Re: multicore processors gain
Well, Thank you for on topic answers. I've seen the -pthread parameters on some ports' compile, but I thought is an alias for process. I will read about them. Damn, am I the only one who gets mad when receiving a link to wikipedia ? It looks like a sindrome on internet. I'm confused about multicore gain, but what the hell, let the who has the bigger dick [computer, server, %, etc. ] game continue
Re: multicore processors gain
Hi folks, I will reformulate the question. Sorry for this, but it sleeps off topic. So, I'm interested about Intel Core 2 Duo family and i3, i5, i7 families. I don't know what SMP is about. I remember UNIX has no threads, just processes spawn by fork(). Having this in mind, will a processor from upper categories help me and how - by using all its cores or just some extra L2 or L3 cache. Are there some differences in the way OpenBSD runs on a processor from upper categories and some blade server with many stand alone processors. Many thanks.
multicore processors gain
Hello, I got the idea from FAQ that OpenBSD is not using more than one core from multicore processors. Pretending I got it right, what's the benefit to buy an Intel Core 2 Duo ? Just the bigger cache and some extra instructions? Is there a difference in how OpenBSD handles let's say a multicore processor or an arhitecture with blade processors ? Thanks.
symbol ( - - - - ) size mismatch, relink your program
Hello, I did a snapshot install and I got many warnings like this one. What could be this warning, is it about mismatch on .so files ? Thanks.
Re: symbol ( - - - - ) size mismatch, relink your program
Sorry folks, I was to quick in posting. Here are the details: I've installed from what is (was) today on snapshots on ftp server. Then I used the same ftp snapshot mirror for packages. That's all, no CVS, no compile, just plain install from what is (was) on snapshots - base packages. This was after a long pause of using OpenBSD as a desktop, I was using it only as a router. I had to do this to give a try to Ubuntu, but I was disappointed with it and came back to old and stable stuff. I did the same install like in the old times, get the snapshot and go. First, my ATI HD4350 refused to startx, effectively putting my display in some unusable state: I had to remove power from display to get it back online. I searched the archive and found out that Xorg became a joke since Intel put some code in it. Too sad. Then I got the messages about symbol size mismatch. I've installed empathy but got some strange messages like Cannot execute the script ... (not a manual?) and empathy refused to start being unable to load some lib.so files. Now I replaced the ATI HD4350 with ATI X1650 and managed to get X working. Are there new things in snapshot which I don't know ? Should I wait for another compile of packages, to have a date close to the base compile time ? If X is so crappy, is there another thing to use ? Many thanks.
OpenBSD release
Off topic, was he looking for 4.8 release: http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=532_1285949897
Re: undeadly article
Hello, Here is my last post to this thread. No time to argue out of the subject. My point is it is safer not to hurt yourself, in this case is safer to avoid unnecessary conflicts and treatments on the airport. Why ? The worst thing it can happen in this situation is well, you are held there and you can't reach anymore the hackathon meeting. So nice. I was drive to open this thread by the memory of another case with someone from open source. My intention was not to judge people ( J.C. vs. R) but behaviours. So J.C. of course you are others are free to do and write whatever you like, but I think your scenario was set up from home. I know what sarcasm is, please avoid using wikipedia as a reference, it looks not so nice. Here are a few translations of my own for local humour, here in Eastern Europe ( no hints included : ) You do not put a flea on a white paper. You do not wear a towel on your head if you don't have a headache. No hate involved from my side.
Re: undeadly article
Hello, My post was not intended as a direct hit for the article. I told my opinion to misc@ because undeadly ask for subscription, no more anonymous coward post. Am I wrong ? I target airport behaviour with my comment. I use the airport for 6 flight until now, no problem at all with security teams. I was quick and polite in answers and the time with them was short. Most of them have the nose to see what they are dealing with. If you start playing, they will answer accordingly, not because you look like a suspect, it is more like an answer. Do you really think they like what they are doing, Robert ? How whould you feel inspecting people's luggage like a thief ? Or suspecting them ? Those are the rules ... I like the humour on undeadly, but this article was not for me. I saw a guy who was tried to get as more attention as he can. You don't need the fifth wheel on a running car, Robert. Four are enough. If you insist to use it, you will get people attention for sure. The gipsy part is not funny also, but this is clear not for m...@. Have fun ! (but not in sensible areas).
undeadly article
Hello, I have read the undeadly.org article about how to play with airport security. I don't know who is the guy acting like this on an airport, but my brain triggered something I read in the past, about a well known guy from open source who was throw out from an airplane by the security team. Just my thought, maybe not related to misc ... but I think this story is not in the line of good old undeadly.
