Re: Vulnerability Note VU#800113 - Multiple DNS implementations vulnerable to cache poisoning
Why haven't the developers posted a formal annoncement clearifing if the distributed BIND is vulnerable? If so, where the hell is the patch? -Nix Fan.
Re: Proliferation of .serverauth.??? files.
Edd Barrett wrote: I don't see a patch attached... The line numbers were related to the startx script in 4.3... I guess that it's autogenerated? Go to line 207 in revision 1.7 of xenocara/app/xinit/startx.cpp: Are you ready yet? Replace: xserverauthfile=$HOME/.serverauth.$$ With: xserverauthfile=$XAUTHORITY Wow, now that was easy.. :) -Nix Fan.
Proliferation of .serverauth.??? files.
Greets, In a number of Linux distributions the bug has been fixed, but it remains in OpenBSD... Why? If you start Xorg using the startx script, and shutdown suddenly, those little buggers multiply. So, how about we make that little block of code on line 107 do something useful? Hop on over to line 141 and replace failure with success: xserverauthfile=$XAUTHORITY (Be a peach, get this into 4.4...) -Nix
Re: enable uvideo(4)
http://linux-uvc.berlios.de/#footnote-4
{iSight webcams require a proprietary firmware that can't be redistributed.
Tools to extract the firmware from the MacOS X driver and load it into the
device are available at http://bersace03.free.fr/ift/.}
-Nix Fan.
Re: captivating window manager
fluxbux cwm. Seriously, cwm can't even compete with fluxy... cwm is for people for people who seem to forget their using X. Get the drift? :D
Re: Are there any Open Source / Free Software vt220 / vt320 / vt400 terminal emulators out there?
Christian Weisgerber wrote: The best VT220 emulator is the underappreciated xterm(1). The s/underappreciated/under appreciated terminal know as xterm, would be more appreciated if they modernized it a little... Anyone who peddles a terminal emulator without pseudo transparency should be locked up indefinitely. :-) -Nix Fan.
Re: gnats
Pieter Verberne wrote: Sorry for being offtopic: What does -f mean? (I see those 'options' more often in mails). It's his signature, his name is frantisek, thus he signs his messages using the first letter of his name.. not unusual, but not very identifying.. I sign my messages too.. ;-) -Nix Fan.
Re: security fixes for packages
LEFIEUX Morgan wrote: i was looking at this page http://www.openbsd.org/pkg-stable.html and would like to know why there is no security fixes for packages after 4.1 release ? The developers don't care about your security. This topic has been done to death, developer incompetence was identified as the cause. Move on.. Movie time! :-) -Nix Fan.
Re: aucat(1) recording with AU/WAV support
Tim Wiess wrote: I was originally thinking in a different mindset. Yeah, The Unix philosophy... OpenBSD isn't Unix, but Theo is a douche. :-) -Nix Fan.
Re: Just for info and for dreaming :-) Vaio UX and OpenBSD
Mark Mathias wrote: Actually, I have seen one of those running OpenBSD, I'm just not sure how many of its extra features are actually supported. Seriously? Does anyone have a dmesg of this machine? *drools* :-) -Nix Fan.
Re: 4.2 wget package depend broken?
No it's not you arrogant mutt, it sounds to me, like you haven't installed xbase42.. wget needs gettext, guess where it is? ;) 4.3 has it in base.tgz, please keep informed... -Nix Fan.
Bad aperture size reported? (agp..)
Hello, Seeing how OpenBSD 4.3 is due out officially soon, I decided to try it out on one of my older AMD systems: I'm noting an unusual problem though, agp0 is showing an unusual large aperture size, I only have a 32M card, and 32M is selected in the BIOS. ~SNIP~ pchb0 at pci0 dev 0 function 0 VIA VT8377 PCI rev 0x00 agp0 at pchb0: v3, aperture at 0xfc00, size 0xe80 ppb0 at pci0 dev 1 function 0 VIA VT8235 AGP rev 0x00 pci1 at ppb0 bus 1 vga1 at pci1 dev 0 function 0 NVIDIA GeForce2 MX rev 0xb2 -SNIP~ I'm not positive, but does 0xe80 mean 232 MB aperture? Kinda crazy isn't it? More information is available if needed, my real concern is, Will it cause problems when I upgrade? I'm running Xorg on this box with OpenBSD 4.2 without problems. -Nix Fan.
Re: Upgrading 4.1-4.3
Damon McMahon wrote: I have read through upgrade43.html and just want to make sure that I can upgrade 4.1-4.2, skip the Upgrading packages step and then upgrade 4.2-4.3 without having to install xbase? http://openbsd.org/faq/upgrade43.html wrote: Note: Upgrades are only supported from one release to the release immediately following it. Do not skip releases. Does this not answer your question? Skipping the 4.2 release means you can't install the 4.3 one, assuming you chose to setup multiple labels and didn't throw everything in wd0a (/), you can backup various configuration files into your /home partition and then install 4.3 fresh. Just be sure to answer none when it asks you about your /home label, as you risk the installer newfs-ing it. :) -Nix Fan.
Re: Crash with acpi enabled
Steve Shockley wrote: No problem. Presumably acpidump will work on a kernel with acpi disabled? Yes, The command opens /dev/mem and dump the raw ACPI tables... -Nix Fan.
Re: install42.iso hangs....any ideas?
Matthew Szudzik wrote: I have successfully read and written several DVDs and CDs using OpenBSD, following the instructions at http://www.openbsd.org/faq/faq13.html That was not what I was talking about, I know how to burn CD/DVD's, obviously, I was asking of DVD-RAM drives/disks can be used just as if they're sd(4) devices, read/write calls, i.e: UFS on a disk, mounted read/write. -Nix Fan.
Re: install42.iso hangs....any ideas?
