Re: HP notebook and wired temperatures
On Fri, Jun 07, 2013 at 05:39:03PM +0200, Sven Gaerner wrote: A recent snapshot would probably fix this. http://openbsd.7691.n7.nabble.com/Somewhat-important-ACPI-diff-td228642.html (committed as rev. 1.201 of dsdt.c) Thanks for link. I will have a look. I installed the snapshot that has been built on 6. June. This version fixes all the issues. The system comes up without reporting any strange temperatures. sysctl hw.sensors shows expected values (around 55 C). I attached the dmesg and the sysctl output. Thanks a lot for your help and the great system. Sven 1 at ppb0 bus 8 bge0 at pci1 dev 0 function 0 Broadcom BCM5753M rev 0x21, BCM5750 C1 (0x4201): apic 1 int 16, address 00:16:d4:0d:67:3e brgphy0 at bge0 phy 1: BCM5750 10/100/1000baseT PHY, rev. 0 ppb1 at pci0 dev 28 function 1 Intel 82801GB PCIE rev 0x01: apic 1 int 17 pci2 at ppb1 bus 16 wpi0 at pci2 dev 0 function 0 Intel PRO/Wireless 3945ABG rev 0x02: msi, MoW2, address 00:13:02:51:b4:19 ppb2 at pci0 dev 28 function 3 Intel 82801GB PCIE rev 0x01: apic 1 int 19 pci3 at ppb2 bus 32 uhci0 at pci0 dev 29 function 0 Intel 82801GB USB rev 0x01: apic 1 int 20 uhci1 at pci0 dev 29 function 1 Intel 82801GB USB rev 0x01: apic 1 int 22 uhci2 at pci0 dev 29 function 2 Intel 82801GB USB rev 0x01: apic 1 int 18 uhci3 at pci0 dev 29 function 3 Intel 82801GB USB rev 0x01: apic 1 int 19 ehci0 at pci0 dev 29 function 7 Intel 82801GB USB rev 0x01: apic 1 int 20 usb0 at ehci0: USB revision 2.0 uhub0 at usb0 Intel EHCI root hub rev 2.00/1.00 addr 1 ppb3 at pci0 dev 30 function 0 Intel 82801BAM Hub-to-PCI rev 0xe1 pci4 at ppb3 bus 2 cbb0 at pci4 dev 6 function 0 TI PCIXX12 CardBus rev 0x00: apic 1 int 18 TI PCIXX12 Multimedia Card Reader rev 0x00 at pci4 dev 6 function 2 not configured sdhc0 at pci4 dev 6 function 3 TI PCIXX12 Secure Data rev 0x00: apic 1 int 22 sdmmc0 at sdhc0 TI PCIXX12 Smart Card rev 0x00 at pci4 dev 6 function 4 not configured cardslot0 at cbb0 slot 0 flags 0 cardbus0 at cardslot0: bus 3 device 0 cacheline 0x10, lattimer 0x20 pcmcia0 at cardslot0 ichpcib0 at pci0 dev 31 function 0 Intel 82801GBM LPC rev 0x01: PM disabled pciide0 at pci0 dev 31 function 1 Intel 82801GB IDE rev 0x01: DMA, channel 0 configured to compatibility, channel 1 configured to compatibility atapiscsi0 at pciide0 channel 0 drive 0 scsibus0 at atapiscsi0: 2 targets cd0 at scsibus0 targ 0 lun 0: MATSHITA, UJDA775 DVD/CDRW, 1.00 ATAPI 5/cdrom removable cd0(pciide0:0:0): using PIO mode 4, DMA mode 2 pciide0: channel 1 ignored (disabled) ahci0 at pci0 dev 31 function 2 Intel 82801GBM AHCI rev 0x01: msi, AHCI 1.1 scsibus1 at ahci0: 32 targets sd0 at scsibus1 targ 0 lun 0: ATA, HTS541080G9SA00, MB4O SCSI3 0/direct fixed t10.ATA_HTS541080G9SA00_MPBDL0XKGUPHJM sd0: 76319MB, 512 bytes/sector, 156301488 sectors usb1 at uhci0: USB revision 1.0 uhub1 at usb1 Intel UHCI root hub rev 1.00/1.00 addr 1 usb2 at uhci1: USB revision 1.0 uhub2 at usb2 Intel UHCI root hub rev 1.00/1.00 addr 1 usb3 at uhci2: USB revision 1.0 uhub3 at usb3 Intel UHCI root hub rev 1.00/1.00 addr 1 usb4 at uhci3: USB revision 1.0 uhub4 at usb4 Intel UHCI root hub rev 1.00/1.00 addr 1 isa0 at ichpcib0 isadma0 at isa0 com2 at isa0 port 0x3e8/8 irq 5: ns16550a, 16 byte fifo pckbc0 at isa0 port 0x60/5 pckbd0 at pckbc0 (kbd slot) pckbc0: using irq 1 for kbd slot wskbd0 at pckbd0: console keyboard, using wsdisplay0 pms0 at