpriority 0 ifcost 0 vlan2 flags=3LEARNING,DISCOVER port 6 ifpriority 0 ifcost 0 Addresses (max cache: 100, timeout: 240): 00:30:94:c4:32:72 vlan1002 0 flags=0 00:13:1a:59:1d:c4 vlan1002 1 flags=0 00:09:7c:d6:52:80 vlan2 1 flags=0 00:18:73:53:7e:58 vlan1002 1 flags=0 00:04:f2:02:06:10 vlan1002 1 flags=0 00:09:b7:0a:84:ff vlan1002 0 flags=0 00:07:eb:6a:a9:39 vlan1002 0 flags=0 #
Re: problem with multiport vlan with OpenBSD
* RJ45 r...@slacknet.com [2009-04-17 11:27]: it would be a good idea but the problem is that you cannot assign an IP address to a bridge interface so just assign it to one of the bridge member interfaces. c'mon... -- Henning Brauer, h...@bsws.de, henn...@openbsd.org BS Web Services, http://bsws.de Full-Service ISP - Secure Hosting, Mail and DNS Services Dedicated Servers, Rootservers, Application Hosting - Hamburg Amsterdam
Re: Low power OpenBSD machine
* Markus Hennecke markus-henne...@markus-hennecke.de [2009-04-17 09:54]: So you are saying that there is no relation in writing many times to one inode and the block containing the inode no longer writeable? This seems obvious to me because flash memory is involved. Perhaps you can give a better explaination? you're understanding is wrong. if the cell is kapot, a new one gets mapped in, done. So what? Marco made a statement that he has seen no flash memory fail because of writing to it. I have seen it fail once. but you don't know wether writing was the cause at all. -- Henning Brauer, h...@bsws.de, henn...@openbsd.org BS Web Services, http://bsws.de Full-Service ISP - Secure Hosting, Mail and DNS Services Dedicated Servers, Rootservers, Application Hosting - Hamburg Amsterdam
Re: Low power OpenBSD machine
* Markus Hennecke markus-henne...@markus-hennecke.de [2009-04-17 08:06]: Marco Peereboom schrieb: I work with people that run io tools against flash parts. I still have to see it fail too. Your puny little firewall will never write more to it than a month long stress test. This write fatigue argument is very silly. Generalization is always false. I killed a 1GB SanDisk CF Card because of excessive logging of OpenVPN Connections from WLAN Clients which unfortunately had power saving enabled and dropped the connection every few minutes. Took me around 2 or 3 weeks, I just forgot to reduce the log level. Perhaps those stress tests are not stressing enough? That Card was a little bit older, but seldom used, so there is a good chance that that scenario no longer applies. and I bet it didn't die because of the excessive writes but something else. And until you show me proof that all reserve cells were mapped in and in use I cannot be convinced of the opposite. -- Henning Brauer, h...@bsws.de, henn...@openbsd.org BS Web Services, http://bsws.de Full-Service ISP - Secure Hosting, Mail and DNS Services Dedicated Servers, Rootservers, Application Hosting - Hamburg Amsterdam
Re: problem with multiport vlan with OpenBSD
* RJ45 r...@slacknet.com [2009-04-17 14:08]: ifconfig bridge100 add vlan1100 add vlan2100 add vlan3100 add vr1 add vr2 add vr3 up congrats, now tehg speration between vlan100 and the 'native' vlan is gone. -- Henning Brauer, h...@bsws.de, henn...@openbsd.org BS Web Services, http://bsws.de Full-Service ISP - Secure Hosting, Mail and DNS Services Dedicated Servers, Rootservers, Application Hosting - Hamburg Amsterdam
Re: I can't download OpenBSD 4.5, 550 /pub/OpenBSD/4.5: Permission denied.
Ok, thank you very much.
Re: generic.mp on laptop question: resolved
On Fri, Apr 17, 2009 at 12:02 AM, Denny White denny...@cableone.net wrote: On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 08:41:27PM -0500, Denny White spoke thusly: Laptop is a Toshiba L305-S5921. I'm running -current on it with a snapshot from 04/14/09. No, I couldn't wait for my new cd's presently in route. ;) Mostly done just for learning purposes to see what I could get going on the new laptop which was given to me as a present. I would've probably chosen a Lenovo if I'd have had my choice, but I'm not going to turn down a free laptop. Built GENERIC.MP which ran fine for me. When I do sysctl hw.sensors I get hw.sensors.acpiac0.indicator0=On (power supply) hw.sensors.acpibat0.volt0=12.34 VDC (voltage) hw.sensors.acpibat0.volt1=12.34 VDC (current voltage) hw.sensors.acpibat0.amphour0=4.50 Ah (last full capacity) hw.sensors.acpibat0.amphour1=0.00 Ah (warning capacity) hw.sensors.acpibat0.amphour2=0.00 Ah (low capacity) hw.sensors.acpibat0.amphour3=4.50 Ah (remaining capacity), OK hw.sensors.acpibat0.raw0=0 (battery full), OK hw.sensors.acpibat0.raw1=0 (rate) hw.sensors.cpu0.temp0=45.00 degC which doesn't show cpu1. Next is the top portion of top's output which does show both cpu's: load averages: 1.09, 1.02, 0.9901:03:49 22 processes: 21 idle, 1 on processor CPU0 states: 3.7% user, 0.0% nice, 1.8% system, 0.3% interrupt, 94.2% idle CPU1 states: 4.0% user, 0.0% nice, 1.8% system, 0.0% interrupt, 94.2% idle Memory: Real: 7520K/349M act/tot Free: 2538M Swap: 0K/1028M used/tot Here's dmesg which also shows both cpu's but fails on acpitz0 at acpi0acpitz0: THRM: failed to read _TMP which I thought might have something to do with the issue: OpenBSD 4.5-current (GENERIC.MP) #1: Wed Apr 15 14:22:16 UTC 2009 r...