Hannah Schroeter wrote: (Please wrap your lines) I cannot, the Webmail provider formats it out.. I believe it's sending the email as MIME, it is out of my control - deal with it. Hannah Schroeter wrote: IIRC not, I have a DVD-RAM drive and it probes as cd(4), not as sd(4). Why is everyone ignoring me? I wasn't asking if the device could be attached as sd, I meant.. could DVD-RAM drives be used as if they're like an ordinary drive that attached to sd(4). Can you newfs any file system, or blindly read/write/seek on the device? i.e: dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/cd0c ??? I thought DVD-RAM were unique in that, unlike DVD-RW, you can write to the disk as if it's simply an optical hard drive... *Sigh* http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DVD-RAM DVD-RAM (DVDbRandom Access Memory). -Nix Fan.
Chatting with developers? Is it soo 1996?
I found an old email on the mailing lists, dating back to 1996, when Theo announced users could connect and chat with the developers on their ICB server. I'm wondering, when did it go private? Why can't users join and chat.. or idle.. and watch OpenBSD development as it takes place, are there any other places to go besides -cvs? http://monkey.org/openbsd/archive2/misc/199609/msg00014.html -Nix Fan.
Re: install42.iso hangs....any ideas?
Sorry for hijacking this thread, but it brings up an interesting question.. How well does OpenBSD support DVD-RAM drives? does the cd(4) driver support read/write operations? - i.e: Would it be possible to use it as a normal block device? Again, sorry for hijacking.. unfortunately, I'm not sure why your system is bailing out at that point, consider enabling verbose in UKC. (boot -c) ..And yet another off-topic question, What about Mount Rainier (packet writing) support for CD-RW drives? that would be so awesome! :D -Nix Fan.
Re: OOT: Read hardisk Mac OS on Openbsd
Well, There is /usr/ports/misc/hfsplus - but it's marked as being for PowerPC architectures only... HFS+ is used on Intel Macs now though IIRC. Search the ports tree before firing off an email next time, or use Google.. ;) http://openports.se/misc/hfsplus -Nix Fan.
Re: Problems reading audio cdrom on 4.2 sparc64
You can't mount an audio CD-ROM, it simply has an audio track, no data track. If you want to dump the contents into PCM audio, look in the ports.. install cdrtools and use the cdda2wav application. -Nix Fan.
Re: Firefox 2.0.0.12
I back ported Firefox 2.0.0.12 to OpenBSD 4.2+patches, I can't believe the OpenBSD team is letting people use the insecure 2.0.0.6 version, We believe in security my ass. OpenBSD 4.3 will have 2.0.0.12, unfortunately 2.0.0.13 is out, and that fixes yet another security problem... so, manual back porting is the only option, I don't know why they give the people using -CURRENT the secured ports, more people use -RELEASE or -STABLE, so they should be providing resources for OUR security, not the extremists living on -CURRENT.. compiling their entire system from scratch every other hour/day/week. (Who the hell could live like that? f**king insanity!). Anyway, if you want the 2.0.0.12 package, I'll send it either via email or some file sharing site, along with the nspr update. -Nix Fan.
Re: Firefox 2.0.0.12
Jacob Meuser wrote: or, quit using firefox. it's security record is rather lousy, wouldn't you agree? That's a stupid outlook on things... 2.0.0.6 was released in July, that's a hell of a long time between April, exploits in depencies are bound to show up in that time frame. OpenBSD developers are intentionally putting their users at risk by not providing security updates, because... no workstation can sanely be secure if the only decent web browser is several versions behind. As for other browsers, there are none... switching to the KDE thing would require.. KDE, or at least several of it's libraries, which is stupid if you're not using KDE or QT. If only text had expressive emoticons, because I'd be rolling my eyes right about now... -Nix Fan.
Re: Firefox 2.0.0.12
Nick Templeton wrote: Didn't you participate in this flamefest already: http://marc.info/?l=openbsd-miscm=119750317632017w=2 You already know the reasons for this. -Nick Why yes, it would seem I did previously participate in an almost identical discussion... the things you learn. :) Do me a favour, discontinue stating the obvious.. it's not an appealing trait. ;) -Nix Fan.
Re: Firefox 2.0.0.12
Devin Smith wrote: Why not use Dillo? Fast, light weight. If your site doesn't work in Dillo, why not make it work? http://www.openbsd.org renders in it. You're welcome to submit patches to the dillo team. Because it's the worlds must lamest browser, next to lynx of coarse. None of the sites I visit render properly in it, HTML valid, as for my site.. I don't have one, what kind of idiot uses browses their own site? I'd prefer somethings that's going to support at least 5 web sites. I remember you from Naken Chat, you were cooler back then... ;) -Nix Fan.
Re: Firefox 2.0.0.12
Stuart Henderson wrote: .. You do realise that with your abrasive posts, you're pissing off the very people you're suggesting do the work, right? Yes, I realise that, and I'm not trying to offend...intentionally.. *sigh*... I'll stop posting, the developers have already made it clear to us end-users... We'll provide you with a secure system, but.. hell, once you get it.. it won't be secure anymore, wait another 6 months, it'll be secure again. briefly. Frustration leads to insults and panic, Thus, here I am, expressing my humanity, I'm not a machine.. -Nix Fan.
Re: Can't boot Dell Inspiron 530
OpenBSD 4.3 is due out on May 1st, a lot of changes have happened in 5 months.. perhaps you should wait for the 4.3 release, or try a snapshot from your local mirror, unfortunately, those are -CURRENT.. which, will eventually be the 4.4-RELEASE. Reporting hardware incompatibilities for a code base several months old isn't very productive... 4.2 was released in November. ;) -Nix Fan.
Re: Verify authenticity of installation files on mirrors?