panic: pool_do_get(mcl2k) on -current
Hello, It's the first time on getting panic: on openbsd. I have an old computer without display in a not so accessible place. Many times I got not ping response after some usage, and no keyboard feedback so I suspected a panic. This was with -current before 4.7 version modification ( the files have the 4.6 index), now I hooked up a display and here is the panic, on -current with 4.7 version name in files: panic: pool_do_get(mcl2k): free list modified : page 0xd1d42000; item addr 0xd1d42000; offset 0x0=0xefffded2 Stopped at: [some empty space displayed here] Debugger+0x4 [other empty space] leave I run ps and trace, got the output on a digicamera, so eventually I have to transcript and send an email to bugs. I wonder if there is a way to send images as attachments. Perhaps not. Leaving this, looking at the message could it be a hardware failure ? Maybe memory failure ? Any suggestion greatly appreciated, never had a kernel panic before. Thanks. Dmesg: OpenBSD 4.7-current (GENERIC) #642: Wed Apr 28 11:46:47 MDT 2010 dera...@i386.openbsd.org:/usr/src/sys/arch/i386/compile/GENERIC cpu0: Intel Pentium II (GenuineIntel 686-class, 512KB L2 cache) 268 MHz cpu0: FPU,V86,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,MMX,FXSR real mem = 66670592 (63MB) avail mem = 54583296 (52MB) mainbus0 at root bios0 at mainbus0: AT/286+ BIOS, date 08/25/98, BIOS32 rev. 0 @ 0xfd7a0 apm0 at bios0: Power Management spec V1.2 apm0: AC on, battery charge unknown pcibios0 at bios0: rev 2.1 @ 0xfd7a0/0x860 pcibios0: PCI IRQ Routing Table rev 1.0 @ 0xfdf40/160 (8 entries) pcibios0: PCI Interrupt Router at 000:07:0 (Intel 82371FB ISA rev 0x00) pcibios0: PCI bus #1 is the last bus WARNING: can't reserve area for I/O APIC. bios0: ROM list: 0xc/0x8000 cpu0 at mainbus0: (uniprocessor) memory map conflict 0x3fffc00/0x400 pci0 at mainbus0 bus 0: configuration mode 1 (bios) pchb0 at pci0 dev 0 function 0 Intel 82443LX AGP rev 0x03 intelagp0 at pchb0 agp0 at intelagp0: aperture at 0xfe80, size 0x40 ppb0 at pci0 dev 1 function 0 Intel 82443LX AGP rev 0x03 pci1 at ppb0 bus 1 vga1 at pci1 dev 0 function 0 ATI Mach64 rev 0x3a wsdisplay0 at vga1 mux 1: console (80x25, vt100 emulation) wsdisplay0: screen 1-5 added (80x25, vt100 emulation) piixpcib0 at pci0 dev 7 function 0 Intel 82371AB PIIX4 ISA rev 0x02 pciide0 at pci0 dev 7 function 1 Intel 82371AB IDE rev 0x01: DMA, channel 0 wired to compatibility, channel 1 wired to compatibility wd0 at pciide0 channel 0 drive 0: ST320011A wd0: 16-sector PIO, LBA, 19092MB, 39102336 sectors wd0(pciide0:0:0): using PIO mode 4, Ultra-DMA mode 2 pciide0: channel 1 disabled (no drives) uhci0 at pci0 dev 7 function 2 Intel 82371AB USB rev 0x01: irq 9 piixpm0 at pci0 dev 7 function 3 Intel 82371AB Power rev 0x02: SMI iic0 at piixpm0 spdmem0 at iic0 addr 0x54: 32MB SDRAM non-parity PC66CL2 spdmem1 at iic0 addr 0x55: 32MB SDRAM non-parity PC66CL2 xl0 at pci0 dev 12 function 0 3Com 3c905B 100Base-TX rev 0x30: irq 11, address 00:10:5a:9a:2c:1b exphy0 at xl0 phy 24: 3Com internal media interface xl1 at pci0 dev 13 function 0 3Com 3c905B 100Base-TX rev 0x30: irq 10, address 00:10:5a:9a:2b:6a exphy1 at xl1 phy 24: 3Com internal media interface xl2 at pci0 dev 14 function 0 3Com 3c905B 100Base-TX rev 0x30: irq 7, address 00:10:5a:9a:2b:55 exphy2 at xl2 phy 24: 3Com internal media interface xl3 at pci0 dev 15 function 0 3Com 3c905B 100Base-TX rev 0x30: irq 9, address 00:10:5a:9a:42:5b exphy3 at xl3 phy 24: 3Com internal media interface isa0 at piixpcib0 isadma0 at isa0 pckbc0 at isa0 port 0x60/5 pckbd0 at pckbc0 (kbd slot) pckbc0: using irq 1 for kbd slot wskbd0 at pckbd0: console keyboard, using wsdisplay0 pcppi0 at isa0 port 0x61 midi0 at pcppi0: PC speaker spkr0 at pcppi0 npx0 at isa0 port 0xf0/16: reported by CPUID; using exception 16 usb0 at uhci0: USB revision 1.0 uhub0 at usb0 Intel UHCI root hub rev 1.00/1.00 addr 1 biomask f37d netmask fffd ttymask mtrr: Pentium Pro MTRR support vscsi0 at root scsibus0 at vscsi0: 256 targets softraid0 at root root on wd0a swap on wd0b dump on wd0b WARNING: / was not properly unmounted