pckbc0 (aux slot) pckbc0: using irq 12 for aux slot wsmouse0 at pms0 mux 0 pcppi0 at isa0 port 0x61 spkr0 at pcppi0 npx0 at isa0 port 0xf0/16: reported by CPUID; using exception 16 mtrr: Pentium Pro MTRR support umass0 at uhub0 port 4 configuration 1 interface 0 SMI Corporation USB DISK rev 2.00/11.00 addr 2 umass0: using SCSI over Bulk-Only scsibus2 at umass0: 2 targets, initiator 0 sd1 at scsibus2 targ 1 lun 0: USB, Flash Disk, 1100 SCSI0 0/direct removable sd1: 967MB, 512 bytes/sector, 1980416 sectors ugen0 at uhub1 port 1 Broadcom Corp HP Integrated Module rev 2.00/1.00 addr 2 ugen1 at uhub2 port 1 AuthenTec Fingerprint Sensor rev 1.10/6.21 addr 2 vscsi0 at root scsibus3 at vscsi0: 256 targets softraid0 at root scsibus4 at softraid0: 256 targets root on sd1a (0ef2902f88d24fba.a) swap on sd1b dump on sd1b syncing disks... done rebooting... OpenBSD 5.3-current (RAMDISK_CD) #136: Thu Jun 6 13:30:59 MDT 2013 dera...@i386.openbsd.org:/usr/src/sys/arch/i386/compile/RAMDISK_CD cpu0: Genuine Intel(R) CPU T2400 @ 1.83GHz (GenuineIntel 686-class) 1.83 GHz cpu0: FPU,V86,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,CFLUSH,DS,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SS,HTT,TM,PBE,NXE,SSE3,MWAIT,VMX,EST,TM2,xTPR,PDCM,PERF real mem = 3614830592 (3447MB) avail mem = 3548520448 (3384MB) mainbus0 at root bios0 at mainbus0: AT/286+ BIOS, date 09/05/07, BIOS32 rev. 0 @ 0xf, SMBIOS rev. 2.4 @ 0xf398f (23 entries) bios0: vendor Hewlett-Packard version 68YCU Ver. F.0B date 09/05/2007 bios0: Hewlett-Packard HP Compaq nc6400 (RA270AA#ABD) acpi0 at bios0: rev 2 acpi0: sleep states S0 S3 S4 S5 acpi0:
HP notebook and wired temperatures
Hi, I installed OpenBSD 5.3 i386 on my HP nc6400 notebook. Now when booting the system, the kernel prints acpitz3: critical temperate exceeded (3290 C): shutting down. This temperature (3290 C) is shown after starting a system that was powered off for several hours. After finishing the installation the reported temperature was about 4180 C. The other BSDs also report wired temperates but not that high. Some years ago Linux reported about 55 C for the CPU which seems to be a more realistic value. Attached is a dmesg from the bsd.rd as this kernel does not immediately shutdown the system. Is there a way to disable this immediate shutdown of the system? And how can I help to get sane values reported? Thanks. Sven OpenBSD 5.3 (RAMDISK_CD) #49: Tue Mar 12 18:50:37 MDT 2013 dera...@i386.openbsd.org:/usr/src/sys/arch/i386/compile/RAMDISK_CD cpu0: Genuine Intel(R) CPU T2400 @ 1.83GHz (GenuineIntel 686-class) 1.83 GHz cpu0: FPU,V86,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,CFLUSH,DS,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SS,HTT,TM,PBE,NXE,SSE3,MWAIT,VMX,EST,TM2,xTPR,PDCM,PERF real mem = 3614830592 (3447MB) avail mem = 3548024832 (3383MB) mainbus0 at root bios0 at mainbus0: AT/286+ BIOS, date 09/05/07, BIOS32 rev. 0 @ 0xf, SMBIOS rev. 2.4 @ 0xf398f (23 entries) bios0: vendor Hewlett-Packard version 68YCU Ver. F.0B date 09/05/2007 bios0: Hewlett-Packard HP Compaq nc6400 (RA270AA#ABD) acpi0 at bios0: rev 2 acpi0: sleep states S0 S3 S4 S5 acpi0: tables DSDT FACP SLIC HPET APIC MCFG TCPA SSDT SSDT SSDT SSDT SSDT acpimadt0 at acpi0 addr 0xfee0: PC-AT compat cpu0 at mainbus0: apid 0 (boot processor) cpu0: apic clock running at 166MHz cpu at mainbus0: not configured ioapic0 at mainbus0: apid 1 pa 0xfec0, version 