Re: Minimally painful mail client for rich (spit!) messages

2011-02-27 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Sorry for not snipping more, all the old text is really needed to
understand the answer.

Jan Stary wrote on Fri, Feb 25, 2011 at 02:36:52PM +0100:
 On Feb 24 10:57:26, Joachim Schipper wrote:
 On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 10:11:22AM +0100, Jan Stary wrote:
 On Feb 09 17:56:59, Ingo Schwarze wrote:

 text/html; /usr/bin/lynx -stdin -force_html -dump ; copiousoutput
[...]

 I have been using (variations of) these for years in my ~/.mailcap,
 which made mutt(1) launch lynx(1) on the html attachments. Since
 I upgraded to 
 
 OpenBSD 4.8-current (GENERIC) #448: Fri Oct 22 09:43:05 MDT 2010
 dera...@i386.openbsd.org:/usr/src/sys/arch/i386/compile/GENERIC
 
 with mutt-1.5.21p0, it no longer works.
 (Should I take this to ports?)
 
 Trying to view a HTML attachment from the attachment menu
 results in the attachment being displayed by mutt's internal
 viewer. I stripped my ~/.mailcap to the minimum suggested by
 http://www.mutt.org/doc/manual/manual-5.html#ss5.3
 
 text/html; lynx %s ; nametemplate=%s.html
 
 and even that does not work. It seems like my ~/.mailcap is ignored.
 (Copying to /etc/mailcap doesn't seem to make any difference.)
 
 Does anyone have a hint of what could be causing this?

 text/html is usually in Mutt's auto_view list; auto_view stuff is
 automatically piped through any viewer with copiousoutput set,

 Yes, but that's not the issue here. I don't want the html attachments to
 be autoviewed; in fact, I have 'set implicit_autoview=no' in ~/.muttrc
 
 whereas non-copiousoutput entries are only used if you explicitly open it
 ('v' - select item - 'm').

 This is what I want; and in fact, it does work, when I explicitly open
 them with 'v' - select  - 'm'; until now,, I have been explicitly
 opening the attachments I wanted to view with 'v' - select - Enter.
 That's what stooped working; opening them with 'm' runs the correct
 (~/.mailcap) lynx command over them.

Reading manual.txt, i understand this is intended behaviour.
If i understand correctly, with set implicit_autoview=no,
the auto_view list is used for two purposes:
 - When viewing the message as a whole, to decide whether a given
   MIME part should be displayed inline after running it through
   the MIME handler,
 - and from the view menu, when selecting a part with Enter
   (as opposed to selecting it with m), to decide whether to
   use the MIME handler or to display it as raw text using the
   internal pager.
So yes, when you have neither set implicit_autoview=yes nor
auto_view text/html, you have to type v m to start lynx.

In case this was different in old versions of mutt, it may either
have been a bug or an intentional change of behaviour.

Citations from manual.txt:

  3.110. implicit_autoview
  [...]
   If set to yes, mutt will look for a mailcap entry with the
   copiousoutput flag set for every MIME attachment it doesn't have an
   internal viewer defined for. If such an entry is found, mutt will use
   the viewer defined in that entry to convert the body part to text form.

So conversely, without implicit_autoview, it will only look for mailcap
entries for MIME types listed in auto_view, or when explicitely
requested with v m.

  4. MIME Autoview
  [...]
   In addition to explicitly telling Mutt to view an attachment with the
   MIME viewer defined in the mailcap file from the attachments menu, Mutt
   has support for automatically viewing MIME attachments while in the
   pager.

That's what you ask for when pressing v Enter, so without auto_view,
you will get raw HTML tags displayed in the internal parser, bacause
the MIME handler will not be called.

Yours,
  Ingo



Re: Minimally painful mail client for rich (spit!) messages

2011-02-27 Thread Jan Stary
On Feb 27 14:02:11, Ingo Schwarze wrote:
 Sorry for not snipping more, all the old text is really needed to
 understand the answer.
 
 Jan Stary wrote on Fri, Feb 25, 2011 at 02:36:52PM +0100:
  On Feb 24 10:57:26, Joachim Schipper wrote:
  On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 10:11:22AM +0100, Jan Stary wrote:
  On Feb 09 17:56:59, Ingo Schwarze wrote:
 
  text/html; /usr/bin/lynx -stdin -force_html -dump ; copiousoutput
 [...]
 