openbsd web hosting
Hello, I need some infos about web hosting companies that offer openbsd based web hosting, please. The other requests are apache, php, postgresql and maybe mysql, decent monthly fee ( 5 - 10 euro /month). I got some google hits, but I trust some suggestions made here. Thanks
router not responding state investigation
Hello, I'm running an early snapshot on a router. Things are fine until I start transmission torrent clinet on a host behind the router. After some time of download, the transmission client stops all the traffic. When I try to check the router with ping, I got no response. Ctrl+Alt+Del is setup to do a clean shutdown, but in this case it is not responding anymore, only a power up/down cycle can restore the system. Let's say I can't hook up a display at this for the moment. Is there another way to see what's happening? I get no strange messages in logs. A hardware failure is excluded, this behaviour is not present when transmission is not started on the host. The torrent is used without port mapping, just a keep state on out packets. Basically, I want to see what's happening, maybe a sysctl adjustment is necesary, but for the moment I can't see it without a display. Thanks.
Re: diff on running an application from xterm or graphical menu ?
On 12/12/09, Remco re...@d-compu.dyndns.org wrote: Mihai Popescu B.S. wrote: Hello all, I've run in some problem with gnome-mplayer. Basicaly, there is a difference in functioning if I run this application from xterm or graphical menu ( i use fbpanel menu). From xterm it works fine, it plays the movie. From graphical menu, it doesn't. It reports a Bad file descriptor. More details are here (gnome-mplayer list): http://groups.google.com/group/gecko-mediaplayer/browse_thread/thread/9b940dfb583c0651 So, can anyone spot a difference of the two ways of running an application ? Thanks This is a bit of a long shot. I noticed when running a desktop system like Gnome or KDE the process limits of users in the default class may get in the way. (Don't know how resource hungry your desktop system is) You could look at ksh(1) for the ulimit option to increase the number of processes / file descriptors. You may also want to use / set up a class different from the default. (see login.conf(5)) e.g. to raise some limits I've put myself in the staff class and I have this in my ~/.profile: ulimit -Sd 2048000 -Sn 1024 -Sp256 I did it, but no luck either. It must be something else, I mean there is a clear functionality difference if I run this from terminal compared to graphicam wm menu. But what can be ? Any other ideas ? Thanks
diff on running an application from xterm or graphical menu ?
Hello all, I've run in some problem with gnome-mplayer. Basicaly, there is a difference in functioning if I run this application from xterm or graphical menu ( i use fbpanel menu). From xterm it works fine, it plays the movie. From graphical menu, it doesn't. It reports a Bad file descriptor. More details are here (gnome-mplayer list): http://groups.google.com/group/gecko-mediaplayer/browse_thread/thread/9b940dfb583c0651 So, can anyone spot a difference of the two ways of running an application ? Thanks
SHA256 still used or not ?
Hello, I'm installing -current from snapshots, from time to time. I use to download the .iso file then burn it and check the files on cdrom against SHA256 file downloaded together with .iso. Since some time, the x*.tgz are reported as FAILED in this check. I send another email to the list, I got one answer but I'm not able yet to get the idea. So, I ask again, is still this SHA256 used for _all_ files or it is just for non x* files in snapshots? Should I use it to check the files snaphots or not ? Because if I don;t have this check, how could I be sure about files integrity after download and even after burning ? thanks
Re: SHA256 still used or not ?
