Re: Narcicism?
I read the thread, Mr. Hogan. Standing up for someone you consider a friend is not being full of yourself. --- On Mon, 12/5/11, Neal Hogan nealho...@gmail.com wrote: From: Neal Hogan nealho...@gmail.com Subject: Re: Narcicism? To: Super Biscuit super_bisq...@yahoo.com Date: Monday, December 5, 2011, 9:57 PM On Mon, Dec 5, 2011 at 3:04 PM, Super Biscuit super_bisq...@yahoo.com wrote: Mr. Eric Oyen is blind. He cannot see the keyboard and makes occasional mistakes. Had you ever read or subscribed to the OpenBSD powerpc mailing lists, you would know this. If you had a sense of humor and read this thread, you wouldn't have reacted this way. Of course, we all make mistakes and he actually responded to me with a chuckle. Get over yourself, Mr. Super Biscuit. --- On Thu, 12/1/11, Neal Hogan nealho...@gmail.com wrote: From: Neal Hogan nealho...@gmail.com Subject: Re: Narcicism? To: Eric Oyen eric.o...@gmail.com Cc: misc misc@openbsd.org Date: Thursday, December 1, 2011, 11:12 PM On 12/1/11, Eric Oyen eric.o...@gmail.com wrote: like any other population, we have our parrots, non-thinkers, OCD, Bi-polar, stupid or the otherwise normal. we also have more than a few extremely intelligent people. one thing I have noticed (because I also suffer from it) is that more intelligent you are, the worse your interpersonal skills tend to be. mow, I happen to be fairly intelligent (somewhere north of the upper 130's) , Oh ya? Well, you spelled 'now' wrong ;-)
Re: Narcicism?
Already overreacted. So, an open apology to Mr. Hogan. I'm reading and replying to the threads from earliest to latest. School's fine. I'm doing a short presentation on BSD systems this morning and a mock trial. Had the practical exam for the A+ class and I didn't do so well. Messed up on recognizing RAM and didn't remember that RIMM needed to be installed in all four slots. In the computer club offering help to those who want an introduction to the BSD flavors or Debian. --- On Tue, 12/6/11, Eric Oyen eric.o...@gmail.com wrote: From: Eric Oyen eric.o...@gmail.com Subject: Re: Narcicism? To: misc misc@openbsd.org Date: Tuesday, December 6, 2011, 3:13 AM easy there pardoner! :) I think he was pointing out my spelling error in jest. anyway, go easy on him as he probably didn't know (and I make it a point not to call attention to my disability, except where it becomes necessary). so, how is school going? -eric On Dec 5, 2011, at 2:04 PM, Super Biscuit wrote: Mr. Eric Oyen is blind. He cannot see the keyboard and makes occasional mistakes. Had you ever read or subscribed to the OpenBSD powerpc mailing lists, you would know this.
Re: Narcicism?
Last time that I had worked on OpenBSD on PowerPC was with the BW G3. Lowend Macs aren't good at compiling. I have a Quicksilver and a iMac G4 with the former being available to use. No home internet connection as of yet-- which makes it difficult. It wasn't Orca but I think emacspeak which I tried to get working on PPC with little luck. I'll get back to that project when I have home internet. Second solution was trying to make a Debian Live CD as a PPC Vinux clone. That also needs to be redone. Exporting home scripts seems to be the problem. --- On Tue, 12/6/11, Tomas Bodzar tomas.bod...@gmail.com wrote: From: Tomas Bodzar tomas.bod...@gmail.com Subject: Re: Narcicism? To: Eric Oyen eric.o...@gmail.com Cc: misc misc@openbsd.org Date: Tuesday, December 6, 2011, 6:53 AM On Tue, Dec 6, 2011 at 4:13 AM, Eric Oyen eric.o...@gmail.com wrote: easy there pardoner! :) I think he was pointing out my spelling error in jest. anyway, go easy on him as he probably didn't know (and I make it a point not to call attention to my disability, except where it becomes necessary). Will be very off topic, but if you're using OpenBSD for your school/work don't you think that it will be fine post for undeadly.org about your stuff? Not sure how much apps is available in OpenBSD for people with some disability. Thx so, how is school going? -eric On Dec 5, 2011, at 2:04 PM, Super Biscuit wrote: Mr. Eric Oyen is blind. He cannot see the keyboard and makes occasional mistakes. Had you ever read or subscribed to the OpenBSD powerpc mailing lists, you would know this.
Re: Narcicism?
Mr. Eric Oyen is blind. He cannot see the keyboard and makes occasional mistakes. Had you ever read or subscribed to the OpenBSD powerpc mailing lists, you would know this. --- On Thu, 12/1/11, Neal Hogan nealho...@gmail.com wrote: From: Neal Hogan nealho...@gmail.com Subject: Re: Narcicism? To: Eric Oyen eric.o...@gmail.com Cc: misc misc@openbsd.org Date: Thursday, December 1, 2011, 11:12 PM On 12/1/11, Eric Oyen eric.o...@gmail.com wrote: like any other population, we have our parrots, non-thinkers, OCD, Bi-polar, stupid or the otherwise normal. we also have more than a few extremely intelligent people. one thing I have noticed (because I also suffer from it) is that more intelligent you are, the worse your interpersonal skills tend to be. mow, I happen to be fairly intelligent (somewhere north of the upper 130's) , Oh ya? Well, you spelled 'now' wrong ;-)
Re: Narcicism?
You have another G3? --- On Fri, 12/2/11, Eric Oyen n7...@hotmail.com wrote: From: Eric Oyen n7...@hotmail.com Subject: Re: Narcicism? To: misc misc@openbsd.org Date: Friday, December 2, 2011, 8:15 AM so true. on another note, I recently had some help getting linux up and working on a macbook g3 )lombard) but ran into some problems with the dubs interprocess communications system. I was wondering if ORCA (a python based screenreader for the blind on the gnome desktop environment) would work in X on openbsd. I may also have to set up an OpenBSD vm with ssh ready to go so I can run the setup from a terminal. I might even check into using that same G3 as a testbed. thoughts? -eric On Dec 1, 2011, at 4:03 PM, Richard Thornton wrote: I have known geniuses who were computer illiterate. On Dec 1, 2011 5:58 PM, Eric Oyen eric.o...@gmail.com wrote: like any other population, we have our parrots, non-thinkers, OCD, Bi-polar, stupid or the otherwise normal. we also have more than a few extremely intelligent people. one thing I have noticed (because I also suffer from it) is that more intelligent you are, the worse your interpersonal skills tend to be. mow, I happen to be fairly intelligent (somewhere north of the upper 130's) , but I am not so far above the normals that I can't understand them. I have known people so intelligent that they have virtually no understanding of how their fellow human beings work (and I can understand that position as well). the point I am hoping to make is that we all have our quirks, behavioral problems and skills (and that is fine by me). all that is needed is a little understanding and a very thick skin. -eric On Dec 1, 2011, at 12:28 AM, John Tate wrote: I think I've found a bug in the OpenBSD crowd. They bug the hell out of me and my little mistakes. I am not talking about people who actually have a solution, but I can't seem to ask anything on this list without parrots coming along picking on me. I think some people just hang out here because it's the most anal bunch of hackers ever, in recorded history. What are your experiences? Is it true that occasionally we attract people who either love bullying or are just lazy and pretending to be one of the clever? It just figures some of these people sit on the list, and email you poorly researched crap with no answers contain. If you hate a question, it truly doesn't belong, bug me. But if you just can't answer a question, ignore it. John Tate. Note: Yes, it's not my list. -- www.johntate.org
Re: CDDL vs GPL and maybe some implications for BSD?