Philipp Winter wrote: Hi, I did not find a file on the OpenBSD mirrors which contains a digital signature for the 'MD5' files which are placed in the platform specific directories (e.g.: ftp://ftp.openbsd.org/pub/OpenBSD/4.2/i386/). Is there no way to verify the authenticity of the installation files? Thanks, Philipp Huh?, ftp://ftp.openbsd.org/pub/OpenBSD/4.2/i386/MD5 seems to contain all the proper MD5's... if your mirror matches the ones at the official site, that seems to prove they're genuine. The OpenBSD team takes security pretty seriously. ;) - digitally signing the MD5 file is a bit much though... don't ya think? =| If you're still paranoid, perhaps you request that release announcement emails should contain the official MD5's of the base files... perhaps Theo could send it for kicks.. lmao -Nix Fan.
Re: OpenBSD TV tuner
Jacob Meuser wrote: I still prefer bktrplay + tunerctl from http://jakemsr.trancell.org/bsdav-1.4.tar.gz for watching TV, but I know those programs, since they are mine. mainly, bktrplay has better full-screen support, and has fewer artifact issues than either fxtv or xawtv. bktrplay uses Xv, and probably less resources than fxtv and xawtv. if you're crafty, wrap bktrplay + tunerctl in a gui for your s.o. Very nice my friend, will your tools be in available as ports? or as a package? I'm always losing URLs... :) I'll be in your debt.. -Nix Fan.
Re: Bind 4.9.2
Michael Spratt wrote: ... I obtained the list of pornographic sites from urlblacklist.com The DNS server will then respond to users who query port sites with an A record that points to a local web server that will serve them a nono page and log their ip. . ...because we are a small ISP So much for net neutrality I believe what you're doing is wrong. After all, blocking what the Internet was designed for.. will seriously hinder potential sales. ;) -Nix Fan.
Re: PC Camera?
There is a USB standard for USB Cameras among other video devices... It's called USB Video Device Class. The specific is available to download... if anyone feels brave enough to write a driver for UVC class devices... ;) @Sunnz, Unsupported USB devices always attach to ugen, read the manual page then you'll realize how silly you are.. ;) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USB_video_device_class This seems to be a driver for: OpenSolaris: http://www.opensolaris.org/os/community/device_drivers/projects/usb/uvc/ Linux: http://linux-uvc.berlios.de/ Mac OSX.. Microsoft's Vista - Which seems to require all vendors implement the standard.. ...And Sony's Playstation 3. So who's working on OpenBSD's implementation? get busy!! :D :D :D -Nix Fan.
Re: OpenBSD support of EFI?
Fred Snurd wrote: In reading through the recent Intel Mac Mini thread, I'm confused by what appears to OpenBSD's support? OpenBSD now supports EFI? Or is EFI have some compatibility mode with the older BIOS standard? No. In the case of modern Intel Macs, they have something called Boot Camp that emulates the classic PC BIOS interrupts and services.. There is no EFI boot loader for OpenBSD. ;) -Nix Fan.
Re: BDB simple program compile problem
../usr/bin/ld: cannot find -l/usr/local/lib Consider that a test.. or an example of my drunken state, regardless of that.. It's obvious that you have no experience with the options of the compiler.. You failed the test. ;) Change it to -L/usr/local/lib Read manual pages: gcc(1) and ld(1) for starters. Buy something from or something: http://www.amazon.com/ -Nix Fan.
Re: BDB simple program compile problem
COMPILE OUTPUT- # cc t2.c Why, are you running this as root?.. /tmp//ccdm8869.o(.text+0x1c): In function `main': : undefined reference to `db_create' Isn't this message rather obvious? can you not read or something? /tmp//ccdm8869.o(.text+0x32): In function `main': : undefined reference to `db_strerror' collect2: ld returned 1 exit status You're not linking with the shared db library... $ gcc -I/usr/local/include/db4 -o t2 t2.cc -l/usr/local/lib -ldb Last time I checked, This mailing list isn't for people learning C.. Go buy yourself a book kid.. -Nix Fan.
Re: UFS2 status in 4.3?
Timothy Wilson wrote: Hello, I think Michael meant UFS, as in what FreeBSD uses. I too would like to know the status on this, as I have a FreeBSD machine that could become an OpenBSD machine :) Kind regards, They are the same thing, FFS is an acronym for Berkeley's Fast File System - which is a decedent of ATT UFS (Unix File System). I agree, the naming conventions between the BSD's are unique... but see the following and just accept the fact UFS2 or FFS2 are partially supported as Otto explained. http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-current/2003-April/001444.html http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unix_File_System -Nix Fan.
Re: dvorak key layout
Timothy Wilson wrote: Thanks Ryan, Maybe this is new in 4.3 or 4.2? I don't have this option in 4.1. I guess I should upgrade :) Timothy. The manual page claims otherwise, it's a lower case L just so you know... you need to run the command as root it seems. http://www.openbsd.org/cgi-bin/man.cgi?query=kbdmanpath=OpenBSD+4.1arch=i386format=html -Nix Fan.
Re: Trying to get usbnet working to gumstix
Sean Kennedy wrote: For what it's worth, I'm interested too in a tech@ tutorial on (How to add Unknown, or Semi-Known USB) devices. I have had success with adding commonly defined things (Keyboards Mice, and the occasional USB wireless/wired Network adapter) But for something that has little or no description, (and no blobs) and FreeBSD or NetBSD support (L*nux documentation too, but avoiding GPL) It would be nice to see if I could add in USB support. There really is no RT*M reference I could find at the best of times, to direct where to begin. -sean Dmitri Alenitchev wrote a few articles once upon a time, I keep them bookmarked.. not sure where he's at these days though. ;) http://allroot.blogspot.com/2006/10/hacking-usb-device-drivers-part-1.html http://allroot.blogspot.com/2006/10/hacking-usb-device-drivers-part-2.html -Nix Fan.