On 11/21/09, Theo de Raadt dera...@cvs.openbsd.org wrote: I'm installing -current from snapshots, from time to time. I use to download the .iso file then burn it and check the files on cdrom against SHA256 file downloaded together with .iso. Since some time, the x*.tgz are reported as FAILED in this check. I send another email to the list, I got one answer but I'm not able yet to get the idea. So, I ask again, is still this SHA256 used for _all_ files or it is just for non x* files in snapshots? Should I use it to check the files snaphots or not ? Because if I don;t have this check, how could I be sure about files integrity after download and even after burning ? The SHA256's of the sets build just before bsd.rd are encoded directly into the bsd.rd. This is no PKI. It means the bsd.rd can only validate the sets that were built at the same time. If time passes, the bsd.rd will not recognize the next set of files. We cannot even promise that the SHA256 file in the directory matches what the bsd.rd file knows. The ftp servers are not atomic. Pardon me, but I think I was omitted some details I wrote them in the past post. I just go to ftp.openbsd.org and download .iso file and SHA256 file. Having them both in the same directory I just run a 'cksum -a sha256 -c SHA256'. I'm interested only in .iso file integrity, so this must report OK , the other checks are FAILED ( file not found). Using cdio I burn a cdrom , mount it and then run inside i386 directory the same command 'cksum -a sha256 -c SHA256', SHA256 being the file I mentioned first - the one downloaded with the .iso file, from the same ftp directory. That's how I get FAILED for x*.tgz files. Now, you said something about bsd.rd, I think this is only if I install using the ftp method. Actually, I'm using the previous burned cdrom. Im familiar just with simple CRC chceck theory, but if SHA256 stuff has something to do with the kernel version I run, it may be out of my understanding then. If this is so, can someone suggest a method to check the correct download of .iso file and the files burned on the cdrom, in that order, please. many thanks.
Re: SHA256 still used or not ?
On 11/21/09, Philip Guenther guent...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Nov 21, 2009 at 1:07 AM, Mihai Popescu B.S. mihai...@gmail.com wrote: ... Since some time, the x*.tgz are reported as FAILED in this check. I send another email to the list, I got one answer but I'm not able yet to get the idea. So, I ask again, is still this SHA256 used for _all_ files or it is just for non x* files in snapshots? Should I use it to check the files snaphots or not? Did you examine the timestamps on the SHA256 and x* files? What were they? What mirror was this from? Looking at ftp.openbsd.org just now, the SHA256 file for the i386 snapshots has the correct value for all the x*.tgz files. Philip Guenther I did and I got an idea about what may happen: I had in my mind that .iso file is just an image of the files present in the directory, which is not true all the time. Now I think the developers are not building an .iso file for wach change they do in the directory. This way, inside .iso file can be older .tgz files than what I see in the fto directory. This explains why checks are FAILED. Am I right ? Thanks
SHA256 check for snapshots fails
Hello, I have downloaded the 4-Nov-2009 snapshot from ftp.openbsd.org. Running the `cksum -a sha256 -c SHA256` against .iso file I got the OK result. After CD burning I run again the command agains files on the CD - all the x*.tgz checksums are reported as FAILED. I thought it's the damn burner fault ( quite strange because is a new one ) and I used vnconfig with svnd0 to mount the .iso file and check - the result is the same, again the x*.tgz checksums are reported as FAILED. To get the big picture, things are like the .iso file is OK, but some files inside it are FAILED. How that can be ? Is is ok to check the SHA256 for snapshots anymore? Thanks
Re: SHA256 check for snapshots fails
base and x may be built at different times. if that happens you might get the failure on the x* checksums. just the way it is atm. - Robert Hmm, I got the feeling that SHA256 will hold the checksums for the existent files in that directory, plus the fact that files are used to generate the .iso file. Am I wrong ? I fail to see the link between build times and checksums ...