SmartOS is IllumOS. The license mixing isn't a good thing. I'm just a regular user of FreeBSD, NetBSD, and OpenBSD. I receive no paycheck. I have little to no money. I am destitute. People have trouble adapting and accepting change when it isn't under stress. Others fear to go against what is accepted- i.e. the norm. Complacency is a crutch for others. What the foundations and organizations do is not always reflective of the individual members. Mr. de Raadt, you are right to state politics plays a big part; but, you are also wrong to think that all of us have a hand in that process- It is a committee and not a democracy. --- On Fri, 8/26/11, Theo de Raadt dera...@cvs.openbsd.org wrote: From: Theo de Raadt dera...@cvs.openbsd.org Subject: Re: CDDL vs GPL and maybe some implications for BSD? To: Amit Kulkarni amitk...@gmail.com Cc: Nick Holland n...@holland-consulting.net, misc@openbsd.org Date: Friday, August 26, 2011, 2:57 AM I don't think Free and Net learnt anything from the old Unix lawsuit, the whole unpleasantness of it. Their group is largely American; and when not in location they are so in perspective. Why would they have learned anything? Shall I keep it short? They are simplistic retards, not because they choose to be, but because their paychecks tell them to be so. And I invite one of them on our mailing lists to stand up and call me on that.
Re: OT: Re: Seems OpenBSD isn't absolutely alone in it's quest, atleast on embedded systems.
+1 --- On Wed, 6/8/11, Theo de Raadt dera...@cvs.openbsd.org wrote: From: Theo de Raadt dera...@cvs.openbsd.org Subject: Re: OT: Re: Seems OpenBSD isn't absolutely alone in it's quest, atleast on embedded systems. To: Nicholas Marriott nicholas.marri...@gmail.com Cc: Thomas de Grivel billi...@gmail.com, Christiano F. Haesbaert haesba...@haesbaert.org, misc@openbsd.org misc@openbsd.org Date: Wednesday, June 8, 2011, 3:10 AM You are either trolling or just very mixed up, the important thing is not how quickly machines can parse it or how quickly you can write a lexer but how quickly humans can parse it and what they can do with it. C is not the best here but it is way ahead of any kind of useless functional language. Indeed. People write in languages they can understand, just like we are emailing in a language we can all understand. English sucks, yet we all use it. Why are you not trying to miscommunicate with us in dutch, Mr. de Grivel? Because it would fail (though you probably speak the perfect langauge of gmail). You fail anyways since you come off as a salesman of a perfection mythos. When we start writing something in C or any other language, we are writing a chunks of interface code and chunks of data management code. We layer the code using interfaces we decide on very early so that it is easier to determine where the bugs are, at least early on. However almost every time the interface decisions made early on carry on far into the future and eventually screw us. We fix all the data management bugs, and then the interface layers end up being flawed. Subtly, but flawed. They are our next problem. Then when we try to fix them, we introduce new subtle problems. However here is where you are entirely wrong: C is not different. All the languages are like that. That is because we write in the way that we think, and the way we think is biased towards the way we remember. Why the way we remember? That is so that when we see the code again, we can remember what we were thinking. When we make changes in any of them to fix a structural problem, we start to forget layers of our previous thoughts. It becomes less recognizeable. No language or programming system designed to this day is flexible enough so that we can remember the steps of our thought process, and yet also be flexible enough that it allows us to change the interfaces (without us not remembering it next time; the process is highly iterative). And then some details make it even gets worse. We are trying to develop userland programs, and libraries, and the portable include infrastructable managing the variation chaos between 32 bit and 64 bit and signed char vs unsigned char and whatnot layers of variaion; and we are trying to writing boot code, and we are writing kernels to run all this. Add in the bullshit we support it the ports subsystem, and it is no wonder our brains are struggling. When someone tells anyone that there is an answer and some cohesive language will solve this is problem... they are flat out deluded and that delusion comes out of blind stupidity. You obviously have zero experience. The only thing you have experience in is trolling mailing lists acting as if you are some expert. The real experts are the people struggling with these systems, not the pulpit heros.
Re: OT: Re: Seems OpenBSD isn't absolutely alone in it's quest, atleast on embedded systems.
I know neither C(++), or LISP, or PERL, or python or any other language. I've worked on VirtualBox porting to FreeBSD. I am working on GNOME3 on FreeBSD for ppc and sparc64 in my spare time. No lisp, no c, no other language . This is just from being able to read and understand code. I know how far emacspeak can be compiled on OpenBSD PPC and what is needed. Many people can do what I do; but, I don't consider them a waste of mind as you do. Your head is so far up your ass that you have a ring of shit for a necklace. --- On Wed, 6/8/11, Thomas de Grivel billi...@gmail.com wrote: From: Thomas de Grivel billi...@gmail.com Subject: Re: OT: Re: Seems OpenBSD isn't absolutely alone in it's quest, atleast on embedded systems. To: misc@openbsd.org misc@openbsd.org Date: Wednesday, June 8, 2011, 10:23 AM [Other shit removed to concentrate on the ignorance of the last line.] Any hacker not knowing a couple of Lisp macros is a waste of mind. -- Thomas de Grivel I must plunge into the water of doubt again and again.
Re: Theo's Birthday, have you done anything?
Nope. Can't.I live below the poverty level.
Re: Sun blade 1500 experiences ?
The specs on it are sweet. http://forums.nekochan.net/viewtopic.php?f=17t=16723580 A little reference for setting up the video output. --- On Thu, 4/21/11, Christiano F. Haesbaert haesba...@haesbaert.org wrote: From: Christiano F. Haesbaert haesba...@haesbaert.org Subject: Re: Sun blade 1500 experiences ? To: Super Biscuit super_bisq...@yahoo.com Cc: OpenBSD Questions misc@openbsd.org Date: Thursday, April 21, 2011, 3:18 PM Yeeey I ended up losing the auction, but got a sun fire v210 instead. -- Christiano Farina HAESBAERT Do NOT send me html mail.
Re: Sun blade 1500 experiences ?
Sunblade1000 for a desktop. I run OpenBSD on it at times. Mach64 card 1024x768. if you have a better card then the graphics should be better. You can do a lot more with it than just run emacs. --- On Fri, 4/15/11, Christiano F. Haesbaert haesba...@haesbaert.org wrote: From: Christiano F. Haesbaert haesba...@haesbaert.org Subject: Sun blade 1500 experiences ? To: OpenBSD Questions misc@openbsd.org Date: Friday, April 15, 2011, 7:24 PM Hi there, I'm consider buying a sun blade 1500, mainly cause I found a great deal on our local ebay. I was thinking in replacing my aging ultra 5 as my local server, but it turns out it seems like a nice desktop system. Is anyone using a similar machine for desktop ? How is performance in general (Considering X and such) ? Anyone tried 1680 x 1050 ? I'm a heavy emacs user, other than that, I don't run any other significant program (cpu/mem/io) (only mutt, irssi e cia...). Here are the specs: http://www.sun.com/desktop/workstation/sunblade1500/specs.xml Well, I'm getting it anyway, if not for desktop for my server replacement (2x 64bit pci :-)) Does anyone has a dmesg for that ? Thanks
Re: Free heroin shipping!