  I have been using (variations of) these for years in my ~/.mailcap,
  which made mutt(1) launch lynx(1) on the html attachments. Since
  I upgraded to 
  
  OpenBSD 4.8-current (GENERIC) #448: Fri Oct 22 09:43:05 MDT 2010
  dera...@i386.openbsd.org:/usr/src/sys/arch/i386/compile/GENERIC
  
  with mutt-1.5.21p0, it no longer works.
  (Should I take this to ports?)
  
  Trying to view a HTML attachment from the attachment menu
  results in the attachment being displayed by mutt's internal
  viewer. I stripped my ~/.mailcap to the minimum suggested by
  http://www.mutt.org/doc/manual/manual-5.html#ss5.3
  
text/html; lynx %s ; nametemplate=%s.html
  
  and even that does not work. It seems like my ~/.mailcap is ignored.
  (Copying to /etc/mailcap doesn't seem to make any difference.)
  
  Does anyone have a hint of what could be causing this?
 
  text/html is usually in Mutt's auto_view list; auto_view stuff is
  automatically piped through any viewer with copiousoutput set,
 
  Yes, but that's not the issue here. I don't want the html attachments to
  be autoviewed; in fact, I have 'set implicit_autoview=no' in ~/.muttrc
  
  whereas non-copiousoutput entries are only used if you explicitly open it
  ('v' - select item - 'm').
 
  This is what I want; and in fact, it does work, when I explicitly open
  them with 'v' - select  - 'm'; until now,, I have been explicitly
  opening the attachments I wanted to view with 'v' - select - Enter.
  That's what stooped working; opening them with 'm' runs the correct
  (~/.mailcap) lynx command over them.
 
 Reading manual.txt, i understand this is intended behaviour.
 If i understand correctly, with set implicit_autoview=no,
 the auto_view list is used for two purposes:
  - When viewing the message as a whole, to decide whether a given
MIME part should be displayed inline after running it through
the MIME handler,
  - and from the view menu, when selecting a part with Enter
(as opposed to selecting it with m), to decide whether to
use the MIME handler or to display it as raw text using the
internal pager.
 So yes, when you have neither set implicit_autoview=yes nor
 auto_view text/html, you have to type v m to start lynx.
 
 In case this was different in old versions of mutt, it may either
 have been a bug or an intentional change of behaviour.

I haven't changed my mutt configuration, so it was probably
an intentional change of behaviour.

Anyway, now that I have read about the MIME chapter again,
I am in fact using auto_view for text/html with (.muttrc)

set implicit_autoview=no
auto_view text/html
alternative_order text/plain text/enriched

and (.mailcap)

text/html ; lynx -assume_charset=iso-8859-2 %s ; nametemplate=%s.html
text/html ; lynx -assume_charset=iso-8859-2 -dump -nolist -force_html %s ; \
nametemplate=%s.html ; copiousoutput


   3.110. implicit_autoview
   [...]
If set to yes, mutt will look for a mailcap entry with the
copiousoutput flag set for every MIME attachment it doesn't have an
internal viewer defined for. If such an entry is found, mutt will use
the viewer defined in that entry to convert the body part to text form.
 
 So conversely, without implicit_autoview, it will only look for mailcap
 entries for MIME types listed in auto_view, or when explicitely
 requested with v m.

Yes; this is what I am using now.

   4. MIME Autoview
   [...]
In addition to explicitly telling Mutt to view an attachment with the
MIME viewer defined in the mailcap file from the attachments menu, Mutt
has support for automatically viewing MIME attachments while in the
pager.
 
 That's what you ask for when pressing v Enter, so without auto_view,
 you will get raw HTML tags displayed in the internal parser, bacause
 the MIME handler will not be called.

Yes; your explanation is correct.