Re: gettimeofday() dramatical slowdown from 4.1-4.2
$ ./time 100 calls to gettimeofday() ... 4.503s $ uname -srp OpenBSD 4.2 AMD Athlon(TM) XP 2600+ (AuthenticAMD 686-class, 512KB L2 cache) $ Seems fine here, looks like the error is on your end.. ;) Have you tested on 4.3/snapshots.. perhaps enabling/disabling acpi.. etc? -Nix Fan.
Re: sftp: Umlauts and Spaces in filenames
I ran a few tests, and OpenBSD seems perfectly capable of using those extended characters have you tried using doubled quotes? sftp [EMAIL PROTECTED]:file with spaces and Umlauts.txt That should work.. but, spaces and extended characters are so unclean in the Unix world, it was never designed to use them. -Nix Fan.
Re: Sensors support on proliant DL380 G2
I did a search around and found something called SmartStart, Apparently it's a bootable configuration utility for your system that configures various settings in NVRAM. http://www.umpquanet.com/support/freebsd_setup.html --FreeBSD articble related to your system... ftp://ftp.compaq.com/pub/products/Servers/supportsoftware/ZIP/ --Search for smartstart. http://people.freebsd.org/~jcagle/ --Random FreeBSD management utilties.. (Perhaps can be ported?). I also noticed a Linux diff releated to ACPI... apparently ACPI it was forced or something. -Nix Fan.
Re: The Dilbert Problem...
I've been noticing a similar problem with Firefox on OpenBSD... Try going to http://www.blahsfkfefe.non-existant/ and then trying a known site like http://www.google.ca/ .. It just locks up.. If this is an issue with OpenBSD's resolver, why don't the developers fix it? -Nix Fan.
Re: changing bash prompt escape sequences
$ cat .bash_profile ... export PS1=\l [EMAIL PROTECTED] # $ Then log back in. this really is basic stuff.. ;) (Use ksh, it's much better then bash... ) -Nix Fan.
Re: changing bash prompt escape sequences
scott wrote: version a... export PS1=\l [EMAIL PROTECTED] # version b... export PS1=\l [EMAIL PROTECTED] \\$ B changes the # to be either $ or # per user's non-root/root status. I was just using the line they provided... it's up to them to read the manual. -Nix Fan.
Re: What is our ultimate goal??
Jacob Meuser wrote: Marc Espie wrote: Nonsense, as long as you can plug in some plutonium, things should be fine. Are you tellin' me this sucker is nuclear? ...Mr. Fusion? ;) -Nix Fan.
Re: Cold Boot Attacks on Encryption Keys
My understanding of paging isn't as good as the developers, but I do know that memory isn't organized in an entirely sequential fashion.. Free memory is organized into pages, 4096 byte chucks of memory If my system was shutdown, and someone attempted to recover information from RAM, several obvious obstacles would be: 1) Significant portions of the RAM would be corrupt or in an inconsistent state... 2) Important structures, like the page table could be lost... The key used by... mount_vnd for instance, wouldn't be in a predictable location how would you find it? This is a waste of bandwidth... -Nix Fan.
Re: inspircd + libunwind?
Is this the library you're looking for http://www.nongnu.org/libunwind/ ? I found it via Google and it wasn't exactly very hard. -Nix Fan.
Re: pkill.c warn when no such process
$ pkill bob; echo $? 1 $ Just live with it.. ;) Breaking compatibility just to convenience you... is not an option. -Nix Fan.
Re: [ami] Unable to set Hot Spare from bioctl on a Dell PERC 4/Di
Woah, Has anyone ever provided such a detailed and thorough error report before? That was just amazing.. lol :) -Nix Fan. -Nix Fan.
What did you guys break with Xenocara??
After I updated my OpenBSD 4.2 workstations with the released patches... VLC media player crashes! VLC media player 0.8.6c Janus vlc:/usr/local/lib/vlc/codec/libquicktime_plugin.so: undefined symbol 'NewHandleClear' The program '.' received an X Window System error. This probably reflects a bug in the program. The error was 'BadAlloc (insufficient resources for operation)'. (Details: serial 475 error_code 11 request_code 145 minor_code 5) (Note to programmers: normally, X errors are reported asynchronously; that is, you will receive the error a while after causing it. To debug your program, run it with the --sync command line option to change this behavior. You can then get a meaningful backtrace from your debugger if you break on the gdk_x_error() function.) Come on guys... what happened? I've tried uninstalling VLC and reinstalling it.. and even deleting all .vlc related files in $HOME. Using Mplayer is choppy for some reason... I just bought McDonalds and can't watch a DVD :( :( :( -Nix Fan.
Re: What did you guys break with Xenocara??
Marco Peereboom wrote: This report is useless. Where are all the logs? What logs? The only error message produced is in my initial email... all other applications I use are working.. Did you mean a dmesg? What will that accomplish? I haven't updated my kernel since applying the Xenocara patches.. and it worked previously. Jacob Meuser wrote: try kaffeine or ogle for DVDs as well. I don't want to install additional bloat software... but thank you. or change the video output module in vlc. Why? It assume it's using XVideo which worked fine before applying Errata #6. btw, you never said what arch this is on or what window manager you are using ... I didn't feel they were relevant.. but I'm using fluxbox.. and i386... (On an Athlon XP box..) and cross-posting to misc and ports is rather lame. How was it lame? Not everyone frequents both lists... perhaps someone else noticed the issue?.. I can't be the only person on earth who watches movies... The released patches not being thoroughly tested is lame sir... ;) -Nix Fan.