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Re: Messed up OpenBSD boot after dualbooting via grub - cannot boot without OpenBSD boot CD.
Sometimes you need to add makeactive to the entry. --- On Sat, 3/26/11, Amarendra Godbole amarendra.godb...@gmail.com wrote: From: Amarendra Godbole amarendra.godb...@gmail.com Subject: Messed up OpenBSD boot after dualbooting via grub - cannot boot without OpenBSD boot CD. To: misc misc@openbsd.org Date: Saturday, March 26, 2011, 11:56 AM Hi, I have run into a deadend trying to understand, and troubleshoot this problem. Hence, I would like some pointers. Following is what I did to get my OpenBSD system running, and then subsequently messing it up (in sequence): (1) Installed OpenBSD/i386 on my Thinkpad X201, and built -current. Did reserve ~140G for Windows, and then installed OpenBSD as described in FAQ. Things were fine for a couple of months. (2) Installed Windows XP ghost image to the first partition. Sadly, ntldr was not installed so machine still booted directly into OpenBSD (3) Installed grub. Here is what /grub/menu.lst looks like: default 0 timeout 5 title Windows XP root (hd0,0) chainloader +1 title OpenBSD root (hd0,1) chainloader +1 (4) grub started fine, and Windows XP boots fine, but when I try to boot OpenBSD, I get something like this: Loading... probing: additional details disk: fd0 hd0+* OpenBSD/i386 BOOT 2.13 open(hd0a:/etc/boot.conf): Invalid argument boot booting hd0a:/bsd: open hd0a:/bsd: Invalid argument failed(22). will try ... And OpenBSD never boots. I don't recall changing anything else. From what I know (very little), biosboot was able to load the 2nd stage bootloader, but it now failed loading the kernel image. I can boot successfully into OpenBSD using a 4.8 boot CD though. I tried running installboot again (mindlessly!), and get this error: -- OpenBSD_49$ sudo /usr/mdec/installboot -n -v /boot /usr/mdec/biosboot sd0 Password: boot: /boot proto: /usr/mdec/biosboot device: /dev/rsd0c /boot is 3 blocks x 16384 bytes fs block shift 2; part offset 293603940; inode block 32, offset 10792 master boot record (MBR) at sector 0 partition 0: type 0x07 offset 63 size 293603877 partition 1: type 0xA6 offset 293603940 size 377487360 installboot: invalid location: all of /boot must be sector 268435455. -- disklabel reads: -- OpenBSD_49$ disklabel sd0 # /dev/rsd0c: type: SCSI disk: SCSI disk label: ST9320423AS duid: 93cf9b951f02f209 flags: bytes/sector: 512 sectors/track: 63 tracks/cylinder: 255 sectors/cylinder: 16065 cylinders: 38913 total sectors: 625142448 boundstart: 0 boundend: 0 drivedata: 0 16 partitions: #size offset fstype [fsize bsize cpg] a: 2104508293603940 4.2BSD 2048 163841 # / b: 8385937295708448swap c:6251424480 unused d: 41945696304094400 4.2BSD 2048 163841 # /usr e: 4192960346040096 4.2BSD 2048 163841 # /tmp f: 20964832350233056 4.2BSD 2048 163841 # /usr/local g: 4192960371197888 4.2BSD 2048 163841 # /usr/X11R6 h:125821056375390848 4.2BSD 2048 163841 # /home j: 8385952501211904 4.2BSD 2048 163841 # /var k: 8385920509597856 4.2BSD 2048 163841 # /usr/src l: 12578912517983776 4.2BSD 2048 163841 # /usr/obj OpenBSD_49$ -- dmesg is - OpenBSD 4.9-current (kernel) #5: Wed Mar 23 23:58:17 IST 2011 r...@zimbu.vxindia.veritas.com:/home/amar/site-specific/builds/kernel cpu0: Intel(R) Core(TM) i5 CPU M 520 @ 2.40GHz (GenuineIntel 686-class) 2.40 GHz cpu0: FPU,V86,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,CFLUS H,DS,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SS,HTT,TM,SBF,SSE3,PCLMUL,MWAIT,DS-CPL,VMX,SMX,ES T,TM2,SSSE3,CX16,xTPR,PDCM,SSE4.1,SSE4.2,POPCNT ,AES real mem = 1998659584 (1906MB) avail mem = 1955794944 (1865MB) mainbus0 at root bios0 at mainbus0: AT/286+ BIOS, date 10/26/10, BIOS32 rev. 0 @ 0xfdbe0, SMBIOS rev. 2.6 @ 0xe0010 (78 entries) bios0: vendor LENOVO version 6QET61WW (1.31 ) date 10/26/2010 bios0: LENOVO 3680LA2 acpi0 at bios0: rev 2 acpi0: sleep states S0 S3 S4 S5 acpi0: tables DSDT FACP SSDT ECDT APIC MCFG HPET ASF! SLIC BOOT SSDT TCPA SSDT SSDT SSDT acpi0: wakeup devices LID_(S3) SLPB(S3) IGBE(S4) EXP1(S4) EXP2(S4) EXP3(S4) EXP4(S4) EXP5(S4) EHC1(S3) EHC2(S3) HDEF(S4) acpitimer0 at acpi0: 3579545 Hz, 24 bits acpiec0 at acpi0 acpimadt0 at acpi0 addr 0xfee0: PC-AT compat cpu0 at mainbus0: apid 0 (boot processor) cpu0: apic clock running at 132MHz cpu1 at mainbus0: apid 1 (application processor) cpu1: Intel(R) Core(TM) i5 CPU M 520 @ 2.40GHz (GenuineIntel 686-class) 2.40 GHz cpu1: FPU,V86,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,CFLUS H,DS,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SS,HTT,TM,SBF,SSE3,PCLMUL,MWAIT,DS-CPL,VMX,SMX,ES T,TM2,SSSE3,CX16,xTPR,PDCM,SSE4.1,SSE4.2,POPCNT ,AES cpu2 at mainbus0:
Re: [FIXED] Re: Messed up OpenBSD boot after dualbooting via grub - cannot boot without OpenBSD boot CD.
