Re: Is not possible to disable sndiod process??

2012-06-13 Thread Chris Cappuccio
Tomas Bodzar [tomas.bod...@gmail.com] wrote:
 
 It's obvious that you were not reading FAQ/man pages, because you
 modified files which are not supposed to be modified because of
 experience from some other OS or because you were reading some howto
 install OpenBSD/Linux/BSD/Unix somewhere on the web,

Whatever. The FAQ is just a big HOWTO anyways. It's hardly even an FAQ. It's 
FREQUENTLY ASKED HOW TO DO SHIT in OpenBSD. 

But it's the OFFICIAL HOWTO. That's nice isn't it?

The man pages are the only real guide, if you want the most up-to-date. And if 
they fail, the source code is there. None of this helps someone who can't grasp 
rc.conf.local vs. rc.conf.

Chris



Re: Is not possible to disable sndiod process??

2012-06-10 Thread carlopmart

On 06/09/2012 12:56 PM, Alexandre Ratchov wrote:

On Sat, Jun 09, 2012 at 12:36:19PM +0200, carlopmart wrote:

On 06/09/2012 12:21 PM, Alexandre Ratchov wrote:

On Sat, Jun 09, 2012 at 11:48:29AM +0200, carlopmart wrote:

Hi all,

  How can I disable sndiod process?? I have configured under rc.conf:



the recommended way to disable it by adding:

sndiod_flags=NO

in /etc/rc.conf.local


sndiod_flags=NO

  but every time host is rebooted, sndiod starts ... Why??


indeed, it shouldn't start. May be you've multiple sndiod_flags
definitions, or your setting is overriden in rc.conf.local or
whatever else.

-- Alexandre


Nop, I don't have a rc.conf.local file ..



so, just do:

echo 'sndiod_flags=NO'/etc/rc.conf.local

see rc.conf(5) man page as well.

-- Alexandre


Ok, I have restored original rc.conf file, and created rc.conf.local 
with my options ... and works.


But then a doubt emerges. What files are not recommended to touch 
between upgrades? Where can I found this info??



--
CL Martinez
carlopmart {at} gmail {d0t} com



Re: Is not possible to disable sndiod process??

2012-06-10 Thread Richard Toohey
On 10/06/2012, at 8:25 PM, carlopmart wrote:

 On 06/09/2012 12:56 PM, Alexandre Ratchov wrote:
 On Sat, Jun 09, 2012 at 12:36:19PM +0200, carlopmart wrote:
 On 06/09/2012 12:21 PM, Alexandre Ratchov wrote:
 On Sat, Jun 09, 2012 at 11:48:29AM +0200, carlopmart wrote:
 Hi all,

  How can I disable sndiod process?? I have configured under rc.conf:


 the recommended way to disable it by adding:

 sndiod_flags=NO

 in /etc/rc.conf.local

 sndiod_flags=NO

  but every time host is rebooted, sndiod starts ... Why??

 indeed, it shouldn't start. May be you've multiple sndiod_flags
 definitions, or your setting is overriden in rc.conf.local or
 whatever else.

 -- Alexandre

 Nop, I don't have a rc.conf.local file ..


 so, just do:

  echo 'sndiod_flags=NO'/etc/rc.conf.local

 see rc.conf(5) man page as well.

 -- Alexandre

 Ok, I have restored original rc.conf file, and created rc.conf.local with my
options ... and works.

 But then a doubt emerges. What files are not recommended to touch between
upgrades? Where can I found this info??

You didn't find this?

http://www.openbsd.org/faq/faq10.html

• /etc/rc.conf - Configuration file used by /etc/rc to set startup parameters
for the system. Should not be edited.
• /etc/rc.conf.local - Configuration file that overrides settings in
/etc/rc.conf so you don't have to touch /etc/rc.conf itself, which is
important when upgrading your system.




 --
 CL Martinez
 carlopmart {at} gmail {d0t} com



Re: Is not possible to disable sndiod process??

