Re: Flatbed scanner that works well with OpenBSD?

2018-02-23 Thread Ralph Siegler 
On Mon, 22 Jan 2018 17:57:24 +0900, Bryan Linton wrote:

> On 2018-01-19 21:59:09, Bryan Linton  wrote:
>> Hello misc@
>> 
>> I'm currently looking to purchase a scanner that works well with
>> OpenBSD.
>> 
>> 
> I want to thank all the people who replied in this thread.
> 
> I tried searching for some of the models several posters recommended,
> but unfortunately they seem to be too old to be found at the places I
> looked.
> 
> I think my best bet is to find a cheap all-in-one device that can scan
> directly to USB and just make use of that.
> 
> Thanks again to all who replied!

Plenty of scanners can now email or scan to cifs/samba shared drive too.  
Getting scan into my openbsd box not an issue since my HP MPF can do all 
the above.

Re: Would you use OpenBSD on Power8, and if so what applications? (IBM asks! They're thinking about donating hw.)

2016-10-19 Thread Ralph Siegler 
On Wed, 19 Oct 2016 23:50:11 +0800, Mikael wrote:

> 2016-10-19 23:18 GMT+08:00 Ralph Siegler <rsieg...@rsiegler.org>:
> 
>> On Wed, 19 Oct 2016 15:18:02 +0200, Otto Moerbeek wrote:
>>
>> > Director of the Power(8) Ecosystem & Alliances,
>>
>>
>> > "It would be helpful to know where you are seeing requests for
>> > OpenBSD
>> on
>> > Power and what applications on top of OpenBSD are being requested. We
>> have
>> > not seen any requests as of yet from our target clients. "
>>
>> I really don't think the eternal optimists here in openbsd.misc
>> understand the real meaning behind her words, so I will be the cruel
>> and heartless one that translates those kind and diplomatic words to
>> Mikael into the common tongue.  What she was really saying was:
>>
>>  (colloquial vernacular for self-pleasuring as obtainable alternative 
to receiving IBM donations)
>>
> I see what you mean and I am unconvinced that you are correct about your
> suggestion.
> 
> They are a for-profit though. I guess we'll see over time how much their
> heart is on their ecosystem (vs. only on individual large customers), as
> in, if it is, then OpenBSD is very interesting for them, and if not,
> not.

Their ecosystem?

closed source softwares including for x86-64 like Websphere, DB2, MQ, 
Domino, various compilers etc.  None of that will run on OpenBSD (maybe 
slim chance of getting some of it running on FreeBSD as kiddie science 
project but would be unsupported by IBM so no business would even 
consider that)

Hardware platforms limited to Power ($11,000 and up), Z series ($60,000 
and up), LinuxOne (power with containers by usage, $5,800 a month and 
up)  

IBM storage 

IBM Services - tech agnostic  consulting

I think they know  their ecosystem.  Not seeing anything for or related 
to OpenBSD in there.

Re: Would you use OpenBSD on Power8, and if so what applications? (IBM asks! They're thinking about donating hw.)

2016-10-19 Thread Ralph Siegler 
On Wed, 19 Oct 2016 15:18:02 +0200, Otto Moerbeek wrote:

> Director of the Power(8) Ecosystem & Alliances,

> 
> "It would be helpful to know where you are seeing requests for OpenBSD 
on
> Power and what applications on top of OpenBSD are being requested. We 
have
> not seen any requests as of yet from our target clients. "

I really don't think the eternal optimists here in openbsd.misc 
understand the real meaning behind her words, so I will be the cruel and 
heartless one that translates those kind and diplomatic words to Mikael 
into the common tongue.  What she was really saying was:

"Off is the general direction in which you should fuck"

Re: Would you use OpenBSD on Power8, and if so what applications? (IBM asks! They're thinking about donating hw.)