@lapdaddy.cableone.net:/usr/src/sys/arch/i386/compile/GENERIC.MP cpu0: Intel(R) Pentium(R) Dual CPU T3400 @ 2.16GHz (GenuineIntel 686-class) 2.17 GHz cpu0: FPU,V86,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,CFLUS H,DS,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SS,HTT,TM,SBF,SSE3,MWAIT,DS-CPL,EST,TM2,CX16,xTPR real mem = 3081773056 (2939MB) avail mem = 2983903232 (2845MB) mainbus0 at root bios0 at mainbus0: AT/286+ BIOS, date 12/23/08, SMBIOS rev. 2.4 @ 0xe8120 (35 entries) bios0: vendor INSYDE version 1.60 date 12/23/2008 bios0: TOSHIBA Satellite L305 acpi0 at bios0: rev 2 acpi0: tables DSDT FACP HPET APIC MCFG ASF! SLIC BOOT SSDT acpi0: wakeup devices LID0(S4) P32_(S0) UHC1(S3) UHC2(S3) ECHI(S3) EXP1(S0) EXP2(S0) EXP3(S4) EXP4(S4) EXP5(S4) EXP6(S4) AZAL(S4) acpitimer0 at acpi0: 3579545 Hz, 24 bits acpihpet0 at acpi0: 14318179 Hz acpimadt0 at acpi0 addr 0xfee0: PC-AT compat cpu0 at mainbus0: apid 0 (boot processor) cpu0: apic clock running at 166MHz cpu1 at mainbus0: apid 1 (application processor) cpu1: Intel(R) Pentium(R) Dual CPU T3400 @ 2.16GHz (GenuineIntel 686-class) 2.17 GHz cpu1: FPU,V86,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,CFLUS H,DS,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SS,HTT,TM,SBF,SSE3,MWAIT,DS-CPL,EST,TM2,CX16,xTPR ioapic0 at mainbus0: apid 4 pa 0xfec0, version 20, 24 pins ioapic0: misconfigured as apic 0, remapped to apid 4 acpiprt0 at acpi0: bus 0 (PCI0) acpiprt1 at acpi0: bus 4 (P32_) acpiprt2 at acpi0: bus 2 (EXP1) acpiprt3 at acpi0: bus 3 (EXP2) acpiprt4 at acpi0: bus -1 (EXP3) acpiprt5 at acpi0: bus -1 (EXP4) acpiprt6 at acpi0: bus 6 (EXP5) acpiprt7 at acpi0: bus -1 (EXP6) acpiprt8 at acpi0: bus -1 (PEGP) acpiec0 at acpi0 acpicpu0 at acpi0 acpicpu1 at acpi0 acpitz0 at acpi0acpitz0: THRM: failed to read _TMP : failed to read _TMP acpibtn0 at acpi0: PWRB acpibtn1 at acpi0: LID0 acpiac0 at acpi0: AC unit online acpibat0 at acpi0: BAT0 model PA3534U-1BRS serial 7C3B type Li-ion acpivideo at acpi0 not configured acpivideo at acpi0 not configured bios0: ROM list: 0xc/0xfa00! 0xd/0x1000 0xd1000/0x2c00! cpu0: unknown Enhanced SpeedStep CPU, msr 0x060f0d2a06000d2a cpu0: using only highest and lowest power states cpu0: Enhanced SpeedStep 2167 MHz (1372 mV): speeds: 2167, 1000 MHz pci0 at mainbus0 bus 0: configuration mode 1 (bios) pchb0 at pci0 dev 0 function 0 Intel GM45 Host rev 0x07 vga1 at pci0 dev 2 function 0 Intel GM45 Video rev 0x07 wsdisplay0 at vga1 mux 1: console (80x25, vt100 emulation) wsdisplay0: screen 1-5 added (80x25, vt100 emulation) intagp0 at vga1 agp0 at intagp0: aperture at 0xc000, size 0x1000 inteldrm0 at vga1: apic 4 int 16 (irq 11) drm0 at inteldrm0 Intel GM45 Video rev 0x07 at pci0 dev 2 function 1 not configured uhci0 at pci0 dev 26 function 0 Intel 82801I USB rev 0x03: apic 4 int 16 (irq 11) uhci1 at pci0 dev 26 function 1 Intel 82801I USB rev 0x03: apic 4 int 21 (irq 10) ehci0 at pci0 dev 26 function 7 Intel 82801I USB rev 0x03: apic 4 int 19 (irq 11) ehci0: timed out waiting for BIOS usb0 at ehci0: USB revision 2.0 uhub0 at usb0 Intel EHCI root hub rev 2.00/1.00 addr 1 azalia0 at pci0 dev 27 function 0 Intel 82801I HD Audio rev
Re: problem with multiport vlan with OpenBSD
* RJ45 r...@slacknet.com [2009-04-17 12:10]: ok thank you for the configuration, but I have one more problem. aside vlan100 and vlan 101 I need to have i on physical vr1 vr2 vr3 but also the default native vlan (VLAN 1 UNTAGGED) needs to be forwarded to vr1 vr2 vr3 no I Can only do it adding physical vr1 vr2 vr3 to the bridge, and after doing this everything is messed up oh geez. give up already, that's what you want apparently. it is so darned simple. bridge the physical interfaces - both untagged frames (native in that totally awkward, stupid and wrong cizcoe speak) and tagged ones will be bridged unconditionally. exception for tagged packets: if there is a vlan interface with that tag, then the vlan header is stripped and the frame delivered to that vlan interface and not passed on to the bridge. it is all so obvious... bridge0: v1 vr2 vr3 bridge1: vlan1100 vlan2100 vlan3100 etc -- Henning Brauer, h...@bsws.de, henn...@openbsd.org BS Web Services, http://bsws.de Full-Service ISP - Secure Hosting, Mail and DNS Services Dedicated Servers, Rootservers, Application Hosting - Hamburg Amsterdam
Re: Low power OpenBSD machine
2009/4/17 Marco Peereboom sl...@peereboom.us I work with people that run io tools against flash parts. I still have to see it fail too. Your puny little firewall will never write more to it than a month long stress test. This write fatigue argument is very silly. Hey! My firewall may be puny in stature (Net5501), but he is Puffy hearted and on the Internet he is ten feet tall!