2012-06-10 Thread Eric Furman
Stop reading HOWTOS on the Internet.
Read an actual book on UNIX.
(UNIX not Linux. there is a difference)
(GNU is not UNIX)
(No truer words have been spoken)
This stuff is UNIX 101.
Because it is UNIX 101 is the reason the replies
you have gotten are either non existent or
dismissive. However, you have been led in the
right direction. Read man pages. If you don't
understand the consequences of editing a
config file then don't edit them.
Stop reading HOWTOS.
They do not lead to understanding.  

On Sun, Jun 10, 2012, at 10:25 AM, carlopmart wrote:
 On 06/09/2012 12:56 PM, Alexandre Ratchov wrote:
  On Sat, Jun 09, 2012 at 12:36:19PM +0200, carlopmart wrote:
  On 06/09/2012 12:21 PM, Alexandre Ratchov wrote:
  On Sat, Jun 09, 2012 at 11:48:29AM +0200, carlopmart wrote:
  Hi all,
 
How can I disable sndiod process?? I have configured under rc.conf:
 
 
  the recommended way to disable it by adding:
 
  sndiod_flags=NO
 
  in /etc/rc.conf.local
 
  sndiod_flags=NO
 
but every time host is rebooted, sndiod starts ... Why??
 
  indeed, it shouldn't start. May be you've multiple sndiod_flags
  definitions, or your setting is overriden in rc.conf.local or
  whatever else.
 
  -- Alexandre
 
  Nop, I don't have a rc.conf.local file ..
 
 
  so, just do:
 
  echo 'sndiod_flags=NO'/etc/rc.conf.local
 
  see rc.conf(5) man page as well.
 
  -- Alexandre
 
 Ok, I have restored original rc.conf file, and created rc.conf.local 
 with my options ... and works.
 
 But then a doubt emerges. What files are not recommended to touch 
 between upgrades? Where can I found this info??
 
 
 -- 
 CL Martinez
 carlopmart {at} gmail {d0t} com



Re: Is not possible to disable sndiod process??

2012-06-10 Thread carlopmart

On 06/10/2012 11:41 AM, Eric Furman wrote:

Stop reading HOWTOS on the Internet.
Read an actual book on UNIX.
(UNIX not Linux. there is a difference)
(GNU is not UNIX)
(No truer words have been spoken)
This stuff is UNIX 101.
Because it is UNIX 101 is the reason the replies
you have gotten are either non existent or
dismissive. However, you have been led in the
right direction. Read man pages. If you don't
understand the consequences of editing a
config file then don't edit them.
Stop reading HOWTOS.
They do not lead to understanding.



Sorry?? What howtos?? Whos is speaking about howtos??



Re: Is not possible to disable sndiod process??

2012-06-10 Thread carlopmart

On 06/10/2012 10:46 AM, Richard Toohey wrote:

On 10/06/2012, at 8:25 PM, carlopmart wrote:


On 06/09/2012 12:56 PM, Alexandre Ratchov wrote:

On Sat, Jun 09, 2012 at 12:36:19PM +0200, carlopmart wrote:

On 06/09/2012 12:21 PM, Alexandre Ratchov wrote:

On Sat, Jun 09, 2012 at 11:48:29AM +0200, carlopmart wrote:

Hi all,

  How can I disable sndiod process?? I have configured under rc.conf:



the recommended way to disable it by adding:

sndiod_flags=NO

in /etc/rc.conf.local


sndiod_flags=NO

  but every time host is rebooted, sndiod starts ... Why??


indeed, it shouldn't start. May be you've multiple sndiod_flags
definitions, or your setting is overriden in rc.conf.local or
whatever else.

-- Alexandre


Nop, I don't have a rc.conf.local file ..



so, just do:

echo 'sndiod_flags=NO'/etc/rc.conf.local

see rc.conf(5) man page as well.

-- Alexandre


Ok, I have restored original rc.conf file, and created rc.conf.local with my 
options ... and works.