2016-10-18 Thread Ralph Siegler 
On Wed, 19 Oct 2016 12:29:21 +0800, Mikael wrote:

> 2016-10-19 6:51 GMT+08:00 Ralph Siegler <rsieg...@rsiegler.org>:
>  ..
> 
>> no one is going to buy box from product line that starts at $11,000
>> (non-
>>
>>
> Power8 machine offers start at USD 2,850:
> http://www.tyan.com/campaign/openpower/index.html
> 
> And their standard prices are USD 5,530 and up, that is
> http://www.tyan.com/Barebones_TN71-BP012_BSP012T71V14HR-4T-3 .

that is not an IBM Power E8xx or S8xx server, it can't for example run AIX 
or system i, has different architecture

Porting OpenBSD to Tyan would not give you an OpenBSD that ran on IBM 
business system

Re: Would you use OpenBSD on Power8, and if so what applications? (IBM asks! They're thinking about donating hw.)

2016-10-18 Thread Ralph Siegler 
On Tue, 18 Oct 2016 21:42:13 -0500, Chris Bennett wrote:

> On Wed, Oct 19, 2016 at 02:06:51AM +0000, Ralph Siegler wrote:
>> 
>> Linux on Power8 provides a way to run certain  closed source softwares
>> that are certified to run on  Linux on PowerPC. Of course, those
>> softwares generally run even faster on AIX with less "loose ends" and
>> bugs because they were specifically developed and tuned for a couple
>> decades using bespoke tools before recent porting to Linux.
>> 
>> 
> Hmm. OpenBSD's license does not in any way prohibit using closed source
> software with it. Would it be better than AIX or Linux?

None of that closed source software will ever run on OpenBSD.  There will 
never be IBM Websphere for OpenBSD, nor Lawson Financials for OpenBSD, 
nor JDEdwards EnterpriseOne for OpenBSD. 


> Maybe. Or maybe not. Speed has not been the primary goal of OpenBSD.
> Which is OK for me. But, for such a high priced box, I think speed might
> be way up there or would reliability be more important?
> 
In most cases the reliability of the OS and the kind of  app I'm talking 
about is a given, uptime will be indefinite for most customers.  It's a 
OS plus app plus libraries plus tools solution groomed over a couple 
decades for that architecture.  Security will be external, right or wrong 
that's how it is.



> For example, scientific software would definitely place more emphasis on
> precise and accurate calculations rather than speed.
>
There are specs for that and standard libraries, certainly for HPC where 
power architecture plays speed is huge consideration but then they have 
nvidia gpu doing the bulk of the work along side of the power8, different 
beast than business power8.


> 
>> 
>> Developers are interested in that architecture you say...yes I believe
>> that.  I'm a photographer and am interested in a Hasselblad H5D-200c
>> which the body alone goes for $45,000.  I can't afford one, let alone
>> say  put a lens on it, have no earthly use that would  require
>> one.but dang if it isn't cool.
>> > 
>> > Below you suggest getting going with Power6 and 7, which are much
>> > cheaper to purchase.
>> > 
>> > Would it be reasonable to look at this the other way around:
>> > 
>> > Develop the Power8 architecture now so that when prices fall later,
>> > companies can then afford to buy them and immediately use a developed
>> > and tested OpenBSD on them?
>> 
>> Develop for architecture none of the userbase has or will have for five
>> plus years?   Of course the BSD licensed open source drivers that IBM
>> will provide for all that poop that flies by in the five minute POST
>> time will make the job easier, and the megabytes of spec docs they've
>> written...cause they wouldn't have the gall to  hand over BLOBs for
>> hardware without full specs
>> 
>> 
> Supposedly, IBM is energetically supporting Open Source for this.
> 
> 
>> We'll have to make the BSD foundation thermometer taller for N devs
>> times $170 month or more extra electric bill.
>> 
>> 
> If IBM is really interested in Open Source, they might just decide to
> donate to the OpenBSD Foundation. Would pay the electric bill
> (hopefully).

OpenBSD foots electric bill for devs? 


Oh, and when they start power8 box will put a HP blade chassis  to shame 
with the volume level for a few minutes, I couldn't imagine having one in 
a home and repeatedly booting to port an OS.  
> 
> But talk is not action.

Action is too expense, too pointless.  It's out of league just as a Cray 
vector supercomputer  OpenBSD port would be

> 
> 
> General question:
> Would Power8 lead to using Power9, Power10, etc?


 too expensive to have for development, too expensive to run, to 
expensive for a userbase while businesses waited for a mature version, no 
compelling use case in the open source world that couldn't be done with 
Xeon drawing half to a third the power.  