ipmi support on a Dell PowerEdge SC1425
... isn't working, at least not for me. Google has found me this sample dmesg from 4.0: http://www.armorlogic.com/openbsd_information_server_compatibility_list.html?action=detailid=dsc1425 And this from Marco Peereboom announcing ipmi support: http://marc.info/?l=openbsd-miscm=112993650617151w=2 but under my amd64 install of 4.4 I get 'not configured'. My current theory is that I've done something dumb. Anyone care to tell me what it is? Dave W OpenBSD 4.4-stable (GENERIC) #0: Tue Jan 27 09:34:13 GMT 2009 r...@constantine:/usr/src/sys/arch/amd64/compile/GENERIC real mem = 523399168 (499MB) avail mem = 507768832 (484MB) mainbus0 at root bios0 at mainbus0: SMBIOS rev. 2.3 @ 0xfa850 (75 entries) bios0: vendor Dell Computer Corporation version A03 date 01/04/2006 bios0: Dell Computer Corporation PowerEdge SC1425 acpi0 at bios0: rev 0 acpi0: tables DSDT FACP APIC SPCR HPET MCFG acpi0: wakeup devices PCI0(S5) PALO(S5) PXH_(S5) PXHB(S5) PXHA(S5) PICH(S5) acpitimer0 at acpi0: 3579545 Hz, 24 bits acpihpet0 at acpi0: 14318179 Hz acpiprt0 at acpi0: bus 0 (PCI0) acpiprt1 at acpi0: bus 1 (PALO) acpiprt2 at acpi0: bus 3 (PXHB) acpiprt3 at acpi0: bus 2 (PXHA) acpiprt4 at acpi0: bus 4 (PICH) acpicpu0 at acpi0 ipmi at mainbus0 not configured cpu0 at mainbus0: (uniprocessor) cpu0: Intel(R) Xeon(TM) CPU 3.20GHz, 3200.49 MHz cpu0: FPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,CFLUSH,DS,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SS,HTT,TM,SBF,SSE3,MWAIT,DS-CPL,CNXT-ID,CX16,xTPR,NXE,LONG cpu0: 2MB 64b/line 8-way L2 cache pci0 at mainbus0 bus 0: configuration mode 1 pchb0 at pci0 dev 0 function 0 Intel E7520 Host rev 0x09 ppb0 at pci0 dev 2 function 0 Intel E7520 PCIE rev 0x09 pci1 at ppb0 bus 1 ppb1 at pci1 dev 0 function 0 Intel PCIE-PCIE rev 0x09 pci2 at ppb1 bus 2 em0 at pci2 dev 4 function 0 Intel PRO/1000MT (82541GI) rev 0x05: irq 15, address 00:15:c5:5d:a0:ba ppb2 at pci1 dev 0 function 2 Intel PCIE-PCIE rev 0x09 pci3 at ppb2 bus 3 uhci0 at pci0 dev 29 function 0 Intel 82801EB/ER USB rev 0x02: irq 15 uhci1 at pci0 dev 29 function 1 Intel 82801EB/ER USB rev 0x02: irq 14 ehci0 at pci0 dev 29 function 7 Intel 82801EB/ER USB2 rev 0x02: irq 11 usb0 at ehci0: USB revision 2.0 uhub0 at usb0 Intel EHCI root hub rev 2.00/1.00 addr 1 ppb3 at pci0 dev 30 function 0 Intel 82801BA Hub-to-PCI rev 0xc2 pci4 at ppb3 bus 4 em1 at pci4 dev 3 function 0 Intel PRO/1000MT (82541GI) rev 0x05: irq 6, address 00:15:c5:5d:a0:bb vga1 at pci4 dev 13 function 0 ATI Radeon VE QY rev 0x00 wsdisplay0 at vga1 mux 1: console (80x25, vt100 emulation) wsdisplay0: screen 1-5 added (80x25, vt100 emulation) drm at vga1 unsupported pcib0 at pci0 dev 31 function 0 Intel 82801EB/ER LPC rev 0x02 pciide0 at pci0 dev 31 function 1 Intel 82801EB/ER IDE rev 0x02: DMA, channel 0 configured to compatibility, channel 1 configured to compatibility pciide0: channel 0 ignored (disabled) pciide0: channel 1 ignored (disabled) pciide1 at pci0 dev 31 function 2 Intel 82801EB SATA rev 0x02: DMA, channel 0 configured to native-PCI, channel 1 configured to native-PCI pciide1: using irq 10 for native-PCI interrupt wd0 at pciide1 channel 0 drive 0: WDC WD800JD-75MSA3 wd0: 16-sector PIO, LBA48, 76293MB, 15625 sectors wd0(pciide1:0:0): using PIO mode 4, Ultra-DMA mode 5 usb1 at uhci0: USB revision 1.0 uhub1 at usb1 Intel UHCI root hub rev 1.00/1.00 addr 1 usb2 at uhci1: USB revision 1.0 uhub2 at usb2 Intel UHCI root hub rev 1.00/1.00 addr 1 isa0 at pcib0 isadma0 at isa0 com0 at isa0 port 0x3f8/8 irq 4: ns16550a, 16 byte fifo pckbc0 at isa0 port 0x60/5 pckbd0 at pckbc0 (kbd slot) pckbc0: using irq 1 for kbd slot wskbd0 at pckbd0: console keyboard, using wsdisplay0 pcppi0 at isa0 port 0x61 midi0 at pcppi0: PC speaker spkr0 at pcppi0 mtrr: Pentium Pro MTRR support uhidev0 at uhub2 port 2 configuration 1 interface 0 CHICONY HP Basic USB Keyboard rev 1.10/3.00 addr 2 uhidev0: iclass 3/1 ukbd0 at uhidev0: 8 modifier keys, 6 key codes wskbd1 at ukbd0 mux 1 wskbd1: connecting to wsdisplay0 softraid0 at root root on wd0a swap on wd0b dump on wd0b
Re: Low power OpenBSD machine