SATA hardisk appearing offline
Hello, I have a DELL Precision 370 workstation and BIOS allows me to select the SATA behaviour mode: it can be AHCI mode or emulate the good old known ATA mode. The hardisk I'm using is a SATA 300 model ( aka SATA II ). I was using it in ATA mode for some time, but I tried the AHCI at each release. Starting with 4.5 the AHCI was setup correctly and I started using it as default since then. Thus, from time to time I still have some problems. The boot process is ok, the kernel is loaded but the hardisk is not detected anymore and the computer freezes at this point. The successful line about hardisk detect is replaced with this one: sd0 at scsibus1 targ 0 lun 0: ATA, , SCSI3 0/direct fixed sd0: driver offline unknown vendor 0x0004 product 0x (class prehistoric, subclass miscellaneous, rev 0x04) at pci0 dev31 function 3 not configured. Unfortunately the fail dmesg is not recorded in /var/log/messages. The only way to reproduce it for sure is on first reboot after fresh OpenBSD install. After a few reboots I will get a success. My question is this: is it a problem about hardware failure or the ahci driver is not mature enough ? I'm worried because this appears randomly and I can't relate it to something. The only sure way to reproduce it is to install a fresh Openbsd, when I do the first reboot after install it will appear for sure. success dmesg === OpenBSD 4.5-current (GENERIC) #57: Fri Jun 12 14:46:47 MDT 2009 dera...@i386.openbsd.org:/usr/src/sys/arch/i386/compile/GENERIC cpu0: Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.20GHz (GenuineIntel 686-class) 3.20 GHz cpu0: FPU,V86,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,CFLUSH,DS,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SS,HTT,TM,SBF,SSE3,MWAIT,DS-CPL,CNXT-ID,xTPR real mem = 1071783936 (1022MB) avail mem = 1027928064 (980MB) mainbus0 at root bios0 at mainbus0: AT/286+ BIOS, date 07/07/06, BIOS32 rev. 0 @ 0xffe90, SMBIOS rev. 2.3 @ 0xf0450 (72 entries) bios0: vendor Dell Inc. version A08 date 07/07/2006 bios0: Dell Inc. Precision WorkStation 370 acpi0 at bios0: rev 0 acpi0: tables DSDT FACP SSDT APIC BOOT ASF! MCFG HPET acpi0: wakeup devices VBTN(S4) PCI0(S5) PCI1(S5) PCI2(S5) PCI3(S5) PCI4(S5) KBD_(S3) USB0(S3) USB1(S3) USB2(S3) USB3(S3) acpitimer0 at acpi0: 3579545 Hz, 24 bits acpimadt0 at acpi0 addr 0xfee0: PC-AT compat cpu0 at mainbus0: apid 0 (boot processor) cpu0: apic clock running at 199MHz ioapic0 at mainbus0: apid 8 pa 0xfec0, version 20, 24 pins ioapic0: misconfigured as apic 0, remapped to apid 8 acpihpet0 at acpi0: 14318179 Hz acpiprt0 at acpi0: bus 4 (PCI1) acpiprt1 at acpi0: bus 2 (PCI2) acpiprt2 at acpi0: bus 3 (PCI3) acpiprt3 at acpi0: bus 1 (PCI4) acpiprt4 at acpi0: bus 0 (PCI0) acpicpu0 at acpi0 acpibtn0 at acpi0: VBTN bios0: ROM list: 0xc/0xf800 0xcf800/0x800 pci0 at mainbus0 bus 0: configuration mode 1 (bios) pchb0 at pci0 dev 0 function 0 Intel 82925X Host rev 0x04 ppb0 at pci0 dev 1 function 0 Intel 82925X PCIE rev 0x04: apic 8 int 16 (irq 11) pci1 at ppb0 bus 1 vga1 at pci1 dev 0 function 0 ATI Radeon X1650 Pro rev 0x9e wsdisplay0 at vga1 mux 1: console (80x25, vt100 emulation) wsdisplay0: screen 1-5 added (80x25, vt100 emulation) radeondrm0 at vga1: apic 8 int 16 (irq 11) drm0 at radeondrm0 ATI Radeon X1650 Pro Sec rev 0x9e at pci1 dev 0 function 1 not configured ppb1 at pci0 dev 28 function 0 Intel 82801FB PCIE rev 0x03: apic 8 int 16 (irq 11) pci2 at ppb1 bus 2 bge0 at pci2 dev 0 function 0 Broadcom BCM5751 rev 0x01, BCM5750 A1 (0x4001): apic 8 int 16 (irq 11), address 00:13:20:18:a2:cf brgphy0 at bge0 phy 1: BCM5750 10/100/1000baseT PHY, rev. 0 ppb2 at pci0 dev 28 function 1 Intel 82801FB PCIE rev 0x03: apic 8 int 17 (irq 10) pci3 at ppb2 bus 3 uhci0 at pci0 dev 29 function 0 Intel 82801FB USB rev 0x03: apic 8 int 21 (irq 9) uhci1 at pci0 dev 29 function 1 Intel 82801FB USB rev 0x03: apic 8 int 22 (irq 5) uhci2 at pci0 dev 29 function 2 Intel 82801FB USB rev 0x03: apic 8 int 18 (irq 3) uhci3 at pci0 dev 29 function 3 Intel 82801FB USB rev 0x03: apic 8 int 23 (irq 10) ehci0 at pci0 dev 29 function 7 Intel 82801FB USB rev 0x03: apic 8 int 21 (irq 9) usb0 at ehci0: USB revision 2.0 uhub0 at usb0 Intel EHCI root hub rev 2.00/1.00 addr 1 ppb3 at pci0 dev 30 function 0 Intel 82801BA Hub-to-PCI rev 0xd3 pci4 at ppb3 bus 4 emu0 at pci4 dev 2 function 0 Creative Labs SoundBlaster Live rev 0x07: apic 8 int 18 (irq 3) ac97: codec id 0x83847609 (SigmaTel STAC9721/23) ac97: codec features 18 bit DAC, 18 bit ADC, SigmaTel 3D audio0 at emu0 Creative Labs PCI Gameport Joystick rev 0x07 at pci4 dev 2 function 1 not configured ichpcib0 at pci0 dev 31 function 0 Intel 82801FB LPC rev 0x03: PM disabled pciide0 at pci0 dev 31 function 1 Intel 82801FB IDE rev 0x03: DMA, channel 0 configured to compatibility, channel 1 configured to compatibility atapiscsi0 at pciide0 channel 0 drive 0 scsibus0 at atapiscsi0: 2 targets cd0 at scsibus0 targ 0 lun 0: PIONEER, DVD-RW DVR-116D, 1.06 ATAPI 5/cdrom removable cd0(pciide0:0:0): using PIO
firefox+greasemonkey+hqtube error
Hello, I installed on a snapshot the hqtube and greasemonkey like it was explained on an undeadly article. For a few minutes everything worked fine, then i got this error after a while and the sound is dead: 'greasemonkey chromewin.firebug is undefined.' Did anyone succed to install this combination withour error on OpenBSD ? Thanks.