But then a doubt emerges. What files are not recommended to touch between 
upgrades? Where can I found this info??


You didn't find this?

http://www.openbsd.org/faq/faq10.html

• /etc/rc.conf - Configuration file used by /etc/rc to set startup parameters 
for the system. Should not be edited.
• /etc/rc.conf.local - Configuration file that overrides settings in 
/etc/rc.conf so you don't have to touch /etc/rc.conf itself, which is important 
when upgrading your system.



Yes I see this previosuly ... But exists another file apart of rc.conf??


--
CL Martinez
carlopmart {at} gmail {d0t} com



Re: Is not possible to disable sndiod process??

2012-06-10 Thread Tomas Bodzar
On Sun, Jun 10, 2012 at 11:51 AM, carlopmart carlopm...@gmail.com wrote:
 On 06/10/2012 11:41 AM, Eric Furman wrote:

 Stop reading HOWTOS on the Internet.
 Read an actual book on UNIX.
 (UNIX not Linux. there is a difference)
 (GNU is not UNIX)
 (No truer words have been spoken)
 This stuff is UNIX 101.
 Because it is UNIX 101 is the reason the replies
 you have gotten are either non existent or
 dismissive. However, you have been led in the
 right direction. Read man pages. If you don't
 understand the consequences of editing a
 config file then don't edit them.
 Stop reading HOWTOS.
 They do not lead to understanding.


 Sorry?? What howtos?? Whos is speaking about howtos??

It's obvious that you were not reading FAQ/man pages, because you
modified files which are not supposed to be modified because of
experience from some other OS or because you were reading some howto
install OpenBSD/Linux/BSD/Unix somewhere on the web,



Re: Is not possible to disable sndiod process??

2012-06-10 Thread Tomas Bodzar
On Sun, Jun 10, 2012 at 11:50 AM, carlopmart carlopm...@gmail.com wrote:
 On 06/10/2012 10:46 AM, Richard Toohey wrote:

 On 10/06/2012, at 8:25 PM, carlopmart wrote:

 On 06/09/2012 12:56 PM, Alexandre Ratchov wrote:

 On Sat, Jun 09, 2012 at 12:36:19PM +0200, carlopmart wrote:

 On 06/09/2012 12:21 PM, Alexandre Ratchov wrote:

 On Sat, Jun 09, 2012 at 11:48:29AM +0200, carlopmart wrote:

 Hi all,

  How can I disable sndiod process?? I have configured under rc.conf:


 the recommended way to disable it by adding:

 sndiod_flags=NO

 in /etc/rc.conf.local

 sndiod_flags=NO

  but every time host is rebooted, sndiod starts ... Why??


 indeed, it shouldn't start. May be you've multiple sndiod_flags
 definitions, or your setting is overriden in rc.conf.local or
 whatever else.

 -- Alexandre


 Nop, I don't have a rc.conf.local file ..


 so, just do:

        echo 'sndiod_flags=NO'/etc/rc.conf.local

 see rc.conf(5) man page as well.

 -- Alexandre


 Ok, I have restored original rc.conf file, and created rc.conf.local with
 my options ... and works.

 But then a doubt emerges. What files are not recommended to touch between
 upgrades? Where can I found this info??


 You didn't find this?

 http://www.openbsd.org/faq/faq10.html

 • /etc/rc.conf - Configuration file used by /etc/rc to set startup
 parameters for the system. Should not be edited.
 • /etc/rc.conf.local - Configuration file that overrides settings in
 /etc/rc.conf so you don't have to touch /etc/rc.conf itself, which is
 important when upgrading your system.


 Yes I see this previosuly ... But exists another file apart of rc.conf??

Everything is in man rc on OpenBSD. On other systems it may differ
(and differ on a lot of them) so you need to read their docs.




 --
 CL Martinez
 carlopmart {at} gmail {d0t} com



Re: Is not possible to disable sndiod process??