The 128G limit usually means from the beginning of the disk. I also use chainloader +1 for booting BSDs from x86 machines. Apologies for keeping the thread alive. --- On Sat, 3/26/11, Amarendra Godbole amarendra.godb...@gmail.com wrote: From: Amarendra Godbole amarendra.godb...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [FIXED] Re: Messed up OpenBSD boot after dualbooting via grub - cannot boot without OpenBSD boot CD. To: Kenneth R Westerback kwesterb...@rogers.com Cc: misc misc@openbsd.org Date: Saturday, March 26, 2011, 7:02 PM On Sun, Mar 27, 2011 at 12:23 AM, Kenneth R Westerback kwesterb...@rogers.com wrote: On Sat, Mar 26, 2011 at 11:59:17PM +0530, Amarendra Godbole wrote: Okay, seems like I sent a hasty reply earlier. Got this fixed, by booting off a 4.8 CD, and upgrading - fsck all filesystems, say no to bsd, bsd.mp and base, it created device nodes, and congratulated me for completion of the upgrade. Rebooted, and the system came up nicely. And now has 4.8 or 4.9 installed? 4.9, since I said no to everything. I re-created device nodes after booting, so hopefully things are okay. Noticed two things: (a) the * after hd0+ is gone during boot The '*' reports a failure to find an OpenBSD disklabel. The '+' reports the BIOS claiming support of EDD, a.k.a. BIOS LBA, access. (b) the disklabel now shows proper values for boundstart and boundend - earlier both were 0. Because earlier the OpenBSD partition was not found, and thus unable to provide the bound information. Yes, that was nagging me earlier, but somehow I could not fix it - there is too much to understand for the i386 boot process, and the partition and disklabel is a source of confusion for me. Thanks for your pointers, I atleast had heart to continue trying to fix (agree, I did not understand all - but since the CD boot was working fine, and I have a full backup of my data, I decided to probe.) -Amarendra Thanks to all those who replied. Now I am off to reading more about boot, and friends (though I am not sure if things are well at this point!). -Amarendra On Sat, Mar 26, 2011 at 7:01 PM, Kenneth R Westerback kwesterb...@rogers.com wrote: On Sat, Mar 26, 2011 at 05:26:06PM +0530, Amarendra Godbole wrote: Hi, I have run into a deadend trying to understand, and troubleshoot this problem. Hence, I would like some pointers. Following is what I did to get my OpenBSD system running, and then subsequently messing it up (in sequence): (1) Installed OpenBSD/i386 on my Thinkpad X201, and built -current. Did reserve ~140G for Windows, and then installed OpenBSD as described ? ? ? ? ? ? ? OpenBSD will reliably boot only if located 128GB. A ? ? ? ? ? ? ? recent change has made this explicit until a more reliable ? ? ? ? ? ? ? way of booting from 128GB can be found. in FAQ. Things were fine for a couple of months. (2) Installed Windows XP ghost image to the first partition. Sadly, ntldr was not installed so machine still booted directly into OpenBSD (3) Installed grub. Here is what /grub/menu.lst looks like: default 0 timeout 5 title Windows XP root (hd0,0) chainloader +1 title OpenBSD root (hd0,1) chainloader +1 (4) grub started fine, and Windows XP boots fine, but when I try to boot OpenBSD, I get something like this: Loading... probing: additional details disk: fd0 hd0+* OpenBSD/i386 BOOT 2.13 open(hd0a:/etc/boot.conf): Invalid argument boot booting hd0a:/bsd: open hd0a:/bsd: Invalid argument ?failed(22). will try ... And OpenBSD never boots. I don't recall changing anything else. From what I know (very little), biosboot was able to load the 2nd stage bootloader, but it now failed loading the kernel image. I can boot successfully into OpenBSD using a 4.8 boot CD though. I tried running installboot again (mindlessly!), and get this error: -- OpenBSD_49$ sudo /usr/mdec/installboot -n -v /boot /usr/mdec/biosboot sd0 Password: boot: /boot proto: /usr/mdec/biosboot device: /dev/rsd0c /boot is 3 blocks x 16384 bytes fs block shift 2; part offset 293603940; inode block 32, offset 10792 master boot record (MBR) at sector 0 ? ? ? ? partition 0: type 0x07 offset 63 size 293603877 ? ? ? ? partition 1: type 0xA6 offset 293603940 size 377487360 installboot: invalid location: all of /boot must be sector 268435455. And here is the error now being generated. If you have a BIOS/Hardware combo that can actually boot from 128GB, you can recompile installboot and friends after changing the value of BIOSBOOT_MAXSEC in sys/sys/disklabel.h. If you have any knowledge on how to reliably detect that the BIOS/Hardware will correctly support EDD access beyond 128GB, we are very interested. Ken -- disklabel reads: -- OpenBSD_49$ disklabel sd0 # /dev/rsd0c: type: SCSI disk: SCSI disk label: ST9320423AS duid: 93cf9b951f02f209
Re: Messed up OpenBSD boot after dualbooting via grub - cannot boot without OpenBSD boot CD.
Odd, I didn't know this. On the Apple PPC machines, OpenFirmware was limited to 128G for the BW G3. Later, the limit was extended. You're right, the limitation is stupid. --- On Sat, 3/26/11, Kenneth R Westerback kwesterb...@rogers.com wrote: From: Kenneth R Westerback kwesterb...@rogers.com Subject: Re: Messed up OpenBSD boot after dualbooting via grub - cannot boot without OpenBSD boot CD. To: Amarendra Godbole amarendra.godb...@gmail.com Cc: misc misc@openbsd.org Date: Saturday, March 26, 2011, 8:12 PM On Sat, Mar 26, 2011 at 11:28:32PM +0530, Amarendra Godbole wrote: On Sat, Mar 26, 2011 at 7:01 PM, Kenneth R Westerback kwesterb...@rogers.com wrote: On Sat, Mar 26, 2011 at 05:26:06PM +0530, Amarendra Godbole wrote: Hi, I have run into a deadend trying to understand, and troubleshoot this problem. Hence, I would like some pointers. Following is what I did to get my OpenBSD system running, and then subsequently messing it up (in sequence): (1) Installed OpenBSD/i386 on my Thinkpad X201, and built -current. Did reserve ~140G for Windows, and then installed OpenBSD as described OpenBSD will reliably boot only if located 128GB. A recent change has made this explicit until a more reliable way of booting from 128GB can be found. in FAQ. Things were fine for a couple of months. [...] (4) grub started fine, and Windows XP boots fine, but when I try to boot OpenBSD, I get something like this: Loading... probing: additional details disk: fd0 hd0+* OpenBSD/i386 BOOT 2.13 open(hd0a:/etc/boot.conf): Invalid argument boot booting hd0a:/bsd: open hd0a:/bsd: Invalid argument failed(22). will try ... And OpenBSD never boots. I don't recall changing anything else. From what I know (very little), biosboot was able to load the 2nd stage bootloader, but it now failed loading the kernel image. I can boot successfully into OpenBSD using a 4.8 boot CD though. I tried running installboot again (mindlessly!), and get this error: -- OpenBSD_49$ sudo /usr/mdec/installboot -n -v /boot /usr/mdec/biosboot sd0 Password: boot: /boot proto: /usr/mdec/biosboot device: /dev/rsd0c /boot is 3 blocks x 16384 bytes fs block shift 2; part offset 293603940; inode block 32, offset 10792 master boot record (MBR) at sector 0 partition 0: type 0x07 offset 63 size 293603877 