snapshot package error: pixman-1.12.0 dependency not found
Hello, I'm trying to install OpenBSD 4.5 i386 from snapshots and this is the third snapshot which gives me this error when trying to install mozilla-firefox package. [...] Can't install cairo-1.8.6p1: lib not found pixman-1.12.0 [...] pixman-1.12.0: partial match in /usr/X11R6/lib: major=15, minor=8 (bad major) [...] Of course the mozilla-package is not installed. I tried the install45.iso from 6, 7, 8-June. The package collection is from 6-June. From what I read on dependency stuff is looks like the cairo was linked against a future pixman version which is not shipped in the base packages. But maybe I am wrong. Can someone tell me please what's the issue here and how should I approach the install method from snapshots? Am I dong something wrong ? Thanks
Re: snapshot package error: pixman-1.12.0 dependency not found
. Drop this issue, I got the idea. The base was providing a newer version of pixman than the package was linked against, it's the other way around what I thought. So I should wait for another _package_ set snapshot, not base. Thanks and excuse me for the noise.
failed packaged install from snapshots
Hello, I got the install45.iso from snapshots/i386/, the files data is 6-June, except for X* based packages wich are listed from 5-June. The packages are listed from 6-June, all of them. I tried to install mozilla-firefox, but at some point I got this error and installation stopped: [...] Can't install cairo-1.8.6p1: lib not found pixman-1.12.0 [...] pixman-1.12.0: partial match in /usr/X11R6/lib: major=15, minor=8 (bad major) [...] I think this is a bad package compile since it used an older lib. What can I do, should I wait for another snapshot release ? Thanks
Re: European orders
OK then, can someone explain from the start to the end how this was set up ? Please include prices and discounts. I'm still confused about the method and reading again the thread is not helpful. Thanks On 4/18/09, Theo de Raadt dera...@cvs.openbsd.org wrote: I was comming late to the show since I was enjoying my holliday. Please confirm or deny the theory I got from the long thread. I got the ideea that Wim received the CDs from source with 40% from the real price. Then, Wim must return the 60% profit back to the store. no, no no no no. He was supposed to keep 40% for each CD. Instead, he kept 40% + 45%. How I see it is Wim has no profit from strictly CD selling only. To compensate this, Theo allowed Wim to use designs and art from OpenBSD in order to sell the tshirts and puppets. Wim could keep the entire profits from those, and can add soekris stuff. No. I gave him that on top of the 40% he was supposed to get as profit. We expected him to pay the rest back. The facts are simple, if I get it right: if the CD set is $100, Wim will pay $40 to it, sell it on $100 pay $40 to the store and return back $60 to the projects. One can verify quick and easy if Wim did what he agreed with Theo: multiply the number of shipped CDs with price and see if Wim returned the money. Is all this correct ? No. You have it wrong. Go back to reading school. As Theo said many times, do not mix here donations and other stuff. When I saw the picture of Wim for the first time ( http://www.kd85.com/images/Wim.jpg ) I said Oh, what a sale agent picture. This is more like a business than an open source stuff ! But I am not entitled to judge by picture. I'm very sad for this news. Can someone post a picture with Wim's news house. Just to see if it's a good match for the watch. Thanks
the power of one
Hi, I don't want to be a smart ass, but I was a little bit confused about some answers on undeadly.org message post by me. Basicaly, I was saying that even 1 euro matters for the donations. I was thinking that thousands of OpenBSD users donating at least 1 euro will bring thousands of euro for the project urgent needs. Some people like me likes to think that it doesn't worth the effort to send a small amount of money. But it does ! Step by step the project can be funded. I took my time and donated more than 1 euro. Keep it on with donations.