Henning Brauer wrote: * Markus Hennecke markus-henne...@markus-hennecke.de [2009-04-17 08:06]: Marco Peereboom schrieb: I work with people that run io tools against flash parts. I still have to see it fail too. Your puny little firewall will never write more to it than a month long stress test. This write fatigue argument is very silly. Generalization is always false. I killed a 1GB SanDisk CF Card because of excessive logging of OpenVPN Connections from WLAN Clients which unfortunately had power saving enabled and dropped the connection every few minutes. Took me around 2 or 3 weeks, I just forgot to reduce the log level. Perhaps those stress tests are not stressing enough? That Card was a little bit older, but seldom used, so there is a good chance that that scenario no longer applies. and I bet it didn't die because of the excessive writes but something else. And until you show me proof that all reserve cells were mapped in and in use I cannot be convinced of the opposite. Tell me how I can show this. I got the card in a drawer around. Kind regards, Markus
Re: generic.mp on laptop question: resolved
On Fri, Apr 17, 2009 at 06:45:48AM -0500, Neal Hogan spoke thusly: On Fri, Apr 17, 2009 at 12:02 AM, Denny White denny...@cableone.net wrote: ORIGINAL MESSAGE CONTENT SNIPPED FOR BREVITY Okay, dumb-ass me. Sitting here looking at the screen it finally dawned on me I'm not looking at 2 physical cpu's, per se, but instead 2 built onto one chip. Gee, I wish I would've come up with that beforehand instead of opening my mouth and removing any doubt in regards to my hardware ignorance. Only thing in my defense is I've never owned anything like that before. Before getting this laptop given to me, my fastest box was an aging dell dimension Pentium IV 2.66. No dual-cores, no dual-cpu's. Time to slink off now. ;) I'm sure there are other dumb-asses out there ( I just saw one in the mirror a minute ago) . . . your post will come in handy for those dumb-asses who actually check the archives. There are other unintelligent life forms out there? Hallelujah, I'm not alone anymore, and my cd's should arrive today. Life is good. Thanks, Neal. ;) Denny White -- www.nealhogan.net www.lambdaserver.com -- === () ASCII ribbon campaign - against html e-mail /\ www.asciiribbon.org - against proprietary attachments === GnuPG key : 0x1644E79A | http://wwwkeys.nl.pgp.net Fingerprint: D0A9 AD44 1F10 E09E 0E67 EC25 CB44 F2E5 1644 E79A ===
Re: Low power OpenBSD machine
These people run io tools like iogen to it for a month at a time and reuse the flash next time a device needs testing (the flash is just a vessel). If you want to see what iogen does run it on your laptop with iogen -n5 and wait 1 minute. Now try to cold launch firefox. On Fri, Apr 17, 2009 at 07:54:11AM +0200, Markus Hennecke wrote: Marco Peereboom schrieb: I work with people that run io tools against flash parts. I still have to see it fail too. Your puny little firewall will never write more to it than a month long stress test. This write fatigue argument is very silly. Generalization is always false. I killed a 1GB SanDisk CF Card because of excessive logging of OpenVPN Connections from WLAN Clients which unfortunately had power saving enabled and dropped the connection every few minutes. Took me around 2 or 3 weeks, I just forgot to reduce the log level. Perhaps those stress tests are not stressing enough? That Card was a little bit older, but seldom used, so there is a good chance that that scenario no longer applies. Kind regards, Markus
Re: 4.5 arrived in Bielefeld/Germany
2009/4/17 Michiel van Baak mich...@vanbaak.info: On 11:37, Fri 17 Apr 09, Jasper Valentijn wrote: 2009/4/17 Michiel van Baak mich...@vanbaak.info: On 10:40, Fri 17 Apr 09, zpo wrote: 4.5 arrived in Bielefeld/Germany And also in Denhaag/Netherlands Where did you order? Pre-ordered from kd85 back in the days the order site was still linked from the main openbsd website. (same day as pre-orders came available) Ahh ok. I did the same, only a day or so later. received my UPS tracking number yesterday and a box with loads of kd85 tape on it arrived this morning at 9:30 Got my UPS tracking number minutes after my mail to misc@ Why is it drug addicts and computer aficionados are both called users? Both computers and drugs are mind expanding phenomena . -- We spend the first twelve months of our children's lives teaching them to walk and talk and the next twelve telling them to sit down and shut up.