partition 1: type 0xA6 offset 293603940 size 377487360 installboot: invalid location: all of /boot must be sector 268435455. And here is the error now being generated. If you have a BIOS/Hardware combo that can actually boot from 128GB, you can recompile installboot and friends after changing the value of BIOSBOOT_MAXSEC in sys/sys/disklabel.h. Okay, so I changed BOOTBIOS_MAXSEC and got installboot to work fine. Nothing seems to have changed though, as I still run into the booting hd0a:/bsd: open hd0a:/bsd: Invalid argument failed(22). will try... error message at boot. You need to compile 'and friends', in particular a new /boot. And install it. This is done by cd /usr/src/sys/arch/[1386|amd64]/stand make clean make obj make make install /usr/mdec/installboot -v /boot /usr/mdec/biosboot all as root of course. What surprises me is OpenBSD booted fine *before* I had Windows XP, and the ~143G partition was still present. Possibly something else is broken... Nope. We introduced a hard limit of 128GB as the workable lowest common denominator while we research a reliable way to determine when it is safe to go beyond. On one of my recent machines, just to pick an example, the BIOS simply returns all zero's for all I/O attempted past 128GB. We do like to impose draconian new restrictions and debug code early in a release cycle. :-) The lack of a reliable way to safely go beyond 128GB, even with recent BIOSen is sad and no doubt the reason Windows wants the first 100MB or so for its boot, OpenSUSE 11.4 blew up when installed 128GB on a just purchased motherboard, etc. The second target for anyone with a time machine should be the morons who decided BIOS would be enough for anyone. makeactive in menu.lst for grub did not help either (as I had guessed). -Amarendra [...] All grub can do (to my knowledge) is grab and run the OpenBSD /boot program. And if it doesn't work ... Ken
Re: Sniffer detector for OpenBSD
Try http://openports.se Use sniff and sniffer as the search queries. No hay nadie acerca de usted que esta usando OpenBSD. Disculpa mi pobre Castiliano. Talvez son gente en Mexico o Colombia. Ja tente, and use the search above. --- On Mon, 1/24/11, Orestes Leal R. l...@cubacatering.avianet.cu wrote: From: Orestes Leal R. l...@cubacatering.avianet.cu Subject: Sniffer detector for OpenBSD To: misc@openbsd.org misc@openbsd.org Date: Monday, January 24, 2011, 5:47 PM I've searching an sniffer detector for a LAN in OpenBSD unsucessfully, but found Sniffdet (outdated) and doesn't compile on OpenBSD4.8 and in all packages I dont know if there is one, any suggestions about this? I need to detect sniffers on my network possibly from Linux or or Windows Machines.
Re: Sniffer detector for OpenBSD
I realize after I sent the note that my Spanish was completely screwed. My apologies. Here. Is there anyone close to you that uses openbsd or anyone you know in a neighboring country? I referenced Mexico and Colombia because help from native speakers may be more efficient. --- On Mon, 1/24/11, Super Biscuit super_bisq...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Super Biscuit super_bisq...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: Sniffer detector for OpenBSD To: Orestes Leal R. l...@cubacatering.avianet.cu Cc: misc@openbsd.org misc@openbsd.org Date: Monday, January 24, 2011, 5:22 PM Try http://openports.se Use sniff and sniffer as the search queries. No hay nadie acerca de usted que esta usando OpenBSD. Disculpa mi pobre Castiliano. Talvez son gente en Mexico o Colombia. Ja tente, and use the search above. --- On Mon, 1/24/11, Orestes Leal R. l...@cubacatering.avianet.cu wrote: From: Orestes Leal R. l...@cubacatering.avianet.cu Subject: Sniffer detector for OpenBSD To: misc@openbsd.org misc@openbsd.org Date: Monday, January 24, 2011, 5:47 PM I've searching an sniffer detector for a LAN in OpenBSD unsucessfully, but found Sniffdet (outdated) and doesn't compile on OpenBSD4.8 and in all packages I dont know if there is one, any suggestions about this? I need to detect sniffers on my network possibly from Linux or or Windows Machines.
Re: FBI And OpenBSD...
http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.os.openbsd.tech/22557 The shit shall hit the fan. --- On Wed, 12/15/10, Randy Wrench shakap...@gmail.com wrote: From: Randy Wrench shakap...@gmail.com Subject: FBI And OpenBSD... To: misc@openbsd.org Date: Wednesday, December 15, 2010, 10:17 PM http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_itempx=ODkxMw Government organizations, whether they be from the United States, the European Union, or anywhere else for that matter, contributing to open-source projects is not new. Heck, Security Enhanced Linux (SELinux) in the mainline kernel can largely be attributed to the United State's National Security Agency (NSA). More organizations contributing to open-source isn't bad -- government or not -- when it's mutually beneficial work with good intentions. However, there are new allegations being made today about OpenBSD's networking stack, in particular it's IPsec code. The FBI allegedly paid OpenBSD developers to insert back-doors into the code-base... The above url carried an article which is disturbing to say the least... Anyone know more about this???
Re: An OpenBSD smartphone
You're looking at this from a programmer's perspective and not from a business one. let's look at the basic Unix-like/descended systems: All were developed because each founder- or founders- saw a niche, necessity, or challenge. Nokia, Google, and Apple are business entities whose purpose is to create revenue by selling products or services. You're going to wait until 15,000 or more people demand/ask for pf on a smart phone? Neither the mainframe nor the desktop nor the cell phone were created because the public wanted them. Look at advertising and how it works. 1) Create a need for a product by using two or more of the appeals. Culture, society, ethnicity, family, etc. 2) PR is important. If you're a programmer and you want the product out: 1) I'm not sure how ARM is but I do know that the company designs chips. 2) You'll have to build the system and take gtk and qt sources to build on it. What won't sell to the public is the conversations on the mailing lists or between programmers. What will sell are key points such as: 1) It is two to four times faster than other smartphones and uses half of the memory. People like it when extra shit runs smooth on their tablets and phones. 2) It can be used as a router for other devices and still work as a phone. What? I can make a call, browse the web, and still hook up my netbook? 3) The system is stable. Your personal information remains as such. 4) And for the hackers... You can do what you want with it. The programmers are for support, development, and design. Yes, I am a business major. I have experience in selling futures. I am certified in management. You can see this as a business opportunity and a challenge or you can continue as before. Those of you who do have a working understanding of the basic business model will have no trouble following this post.