(bit)torrent openbsd client
Hello, Could you make some suggestion for a good openbsd (bit)torrent client with or without GUI ? I know some names, but I want to have some user experience presented. Thanks.
laptop choice
Hello, I will open another well known topic for misc list: laptop acquisition. I did some research on the list's emails but I'm not fully satisfied. I want to buy a laptop (second hand is my first choice). I want some strong point on it, reliability - I want to use it for a long time (excluding battery) so I don't need broken hdd, excessive heat, noise, etc. I don't need performance, I will use it only for some pdf read and browsing. Maybe some programming, but not much and not heavy compile actions for sure. So a P4 1.6 - 2GHz cpu is fine, 512MB of ram and maybe 40GB hdd. No fancy video card is necessary. Ethernet cooper interface is mandatory. Good OpenBSD compatibility will be nice. The screen should be around 15, 17 as a suggestion only. From what I saw, Lenovo/IBM X and T models are the first choice. I am also moved to DELL suite, but I don't have some experience with them. Please send some suggestion here, in order of preferences. Remember, I need mostly reliability, I don't see myself bidding on ebay for parts to repair. Thank you for your time.
Re: laptop choice
Thank you for your answers. I was amazed that IBM is having the top place - my only experience with IBM was using an expensive server which decided to blow up the electrolytic capacitors from the motherboard after one year. Since my concern is reliability I will stay with IBM T series then which people say are for performance rather than X series that are for mobility. I don't need dual core since the support for this is scarce in many operating systems. Thank you for your answers, I will read the thread for the new answers.
Re: incorrect MD5 file on mirror
I used md5 -c MD5 to check. Could someone give me a hint with this checksum file, should I rely on it or not anymore ? Thanks
Re: incorrect MD5 file on mirror
My mistake was not to include the files. The confusing thing was that _BOTH_ md5 files had the same size and the one from uni-erlangen.de was one day delay like it should be (aprox) . I include here the file content and maybe someone can pinpoint more accurately: MD5 - ftp.openbsd.org -- MD5 (INSTALL.i386) = d63689d0e6c63150c9f3173eff5237fb MD5 (INSTALL.linux) = 9dc22b93082baed2745f75b97510cda7 MD5 (base44.tgz) = bb8db9c8ca3c66dbd9d2a1174899236a MD5 (bsd) = 6e42fe01151f8eacbfabb7f6043541d1 MD5 (bsd.mp) = fe533d2aec39f88b85696e16dd2fbe3c MD5 (bsd.rd) = f171e6429cc1600b04ae35cf6149514f MD5 (cd44.iso) = 903642d08fb324b500eadeb7eada7ded MD5 (cdboot) = 7afc36a12cdf562bf24b60029001572a MD5 (cdbr) = f609db1eeaf4dc7dc6a280a6c99eea0f MD5 (cdemu44.iso) = 729351932f3e4f8f967a4ee3366ba513 MD5 (comp44.tgz) = 84f640db395a2b76d733e44d8c9f4900 MD5 (etc44.tgz) = 2b8c769b254b4e8305c1b293e592a21e MD5 (floppy44.fs) = f2a8cb4e05d6593c4fcd9271a7052c87 MD5 (floppyB44.fs) = 89887f2fb23930654a9a6c151804122a MD5 (floppyC44.fs) = 2576628b4ab9c9e28d342d0234fbc8a0 MD5 (game44.tgz) = 81021ef9c53838b0e8e6560bde3ac991 MD5 (install44.iso) = 61e25017f70ca4e2671070dc44ef2a58 MD5 (man44.tgz) = 435d5b8e5b59207c5795a66bce43ffa8 MD5 (misc44.tgz) = 724c23bef1ddf89a9bafc28d9e616e9a MD5 (pxeboot) = 6d24b0694bc23b642db9230fc02726b6 MD5 - openbsd.informatik.uni-erlangen.de --- MD5 (INSTALL.i386) = d63689d0e6c63150c9f3173eff5237fb MD5 (INSTALL.linux) = 9dc22b93082baed2745f75b97510cda7 MD5 (base44.tgz) = 773abe1dafee4b277a9a943688339d0e MD5 (bsd) = 5a1d4258494abd7f23ca0e86deb54e03 MD5 (bsd.mp) = 48d669bf3dbac3908c9e892f956d4040 MD5 (bsd.rd) = af51c311685805fd59002cbad4e80b63 MD5 (cd44.iso) = 3a2949fbe1eeaf77d882e5b40a595133 MD5 (cdboot) = 7afc36a12cdf562bf24b60029001572a MD5 (cdbr) = f609db1eeaf4dc7dc6a280a6c99eea0f MD5 (cdemu44.iso) = d9244f2ab37ea38423836c0304c3bb0f MD5 (comp44.tgz) = e482262f9492f88554a8f81aeb077ed8 MD5 (etc44.tgz) = 58e72b230ba7f8816e6ca08180c8 MD5 (floppy44.fs) = 00575aa07c49afd2bdfb154efcdaea89 MD5 (floppyB44.fs) = abe3344304f848b05d2b754f8f4fb08a MD5 (floppyC44.fs) = 648b2d17e8a69e057c9ed312de780d9f MD5 (game44.tgz) = 7e119c1a600dd36cef4ff0502c3c9142 MD5 (install44.iso) = 29c5424f39674b2180570dbaaa3ba038 MD5 (man44.tgz) = a49d6bb97980975230fd0b39ba60ced9 MD5 (misc44.tgz) = c4c6b3c0b9ac04424354ae10ccab6f6f MD5 (pxeboot) = 6d24b0694bc23b642db9230fc02726b6