> 
> Chris Bennett

Re: Would you use OpenBSD on Power8, and if so what applications? (IBM asks! They're thinking about donating hw.)

2016-10-18 Thread Ralph Siegler 
On Tue, 18 Oct 2016 18:28:58 -0500, Chris Bennett wrote:

> On Tue, Oct 18, 2016 at 10:51:56PM +0000, Ralph Siegler wrote:
>> On Tue, 18 Oct 2016 11:48:04 -0600, Jack J. Woehr wrote:
>> 
>> > Chris Bennett wrote:
>> >> Does anyone need a Power8?
>> > 
>> > Chris, this is the hottest high-end server in the IBM universe today.
>> 
>> > The Power8 *needs* OpenBSD because they don't have a really good
>> > firewalling regimen at that level.
>> > 
>> > 
>> Ya know, I actually admin some AIX Power8 boxes besides the Linux and
>> BSD at work, and put together the specs for two employer just purchased
>>  for G/L application
>> 
>> 
> Ah, someone with some Power8 boxes!
> 
> OK, Power8 officially works with Linux.
> What does Linux bring to the table for these boxes?
> Useful applications or just showing up for the hell of it?
> 
> Off-list, I have been informed that there ARE developers interested in
> this architecture.

Linux on Power8 provides a way to run certain  closed source softwares 
that are certified to run on  Linux on PowerPC. Of course, those 
softwares generally run even faster on AIX with less "loose ends" and 
bugs because they were specifically developed and tuned for a couple 
decades using bespoke tools before recent porting to Linux.  



Developers are interested in that architecture you say...yes I believe 
that.  I'm a photographer and am interested in a Hasselblad H5D-200c 
which the body alone goes for $45,000.  I can't afford one, let alone 
say  put a lens on it, have no earthly use that would  require 
one.but dang if it isn't cool. 
> 
> Below you suggest getting going with Power6 and 7, which are much
> cheaper to purchase.
> 
> Would it be reasonable to look at this the other way around:
> 
> Develop the Power8 architecture now so that when prices fall later,
> companies can then afford to buy them and immediately use a developed
> and tested OpenBSD on them?

Develop for architecture none of the userbase has or will have for five 
plus years?   Of course the BSD licensed open source drivers that IBM 
will provide for all that poop that flies by in the five minute POST time 
will make the job easier, and the megabytes of spec docs they've 
written...cause they wouldn't have the gall to  hand over BLOBs for 
hardware without full specs

We'll have to make the BSD foundation thermometer taller for N devs times 
$170 month or more extra electric bill. 

> 
> Chris Bennett
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> and openbsd is my favorite server OS
>> 
>> BUT
>> 
>> no one is going to buy box from product line that starts at $11,000
>> (non-
>> expandable entry level box) to run pf on 1 of its six cores.   That's
>> crazy talk.  And anu more usual power8 box is going to be $50K and up.
>> x86-64 would be much more cost effective for any app where OpenBSD
>> shines like web server, mail, dns, firewall, router, etc. and etc.
>> 
>> There is zero need, use or justification for openbsd on power8 in 2016.
>> People buy power8 because there is app that requires it or other Unix
>> with a (TM) after it.
>> 
>> For the low end expandable $26,000 each boxes, well at least a body
>> only need plug in two of the four 900W power supplies if only single
>> six-core cpu is installed,  can keep electric bill low that way. HA!
>> 
>> I especially like the comment about wanting openbsd port for power8
>> desktop or laptopsomeone never lifted a power8 chip plus heat sink
>> I can tell
>> 
>> What would be *useful* is Power6 port that could optionally run on
>> later models, some good deals on ebay with power7 going for $3k and up)
>>But IBM isn't going to help with that.

Re: Would you use OpenBSD on Power8, and if so what applications? (IBM asks! They're thinking about donating hw.)

2016-10-18 Thread Ralph Siegler 
On Tue, 18 Oct 2016 11:48:04 -0600, Jack J. Woehr wrote:

> Chris Bennett wrote:
>> Does anyone need a Power8?
> 
> Chris, this is the hottest high-end server in the IBM universe today.