2012-06-10 Thread carlopmart

On 06/10/2012 12:45 PM, Tomas Bodzar wrote:

On Sun, Jun 10, 2012 at 11:50 AM, carlopmartcarlopm...@gmail.com  wrote:

On 06/10/2012 10:46 AM, Richard Toohey wrote:


On 10/06/2012, at 8:25 PM, carlopmart wrote:


On 06/09/2012 12:56 PM, Alexandre Ratchov wrote:


On Sat, Jun 09, 2012 at 12:36:19PM +0200, carlopmart wrote:


On 06/09/2012 12:21 PM, Alexandre Ratchov wrote:


On Sat, Jun 09, 2012 at 11:48:29AM +0200, carlopmart wrote:


Hi all,

  How can I disable sndiod process?? I have configured under rc.conf:



the recommended way to disable it by adding:

sndiod_flags=NO

in /etc/rc.conf.local


sndiod_flags=NO

  but every time host is rebooted, sndiod starts ... Why??



indeed, it shouldn't start. May be you've multiple sndiod_flags
definitions, or your setting is overriden in rc.conf.local or
whatever else.

-- Alexandre



Nop, I don't have a rc.conf.local file ..



so, just do:

echo 'sndiod_flags=NO'/etc/rc.conf.local

see rc.conf(5) man page as well.

-- Alexandre



Ok, I have restored original rc.conf file, and created rc.conf.local with
my options ... and works.

But then a doubt emerges. What files are not recommended to touch between
upgrades? Where can I found this info??



You didn't find this?

http://www.openbsd.org/faq/faq10.html

• /etc/rc.conf - Configuration file used by /etc/rc to set startup
parameters for the system. Should not be edited.
• /etc/rc.conf.local - Configuration file that overrides settings in
/etc/rc.conf so you don't have to touch /etc/rc.conf itself, which is
important when upgrading your system.



Yes I see this previosuly ... But exists another file apart of rc.conf??


Everything is in man rc on OpenBSD. On other systems it may differ
(and differ on a lot of them) so you need to read their docs.



Ok, I will try to explian: I have used OpenBSD until 4.0 version .. 
After this, I have to use another OSes to accomplish my needs (freebsd, 
solaris, AIX, linux, windows server, etc)... Until now, that I can use 
OpenBSD another time ...


In those days (versions 2.x and 3.x until 4.0 version) you can modify 
rc.conf for soft base and use rc.conf.local (if I remember well in 3.x 
versions) for local processes,and faq recomends to do this in this way 
... and in man page it doesn't says nothing about Configuration file 
used by /etc/rc to set startup parameters for the system. Should not be 
edited in those days ...


Yes, maybe I need to update my knowledge about OpenBSD, but I think it 
is normal for a person who had previously used, that the configuration 
of rc.conf went in the same manner (without having to read the man 
page). Or not?


After all is not too complex to understand how rc.conf works.
Another thing is how I need to configure pf rules ...

--
CL Martinez
carlopmart {at} gmail {d0t} com



Re: Is not possible to disable sndiod process??

2012-06-10 Thread Jan Stary
 Ok, I have restored original rc.conf file, and created rc.conf.local with
 my options ... and works.
 
 But then a doubt emerges. What files are not recommended to touch between
 upgrades? Where can I found this info??
 
 http://www.openbsd.org/faq/faq10.html
 
 ??? /etc/rc.conf - Configuration file used by /etc/rc to set startup
 parameters for the system. Should not be edited.
 ??? /etc/rc.conf.local - Configuration file that overrides settings in
 /etc/rc.conf so you don't have to touch /etc/rc.conf itself, which is
 important when upgrading your system.
 
 
 Yes I see this previosuly ... But exists another file apart of rc.conf??
 
 Everything is in man rc on OpenBSD. On other systems it may differ
 (and differ on a lot of them) so you need to read their docs.
 