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Marco Peereboom wrote: Since you don't provides logs and just yell I'll assume that this was done on m68k using last weeks xenocara on last months userland and last years kernel. I mentioned I was using OpenBSD 4.2 and applied the latest Xenocara patches... Apologies for not stating the obvious.. because everyone watches DVD's on m68k.. right? Marco Peereboom wrote: Based on your setup I can conclude that you are running out of sync and therefore your fix is to update everything using source (just to make sure). I'm not out of sync.. I'm running OpenBSD 4.2 and I have everything on the errata page applied.. ;) Jacob Meuser: hmm, something makes me think this type of attitude has something to do with the disappearance of -stable ports ... Yes, I am pissed off that the developers ended that... They/You arrogantly assumed everyone uses -CURRENT, and security isn't important to those using -STABLE. Jacob Meuser: as you said, everything but watching dvds with vlc worked, for you on your setup. do you really expect every possible scenario with every possible port combination to be tested? would you rather not have -stable patches? I said VLC doesn't work.. regardless of what I want to play in it.. it crashes upon execution.. with the error in my initial email.. Clearly it's complaining about some sort of memory allocation bug... And if it worked before that errata patch.. It's safe to assume one of the developers screwed up.. ;) -Nix Fan.
Re: What did you guys break with Xenocara??
EDIT: Missing subject line, apologies for the spam... honestly. Marco Peereboom wrote: Since you don't provides logs and just yell I'll assume that this was done on m68k using last weeks xenocara on last months userland and last years kernel. I mentioned I was using OpenBSD 4.2 and applied the latest Xenocara patches... Apologies for not stating the obvious.. because everyone watches DVD's on m68k.. right? Marco Peereboom wrote: Based on your setup I can conclude that you are running out of sync and therefore your fix is to update everything using source (just to make sure). I'm not out of sync.. I'm running OpenBSD 4.2 and I have everything on the errata page applied.. ;) Jacob Meuser: hmm, something makes me think this type of attitude has something to do with the disappearance of -stable ports ... Yes, I am pissed off that the developers ended that... They/You arrogantly assumed everyone uses -CURRENT, and security isn't important to those using -STABLE. Jacob Meuser: as you said, everything but watching dvds with vlc worked, for you on your setup. do you really expect every possible scenario with every possible port combination to be tested? would you rather not have -stable patches? I said VLC doesn't work.. regardless of what I want to play in it.. it crashes upon execution.. with the error in my initial email.. Clearly it's complaining about some sort of memory allocation bug... And if it worked before that errata patch.. It's safe to assume one of the developers screwed up.. ;) -Nix Fan.
Re: What did you guys break with Xenocara??
Works fine here on the fresh installation of 4.2 release. I think, I had to set correct device node in preferences but that was it. I personally like the best Ogle as a DVD player. You may also use MPlayer. Did you clean .vlc after the rebuilt? I'm aware of this.. I've used vlc for both video files an DVD's before errata #6 I don't like Ogle or the other one previously recommended... or Mplayer. If you read my emails, You would see that tried removing all my .vlc files.. I don't think that is an issue. Unless it's required to rebuild all packages after patching Xorg? If that's so... It would have been nice to inform people. -Nix Fan.
Re: ports.openbsd.nu
Edd Barrett wrote: hey, what happened to ports.openbsd.nu?. Darn, It would appear the owner forgot to renew it.. and it got picked up by a domain squatter.. :( Very unfortunate loss.. -Nix Fan.
Re: What did you guys break with Xenocara??
After a thought provoking email from Ian Darwin and a few good hours to cool off, I would like to apologize for my behaviour.. I'll put more thought into further posts I make to the list. Take care. -Nix Fan.
Re: Binary distrubition of Xenocara 4.2-STABLE?
Geez, Ignore my last email.. I was ssh'd into the wrong damn system. Sorry for the spam -Nix Fan.
Re: Binary distrubition of Xenocara 4.2-STABLE?
Hello once again, I've successfuly build Xenocara, It installs into /usr/X11R6 (Why not R7 btw?).. and it works.. Now, I'm trying to distribute the build across my workstations... but I get this error. # make release SNIP === proto/bigreqsproto exec make install make: don't know how to make install. Stop in /usr/src/xenocara/proto/bigreqsproto. *** Error code 2 Stop in /usr/src/xenocara/proto/bigreqsproto (line 120 of /usr/X11R6/share/mk/bsd.xorg.mk). *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src/xenocara/proto. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src/xenocara. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src/xenocara (line 77 of Makefile). # I've already defined/created DESTDIR and RELEASEDIR... 1) Why isn't it working ? 2) If it's fixable... Will it spend another night building Xorg again or copy just over the files from my make build? Thanks.. again. -Nix Fan.
Binary distrubition of Xenocara 4.2-STABLE?
Hello, This morning I applied the Xorg patches provided for OpenBSD 4.2.. the build took several hours on one of my Athlon XP+ 2600 machines but it's working wonderfully now. Is there an easy/safe way to upgrade Xorg on the rest of my workstations without repetitively building it on each of them? Thanks for your work guys :) -Nix Fan.
Re: Binary distrubition of Xenocara 4.2-STABLE?
I've read release(8) and I've read the FAQ... but, both still require manually merging.. copying... etc.. I guess I'm just lazy.. I'll do it the overly complex way... :) Packages would be nice... pkg_add integration... Xorg is modular now remember?.. ;) -Nix Fan.
Re: Inexpensive networking.
I/Unixfan wrote: such a speed the ISA bus can't even achieve. Apologies, While the rest of what I said was true.. this clearly wasn't. The ISA bus should be able to accomplish 10Mbit+ speeds.. Please don't hurt me ;) -Nix Fan. -Nix Fan.
Re: Inexpensive networking.