> The Power8 *needs* OpenBSD because they don't have a really good
> firewalling regimen at that level.
> 

Ya know, I actually admin some AIX Power8 boxes besides the Linux and BSD 
at work, and put together the specs for two employer just purchased  for 
G/L application

and openbsd is my favorite server OS

BUT

no one is going to buy box from product line that starts at $11,000 (non-
expandable entry level box) to run pf on 1 of its six cores.   That's 
crazy talk.  And anu more usual power8 box is going to be $50K and up.  
x86-64 would be much more cost effective for any app where OpenBSD shines 
like web server, mail, dns, firewall, router, etc. and etc.

There is zero need, use or justification for openbsd on power8 in 2016.  
People buy power8 because there is app that requires it or other Unix 
with a (TM) after it.

For the low end expandable $26,000 each boxes, well at least a body only 
need plug in two of the four 900W power supplies if only single six-core 
cpu is installed,  can keep electric bill low that way. HA!

I especially like the comment about wanting openbsd port for power8 
desktop or laptopsomeone never lifted a power8 chip plus heat sink I 
can tell

What would be *useful* is Power6 port that could optionally run on later 
models, some good deals on ebay with power7 going for $3k and up)But 
IBM isn't going to help with that.

Re: OpenBSD 6.0 CDs arrived today

2016-09-13 Thread Ralph Siegler 
On Wed, 07 Sep 2016 18:49:50 -0400, Kenneth Gober wrote:

> Shipments of OpenBSD 6.0 CDs have started arriving, I'm in the USA,
> New York area.
> 
> -ken

Hurray, mine finally arrived north of Chicago, IL USA.It went through 
UK post office Aug 31 so probably U.S. side delay.

Must wipe a tear *sniff* since it's the last OpenBSD physical CD set 
ever, my first purchased set was 2.9 release used when I ran my domain on 
a Sparcstation 5 with 24MB RAM. 

Thanks to the devs for continued fine quality work

Ralph

Re: obsd limits

2016-07-23 Thread Ralph Siegler 
On Wed, 29 Jun 2016 21:44:24 +0200, Francois Pussault wrote:

> you may have already read it ...
> http://www.openbsd.org/faq/faq14.html#LargeDrive
> 
>> 
>> From: Friedrich Locke 
>> Sent: Wed Jun 29 21:38:20 CEST 2016 To: openbsd-misc 
>> Subject: obsd limits
>>
>>
>> Hi.
>>
>> I was wondering what is the maximum size an openbsd partition may be.
>> May anybody clarify me ?
>>
>> Thanks in advance.
>>
>> PS: sorry if this question has been asked before.
>>
>>
> 
> Cordialement Francois Pussault 10 chemin de négo saoumos apt 202 - bat 2
> 31300 Toulouse +33 6 17 230 820   +33 5 34 365 269
> fpussa...@contactoffice.fr


It's not there anymore, but I remember it used to be there and also 
mention of maximum filesystem size.  newfs(8) says:

FFS2 file systems can be as large as 64PB, Note however that for mount_mfs 
the practical limit is based on datasize in login.conf(5) and ultimately 
depends on the per-arch MAXDSIZ limit


Now somewhere else a couple years ago I remember maximum individual file 
size being 8TB.  Hmmm, maybe I should research this and submit a diff for 
the web page

Re: 5.9 discs in the wild. North America

2016-04-25 Thread Ralph Siegler 
On Wed, 20 Apr 2016 20:45:18 -0700, noah pugsley wrote:

> Thank you all for the best little correctness focused general purpose
> operating system in the known universe.
> 

> 
> -noah
> 

Arrived north of Chicago IL USA today.   Thanks very much!

Re: CD's arrived

2015-10-13 Thread Ralph Siegler 
On Wed, 07 Oct 2015 14:51:28 +, M Wheeler wrote:

> CD's arrived today UK. Thanks again.

Just arrived just north of Chicago, IL USA  (pre-ordered Sept 15)  Many 
thanks!

Re: OpenBSD 5.7 Released

2015-05-01 Thread Ralph Siegler 
On Fri, 01 May 2015 09:00:43 +0100, OpenBSD Store Misc wrote:

 Ralph Siegler wrote:
 On Fri, 01 May 2015 00:06:46 +0200, Stefan Sperling wrote:

 May 1, 2015.