Thank you for your time

Jan



Re: Minimally painful mail client for rich (spit!) messages

2011-02-25 Thread Denny White
 On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 10:11:22AM +0100, Jan Stary spoke thusly:
 On Feb 09 17:56:59, Ingo Schwarze wrote:
  text/html; /usr/bin/lynx -stdin -force_html -dump ; copiousoutput
 
 On Feb 09 10:59:54, Marco Peereboom wrote:
  text/html; /usr/local/bin/links -dump '%s'; copiousoutput; description=HTML 
  Text; na metemplate=%s.html
 
 On Feb 09 23:12:27, Igor Zinovik wrote:
  text/html   ; lynx -force_html -assume_charset=koi8-r 
  -assume_unrec_charset=utf8 -dump %s ; copiousoutput; nametemplate=%s.html
 
 
 I have been using (variations of) these for years in my ~/.mailcap,
 which made mutt(1) launch lynx(1) on the html attachments. Since
 I upgraded to 
 
 OpenBSD 4.8-current (GENERIC) #448: Fri Oct 22 09:43:05 MDT 2010
 dera...@i386.openbsd.org:/usr/src/sys/arch/i386/compile/GENERIC
 
 with mutt-1.5.21p0, it no longer works.
 (Should I take this to ports?)
 
 Trying to view a HTML attachment from the attachment menu
 results in the attachment being displayed by mutt's internal
 viewer. I stripped my ~/.mailcap to the minimum suggested by
 http://www.mutt.org/doc/manual/manual-5.html#ss5.3
 
   text/html; lynx %s ; nametemplate=%s.html
 
 and even that does not work. It seems like my ~/.mailcap is ignored.
 (Copying to /etc/mailcap doesn't seem to make any difference.)
 
 Does anyone have a hint of what could be causing this?
 
   Thank you for your time.
 
   Jan

Possibly completely offbase here. Can't see your .muttrc so don't know
if you have the following in it or not:

set mailcap_path=~/.mailcap

or whatever the path is to the .mailcap you want to use. Possibly the
.mailcap entry is commented out in your .muttrc file. Pretty sure it
is commented out by default in the sample.mailcap file.


Denny White


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Re: Minimally painful mail client for rich (spit!) messages

2011-02-25 Thread Jan Stary
On Feb 24 10:57:26, Joachim Schipper wrote:
 On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 10:11:22AM +0100, Jan Stary wrote:
  On Feb 09 17:56:59, Ingo Schwarze wrote:
   text/html; /usr/bin/lynx -stdin -force_html -dump ; copiousoutput
  
  On Feb 09 10:59:54, Marco Peereboom wrote:
   text/html; /usr/local/bin/links -dump '%s'; copiousoutput; 
   description=HTML Text; na metemplate=%s.html
  
  On Feb 09 23:12:27, Igor Zinovik wrote:
   text/html ; lynx -force_html -assume_charset=koi8-r 
   -assume_unrec_charset=utf8 -dump %s ; copiousoutput; nametemplate=%s.html
 
  I have been using (variations of) these for years in my ~/.mailcap,
  which made mutt(1) launch lynx(1) on the html attachments. Since
  I upgraded to 
  
  OpenBSD 4.8-current (GENERIC) #448: Fri Oct 22 09:43:05 MDT 2010
  dera...@i386.openbsd.org:/usr/src/sys/arch/i386/compile/GENERIC
  
  with mutt-1.5.21p0, it no longer works.
  (Should I take this to ports?)
  
  Trying to view a HTML attachment from the attachment menu
  results in the attachment being displayed by mutt's internal
  viewer. I stripped my ~/.mailcap to the minimum suggested by
  http://www.mutt.org/doc/manual/manual-5.html#ss5.3
  
  text/html; lynx %s ; nametemplate=%s.html
  
  and even that does not work. It seems like my ~/.mailcap is ignored.
  (Copying to /etc/mailcap doesn't seem to make any difference.)
  
  Does anyone have a hint of what could be causing this?
 
 text/html is usually in Mutt's auto_view list; auto_view stuff is
 automatically piped through any viewer with copiousoutput set,

Yes, but that's not the issue here. I don't want the html attachments to
be autoviewed; in fact, I have 'set implicit_autoview=no' in ~/.muttrc

 whereas non-copiousoutput entries are only used if you explicitly open it
 ('v' - select item - 'm').

This is what I want; and in fact, it does work, when I explicitly open
them with 'v' - select  - 'm'; until now,, I have been explicitly
opening the attachments I wanted to view with 'v' - select - Enter.
That's what stooped working; opening them with 'm' runs the correct
(~/.mailcap) lynx command over them.

Thank you!