20, 24 pins ioapic0: misconfigured as apic 0, remapped to apid 1 acpiprt0 at acpi0: bus 2 (C098) acpiprt1 at acpi0: bus 8 (C101) acpiprt2 at acpi0: bus 16 (C111) acpiprt3 at acpi0: bus 32 (C117) acpiprt4 at acpi0: bus 0 (C002) bios0: ROM list: 0xc/0x1! pci0 at mainbus0 bus 0: configuration mode 1 (bios) pchb0 at pci0 dev 0 function 0 Intel 82945GM Host rev 0x03 vga1 at pci0 dev 2 function 0 Intel 82945GM Video rev 0x03 wsdisplay0 at vga1 mux 1: console (80x25, vt100 emulation) Intel 82945GM Video rev 0x03 at pci0 dev 2 function 1 not configured Intel 82801GB HD Audio rev 0x01 at pci0 dev 27 function 0 not configured ppb0 at pci0 dev 28 function 0 Intel 82801GB PCIE rev 0x01: apic 1 int 16 pci1 at ppb0 bus 8 bge0 at pci1 dev 0 function 0 Broadcom BCM5753M rev 0x21, BCM5750 C1 (0x4201): apic 1 int 16, address 00:16:d4:0d:67:3e brgphy0 at bge0 phy 1: BCM5750 10/100/1000baseT PHY, rev. 0 ppb1 at pci0 dev 28 function 1 Intel 82801GB PCIE rev 0x01: apic 1 int 17 pci2 at ppb1 bus 16 wpi0 at pci2 dev 0 function 0 Intel PRO/Wireless 3945ABG rev 0x02: msi, MoW2, address 00:13:02:51:b4:19 ppb2 at pci0 dev 28 function 3 Intel 82801GB PCIE rev 0x01: apic 1 int 19 pci3 at ppb2 bus 32 uhci0 at pci0 dev 29 function 0 Intel 82801GB USB rev 0x01: apic 1 int 20 uhci1 at pci0 dev 29 function 1 Intel 82801GB USB rev 0x01: apic 1 int 22 uhci2 at pci0 dev 29 function 2 Intel 82801GB USB rev 0x01: apic 1 int 18 uhci3 at pci0 dev 29 function 3 Intel 82801GB USB rev 0x01: apic 1 int 19 ehci0 at pci0 dev 29 function 7 Intel 82801GB USB rev 0x01: apic 1 int 20 usb0 at ehci0: USB revision 2.0 uhub0 at usb0 Intel EHCI root hub rev 2.00/1.00 addr 1 ppb3 at pci0 dev 30 function 0 Intel 82801BAM Hub-to-PCI rev 0xe1 pci4 at ppb3 bus 2 cbb0 at pci4 dev 6 function 0 TI PCIXX12 CardBus rev 0x00: apic 1 int 18 TI PCIXX12 Multimedia Card Reader rev 0x00 at pci4 dev 6 function 2 not configured TI PCIXX12 Secure Data rev 0x00 at pci4 dev 6 function 3 not configured TI PCIXX12 Smart Card rev 0x00 at pci4 dev 6 function 4 not configured cardslot0 at cbb0 slot 0 flags 0 cardbus0 at cardslot0: bus 3 device 0 cacheline 0x10, lattimer 0x20 pcmcia0 at cardslot0 pcib0 at pci0 dev 31 function 0 Intel 82801GBM LPC rev 0x01 pciide0 at pci0 dev 31 function 1 Intel 82801GB IDE rev 0x01: DMA, channel 0 configured to compatibility, channel 1 configured to compatibility atapiscsi0 at pciide0 channel 0 drive 0 scsibus0 at atapiscsi0: 2 targets cd0 at scsibus0 targ 0 lun 0: MATSHITA, UJDA775 DVD/CDRW, 1.00 ATAPI 5/cdrom removable cd0(pciide0:0:0): using PIO mode 4, DMA mode 2 pciide0: channel 1 ignored (disabled) ahci0 at pci0 dev 31 function 2 Intel 82801GBM AHCI rev 0x01: msi, AHCI 1.1 scsibus1 at ahci0: 32 targets sd0 at scsibus1 targ 0 lun 0: ATA, HTS541080G9SA00, MB4O SCSI3 0/direct fixed t10.ATA_HTS541080G9SA00_MPBDL0XKGUPHJM sd0: 76319MB, 512 bytes/sector, 156301488 sectors usb1 at uhci0: USB revision 1.0 uhub1 at usb1 Intel UHCI root hub rev 1.00/1.00 addr 1 usb2 at uhci1: USB revision 1.0 uhub2 at usb2 Intel UHCI root hub rev 1.00/1.00 addr 1 usb3 at uhci2: USB revision 1.0 uhub3 at usb3 Intel UHCI root hub rev 1.00/1.00 addr 1 usb4 at uhci3: USB revision 1.0 uhub4 at usb4 Intel UHCI root hub rev 1.00/1.00 addr 1 isa0 at pcib0
Re: HP notebook and wired temperatures