 We are pleased to announce the official release of OpenBSD 5.7.
 This is our 37th release on CD-ROM

 strange, this time round the pre-ordered (hours after announcement) 
 CD's haven't shown up by now, either for me in USA or my friends in UK.


 We are very sorry, but there has been a production problem with 5.7 CDs
 - this is NOT a problem with the 5.7 release, but a manufacturing
 problem in that one of the master CD's was damaged in transit to the
 production facility, and this has resulted in a delay in shipping of the
 CD orders.
 
 We are contacting all customers today privately. We now expect to ship
 Thursday, 7th May. We are trying our best to ship before this date.
 
 We are sorry guys.

Bummer!  thanks for the heads up

I'll light a candle in the window and wait in the rocking chair for the 
Prodigal Puffy

Re: OpenBSD 5.7 Released

2015-04-30 Thread Ralph Siegler 
On Fri, 01 May 2015 00:06:46 +0200, Stefan Sperling wrote:

 May 1, 2015.
 
 We are pleased to announce the official release of OpenBSD 5.7.
 This is our 37th release on CD-ROM 

strange, this time round the pre-ordered (hours after announcement)  CD's 
haven't shown up by now, either for me in USA or my friends in UK.

Re: Help needed: pkg_add dropps connections

2015-02-21 Thread Ralph Siegler 
On Tue, 17 Feb 2015 15:15:14 +0100, Stefan Wollny wrote:

 Hello!
 
 I'd like to pick up an issue that is bugging me for some time now:
 Whenever I run 'pkg_add -ui' my connection gets terminated soon,
 reliably at the latest once packages starting with g are checked. I
 suspect it is in my pf.conf but it is not obvious to me.
 


I'll get terminated connection error and route not found from pkg_add 
from some mirrors, e.g. http://mirror.team-cymru.org/pub/OpenBSD/, but 
others OK e.g. http://mirrors.gigenet.com/pub/OpenBSD/

Single file fetches will work though.

  # pfctl -d  
  pfctl: pf not enabled
  # 


  # export PKG_PATH=http://mirror.team-cymru.org/pub/OpenBSD/snapshots/
amd64/

  # pkg_add -ui 

  Error from http://mirror.team-cymru.org/pub/OpenBSD/snapshots/amd64/
  ftp: connect: No route to host

  # ftp http://mirror.team-cymru.org/pub/OpenBSD/snapshots/amd64/
INSTALL.amd64
  Trying 38.229.66.100...
  Requesting http://mirror.team-cymru.org/pub/OpenBSD/snapshots/amd64/ 
  INSTALL.amd64
  100% |**| 
46518  00:00
  46518 bytes received in 0.07 seconds (628.23 KB/s)


  export PKG_PATH=http://mirrors.gigenet.com/pub/OpenBSD/snapshots/
packages/amd64

  # pkg_add -ui 
  Checking packages|No change in aspell-0.60.6.1p1
  Checking packages|No change in blas-1.0p6
  Checking packages|No change in gimp-2.8.14Checking packages|No change 
in blas-1.0p6



Use debugging for ftp command:

  # export FETCH_CMD=/usr/bin/ftp -d
  # pkg_add -ui
  Error from http://mirror.team-cymru.org/pub/OpenBSD/snapshots/amd64/
   host mirror.team-cymru.org, port (null), path pub/OpenBSD/snapshots/   
amd64/, save as -, auth (null).
  Host: mirror.team-cymru.org
  User-Agent: OpenBSD ftp


  received 'HTTP/1.0 200 OK'
  received 'Content-Type: text/html'
  received 'Content-Length: 5209'
  received 'Connection: close'
  received 'Date: Sat, 21 Feb 2015 21:24:27 GMT'
  received 'Server: mirror.team-cymru.org'
  http://mirror.team-cymru.org/pub/OpenBSD/snapshots/amd64/ is empty