Jan



Re: Minimally painful mail client for rich (spit!) messages

2011-02-24 Thread Jan Stary
On Feb 09 17:56:59, Ingo Schwarze wrote:
 text/html; /usr/bin/lynx -stdin -force_html -dump ; copiousoutput

On Feb 09 10:59:54, Marco Peereboom wrote:
 text/html; /usr/local/bin/links -dump '%s'; copiousoutput; description=HTML 
 Text; na metemplate=%s.html

On Feb 09 23:12:27, Igor Zinovik wrote:
 text/html ; lynx -force_html -assume_charset=koi8-r 
 -assume_unrec_charset=utf8 -dump %s ; copiousoutput; nametemplate=%s.html


I have been using (variations of) these for years in my ~/.mailcap,
which made mutt(1) launch lynx(1) on the html attachments. Since
I upgraded to 

OpenBSD 4.8-current (GENERIC) #448: Fri Oct 22 09:43:05 MDT 2010
dera...@i386.openbsd.org:/usr/src/sys/arch/i386/compile/GENERIC

with mutt-1.5.21p0, it no longer works.
(Should I take this to ports?)

Trying to view a HTML attachment from the attachment menu
results in the attachment being displayed by mutt's internal
viewer. I stripped my ~/.mailcap to the minimum suggested by
http://www.mutt.org/doc/manual/manual-5.html#ss5.3

text/html; lynx %s ; nametemplate=%s.html

and even that does not work. It seems like my ~/.mailcap is ignored.
(Copying to /etc/mailcap doesn't seem to make any difference.)

Does anyone have a hint of what could be causing this?

Thank you for your time.

Jan



Re: Minimally painful mail client for rich (spit!) messages

2011-02-24 Thread Joachim Schipper
On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 10:11:22AM +0100, Jan Stary wrote:
 On Feb 09 17:56:59, Ingo Schwarze wrote:
  text/html; /usr/bin/lynx -stdin -force_html -dump ; copiousoutput
 
 On Feb 09 10:59:54, Marco Peereboom wrote:
  text/html; /usr/local/bin/links -dump '%s'; copiousoutput; description=HTML 
  Text; na metemplate=%s.html
 
 On Feb 09 23:12:27, Igor Zinovik wrote:
  text/html   ; lynx -force_html -assume_charset=koi8-r 
  -assume_unrec_charset=utf8 -dump %s ; copiousoutput; nametemplate=%s.html

 I have been using (variations of) these for years in my ~/.mailcap,
 which made mutt(1) launch lynx(1) on the html attachments. Since
 I upgraded to 
 
 OpenBSD 4.8-current (GENERIC) #448: Fri Oct 22 09:43:05 MDT 2010
 dera...@i386.openbsd.org:/usr/src/sys/arch/i386/compile/GENERIC
 
 with mutt-1.5.21p0, it no longer works.
 (Should I take this to ports?)
 
 Trying to view a HTML attachment from the attachment menu
 results in the attachment being displayed by mutt's internal
 viewer. I stripped my ~/.mailcap to the minimum suggested by
 http://www.mutt.org/doc/manual/manual-5.html#ss5.3
 
   text/html; lynx %s ; nametemplate=%s.html
 
 and even that does not work. It seems like my ~/.mailcap is ignored.
 (Copying to /etc/mailcap doesn't seem to make any difference.)
 
 Does anyone have a hint of what could be causing this?

text/html is usually in Mutt's auto_view list; auto_view stuff is
automatically piped through any viewer with copiousoutput set, whereas
non-copiousoutput entries are only used if you explicitly open it ('v'
- select item - 'm').

E.g. from my mailcap:

# Process HTML with firefox or w3m
text/html; firefox -a firefox -remote 'openurl(%s)' ; test=[ ! -z $DISPLAY ] 
 pgrep -xu `id -u` firefox-bin
text/html; firefox %s ; test=[ ! -z $DISPLAY ]
text/html; w3m %s ; nametemplate=%s.html
text/html; w3m -dump %s ; copiousoutput ; nametemplate=%s.html

When viewing HTML mail, it uses w3m -dump (auto_view, copiousoutput).

When opening ('m') HTML stuff, it uses:
* a running Firefox, if mutt is running under X and a running Firefox
  is available;
* otherwise, a new Firefox, if mutt is running under X;
* otherwise, w3m.