 Ok, I will try to explian: I have used OpenBSD until 4.0 version ..
 After this, I have to use another OSes to accomplish my needs
 (freebsd, solaris, AIX, linux, windows server, etc)... Until now,
 that I can use OpenBSD another time ...
 
 In those days (versions 2.x and 3.x until 4.0 version) you can
 modify rc.conf for soft base and use rc.conf.local (if I remember
 well in 3.x versions) for local processes,and faq recomends to do
 this in this way ... and in man page it doesn't says nothing about
 Configuration file used by /etc/rc to set startup parameters for
 the system. Should not be edited in those days ...

Every version of the rc.conf manpage between 2.7 and 4.0
advises you to leave it alone and use rc.conf.local instead
http://www.openbsd.org/cgi-bin/man.cgi?query=rc.confapropos=0sektion=0manpath=OpenBSD+2.7arch=i386format=html

 Yes, maybe I need to update my knowledge about OpenBSD, but I think
 it is normal for a person who had previously used, that the
 configuration of rc.conf went in the same manner (without having to
 read the man page). Or not?

No, it is not normal to assume that things are the same as six years ago.
(But in this case they are: use rc.conf.local instead.)



Re: Is not possible to disable sndiod process??

2012-06-10 Thread carlopmart

On 06/10/2012 04:34 PM, Jan Stary wrote:

Ok, I have restored original rc.conf file, and created rc.conf.local with
my options ... and works.

But then a doubt emerges. What files are not recommended to touch between
upgrades? Where can I found this info??


http://www.openbsd.org/faq/faq10.html

??? /etc/rc.conf - Configuration file used by /etc/rc to set startup
parameters for the system. Should not be edited.
??? /etc/rc.conf.local - Configuration file that overrides settings in
/etc/rc.conf so you don't have to touch /etc/rc.conf itself, which is
important when upgrading your system.



Yes I see this previosuly ... But exists another file apart of rc.conf??


Everything is in man rc on OpenBSD. On other systems it may differ
(and differ on a lot of them) so you need to read their docs.


Ok, I will try to explian: I have used OpenBSD until 4.0 version ..
After this, I have to use another OSes to accomplish my needs
(freebsd, solaris, AIX, linux, windows server, etc)... Until now,
that I can use OpenBSD another time ...

In those days (versions 2.x and 3.x until 4.0 version) you can
modify rc.conf for soft base and use rc.conf.local (if I remember
well in 3.x versions) for local processes,and faq recomends to do
this in this way ... and in man page it doesn't says nothing about
Configuration file used by /etc/rc to set startup parameters for
the system. Should not be edited in those days ...


Every version of the rc.conf manpage between 2.7 and 4.0
advises you to leave it alone and use rc.conf.local instead
http://www.openbsd.org/cgi-bin/man.cgi?query=rc.confapropos=0sektion=0manpath=OpenBSD+2.7arch=i386format=html


Where says here Should not be edited.??? Says: As an alternative, it 
is also possible to leave the /etc/rc.conf file un-touched, and instead 
create and edit a new /etc/rc.conf.local file. Variables set in this 
file will override variables previously set in /etc/rc.conf. ... 
Nothing about problems between upgrades ...


and I repeat In those days (versions 2.x and 3.x until 4.0 version) you 
can modify rc.conf for soft base and use rc.conf.local for local 
processes,and faq recomends to do this in this way ...





Yes, maybe I need to update my knowledge about OpenBSD, but I think
it is normal for a person who had previously used, that the
configuration of rc.conf went in the same manner (without having to
read the man page). Or not?


No, it is not normal to assume that things are the same as six years ago.
(But in this case they are: use rc.conf.local instead.)


Correct, but I didn't expect this type of change in rc.conf ...



--
CL Martinez
carlopmart {at} gmail {d0t} com



Re: Is not possible to disable sndiod process??