# uname -a
OpenBSD puffy-san.rsiegler.net 5.7 GENERIC.MP#858 amd64
# 
OpenBSD 5.7-beta (GENERIC.MP) #0: Mon Feb 16 16:14:55 CST 2015
r...@puffy-san.rsiegler.net:/usr/src/sys/arch/amd64/compile/GENERIC.MP
real mem = 17162633216 (16367MB)
avail mem = 16701853696 (15928MB)
mpath0 at root
scsibus0 at mpath0: 256 targets
mainbus0 at root
bios0 at mainbus0: SMBIOS rev. 2.5 @ 0xfd3f0 (50 entries)
bios0: vendor American Megatrends Inc. version V1.10 date 02/28/2011
bios0: MICRO-STAR INTERNATIONAL CO.,LTD MS-7596
acpi0 at bios0: rev 0
acpi0: sleep states S0 S1 S4 S5
acpi0: tables DSDT FACP APIC MCFG OEMB SRAT HPET SSDT
acpi0: wakeup devices PCE2(S4) PCE3(S4) PCE4(S4) PCE5(S4) PCE6(S4) PCE7
(S4) PCE9(S4) PCEA(S4) PCEB(S4) PCEC(S4) SBAZ(S4) PSKE(S4) PSMS(S4) ECIR
(S4) PS2K(S1) PS2M(S1) [...]
acpitimer0 at acpi0: 3579545 Hz, 32 bits
acpimadt0 at acpi0 addr 0xfee0: PC-AT compat
cpu0 at mainbus0: apid 0 (boot processor)
cpu0: AMD Phenom(tm) II X6 1075T Processor, 3000.62 MHz
cpu0: 
FPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,CFLUSH,
MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,HTT,SSE3,MWAIT,CX16,POPCNT,NXE,MMXX,FFXSR,PAGE1GB,LONG,3DNOW2,
3DNOW,LAHF,CMPLEG,SVM,EAPICSP,AMCR8,ABM,SSE4A,MASSE,3DNOWP,OSVW,IBS,SKINIT,ITSC
cpu0: 64KB 64b/line 2-way I-cache, 64KB 64b/line 2-way D-cache, 512KB 64b/
line 16-way L2 cache, 6MB 64b/line 48-way L3 cache
cpu0: ITLB 32 4KB entries fully associative, 16 4MB entries fully 
associative
cpu0: DTLB 48 4KB entries fully associative, 48 4MB entries fully 
associative
cpu0: AMD erratum 721 detected and fixed
cpu0: smt 0, core 0, package 0
mtrr: Pentium Pro MTRR support, 8 var ranges, 88 fixed ranges
cpu0: apic clock running at 200MHz
cpu0: mwait min=64, max=64, C-substates=0.0.0.0.0, IBE
cpu1 at mainbus0: apid 1 (application processor)
cpu1: AMD Phenom(tm) II X6 1075T Processor, 3000.15 MHz
cpu1: 
FPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,CFLUSH,MMX,
FXSR,SSE,SSE2,HTT,SSE3,MWAIT,CX16,POPCNT,NXE,MMXX,FFXSR,PAGE1GB,LONG,3DNOW2,3DNOW,
LAHF,CMPLEG,SVM,EAPICSP,AMCR8,ABM,SSE4A,MASSE,3DNOWP,OSVW,IBS,SKINIT,ITSC
cpu1: 64KB 64b/line 2-way I-cache, 64KB 64b/line 2-way D-cache, 512KB 64b/
line 16-way
 L2 cache, 6MB 64b/line 48-way L3 cache
cpu1: ITLB 32 4KB entries fully associative, 16 4MB entries fully 
associative
cpu1: DTLB 48 4KB entries fully associative, 48 4MB entries fully 
associative
cpu1: AMD erratum 721 detected and fixed
cpu1: smt 0, core 1, package 0
cpu2 at mainbus0: apid 2 (application processor)
cpu2: AMD Phenom(tm) II X6 1075T Processor, 3000.15 MHz
cpu2: FPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,
PAT,PSE36,CFLUSH,MMX,
FXSR,SSE,SSE2,HTT,SSE3,MWAIT,CX16,POPCNT,NXE,MMXX,FFXSR,PAGE1GB,LONG,3DNOW2,3DNOW,
LAHF,CMPLEG,SVM,EAPICSP,AMCR8,ABM,SSE4A,MASSE,3DNOWP,OSVW,IBS,SKINIT,ITSC
cpu2: 64KB 64b/line 2-way I-cache, 64KB 64b/line 2-way D-cache, 512KB 64b/
line 16-way L2 cache, 6MB 64b/line 48-way L3 cache
cpu2: ITLB 32

Re: how to follow libressl stable in openBSD 5.6?