Joachim

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Re: Minimally painful mail client for rich (spit!) messages

2011-02-24 Thread Paul de Weerd
On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 10:57:26AM +0100, Joachim Schipper wrote:
|  and even that does not work. It seems like my ~/.mailcap is ignored.
|  (Copying to /etc/mailcap doesn't seem to make any difference.)
|  
|  Does anyone have a hint of what could be causing this?
| 
| text/html is usually in Mutt's auto_view list; auto_view stuff is
| automatically piped through any viewer with copiousoutput set, whereas
| non-copiousoutput entries are only used if you explicitly open it ('v'
| - select item - 'm').

See option implicit_autoview in muttrc(5).  I personally prefer to
have set implicit_autoview=no.

Paul 'WEiRD' de Weerd

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Minimally painful mail client for rich (spit!) messages

2011-02-09 Thread Peter N. M. Hansteen
During recent months I've joined some mailing lists with fairly good
signal to noise ratio on a specific topic, the only snag being that a
distressingly large number of otherwise sane messages have been
written using mail clients (fsvo) that by default bury the content in
rich formatting that makes it hard for old-style mail readers to
cope.

Telling people off for their choice of mail clients is not an option
(some at least have had that choice made for them), so as a workaround
I probably need to start looking around for a mail client that will
make reading Outlook and peers' output less painful.

Does such a beast exist, preferably among OpenBSD packages (as in, it
has to run on OpenBSD, but I can build locally if needs be)? 

I've tried and hated both Evolution and Thunderbird, but surely there
must be other choices?

- Peter
-- 
Peter N. M. Hansteen, member of the first RFC 1149 implementation team
http://bsdly.blogspot.com/ http://www.bsdly.net/ http://www.nuug.no/
Remember to set the evil bit on all malicious network traffic
delilah spamd[29949]: 85.152.224.147: disconnected after 42673 seconds.



Re: Minimally painful mail client for rich (spit!) messages

2011-02-09 Thread Oliver Peter
On Wed, Feb 09, 2011 at 05:38:38PM +0100, Peter N. M. Hansteen wrote:
 During recent months I've joined some mailing lists with fairly good
 signal to noise ratio on a specific topic, the only snag being that a
 distressingly large number of otherwise sane messages have been
 written using mail clients (fsvo) that by default bury the content in
 rich formatting that makes it hard for old-style mail readers to
 cope.
 
 Telling people off for their choice of mail clients is not an option
 (some at least have had that choice made for them), so as a workaround
 I probably need to start looking around for a mail client that will
 make reading Outlook and peers' output less painful.
 
 Does such a beast exist, preferably among OpenBSD packages (as in, it
 has to run on OpenBSD, but I can build locally if needs be)? 
 
 I've tried and hated both Evolution and Thunderbird, but surely there
 must be other choices?

Peter, does mutt (ports/mail/mutt/snapshot I recommend) count as 'old-style'
mail reader, too?  If so, it feels very modern to me and also is my choice
for 'heavy' mail reading.
If you are looking for some graphical client you may want to give clawsmail
a try (mail/claws-mail).



Re: Minimally painful mail client for rich (spit!) messages

2011-02-09 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Hi Peter,

Peter N. M. Hansteen wrote on Wed, Feb 09, 2011 at 05:38:38PM +0100:

 During recent months I've joined some mailing lists with fairly good
 signal to noise ratio on a specific topic, the only snag being that a
 distressingly large number of otherwise sane messages have been
 written using mail clients (fsvo) that by default bury the content in
 rich formatting that makes it hard for old-style mail readers to
 cope.

Here is what i currently use; in case that doesn't work for you,
you need to be more specific as to what rich formatting you are
talking about.

Yours,
  Ingo


schwarze@iris $ cat /etc/mailcap   
text/html; /usr/bin/lynx -stdin -force_html -dump ; copiousoutput
text/rtf; /usr/local/bin/unrtf --nopict --text %s ; copiousoutput
application/pdf; /usr/local/bin/pdftotext %s - ; copiousoutput
application/x-pdf; /usr/local/bin/pdftotext %s - ; copiousoutput
application/msword; /usr/local/bin/antiword - ; copiousoutput
application/x-shellscript; /bin/cat ; copiousoutput



Re: Minimally painful mail client for rich (spit!) messages

2011-02-09 Thread Marco Peereboom
Stuff crap like this in .mailcap
text/html; /usr/local/bin/links -dump '%s'; copiousoutput; description=HTML 
Text; na metemplate=%s.html
text/html; /usr/local/bin/links '%s'; needsterminal; description=HTML Text; 
nametemp late=%s.html

I had them for all kinds of things but can't find that file anymore.