Re: Low power OpenBSD machine
* Markus Hennecke markus-henne...@markus-hennecke.de [2009-04-17 14:42]: Henning Brauer wrote: * Markus Hennecke markus-henne...@markus-hennecke.de [2009-04-17 08:06]: Marco Peereboom schrieb: I work with people that run io tools against flash parts. I still have to see it fail too. Your puny little firewall will never write more to it than a month long stress test. This write fatigue argument is very silly. Generalization is always false. I killed a 1GB SanDisk CF Card because of excessive logging of OpenVPN Connections from WLAN Clients which unfortunately had power saving enabled and dropped the connection every few minutes. Took me around 2 or 3 weeks, I just forgot to reduce the log level. Perhaps those stress tests are not stressing enough? That Card was a little bit older, but seldom used, so there is a good chance that that scenario no longer applies. and I bet it didn't die because of the excessive writes but something else. And until you show me proof that all reserve cells were mapped in and in use I cannot be convinced of the opposite. Tell me how I can show this. I got the card in a drawer around. I dunno wether that info can be gotten from the device without knowing internal details -- Henning Brauer, h...@bsws.de, henn...@openbsd.org BS Web Services, http://bsws.de Full-Service ISP - Secure Hosting, Mail and DNS Services Dedicated Servers, Rootservers, Application Hosting - Hamburg Amsterdam
Re: ipmi support on a Dell PowerEdge SC1425
It is disabled by default because some boxes have issues with it. Read config(8) and enable it in your kernel. On Fri, Apr 17, 2009 at 01:20:21PM +0100, Dave Wilson wrote: ... isn't working, at least not for me. Google has found me this sample dmesg from 4.0: http://www.armorlogic.com/openbsd_information_server_compatibility_list.html?action=detailid=dsc1425 And this from Marco Peereboom announcing ipmi support: http://marc.info/?l=openbsd-miscm=112993650617151w=2 but under my amd64 install of 4.4 I get 'not configured'. My current theory is that I've done something dumb. Anyone care to tell me what it is? Dave W OpenBSD 4.4-stable (GENERIC) #0: Tue Jan 27 09:34:13 GMT 2009 r...@constantine:/usr/src/sys/arch/amd64/compile/GENERIC real mem = 523399168 (499MB) avail mem = 507768832 (484MB) mainbus0 at root bios0 at mainbus0: SMBIOS rev. 2.3 @ 0xfa850 (75 entries) bios0: vendor Dell Computer Corporation version A03 date 01/04/2006 bios0: Dell Computer Corporation PowerEdge SC1425 acpi0 at bios0: rev 0 acpi0: tables DSDT FACP APIC SPCR HPET MCFG acpi0: wakeup devices PCI0(S5) PALO(S5) PXH_(S5) PXHB(S5) PXHA(S5) PICH(S5) acpitimer0 at acpi0: 3579545 Hz, 24 bits acpihpet0 at acpi0: 14318179 Hz acpiprt0 at acpi0: bus 0 (PCI0) acpiprt1 at acpi0: bus 1 (PALO) acpiprt2 at acpi0: bus 3 (PXHB) acpiprt3 at acpi0: bus 2 (PXHA) acpiprt4 at acpi0: bus 4 (PICH) acpicpu0 at acpi0 ipmi at mainbus0 not configured cpu0 at mainbus0: (uniprocessor) cpu0: Intel(R) Xeon(TM) CPU 3.20GHz, 3200.49 MHz cpu0: FPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,CFLUSH,DS,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SS,HTT,TM,SBF,SSE3,MWAIT,DS-CPL,CNXT-ID,CX16,xTPR,NXE,LONG cpu0: 2MB 64b/line 8-way L2 cache pci0 at mainbus0 bus 0: configuration mode 1 pchb0 at pci0 dev 0 function 0 Intel E7520 Host rev 0x09 ppb0 at pci0 dev 2 function 0 Intel E7520 PCIE rev 0x09 pci1 at ppb0 bus 1 ppb1 at pci1 dev 0 function 0 Intel PCIE-PCIE rev 0x09 pci2 at ppb1 bus 2 em0 at pci2 dev 4 function 0 Intel PRO/1000MT (82541GI) rev 0x05: irq 15, address 00:15:c5:5d:a0:ba ppb2 at pci1 dev 0 function 2 Intel PCIE-PCIE rev 0x09 pci3 at ppb2 bus 3 uhci0 at pci0 dev 29 function 0 Intel 82801EB/ER USB rev 0x02: irq 15 uhci1 at pci0 dev 29 function 1 Intel 82801EB/ER USB rev 0x02: irq 14 ehci0 at pci0 dev 29 function 7 Intel 82801EB/ER USB2 rev 0x02: irq 11 usb0 at ehci0: USB revision 2.0 uhub0 at usb0 Intel EHCI root hub rev 2.00/1.00 addr 1 ppb3 at pci0 dev 30 function 0 Intel 82801BA Hub-to-PCI rev 0xc2 pci4 at ppb3 bus 4 em1 at pci4 dev 3 function 0 Intel PRO/1000MT (82541GI) rev 0x05: irq 6, address 00:15:c5:5d:a0:bb vga1 at pci4 dev 13 function 0 ATI Radeon VE QY rev 0x00 wsdisplay0 at vga1 mux 1: console (80x25, vt100 emulation) wsdisplay0: screen 1-5 