Douglas A. Tutty wrote: Well, I've never had high-speed internet and I get along just fine. My NFS server was my IBM 486DX4-100 with 32 MB ram and a 10 MB/s ISA card. Worked just fine. What wil the students be doing where they would need more than 10 MB/s each between them and your server? If its between them and the internet, how fast is your internet? I suppose you don't have to limit each desk to 10 and let them fight over the 100 MB/s. I suppose it depends on the application and a desire to avoid a hungry student from bogging down the network. Better to throttle the student's desktop than to throttle the student. :) Doug. You realize that a 10 Mbit card has a maximum theoretical transfer rate of 1220 Kilobytes per second... such a speed the ISA bus can't even achieve. Even my home broadband line exceeds those speeds ;) Setting workstations to 10Mbit mode is a bad method of bandwidth management.. -Nix Fan. :) -Nix Fan.
Xorg -STABLE patches?
I've been watching the CVS commits the last few weeks and noticed several Xorg related security fixes back ported into 4.1 and 4.2 -STABLE. Are they important enough to get on the errata pages? Some of us sorta rely on that... ;) Thanks. -Nix Fan.
Re: low-MHz server
Douglas A. Tutty wrote: My wife is sensitive to what she describes as electromagnetic fields. She gets headaches and other pains when exposed to equipment: the higher the frequency, the worse her symptoms. Looks like you need to trade her in... she's broken. ;) -Nix Fan.
Re: Install OpenBSD from USB ?
markus ploner wrote: just for the record: you could've just dd'ed the floppy42.fs to the usb device this has worked for me several times. markus That'd be a pretty dumb way to do it... 1) The bsd.rd on the floppy image is considerably smaller then the one on the CD. 2) USB thumb drives are more like hard drives, they use an MBR.. which one might want to preserve. Using fdisk/disklabel/newfs and then installboot would be the better option ;) -Nix Fan.
Re: OpenCVS?
Stuart Henderson wrote: See for yourself: http://www.openbsd.org/cgi-bin/cvsweb/src/usr.bin/cvs/ I'm slighly confused by something if the cvs command in OpenBSD 4.2 is OpenCVS, why does cvs --help refer to places like cvshome.org for updates etc? -Nix Fan.
Re: azalia0 on hp nx7300
Bachman Kharazmi wrote: yeay! outputs.speaker.eapd=off - on did turn off the mute led. and now I get should ;) ... I think you meant sound... ;) should means something entirely different... -Nix Fan.
Re: vlan configuration: off-topic
On Fri, 18 Jan 2008, John Nietzsche wrote: Dear gentleman, That's a very sexist way to address the people on this list.. be a bit more gender neutral next time. -Nix Fan.
Re: Why do clients running BitTorrent make my router's latency go through the roof?
I notice a lot of people forward several ports when using bittorrent You know, It's not written in stone that you need to use more then a single port... I never run into any speed problems... Even when nearly maxing up my 20Mbit home cable line ;) -Nix Fan.
64 bit file I/O?
Does OpenBSD's base utilities support 64 bit I/O? I attempted to create a 8GB file using the dd application distributed with OpenBSD 4.2, unfortunately it fails with: dd: count: Result too large Confused, I tried making the size smaller, and noticed it bails out at exactly 4294967295 bytes, 4294967294 succeeds however.. dd: count: Undefined error: 0 What are my options? -Nix Fan.
Re: 64 bit file I/O?
Apologies, I was using a larger count size, which is restricted by a 32bit variable. (size_t). FreeBSD's dd is 64 bit safe for all options... might be worth looking into. Darrin Chandler wrote: Ted Unangst wrote: what bs are you using? Try to be more polite, please. He wasn't being rude, bs the block size option for the dd command... which I the slow idiot. had set to 1.. Sorry for the disruption all, won't happen again. -Nix Fan.
Re: Hard disk speed
You can use iostat(8) if you're trying to ascertain the transfer rate the of drive... are you? $ iostat -d wd0 cd0 cd1 fd0 KB/t t/s MB/s KB/t t/s MB/s KB/t t/s MB/s KB/t t/s MB/s 18.10 1 0.03 0.00 0 0.00 0.00 0 0.00 3.88 0 0.00 $ Beware though, for months I thought OpenBSD couldn't achieve more then 1MB/s write speeds... Then I enabled write cache with atactl(8) and everything was fine... (Shame on me..) -Nix Fan. (Apologies for the CC, Not sure if you're subscribed.)
Re: Apache box behind Openbsd
Daniel Ouellet wrote: Antti Harri wrote: Errr.. why the hell are you running Apache and PHP on Windows rather than your OpenBSD? Because Stallman make it easy to run *HIS* version of *SUPPOSE* free software one Windows. That's why. Stallman as the various treads pointed out many times over, he (Richard) tell everyone else to do things, but he doesn't do it himself. While I agree with your anti-Stallmanism attitude, neither Apache or PHP are licenced under the GPL.. in fact, both are BSD-like in some way. http://www.apache.org/licenses/LICENSE-1.0 http://www.apache.org/licenses/LICENSE-1.1 http://www.apache.org/licenses/LICENSE-2.0 http://www.php.net/license/3_01.txt -Nix Fan.
Re: Open Source Article Spawns Interesting Ethical Question
Richard Stallman wrote: I see nothing wrong in using someone else's Windows machine for a few minutes. Great!, Now go down to your local public library.. assuming they offer free Internet access.. Do you're own fucking research! Helpful resources: http://en.wikipedia.org/ http://www.google.com/ ..etc -Nix Fan.
Re: Open Source Article Spawns Interesting Ethical Question
Richard Stallman wrote: But it also perpetuates serious problems (totalitarian surveillance,...) Are you seriously that paranoid? Do you wear a tin foil hat by any chance? :-) Richard Stallman wrote: The cases are similar, and my view on the two cases is similar. So answer this question, did you ask to use the phone? or did the fact someone had one lure you into the dark side by using proprietary software? You're an old man way out of date, disconnected from reality, technology and your sanity.. Please, do us all a favour and retire from computing.. You're in no position to attack free operating systems, you don't can't even keep your definition strait. Note: The proceeding licence only applies to Richard Matthew Stallman's viewing. UPL(Unixfan public licence), You are not free to read this message, by doing so, you have violated my licence and are required to urinate publicly. Thank you. -Nix Fan.