Re: FreeBSD isn't Free
Let's add to the paranoia. http://go.microsoft.com/?linkid=9746317 --- On Fri, 10/8/10, Chris Bennett ch...@bennettconstruction.biz wrote: From: Chris Bennett ch...@bennettconstruction.biz Subject: Re: FreeBSD isn't Free To: Scott McEachern sc...@blackstaff.ca Cc: OpenBSD Mailing List misc@openbsd.org Date: Friday, October 8, 2010, 10:47 AM On Wed, Oct 06, 2010 at 04:45:28PM -0400, Scott McEachern wrote: On 10/06/10 16:01, Chris Cappuccio wrote: You are aware that US customs is regularly seizing laptop hard drives of people who enter the US, copying them, and returning them at a future date? This was challenged in court and naturally the government won their case. This is such a problem that some companies are mailing hard drives, instead of having people transport them on planes. Not that customs would stop at copying a mailed hard disk, but the chance that they bother to even look at a package is slim. Thank-you, Chris. No, I was not aware of that, but I am not the least bit surprised. I have not travelled to the US since '98. Post-9/11 and the PATRIOT act, I have no intention of returning to the US (I am a Canadian citizen) due to similar stories, but I didn't know about that fun fact. Everything since then hasn't smelled right to me. Believe it or not, I don't personally know anyone that has entered the US post-9/11. When I think about it, everyone I know has been on international flights that did not involve entering the US at all. Thanks again for the information. I've had a long suspicion that if I got to the border, I'd say No to something and would be denied entry, so I haven't even tried. I miss Hawaii, but apparently it doesn't miss me. ;) I regularly travel between the US and Guatemala. Since i'm poor, I travel by bus. (Note: traveling by executive class on buses south of the US is better than first class on an airline!) At the Laredo border crossing, beyond the usual drug dogs and luggage x-rays, they now have a giant boom truck that x-rays the entire bus once everyone is off it! I am very embarrassed and ashamed that my country is wasting so much money on silly things. The cost of those x-ray trucks has to be very high. Some of the other border crossings are better, but Laredo can take a very long time. Whenever I can, I prefer to walk across the bridge. Much quicker and less hassle. Frankly, it is why I am moving away from US. I like freedom over tyranny. Chris Bennett
Re: FreeBSD isn't Free
Did they get the licensing, approval, or letter? --- On Wed, 10/6/10, Theo de Raadt dera...@cvs.openbsd.org wrote: From: Theo de Raadt dera...@cvs.openbsd.org Subject: FreeBSD isn't Free To: misc@openbsd.org Date: Wednesday, October 6, 2010, 5:22 AM Just for fun. * 4.3. Licensee shall not export, either directly or indirectly, any of this * software or system incorporating such software without first obtaining any * required license or other approval from the U. S. Department of Commerce or * any other agency or department of the United States Government. In the * event Licensee exports any such software from the United States or * re-exports any such software from a foreign destination, Licensee shall * ensure that the distribution and export/re-export of the software is in * compliance with all laws, regulations, orders, or other restrictions of the * U.S. Export Administration Regulations. Licensee agrees that neither it nor * any of its subsidiaries will export/re-export any technical data, process, * software, or service, directly or indirectly, to any country for which the * United States government or any agency thereof requires an export license, * other governmental approval, or letter of assurance, without first obtaining * such license, approval or letter. http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/src/sys/contrib/dev/acpica/hardware/hws leep.c?rev=1.2
Re: OpenBSD on Seagte Dockstar?
misc@openbsd.org --- On Mon, 9/6/10, Martin Schrvder mar...@oneiros.de wrote: From: Martin Schrvder mar...@oneiros.de Subject: OpenBSD on Seagte Dockstar? To: OpenBSD general usage list misc@openbsd.org Date: Monday, September 6, 2010, 6:28 PM Hi, is anybody working on a port of OpenBSD to the Seagate Dockstar (Sheeva-ARM with 2GLan, 2Sata, 1USB, 128MB RAM)? It runs Linux and FreeBSD and currently sells for 25... Best Martin It's an Xscale processor. My current experience is that you have to build the kernel and system yourself.
pocketpc gcc compiler
Noise: I found one.
porting to a different machine.
I'm apologizing for any noise I may have created on other mailing lists. I am trying- with help from members of the OpenBSD community- to get it working on an HTC Apache. Instead of having to ask everytime a build breaks for cross-tools or cross-distrib, I'd rather be able to use documentation. Again, my apologies. I understand that OpenBSD is a developer oriented OS; and, I am not a developer. However, I'd like to be able to try making it work. If anyone can point me to where any helpful documentation exists, I would be grateful. Apologies for the noise.
Re: Help contacting Richard Stallman
--- On Wed, 5/26/10, Julian Acosta j.acost...@gmail.com wrote: From: Julian Acosta j.acost...@gmail.com Subject: Help contacting Richard Stallman To: misc@openbsd.org Date: Wednesday, May 26, 2010, 6:18 AM Hello! I'm from the Postgraduate Departmen of the ITCC University from Mexico, Really we need to contact with Richard Stallman, just for give us his opinion and answer us some questions about free software, How can I contact him? What's his real email? This help affects up to 19 universities from Mexico, Well, I hope you can help me, Really thanks, Best Regards, Ing. Julian Acosta Instituto Tecnologico de Cd. Cuauhtimoc Departamento de Posgrado Wrong mailing list.
Re: No Video/X server issue
--- On Tue, 5/25/10, Norm Legare normleg...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Norm Legare normleg...@yahoo.com Subject: No Video/X server issue To: misc@openbsd.org Date: Tuesday, May 25, 2010, 6:21 PM I have looked thru and searched thru the archives for some help with this issue (and google as well). I have installed the stock 4.6 distribution on an hp quad-core with interated nVidia GeForce 9100/Cuda graphics with all the defaults except I have enabled X. I have checked the machdep.allowaperture and it is set to 2. And uname -a = openBSD hpq4.my.domain 4.6 Generic.MP#81 amd64. It does report that the nVidia chipset is unknown in the output of the booting. I have tried X -configure and set it to my monitor's settings and to various presets. When I do startx it reports that Fatal server error: no screens found. I have tried using the nVidia generic driver in the configure. In the X configure I have also tried using the vga driver, but that results in Failed to load module vga (module does not exist, 0) No drivers available. I loaded 2 linux live CDs (backtrack and centos 5) and they start up a graphical environment by default. I would just like to use openBSD with a standard graphical environment. The ethernet connection comes up fine and adding drivers thru this is an option. Run Xorg -configure -retro to start.