Things like antiword and stuff help.  At one point I had about a
$random_file to ascii converter for about everything.

On Wed, Feb 09, 2011 at 05:38:38PM +0100, Peter N. M. Hansteen wrote:
 During recent months I've joined some mailing lists with fairly good
 signal to noise ratio on a specific topic, the only snag being that a
 distressingly large number of otherwise sane messages have been
 written using mail clients (fsvo) that by default bury the content in
 rich formatting that makes it hard for old-style mail readers to
 cope.
 
 Telling people off for their choice of mail clients is not an option
 (some at least have had that choice made for them), so as a workaround
 I probably need to start looking around for a mail client that will
 make reading Outlook and peers' output less painful.
 
 Does such a beast exist, preferably among OpenBSD packages (as in, it
 has to run on OpenBSD, but I can build locally if needs be)? 
 
 I've tried and hated both Evolution and Thunderbird, but surely there
 must be other choices?
 
 - Peter
 -- 
 Peter N. M. Hansteen, member of the first RFC 1149 implementation team
 http://bsdly.blogspot.com/ http://www.bsdly.net/ http://www.nuug.no/
 Remember to set the evil bit on all malicious network traffic
 delilah spamd[29949]: 85.152.224.147: disconnected after 42673 seconds.



Re: Minimally painful mail client for rich (spit!) messages

2011-02-09 Thread Amit Kulkarni
http://openports.se/mail/sylpheed

 Does such a beast exist, preferably among OpenBSD packages (as in, it
 has to run on OpenBSD, but I can build locally if needs be)?



Re: Minimally painful mail client for rich (spit!) messages

2011-02-09 Thread Dennis Davis
On Wed, 9 Feb 2011, Oliver Peter wrote:

 From: Oliver Peter li...@peter.de.com
 To: misc@openbsd.org
 Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2011 16:53:53
 Subject: Re: Minimally painful mail client for rich (spit!) messages
 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/)
 
 On Wed, Feb 09, 2011 at 05:38:38PM +0100, Peter N. M. Hansteen wrote:

...

  I probably need to start looking around for a mail client that
  will make reading Outlook and peers' output less painful.
 
  Does such a beast exist, preferably among OpenBSD packages (as
  in, it has to run on OpenBSD, but I can build locally if needs
  be)?
 
  I've tried and hated both Evolution and Thunderbird, but surely
  there must be other choices?

 Peter, does mutt (ports/mail/mutt/snapshot I recommend) count as
 'old-style' mail reader, too?  If so, it feels very modern to
 me and also is my choice for 'heavy' mail reading.  If you are
 looking for some graphical client you may want to give clawsmail a
 try (mail/claws-mail).

Similarly for an 'old-style' mail reader I use alpine
(ports/mail/alpine) or build re-alpine:

http://sourceforge.net/projects/re-alpine/

from scratch.

I also quite like claws-mail as a graphical mail reader.  Also
sylpheed (ports/mail/sylpheed) from which claws-mail is a
development.

If you want to go wierder, the linux graphical mail reader mulberry:

http://www.mulberrymail.com/

works well under linux emulation.  Although you'll need to augment
the linux emulation with the linux rpm openssl-0.9.8b-8.i386.rpm to
get the secure connection stuff.
-- 
Dennis Davis, BUCS, University of Bath, Bath, BA2 7AY, UK
d.h.da...@bath.ac.uk   Phone: +44 1225 386101



Re: Minimally painful mail client for rich (spit!) messages

2011-02-09 Thread Igor Zinovik
On Feb 09, Marco Peereboom wrote: 
 Stuff crap like this in .mailcap
 text/html; /usr/local/bin/links -dump '%s'; copiousoutput; description=HTML 
 Text; na metemplate=%s.html
 text/html; /usr/local/bin/links '%s'; needsterminal; description=HTML Text; 
 nametemp late=%s.html
 
 I had them for all kinds of things but can't find that file anymore.