2012-06-10 Thread Henning Brauer
* carlopmart carlopm...@gmail.com [2012-06-10 16:47]:
 On 06/10/2012 04:34 PM, Jan Stary wrote:
 Every version of the rc.conf manpage between 2.7 and 4.0
 advises you to leave it alone and use rc.conf.local instead
 http://www.openbsd.org/cgi-bin/man.cgi?query=rc.confapropos=0sektion=0manpath=OpenBSD+2.7arch=i386format=html
 Where says here Should not be edited.??? Says: As an alternative,
 it is also possible to leave the /etc/rc.conf file un-touched, and
 instead create and edit a new /etc/rc.conf.local file. Variables set
 in this file will override variables previously set in
 /etc/rc.conf. ... Nothing about problems between upgrades ...

this hs indeed been made crystal clear later and was a little
ambiguous back then.

 and I repeat In those days (versions 2.x and 3.x until 4.0 version)
 you can modify rc.conf for soft base and use rc.conf.local for local
 processes,and faq recomends to do this in this way ...

I am almost certain the FAQ never recommended anything remotely like
that.

rc.local was the standard way to start non-base daemons until rc.d. you
seem to mix rc.local and rc.conf.local up.

 Yes, maybe I need to update my knowledge about OpenBSD, but I think
 it is normal for a person who had previously used, that the
 configuration of rc.conf went in the same manner (without having to
 read the man page). Or not?
 
 No, it is not normal to assume that things are the same as six years ago.
 (But in this case they are: use rc.conf.local instead.)
 Correct, but I didn't expect this type of change in rc.conf ...

can you get over it now please instead of spamming the list with your
attempts to find someone but yourself to blame for your screwup? shit
happens, learn from it, done. 

-- 
Henning Brauer, h...@bsws.de, henn...@openbsd.org
BS Web Services, http://bsws.de, Full-Service ISP
Secure Hosting, Mail and DNS Services. Dedicated Servers, Root to Fully Managed
Henning Brauer Consulting, http://henningbrauer.com/



Re: Is not possible to disable sndiod process??

2012-06-10 Thread carlopmart

On 06/10/2012 05:40 PM, Henning Brauer wrote:

can you get over it now please instead of spamming the list with your
attempts to find someone but yourself to blame for your screwup? shit
happens, learn from it, done.


Sorry, but I am not trying to spam this list ... I have made a simple 
question about a config file ... nothing more ...


--
CL Martinez
carlopmart {at} gmail {d0t} com



Re: Is not possible to disable sndiod process??

2012-06-10 Thread Kevin Chadwick
On Sun, 10 Jun 2012 12:56:22 +0200
carlopmart wrote:

 Yes, maybe I need to update my knowledge about OpenBSD, but I think it 
 is normal for a person who had previously used, that the configuration 
 of rc.conf went in the same manner (without having to read the man 
 page). Or not?

Why not, there is only one man page per file rather than on linux having
to decipher apropos ouput. Compare sh and openssl man pages on OpenBSD
and linux. Then look at systemds docs and the monstrosity polkit, what
a mess. Unforgiveable for a security management daemon.

The ID line at the top of the config files on OpenBSD (which sysmerge
uses by the way) is also very useful in atleast terms of how often any
file is edited.



Is not possible to disable sndiod process??

2012-06-09 Thread carlopmart

Hi all,

 How can I disable sndiod process?? I have configured under rc.conf:

sndiod_flags=NO

 but every time host is rebooted, sndiod starts ... Why??

Thanks.
--
CL Martinez
carlopmart {at} gmail {d0t} com



Re: Is not possible to disable sndiod process??

2012-06-09 Thread Jérémie Courrèges-Anglas
carlopmart carlopm...@gmail.com writes:

 Hi all,

  How can I disable sndiod process?? I have configured under rc.conf:

 sndiod_flags=NO

rc.conf isn't meant to be edited.  use rc.conf.local

  but every time host is rebooted, sndiod starts ... Why??

 Thanks.

Without more details and given the non-standard setup...
Here's a guess: you may have aucat_flags in rc.conf.local that override
your non-standard changes.