2013/6/7 Sven Gaerner sgaer...@gmx.net: I installed OpenBSD 5.3 i386 on my HP nc6400 notebook. Now when booting the system, the kernel prints acpitz3: critical temperate exceeded (3290 C): shutting down. This temperature (3290 C) is shown after starting a system that was powered off for several hours. After finishing the installation the reported temperature was about 4180 C. The other BSDs also report wired temperates but not that high. Some years ago Linux reported about 55 C for the CPU which seems to be a more realistic value. This is just a next chapter of never-ending story of HP screwing up ACPI tables. This is not OS's fault - it just shows what hardware sends. Send an email to HP telling them to fix this crap (broken for well over 10 years). Greets, Paul.
Re: HP notebook and wired temperatures
* Sven Gaerner sgaer...@gmx.net [130607 17:10]: Hi, I installed OpenBSD 5.3 i386 on my HP nc6400 notebook. Now when booting the system, the kernel prints acpitz3: critical temperate exceeded (3290 C): shutting down. This temperature (3290 C) is shown after starting a system that was powered off for several hours. After finishing the installation the reported temperature was about 4180 C. The other BSDs also report wired temperates but not that high. Some years ago Linux reported about 55 C for the CPU which seems to be a more realistic value. Attached is a dmesg from the bsd.rd as this kernel does not immediately shutdown the system. Is there a way to disable this immediate shutdown of the system? And how can I help to get sane values reported? A recent snapshot would probably fix this. http://openbsd.7691.n7.nabble.com/Somewhat-important-ACPI-diff-td228642.html (committed as rev. 1.201 of dsdt.c) -- Alexander Polakov | plhk.ru
Re: HP notebook and wired temperatures
On Fri, Jun 07, 2013 at 02:38:27PM +0200, Pawel Kraszewski wrote: 2013/6/7 Sven Gaerner sgaer...@gmx.net: This is just a next chapter of never-ending story of HP screwing up ACPI tables. This is not OS's fault - it just shows what hardware sends. Send an email to HP telling them to fix this crap (broken for well over 10 years). Thanks, I guessed it's an ACPI problem and not an OpenBSD one. But I thought one can tell OpenBSD to ignore that useless values. Telling HP that they implemented ACPI the wrong way is IMHO useless. They just don't care. And the notebook is about 6.5 years old. Sven
Re: HP notebook and wired temperatures
On Fri, Jun 07, 2013 at 05:28:17PM +0400, Alexander Polakov wrote: * Sven Gaerner sgaer...@gmx.net [130607 17:10]: The other BSDs also report wired temperates but not that high. Some years ago Linux reported about 55 C for the CPU which seems to be a more realistic value. Is there a way to disable this immediate shutdown of the system? And how can I help to get sane values reported? A recent snapshot would probably fix this. http://openbsd.7691.n7.nabble.com/Somewhat-important-ACPI-diff-td228642.html (committed as rev. 1.201 of dsdt.c) Thanks for link. I will have a look. Sven
Re: HP notebook and wired temperatures
I installed OpenBSD 5.3 i386 on my HP nc6400 notebook. Now when booting the system, the kernel prints acpitz3: critical temperate exceeded (3290 C): shutting down. This temperature (3290 C) is shown after starting a system that was powered off for several hours. After finishing the installation the reported temperature was about 4180 C. The other BSDs also report wired temperates but not that high. Some years ago Linux reported about 55 C for the CPU which seems to be a more realistic value. This is just a next chapter of never-ending story of HP screwing up ACPI tables. This is not OS's fault - it just shows what hardware sends. Send an email to HP telling them to fix this crap (broken for well over 10 years). It's funny that you are so sure. I don't believe it is a bug in the HP ACPI tables. I am certain it is a bug in /sys/dev/acpi/*.c