Re: [Fwd: Open-Hardware]
Richard Stallman wrote: Gilles' message seems to say that OpenBSD policy is to allow binary-only firmware. Is that correct? Binary firmware that's legally redistributable is distributed in OpenBSD, Yes. But you need to wrap your head around what that means for OpenBSD. Modern technologies like Wireless cards are little complex computers, some time ago, vendors decided it would be easier to ship the firmware inside of the Proprietary Windows driver and upload it onto the card at initialization time. (Instead of storing it permanently on internal flash/ROM memory.) These firmwares are just the same as Microcode in modern processors, It's NOT tainting the kernel at all... unlike binary blob drivers that are very common in the Linux/(And even the FreeBSD) communities. The contents of the firmware is nobody's business... every firmware in /etc/firmware has a companion text licence beside it, the average size of these firmware binaries is like less then ~50 Kilobytes. Seriously Richard, You need to educate yourself more... you're completely disconnected from modern technologies, and you're preaching obsolete nonsense. -Nix Fan.
Re: OSS v4.0 released under BSD license
Awesome, It's great that they decided to release the code under a 2 clause BSD licence... :-) But I don't the the OpenBSD project should rip out it's entire current framework and start using this package.. Still, It could serve as an excellent research... for additional drivers, inspiration.. and code.. -Nix Fan.
Re: Real men don't attack straw men
As I've said, I think it's acceptable for free applications to run on non-free platforms (and say that they do), because this doesn't recommend the installation of those non-free platforms. But free systems should not recommend, suggest, or offer to install non-free apps. What is an operating system? An OS could be considered an application, Thus it's very convent that you can recommend free software on non-free operating systems, but then attack free operating systems that only offer an optional scaffold for using non-free software. Richard, You're a hypocrite.. and your values are flawed.. I think you need to re-evaluate your position, and for goodness sake.. use a web browser so you can actually backup your claims. (With research..) Please, Go back to HURD land.. stop biting the hand that feeds the community, by writing drivers.. obtaining vendor docs.. and protesting binary blobs - And stop making uneducated accusations and assessments based on what some friend's friend's brothers mother told you in passing. -Nix Fan.
Re: Richard Stallman...
Maxim Bourmistrov wrote: Yes, as this continues you have to say something Theo, but. I personally prefer the moto If you want it right - you have to do it yourself. So please Theo stop wasting your time and continue with your development of OpenBSD. The energy you wasting to reply this flame is taken from OpenBSD project. So stfu and work! P.S. The last one should be interpreted as Do what you suppose to do! Theo and the other developers do what they do because they want to, not because you want them to. Seriously, how can you tell him to Shut the F**k up?... who do you think you are? -Nix Fan.
Apologies for the subject-less post...
I messed up while replying to a topic, won't happen again... hopefully.. -Nix Fan.
Re: how to create a sha256 hash
I've always used sha1 -a sha256 filename, but I suppose cksum(1) would be the better command to use.. ;) -Nix Fan.
Re: delete deleted data
I'm sorry Marco, but I think what you've said is bullshit, as well contacted several so called data recovery organizations, after admitting to have zeroed the drive contents - They said recovery wasn't possible.. While it might be possible to get miscellaneous data off of a drive, it would likely be cost prohibitive (if even possible..). But let's see how new_guy(aka Brad)'s quest goes.. perhaps he can post any documents/paper would returned by the company.. -Nix Fan.
Re: delete deleted data
new_guy wrote: I'm working on putting a website up now where I'll fully disclose the details. Lots of pictures and details. I will attribute the dd used to OpenBSD (the best OS on the planet bar none... although the dd on the install CD did not support the conv option... I would have liked to have done conv=noerror,sync). I plan to ship the drive off tomorrow. I plan to put this myth to rest... where it belongs. Awesome :) I totally like the idea, I'd like to put the 1 pass is not enough myth to rest as well... I've been in the computing industry for 20 years, and I still refuse to submit to the Americas NSA knows all dogmai. (I like the Put Up or Shut Up slogan as well!!) Keep us informed Brad :) -Nix Fan.
Re: fvwm in base and repository with security issues?
Douglas A. Tutty wrote: To satisfy my own curiosity, looking at www.en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Free_X_window_managers which provides links to 45 window managers for which there are wiki pages, I looked at the licence for each and found that only xmonad, wmii, fluxbox, and blackbox are licenced under BSD or MIT license. Since I didn't look at the software itself, I don't know if any require GPL libraries. Just thought I'd FYI. I'm not making an argument either/any way. Doug. Fluxbox is MIT licenced, it's dependencies are Imlib2, which is BSD licenced.. everything else is included in Xorg and is (AFAIK..) under a similar licence. -Nix Fan. (Fvwm, IMHO is ugly..)
Re: delete deleted data
rm -P would be what you're looking for.. But is it even required? It's not exactly an easy task to undelete a file anyway... the process alone is an effecitve deterrent. -Nix Fan.
Re: error while adding amavisd....
OpenBSD doesn't have distribution rights for archivers/freeze... You'll have to build it from ports... -Nix Fan.
Re: UNIX way of undeleting files?
From my understanding, restoring a file after deletion would be very complicated because files aren't stored in a sequential fashion... When you delete a file, the inode for the file is removed.. (assuming there wasn't another hard link to it...)... That inode contained the only list of blocks that were allocated for that file. As you can see, The data remains on the drive.. but as Chris Kuethe said... do you like jigsaw puzzles? -Nix Fan.