--
Jérémie Courrèges-Anglas
GPG fingerprint: 61DB D9A0 00A4 67CF 2A90 8961 6191 8FBF 06A1 1494



Re: Is not possible to disable sndiod process??

2012-06-09 Thread Alexandre Ratchov
On Sat, Jun 09, 2012 at 11:48:29AM +0200, carlopmart wrote:
 Hi all,
 
  How can I disable sndiod process?? I have configured under rc.conf:
 

the recommended way to disable it by adding:

sndiod_flags=NO

in /etc/rc.conf.local

 sndiod_flags=NO
 
  but every time host is rebooted, sndiod starts ... Why??

indeed, it shouldn't start. May be you've multiple sndiod_flags
definitions, or your setting is overriden in rc.conf.local or
whatever else.

-- Alexandre



Re: Is not possible to disable sndiod process??

2012-06-09 Thread carlopmart

On 06/09/2012 12:19 PM, Jérémie Courrèges-Anglas wrote:

carlopmartcarlopm...@gmail.com  writes:


Hi all,

  How can I disable sndiod process?? I have configured under rc.conf:

sndiod_flags=NO


rc.conf isn't meant to be edited.  use rc.conf.local


Uhmm why??

I use rc.conf.local for daemons or options outside of openbsd soft base ...




  but every time host is rebooted, sndiod starts ... Why??

Thanks.


Without more details and given the non-standard setup...


What details do you need?? I use this openbsd box as a fw and I wnat ot 
disable sndiod process  ...



Here's a guess: you may have aucat_flags in rc.conf.local that override
your non-standard changes.



But there is not options for aucat_flags under rc.conf ... or maybe I 
only need to put under rc.conf.local aucat_flags=NO??




--
CL Martinez
carlopmart {at} gmail {d0t} com



Re: Is not possible to disable sndiod process??

2012-06-09 Thread carlopmart

On 06/09/2012 12:21 PM, Alexandre Ratchov wrote:

On Sat, Jun 09, 2012 at 11:48:29AM +0200, carlopmart wrote:

Hi all,

  How can I disable sndiod process?? I have configured under rc.conf:



the recommended way to disable it by adding:

sndiod_flags=NO

in /etc/rc.conf.local


sndiod_flags=NO

  but every time host is rebooted, sndiod starts ... Why??


indeed, it shouldn't start. May be you've multiple sndiod_flags
definitions, or your setting is overriden in rc.conf.local or
whatever else.

-- Alexandre


Nop, I don't have a rc.conf.local file ..

--
CL Martinez
carlopmart {at} gmail {d0t} com



Re: Is not possible to disable sndiod process??

2012-06-09 Thread Antoine Jacoutot
On Sat, Jun 09, 2012 at 11:48:29AM +0200, carlopmart wrote:
 Hi all,
 
  How can I disable sndiod process?? I have configured under rc.conf:
 
 sndiod_flags=NO
 
  but every time host is rebooted, sndiod starts ... Why??

Because you should not touch rc.conf; sndiod_flags _must_ be added to 
rc.conf.local.
If you don't understand why, then have a look at the backward compat code in 
/etc/rc.conf.

Also, from rc.conf(8):
It is advisable to leave rc.conf untouched, and instead create and edit a
new rc.conf.local file.

-- 
Antoine



Re: Is not possible to disable sndiod process??

2012-06-09 Thread Alexandre Ratchov
On Sat, Jun 09, 2012 at 12:35:07PM +0200, carlopmart wrote:
 On 06/09/2012 12:19 PM, J??r??mie Courr??ges-Anglas wrote:
 carlopmartcarlopm...@gmail.com  writes:
 
 Hi all,
 
   How can I disable sndiod process?? I have configured under rc.conf:
 
 sndiod_flags=NO
 
 rc.conf isn't meant to be edited.  use rc.conf.local
 
 Uhmm why??
 