Re: OpenBSD Culture? - dual boot info
This reply is late. my apologies beforehand. He shouldn't boot from an extended partition. Windows can go on a primary. He can make the system rescue disks. OpenBSD could be next. Linux would be last. If he needs swap then it would be: windows, install linux with swap, add dphys swapfile and edit out the swap from /etc/fstab, use openbsd to utilize the space and eliminate swap, and then edit grub to boot all three. Again, my apologies for veering off of the subject of OpenBSD. --- On Sun, 4/18/10, Kim 4secure...@neomailbox.net wrote: From: Kim 4secure...@neomailbox.net Subject: Re: OpenBSD Culture? - dual boot info To: misc@openbsd.org Date: Sunday, April 18, 2010, 7:24 AM @ Zachary fwiw - I have Windows XP, Linux, and OpenBSD running on one machine using two drives, but it should be possible with one. I would recommend installing Windows first, or if already installed, shrink the partition using Ranish partition manager or Parted Magic. Create two new primary partitions and an extended partition. Install OpenBSD on primary partition 2, GRUB on a small primary partition 3, and Linux on the extended partition at the end of the disk. Use the chainloader method of booting with GRUB, where the GRUB partition is marked active, and it hands off the boot to the individual OS bootloaders on the other partitions. See here for more: http://www.justlinux.com/forum/showthread.php?threadid=143973
Xorg.conf with OpenBSD 4.6 macppc does not work with alternate configuration
$uname -a OpenBSD moo.my.domain 4.6 GENERIC#43 macppc I have followed the howto section in the readme file and remain with an 8bit resolution at 800x600. If there is anything wrong with my configuration? X did not start with new_xorg.conf.1.text or new_xorg.conf.2.txt. The only working xorg.conf which had good resolution was from a previous debian install done with an ubuntu live disk. I do realize that there is a difference between the OSes; but, the xorg.conf and resolutions should be the same for both. ation) uhidev0 at uhub0 port 1 configuration 1 interface 0 CHESEN USB Keyboard rev 1.10/1.10 addr 2 uhidev0: iclass 3/1 ukbd0 at uhidev0: 8 modifier keys, 6 key codes, country code 33 wskbd0 at ukbd0 mux 1 wskbd0: connecting to wsdisplay0 uhidev1 at uhub0 port 1 configuration 1 interface 1 CHESEN USB Keyboard rev 1.10/1.10 addr 2 uhidev1: iclass 3/0, 3 report ids uhid0 at uhidev1 reportid 2: input=1, output=0, feature=0 uhid1 at uhidev1 reportid 3: input=3, output=0, feature=0 uhidev2 at uhub0 port 2 configuration 1 interface 0 Logitech USB Optical Mouse rev 2.00/43.01 addr 3 uhidev2: iclass 3/1 ums0 at uhidev2: 3 buttons, Z dir wsmouse0 at ums0 mux 0 softraid0 at root bootpath: /pci/@d/pci-...@1/at...@0/d...@0:/bsd root on wd0a swap on wd0b dump on wd0b WARNING: / was not properly unmounted wd0a: aborted command, interface CRC error reading fsbn 414720 of 414720-414751 (wd0 bn 417744; cn 414 tn 6 sn 54), retrying wd0: soft error (corrected) wd0: transfer error, downgrading to Ultra-DMA mode 1 wd0(pciide0:0:0): using PIO mode 4, Ultra-DMA mode 1 wd0a: aborted command, interface CRC error reading fsbn 1658688 of 1658688-1658719 (wd0 bn 1661712; cn 1648 tn 8 sn 24), retrying wd0: soft error (corrected) wd0g: aborted command, interface CRC error reading fsbn 19488896 of 19488896-19488927 (wd0 bn 87914960; cn 87217 tn 3 sn 35), retrying wd0: soft error (corrected) wd0g: aborted command, interface CRC error reading fsbn 34001856 of 34001856-34001887 (wd0 bn 102427920; cn 101615 tn 0 sn 0), retrying wd0: soft error (corrected) wd0g: aborted command, interface CRC error reading fsbn 41465664 of 41465664-41465695 (wd0 bn 109891728; cn 109019 tn 9 sn 9), retrying wd0: soft error (corrected) wd0: transfer error, downgrading to Ultra-DMA mode 0 wd0(pciide0:0:0): using PIO mode 4, Ultra-DMA mode 0 wd0g: aborted command, interface CRC error reading fsbn 43124288 of 43124288-43124319 (wd0 bn 111550352; cn 110665 tn 0 sn 32), retrying wd0: soft error (corrected) wd0f: aborted command, interface CRC error reading fsbn 26952704 of 26952704-26952735 (wd0 bn 49240592; cn 48849 tn 12 sn 44), retrying wd0f: aborted command, interface CRC error reading fsbn 26952704 of 26952704-26952735 (wd0 bn 49240592; cn 48849 tn 12 sn 44), retrying wd0f: aborted command, interface CRC error reading fsbn 26952704 of 26952704-26952735 (wd0 bn 49240592; cn 48849 tn 12 sn 44), retrying wd0: transfer error, downgrading to PIO mode 4 wd0(pciide0:0:0): using PIO mode 4 wd0f: aborted command, interface CRC error reading fsbn 26952704 of 26952704-26952735 (wd0 bn 49240592; cn 48849 tn 12 sn 44), retrying wd0: soft error (corrected) bm0: device timeout bm0: device timeout bm0: device timeout bm0: device timeout bm0: device timeout bm0: device timeout bm0: device timeout bm0: device timeout bm0: device timeout bm0: device timeout bm0: device timeout bm0: device timeout bm0: device timeout bm0: device timeout bm0: device timeout bm0: device timeout bm0: device timeout bm0: device timeout bm0: device timeout bm0: device timeout bm0: device timeout bm0: device timeout bm0: device timeout bm0: device timeout bm0: device timeout bm0: device timeout bm0: device timeout bm0: device timeout bm0: device timeout bm0: device timeout bm0: device timeout bm0: device timeout bm0: device timeout bm0: device timeout bm0: device timeout bm0: device timeout bm0: device timeout bm0: device timeout bm0: device timeout bm0: device timeout bm0: device timeout bm0: device timeout bm0: device timeout bm0: device timeout bm0: device timeout bm0: device timeout bm0: device timeout bm0: device timeout bm0: device timeout bm0: device timeout bm0: device timeout bm0: device timeout bm0: device timeout bm0: device timeout bm0: device timeout bm0: device timeout bm0: device timeout bm0: device timeout bm0: device timeout bm0: device timeout bm0: device timeout bm0: device timeout bm0: device timeout bm0: device timeout bm0: device timeout bm0: device timeout bm0: device timeout bm0: device timeout bm0: device timeout bm0: device timeout bm0: device timeout bm0: device timeout syncing disks... done rebooting [ using 437516 bytes of bsd ELF symbol table ] console out [ATY,Rage128y]console in [keyboard] USB and ADB found, using ADB : memaddr 8400 size 400, : consaddr 8400, : ioaddr 8092, size 2: memtag 8000, iotag 8000: width 640 linebytes 640 height 480 depth 8 Copyright (c) 1982, 1986, 1989, 1991, 1993 The Regents of the University of
Re: Xorg.conf with OpenBSD 4.6 macppc does not work with alternate configuration
Thank you for replying. I'll try his suggestions and will report if it works. My question now is: How much of xorg.conf can I import from the debian xorg.conf? Apologies beforehand.- if the question offend anyone. --- On Wed, 4/14/10, Bryan Irvine sparcta...@gmail.com wrote: From: Bryan Irvine sparcta...@gmail.com Subject: Re: Xorg.conf with OpenBSD 4.6 macppc does not work with alternate configuration To: Super Biscuit super_bisq...@yahoo.com Cc: misc@openbsd.org Date: Wednesday, April 14, 2010, 9:23 PM On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 2:13 PM, Super Biscuit super_bisq...@yahoo.com wrote: $uname -a OpenBSD moo.my.domain 4.6 GENERIC#43 macppc I have followed the howto section in the readme file and remain with an 8bit resolution at 800x600. If there is anything wrong with my configuration? X did not start with new_xorg.conf.1.text or new_xorg.conf.2.txt. The only working xorg.conf which had good resolution was from a previous debian install done with an ubuntu live disk. I do realize that there is a difference between the OSes; but, the xorg.conf and resolutions should be the same for both. I went through this a few years and got it going with a little help from Nick. http://marc.info/?l=openbsd-miscm=116492822327679w=2 -B
Re: Xorg.conf with OpenBSD 4.6 macppc does not work with alternate configuration