2015-01-29 Thread Ralph Siegler 
On Thu, 29 Jan 2015 14:01:12 +, Maurice McCarthy wrote:

 Harald,
 
 Thinking about it Libressl is not in 5.6 at all. There is only Openssl.
 The easiest way to keep stable up to date is to install the openup
 script from mtier.
 https://stable.mtier.org/
 
 Regards Moss

LibreSSL is indeed in 5.6

ziggy@arty /$ uname -v -s -r
OpenBSD 5.6 GENERIC.MP#1

ziggy@arty /$ openssl version
LibreSSL 2.0

Re: 5.6 arrived

2014-10-27 Thread Ralph Siegler 
On Fri, 24 Oct 2014 12:21:15 +0100, Maurice McCarthy wrote:

 OpenBSD 5.6 arrived Swansea UK today, 24 Oct 2014.

Arrived north of Chicago IL, USA on  27 Oct 2014   

On new website looked at shipping address during order and realized a 
couple things needed to be rearranged to make things look US normal, so 
did that.  I understand the website has changed that a little since.

Re: 5.5 CDs arriving

2014-05-04 Thread Ralph Siegler 
On Wed, 30 Apr 2014 15:59:46 -0400, JJ Jumpercables wrote:

 On Wed, Apr 30, 2014 at 12:56 PM, Dave Anderson d...@daveanderson.com
 wrote:
 Just got mine, near Boston, Mass.


 Jut curious... how long ago did you order?

In Chicago suburb, ordered April 6, set was shipped the 27th and arrived 
May 1.

To those who follow -stable, if you update via CVS rather than manual 
patch you'll also get a newer ssh version 6.6 - 6.6.1

Re: heartbleed: is 5.1-stable vulnerable as it reports

2014-04-27 Thread Ralph Siegler 
On Sat, 26 Apr 2014 09:27:50 -0700, Yassen Damyanov wrote:

 Pardon me, just saw that it says 1.0.0f, not 1.0.1f.
 Fear makes the wolf look bigger!
 Y.
 
 

There are other things to worry about if you are running 5.1, what about 
that use-after-free race condition openssl has that is patched in 5.3, 
5.4 and 5.5 version?  To say nothing of many other things that affect 
security outside of openssl problems.

if you care, why not run version that is maintained and patched, by 
upgrading every year at least?

Re: OT: Re: FYA: http://heartbleed.com/

2014-04-23 Thread Ralph Siegler 
On Thu, 10 Apr 2014 03:44:26 +, Ralph W Siegler wrote:

 Stuart Henderson stu at spacehopper.org writes:
 
 
 On 2014-04-09, sven falempin sven.falempin at gmail.com wrote:
  i which this : https://polarssl.org was open and inside the base
 
 You can wish, but that is commercial+GPL code so OpenBSD can't use it
 in base.
 
 What I would wish for is the OpenSSH project to expand to become the
 OpenSSH/SSL project.  I'll take  a 'correct and slow' transport layer
 security over 'fast and bypassing my OS's memory protection features'
 transport layer security any day.   Such a scope would seem to be within
 the purview of securing communications.

Dang, I got my wish with the LibreSSL project!  Another donation coming 
up!

Re: Can't reach www.openbsd.org

2010-11-02 Thread Ralph Siegler 
Henning Brauer lists-openbsd at bsws.de writes:


 
 use any mirror. any.
 
 there are problems with the www.openbsd.org machine right now that are
 being worked on.
 

the mirrors have problems too, haven't found one with 
valid packages collection yet

Re: Can't reach www.openbsd.org

2010-11-02 Thread Ralph Siegler 
Stuart Henderson stu at spacehopper.org writes:

 
 
 http://spacehopper.org/up2date.html
 
 

thank you very much, Stuart, that's a great page for OpenBSD users of install
and package files.  So is the mirmon report you have linked there with the
mirror update stats.