added (80x25, vt100 emulation) drm at vga1 unsupported pcib0 at pci0 dev 31 function 0 Intel 82801EB/ER LPC rev 0x02 pciide0 at pci0 dev 31 function 1 Intel 82801EB/ER IDE rev 0x02: DMA, channel 0 configured to compatibility, channel 1 configured to compatibility pciide0: channel 0 ignored (disabled) pciide0: channel 1 ignored (disabled) pciide1 at pci0 dev 31 function 2 Intel 82801EB SATA rev 0x02: DMA, channel 0 configured to native-PCI, channel 1 configured to native-PCI pciide1: using irq 10 for native-PCI interrupt wd0 at pciide1 channel 0 drive 0: WDC WD800JD-75MSA3 wd0: 16-sector PIO, LBA48, 76293MB, 15625 sectors wd0(pciide1:0:0): using PIO mode 4, Ultra-DMA mode 5 usb1 at uhci0: USB revision 1.0 uhub1 at usb1 Intel UHCI root hub rev 1.00/1.00 addr 1 usb2 at uhci1: USB revision 1.0 uhub2 at usb2 Intel UHCI root hub rev 1.00/1.00 addr 1 isa0 at pcib0 isadma0 at isa0 com0 at isa0 port 0x3f8/8 irq 4: ns16550a, 16 byte fifo pckbc0 at isa0 port 0x60/5 pckbd0 at pckbc0 (kbd slot) pckbc0: using irq 1 for kbd slot wskbd0 at pckbd0: console keyboard, using wsdisplay0 pcppi0 at isa0 port 0x61 midi0 at pcppi0: PC speaker spkr0 at pcppi0 mtrr: Pentium Pro MTRR support uhidev0 at uhub2 port 2 configuration 1 interface 0 CHICONY HP Basic USB Keyboard rev 1.10/3.00 addr 2 uhidev0: iclass 3/1 ukbd0 at uhidev0: 8 modifier keys, 6 key codes wskbd1 at ukbd0 mux 1 wskbd1: connecting to wsdisplay0 softraid0 at root root on wd0a swap on wd0b dump on wd0b
Re: ipmi support on a Dell PowerEdge SC1425
Dave Wilson wrote: ... isn't working, at least not for me. Google has found me this sample dmesg from 4.0: http://www.armorlogic.com/openbsd_information_server_compatibility_list.html?action=detailid=dsc1425 And this from Marco Peereboom announcing ipmi support: http://marc.info/?l=openbsd-miscm=112993650617151w=2 but under my amd64 install of 4.4 I get 'not configured'. My current theory is that I've done something dumb. Anyone care to tell me what it is? Dave W It's not enabled by default. (not sure why) To try it you need to enable ipmi in the kernel. Either by using the config option (-c) at the boot prompt and typing 'enable ipmi' to try it out at that particular boot (see boot(8), boot_config(8)), or by using config(8) to enable it persistently at every boot.
Re: mismatch output net-snmp -current
Agung T. Apriyanto-2 wrote: i found mismatch output from snmpwalk in -current net-snmp, sample bellow r...@cadangan[patches]# snmpwalk -v 1 -c public localhost .1.3.6.1.2.1.4.20.1.2 IP-MIB::ipAdEntIfIndex.10.100.0.1 = INTEGER: 1 IP-MIB::ipAdEntIfIndex.10.100.66.1 = INTEGER: 5 IP-MIB::ipAdEntIfIndex.10.100.67.1 = INTEGER: 6 IP-MIB::ipAdEntIfIndex.10.100.68.1 = INTEGER: 7 IP-MIB::ipAdEntIfIndex.10.100.69.1 = INTEGER: 8 IP-MIB::ipAdEntIfIndex.58.145.172.241 = INTEGER: 2 IP-MIB::ipAdEntIfIndex.127.0.0.1 = INTEGER: 4 r...@cadangan[patches]# snmpwalk -v 1 -c public localhost .1.3.6.1.2.1.2.2.1.3 IF-MIB::ifType.1 = INTEGER: softwareLoopback(24) IF-MIB::ifType.2 = INTEGER: ethernetCsmacd(6) IF-MIB::ifType.3 = INTEGER: ethernetCsmacd(6) IF-MIB::ifType.4 = INTEGER: 244 IF-MIB::ifType.5 = INTEGER: ethernetCsmacd(6) IF-MIB::ifType.6 = INTEGER: ethernetCsmacd(6) IF-MIB::ifType.7 = INTEGER: ethernetCsmacd(6) IF-MIB::ifType.8 = INTEGER: ethernetCsmacd(6) IF-MIB::ifType.9 = INTEGER: 245 interface index 5,6,7,8 have the right ip, but there's a mismatch at index 1, 2 and 4 of IP-MIB. any of you have the same problems ? regards, -Agung Hi. We are seeing the same problem. This is what I get: mon01:~# snmpwalk -v 2c -c public xxx .1.3.6.1.2.1.2.2.1.2 IF-MIB::ifDescr.1 = STRING: lo0 IF-MIB::ifDescr.2 = STRING: em0 IF-MIB::ifDescr.3 = STRING: em1 IF-MIB::ifDescr.4 = STRING: em2 IF-MIB::ifDescr.5 = STRING: em3 IF-MIB::ifDescr.6 = STRING: enc0 IF-MIB::ifDescr.7 = STRING: bnx1 IF-MIB::ifDescr.8 = STRING: bnx0 mon01:~# snmpwalk -v 2c -c public xxx .1.3.6.1.2.1.4.20.1.2 IP-MIB::ipAdEntIfIndex.xxx.xxx.240.147 = INTEGER: 1 IP-MIB::ipAdEntIfIndex.xxx.xxx.240.162 = INTEGER: 2 IP-MIB::ipAdEntIfIndex.127.0.0.1 = INTEGER: 6 IP-MIB::ipAdEntIfIndex.xxx.xxx.168.54 = INTEGER: 3 It should be: IP-MIB::ipAdEntIfIndex.xxx.xxx.240.147 = INTEGER: 3 IP-MIB::ipAdEntIfIndex.xxx.xxx.240.162 = INTEGER: 3 IP-MIB::ipAdEntIfIndex.127.0.0.1 = INTEGER: 1 IP-MIB::ipAdEntIfIndex.xxx.xxx.168.54 = INTEGER: 4 /Johan -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/mismatch-output-net-snmp--current-tp22454362p23099146.html Sent from the openbsd user - misc mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