Here is mine for example.  Hope it will be useful for somebody on misc@

# $Id: mailcap,v 1.15 2011/02/08 18:42:07 zinovik Exp $
application/msword  ; catdoc -s koi8-r.txt %s   ; copiousoutput
application/vnd.msword  ; catdoc -s koi8-r.txt %s   ; copiousoutput
application/excel   ; xls2csv %s | sed 's/,//g'; 
copiousoutput
application/msexcel ; xls2csv %s | sed 's/,//g'; 
copiousoutput
application/ms-Excel; xls2csv %s | sed 's/,//g'; 
copiousoutput
application/vnd.ms-excel; xls2csv %s | sed 's/,//g'; 
copiousoutput
application/x-excel ; xls2csv %s | sed 's/,//g'; 
copiousoutput

application/octet-stream; cat %s; copiousoutput
application/x-bzip2 ; bzip2 -dc %s  ; copiousoutput
application/x-cpio  ; cpio -tvF --quiet %s  ; copiousoutput
application/x-csh   ; cat %s; copiousoutput
application/x-diff-gzip ; zcat %s   ; copiousoutput
application/x-gtar  ; tar tvf %s; copiousoutput
application/x-gzip  ; tar tfz %s; copiousoutput
application/gzip; tar tfz %s; copiousoutput
application/x-gunzip; gzcat ; copiousoutput
application/x-latex ; cat %s; copiousoutput
application/x-perl  ; cat %s; copiousoutput
application/x-script; cat %s; copiousoutput
application/x-shar  ; cat %s; copiousoutput
application/x-shellscript   ; cat %s; copiousoutput
application/x-sh; cat %s; copiousoutput
application/x-tar   ; tar tzf %s; copiousoutput
application/x-tar-gz; gunzip -c %s | tar -tf -  ; copiousoutput
application/x-tcl   ; cat %s; copiousoutput
application/x-tex   ; cat %s; copiousoutput
application/x-troff ; groff -Tlatin1 %s ; copiousoutput
application/x-troff-man ; man -l %s 2/dev/null ; copiousoutput
application/x-troff-me  ; groff -me -Tlatin1 %s ; copiousoutput
application/x-zip-compressed; unzip -v %s   ; copiousoutput
application/zip ; unzip -v %s   ; copiousoutput

text/comma-separated-values ; cat %s; copiousoutput
text/x-compress-html; zcat %s | lynx -dump  ; copiousoutput
text/x-gzip-html; zcat %s | lynx -dump  ; copiousoutput
text/html   ; lynx -force_html -assume_charset=koi8-r 
-assume_unrec_charset=utf8 -dump %s \
; 
copiousoutput; nametemplate=%s.html
image/* ; anytopnm %s | pnmscale -xsize 80 -ysize 
50|ppmtopgm|pgmtopbm|pbmtoascii \
; copiousoutput

 Things like antiword and stuff help.  At one point I had about a
 $random_file to ascii converter for about everything.
 
 On Wed, Feb 09, 2011 at 05:38:38PM +0100, Peter N. M. Hansteen wrote:
  During recent months I've joined some mailing lists with fairly good
  signal to noise ratio on a specific topic, the only snag being that a
  distressingly large number of otherwise sane messages have been
  written using mail clients (fsvo) that by default bury the content in
  rich formatting that makes it hard for old-style mail readers to
  cope.
  
  Telling people off for their choice of mail clients is not an option
  (some at least have had that choice made for them), so as a workaround
  I probably need to start looking around for a mail client that will
  make reading Outlook and peers' output less painful.
  
  Does such a beast exist, preferably among OpenBSD packages (as in, it
  has to run on OpenBSD, but I can build locally if needs be)? 
  
  I've tried and hated both Evolution and Thunderbird, but surely there
  must be other choices?
  
  - Peter
  -- 
  Peter N. M. Hansteen, member of the first RFC 1149 implementation team
  http://bsdly.blogspot.com/ http://www.bsdly.net/ http://www.nuug.no/
  Remember to set the evil bit on all malicious network traffic
  delilah spamd[29949]: 85.152.224.147: disconnected after 42673 seconds.



Re: Minimally painful mail client for rich (spit!) messages

2011-02-09 Thread Andres Perera
On Wed, Feb 9, 2011 at 12:26 PM, Ingo Schwarze schwa...@usta.de wrote:
 application/x-shellscript; /bin/cat ; copiousoutput

hmm, this would be nice for syntax hl independent of mua

assuming mua can parse ascii color escapes like less -R