My apologies beforehand for using this message again. I had set the Vert and Horiz values according to those here: http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=16t=20481start=60 The monitor I have is the same, I did try out the recommendation and the results were the same. I also notice that the card is listed as a rage re/sg but the /usr README lists it pro pf. I have also loaded the ati driver during boot using -c DKM enable ati. More information: 16 diagonal for visible screen, powermac blue and white model. If there is anything else that I am missing, let me know. --- On Wed, 4/14/10, Bryan Irvine sparcta...@gmail.com wrote: From: Bryan Irvine sparcta...@gmail.com Subject: Re: Xorg.conf with OpenBSD 4.6 macppc does not work with alternate configuration To: Super Biscuit super_bisq...@yahoo.com Cc: misc@openbsd.org Date: Wednesday, April 14, 2010, 9:23 PM On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 2:13 PM, Super Biscuit super_bisq...@yahoo.com wrote: $uname -a OpenBSD moo.my.domain 4.6 GENERIC#43 macppc I have followed the howto section in the readme file and remain with an 8bit resolution at 800x600. If there is anything wrong with my configuration? X did not start with new_xorg.conf.1.text or new_xorg.conf.2.txt. The only working xorg.conf which had good resolution was from a previous debian install done with an ubuntu live disk. I do realize that there is a difference between the OSes; but, the xorg.conf and resolutions should be the same for both. I went through this a few years and got it going with a little help from Nick. http://marc.info/?l=openbsd-miscm=116492822327679w=2 -B
Re: Xorg.conf with OpenBSD 4.6 macppc does not work with alternate configuration
I'm adding the Xorg.0 logs. --- On Thu, 4/15/10, Super Biscuit super_bisq...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Super Biscuit super_bisq...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: Xorg.conf with OpenBSD 4.6 macppc does not work with alternate configuration To: Bryan Irvine sparcta...@gmail.com Cc: misc@openbsd.org Date: Thursday, April 15, 2010, 1:56 AM My apologies beforehand for using this message again. I had set the Vert and Horiz values according to those here: http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=16t=20481start=60 The monitor I have is the same, I did try out the recommendation and the results were the same. I also notice that the card is listed as a rage re/sg but the /usr README lists it pro pf. I have also loaded the ati driver during boot using -c DKM enable ati. More information: 16 diagonal for visible screen, powermac blue and white model. If there is anything else that I am missing, let me know. --- On Wed, 4/14/10, Bryan Irvine sparcta...@gmail.com wrote: From: Bryan Irvine sparcta...@gmail.com Subject: Re: Xorg.conf with OpenBSD 4.6 macppc does not work with alternate configuration To: Super Biscuit super_bisq...@yahoo.com Cc: misc@openbsd.org Date: Wednesday, April 14, 2010, 9:23 PM On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 2:13 PM, Super Biscuit super_bisq...@yahoo.com wrote: $uname -a OpenBSD moo.my.domain 4.6 GENERIC#43 macppc I have followed the howto section in the readme file and remain with an 8bit resolution at 800x600. If there is anything wrong with my configuration? X did not start with new_xorg.conf.1.text or new_xorg.conf.2.txt. The only working xorg.conf which had good resolution was from a previous debian install done with an ubuntu live disk. I do realize that there is a difference between the OSes; but, the xorg.conf and resolutions should be the same for both. I went through this a few years and got it going with a little help from Nick. http://marc.info/?l=openbsd-miscm=116492822327679w=2 -B (--) Using wscons driver X.Org X Server 1.5.3 Release Date: 5 November 2008 X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0 Build Operating System: OpenBSD 4.6 macppc Current Operating System: OpenBSD moo.my.domain 4.6 GENERIC#43 macppc Build Date: 01 July 2009 05:44:48PM Before reporting problems, check http://wiki.x.org to make sure that you have the latest version. Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting, (++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational, (WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown. (==) Log file: /var/log/Xorg.0.log, Time: Wed Apr 14 18:55:20 2010 (==) Using config file: /etc/X11/xorg.conf Parse error on line 91 of section Screen in file /etc/X11/xorg.conf Unexpected EOF. Missing EndSection keyword? (--) Using wscons driver X.Org X Server 1.5.3 Release Date: 5 November 2008 X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0 Build Operating System: OpenBSD 4.6 macppc Current Operating System: OpenBSD moo.my.domain 4.6 GENERIC#43 macppc Build Date: 01 July 2009 05:44:48PM Before reporting problems, check http://wiki.x.org to make sure that you have the latest version. Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting, (++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational, (WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown. (==) Log file: /var/log/Xorg.0.log, Time: Wed Apr 14 20:35:24 2010 (==) Using config file: /etc/X11/xorg.conf (==) ServerLayout wsfb (**) |--Screen Screen0 (0) (**) | |--Monitor Monitor (**) | |--Device Wsdisplay0 (**) |--Input Device Mouse0 (**) |--Input Device Keyboard0 (==) Not automatically adding devices (==) Not automatically enabling devices (==) Including the default font path /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/TTF/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/OTF,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/. (**) FontPath set to: /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/, /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/TTF/, /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/OTF/, /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/, /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/, /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/, /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/TTF/, /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/OTF, /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/, /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/, /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/ (==) ModulePath set to /usr/X11R6/lib/modules (II) Loader magic: 0x19b199c (II) Module ABI versions: X.Org ANSI C Emulation: 0.4 X.Org Video Driver: 4.1 X.Org XInput driver : 2.1 X.Org Server Extension : 1.1 X.Org Font Renderer : 0.6 (II) Loader running on openbsd (--) PCI:*(0...@0:16:0) ATI Rage 128 rev 0, Mem @ 0x01a1ec68/0, 0x01a1ec68/0, I/O @ 0x01a1ec68/0, BIOS @ 0x/27389032 (II) System resource ranges: [0] -1 0 0x019fde80 - 0x (0x10) MX[B]E(B) [1] -1 0 0x019fde80 - 0x (0xf) MX[B] [2] -1 0 0x019fde80
Re: Question on read write from Linux to OpenBSD
Thanks. I'll just do a hard reinstall of openbsd. --- On Thu, 4/8/10, Edwin Eyan Moragas haa...@gmail.com wrote: From: Edwin Eyan Moragas haa...@gmail.com Subject: Re: Question on read write from Linux to OpenBSD To: Super Biscuit super_bisq...@yahoo.com Cc: misc@openbsd.org Date: Thursday, April 8, 2010, 2:38 AM On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 7:34 AM, Super Biscuit super_bisq...@yahoo.com wrote: Using mount -t ufs -o ufstype=44bsd -o ro /mount/point /mount/directory does not allow reading of /home /var /tmp and /root. The option of -o rw doesn't work from Linux to any BSD. (At least for me because I do not know the proper commands.) IIRC, linux won't mount 44bsd filesystems RW. Now, I am assuming that it can be a security risk that I am willing to take. The architecture I am using is macppc but I also have an i386 with OpenBSD on it- along with FreeBSD, and Debian. How do I read, write and access the 44bsd files from ext3? you're actually asking how to mount 44bsad filesystem RW. ext3 has nothing to do with it. linux has very limited 44bsd fs support.
Question on read write from Linux to OpenBSD
Using mount -t ufs -o ufstype=44bsd -o ro /mount/point /mount/directory does not allow reading of /home /var /tmp and /root. The option of -o rw doesn't work from Linux to any BSD. (At least for me because I do not know the proper commands.) Now, I am assuming that it can be a security risk that I am willing to take. The architecture I am using is macppc but I also have an i386 with OpenBSD on it- along with FreeBSD, and Debian. How do I read, write and access the 44bsd files from ext3?