4.5 arrived in Canada
This year I was watching more closely for pre-order page to be updated and paid a few extra bucks for express shipping. Same picture - two sizes: 0.5M: http://gallery.bax.on.ca/OpenBSD45s.jpg 5.0M: http://gallery.bax.on.ca/OpenBSD45.jpg Frank
Re: 4.5 arrived in Canada
Absolutely *Splendid* As of today for order to France what is the channel ? Regards, Jean-Frangois Le vendredi 17 avril 2009 18:29:43, vous avez icrit : This year I was watching more closely for pre-order page to be updated and paid a few extra bucks for express shipping. Same picture - two sizes: 0.5M: http://gallery.bax.on.ca/OpenBSD45s.jpg 5.0M: http://gallery.bax.on.ca/OpenBSD45.jpg Frank
4.5 arrived in Poissy/France
4.5 (and t-shird) arrived in Poissy, France. Thanks for this great work !
Re: 4.5 arrived in Canada
http://openbsd.org/orders.html there are find a respective seller from you country. Regards. --- --- ficovh - http://bsdguy.net In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth. Gen. 1:1 --- On Fri, 4/17/09, Jean-Francois jfsimon1...@gmail.com wrote: From: Jean-Francois jfsimon1...@gmail.com Subject: Re: 4.5 arrived in Canada To: misc@openbsd.org Date: Friday, April 17, 2009, 5:37 PM Absolutely *Splendid* As of today for order to France what is the channel ? Regards, Jean-Frangois Le vendredi 17 avril 2009 18:29:43, vous avez icrit : This year I was watching more closely for pre-order page to be updated and paid a few extra bucks for express shipping. Same picture - two sizes: 0.5M: http://gallery.bax.on.ca/OpenBSD45s.jpg 5.0M: http://gallery.bax.on.ca/OpenBSD45.jpg Frank
Re: 4.5 arrived in Canada
cool, i'll look forward for getting a boxed copy... :) any ideas where to find one of those in montreal ? Regards and congrats for the release! - erob On April 17, 2009 12:37:22 pm Jean-Francois wrote: Absolutely *Splendid* As of today for order to France what is the channel ? Regards, Jean-Frangois Le vendredi 17 avril 2009 18:29:43, vous avez icrit : This year I was watching more closely for pre-order page to be updated and paid a few extra bucks for express shipping. Same picture - two sizes: 0.5M: http://gallery.bax.on.ca/OpenBSD45s.jpg 5.0M: http://gallery.bax.on.ca/OpenBSD45.jpg Frank
Question about pfkey_reply (from bgpd/pfkey.c)
In the first few error cases where pfkey_reply returns early, shouldn't the pending message still at least be read off the socket? E.g., right now (as far as I can tell), if a pfkey response packet ever has sadb_msg_errno set, that response will stay on the socket forever and be used for every future pfkey_reply call. Patch below is completely untested, and just meant to help explain the potential problem. I'm assuming that pfkey sockets behave like udp sockets, and that reads without enough space still consume an entire datagram. Index: pfkey.c === RCS file: /cvs/src/usr.sbin/bgpd/pfkey.c,v retrieving revision 1.34 diff -p -u -r1.34 pfkey.c --- pfkey.c 26 Oct 2006 14:26:49 - 1.34 +++ pfkey.c 17 Apr 2009 20:11:38 - @@ -417,9 +417,11 @@ pfkey_reply(int sd, u_int32_t *spip) if (recv(sd, hdr, sizeof(hdr), MSG_PEEK) != sizeof(hdr)) { log_warn(pfkey peek); + read(sd, hdr, sizeof(hdr)); /* discard packet */ return (-1); } if (hdr.sadb_msg_errno != 0) { + read(sd, hdr, sizeof(hdr)); /* discard packet */ errno = hdr.sadb_msg_errno; if (errno == ESRCH) return (0); @@ -431,6 +433,7 @@ pfkey_reply(int sd, u_int32_t *spip) len = hdr.sadb_msg_len * PFKEY2_CHUNK; if ((data = malloc(len)) == NULL) { log_warn(pfkey malloc); + read(sd, hdr, sizeof(hdr)); /* discard packet */ return (-1); } if (read(sd, data, len) != len) {
Re: 4.5 arrived in Canada
I'm in Montreal as well and just order them from the Computer Shop: http://www.openbsd.org/orders.html#ca/cshop -Martin
Re: Low power OpenBSD machine