incorrect MD5 file on mirror
Hello, I got the install44.iso and MD5 from snapshots from openbsd.informatik.uni-erlangen.de and the MD5 file failed the test. I got the MD5 from ftp.openbsd.org and run it against the install44.iso from openbsd.informatik[...] and it reports OK. Comparing the two MD5 files, there are major differences, looks like the MD5 from informatik is wrong.
broken dependencies ?
Hello all, Back in time I switched from -release to -current, but I'm installing from snapshots. I saw the announce about uvideo stuff and I am very interested about this that's why I installed the most recent snapshot for testing. The date of the snapshot is 19-June, I also proceeded to install some packages to test the video camera. One package people speak about is ekiga. And here is the surprise: a lot of unexpected errors on install using pkg_add: Can't install package...: Can't resolve lib Of course ekiga is highly dependent of gnome stuff, so you get a lot of install. First errors are encountered on cairo and pongo stuff, related to gnome. I tried to install gnome-session all together, but the errors are present. Don't bother to tell about relation from kernel and glibc , I waited for the packages to be close to the kernel compilation date. IT should work. I don't complain, but what I can do. I am not sure about a diagnose, I think The packages are broken. But I'm not an expert and I don't want to make stupid appreciation on others people great work. I can send the exact errors. It will be copy by hand, since my OBSD computer is almost not installed, without X. Please send and idea, am I doing something wrong ? The other way will be to use anonymous cvs and compile everything from scratch, but I'm not sure about this. Is the snapshot a reliable stuff or not ? Thanks
mplayer snapshot install
Hello, Did anyone actually installed and tried to use mplayer on a snapshot install? I've installed OpenBSD 4.3 from snapshots and then mplayer package (of course, from snapshot pacakges.) When I run mplayer, i get this - mplayer: can't load library 'libjack.so.0.0' Already searched the web, and my directories also: there is no libjack on my disk and the web is not so rich in infos about it. Some ideas are welcome. Thanks.
Re: mplayer snapshot install
Finally I found the project's webpage. The release package is jack- not libjack-. In the snapshots packages one can find jack- and install fine. Then mplayer is running fine. Note that jack- package is not listed in Application Packages link on the openbsd.org. Shouldn't mplayer package install it as a dependency? On Sun, May 4, 2008 at 1:25 PM, Mihai Popescu B.S. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, Did anyone actually installed and tried to use mplayer on a snapshot install? I've installed OpenBSD 4.3 from snapshots and then mplayer package (of course, from snapshot pacakges.) When I run mplayer, i get this - mplayer: can't load library 'libjack.so.0.0' Already searched the web, and my directories also: there is no libjack on my disk and the web is not so rich in infos about it. Some ideas are welcome. Thanks.
the snapshots way
Hello, Since the applications packages are not updated anymore for -release / -stable I decided to follow the snapshots. I know that this way is for experienced users and I'm not as good as a developer but I need to stay with this. The FAQ is not so rich in answers for this section. The other option is to follow -current, but as I see one must sync the source from a CVS server and then recompile periodically. I want to let this step for later to follow. For all those who follow somehow the snapshots, I want to ask a few questions I stumbled upon: 1. Sometimes, the files present on the snapshots/i386 don't have all the same date/time, usually the kernel files differs from X files - is it fine to mix different compile files ? Does it mean that X files are not affected by kernel other stuff new modifications ? 2. Saying that I have some snapshot installed and a new package or an update for the package is added on ftp - is it safe to install it on the existing snapshot (assuming that the ftp snapshot was already renewed ) ? 3. I'm trying to establish a rule on how often I need to reinstall the new snapshot, can you give some advices ? Thanks