For instance to avoid merges during upgrade; rc.conf contains the
default configuration, and rc.conf.local contains local changes to
the default configuration.

 I use rc.conf.local for daemons or options outside of openbsd soft base ...
 

it can be used for the base system as well.

 
   but every time host is rebooted, sndiod starts ... Why??
 
 Thanks.
 
 Without more details and given the non-standard setup...
 
 What details do you need?? I use this openbsd box as a fw and I wnat
 ot disable sndiod process  ...

Generally you don't need to disable sndiod. As long it's not used
it consumes less resources than getty, which we don't disable
either.

-- Alexandre



Re: Is not possible to disable sndiod process??

2012-06-09 Thread Alexandre Ratchov
On Sat, Jun 09, 2012 at 12:36:19PM +0200, carlopmart wrote:
 On 06/09/2012 12:21 PM, Alexandre Ratchov wrote:
 On Sat, Jun 09, 2012 at 11:48:29AM +0200, carlopmart wrote:
 Hi all,
 
   How can I disable sndiod process?? I have configured under rc.conf:
 
 
 the recommended way to disable it by adding:
 
 sndiod_flags=NO
 
 in /etc/rc.conf.local
 
 sndiod_flags=NO
 
   but every time host is rebooted, sndiod starts ... Why??
 
 indeed, it shouldn't start. May be you've multiple sndiod_flags
 definitions, or your setting is overriden in rc.conf.local or
 whatever else.
 
 -- Alexandre
 
 Nop, I don't have a rc.conf.local file ..
 

so, just do:

echo 'sndiod_flags=NO' /etc/rc.conf.local

see rc.conf(5) man page as well.

-- Alexandre



Re: Is not possible to disable sndiod process??

2012-06-09 Thread Remco
carlopmart wrote:

 On 06/09/2012 12:19 PM, Jérémie Courrèges-Anglas wrote:
 carlopmartcarlopm...@gmail.com  writes:

 Hi all,

   How can I disable sndiod process?? I have configured under rc.conf:

 sndiod_flags=NO

 rc.conf isn't meant to be edited.  use rc.conf.local
 
 Uhmm why??
 
 I use rc.conf.local for daemons or options outside of openbsd soft base
 ...
 

it's simple:
- read rc.conf(8) for a better understanding
(or study the /etc/rc.conf script and try to figure out what could cause
your sndiod_flags to get lost, after all, if you edit this script you
should also be able to figure out the consequences of your actions, since
it's advised to NOT edit this file)
- (older) aucat_flags could interfere with sndiod_flags but if you haven't
got a rc.conf.local this is probably not your problem
- follow Alexandre's advice



Re: Is not possible to disable sndiod process??

2012-06-09 Thread Erling Westenvik
On Sat, Jun 09, 2012 at 12:35:07PM +0200, carlopmart wrote:
 On 06/09/2012 12:19 PM, Jérémie Courrèges-Anglas wrote:
 rc.conf isn't meant to be edited.  use rc.conf.local
 
 Uhmm why??

Because rc.conf(8) states that

 It is advisable to leave rc.conf untouched, and instead create and
 edit a new rc.conf.local file.  Variables set in this file will
 override variables previously set in rc.conf.

and you should always follow official recommandations before 
personal preferences, even if it seem ambiguous?

-- 
Cheers,
Erling



Re: Is not possible to disable sndiod process??

2012-06-09 Thread Kevin Chadwick
On Sat, 09 Jun 2012 12:35:07 +0200
carlopmart wrote:

 Uhmm why??
 
 I use rc.conf.local for daemons or options outside of openbsd soft base ...

In addition to what others have said it keep your changes easily
identified.

If you put 

. /etc/rc.conf.localbase in rc.conf.local you could seperate out what
you currently have in rc.local wirth rc.conf.localbase having the
override ability in this case.

Personally I don't see why except maybe delegating editing to certain
users. You could just have a section marked by comments in
rc.conf.local