2009/4/16 Bob Beck b...@obtuse.com: I have a t5xxx also and want to do the same, but if I use usb flash (tried and worked fine), how to limit at max disk writes ? so the flash can live longer ... Please let me know if you find an answer to this question. I have all these openbsd machines booking off hard drives, and I'm trying to find a way to limit the writes, so my hard drives can live longer. Mounting things like /tmp on large ramdisks and using generous write-behind caching? It may not make your machine any quicker, or save you any money, or make things easier to administer, or decrease the risk of data loss; in fact it may do the opposite; but then, you didn't ask about any of these points... :-P It's probably always possible to somewhat improve a single metric if you ignore the potentially catastrophic impact on everything else. ;-)
Re: Low power OpenBSD machine
I'm currently trying to get my hands on a Nexcom Nise 2000. Should come in under your power specs. Our goals are slightly different - I want a smaller, quieter home server, don't care to do anything desktop related with it. I'm sure it would work fine for either. Timothy Hume wrote: Hi, My current PC is not very healthy. I am considering building a new low power consumption machine. I want something a bit more powerful than a Soekris, but it doesn't have to be the fastest machine around. I will be using the machine for web browsing, Email, managing my digital photos and so on. The main requirement is that the machine is quiet and has a low power consumption so I can leave it on all the time. I obviously want to build something which works perfectly with OpenBSD. Is it possible to build something like I describe which uses under 30 Watts, and if so, what hardware would people recommend? Cheers, Tim.
HP 735/125 for donation in Adelaide, Australia
This unit has been gathering dust for too long now and I figure someone else may as well have a play with it. Its pretty heavy, maybe 25kg, so I'd prefer local pickup. I'd rather give it to a developer, but if there is no interest I may change my mind. No monitor or keyboard etc. It has two 50 pin SCSI drives (2gb, 1gb), one of which is not well secured. The most recent dmesg I have from it is below. -Graham [ using 325628 bytes of bsd ELF symbol table ] Copyright (c) 1982, 1986, 1989, 1991, 1993 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. Copyright (c) 1995-2007 OpenBSD. All rights reserved. http://www.OpenBSD.org OpenBSD 4.2 (GENERIC) #42: Thu Aug 9 22:28:09 CEST 2007 kette...@faure.sibelius.xs4all.nl:/usr/src/sys/arch/hppa/compile/GENERIC HP 9000/735/130 (Snake Cheetah) PA-RISC 1.1a real mem = 184549376 (524288 reserved for PROM, 5885952 used by OpenBSD) avail mem = 174346240 mainbus0 at root [flex fff8] pdc0 at mainbus0 power0 at mainbus0: not available mem0 at mainbus0 offset ffbf000: size 176MB cpu0 at mainbus0 offset ffbe000 irq 31: PCXL L1-A 125MHz, FPU PCXT (Rolex - CMOS-26B) rev 1 cpu0: 256K(32b/l) Icache, 256K(32b/l) wr-back Dcache, 120 coherent TLB, 16 BTLB mongoose0 at mainbus0 offset c00 irq 17: HWPC000 rev 34, 33 MHz eisa0 at mongoose0 isa at mongoose0 not configured asp0 at mainbus0 offset 82f000 irq 28: Hardball rev 20, lan 1 scsi 7 gsc0 at asp0: wordleds harmony0 at gsc0 offset 100 irq 13: rev 0 audio0 at harmony0 siop0 at gsc0 offset 83 irq 3 hpa=f083: NCR53C720 rev 2 scsibus0 at siop0: 16 targets lpt0 at gsc0 offset 824000 irq 7 com1 at gsc0 offset 822000 irq 6: ns16550a, 16 byte fifo com0 at gsc0 offset 823000 irq 5: ns16550a, 16 byte fifo com0: console hil0 at gsc0 offset 821000 irq 1 ie0 at gsc0 offset 826000 irq 8: i82596DX v0.0, address 08:00:09:1b:e8:fd oosiop0 at gsc0 offset 825000 irq 9: NCR53C700 rev 0, 31MHz, SCSI ID 7 scsibus1 at oosiop0: 8 targets sd0 at scsibus1 targ 0 lun 0: SEAGATE, ST32272N, 0876 SCSI2 0/direct fixed sd0: 2157MB, 6300 cyl, 4 head, 175 sec, 512 bytes/sec, 4419464 sec total sd1 at scsibus1 targ 1 lun 0: SEAGATE, ST31200N, 8648 SCSI2 0/direct fixed sd1: 1006MB, 2700 cyl, 9 head, 84 sec, 512 bytes/sec, 2061108 sec total sti0 at mainbus0 offset 800 irq 11: HPA1659A rev 8.02;10, ID 0x26D1482A40A00499 sti0: 2048x1024 frame buffer, 1280x1024x8 display, offset 768x0 sti0: 10x20 font type 1, 40 bpc, charset 0-255 biomask 0x7 netmask 0xf ttymask 0x3f bootpath: 2/0/1.0 class=1 flags=c0autoboot,autosearch hpa=0xf0825000 spa=0x0 io=0x6abc hil0: no devices wsdisplay0 at sti0 mux 1 wsdisplay0: screen 0 added (std, vt100 emulation) root on sd0a swap on sd0b dump on sd0b