Re: Embedding OpenBSD
This is a neat idea, but personally I think it'll be hard to make the device 0 maintenance, problems can always occur... If you're set on using OpenBSD in this project, remove everything from the base system that isn't needed... and try running the unit non-stop for 48/hours... just to be sure it's not going to die days after you leave the country. If this all seems horribly complex, use one of Doug's suggestions. (Consider a modem, or a net card... so remote maintenance is possible..)
Re: Embedding OpenBSD
Marco Peereboom wrote: What in the world??? Do you drive a car? if the answer is yes you have an unconnected embedded device. Need more examples? No, I walk.. batteries not included.. Seriously, I was simply giving my opinion... unfortunately I walked under a bridge and got attacked by a troll.. Bad troll. -Nix Fan.
Re: pf + wii
Chris Cappuccio wrote: upnp is also necessary for other multiplayer games like xbox live. it's unfortunate, but true. Here's an idea.. grow up and stop playing Video Games. Problem eliminated.. damn kids and their games... -Nix Fan.
Re: Marry Christmas!
Who the heck is Marry? :P Typically one spells it Merry, not Marry. Please spank the evil monkey who taught you English -Scrooge (Aka, Nix Fan..)
Re: Real men don't attack straw men
Some day in the future, RMS will die while having sexual intercourse with an android running proprietary software... and on that day, I will buy everyone a round of beers. Sure I'm terrible, but he's just crazy... ;) (I may be drunk, but you are ugly, and tomorrow I'll be sober.) -Nix Fan.
Re: no 4.2-stable package updates??
I would like to apologize for my early post to this topic, I was extremely rude and disrespectful. Please disregard it. -Nix Fan.
Re: Bind port for bind/dmz
Michael Spratt wrote: I have a question, I'm trying to recompile a flavor of bind but I can't find the port because its part of the base install. Could you point me in the right direction on how I would do it ? I downloaded the bind source and compiled it but obviously the original version that ships on base should be un-installed from openbsd first.. I don't know how to do it because its part of the base system. Sorry if I'm posting in the wrong area if so please direct me to the proper area. I don't have experinece interacting with the community here. If you have src.tar.gz downloaded from an FTP mirror, You can use the local modified version of BIND instead of trying to hack it out of the base system. /usr/src/usr.sbin/bind/Makefile.bsd-wrapper would be the file to look at... I hope this helps, Good luck. -Nix Fan.
Re: Real men don't attack straw men
Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote: You too. I still remember cheering when I read http://monkey.org/openbsd/archive/ports/0108/msg00460.html * From: Theo de Raadt [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2001 12:11:00 -0600 * Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I am just curious - why exactly were all the DJB ports dropped? Precisely because of what the commit message says: Removed qmail; license does not permit modification [camield 2001-08-14] Sadly you're too quick to launch the 'hypocrit' word... http://www.openbsd.org/4.2_packages/i386/zangband-2.6.2p1.tgz-long.html According to Sourceforge: http://sourceforge.net/projects/zangband License: Other/Proprietary License Rui Nice try, but... every file in that CVS repository has: http://zangband.cvs.sourceforge.net/zangband/zangband/src/main.c?revision=1.44view=markup ~~SNIP~~ /* * Copyright (c) 1997 Ben Harrison, and others * * This software may be copied and distributed for educational, research, * and not for profit purposes provided that this copyright and statement * are included in all such copies. */ ~~SNIP~~ According to the licence header on each one of those files, I don't see any reason why binary packages can't be made available... Go away troll.. You're not welcome here... -Nix Fan.
Re: no 4.2-stable package updates??
This really does suck... While we as users appreciate developers hard work, A majority rely on -STABLE for updated and secure 3rd party software.. You really can't expect everyone to use -CURRENT in a production environment.. and it's been made clear that using -CURRENT ports on a -STABLE system is a bad idea. ([i]And not entirely easy either..[/i]). Why even have a -CURRENT ports tree?... -STABLE should be the tree maintained for the 6 months between releases.. Please reconsider discontinuing the -STABLE tree, people depend on it... people depend on you.. :( -Nix Fan.
Re: 4.2 i386 install fails on a HP Compaq dc7700
I've never seen a CD/DVD drive that uses UDMA 5, Pretty fast... but I've also never seen/used SATA extensively.. One option might be to downgrade the drive to UDMA 2 perhaps? see if that helps any?.. -Nix Fan.
Re: Seg fault by cc1 on AMD-K6-2
Greetings :) Have you considered running a passes with memtest86? I have the feeling one of those RAM modules is defective, I still own a few K6-2 systems and they work perfectly. ;) -Nix fan.
Re: rouge IPs / user
I think this is the second time you've posted something similar to this... I have news for you Everyone gets such traffic in their logs.. from DoS'ers and other mischievous individuals.. There really isn't much you can do about it either, and if you report back to each IP's abuse email.. chances are it originated from some 80 year old grandmothers trojan infected computer. Just use sane firewall rules... only enable services you need, and suck it up!! ;) -Nix Fan.
Re: Filesystem activity monitoring
fstat(1) displays all open file inodes, it couldn't possibly translate them to names reliably.. because a file can have many different hard links, thus have different names. I know it's sad, but that's just the way it is. one option might be the ncheck_ffs(8) command though..
Re: fdisk manual page missing
Mitja [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, There is no man page for fdisk in 4.2. http://www.openbsd.org/cgi-bin/man.cgi?query=fdiskapropos=0sektion=0manpath=OpenBSD \ +4.2arch=i386format=html Best regards, Mitja This is a little odd, but only that online manual page viewer is effected... The manual page does exist on all of my OpenBSD 4.2 systems. -Nix Fan.
Re: dd:ing an image created on Linux?
If you own any other ~1G SD cards, perhaps you should try using one of them?... for reasons unknown, not all cards are created equal. :( -Nix Fan.