Re: HP notebook and wired temperatures
2013/6/7 Sven Gaerner sgaer...@gmx.net: Thanks, I guessed it's an ACPI problem and not an OpenBSD one. But I thought one can tell OpenBSD to ignore that useless values. I stuggle with HP crap at work - pretty recent and expensive one. FreeBSD just hangs hard during bootup. There is an official solution - disable ACPI part dealing with SMP and run OS single-core :) And still BSD shows rather hellish temps. That's why I strongly discourage co-workers, friends and family to buy _any_ HP devices. Telling HP that they implemented ACPI the wrong way is IMHO useless. They just don't care. And the notebook is about 6.5 years old. Their standard answer is Yes, we know. All three users of BSD are indignant. Paul
Re: HP notebook and wired temperatures
Thanks, I guessed it's an ACPI problem and not an OpenBSD one. But I thought one can tell OpenBSD to ignore that useless values. I stuggle with HP crap at work - pretty recent and expensive one. FreeBSD just hangs hard during bootup. There is an official solution - disable ACPI part dealing with SMP and run OS single-core :) And still BSD shows rather hellish temps. That's why I strongly discourage co-workers, friends and family to buy _any_ HP devices. That's a more factual note than your previous. The HP machines tend to have very complicated AML with heavy SMI and EC dependencies. Another vendor which leans this way sometimes is Sony. Some machines do have AML bugs, and the Microsoft/Intel ACPI code bases certainly have workarounds for those problems. Some machines simply use corner areas of ACPI that we handle incorrectly. It takes a lot of effort to find these corner cases and handle them correctly.
Re: HP notebook and wired temperatures
The HP machines tend to have very complicated AML with heavy SMI and EC dependencies. Another vendor which leans this way sometimes is Sony. Some machines do have AML bugs, and the Microsoft/Intel ACPI code bases certainly have workarounds for those problems. Some machines simply use corner areas of ACPI that we handle incorrectly. It takes a lot of effort to find these corner cases and handle them correctly. I'm digging through Google to find exact error on FreeBSD I enountered, exact walkaround that (sort of) helped and suspected cause. I remember faintly it was AML construction that failed. -[tick tock]- Cant't find it, sorry. I don't remember exact panic data that helped me find solution. But AFAIR cure was to disable acpica driver. OTOH, It is BSD that is right. BSDs keep in line with standards. It is HP that screws things up (for years). I understand - mountain won't come to BSD, it is BSD that shall go to the the mountain. This is politics. I hate politics. I have a dream: someone at HP would say We are dumbasses. Let's fix BIOS and be such no more. Paul -- P.S. And as Theo the crew is on thread: thanks for OpenBSD as a whole. Thanks for keeping it small. Thanks for keeping it simple. Thanks for keeping it powerful. Thanks for manual being so ingenious.
